Indian DID NOT want me to Make this Video

[@shadetreesurgeon]

Grab limited edition Shadetree Army merch here! www.brapstar.com/

[@Leroyglidden80]

You took ftr home

[@knightwolfe858]

never mind the merch, where can i buy the weed youre partnered with? i might like some dabs too

[@jmoore8406]

Pardons if I'm late to the party but is the website down right now? Nothing shows up when I click on patches section

[@RidingintheOzarks]

Congrats on the new bike! Life’s been busy on my end, but a dose of shade tree was exactly what I needed for a pick me up today, keep doing you brother!

[@rabbidbabies4094]

I got a Triumph and an Indian in my garage. It’s beautiful, life is good.

[@rickosborne6521]

I've been a long time HD fan, and do still own a 2016 ultra, but once I rode an FTR I had to have it. Absolutely loved that bike, though my lower back didn't, so I traded it in on a Challenger and that thing is my favorite all-around bike ever. Indian is making great bikes, for those willing to look past their brand loyalty. And MAN do I miss my FTR. I'll own another one some day, in addition to my Challenger that isn't gonna go anywhere.

[@bikerboot888]

With HD dealers closing , this is refreshing to see !!!

[@Wilczewskimauricio]

Nice, about time a solid Shop to sell Triumph bikes.👏👏👏 Bert, man of vision, a man with beautiful soul.

[@sdmascar8905]

the indian ftr was probably the best bike they built. cant believe it is being discontinued.

[@Anton_G_604]

Agreed. I used to own a 2022 model, when they redid it with the 17” wheels, but it had a few issues. The tank was way too small and it was terrible at low rpms. But, as crazy aa it sounds, it didn’t any aftermarket parts besides tuning. The bike is pretty much perfect in terms of design. It looks better than a Ducati IMO. I’m sad to see it go and hope it does become a cult classic of American bikes.

[@zeo_here]

Wait what? It's being discontinued?!

[@coyote4936]

Polaris sport bike

[@sdmascar8905]

@@zeo_here yes

[@super16g123]

Crazy. It looked amazing. It won races. I was looking forward to seeing the second gen.

[@bigb7157]

My 2023 Springfield is the best big bike I’ve ever owned. It’s just good at everything and looks great.

[@DonMachado]

It I wasn't so in love with the Chief Bobber Darkhorse, I would be looking hard at the Springfield. The only downside is that's the only bike in the lineup that you can't get with Ride Command. I keep hoping that will change when the new bikes come out each year.

[@ThatBobGuy850]

Josh, you're absolutely right that most dealers just want to sell you a **new** motorcycle and then kick you out the door as you said. So we salute Bert for creating a place where riders can go and hang out **after** the purchase. Great idea! Let's hope it works out for him. With respect to customization... Back in the '60s and '70s there wasn't the huge aftermarket for motorcycle parts. And so people had to, as you say, design and build their own customized parts. That's changed, of course, and now you can buy any sort of "RTL - LTR" geegaw or doodad and install it (or have it installed). We've gotten to a point where "customization" really means "personalization." Is that a bad thingi? I don't think so. Go to any Harley hangout or bike night, and you won't see two Harleys that are exactly the same. And that's a big part of the attraction of owning a Harley. There are parts from the 1958 Sportster that will bolt right on a final-year model (I'm thinking specifically of the handlebar riser clamp). No manufacturers have that kind of continuity and interchangeability of parts. Not only that, they don't want to put the time in to let their models "age," so to speak. Witness Indian ditching the FTR already. And that's why people will continue to buy Harleys when Indian is long dead and gone. Great video! Can't wait to see what you brought home this time ;-)

[@charlesbozonier5713]

You look good. I am glad you made the changes you made. Happy for you.

[@MrHemirox1]

Being from Fort Myers I for one am thrilled Bert is here for Indian Trumiph and Harley, Fort Myers desperately needs this. Stay away from Rockstar, they are crooks, Bert is the man!

[@michaelschmitzerle2587]

Love those American made Indian motorcycles❣️ They just keep getting better and better👍

[@Brn30826]

BOOM! Nailed the custom argument!

[@Oriole21]

You're riding home the Triumph Rocket 3

[@randymarks4011]

That's my guess also.

[@Elthenar]

@@randymarks4011 Man, I want a Rocket 3. I haven't seriously ridden a bike since the 90's though, so that's probably not the best idea lol.

[@bigfootgarage2201]

He has a rocket three so hopefully he can take it to Bert’s Black Pearl and get it fixed

[@bradleyyounger8499]

He already owns one

[@cl2eep_rides]

@@Elthenar Absolutely love my Rocket III!

[@ludwigvonbuzzthoven]

I generally like Indian. I recently sold a '23 Scout Bobber only because I just moved and my new garage only had enough room for my car and one bike (which is a '21 Sportser 48 and is my forever bike). My only issues with the Scout were fit and finish. Indian paint and clear coat quality SUCKS. My local dealer purposely keeps the lights in the showroom low so you can't see all the micro scratches in the finish. I learned this a little too late: when I went to see the Scout in person, I couldn't see all the fine lines in the finish. It was a really overcast day, so I didn't notice the finish flaws until several days later when the bike was in the sun for the first time. There were also a bunch of other tiny things, like one of the foot pegs wouldn't stay folded up. But other than that, it was a solid bike, it was fun to ride, and I really liked the styling on it. Sadly, I don't like the new generation of Scouts, so the chances of me owning another one is almost zero. I'd consider a Chief Bobber, but it's just way too expensive for what you actually get on the bike.

[@rubo1964]

This plus new Scout owners complaining forever it takes the dash to load etc.Seriously weird you pay 15k for a bike then wait 3min for it to load up to ride.Was Indian being cheap using older chip?

[@RAVEN-xn9id]

I was in Florida for work recently and happened to end up in a hotel in Ybor city. You have some cool stomping grounds man. Checked out Bert's and ate at the roadhouse. Bert's was most definitely welcoming. Genuinely felt like they enjoyed people hanging out. Didn't seem sales based. Also wondered around Ybor. Dirty shame was closed but cool to see. Only knew of these places because of you man keep doin what you do.

[@shadetreesurgeon]

Bummer the shame was closed man! Hopefully next time ya come we’re open

[@JohnnyAKLove]

Dude i love the used bike vids. I just wish i lived closer so i could browse myself.

[@ykmalachi]

I have that Bobber Darkhorse version. Lots of low end grunt. I used my 3D printer and made a custom 1 off MOTORHEAD snaggletooth derby cover.

[@shadetreesurgeon]

Dude HELL yeah!

[@bradleyyounger8499]

The FTR is the only Indian still made that i would own.. the other was the chief vintage that they discontinued

[@Thebonesoftrees]

Don’t care what the bike is , just happy you got a new one. You deserve it.

[@MickOTooleroadglide]

Love it when you go to Berts, & keep spreading the good words off motorcycles community . Sad the Buccaneers couldn’t bring it home against Washington

[@douglewis3182]

I've never walked in a dealership and saw a bike and said I love that bike just like it is. Every bike out there needs a little customizing

[@feloniousmonk3049]

Ironic, I never felt my BMW R1250 Rt needed anything more than crash guards and a Russell Day Long customized touring seat on the original seat pan, for long days on the bike, touring.

[@MightyMouzMoto]

I visited that location before Bert bought it and before I visited Bert's Barracuda locating. Pretty cool.

[@jackfry9123]

THE BIKE LOOKS LIKE A MOVIE STAR!!! I am entertained Shade. :)

[@GeFeldz]

The Buell 1125R and CR are awesome bikes as well.

[@yoshit9819]

I'm on my second Springfield. First one was a 16. Only reason I traded to a 23 is because of the killer deal I got. By the way my 16 had 70k miles on it and still running like a beast.

[@methamphetasaur]

I think the Buell XB-S is the best looking naked bike ever, but that FTR is also a truly beautiful bike.

[@markchalloner5883]

I loved my FTR, it was a blast to ride! Lots of torque from that big ol motor. I put over 21k miles on it. Sad to see them discontinued, but the naked sport bike segment is flooded with too nany lighter, faster, and cheaper alternatives. They can be picked up used for a huge discount on what they went for new.

[@BrandonBicasso]

I’m 100% judging you for judging me for owning an Indian. 😂

[@shadetreesurgeon]

Does that mean it cancels out? 😂

[@happyness5293]

Uh oh... cancel culture..

[@jozzy2020]

I love my Indian Challenger. And I would love a sport chief!

[@David-og7di]

I really liked the video you made that sent up the daft Triumph video with 2 dudes on matching bikes, cats, and off to a warehouse party.

[@CycleMycl]

I’m glad I have the best looking FTR (IMO). Got a tail tidy, a Toce, and a tune and it’s an animal. I doubt I’ll ever get rid of it as there’s nothing out there like it unless it’s a Ducati Streetfighter but it’s missing that neo-retro look I love. Only way I’m ditching it is if HD or the company that makes the Pan-Am Urban Warrior makes a bolt on kit

[@justin.s9783]

Cool that Bert opened another dealership and something different. As for what you took home, no telling lol. Good vid

[@motorcyclemichael2182]

Please ride the Rocket 3, Challenger and/or Pursuit, Speed Twin, and Tiger 1200 Gt Explorer. Ive been seriously looking at the Triumph and Indian motorcycles for my next bike 🏍️ or two 😊

[@brandonmacon3317]

There is no other owner like Bert. His shops are definitely one of a kind. Never been to Black widow but I've been to a bunch of others... With a bunch of uppity tight wads.

[@six-pack1332]

Let Bert know if he has an extra Triumph Bonneville Bobber that he needs to give away... I'm here to take it off his hands. Always willing to help out.

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

I'm not a Harley fan, subsequently I'm also not an Indian fan. But I do like that sportster and I do like this thing in comparison to the rest of the lineup.

[@kristenacosta2911]

@2:36 I had my new to me bike delivered to my local HD shop so they could look it over. When I took her home after some minor work, the said " welcome to the family" referring to being a Harley owner. Mind you, I didn't buy my bike from them. 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@super16g123]

Wow ...no more ftr? That was one of the coolest bikes to come out of America recently.

[@paulcolburn1208]

That outtro song is nostalgic gold for Gi Joe fans!

[@michaelrizzo5492]

I love the Twisted Fork.

[@davidboydarnott417]

I'm guessing the Indian Bobber is built for longevity, you can jump on it as it is and do Coast - Coast, or Florida to Portland several times.

[@carterhart5435]

My guess is a mid 80's Goldwing from the used pile with a $400 price tag. Not much love for Indian tbh, after Polaris buried the Victory brand I'll only buy and own bikes with parts readily available. I've owned several Buell's where the only things that broke were the parts that were unobtanium, spent more time trying to track down parts than riding.

[@MCmotoUSA]

Polaris…discontinuing a cool bike? Noooo they’d never 😂

[@shadetreesurgeon]

LMAO where’s the lie

[@MCmotoUSA]

@@shadetreesurgeon Victory owners everywhere having PTSD hearing that lol

[@tedsmart5539]

@@MCmotoUSA Yea - but Victory sucked donkey balls.

[@MiketheNerdRanger]

Well money talks, I guess. Indian made something really cool, and it seems like not enough people wanted it

[@majordannan2828]

I live in Scotland, the only Indian dealership in the country shut down 6 months ago. Luckily, i got my scout, love it and will never part with it! Prolly go to the Harley dealership in the summer to test ride some Harleys

[@christopherw4527]

My favorite type of episode nest to ran when parked. Love it.

[@ItIsWhatItIsTV-]

You aren't fooling anybody..we all know its that Triumph Rocket 3. Shoutout from westmonroe la.

[@foreigncorrespondent5140]

I just realized, electric-Harleys have the least ugly exhaust systems.

[@viperq]

Mind blown.

[@juliancrooks3031]

The ftr looks like a bike black widow would ride in an avengers movie

[@jocoloco1320]

That was a Harley livewire

[@glenmclendon9209]

It's like an automobile . It's not a fighter jet . Only easier to make it yours .

[@railroad7401]

You should try the Roadmaster, finest bagger I've ever owned. Not as cool as my 49 Pan which you complimented me on at Showtown bar, but that Indian is a perfect long haul bike.

[@daveco1270]

You should be an official Bert's Ambassador. Seems like you kind of are. Most of the dealerships I've been to seemed very wary about letting me test ride some bikes. Berts seems to encourage testing out as many bikes as you want.

[@shadetreesurgeon]

Bert plays it fast and loose! My kinda guy

[@darkgravystains]

Usually I don't mind living with my ankles suspended from the ground in Australia, but our dealerships are weak as piss compared to what you guys have.

[@jeanlawson9133]

We should all start praying now that Indian and Triumph doesn't go down 👇👎 the same Rabbit hole 🕳️⛳.....

[@ejdtm]

FTR-many loved it, few bought it.

[@rob3568]

This

[@BilgeShakespier]

Yep. I test rode a 2019, and it was a hoot. But too batshit for daily life. I went with a Scrambler 1200XC.

[@Ridingfish]

RIP 🙏 FTR 😢

[@pcontiman]

We are NOT tired of it! "The Royal We" 😂

[@ninji5226]

I really dig the FTR for the same reason you did, something soorty from America. Problem is the price, HD and Indian are "premium" brands with matching prices and its hard to justify when there are ton of ither option in this class for way less. Im about to buy a 24 Z900 for $8500, in the same class? not really, but its half price so doesnt need to be. Guess thats going to spook HD on any hope of the Bronx ever coming out.

[@Win7ermu7e]

Indian is absolutely dumping the FTR right now, 2500 from the manufacturer and 2500 from the dealer. The value sure as hell is not going up any time soon on a used one.

[@mgsboedmisodpc2]

Three Fishermen Seafood Restaurant shaddy must try when travelling back north to have a grouper sandwich

[@MeLikesPie]

Triumph Bobber is my next purchase love that thing !!

[@davidleatherwood6228]

Seeing as they're killing the FTR and since they killed the entire Victory line to focus on the FTR (which I thought was a bad move on Polaris' part), perhaps they should replace the FTR by revitalizing the Victory line.

[@deangelisstudio1]

@@1020donny exactly 💥 100%

[@davidleatherwood6228]

@@1020donny that's the 750. The 1200 is being discontinued because of tightening Euro-5+ regulations that the FTR 1200 can't meet without totally redesigning the engine.

[@coyote4936]

They should just keep the ftr as a Polaris branded sport bike

[@davidleatherwood6228]

@@coyote4936 here's the problem with doing that, though: the bike didn't sell well enough to justify the engine redesign keeping it would require. It just didn't make the company enough money overall.

[@coyote4936]

@ I didn’t know it needed an engine redesign

[@josephwatts7039]

I have a base model Indian challenger, I think dollar for dollar it’s the best American Made Bagger on the market, performance and handling is great. Btw Josh you like great man, you’re really slimming down great job! 🎉

[@richmccullough]

Always wanted an FTR. Maybe one day… The price tag was just a bit on the high side for me. Now that they are discontinuing it I may have to bite the bullet.

[@deangelisstudio1]

Look on the used market, I just bought one for $8700 that had 7 miles on it. It was a 2023FTR sport.

[@a456987]

Indian was dominating flat track racing and now the rules have changed and they can no longer use the FTR

[@frankfurther3828]

Did the scums at HD have something to do with the changes?

[@1YouTube_you]

Let’s be real! Harley gets a hefty handy cap when it comes to racing. Indian races a 109 cui and Harley gets to race a 131 cui or some shit against it. lol Harley can’t race cubic inches vs cubic inches against Indian

[@Dynachop420]

@@1KZbin_youactually Harley definitely could compete but Indians thunderstroke is such a joke it can’t compete with a he m8 so they use a completely different class of v twin dohc against a pushrod m8

[@Dipndots87-ms6ds]

Air cooled vs liquid cooling. Figure out the differences and why air cooled engines don’t make as much power and lose power as it heats up. There’s your answer.

[@1YouTube_you]

@@Dipndots87-ms6ds oh I know the answer! Why do you think I made the comment I did? Harley can’t compete apples to apples

[@JBTexas]

Funny how I just made a comment on walking talks video and then your video pops up! Honestly, the reason your not invited is because your not in their pocket. Your channel influence as an unbiased review. Like you said, unfinished bike and there’s a difference in customization. Some of these other channels influence the manufacturer to push something simply because their channel is blooming. Then when that happens, hmmmm why is the bike sitting n the floor for so long. And to make matters worst, those Channels themselves don’t even buy their top dollar bikes they are pushing: they buy the low end model. Hmmmmmmm But nice video, keep being you and who cares if these manufacturers don’t call you. Your being you and staying true to what your about. Don’t sell out like other channels. Ride safe and god bless!

[@rob3568]

The FTR dying about the same time as the Sportster says all you need to hear about Harley VS Indian.

[@tld522]

Be no living with buck brown now!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂 Love you buck!!!!!

[@jeremythegrey]

I work right down from the boys a sawicki in Denver nc 🤙

[@specialse]

Good video , and the sportster C riser and bar change is a nightmare .... been there ,,,,

[@larryfromwisconsin9970]

I liked Victory motorcycles so I should like Indian. We!!, I wish they still made Victory. Could have been a discount American brand. Ride on, Josh.

[@bonnevillebagger9147]

As a Vision owner. I’d prefer if they used victory for modern designs like the scout or challenger, then use Indian for their neo classical fringe stuff.

[@duane5326]

I don’t know about Indian but hard to go to these Harley get togethers when they don’t support your older Harley at ALL (parts/maintenance)

[@petemuddafuggincarvo9284]

2:20 That's the kind of place where would I want to work. That's what the dealership used to be like here before the original owner retired.

[@jasonchicoine4282]

i have an aniversary roadking with bat fairing and all the custom shtick, but if i had the cash id get a t120

[@PDYALL]

Yea the FTR is a beautiful bike I’d love to own just priced a bit to high for my blood

[@coyote4936]

There is either customized or hot rodded

[@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369]

HOWdy S-T-S ... Josh, ... Thanks COOP ...

[@dasko3]

I think Polaris killed the FTR750 race bikes, but the FTR1200 isn't going anywhere...yet

[@stk0308]

They didn't exactly do it themselves. American Flat Track finally did what they told Indian they were going to do, and went to a rules package that was entirely production only. The FTR, like the XR750 and RS750, is a race only motor. It is now no longer valid for racing in the AFT Pro class.

[@Pw.papa.7]

Okay you're in a Indian Tramp motorcycle dealership ride Harleys and you have a Honda hat on that's freaking hilarious😂😂😂😂😂

[@109rfan1]

maybe the other had the dirt wheels. ftr’s are fun

[@mar0364]

I like stock HD bikes. They are soooo hard to find on the used market.

[@heretic134]

The ftr looks like a naked bike which i dont care for if they had a option with fairings i may have been more interested and the othe thing is they do need more aftermarket in regards to performance would help

[@zeo_here]

Freaking awesome Bert!!!!

[@775summit2]

Bike is awesome if I was 20 years younger that's what I'd have. Maybe I'll buy it for my 14-year-old in a few years

[@nicholascriss876]

I hope it's that new Triumph dirt bike

[@David-yp4fl]

🌿 that is amazing 🌿 BERT IS MY HERO 🇺🇲♥️🇺🇲

[@SleekHobbies88]

Im definitely keeping my ftr its awesome bike. Definitely turns heads

[@savagewalker1able]

Nah no way they discontinuing the ftr. Although they are discontinuing their participation in the flat track races

[@homegrownson]

Some people love seeing stock at Berts, those looking for a Ride or new ride enjoy window shopping. Keep on doing You and dont worry about the haters, if I was not retired as a sales person I would be Doing weekly if not daily Dealership Videos on KZbin to Market Bert's Stock, to let people know of Berts events and Special and More, Share that with Bert and No I ain't coming out of retirement

[@DJPTEXAS]

Do you still have your Triumph Rocket 3 ?

[@GeorgiaGrowGuy]

Natalie Mars rides a FTR

[@bigfootgarage2201]

Maybe you can finally get the white rocket three fixed now that your main man Bert has the Black Pearl opened I’d love to see it back on the road

[@knightwolfe858]

My bet is that Josh takes home the FTR he was just on in this video. note his comment that it would probably go up in value since they arent going to make them anymore

[@rickman2267]

Your taking home a Triumph Speed Triple? 😊

[@kashanimous1711]

Those mirrors on the FTR are a war crime.

[@shanerogers7198]

Too easy, the Rocket 3. No way you’re leaving a motorcycle with a 2.5L engine there.

[@billyrthomson]

Well, I’m pretty sure it’s the dresser because shade tree likes them a little bit on the trashy side

[@supastihl89]

The problem with the ftr is the same as the vrod. Its a great bike but those who want it camt grasp it

[@ara7450]

the google AI answer says they're discontinuing the FTR because of some new racing (AFT) regulations. Anyone know about this or care to go more into depth about that?

[@six.....]

The ftr is the type of bike everyone wants to see built but will never buy. Just like the fabled Harley Bronx if they make it it's doomed to fail.