The Lord of the Rings from Gandalf's perspective

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In Deep Geek

In Deep Geek

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@brandonbutler334
@brandonbutler334 2 ай бұрын
Not all youtube essayists are good at writing. Not all have soothing voices and accents. Not all of them are informative or even well informed. Lamentably, not all of them discuss the Lord of the Rings in exquisite, nerdy detail where I learn something new every video. This channel is a blessing and manages all of these things.
@darrylmasters5032
@darrylmasters5032 2 ай бұрын
he needs to do an audiobook of LOTR etc
@G31M1
@G31M1 2 ай бұрын
well said!
@thing_under_the_stairs
@thing_under_the_stairs 2 ай бұрын
@@darrylmasters5032 I don't usually listen to audiobooks, but I'd listen to that one!
@unitedstatesofmordor
@unitedstatesofmordor 2 ай бұрын
Hear here!
@nikmer1900
@nikmer1900 2 ай бұрын
@@unitedstatesofmordorHear hear****
@highlandoutsider
@highlandoutsider 2 ай бұрын
"Fool being his favorite affectionate insult" Pippin sobbing in the corner 😅
@NukeMarine
@NukeMarine 2 ай бұрын
Love how Pippin by accident twice helped rid Middle Earth of darkness both in getting Gandalf to dispatch the Balrog and with distracting Sauron at the right moment.
@ChristianAkacro
@ChristianAkacro 2 ай бұрын
My favourite little linguistic joke in LOTR is that Pippin's surname 'Took' is quite literally synonymous with the word fool. So when Gandalf exclaims, 'You fool of a Took!!' He's really saying, 'You fool of a Fool!!'
@Chalepastel
@Chalepastel 2 ай бұрын
@@ChristianAkacro So it was somewhere along the lines of "YOUR WHOLE FAMILY IS A BUNCH OF IDIOTS, BUT YOU, MAN, YOU FUCKING EXCEL AT IT!!!"
@cannibalculture3016
@cannibalculture3016 2 ай бұрын
I like to think that there may be a deeper meaning here. A fool is not an idiot - intelligent people can be foolish - on their journey towards gaining wisdom through experience.
@lawlietriver8869
@lawlietriver8869 2 ай бұрын
@@Chalepastel Hahaha, yes, I would believe that is just about the spirit of that message.
@pathutchison7688
@pathutchison7688 2 ай бұрын
“Until at last, I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin upon the mountainside.” ~ Gandalf One of the sickest lines ever put to paper.
@SmoteMyRuin
@SmoteMyRuin 2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@Richard_Nickerson
@Richard_Nickerson 2 ай бұрын
​@@jeromesullivan4015 Wtf did you just compare Trump to Tolkien? Why tf are you bringing politics into this?
@pathutchison7688
@pathutchison7688 2 ай бұрын
@@Richard_Nickerson well said. No call for it. I feel bad for trolls. Their lives must be really empty.
@m.j.5681
@m.j.5681 2 ай бұрын
That line appears only in the films, not in Tolkien's writing. Though an epic line indeed! In the book he says "I threw down my enemy, and he fell from the high place and broke the mountain-side where he smote it in his ruin."
@pathutchison7688
@pathutchison7688 2 ай бұрын
@@m.j.5681 thanks for the info. That’s a good line too, but that’s one thing that the films did better.
@DannyHeat
@DannyHeat 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been on this Tolkien binge for like 23 years now it’s crazy
@enlacostaizquierda
@enlacostaizquierda 2 ай бұрын
Over 50 years for me since I was introduced to the Hobbit in the early 70's. But what really breaks my brain is it has been nearly 25 years since the first of the Peter Jackson films was released.
@Senril_Trevelyan
@Senril_Trevelyan 2 ай бұрын
@@enlacostaizquierda please stop making me feel old. thank you :(
@unitedstatesofmordor
@unitedstatesofmordor 2 ай бұрын
Approaching 50 for me. In a few more seasons.
@thing_under_the_stairs
@thing_under_the_stairs 2 ай бұрын
My Tolkien binge is approaching 35 yrs, and showing no signs of stopping. Part of my brain still thinks of the Peter Jackson versions of Merry and Pippin as Pete and Steve, the old roommates I saw those movies in theatre with. Yeah, it's been a while!
@SirReginaldBumquistIII
@SirReginaldBumquistIII 2 ай бұрын
Omg is it CrAzY ong frreal
@sybaritic2001
@sybaritic2001 2 ай бұрын
As Aragorn noted, when he was crowned king, "Gandalf has been the mover of all that has been accomplished. And this is his victory.."
@ianweir3608
@ianweir3608 18 күн бұрын
Gandalf is the anti-sauron - sauron is proud and domineering, Gandalf is humble and guides gently - sauron remains stationary stop his tower, Gandalf moves around constantly at ground level - sauron is black and red and molten, Gandalf is grey and white and cold - sauron is selfish and cruel, Gandalf is selfless and kind In pretty much every way you can think of, Gandalf is the polar opposite of sauron; his direct antithesis. And, of course, they are both maiar. Sauron is the lieutenant of Morgoth, and Morgoth is the brother of Manwe. It's my personal theory that Gandalf is to Manwe what sauron is to morgoth. But opposite. Of course, sauron failed and Gandalf didnt; there is another inversion. This is really _A Song of Sauron and Gandalf_ , the battle of the maiar
@Snowshill
@Snowshill 2 ай бұрын
I like that gandalf didnt just take over everything or use his vast power, that wasn't his job, and the age to come wasn't meant to be his age it was to be the age of men, so he worked to show men who had lost faith that they were strong and capable of defying the dark power and can work to make the world a brighter place
@Wolfeson28
@Wolfeson28 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. Gandalf's job was to help the Free Peoples of Middle Earth help themselves, not fight the war for them. That's the main reason why Gandalf was the best-suited to the Istari's mission - he was the only one who we know had enough of a fascination and respect for the peoples of Middle Earth to interact with them on a regular basis. He doesn't just travel around and visit places like the Shire because it's his job; he genuinely cares about the people he visits, and forms long-lasting friendships with many of them (we know he was friends with the Old Took even before the time of The Hobbit). That's why he could be the friend, counselor, ally, and beacon of hope to so many of the key figures in LotR.
@kylehackett162
@kylehackett162 2 ай бұрын
He didn't have vast power really. He was sent to help as an old man and was limited by his physical body greatly. His power wasn't great enough to take over, and thus had to rally the people of middle earth to do the fighting.
@spliffertonsheldrake6007
@spliffertonsheldrake6007 2 ай бұрын
The perfect emissary sent by Illuvatar. You are spot on with that comment. Gandalf is the embodiment of Tolkien's vision of what a good person should do in our world. You can't save the world yourself no matter how good your heart is or your ideas are... No more than Tolkien himself could save his people of the time. The best he could do and the best we can do is to influence others around us to be their best selves and perpetuate our most wholesome human qualities. I believe that's why Tolkien himself came to our world in the first place... In a very ironic sense he is Gandalf embodied in our real world for the same purpose. Perhaps he was sent here in the same way as an emissary in our darkest times. "Tolkien the Gray.... That's what they called me. That was my name" ;-)
@hhjhj393
@hhjhj393 2 ай бұрын
He always makes sure to leave and let the people do the adventure lol. He only shows up if he is absolutely needed. He really is the fatherly chaperone guiding the younglings but making sure they have time to grow and mess up and learn on their own.
@evensgrey
@evensgrey Ай бұрын
The Valar had also learned their lesson about directly intervening. They eventually intervened in the war with Morgoth, and won handily. And sank a CONTINENT in the process. They knew better than to risk the collateral damage that a war between gods and angels would inflict on the now much smaller world.
@fr.andygutierrez5356
@fr.andygutierrez5356 2 ай бұрын
I actually got emotional at the very end thinking of the reward Gandalf received for his fidelity to his long, weary labors. Thank you 🙏🏼
@sterlingnerdling
@sterlingnerdling 2 ай бұрын
Honestly, Gandalf (and the other protagonists of LotR) make me want to be a better person. If there is a God and a Heaven, I want to do good here so that I may be received well there. "Finish the fight. Stay the course. Like Gandalf did."
@Adam-ne7qc
@Adam-ne7qc 2 ай бұрын
One fact to add to "Gandalf perspective", which is easily missed: between visiting Crickhollow and Bree, Gandalf was sure that Nazgul had taken Frodo and Ring, and now all what remains is to pursue them and hope to rescue them. This was probably the darkes hours in his life.
@davidlewis8814
@davidlewis8814 2 ай бұрын
“He is a moss-gatherer, and I have been a stone doomed to rolling”. This is such excellent, surpassing stuff as to make me long for dotage.
@shawnmckenzie8699
@shawnmckenzie8699 Ай бұрын
'But my rolling days are ending, and now we shall have much to say to one another.’ I plan to use the full quote to describe myself on the day of my retirement, and I look forward to that day.
@odiumimbues
@odiumimbues Ай бұрын
i believe this line inspired led zeppelin in stairway to heaven.
@danoconnell1833
@danoconnell1833 2 ай бұрын
The nuance Tolkien invests his characters with is astounding, especially with Gandalf. And Robert has a way of feeling it out and saying what is most important to understand to grasp that nuance. I'm in awe of them both,
@Scientist_Salarian
@Scientist_Salarian 2 ай бұрын
This might be my favorite IDG video to date. And it’s the first time I’ve ever heard someone use the word ‘eucatastrophe’ out loud.
@Srynan
@Srynan 2 ай бұрын
This video made me cry tears of joy over a story I have known for almost 2 decades now and yet, somehow, hearing it read out loud and focusing the details of how Gandalf tried to guide and lead by example even in the most dire of circumstances just makes me happy.
@ChristianAkacro
@ChristianAkacro 2 ай бұрын
'Fool being his favorite affectionate insult.' My favourite little linguistic joke in LOTR is that Pippin's surname 'Took' is quite literally synonymous with the word fool. So when Gandalf exclaims, 'You fool of a Took!!' He's really saying, 'You fool of a Fool!!'
@didgruntleddansnyderfan
@didgruntleddansnyderfan Ай бұрын
It's a Swedish word I believe. At least they are still using it actively there.
@ChristianAkacro
@ChristianAkacro Ай бұрын
@@didgruntleddansnyderfan I just asked my wife, who's Swedish, and she confirms this is true. Though it's 'Tok' in Swedish.
@didgruntleddansnyderfan
@didgruntleddansnyderfan Ай бұрын
@@ChristianAkacro Yes, mostly used as an adjective. "Tokig", meaning someone is crazy these days more than foolish. But both sort of apply. It is not used on Norwgian and Danish though, which are usually pretty similar in many ways. At least it's easy for Danes and Norwegians to understand Swedish and vice versa.
@ChristianAkacro
@ChristianAkacro Ай бұрын
@@didgruntleddansnyderfan Cool beans
@Cosper79
@Cosper79 2 ай бұрын
The best Tolkien KZbinr.
@DomLab-g2n
@DomLab-g2n 2 ай бұрын
He is now. Men of The West sold out while IDG redeemed himself not even covering RoP anymore
@Karl.Jayce-DE
@Karl.Jayce-DE Ай бұрын
Yes !!!!
@Jensaarai1
@Jensaarai1 2 ай бұрын
I'm still waiting for LOTRs From Denethor's Perspective, especially the exploration of how Denethor merely viewed Sauron as a political adversary.
@SirReginaldBumquistIII
@SirReginaldBumquistIII 2 ай бұрын
Weirdo
@hegemonycricket2182
@hegemonycricket2182 2 ай бұрын
That would be a good one. Would be a great opportunity to explain the differences of Denethor in the books versus in the movies.
@Wolfeson28
@Wolfeson28 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely. And a deeper explanation for his attitudes toward Gandalf, Aragorn, Boromir, and Faramir. How did Denethor truly view his role as Steward?
@stuartburns8657
@stuartburns8657 2 ай бұрын
As a political rival only?
@RtB68
@RtB68 2 ай бұрын
@@Wolfeson28 Book Denethor was a much more sharply drawn, richer character with plenty of nuance. He resented his role as Steward, believing himself to be King-worthy - this was seed planted in him by Sauron via the Palantir and it festered. It's also quite likely that his antipathy to Faramir was similarly a subversion by Sauron, likely because Sauron recognized Faramir as the greater of the two brothers and the one most likely to thwart him.
@michaelf8221
@michaelf8221 2 ай бұрын
I wasn't aware that gandalf took on all the nazgul simultaneously near weathertop - epic offscreen moment.
@R3BootYourMind
@R3BootYourMind 2 ай бұрын
A real hero doesn't show off his achievements.
@RHCole
@RHCole 2 ай бұрын
Puts the Balrogs power levels into serious perspective
@Fitchy-ke3wz
@Fitchy-ke3wz 2 ай бұрын
"You have 5 Wraiths behind you, where the other 4 are I cannot say." Arwen, The Fellowship of the Ring. (They were fighting with Gandalf. Good job Peter Jackson.)
@crowbar_the_rogue
@crowbar_the_rogue 2 ай бұрын
The Nazgul were never much good at fighting. Aragorn drove away five of them using nothing but a torch.
@DomLab-g2n
@DomLab-g2n 2 ай бұрын
​@@RHColeThe Balrog is a Maia. The Nazgul are just shadows of their former selves, except The Witch King's power however is bizarrely potent.
@Alexquints
@Alexquints 2 ай бұрын
The main complaint I have with the movies is in the extended edition when Gandalf faces the witch king at the battle of minas tirith that he loses to the witch king after the restrictions are removed from him when in the books he held off all 9 while his abilities where limited.
@ghostdreamer7272
@ghostdreamer7272 2 ай бұрын
I feel like Gandalf zooming around on Shadowfax, getting to places before the hobbits and others do, is almost like Gandalf is the video game main character who uses fast travel too much 😋
@tubaterror
@tubaterror 2 ай бұрын
Gandalf: Oh no! Nazgul! But, hang on, there's no-one else around so I guess I can... FIREBALL! MAGIC MISSILE! HASTE! LIGHTNING BOLT!
@Jordan_C_Wilde
@Jordan_C_Wilde 2 ай бұрын
POWER WORD: SCRUNCH
@RARufus
@RARufus 2 ай бұрын
And when all else fails: Knights of the Round
@PortCityBalrog
@PortCityBalrog 2 ай бұрын
Just use a Phoenix down on the damn thing and be done with it
@BruceNJeffAreMyFlies
@BruceNJeffAreMyFlies 2 ай бұрын
@@PortCityBalrog Sorry Squall, I think you're in the wrong universe again.
@badskeelz4915
@badskeelz4915 2 ай бұрын
​@@Jordan_C_Wilde Khamul the Easterling: "Shit man, this wizard war is fucked."
@PiraticalBob
@PiraticalBob 2 ай бұрын
Gandalf, upon arrival in the Blessed Realm after the defeat of Sauron: "I forgot to bring pipe-weed! We have to go back!"
@andrewjuby6339
@andrewjuby6339 2 ай бұрын
Some time later Sam shows up and is all, "of course I brought pipe-weed and seeds to sow who do you think I am Gandalf?"
@AristophMarloque
@AristophMarloque 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewjuby6339 You gotta be joking if you think for one second Bilbo didn't tug on his robe immediately and hand him a freshly packed pipe. LMAO
@andrewjuby6339
@andrewjuby6339 2 ай бұрын
@@AristophMarloque True. I just loved the mental image of Sam rolling into Valinor with dozens of seeds each from every known varietal of pipe-weed (along with a few of his own devising).
@HeilwoodBeagles
@HeilwoodBeagles 2 ай бұрын
I get it! Nothing worse than going on a road trip without weed.
@AristophMarloque
@AristophMarloque 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewjuby6339 Oh, no, it's even better! When Sam shows up 60 years later he blows everybody's minds with how potent all the new strains have become!
@Richard_Nickerson
@Richard_Nickerson 2 ай бұрын
Gandalf literally used "fly" to mean "flee" earlier in the same chapter. Glorfindel also used the word "fly" to mean "run away as quickly as possible" earlier in the same book. I have always loathed the "Gandalf was telling them to use the Eagles" BS.
@glamourweaver
@glamourweaver Ай бұрын
I stand by my argument that the eagles are proud powerful sapient beings. If they’d knowingly born the ring-bearer, Frodo would have ended up cast to his death and the ring on the talon of the new dark lord of the four winds inside of half an hour.
@MScotty90
@MScotty90 Ай бұрын
@@glamourweaverI always got a chuckle out of imagining them dropping Frodo into mount doom from 35,000 feet like a JDAM
@Captain_Insano_nomercy
@Captain_Insano_nomercy 28 күн бұрын
Precisely 👆 The idea that Gandalf meant to literally "fly" is a result of english comprehension going down. We are a society that interprets everything as literal now, rather than a balance of figurative and literal depending on context
@glamourweaver
@glamourweaver 28 күн бұрын
@ i disagree with the theory too, but it isn’t a question of English comprehension going down. It’s the idea of a word having a double meaning and it could be mistaken for meaning something else (Gandalf telling them to meet the eagles but being mistaken for just meaning fleeing) It’s WRONG. That is not what happened. But the people who came up with the clever theory were not failing to understand that fly can mean flee.
@Richard_Nickerson
@Richard_Nickerson 27 күн бұрын
@@glamourweaver Who are you even talking to? It's _not_ a clever theory though. It's literally just misunderstanding the text. When it comes to the books, "fly" is used synonymously with "flee" & "run away as quickly as possible" multiple times. As I stated, it's literally used that way at least twice before Gandalf's fall. When it comes to the movies, it's still a lack of media literacy because people should be aware of the poetic or olde tyme language being used in the movie's world by that point. Having never discussed the Eagles at all, and given the use of language for the previous 2 hours at that point, then taking the line "fly, you fools" to mean "use the Eagles to fly" is _still_ just a lacking literacy of media & _not_ a clever theory.
@happy_t-rex
@happy_t-rex 2 ай бұрын
small detail: Aragorn looking in the palantír in Minas Tirith is movieverse; in the books he looks in Helm's Deep, several days earlier.
@iainballas
@iainballas 2 ай бұрын
I'm loving these updated episodes!
@ChatBot1337
@ChatBot1337 2 ай бұрын
As for strategy, Gandalf in the Hobbit is fantastic. Not only did he help the dwarves in hopes to rebuild dwarven strength, but also to possibly rid the world of a potential ally of Sauron in Smaug. The Professor was utterly genius in writing Gandalf.
@didgruntleddansnyderfan
@didgruntleddansnyderfan Ай бұрын
From a story telling perspective his excuse for leaving was a lot weaker in the Hobbit though. At least it made sense in LotR, but in the Hobbit he just ups and leaves. And you need him to leave because he'd solve all the problems and it'd be a boring story. You just need a good explanation for it actually in the story, not in compendiums and notes released fifty years later.
@kevinp3550
@kevinp3550 2 ай бұрын
What a beautiful, concise, and in-depth analysis! I've been reading The Lore for fifty years now, but you never fail to shed a new light or uncover a different perspective on Middle-earth mythology. Your videos are undoubtedly a labor of love. I wish to convey my deepest appreciation (along with so many others) for your work. Your site has to be at or near the summit of hope for some (at least) of the developers of KZbin. OKAY, so get back to it and may you never run out of material!
@dundundata7603
@dundundata7603 2 ай бұрын
Amazing how much artwork has been made, and good God the writing is poetry.
@Richard_Nickerson
@Richard_Nickerson 2 ай бұрын
Is it? 70 years since publication, 23 years since the movie, and now AI art is a thing... seems perfectly reasonable & I expect there to be even more.
@istari0
@istari0 2 ай бұрын
There were so many who played major roles in the defeat of Sauron but I view Gandalf as being the true architect of the victory of the Free Peoples. He had the deepest commitment to his task and the best understanding of those he had been sent to aid.
@Richard_Nickerson
@Richard_Nickerson 2 ай бұрын
It's always simultaneously amusing & annoying to see comments like this: you're acting as if you came to some conclusion on your own, when in reality you're just voicing what the story outright says as if you had to use brain power to come to that conclusion. I see this way too often in Tolkien spaces specifically. Your comment, for example, is spoken outright by Aragorn & other characters in the book itself. Great analysis 🙄
@Srynan
@Srynan 2 ай бұрын
​@@Richard_Nickerson Kind of unnecessary to harp on something like this. People sharing their thoughts, however trivial you might deem them, should never be discouraged. Especially not if they do indeed say something correct. Literally no harm done. If you want in depth analysis, you got a lot of it in this channel and there is no need to scour the comments and belittle others just cause they state something obvious to you. Or can you explain to me how them doing that is harmful towards you or others?
@jamesflood7985
@jamesflood7985 2 ай бұрын
@@Richard_Nickerson Your comment is so rude and uncalled for! You should not make others ashamed of sharing their thoughts and observations and it makes you look very very foolish by doing so. @istari0 Thank you for your observation and for being a catalyst of conversation and thought.
@Richard_Nickerson
@Richard_Nickerson 2 ай бұрын
@@Srynan That's literally my point though: it's NOT their thoughts and they're pretending they are. Literally the entire point of my comment.
@Richard_Nickerson
@Richard_Nickerson 2 ай бұрын
@@jamesflood7985 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 So rude! So uncalled for! So beyond acceptable! So atrocious! Neither you nor Srynan actually read my comment, given you both responded with "they're just sharing their thoughts!" 🙄🙄🙄🙄 My entire point is that it's not an original thought. It's not an original analysis. It's not even an analysis when the text states it outright. Why tf should I pretend someone repeating what the text says itself is contributing literally anything at all?
@MichaelPiz
@MichaelPiz 2 ай бұрын
Just as _The Lord of the Rings_ does every time I re-read it, to my astonishment this video brought tears to my eyes. Well done.
@tomdumb6937
@tomdumb6937 2 ай бұрын
Very good. Two points; You forgot the river at rivendell. Gandalf enhanced the flood. Also, eru did not send him back, that was mandos. Well done.
@Maholix
@Maholix Ай бұрын
Since you brought up semantics, I do think the way it's worded in the video is correctly stated, if not wholly complete. For brevity's sake it makes sense as it goes to the heart of the situation. Mandos is something of a gate keeper. That's it. Although it was Mandos who would have sent Gandalf back physically, it wasn't Mandos who basically promoted Gandalf and told him his task was not yet done. Gandalf and Mandos both are serving Elu's will at this point, perhaps a bit more directly than usual. I've always considered his shift in tact as getting new orders in light of the betrayal of Saruman. Gandalf died, drifting for awhile until he could touch base with his superiors. Once they get his report, they approved his plan, putting him in charge and sent him back. Mandos opens the way for Gandalf to return, but not before given the word from others.
@MargoB
@MargoB 2 ай бұрын
Oh, Robert; this was SO much fun!! I've enjoyed most of your other "The LOTR from N.'s perspective" videos. This one, from Gandalf's, was really satisfying. Thanks for doing the work of tracing his POV, and making it into such an enjoyable story for us. I love how you assume that we know certain things, and especially your insider jokes for those who know Tolkien's main works. A true gem in your sparkling collection. Thanks again!
@nastropc
@nastropc 2 ай бұрын
5:45 “Where to mate?… Rivendell? North of the Greyflood at this time of night?! You’re having a laugh! Tell you what, I’ll take you to Edoras, you can get the night bus from there”
@bosertheropode5443
@bosertheropode5443 Ай бұрын
Oh boy your profile pic... wait til you find out which side Tolkien supported during the spanish civil war.
@kuumdizzle
@kuumdizzle 22 күн бұрын
Lmao! The night bus 😂
@ericstoverink6579
@ericstoverink6579 Ай бұрын
Part of me has the feeling that the talk that Gandalf had with Tom was Gandalf trying to convince Tom and Goldberry that it was time for all of them to leave. That the world is forever changed, and that it was time for mortals, for good or for ill, to take their place as the guardians and masters of the world.
@mon_moi
@mon_moi 2 ай бұрын
I like how Gandalf's plans almost get ruined so many times before he reuintes with Frodo in Rivendell. Getting imprisoned by Saruman, transported miles away to Edoras, losing the hobbits at Bree, then getting jumped on by Nazgul. When he says "i was delayed" in the Fellowship of the Ring film, he wasn't kidding lol. I also like to think that even though he trusts everything will work out one way or another, the arrival of the Eagles was a moment of genuine relief and surprise, as if to remind him his own words: "there are other forces at play in this world, besides the will of evil", and that Manwë isn't being a completely lazy bum in regards to Sauron wrecking havoc on Middle Earth
@ericstoverink6579
@ericstoverink6579 Ай бұрын
One of my favorite Gandalf moments was near the end after Aragorn had been crowned King. He takes Aragorn to a nearby mountain where he leads him to a sapling of the White Tree. Throughout the story you get the sense that Gandalf and Aragorn are, essentially equals. But this scene really hammers home the truth that Gandalf really was a mentor to Aragorn, and that this was the last moment between a teacher and pupil.
@Erikjust
@Erikjust 2 ай бұрын
"And if we where ever in any doubt about the strength of Gandalf what happened next should put us right." I see somebody has been watching a certain edition of return of the king where a certain Nazghul broke Gandalf staff. At least according to Peter Jackson. Well at least we now know In Deep Geeks opinion about THAT scene.
@ZENmud
@ZENmud 2 ай бұрын
Literally reading this comment of yours, when our Narrator voiced these words ( 7:20 ), so I'll un-pause the video now to hear "la suite" 🎉
@klecko3627
@klecko3627 2 ай бұрын
We dont really, because the witch King is more powerful at minas tirith than wethertop. „Added demonic powers“ as Tolkien described it. I think it was already mentioned some other time on this channel but im not sure.
@MrNicoJac
@MrNicoJac Ай бұрын
Yeah, that part made no sense to me, ever. Especially not since Gandalf still has his staff later on 🤣
2 ай бұрын
I think there's another part to the compassion with Pippin and the Orthanc stone. I think the comment, _"It will be better for him than lying in the dark while others sleep,"_ also shows Gandalf's thinking about Pippin's state of mind and how it'll be too full of worry to sleep. Particularly if he's just sitting around with nothing to do but think. Going with Gandalf obviously making him feel safer but also keeping him occupied and his mind off of his fear.
@adamwarlock8263
@adamwarlock8263 2 ай бұрын
i love how gandalf low-key struggles with his own courage. it really humanizes him. he keeps his doubts to himself for the most part, and always rises to the occasion. a practical optimist of the highest order. this is gonna be pretty controversial, but gandalf is cool af
@GunDrummer
@GunDrummer 2 ай бұрын
He was all like “BIILLLLBO BAGGGINNNSSS”
@jcook693
@jcook693 2 ай бұрын
Greatest little Hobbit of all
@johnt.inscrutable1545
@johnt.inscrutable1545 Ай бұрын
This is one of your most moving work, Robert. Not that my opinion counts for much, but I dare say others will feel the same way. Thank you!
@pedrojorge1912
@pedrojorge1912 2 ай бұрын
This was the "LOTR from ... perspective" I was most expecting to watch! And man, it was worth the wait! Amazing content.
@WildClaps
@WildClaps 2 ай бұрын
I’m a simple man. I see Tolkien, I click play.
@paulsarnik8506
@paulsarnik8506 2 ай бұрын
They CALL ye a GREY/WHITE Neck, reckon that You AM?🤷🏼‍♂️ 🤓😎🖖🏻
@Joe-rk9uy
@Joe-rk9uy 2 ай бұрын
​@@paulsarnik8506wit
@StillAwakeAwareDiscerning
@StillAwakeAwareDiscerning 2 ай бұрын
Haha!
@Big_Tex
@Big_Tex 2 ай бұрын
You’re the Samwise of KZbin viewers
@evanhayes5891
@evanhayes5891 2 ай бұрын
I'd praise the comment for being original, buuuuut.........
@skyborne80
@skyborne80 Ай бұрын
I love how tactfully Robert informs his viewers that, no, Gandalf was not instructing the Fellowship to use the Eagles.
@Wesley_Youre_a_Rabbit
@Wesley_Youre_a_Rabbit 2 ай бұрын
Heh. “Denethor was busy building himself a funeral pyre”. I snortled at that one.
@gordonkennygordon
@gordonkennygordon Ай бұрын
I chuckered at the word "snortled."
@ericbess4477
@ericbess4477 2 ай бұрын
I just can't say enough how much I love listening to Robert's videos.
@alexmc7798
@alexmc7798 2 ай бұрын
The interesting thing to me about Gandalf is that the majority of those he encounters probably just assumed he was a human whose tricks gave him old age, or maybe some Numenorian blood in there. It’s almost inconceivable to the average middle earth citizen that he’s not of their world, and he never takes that for granted.
@LlNGARD
@LlNGARD 2 ай бұрын
Man... i love you, i love how effortlessly you explain the intricacies of the Film/book(s) we all love.
@awesomehpt8938
@awesomehpt8938 2 ай бұрын
Imagine being told to go and help save the world. You have to leave home and stay in middle earth for over 2000 until Sauron is defeated.
@Richard_Nickerson
@Richard_Nickerson 2 ай бұрын
Over 3000* years
@MundaneGray
@MundaneGray 2 ай бұрын
And he didn’t want to go. Olórin (that’s Gandalf’s real name) was afraid of Sauron, and believed himself too weak to oppose him. But Manwë and Varda persuaded him to accept the task anyway. What I find remarkable is that Olórin expected to oppose Sauron as part of a team of five Istari. The last thing he expected was that Alatar and Pallando would disappear into the east, Radagast would abandon his mission, and Saruman would turn evil, leaving Gandalf to complete the mission by himself. It was a worst-case scenario, but he didn’t hesitate. Gandalf assembled a new team and developed new strategies that turned his apparent weakness into strength. He used stealth and misdirection to keep Sauron off balance while he used his secret weapon-the hobbits-to bring down the Dark Lord.
@countryman032
@countryman032 Ай бұрын
​@@MundaneGray I myself am not convinced Olórin was any lesser in might than Mairon (Sauron) was even in the beginning. I think he is far too humble and uninterested in domination to give us an accurate assessment on the topic.
@TheJordanK
@TheJordanK 2 ай бұрын
In a sea of endless voices doing this type of content there’s something about this channel that makes it better than the rest.
@emrek99205
@emrek99205 2 ай бұрын
Gandalf revisiting Tom is Tolkien's way of saying that he wished to write more about Tom. Unfortunately Tom being such a homebody at this point when the world has been revealed in all of its vastness doesn't lend itself to very interesting stories.
@diegomardones6651
@diegomardones6651 2 ай бұрын
I wish Beorn had joined Tom and Gandalf then.
@errantwinds-up8uu
@errantwinds-up8uu 2 ай бұрын
I think a lot of it, too, was Tolkien acknowledging that Gandalf wanted rest, too, but he spent his time in Arda fulfilling his duty. Not that he was miserable, but I do think that he would have liked a simpler life, much like Tolkien himself.
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 2 ай бұрын
@@errantwinds-up8uu It was also a recognition that Gandalf's duty barred him from conquering the Shire on behalf of the four Hobbits - his appointed role was to advise and encourage where neeeded, but to intervene only against foes that were beyond mortals - Durin's Bane, the Nazgul, Saruman at the height of his power, but not after being cast down - and even then, he was enjoined against facing Sauron directly. It was for the Hobbits to sort out their own problems, and they'd been equipped to do so, so Gandalf left them to it - visiting Bombadil was, in part, a convenient reason to accompany them most of the way, but still turn aside without making it too obvious...
@lqr824
@lqr824 Ай бұрын
@@rmsgrey > his appointed role was to advise and encourage where neeeded, but to intervene only against foes that were beyond mortals Is this your deduction from the text as a whole? Is there a specific passage in the books spelling this out?
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey Ай бұрын
@@lqr824 The text, the History of Middle Earth, Tolkien's letters on the subject...
@skyadventurer7574
@skyadventurer7574 2 ай бұрын
I am very glad for your take and interpretation of the work, because I think it’s the only one on all the internet that has me thinking; dang, I relate on a fundamental almost spiritual level to Gandalf. Old soul, love for the beautiful world and good natured people.
@klackodonk
@klackodonk 2 ай бұрын
Loved this video. Gandalf truly was something special
@cpointon95
@cpointon95 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic. Thankyou for making it. Takes me far away from the current craziness of the world.
@jeremiahcampbell2
@jeremiahcampbell2 2 ай бұрын
I love your videos. You bring life to this story in a truly engaging and dynamic way.
@bplup6419
@bplup6419 2 ай бұрын
Good Writer: "A touch of providence." Me: "God yeeted that gremlin into a volcano."
@TheLaprasMan
@TheLaprasMan 2 ай бұрын
Next up: Lord of the Rings from Farmer Maggot's perspective
@CoolBree2e
@CoolBree2e 2 ай бұрын
This is tha way
@Beemo_666
@Beemo_666 2 ай бұрын
Probaly just smoking pipe weed with his bestie tom
@nickfoskin4600
@nickfoskin4600 2 ай бұрын
Or from Treebeards POV...... It would be a very very very very very very very very long video
@Zveebo
@Zveebo 2 ай бұрын
Robert has always been a big Farmer Maggot fan, so I can totally see him doing this one at some point 😅
@DomLab-g2n
@DomLab-g2n 2 ай бұрын
Better than Bill The Poney's perspective.
@EugenioFilippi
@EugenioFilippi 2 ай бұрын
One of the best channels on KZbin. Full stop
@nmd1682
@nmd1682 2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. One of the most interesting episodes on this channel.
@NewsRedial
@NewsRedial 2 ай бұрын
That depiction of Gandalf on the hill outside the gates of Mordor as they do battle with Sauron's Orcs is pretty much a representation of how Moses would stand in a similar spot during the Exodus and when his staff was raised, the Israelites would prevail in battle and while the staff was lowered (from tiredness) the tide of the battle would turn against the Israelites.
@jdzames
@jdzames 2 ай бұрын
😅 I was shocked hearing "Eowyn marry Aragorn" at 16:24 , not looking at the screen, my world stopped until i looked back on screen and realized it was: . . . . . . . . . . "Eowyn, Merry, Aragorn, ..." ... I see what you did there! Eowyn can stop blushing now 😅
@landofalwayswinter666
@landofalwayswinter666 Ай бұрын
There’s no other channel where I immediately click Like as soon as the video loads. With literally every other channel, I wait to see whether the video earns my Like. Robert is just so ridiculously good and consistent that I’ve never watched a single video that I didn’t enjoy.
@christianellegaard7120
@christianellegaard7120 2 ай бұрын
Gandalf is one of my favourite characters. But I liked him better when all I knew about him was what I read in The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. He seemed a wise and highly educated human. He was part of an order (perhaps one of many) of wizards with Saruman as its head. I always felt that learning that he is an immortal being, diminished him. His order consisted of just five such beings, only three of which are ever mentioned in the main story. Rather than being part of a wider class of magicians.
@damnrememberme
@damnrememberme Ай бұрын
This is so well done and very clear to understand. You also don’t go on tangents about things that have to do with the topic but don’t need to also go into full detail. Wow this was so nice. Thank you!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽❤️
@kenbrady119
@kenbrady119 2 ай бұрын
Excellent story-retelling, and I especially enjoy the inclusion of Tolkien's original text and it's context. That last quote sounded like Gandalf wanted to have a wonderful and utmostly natural fling with Tom, a man who needs no magic to appreciate the moment. Oh la la! I can't imagine a better ending for an old and wonderful wizard.
@oooSKYLIGHTooo
@oooSKYLIGHTooo 2 ай бұрын
'Take it off, take it off, fool of a Baggins!' XD
@G31M1
@G31M1 2 ай бұрын
I love watching your videos before sleeping! This channel and Retney's Holocron for Star Wars content are such a gift!
@alexanderkingma6316
@alexanderkingma6316 2 ай бұрын
Wow what a video. You are so great at storytelling.
@theunbeliever603
@theunbeliever603 2 ай бұрын
I would love to be a fly on the wall in Bombadil’s cottage when Gandalf came calling. To hear their conversation.
@SelphieTheNutter
@SelphieTheNutter 22 күн бұрын
Gandalf was my mentor growing up, and to this day, he is my all time favourite character from all of my favourite fantasy series. And Sir Ian Mcculen was the perfect choice to play him in the films.
@unclerojelio6320
@unclerojelio6320 2 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on Merry's sword? It seems like a key item in the story that only gets a one-sentence treatment in the book.
@boatrat
@boatrat 2 ай бұрын
Pretty sure he already did? And recently? Or maybe he re-uploaded one that was originally posted a couple years ago. I'd have to go look, but I thought he covered the Barrow "swords" (daggers).
@fr.andygutierrez5356
@fr.andygutierrez5356 2 ай бұрын
@@boatratdaggers of Westernesse would probably bring up some good results in a search. That would focus on the information we have from the book, as opposed to the portrayal of the daggers in the movies
@BluffyMoo
@BluffyMoo 2 ай бұрын
So Gandalf already had possession of Shadowfax way before Fangorn Forest. I suppose that's a major change from the PJ trilogy where he was introduced to Shadowfax after falling in Moria.
@chispito6986
@chispito6986 Ай бұрын
Simply? Fantastic!! What a video!! As all!! Many thanks for all these gems!!
@MiniToTheMax
@MiniToTheMax 2 ай бұрын
I’d love to hear a ‘What if Gandalf knew Bilbo had the ring in Rivendell’ video. I wonder how different things would have gone 60 years earlier
@jedthezed3599
@jedthezed3599 2 ай бұрын
Simply...the best LOTR analysis video I have ever seen! 😊
@jaimeduncan6167
@jaimeduncan6167 18 күн бұрын
Amazing essay. I wonder how much healing, mentally that is, Gandalf did by staying with Tom, just enjoying Arda, surrounded by nature. The amount of trauma Gandalf endured was immense. He loved the free people and saw them died and nature corrupted. Going to stay with Tom and his Wife is another sign of Gandalf wisdom, humility and inside about himself.
@cindykurneck
@cindykurneck 2 ай бұрын
This was fabulous! After many readings of the LOTR starting 52 years go and many many viewings of the movies since, I always still long for more. Long for other points of view and reiterations of what I've already surmised. And this view of LOTR's biggest bad *ss was wonderful! Thank you. ❤❤❤
@BloodravenRivers
@BloodravenRivers 2 ай бұрын
This was a really good one...
@dancombs4201
@dancombs4201 Ай бұрын
This man is a blessing to mankind, love the content
@FilmscoreMetaler
@FilmscoreMetaler 2 ай бұрын
Awesome idea showing the pov of one character! Hope there's more to come from this concept! I love how you put everything into greater context and filled in all the blanks of my knowledge. This is one of the videos where I soaked in each and every second and will never forget what I learnt for years to come!
@Coder6719
@Coder6719 2 ай бұрын
He's done many of these. Be sure and check older videos.
@FilmscoreMetaler
@FilmscoreMetaler 2 ай бұрын
​@@Coder6719I will, thank you!
@gerttherude6366
@gerttherude6366 Ай бұрын
this was an amazing video , being dyslexic reading Tolkien's work is hard , so things like this help fill in the gaps in my knowledge , the best escapism their is.
@juandavidbitar4993
@juandavidbitar4993 2 ай бұрын
The phrase “basically a form of elevated middle earth-smack talk” coming from rob and his stoic cadence made chuckle …don’t know why lol
@oliveira.rafael
@oliveira.rafael Ай бұрын
This channel is pure gold! I friggin love every single video ❤
@LeakyCougar
@LeakyCougar Ай бұрын
I'm so happy I found your channel. Good work sir.
@chana7276
@chana7276 12 күн бұрын
Wanted to let you know i listen to your videos every night. Yoie delivery is veey calming and really helps me sleep
@oliveira.rafael
@oliveira.rafael Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@lifesacardgame6454
@lifesacardgame6454 Ай бұрын
This is one of your best videos. Thank you.
@goldilocksoriginal1984
@goldilocksoriginal1984 Ай бұрын
“Basically a form of elevated Middle Earth smack talk” - I burst into laughter at that 😂
@taylenday
@taylenday 2 ай бұрын
So you're telling me the movies left out one of the most epic battles in the entire franchise? Gandalf vs. The Nine, AT NIGHT?! Why would they leave that out???
@mallninja9805
@mallninja9805 Ай бұрын
In fairness, the books left it out too. Gandalf makes a brief passing reference to it & moves on
@ColinWBeatty
@ColinWBeatty Ай бұрын
This was really fantastic! Thank you!
@bledking
@bledking Ай бұрын
Another fantastic video, Robert.
@tscarb
@tscarb 2 ай бұрын
My goodness! This is one of your very best works!!!!!
@landonling3693
@landonling3693 2 ай бұрын
Much love for this channel!!! Thank u!
@RPWhitworth
@RPWhitworth Ай бұрын
Wookie chair at 11:50
@authorfarrell7161
@authorfarrell7161 2 ай бұрын
Only a genius can write someone so powerful and keep them in the story. The powerful mentor almost always dies for the protagonist to come to the fore, but not here. Not permanently at least.
@SardonicALLY
@SardonicALLY 2 ай бұрын
I would love a video titled. Of Names and Naming in Lord of the Rings. There isn't a bad name in the whole series. JRR was a genius with language.
@JorPanzer
@JorPanzer 2 ай бұрын
Love your videos mate, the pacing is so relaxing
@marcoottina654
@marcoottina654 Ай бұрын
That was heartwarming! He mostly inspired others, did plannings and fought "supernatural" evils; not a Rambo-like tornado. Yet, he was just serene with finally enjoying Life, and being happy for the bathing in Light the others could now freely and lightly enjoy (no pun intended). Just an humble being.
@GregScholfield
@GregScholfield 2 ай бұрын
This was lovely. Simply splendid.
@elialexander-tanner5784
@elialexander-tanner5784 2 ай бұрын
This is maybe my favorite video of yours. Thank you.
@whatthefrerejacques
@whatthefrerejacques Ай бұрын
I teared up thinking about Gandalf enjoying his time with Tom.
@General12th
@General12th 2 ай бұрын
Hi Geek! It's worth pointing out the differences between Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White. Even in their personalities, there are many. It's clear that the man who fell into Moria is not the same man who popped out of Fangorn Forest. His angelic nature was allowed to flourish... but his connection to Middle Earth had waned considerably. I like to think Gandalf slowly regained some of his old personality and memories during the campaign, which is why he's even vaguely personable when he drops the kids off at the Shire, but still. And I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes more angelic as they sail to Valinor, so by the time the reach the shores, even Galadriel and Elrond find him a distant stranger, and he might as well be a complete alien to Frodo and Bilbo.
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