Indian Defence Updates : Su-57 Demo in India,290 Tejas MK1A,3 Super Kalvari,ITCM Test,HALE UAV Stuck

Top 13 Latest Indian Defence News Headlines on today’s “Indian Defence Updates” episode 18-4-2024 are as follows :
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1. DRDO tests #ITCM missile
2. Iranian delegation examined the S-400 production in Yekaterinburg
3. ISRO makes light-weight nozzle for rocket engines
4. iDEX challenge : Indian pvt sector companies sought to develop predictive maintenance for naval platforms
5. New premier testing & evaluation hub for sonar systems inaugurated in Kerela
6. MPATGM heads for Final User Evaluation by Indian Army
7. Indian Army chief inaugurates state of the art IT lab in Uzbekistan
8. Indian air force looks to order 6 Mid Air Refuellers
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9. Russia to demonstrate Su-57 in India #Su57India
10. Quality vs Quantity : 114 Rafale vs 290 Tejas MK1A
11. DRDO to develop Turbojet powered loitering munition
12. France offers India Lithium Ion power for 3 #SuperKalvari
13. HALE uav program stalls as private sector seeks Foreign Collaboration
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What's Your Opinion : "Su-57 Demo In India" ? ＬＩＫＥ | ＣＯＭＭＥＮＴ | ＳＨＡＲＥ | ＳＵＢＳＣＲＩＢＥ

[@harishankarkandankumarath9922]

Shouldn't bother with that unless they give us access to all the critical tech. But that shouldn't affect the AMCA program

[@Vartik-tq1du]

​@@harishankarkandankumarath9922 access to all critical tech? Will india give all AMCA critical tech to any nation? 😬

[@srikanth85in]

Like all Russian jets this might also be good at airshows..

[@SomeGuy-ti1ln]

I wish one day su57 come to fly along with AMCA. Sky will be beautiful that day. The question is will AMCA come by time to fly along su57? 😉😉

[@anubratadas4911]

54 Su-57 can be purchased as a stop gap measure

[@cp_pdn]

Continue with AMCA !!!!

[@truth_gives_pain]

Yes 💯 Nothing better than indigenous products.

[@globalterroil3208]

How long is it going to take to fully develop _that_ program and how much is it going to cost?

[@albertsaikhom7]

By the time India have AMCA .. China will have 200+ J20 and 6th Gen . Pak will have J20 and Turkey KAAN 5 th gen .

[@truth_gives_pain]

@@albertsaikhom7 Being Late better than importing

[@manisherande4568]

continue till 2090

[@starbeard5538]

No to Su57! We want AMCA

[@manisherande4568]

you will have it i 2090

[@KrishBB]

Yes if war brakes out then we will say to enemy that wait for a decade for us to develop gen 5 fighter then attack 😅

[@sanjeevkumartiwari4426]

@@KrishBB what's the point of buying a 5th gen fighter with such high cost when Russia was not even willing transfer the technology

[@KrishBB]

@@sanjeevkumartiwari4426 naah we only buy if they give transfer of technology. But considering Pakistans upcoming 5th gen fighter threats we must consider getting a squadron of 5th gen as well atleast before our AMCA get ready .

[@KrishBB]

@@sanjeevkumartiwari4426 also if AMCA in any case becomes a disappointment even after so long wait . Then we purchase 5th gen from foreign then it will be no difference either .

[@ImranHussain-pb9dk]

Our government need to support our defence industry and we need to buy our tejas mk2 more in numbers

[@manisherande4568]

Old and under developed aircraft

[@NAVNEETSRIVASTAVA-ws4wu]

The news about nirbhaya missile and our Manik engine is some calm and advancement of our indigenous technology great news 😊

[@Jefe-Grande]

Yes - but notice the tested range reported by IDU was exactly equal to the 980km NOTAM that's unadvisable in case things don't go as planned with many ships are around - so this test was to prove Manik at much shorter range that translates to longer range depending on fuel burn that will be optimised for greatest Range at 0.7Mach to 0.8Mach....

[@SMCGPRA]

Need more engine types

[@humungous09]

They must have successfully tested Nirbhay with Manik engine. Bravo! Well done DRDO! Operationalize it at the earliest..

[@weall2031]

Tejas MK1A is economically and reliable but it belong to different segment no comparison with Rafale

[@manisherande4568]

we get low quality obosolete underdeveloped aircraft with american engines and british systems

[@Safeena-xh6sb]

​@@manisherande4568Why you are barking in all comments😂😂

[@himanshusingh-st7xi]

​@@manisherande4568like f35, f22 r whole made in USA 🤡

[@qwill8254]

True . These analyst don't know difference . 😅😅😅😅😅

[@surfer_silver]

Tejas - When we buy them, the money goes into the local economy amd develops the sector further !!! Mrfa / Rafale - the money goes out !!!!

[@saibalbh31]

Paise le ke Jaana border pe Larne.

[@himanshumadhan6376]

Mr economist. When we are weak and if china attack us. . Money goes out out out ..when they attck most gdp spend on war and economy fell. If we have mix of rafael f4 and f5 in sufficient numbers plus large artillery and bvr missiles.. we spend a bit more..But it will cost nothing compared to war situation. Being stroger We avert war for decade and more, saving life and money both.. Dnt brag about mk2 and amca etc .. will take 15 years to produce them in decent quantity. And tejas mk1a is point defence aircarft. Not one to dominate the skies. su30mki has large rcs compared to china planes and is in insufficient numbers..

[@ganeshm5166]

Cannot depend fully in tejas ..... tejas is not war proof yet.....tejas haven't face war like situation yet....

[@vaimurthy]

This called penny wise pound foolish. When war comes, you need jet which can protect you.

[@SidhiJalebi8]

China will not dare. India so has air defense systems. More important is good drones.

[@SomeGuy-ti1ln]

Comparing a patrolling light jet tejas with twin engine double capable rafale is highly motivated. We all support tejas but this is 2024 and not 1947 where we will use quantity over quality everytime. Pilot life is at stake.

[@SomeGuy-ti1ln]

@SixShot07 Kya hua? Does your statement make any sense

[@JackSordakaPVS]

This competition between QUALITY and QUANTITY shows how much our air force has progressed. I don't remember Su-30s having such debates and discussions. However, i have faith that IAF will make an optimum mix of quantity and quality.

[@anir2286]

Quantity over Quality is a Soviet Doctrine envisioned during World War Two. Soviet T34 and American Sherman Tanks with a heavy caliber gun was able to destroy the more advanced Tiger and Panther tanks due to sheer numbers. 5000 Tejas jets vs 200 plus J20 or F35 or F22 or F15 or Su27 or Su57 or F16 or F15 or F18. Numbers will overwhelm the technological advanced jets 4+ & 5th Gen aircraft.

[@SomeGuy-ti1ln]

Bro tank is a tank. How will tejas with 150km radar or later 200km radar take on 300-500km radar jets with 250-400km air to air missile

[@saibalbh31]

Bro how many Sherman and t34 lost to destroy one tiger or panther ? So please send your family to absorb attrition during war and skirmishes.

[@JackSordakaPVS]

During peace times, even maintenance costs need to be considered.

[@vaimurthy]

Nope, Tejas is best suited for air defense, cannot be used for offensive role with limited range and payload. With operating radius of 500km, Tejas cannot attack any place in China other than border areas which are less populated with no significant gains

[@plabonsaikia9220]

Tejas is shit....

[@souleffects_23]

Yes, number do matter. If Tejas mk2 can go to production line in 27, India should concentrate only there.

[@puggleski6097]

Tejas mk III ( if proposed ) with wingman would beat any Chinese incursion back through sheer numbers, as well as networked pack attack capability.

[@ak-rx1ui]

No doubt, the Raphael is an outstanding aircraft, but the French are price- gouging. Mass producing and continuously improving the Tejas is a viable route, if the IAF approval can be obtained. "Quantity has a quality of its own". Sooner or later we need to stand on our own two feet.

[@direwolf7491]

*Rafale

[@ak-rx1ui]

@@direwolf7491 True, (Raphael is a ninja turtle!🙂)

[@vaimurthy]

Nope, with limited range and payload Tejas cannot be used in any offensive role. 1 Rafale is equal to 3 Tejas and more

[@direwolf7491]

@@vaimurthy Ok but One Rafale accompanied by 3 Tejas is equal to 2 Rafales attacking.

[@vaimurthy]

@@direwolf7491 Dont know. Tejas combat radius is 500KM which means it cannot be used in offensive role against China.

[@Ronit_9977]

Though Tejas mk2 will be a single engine fighter unlike Rafale with double engine, still we have to focus more on MK2 as by it, we will have both numbers and technological edge. Rest requirements can be noticed by AMCA and air force have to join Navy in TEDBF for it's airforce version.

[@saibalbh31]

Please focus , your focus will ensure timely delivery of mk2 and amca as in past till then pls send your family to Frontlines .

[@Cabal294]

​@@saibalbh31even if we place an order for rafales today, it won't be delivered before 2029. We have already missed the train. It's better to utilise the funds in our own indigenous programs.

[@Ronit_9977]

@@saibalbh31 Whenever the nation will call me, I am ready to stand on border in any situation. Jai Bharat.

[@vaimurthy]

@@Cabal294 Not true, if Rafale is assembled in India, we will get it in 3 - 4 years. None of indigenous programs are going to be available before 10 years

[@Manstrong14]

​@@vaimurthy29 se pehle rafale ni milega

[@venkateshwaranps7688]

Yes very good news about India 🇮🇳 😊

[@nimeshbhatt7946]

Our Airforce struggling by NUMBERS that's why cost is no matter.

[@172bomkarpednekar2]

Bharat Mata ki Jai Jai Hind 🇮🇳

[@KrishBB]

If Su 57 is an capable and affordable fighter and can be a challenger to Chinese J 17 then its worth to aquire some of them .

[@Sumeetracer]

the fear of fifth generation is gradually fading away as the technology with time getting more enhanced in the introduction of GaN based AESA radar has brought a fundamental change in the areal warfare strategy.... we should purely focus on Tejas mk2.. and nothing else.

[@Jefe-Grande]

Isn't GaN AESA still RCS dependent? - The reason 16 countries are currently engaged in 23 5G and 6G Very Low Observable Fighters + Bombers + Drones + Missiles...

[@smurug85]

The best No Nonsense Indian defence channel ❤

[@sairampalaniappan3511]

Choice is with the defence and ministry. Please safety choose for country

[@user-km7is9yy3e]

Jai hind ❤❤❤

[@maveRickduh-rk4io]

Su 57 with tot is good offer in mrfa with right price. Rafale price is too steep.

[@SomeGuy-ti1ln]

Not MRFA but 36 su57 till AMCA arrives is a good option. S500 will be cherry on the cake

[@rohitgupta-tj5ln]

We need to think of a two front war. Quality is essential but numbers matter too. Maybe a mix of both would be better?

[@dragonpinneyum8415]

Go with mk1A....just ensure it is indegenized, including engine...

[@aschauhan9392]

Ind defence product no road map . always struggling any projects no one project done the work his time line .this very shameful for we are not make a combat uav ????

[@user-co5vh9zs4c]

We have made our UAVs... Lot of the actually.... Even deployed Swarm drones... Its only MALE and HALE class that was not properly developed and mostly because forces were not that interested in them until recently... However Rustom 2 is functional and gives good performance at cost. IAF has become more open to Rustom 2 after realising Israeli heron's don't perform so well either and American systems are just too costly to buy and operate.

[@harikumaran1981]

India must buy 36 more trafale and 36 su 57 Its boost iaf

[@user-lb8bg6kj9m]

No. Waste of money and dependence on foreign manufacturers is itself a national security risk.

[@kpsingh9810]

Successful testing ITCM is a good news 👌👌

[@MP-pr2xu]

It can be a mix of MK1A and Rafale as MK1A will 1) take time 2) not combat tested. We need potent and combat proven platform so a mix of MK1+Rafale is the way forward.

[@mbganesamoorthy7773]

Har Har Mahadev 🌹🔔🇮🇳🙏

[@amitkumarsingh4833]

Nice video

[@av3724]

For numbers India need to look at SU-75 Checkmate which is of lesser cost than Tejas with option of indian engine in future

[@user-lb8bg6kj9m]

Su57 is junk. Even Russia will not buy it.

[@vaimurthy]

why it has to be quality or quantity? Why it cannot be both? 10 squadrons of MK1A + 10 MK2 + 10 Super Sukhoi + 8 Rafale + 4 AMCA will get quantity and quality. We should try to get this number in 15 years.

[@sandeshm9600]

Indian airforce should consider buying minimum 600 units of rectangular nozzle thrust vectoring engine fighters with minimum of 250-400 Kilo Newtons of thrust.

[@ramenmukherjee6781]

Jai Hind Jai Bharat 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳👍👍

[@rakeshkumarsingh2905]

Nice🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@jaykumar_khot]

good point but how long will it take for 290 tejas to be produced? we need tejas+mrfa to reach required capability in desired timeframe.

[@HarshRaj-px9se]

If it's that big of a quantity a new manufacturing unit could be set. For Rafael, a manufacturing unit would have to be set anyway. But that's not the main issue. France has a lot of Rafael ordered and would deliver at least 5 years after signing the deal. By that time frame Tejas Mark 2 would be in it's starting phase of induction to IAF.

[@jaykumar_khot]

@@HarshRaj-px9se ​ @HarshRaj-px9se thats why i said mrfa and not rafale. Also in case of mk2 there is not way it gets orders right after development process. it will probably go through many trials by IAF separately, then bureaucratic timeline plus who knows what. so delivery starting time of mrfa and ORDER time (forget establishing factory) of mk2 wont be same. plus there is a limit to how much can we enhance our manufacturing capacity in short term. of course if we are ready to let squadron lower even beyond 2040 then yes we can forget mrfa all together.

[@francisaranha6514]

Since UAV programs have hit various obstacles, allowing for a partial foreign involvement might help with expertise.

[@mohasat01]

The Tejas fighter could possibly be capable to take on an enemy based on BVR missiles. As long as detection of enemy fighters is feasible.

[@firetree2007]

@ Jefe: some basics for you, a jet AESA radar can detect a jet 170 km away, that is for a jet with RCS 3, for larger one, like Su 30 MKI, with RCS 20, the distance much farther, over 220 km, for AWACS, it has much more powerful radar, even longer, for a B52 bomber, its RCS is 100, for C 130, its RCS is 80, the very long range A-A missile, not for jet, but for transporter or refueler or AWACS, all with RCS > 80, for an AWACS, beside its RCS, it is also a powerful source of radar wave , there is no problem for them to be detected over the range of 400 km. the original problem is not it cannot be detected or locked but no way of getting that far by an AA missile, now the things changed.

[@Jefe-Grande]

Let Jefe do the basics - you stick with lists to avoid making a fool of yourself...

[@maheshshah7570]

Actually we need a basic multi role fighter jets that is to replace the mig 21 ,for that TEJAS is more than enough

[@KAnglooBhikariMomoSabji]

Akhand Bharat Zindabad ❤

[@av3724]

Future uppgrade of aircrafts will require power gulping lasers and AI electronics warfare systems onboard ,an single engine Tejas will find it difficult to power these equipments ....

[@mehtabsingh3662]

Sometimes quality is better than quantity

[@srikanth85in]

Why would you even consider putting Rafale and Tejas on a comparison??😅

[@GhoststoriesIND]

$22bn invested in indian industry vs $25bn to french industry

[@srikanth85in]

@@GhoststoriesIND Would’ve made sense if you have the same or similar product available in house.

[@Leap6]

​@@srikanth85in there is not hell to heaven difference that you're imagining perhaps. Besides , our aviation industry will get the chance to mature finely an fintune it's errors and techniques if they're given sufficient orders. We did that mistake with marut in the past shouldn't repeat that mistake again.

[@HarshRaj-px9se]

​​​@@Leap6You are right but IMO, it should be somewhat of an upgrade of Tejas Mark1A, neither the exact same aircraft nor a complete new platform but should have constant improvements by taking more and more tech from Tejas Mark 2 Program with time since it's not like 300 Tejas Mark 1A will be made in 2-3 years, so order in batches of 90s, maybe call it Tejas Mark1B, Mark1C etc.

[@ajaydhakar7044]

​There is a huge problem with 114 rafale and it is its delivery timeline. Even if we place the order today, the delivery will start somewhere 2029 - 2030 till 2034-35 and with the same time we can have Amca mk1, Tejas mk2 but there can be a solution - shifting the production line in India and minimum 80% of transfer of technology and after completing the Indian order production line must be go on for export from India although I think Rafael already have a production house in India. ​@@srikanth85in

[@carcamp5451]

HAL Marut story should not repeat...

[@m.v.shanthi.v6702]

Greek Mirage M2K talk wouldnt have come up if MRFA Rafale was happening.

[@ajaybhaskar5052]

India needs 2 squadrons of Su57 or f35 with ToT. Rafales 112 in mrfa and 280 units of mk1a indigenously. Only then we will have respite.

[@ExploreIndia_ByRajeev]

It is highly in Indian Defence sectors interest that current Modi govt repeats with full majority again to support all indigenous efforts on sophisticated defence products and Technologies as that will free us from clutches of Russia and other foreign countries permanently; MRFA is the only big ticket foreign country defence import programme currently on otherwise in all areas mostly we are trying to built our own products and even trying to export them , Russia and France has shown their products succes in Indian wars and competition to global buyers and has leveraged them for sales.

[@krishnashah6421]

no need su 57 for india.india should fully support to make own fighter jets program in fasttrack.

[@India20504]

🇮🇳

[@ukeshkumar748]

SU 57 some of the features we can use it for AMCA

[@plabonsaikia9220]

What about eurofighter typhoon??

[@coolkal7590]

With France providing the Li-ion batteries now the P76I seems even more redundant now Just 3 enough for buying time for the DRDO AIP to be fully tested

[@Ramkumar_2308]

Heard a deafening sound in air just now like passing of a fighter jet.

[@emotionalIntelligence2078]

It is not primarily Cost of Tejas or Tech competitiveness of Rafale-- But just like a gamer needs to be in form, so does a pilot. - The operation & thereby maintenance of Tejas fighters is what suits IAF more, along with experience of Pilots. As we lag Rafale squadrons our few pilots are getting flight hours experience to engage and operate rafale.

[@ptrakoo5363]

290 is a better bang for the Dollar at 22 Billions than 114 For 25 Billions. The Tegas would be better for India than the Rafael. More jobs for Indian , less money going out, superiority in Numbers and self sufficiency. Go India!

[@krishangopall]

❤

[@burmantraveller8958]

We must buy don't know when amca will roll out how much successful it will be

[@Sacrafago90]

290 Tejas MK1A replacing for MRFA,that means Tejas in place of Rafale is absolute lunacy.

[@diconayak]

India should procure 300 Tejas MK2 instead of 290 MK1A

[@Sumeetracer]

yup that's what I was suggesting

[@subhransukar2059]

Super kalvari class submarine should be equipped with pump jet propulsion.

[@riturajsingh3402]

Govt. Should Approve collqboration with Israel which we already have and start developing a combat hale uav

[@arthurrod7638]

Option 1: Go for the Gripen with FULL ToT and call it Tejas Mark 2. After buying the Gripen, we can concentrate on the AMCA; (we're buying Rafales for the Navy anyway -- in this option, there's no designing and manufacturing of 45 TEDBF in India). Option 2: Go in for the Rafale with FULL ToT -- that's your Tejas Mark 2, TEDBF and ORCA, all rolled into one. After going in for the Rafale, we can concentrate on the AMCA. The MRFA is critical (on both, the technology front, and the number of aircraft we urgently need to induct). I think the problem is that people are thinking, "we have to manufacture Mark 1A, then Mark 2, then TEDBF/ORCA, then AMCA"... and they are getting their brains fried in the process (sensory overload 😊) See how the MRFA simplifies things? I also think that we want the Rafale, but we think it's too expensive, and that's where we're getting stuck. If you look at Option 2, you will see how many types of fighters the Rafale covers (Tejas Mark 2/ORCA and the TEDBF). Otherwise, there's always Option 1. The point is that we need one of these fighters to be inducted ALONG WITH the Tejas Mark 1A -- i.e. SIMULTANEOUSLY. Manufacturing all of the types of aircraft in India (Mark 1A, Mark 2, TEDBF/ORCA, then AMCA) is not an option -- we don't have the time. Technology is evolving by the day -- people are working on 6th generation fighter jets, and we're still on 4.5 gen. I don't know which silly "analysts" compared Tejas Mark 1A with the Rafale -- it's so silly, I won't bother addressing that, except to say that there'll be someone's son or daughter piloting those planes... think about lives also, not just money. Let me just state numbers and production times: Even if HAL can (on average) supply 24 (Tejas Mark 1A) aircraft per year, it'll take 12 years to deliver 290 aircraft -- that's 2036 😳... and there isn't even a prototype of Mark 2 flying right now... what do we do in the meantime? Fly kites with warheads attached? 😡 That whole argument (that we don't need the MRFA) is ridiculous. We need to make a decision now, and as far as I am concerned, there are only 2 options: approx 12 billion for the Gripens, or twice of that for the Rafales. The MRFA (with full ToT) will let us leapfrog ahead technologically, and enable us to focus, and put all our energy into the development of the AMCA. Then we'll be in the race; otherwise, we're running yesterday's race. PS I'm not a part of any import lobby -- I'm just looking at the situation and offering a solution. Actually, I too was grappling with the problem -- when you look at the wish-list (Mark 1A, Mark 2, TEDBF, ORCA, AMCA...), it gets intimidating... and then I realised that the MRFA helps us leapfrog many layers, and propells us straight into developing the AMCA.

[@vaimurthy]

Great analysis

[@arthurrod7638]

@@vaimurthy thanks 😊 I've been thinking about this for a long, long time 😊

[@user-lb8bg6kj9m]

Waste of money And the country falls further behind in R&D funding foreign R&D products.

[@arthurrod7638]

@@user-lb8bg6kj9m Do you know what ToT is? 🤔 It means, 'Transfer of Technology'. So, that means, we get the fighters, and the stuff that makes them lethal -- the technology. It's like buying your R&D just once. Then, it's a level playing field. And then you go all out for AMCA.

[@coolkal7590]

ITCM finally maturing Leaving the stealthy air-launched one to the pvt sector will again be waiting for Godot, like in the case of the now mythical long range Pinaka 😄DRDO & DPSUs should take it up ASAP Pvt sector can be roped in for the non critical components later

[@andreasadler5188]

INDIA should get the upgraded version of Eurofighter for MRFA. Eurofighter is a superior to all other competitors and if the price and make in India issues get ironed out then this will give India edge over the 2 hostile neighbours

[@itz_me_kratos]

We neither need Rafale, nor Tejas we need tedbf

[@saibalbh31]

Build it then .

[@manisherande4568]

we get low quality obosolete underdeveloped aircraft with american engines and british systems

[@Sumeetracer]

iska aur dimag kharab comment nikla bhai TEDBF ready hote hote 2040 lag jaye ga

[@ASShukla-fh5gf]

I think India should buy Su 57 felon bcoz if it's not a true 5 th gen.fighter but at least it's much better than all 4.5 gen fighter in mrfa like Rafale ,Euro fighter ,F 15 and also it's much more economic in price as compare to mrfa's current fighter ,and looking to chineese conflict it should be consider ,

[@SomeGuy-ti1ln]

Perfectly well put

[@vaimurthy]

We dont know that. Stealth of Su 57 is questionable and usually russian jets are high maintenance low availability. EW capabilities of Russian jets are also poor. Rafale is better bet.

[@Jefe-Grande]

5G Fighters don't have 4G Radar + 4G Engines + 4G RCS + 4G Weapons....

[@SomeGuy-ti1ln]

@@vaimurthy EW is poor? I guess west still trying to make any passive EW suite like russia and US still rely on active EW suite. LOL

[@vaimurthy]

@@SomeGuy-ti1ln Is that why Russia is struggling to make AESA radar which West mastered 20 years ago?

[@user-uo5lb5pg3v]

Su57 it's a game . Beware India .

[@Cabal294]

Lobbyists are trying hard ....

[@thenagasaga963]

2 squadron of F35 would be best for the current situation.

[@adithyabhat2508]

It's not about Plane, it's all about the pilot.

[@dhirenpunjabi9167]

Quantity over quality would mean that we are ready to sacrifice our armed forces as expendables. Countries are working on new tech that can destroy multiple targets from a single equipment like high power lasers and here we are debating the old quantity over quality strategy, instead of improving our tech. Pilots flying tejas will be humans and not zombies or machines. If we can make fighters as good as Rafales and deliver them around the time Rafales will be delivered, then go for indigenous fighters, else go for Rafales (assuming no issues caused by Dassault in future)

[@balventray]

Accelerate tehal mk2 it's more capable and get more in the same time frame rather than any foreign aircraft. F16 is good but our enemies have them also which make friend & foe ID difficulty.

[@user-bo7qe5cz1z]

58 Rafael for 13 billion dollars 💲 150 Tejas mk1a for 12 billion 💲dollars

[@devenderkaparthi6525]

36 su 57 required on priority basis.amca take sum time and trails and inducting amca into air force take time so v had head china to beat it off

[@rajendrapatil1147]

As far as Jets are concerned IAF should add battle tested SU 30 at least by adding 5 squadrons without any time wasted over unfair climate howering different Tejas models and MRFA scrapped programs. By delaying to add 5 squadrons you are making life difficult to require basic squadrons to get operated.

[@mrinalkishore6061]

Indian air force should acquire 1821 TEJAS AND ITS OTHER VARIENT AND 175 AMCA

[@joshuacherian6718]

India's decision to withdraw from the FGFA program, a joint effort with Russia to develop a 5th-generation fighter jet based on the Su-57, was largely driven by disagreements over technology transfer, cost-sharing, and the overall design of the aircraft.

[@riturajsingh3402]

If you wanna cancel MRFA make Tejas Mk2 asap and with nigh 5th generation systems, and able to carry large number of heavy weaponry.

[@maheshshah7570]

We need more TEJAS than Rafale

[@Robdua1968]

When you need it 2030

[@lakshaybansal8266]

Su 57 is immediate requirement till 2035

[@suuu1402]

Tejas mk1a is a limited capable fighter jet but much better than JF17

[@user-co5vh9zs4c]

Tejas MK1A is a very good aircraft. It has very low RCS because of size, use of composites, radar absorbent paint, Y-ducted intakes. It has quadruple redudandant fly-by-wire which makes it much easier for pilots to operate. From talking to a pilot friend in IAF I learned that Mirage 2000 pilots who were transfered to Tejas squadron say Tejas is better. Tejas only drawbacks is range and payload. However, It has sufficient range to engage any target in Pakistan. Inside China, using buddy refuelling with Su-30 MKI Tejas can be used as a deep strike aircraft. Combining Tejas with CATS warrior system would make it an even more potent system.

[@saibalbh31]

Please ensure that tejas mk1a faces jf 17 not f 16 or j 10 then

[@user-co5vh9zs4c]

@@saibalbh31 Tejas is a much better aircraft in air to air engagement than both F-16 and J-10. It may be difficult for some to accept the idea that Indian products have good quality but here are the facts. F-16 is an old aircraft designed in the mid 1960s. It took its first flight in 1974. Tejas has smaller RCS than F-16 because of smaller size, radar absorbent paint, extensive use of composites, Y-ducted engine inlet. The addition of the new Indian GaN Advanced Self Protection Jammer pod will make Tejas extremely hard to detect. PAF F-16s are equipped with some 30 year old PESA radars whereas Indian Tejas use more advanced Radars but soon will have ELTA 2052 AESA Radars and later the Uttam AESA. As for J-10, it is such a great aircraft that since being inducted in 2005, in 20 years, China has been unable to sell it to even single country. Only reason Pakistan has brought J-10 is because of lack of choice and cost factor. J-10 lacks stealth features, it's doesn't have low RCS and will be easily detected by Tejas and engaged using Astra MKI, MK2 etc.

[@user-co5vh9zs4c]

@@saibalbh31 Tejas is a much better aircraft in air to air engagement than both F-16 and J-10. F-16 is an old aircraft designed in the mid 1960s. It took its first flight in 1974. Tejas has smaller RCS than F-16 because of smaller size, radar absorbent paint, extensive use of composites, Y-ducted engine inlet. The addition of the new Indian GaN Advanced Self Protection Jammer pod will make Tejas extremely hard to detect. PAF F-16s are equipped with some 30 year old PESA radars whereas Indian Tejas use more advanced Radars but soon will have ELTA 2052 AESA Radars and later the Uttam AESA. As for J-10, it is such a great aircraft that since being inducted in 2005, in 20 years, China has been unable to sell it to even single country. Only reason Pakistan has brought J-10 is because of lack of choice and cost factor. J-10 lacks stealth features, it's doesn't have low RCS and will be easily detected by Tejas and engaged using Astra MKI, MK2 etc.

[@user-co5vh9zs4c]

@@saibalbh31 Tejas is a much better aircraft in air to air engagement than both F-16 and J-10. F-16 is an old aircraft designed in the mid 1960s. It took its first flight in 1974. Tejas has smaller RCS than F-16 because of smaller size, radar absorbent paint, extensive use of composites, Y-ducted engine inlet. The addition of the new Indian GaN Advanced Self Protection Jammer pod will make Tejas extremely hard to detect. PAF F-16s are equipped with some 30 year old PESA radars whereas Indian Tejas use more advanced Radars but soon will have ELTA 2052 AESA Radars and later the Uttam AESA. As for J-10, since being inducted in 2005, in 20 years, it has had no buyers. Only reason Pakistan has brought J-10 is because of lack of choice and cost factor. J-10 lacks stealth features, it's doesn't have low RCS and will be easily detected by Tejas and engaged using Astra MKI, MK2 etc.

[@aguntukbhut1795]

SU-75 might be a better and cost effective option rather than bulkier SU-57, It’s combination with AMCA may serve as a duet for IAF in coming days

[@Sumeetracer]

SU 75 is't even ready brother its only in papers and we don't know its progress so far

[@aguntukbhut1795]

@@Sumeetracer Even Tejas MK2 or AMCA needs 4/5 for production, buy that tat SU-75 will be globally rolled out for testing

[@user-lb8bg6kj9m]

Su75 is junk. Even Russia will not buy it.

[@trijalinamdar5396]

Both 290 tejas Mk1a and 114 Rafales could do the job 👍🏻

[@MoaimchenImchen]

😊❤

[@Sumeetracer]

paisa tera ghar se ayega ??

[@defence3355]

Who will give money ? India doesn't have a large defence budget like china usa.

[@gauravtripathi2643]

What kind of analysts would compare Tejas MK 1A with a Rafale? Will anyone tell the army to buy T72s in place of T90s? Or the Navy to buy corvettes in place of frigates or destroyers? These aren't large tomatoes vs small tomatoes. But high tech platforms, with a very wide margin of performance difference between the two!

[@aniruddhamondal9185]

Upgrade Sukhoi and go for TEDBF+AMCA

[@HarryMaraj-go4ui]

India 🇮🇳 should buy the Tejas, more aircraft 4 less money, and the money will help the economy more and save tax payers, it will help develop the industry by influence of more pride in the industry.

[@manisherande4568]

we get low quality obosolete underdeveloped aircraft with american engines and british systems that too in 2090 ....

[@user-lb8bg6kj9m]

​@@manisherande4568 Low quality underdeveloped is what most foreign products are. They are sold on marketing hype more so than capability.

[@krishanpathak4989]

Tejas mk1a, mk2 and AMCA is way forward.

[@pratikpal5565]

Private companies are disappointing us when it comes to taking the lead in the cutting edge technologies, they want to provide a back door to foreign powers in our strategic affairs while making money off that same endeavour

[@SomeGuy-ti1ln]

Zero hard work and easy money is another definition of our private industry

[@user-lb8bg6kj9m]

They do not see the IAF ordering domestically produced products in large numbers, hence their reluctance to invest in R&D. This they become a back door for foreign arms manufacturers and nothing more.

[@abhiksarkar3829]

❤❤No need su57,just keep focus on rapid development of AMCA,why Russia is wasting time promoting 5 th generation fighter jet su 57

[@saramclain9877]

I would like 90 more rafale ,and maybe 50 f 15 ex to patrol india, and china loc .su 30 mki is great aircraft the f 15 ex is heavy armed and force to be reckon with lol that just my opinion but I believe 5 more squardern of rafale and 3 squardern of f 15 ex I think it would blooster the Indian airforce big time

[@ProudSanatani0007]

If airforce would have gone with ORCA then it could have got Fighter jets similar to Rafael in a large number....

[@souravchoubey2043]

Indian government should also make nuclear capable fighter like B1 Lancer or White Swan …

[@savinirs998]

India should take tot of engine from us and should produce more teajs per year

[@swetangsharma]

All major private players are only interested in making a quick buck via import-and-rebrand. Govt needs to fund new startups (like Anduril in US) for defence R&D.

[@Vartik-tq1du]

Tejas mk1a is an excellent light jet but comparing it to double engine jet lke rafale with double range, double payload is funny

[@Ronit_9977]

Still 25 billion dollar is a huge price, in the same time frame, we can get mk2 (I know it's single engine fighter) in more number.

[@vaimurthy]

@@Ronit_9977 This is what haunting our country. Always look for cheap, not value. Tejas cannot be used against China in offensive role due to limited combat radius whereas Rafale can be used.

[@Ronit_9977]

@@vaimurthy Guess what, condition is like either Rafael will be purchased or rest of fighter programs will run. This programs also includes AMCA, want to sacrifice or delay AMCA for Rafael?? And I am talking about MK2 not MK1 or 1a.

[@braddbradd5671]

Indian should promote the mark2 Tejas with the two small winglets up the front to sell ,and NOT the mark 1 as it doesn't look like any one is really serious about buying the dated looking mark 1 not even Nigeria countries with a small budget are not interested ..We might even have to sell the Mark 2 at cost and get money some other way but until the first country buys Tejas its all just talk

[@KIsaac-wp5dq]

I think going with tejas would be a blunder for this scenario. Because the capability of Rafale jets are deadliest in all combats . Even bunch of Tejas mk1a or mk2 cant compete a single rafale in real situation. I believe Indian Air Force dont do this mistake.