Independent Review - Evolution Fury5-S Table Saw

[@Godshole]

I must have looked at 50 pictures of this saw and dozen videos and you are the FIRST person to show and understand how important it is that the writhing blade? is lower than the top of the cutting blade. At LAST! Thank you!

[@AverageJoesJoinery]

Haha Thanks mate! Its easy to over look those kind of features in reviews. Its really important to me though. I dont want to be messing about with the riving knife each time I want to make a non through cut lol

[@Godshole]

Exactly, spot on !

[@Hylanda11800]

Good on you Joe, You've stayed honest. 5321 today 11 may 2016 and still going up . thank you for the video, take care because we care Duncan & Rebecca

[@calebshort2169]

You should be able to buy a rip fence from any brand as long as it's the same width as your table saw top and just take the clam that fits in your table saws rail off and put it on the new fence. May need to drill some holes but it should work. Or just build one out of wood that goes over the metal bar that is already attached and extend it all the way across the table saw.

[@TheLunarmonkey]

You can cut a zero clearence fence with slot for riving knife, once youve raise the blade through the insert take it off and replace old insert and move fence to put blade level to zero insert and just cut the slot for the knife through to the blade slot. hope that was clear and understandible.

[@EvolutionPowerTools]

Hiya, thanks for your comments on Joe's tool review! Evolution can be found in a number of stores across the globe & online. Within 3 clicks you can shop & buy online or view in a local store. Here's the link: www.evolutionpowertools.com/exploretherange/ : )

[@jurorx]

I'm impressed with the metal cutting abilities. Thank you for sharing and if they ever need someone in South Africa to do a review have them call me lol. Cheers!

[@thebeardedcountryman]

You can actually fix the fence 'lift' quite easily. You showed how the fence can be turned to either have a low or normal fence, well Loosen these fixing and then lock the fence off on the table. Now tighten the fixings on the fence again whilst the fence is in its locked position. I had the same issue with my Charnwood. This will stop the lift guaranteed!

[@johno4377]

Another great review! The wheel on my 18 month old Fury 5 table saw is so stiff now when trying to turn it to raise or lower the blade as well as setting the angle of the blade. The teeth for the wheel on this one (1:44) seem to be exposed whereas the old one was covered up partially by the front panel allowing sawdust to collect in there and block it all up so I can see the improvement in that regards. Shame about the fence, I made a temporary longer fence for mine (out an old drawer front!) which turned out to be surprisingly good so I kept it on! Doesn't say a lot for the original fence though!

[@UDoIt2]

I agree that the fence needs to be improved. The flex in the fence can result in gouging. I like a strong fence. Is there room on the arbor for dado blades or cabinet making blades? You know that I'm in Jersey, the new one (btw, newer doesn't mean better). Do they offer their products for sale in the USA?

[@petergdk]

I glad you got a saw for free - congratulations :). It's a cheap saw, which is cool. Seems get a lot of nice features in a affordable package. However: - With the propriertary mitre slot size, you won,t be able to buy any commercial mitre gauges, mitre tracks, thin rip jigs etc. That just seems stupid. - You didn't mention what the table was made of. If aluminium, how thick is the top plate? - It's sounded like a universal motor, with brushes, so it's very loud, and the brushes will wear out. - Did it have trunions, or a pin for blade tilting? Meaning - does it change the distance from the fence, when changing the angle? - Did you measure the run out with a dial indicator on the arbor? - The arbor size is 25,4mm, which is standard for mitre saws, but for table saws it's usually 30mm in the EU. So unless you wan't to use spacers, you are limited to using Mitre saw blades (or original Evoulution blades i guess), which has negative rake, meaning it is more prone to lifting the work pieces of the table top. - That fence is really flimsy. - How good is the longevity of the blade, if you do use it to cut steel, since this seems to be one of their main arguments to buy this saw. - How much does it weigh? Is it prone to moving, if pushing a heavy piece across through the blade? If it's meant to be portable, how easy is it to remove the legs? - The data sheet on their website is a joke. I enjoyed your video, but it seemed a little more like a commercial, than an actual review. Did they stupulate a favorable review i a contract, in order to provide you with the saw?

[@petergdk]

+Average Joes Joinery Hello again. Thank you for your respectful answer. No need to measure the thickness of the top, since i'm not in the marked for a saw rigth now. My observations are not meant as a personal critique of you. It's just a pet peave i have with KZbin reviews, which of course get favorable placements on google seaches, that basically describe the function of ANY product similar to the one reviewed: "This is a mobile phone. It has a speaker to produce audible sounds, and a microphone, to pick up sound waves from your vocal chords. It doesn't need an outlet, since it runs on batteries". Like all the "reviews" of the X-carve. A LOT of them where like "this is really great at cutting things that you design in a computer". Only after a long while, some bigger KZbin channels started discribing the serious faults. It was like a lot of people where so honoured to get something for free, they considered it rude to slam it. I guess it is possible that people buying a table saw doesn't have the faintest idea what such a tool can do, but i think most people buying a saw expects it to be able to raise and lower the blade. What is often interesting is the shorcommings and how well it performs expected tasks. Take the blade guard, where you tell us, that you take it off (smart move). That thing is downright dangerous. Normally you set the blade hight about 5mm over the thickness of the work piece. If you do that withthis saw, it will jam mid cut under the guard, leaving you with a workpiece trapped on a spinning blade. That's fine for a small workpiece, but for a long rip cut, you would have to back out of the cut. Your review did mention that the riving knife was lower than the blade, so you can make grooves without removing it. That kind of information is REALLY great. That is incidently also what makes the blade guard useless/dangerous, but who uses those anyway (except for the Saw Stop safety police). I'm not professional, but i am am a serious woodworker, and this saw is an entry level tool. But i seems to be a pretty decent one at that (again - except for the horrible fence). I wouldn't mind owning one, for cutting metal and resawing reclaimed wood with the odd nail in it. I appreciate that you take the time to make videos. I know what a long and ungrateful process this can be, so i think a free saw is a small compensation for the massive amount of work it is to produce, and i think your editing and camera work is good.

[@Create2make]

Great review Joe, There is always pros and cons with anything you buy, I have found on my cheap saw the plate round the blade is to weak near the center of the plate and when you push the wood through it pushes the plate down. So I hope the plate on the evolution is better. You are right it would be nice to get a fence that goes all the way across.

[@hansdegroot8549]

Thank you for this review. Might be useful when I want to buy my very first table saw in autumn.

[@stighds8518]

Another sound review there Joseph, I agree with the doubts about the fence though as I have a similar set up on my old saw and within time it will start to flex like a flexi thing at a flexible party for flexible people. I ended up making my own full length version to sort it out.

[@stighds8518]

It hooks over the back and then pulls tight against the front, not the best of set ups and can be a pain when making micro adjustment but will have to do me for now.

[@garywilliams3412]

Congratulations!! No piece of equipment is perfect and I know you will be making improvements as you go along. Good luck and thank you for the video.

[@onehunglow5978]

thank u Joe. i will let you know how I get on mate. thanx again for your advice.

[@fgardner]

If you guys like this I would check out the Einhell TC-TS 2025 U Table Saw. It appears to be the same machine in the a different color for £45 less on Amazon.

[@fgardner]

+Anthony Tobba Yes absolutely, just down to the blade. The TCT blade from the Fury is about £45 to buy separately, which does make the Fury seem better value if you want to cut metal. Einhell says it has an 1800W motor vs Fury's 1500W... Could be just marketing but for cutting wood Einhell seems better value.

[@George-sy8jw]

nice review!! very informative. was just thinking about getting a table saw. thanks Joe!

[@ShaunMeighan]

Very thorough and informative, nice one Joe!

[@petermitchell10]

Another great review Joe i think the Evolution saws are brilliant for the price and the materials you can cut with them. If you had to buy another expensive saws you would have to by different blades for different materials making it more expense so you get a bargain with these. Thanks for sharing. Pete

[@donkenny1666]

Good review mate...looking to get a table saw...will check this one out....

[@Paljk299]

Impressive being able to rip that unistrut like that, very useful feature. Though kickback from steel could be nasty if it ever happened.

[@benrichardson6464]

I hope they will send you new orange one when it comes out!

[@GnatManAllinCoIronWorks]

Outstanding review young Man. I'm glad you showed different medium being cut,and the use of the Miter gauge.Looking forward to new projects,and plenty of saw footage. Cheers Mate!,,,C-Ya!,,,,,,Peace!

[@GnatManAllinCoIronWorks]

I'm sure we will. I enjoy your channel,and your work on the "Home,and Garden" channel also.Thank you again,stay safe,and Love Life. Cheers!

[@sumosprojects]

G'day mate, nice review Joe. I started out with a Rockwell contractor type table saw but over time it didn't cut the mustard, I think like most woodworkers the next step up ( saving a wee bit longer ) is your cabinet style table saw because there is less play & vibration but they are solid & accurate & a once in a lifetime investment mate, grouse channel & keep up the great work, Dirk DownUnder

[@SharpEdgeWoodworking-UK]

The saw, the fence, the quality of the product people will decide for themselves........I think it seems pretty decent for its price but my only gripe with Evolution is that you are stuck with their blades. Why dont they just make it a standard 30mm bore so you could buy a dedicated timber blade, or a really high tooth blade for fine cuts. But great review as usual Joe.

[@SammyInnit]

You can buy arbor reduction rings at 30mmOD to 25.4mmID for around £5. I've bought blades in the past with a couple of these included so it's not a big issue.

[@temporecustos5722]

HI Joe, One point I would make if I may is that the blade has a 25.4 mm arbor hole. In my experience blades with this size central hole are really tricky to get hold of. You can obtain spacing washers but it's something to bear in mind. Cheers TC.

[@stoner1916]

Thank you for the helpful review

[@AverageJoesJoinery]

Thanks Naill! Glad you found it helpful 😊

[@Supershineshop]

Another great video Joe keep up the good work

[@Matthewroyermusic]

great review Joe

[@tooljunkie555]

good review Joe!- i like how it can cut through steel and nails with no worries. the adjustable fence and miter guage is pretty sweet but like u sd its too bad the fence didnt go all the way accross..looks like a decent t.saw though. have a good one man!

[@tooljunkie555]

***** sure looks like it is.. u should make one for it. Do a how to video. I wonder why evo. Didnt supply it with one thiugh ya know?

[@tooljunkie555]

***** cool man looking forward to seeing that if u do that. And yea i guess that does make sense .. hey youll have both then if u make it.. thats good to knkw though i never knew that about the short fence..thanks for the fyi

[@MikeS1935]

Joe what size is the workshop as i has a 6'x 8' shed which is a little cramped but its also is store for my garden tools I plan to to build a shed out of pallets for them using my shed as a workshop.

[@AverageJoesJoinery]

The shed Im in is 12 x 8 with the back 2 foot used for storage. Would love a larger space but wouldnt we all haha

[@chrismarkert7673]

IT IS A NICE LOOKING SAW!!

[@JamesManCave]

Do you not find the rip fence a little wobbly? I find as passing the wood over the blade the end of the fence flex's

[@AverageJoesJoinery]

+James' Man Cave I mentioned in the review how the fence flex's at the end. Its not ideal but I didnt have it effect any of my cuts. Pressure should be applied before the blade so after the cut doesnt matter all that much. Ideally the fence would be full length and not move of course.

[@dap2112]

great video, I just watched you video on the symposium and clicked the link to find your channel, you have just sold me this saw and I will get one as soon as mine breaks , great vids I might see you next year at Ukiws

[@ksp1278]

Great review. The wobbly fence would be a deal-breaker for me. Surely this makes this saw quite dangerous to use? At the very least it's going to affect the accuracy of cuts. I guess this is made to a tiny budget though, so that's not surprising. For the price, I think it's amazing, but personally I would spend more on something more solidly built. A table saw is probably one of the most dangerous power tools in the woodworking shop and I think it makes sense to buy the most solidly built one you can afford (even if it has to be second-hand to afford it).

[@ksp1278]

+Average Joes Joinery Yes, you are probably right. I did actually look at this saw, or one very similar, in a B&Q store. They look good value and probably do the job. I guess most people can't really justify even spending £300 on a powertool.

[@ksp1278]

+Average Joes Joinery yep. It sure is addictive. Very satisfying when you complete a project though. I don't have a workshop yet (10x8 shed coming soon) and have done most of my woodworking in the garden with a circular saw.

[@87meow]

Great review ar kid very detailed and the West kids accent makes it that much better to watch as I'm from walsall .I've subbed and liked well done keep it gooin

[@AverageJoesJoinery]

Thanks Nathan! Glad you found the review helpful 😊 Im in Wolverhampton haha

[@stevecollins9450]

Good review, Joe. I think I would build my own fence for it.

[@charliewood4158]

I would look into the fence wiggle mabey you can get a aftermarket fence

[@charliewood4158]

+Average Joes Joinery I am sure you will figure something out

[@SammyInnit]

Good review of the saw but a few things Evolution could improve. I know for the price it would be unfair to expect all the bells and whistles but the fence seems a little too flimsy for what I'd like. Infact the first thing I'd do is fashion one out of unistrut! Also the stop start switch I think is a real oversight. I'm sure you've seen yourself, the flip down emergency stop cap can easily become dislodged and that would make it harder to stop the machine in a panic. My Bosch has a stop switch that you literally throw your knee at if you're in a tricky situation. Evolution should really give this more consideration I feel.

[@mitchwoodwork]

Thorough review Joe. Mind those fingers though!!

[@johnhickton1017]

Hi Joe have you got the measurements for the table saw bench please?

[@vincebaker3384]

The video & review were good but if I was shopping for a new table saw I would not pick this one even thou said the short fence didn't have a negative affect on your cuts I have never seen any table saw with a fence like that & I think it just looks bad.

[@vincebaker3384]

why do you think in the UK they make the fences short? It cant be for safty can it

[@markrussell8391]

+Average Joes Joinery Much more difficult to get kickback if the fence doesn't project back beyond the blade

[@bengalbhoy]

Excellent review Joe. I am new to this woodworking game but very keen to get some knowledge and your vids are great as you keep it nice and simple. Would it be difficult for a novice like me to make a wooden full length fence for this machine?

[@AverageJoesJoinery]

Thanks Patrick! :) Glad you found it helpful. Making a full length fence for this saw could be as simple as clamping a block of wood onto the table at both ends. There is also a variety of different home made fences on youtube. Its worth having a look around and see if anything catches your eye

[@willemkossen]

Good review. Nice tool!

[@maxximumb]

Nice honest review. It looks like a cool saw, apart from the fence issue. Are you going to build it into your table saw / router cabinet?

[@woodworks3585]

Well My Friend That was An Awesome Review Buddy. I liked everything about the saw apart from like you said the fence. It would be great with a full length fence. Apart from that mate I do love that saw.. I will share this video wherever I can :) always willing to help a friend out. Thank you for sharing and take care mate :) :)

[@woodworks3585]

***** Your very Welcome Mate. Great Job :)

[@deanreynolds2027]

good honest review,when you made that groove cut ,what was the thickness it looked thicker than an average blade closer to 4mm than 3 unless it was just the magnification

[@michaelflynn6178]

Great saw for the price Thanks

[@camscookingshow2988]

Grea vid. Titan from screw fix do s saw that is identical, or appears to be. What do you think? It's half the price!

[@onehunglow5978]

great video again Joe. i had this table saw march last year for my birthday. But fot some reason when im tying to rip wood it starts to vibrate. I think the motor slows down then it struggles. Any ideas Joe?? cheers.

[@onehunglow5978]

Hey Joe. Thanks Joe for your reply. Ive hardly used the tablesaw. The wood doesnt burn during cutting nor ripping, but you mentioned about the wood bending and not going through straight. I have thought myself that may be the cause, or do you think whilst Im pushing the wood through the blade itself is slightly turning and causing this problem. I will have a tinker over the weekend and cut different sizes of wood and let you know. Cheers joe. Andy

[@mihumus]

Nice video, mate. I hope you enjoy your new toy. :)

[@albinchilinski]

Good review

[@spencerfranklin3811]

Shop looks to have change. Shop tour soon???

[@Samberlong]

Good review Joe.

[@rangerbravo]

nice review. I agree about the fence. seems flimsy.

[@rangerbravo]

+Average Joes Joinery I've seen people use lengths of PVC pipe to make a full-length fence.

[@rangerbravo]

+Average Joes Joinery you would attach pvc pipe to back of the fence with a t connector on the end farthest from you. put a length of same diameter pvc intersecting the first under the table. find a way to have the t connector slide through the second piece of pipe if that makes sense.

[@rangerbravo]

+Average Joes Joinery good luck with it. if it works, won't be in it for too much.

[@rangerbravo]

+Average Joes Joinery no problem

[@arankhan]

Hey joe, Have you had a look at any aftermarket fences for the saw ? Maybe there could be one compatible that is full length.

[@AverageJoesJoinery]

+Aran Khan Hi Aran, I have looked at few aftermarket fences but didnt find any that are suitable. They also are very expensive, I wouldnt like to speand the same as the saw costs on a fence haha

[@kingscottage]

Hey Joe Great review bud. Told me everything that I need. This should be more than capable for my requirements. Would you recommend a blade with more teeth per inch for cutting sheet ply with a laminate covering? I need a good clean cut without chipping along the edge. Cheers John.

[@AverageJoesJoinery]

Thanks John! Glad you found it helpful :) I haven't got any personal experience with using any blade other than the standard blade that comes fitted. Evolution do sell a specific wood cutting blade too but I've never used it. Something to bare in mind is that the Evolution saws have a different sized arbour to standard blades so if you get a different branded blade you will also need an adaptor. A couple of tips that help when cutting laminates is to first make a shallow scoring cut with the blade only raised up slightly. You could also make a scoring cut with a razor blade too. Another tip would be to put a strip of masking tape along where the cut will be. It really does help to stop any chip out.

[@The-Bloke]

Thanks Joe, great review. I'm just getting into woodworking and seem to have become an all-Evolution guy, already having the Rage 3 mitre, Rage 8 reciprocating, and Rage 7-S jigsaw (all purchased used from their eBay outlet.) I really want a table saw and this Fury 5-S would seem the natural choice - not least because (I assume) it can use the same 255mm x 25.4mm blades as my Rage 3 255mm mitre saw. I just bought their 40 tooth wood blade so would be good if I can interchange blades between the mitre and the table saw. One question: have you had any thoughts about improving the fence? You seem like a guy who builds your own jigs/improvements, so I wondered if you had any plans to work out a way to change/improve the fence, so it could be clamped both ends? I was thinking maybe even just extending the fence would work - like cutting a piece of wood the same thickness as it, and bolting that to the end of the fence so it goes the full length of the table, and can then be clamped at the other end? What do you think? One other option I have for a table saw is the Erbauer 250mm which I *think* does have a full-length fence, so that's still one minor concern I have re the Evolution. Anyway, thanks again for the great video - subscribed!

[@TheAsylum100]

The thing is what it is, like all power tools price really does show. This thing is ok for cutting the odd bit of wood, if you want something that will cut straight every time then £400 and up guys not one of these cheap plastic gear jokes

[@AverageJoesJoinery]

You do have to keep expectations in line with the price of tools. There some cheap gems though 👌 Like you say this saw does the job and it does do it well but you wont get fine joinery grade results from it

[@KSFWG]

Nice review, Joe.

[@JohnSmith-ki2eq]

Nice review mate : )

[@smnhpkns]

great review joe, from simon down the rd

[@GibClark]

Great review!!!

[@JohnT2001]

does this have the standard british 3 pin plug?

[@AverageJoesJoinery]

+John Thackray yes it has a standard 3 pin plug 👍😊

[@TJSWOODWORKINGSHOP]

Very good my brother, and i need too get one too it's a nice one sir :)

[@TJSWOODWORKINGSHOP]

No problem my friend :)

[@robertevans6481]

Nice table saw only thing is that fence but I see you modding it ...

[@robertevans6481]

+Average Joes Joinery I am sure you will get that modification done. Looking forward to more of your builds.

[@MrGeoffreySmith]

Is it really under 200 squid? I'm interested!

[@MrGeoffreySmith]

+Average Joes Joinery it really seems like a good deal. Is the motor tough enough?

[@SamerShennar]

can I do resaw of thick board on this?

[@AverageJoesJoinery]

You can resaw using this saw yes. You can flip the boards over to get a deeper resaw capacity too.

[@SamerShennar]

Average Joe's Joinery thanks for the reply. I just bought this and heard some people say the fence is flimsy and hence I got worried that it may make resaw difficult or even dangerous. I'm also a table saw noob :-/

[@AverageJoesJoinery]

The fence does move when a lot of pressure is applied. Try to keep your pressure against the fence before the blade, this is where its more stable. Like any tool, if you dont feel comfortable then dont attemp it.

[@SamerShennar]

Thanks. Would it be possible to clamp a board from both sides behind the fence to prevent shifting at the far end? I thought of this as simple solution but never seen anyone do it so I maybe thinking of something dangerous?

[@AverageJoesJoinery]

+Samer Shennar That would work. It can be awkward to get the clamps in but as long as they are behind the fence out of the way of the cut it will be fine.

[@user-ph7dn6gi5g]

Drill the same as this brand Types of electric drills

[@TJSWOODWORKINGSHOP]

Ok you have the older one and a new one good you have too lol :)

[@johngriffiths689]

Don't sell out Joe

[@johngriffiths689]

***** It was a recommendation

[@johngriffiths689]

***** Just keep taking the freebies. ..lol

[@johngriffiths689]

***** okay

[@nowherebrain]

no, it's total piece of crap...truly horrible saw....DO NOT BUY THIS SAW...

[@AverageJoesJoinery]

Its the best saw at its price point. More than good enough for DIY use