India-China’s 60-year see-saw on border package deal & story of a tribal patriot who won us Tawang

#Ladakh #LAC #India #China #Tawang
Amid the ongoing Ladakh disengagement along the LAC, a look at how an India-China ‘package deal’ for border settlement has been elusive. From the era of Nehru to Vajpayee to now. Also, a story of a fascinating character who secured Tawang & those few magnificent men of Indian Frontier Administrative Service. Shekhar Gupta with episode 518 of ThePrint's #CutTheClutter.
Correction: At 1:23, it is LAC. The error is regretted.
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[@ravindrapratapsinghshekhaw4562]

Without this story of The Print most of us would never have known the extraordinary spirit of Ralengnao Khathing! Kudos SG

[@ravindrapratapsinghshekhaw4562]

@Xye Leyx the year was 1957, and your Expansionist china is claiming the whole of south china sea right now! Deal with it..

[@tomorrowland2684]

@Xye Leyx Do you think that you can claim part of Bhutan, or South China Sea or in case any territory that may be part of some dynasty in 1800. Then Tibet or Xinjinag or some parts doesn't belong to China. There should be a timeline where the claims should freeze.

[@stxfdt1240]

@Xye Leyx dude fuck off you won't do shit

[@indiaexpress4547]

@Xye Leyx Very persuasive argument.👍😁

[@iampokhrel]

@Xye Leyx Actually the Kailash Mansarovar area belonged to India, as our Lord Shiva came from there. And it was an Indian territory. So we should lay claims to that area. And don't bullshit me with the "age of expansion is over" line. I don't care. If Chinese can claim our sovereign area as their, then so can we.

[@ravindrapratapsinghshekhaw4562]

Bob was a simple man, He enrolls in his country's army, takes assignment from his government to pursue national interest. In other words, does everything he can for his country's good. Be like Bob. 👨‍🦳

[@zehahahha]

one viable financial model for "The Print" could be that you guys open up a patreon account and take special questions from the members who subscribe to that in your "off the cuff" and other live sessions....i would definitely pay for it and considering how politically aware The Print aficionados are i am sure you would find a deluge of memberships. Seems like a lot more viable model than the trite and hackneyed monthly/yearly membership model and i am sure donations are not going to be sustainable as you scale up. This would definitely ensure a steady stream of cash flows and you guys definitely deserve to scale up and go mainstream.

[@saurabh.shringarpure]

This.

[@bipulkumar6637]

@Pink Panther you should rethink what you think.

[@rushigaikwad]

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[@zehahahha]

Rushikesh Gaikwad i mean any idea works...it’s about monetising the time and effort of Shekhar Gupta rather then asking money behind a paywall or asking no money at all

[@zehahahha]

Light York I think “The Print” has a lot of valuable content between just Shekhar Gupta and Ila Patnaik....but then again beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder and what I am suggesting doesn’t cost anything...worst case scenario they don’t lose anything

[@deepaksharma8401]

From u only we came to about soldiers like Mr Bob , great story of great soldiers who served so much for India

[@agytjax]

For all his services Major Bob Khathing only got a Padma Shri and forgotten by fellow Indians. Even today, people from NE are discriminated as "Chinki" in the rest of India. Kudos to Mr. Gupta and The Print for remembering and honoring such great Indians.

[@rudreshacharrudresh1836]

Development also no done in north east because of kerala communists.thanks sardar Patel to give bob like diamond to india

[@viradiyaviraj3010]

Great history... Why we always learnt Akbar, Aurangzeb,Humayu etc in our education syllabus, which is totally unrelavant nowadays. ... This army man name must be including in our history syllabus so every child known about it.

[@rayyanamir8560]

Akbar , Aurangzeb were Indians as well despite of having a Mongol background.

[@user-zl1nj8ye5g]

There were bigger Kings than Akbar and his father Babar... This mughal centrism is stupidity of nehru era

[@rayyanamir8560]

@Kaushal Batavia I agree they weren't perfect however their kingdom was entirely based in India unlike the British who used to loot India and take the wealth to UK. That's what I meant to say.

[@shridharb1131]

Islamic rule is glorified by the N-G dynasty and the Left historians. It was convenient to glorify muslims and secure their(Congress party) vote banks and that’s how they ruled India for the majority of 65 years. That is ‘not all’ it’s just a small aspect of our history. It will be conflict of interest for Shekharji to cut this ‘Clutter’ India will become a global power when we realise this fact (our historical legacy of being a rich nation-both in terms of cultural/spiritual and economic power) and grow out of this mindset.

[@kevinp9110]

totally read my mind. no ways brooding over a battle that took 300 years ago. its time the new generation learn about the battle fought after independence. before independence rajas died for their personal kingdom, after independence its for the motherland.

[@adarshpandey8657]

The Zhou - Nehru episode is nicely written in the David M Malone's book Does Elephant Dance . A must read for India' s foreign policy understanding.

[@mohittomar6713]

Bob was really a hero thank u bob

[@prathameshkale1468]

Xye Leyx Haha nice to see a leftist/ Pakistani troll🤪🤪🤪🤪

[@GagandeepSingh-ns8sx]

@Xye Leyx U want war start it we will end it for sure... Why China didn't release number of casualties for Galwan incident.. This is not 1962 Indian army is prepared.. Read about 1967.. Not a inch of territory will be given to China..

[@GagandeepSingh-ns8sx]

@Xye Leyx better than ur Wolf Warrior

[@mohittomar6713]

@Xye Leyx chutia tu nahi samajh sakta tere pay grade se uppar ki baat hai

[@yogeshjog6072]

@Xye Leyx enabler of expansionism? Bob? As far I understood tawang was -always with british india -south of the mcmohan line. Before Bob , Whole NEFA (arunachal) was ill administered. That's why somehow Tibet continued collecting taxes from region , he drove the tibetan tax collectors away and established the formal border Which then n till date was never challenged by china. (So Formal border Bob set which british n Tibetans probably in 1914 established only on papers) There must be 100 of such locations , ambiguous, even if both parties agree manmohan line.

[@manjulchandola]

Possibly Shekhar Gupta's best video! It provides a great historic timeline of the border negotiations between India and China including the unheralded story of Ralengnao Khathing who literally helped to shape India!

[@prashantmalik777]

I wonder what did we learn in history about India after independence. I mean why I feel a sense of guilt not knowing these facts. But great job Shekhar sir.

[@dr.history1119]

We learned nothing except secularism🤣

[@dr.history1119]

@jelly bean why🤣. I have muslim and christian friends too ... But we learnt about this kingdom, that kingdom but never clearly did we learn about post 1947-india .. The real heroes.. We did not learn about northeast

[@ThePrintIndia]

Good point. Thanks for writing in. Do keep watching this space for more videos!

[@ayonchatterjee1]

Appreciate SG's efforts to keep us knowledgeable. I'm sure most of us never heard of Bob Khating. Thank you

[@GagandeepSingh-ns8sx]

Why are we not taught about people like Bob Khatin in history books.. Why are we only taught about Gandhiji??

[@chenneal5036]

Because it doesn't belong to India. It's just a tool that to provoke China-India relations. It's the same thing like Diaoyu Islands between China and Japan. Only when people in Asia struggle, can developed countries stop the development of developing countries

[@GagandeepSingh-ns8sx]

@@owlsilence was it there in post independence history besides Nehru??

[@GagandeepSingh-ns8sx]

@@chenneal5036 Tibet, Manchuria, Inner Mongolia, Xinjiang doesn't belong to China either go preach them history....

[@GagandeepSingh-ns8sx]

@@owlsilence the issue we are made to believe that we are here becaz of Gandhiji's non-violence movement,and details of all other freedom fighters are suppressed , same is the case with post-independence figures whose details are suppressed to make way Nehru-Gandhi dynasty..

[@chenneal5036]

@@GagandeepSingh-ns8sx hahahaha Read more history in BOOK, u are as stupid as politicians expected. The internet media said that China's economy collapsed for 30 years, but China kept the development .U couldn't get much useful information about China on the internet. All the information there is against the Chinese media's obscenity.

[@kharkhuiraleng3433]

Thank you Sir for narrating the Story of the Unsung Hero- Maj Bob Khathing Ralengnao. #Recognition #deserve Bharat Ratna Award and Inclusion of his Biography in CBSE syllabus.

[@vkramchander1126]

Kudos to Major Bob Khathing! We indeed owe a debt of gratitude to him. That he is not widely known, is a telling commentary on our media and academicians, fixated as they have been, on Delhi and the Dynasty. Thanks for the information on the redoubtable Major as well as the recap of the border issues.

[@shikharsrivastava6263]

I am sure the yellow notebook is filled up with lots of factual info, SG sir always keeps it, in every CTC.😄

[@ajiththomas4099]

Very True As far as the some history that I have read Aksai Chin was an undemarcated area even during British times And as Nehru said Not even a blade of grass grows there But for the Chinese it is very important that is their access to Tibet from the Western provinces And is an important life line for them Considering good neighbourly relations and also that India had accepted the one China policy and the annexation of Tibet into China India should have magnanimously accepted Chou En Lais Proposal that they keep Aksai Chin and India keep Arunachal ie the Initial proposal of We keep what is with us and You Keep what is with you

[@shridharb1131]

AJITH THOMAS it was a mistake to accept Tibet as part of China and this will have to be reversed now.. see my comments elsewhere

[@lalwrites]

Sir, How beautifully you put it all together while remembering a forgotten hero!! Kudos!

[@dangmeipunshi]

Salute to SG, for such an insight story no one can do better than him.. much appreciated being part of the people you are referring and never knew this story

[@karandharni6299]

Bang on time 👍🏼

[@sankalp6872]

Right now, China: "Sab Kuch mera hai?" India: "Baap ka maal hai kya?"

[@jnaneshwarkonanur323]

What a man Maj. Khathing was!!, truly served the country and his people, thank you SG for bringing us these kinds of information amid the noise of mainstream media.

[@mike2009SA]

Wow! Very good information. Thanks so much

[@sayanchx]

@SG @ThePrint please provide coverage on Indian enclaves in Tibet like Minsar. It is a disservice if you do not. I am a regular and paid viewer ... Keep up the good work - Tawang is an amazing place and Bob Khatin deserved a Bharat Ratna

[@Vdbail]

So much valuable information. Keep up the good work.

[@anandds1]

Thanks for narrating the history of more than 7 decades almost from our independence. It has to be looked upon with the holistic approach without being prejudiced against any particular government/ideology. Kudos!!

[@sureshsrinivasan5523]

Thanks, SG for the very informative post. The story of the Indian patriot, Bob Kathing, was truly inspirational. We need to change the way our history books are written!

[@pentyalavenkatasivaramapra4893]

Excellent information.Thanks for that.

[@onetoughlittle]

Very nice of you mention about Tawang history ,hardly known in normal media

[@natarajkailasam414]

Excellent historical research gives us a very good insight into the whole issue of border disputes between India and China from the 50s. The story of Tabang was particularly of very great interest. You carried the narrative in a very captivating manner. Not just this episode, all episodes clearly stand out for their finesse, ease of narrative, which are easily grasped by your readers. Good luck to the Print team and to SG Sir.

[@kritikasingh90]

I really wish you showed all these conflict areas in a single map. The visuals you use clutter my mind even further. Try using moving arrows and other assistive cues.

[@atulkumarsingh8325]

Doing great job SG Sir, story behind tawang was very informative.

[@m4st3rm1nd9]

So, India rejected the package deal three times (1960, 1980-81, 1988) because of democratic opposition. What a shame.

[@nirmalpauly]

Really informative. Thank you Sheakar uncle

[@paxstanisnorthwestindia6723]

Sir, You are amazing. Keep teaching us 🙏👌

[@csowm5je]

The link was not added: regarding the India, China, Tibet History blog 21:05

[@akbarbootha6875]

A complex subject well explained. Thank you.

[@urs.sriharsha]

This is Absolute Gold !!! 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

[@adityaraikar1979]

Dear sir, it would be great help if u include episode no in the video title rather than inside the video. Because if we miss couple of videos sometime, it is easy to remember the episode no and later it watch. Thank you

[@pradyumnagokhale2582]

Beautifully educative.

[@gouthamlakinapally2283]

Thank you Major Bob 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@saurabhkad]

@SG Always enjoy your trivia stories on these small pivotal moments

[@Manukaushik15]

What an amazing level of thought went into creating India as we know it. Not many would even know about IFAS. As usual a good cut the clutter. You could have also mentioned RN Kao in this. He was in China in Oct 1984 when Indira Gandhi was assassinated. He was an old china hand.

[@anshupandya3494]

Trust me, there are many Indians including me, who heard the name Bob Khating for the first time. You may not know it, but this thing that you are doing is the greatest service to the nation in the times of polarized world.

[@abhishekjoshi4648]

Extremely impressive and beautiful piece of journalism🙏🙏🙏👌👌👍👍

[@rajanarayananbadrinathan5667]

Another super article!!!

[@sandeepsaxena8266]

Quite informative episode, thanks

[@GauravKumar-bt2oj]

Did you say patrolling point and spelled it to make it a joke on ashutosh as he called it petroleum point....Or I am thinking too much? 😂😂

[@RahulSinghTomar13]

Thank you Major Bob Khating, and thanks Mr. Gupta for highlighting his contribution.

[@DIYBill]

Congrats on the million subscribers in advance

[@raminderahluwalia9662]

What a great history lesson Mr Gupta. Thanks

[@sp-vi5he]

Shekhar Gupta ji like to thank you and your team to take up suggestion on NEFA and its history. Good job, very well researched ,Kudos to your research team.

[@viciolupu]

Another gem from the Shekhar Gupta teaching history to Indians

[@niks1298]

Gupta sir namaskar. Good to see you again after 1 day in the best of your health and spirit.

[@adarshkcl4700]

Love the history. Good Topics.

[@parveenyadav6648]

We must not forget our Heroes..Thank You BOB

[@abhaysiddhanth7723]

Gupta Ji, the link to the blog is missing. Kindly add the same.

[@nganthoikhwaiz2435]

Major Bob Khatin from Manipur brought Tawang from Tibet for India but Jawaharlal Nehru gave Manipur's rich and fertile plain Kabow valley to Myanmar

[@vinodvarma5401]

An excellent presentation

[@beliramthakur4376]

Very nice Sir . Although I lost faith in other electronic new channel

[@kartikeyapanwar]

Description is missing the link to blog discussed in the last minute odd.

[@dhamalsri]

Surprised that Major Bob Kating is not that well known in India. Even more surprising that "The Print" under the stewardship of Mr. Sekhar Gupta decided to publish it. Major is a legend in Myanmar and Malaysia. Definitely Major Bob Khating was one the greatest soldier in Modern Times from North East. A great Naga, cast in the mould of Bhabhruvahan, the Naga son of Pandav Arjun, who had nonchalantly defeated his own illustrious Father. No task was too difficult for Major Khating. His planning and execution was superb. Kudos to the then Governor of Assam, who got this task done during and despite the reign of Pundit Jawaharlal Nehru as PM, Mountabatten as Governor General and British COAS General Francis Bucher...the trio would have definitely relished a "Kashmir" in the North East of India too. Mr. Gupta, being an ideologically bonded Nehruphile may not agree with my views. As a non-Indian Student and Admirer of India, I have the unfair advantage (vis-a-vis Mr. Gupta) of being a dispassionate and distanced observer of Indian Geo Politics. Whereas Pundit Nehru has done some great contribution toward building a modern India - multi party democracy, free election, IIT, ISRO BARC, SAIL, BHEL etc etc. His strong Socialistic Ideology constrained India's animal spirit, he kept Armed Forces weak and most importantly (unfortunately) created a false and defensive narrative of India, wherein the invaders were fawned upon and the Nationalists and traditional cultural ethos frowned upon. I find my Indian friends so defensive and apologetic of their own obvious strength. They often seem to know so little of the great inclusive traditions of Indian Culture, wherein all races, thoughts, philosophy and theology were welcomed. Infact most seem to think that acknowledging that they are Hindu is somehow a blot on Secularism. Pity...wake up India, we need more Borphukan and Bob Kating in these turbulent times. For with strength comes peace.

[@vishnu4234]

Has microphone quality gone up? Noise cancellation is good now.

[@sagartilokani9839]

The story about bob khatin (apologize for wrong spelling) was truly inspirational. Why doesn’t the indian education system tells you about these stories of bravery is mind boggling.

[@savithakl7577]

See here how Nehru was kept in the dark about Tawang brought into India :I hear Constantly hear about the activities of the North and North-East Border Defence Committee. These activities have resulted in action being taken on the Tibetan border and in Nepal. At no stage have these matters been brought up before me for consultation, although apparently, consultations have taken place with the Governor of Assam and other people far away. I am greatly concerned about this matter because, as I have already mentioned to you, the manner of our going to Tawang and taking possession of it and thus creating some international complications has not been a happy one. I am yet not quite clear how all this was done without any reference to me,” Nehru wrote. However, Arpi recounts that days before his untimely death, Sardar Patel, who was Home Minister, had issued an order to Jairamdas Daulatram and APO Khathing to conduct this operation without apparently taking Nehru into confidence. Patel did not want a repeat of the Kashmir situation. Nehru’s unhappiness, however, did not have any real consequences for Khathing’s career.

[@nitin198in]

Wow! Why is it not taught in our history books. What a HERO!

[@ShivamPal-mz4lh]

He didn't provide the link to the blog he wqs talking about, can somebody give its name ?

[@68satt]

Good history lessons which I didn't know..

[@drdurgeshmodi7106]

I think this is the 1st time I have heard Mr Gupta use "can't not" - a double negative in cut the clutter, atleast in the recent times.

[@vishalyengarg]

Pl. share the link of the blog that you mentioned towards the end?

[@dixitsantosh2]

Major Bob Khateeng Salute to you Vande Mataram 💐🇮🇳🙏🙏 Shekhar Ji thank you for focusing on the unknown history.

[@GururajBN]

By sending Zhou Enlai to Morarji et al, Nehru was covering his ass, instead of resolving an important problem for the country.

[@ritwik-8188]

Gururaj BN Nehru is surely to blame here, he was a weak PM!

[@TheRohandas]

Wonderful especially how twang included in India.

[@bhatakti_atama]

Love shekhar ji and his notes

[@kokuyocamlin07]

*21:03** where is the link Gupta ji?*

[@rajukep6599]

It's always non existent I searched for the links in every video it's not there 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Mohit98303]

21:04 no link in description

[@ashishsawant81]

Another Great lesson in history. We owe it to ordinary people like Bob khating who with their foresight & dedication to our country have ensured that the future generations live peacefully.

[@lijojose6042]

What's that monument being Shekhar ji? Or is it a grand entrance to Shekhar ji's bungalow? 😊

[@pbhonsley]

Love the story time section of CTC.. A novel is made of a thousand stories..

[@sauravrath5105]

Great episode

[@swarupchakraborty5615]

Sir honestly watching your informative videos without any inclination is worthwhile. It is now habit to see your informative videos evryday.Thank you for your kind knowledge share .

[@amritpalsingh3293]

Sir do you think India has ever done in the past or doing now or can do any Salami Tactics on the Chinese side?

[@rakesh3k2]

Nice and detailed report... Why was it not taught us in our history classes in school !?

[@karan200590]

at 21.04 SG is talking about some blog. who is the one , i cant understand the name clearly.

[@karan200590]

ok i got that... its claudearpi blogspot

[@vivekanand4547]

True patriot and a legend Major Bob khathing , son of soil and a smart guy. Thank u print for letting us know abt this legend.

[@ayanverma5746]

China before 2003 :- Airtel "Jo tera hai vo tera, jo mera h vo mera China after 2004 :- Gian(doraemon) Dekho nobita jo tumhara hai vo mera hai, aur jo mera hai vo to mera hi rahega 😂

[@rahulverma2k5]

Very informative

[@anudhyanmishra9851]

Sir where is the link of the blog u talked about ?

[@SabyasachiChatterjee82]

Gupta Ji please make a show about Indian students who have to go to China to complete their study . There are many of them .

[@akkisat93]

SG sir, u haven't given link of the Blog u mentioned

[@parvathiparmeshwar8088]

Some mistakes in the points being flashed on the screen . Picked up the threat ? It must b thread

[@Sid-MMA]

What an idiot Governments we always had .... When China was offering boder settlement in return for Aksai Chi why didn't we go for it ?? They already have full sovereignty over Aksai chin ,what were we thinking?? Now Chinese are creeping in bit by bit inside Indian territory and we are clueless. 😕

[@hrushikesh963]

I always learn something new from your videos,, having said that we have enough of China and covid can you please change the topic in your next video

[@bindurao3463]

Thanks for narrating the story of Bob Khating

[@paxstanisnorthwestindia6723]

Recently dekhna start kiya....but acha lag raha...baaki news media to facts pr baat nhi karti. ....Sirf animated blast,Oli Honeytraped...ye wo yehi sab karti.

[@hrishikeshbhuyan9734]

P-A-T-R-O-L-L-I-N-G Shekhar ji, pranam.

[@chakrapanitenali9295]

Nice work Sir. Can you share some daily snippets about some forgotten heroes that this motherland has produced? Maybe for 2-3 minutes talk about their contributions? Can be from any field. Thanks a lot.

[@sbasu03]

Love the Airtel example! Well done!

[@sachinsatyarthi7032]

Once again bang on with contemporary political history.

[@alonewestand1519]

SG, best journalist in India right now who highlights stories such as this not like Indian Lamestream Media. Wonderful job! 👍