Indian FTR sound [RAW Onboard]

[@divyang.z]

Really happy to see FTR in your hands ! As always great video ❤👏

[@Schaaf]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@KyleCanessa]

I have the 2023 Base Model -Love it!! Power on tap and smiles per gallon

[@flip297]

Owned one for just other a year, my first "big bike" here in the UK. 2020 Carbon model with a decat. Its insanely loud and I always get people coming up and asking about it and normally in new ride out i get told "the exhaust sounds amazing and it looks so special" i guess this thing isn't about massive power hungry fans and more just for the ride and looks. I will look at changing it next year when the insurance comes down mainly because ive owned two bikes so i just want to try more options thats the only reason to sell it. Not because i'm unhappy with it. Just ticked over 10,000 miles and 7500 of them are mine

[@Schaaf]

Nice!

[@dIsAstErTR]

I think it's about time you did top 10 videos Schaaf. You ride quite a lot of different bikes.

[@Schaaf]

Not a bad idea!

[@hzum2724]

​@@SchaafPlease do it! Susbcribed since the gsx s750 video.

[@ItIsMyRide]

Disclaimer: I haven't watched the whole video yet, so even if I sound like biased by your opinion - trust me, I'm not :) I thought I'll never want such a bike, until my friend got one. I'd love to have this Indian as my second bike. I'd call it "Moodmaker".

[@Schaaf]

It definitely has its own appeal!! Not to me though, I guess :D :D

[@redrum5.0_]

this bike looks and sounds amazing but i can’t help but think about the mt10 being way more bike for around the same price

[@Schaaf]

Exactly

[@atp1130]

Yeah it’s about aesthetics I think

[@-ihad2clipem-429]

That's not a comparison. Mt10 is a different category. People know this yet still bring it up. Mt09 is more the same spec as the FTR. No one uses either one of those bikes in racing. They have no proven record.

[@redrum5.0_]

i don’t need to see them in club racing to know a bike that’s 70 lbs lighter with better suspension, brakes and frame with 40 more hp is a higher performer and the price is almost exactly the same, the ftr is only $500 less than an mt10

[@-ihad2clipem-429]

@@redrum5.0_ That's where you'll be disappointed if that bike was in club racing. There's a reason why it's not used. The handling sucks on mt10/mt09. Those are for street glory. You put a quick shift on a FTR it will out drag a mt10 to 100mph. After that the mt10 has the advantage. It's geared differently.

[@Roll_with_R.C.]

This is the bike that will get me in trouble! Rode it in Daytona and would love to see this as a cafe racer. Reminds me of the Thruxton RS. It made me question if I still had the reflex control I needed, what a ride it was! Love these videos, that exhaust note is intoxicating!

[@irfannaqiuddin5598]

Man your lean makes me scared and impressed at the same time!🔥 You really lean all the way bro😱

[@Schaaf]

Thanks

[@randallobrien1812]

I have a 22 black smoke it's pretty sweet. Can't wait till I can tune and pipe it though

[@samraeburn9341]

If you haven't already seen it FortNine made an interesting video based around the FTR 1200s model in their most beautiful motorcycle video, and there was a reference to the FTR at the end of their How Indian Makes 43% More Power video. I think those give me a bit of a positive perspective on the idea for the bike even if the practical riding experience isn't great. Both are great videos anyway and are well worth a watch.

[@Neketre]

Zach did a great review of the FTR on Daily Rider as well.

[@Schaaf]

Thanks, I know the video but it doesn't make the FTR any better compared to almost all other naked bikes out there

[@Jipjip11]

I had a 2019 FTR. Loved it. Sure it had flaws, but it was a riot. Rented a new XSR 900 in Seattle and it was insanely fun too, sure, but lacked that aggressive feeling the FTR had. Can’t speak as to how an MT-10 would feel, but I love the way FTRs make power. Not super fast bikes, pegged mine at 148, but they get to 100 stupidly fast.

[@wjazdnakana779]

I Love Your films Shaaf but can’t agree on this one. This bike is it’s own class, similarly like Triumph Scrambler. There is a point in those bikes. They are different, mostly beautifuly made with soul into it. Not everything has to be rational and perfect 😉

[@disekjoumoer]

As always with your videos, Schööfl, I could see that you weren't happy with the suspension. It seemed quite unstable coming out of corners.

[@Schaaf]

yup, well spotted :)

[@brantfurr986]

As someone who has never ridden an FTR, and ridden far fewer bikes than you, I also agree that it's a bike the doesn't necessarily make a whole lot of sense. It's always struck me as a very fun, cool bike, but one that realistically has not practical place. I love that it exists, but it's out-performed in pretty much any category you'd conceivably place it in. Were I a wealthy man, I'd buy one, but only after I had purchased 9 or 10 other bikes... Once again, a really great, no-nonsense review... Thanks for the work you put into these. Can't wait to see your take on the new V-Strom 800 DE, as that's a bike I'm actually considering purchasing.

[@Schaaf]

Thanks a lot Brant

[@BB-1990]

Except outperformed on a flat track.

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

I can't believe there's a modern bike that can somewhat get me the feel of the XR1200 and the MT-01 without the high cost of being a rare bike, while being at a manageable seat height and weight and that too it's from a brand i never paid attention to. Definitely my dream bike.

[@Schaaf]

Nice!

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

​@@SchaafThank you for putting this together!:)

[@deadlinejunky551]

I'd like to take it for a ride sometime - I do like the idea of a big V2, but sporty. That muscle car comparison is great and fun :D

[@Schaaf]

Thanks

[@jun701]

As always pleasant video 😎 FTR is interesting yet somehow doesn’t have enough of “this is it!” factor, personally. A question - when you put the recorder in a backpack, do you fully close the bag? Or do you slightly open?

[@Schaaf]

Fully closed!

[@moto_marcel]

I rode the FTR last weekend. What a machine! Loved it from the start. Too bad its out of budget atm. Felt so much as a hooligan machine 🤣

[@Schaaf]

Nice!

[@mikeopo]

If I could afford one more bike I would certainly buy one ! I had the occasion to ride one - even made a video on that - and I loved the experience ! Great bike 👍

[@Schaaf]

Nice!

[@thomasbouvier3203]

It remind me of mt01 … it was a beast. Love that it’s pure fun and torque… no matter the specsheet… and pure quality. Sure it’s not the best but I rode carbon one. Damn it is so good. Sadly exaust along the leg was a killer for me as it would be a daily and overheat was real

[@Schaaf]

Thanks for sharing!

[@thomasbouvier3203]

Exhaust pop more on akrapovic exhaust…. But maybe my dealer at it unrestricted

[@ChefGk5-11]

I was looking to get one 😅 and lucky me, I saw your review. What a boat! It reminds me of my MT Gen 1, full of power. And when it comes to the twistes the tool was lucking stability in all levels . Best moto vlog ever! Thanks for your work.

[@Schaaf]

Glad I could help!

[@kugangles9860]

FTR is nice but if you're gonna do the whole big bore naked twin thing might as well go big and get a Super Duke R. Plus that extra 60hp never hurts.

[@progste]

It's also lighter

[@Schaaf]

Just what I'm saying

[@jakewillits4678]

I just cant believe they did this with th scout its wild. The carbon model is nuts looking upclose

[@knifetoucher]

Some people want an Indian bike made in America over one that's supposed to be Austrian but is made in India ;)

[@Mr_Glenn]

The Indian actually looks good.

[@emreyaz2084]

Perfekt riding style 👏🏼

[@Schaaf]

Thanks

[@Trollsky]

I am fighting inside between scrambler 1200 and FTR and this bike scares me a little bit and probably will take the triumph :)

[@XcelentTom.]

Definitely give them both a try. I've ridden the FTR aswell, it's more manageable than you think!

[@SkipRides]

This video is sick

[@kewldeus4222]

Kann man das Display auch noch in einen anderen Anzeigemodus schalten? Ich lieber den Drehzahlmesser analog und die Geschwindigkeit einfach als Zahl dargestellt. So wie das im Video war mit dem Mini-Drehzahlmesser finde ich weniger gut.

[@Schaaf]

Ja, kann man!

[@remlapgarage]

Wow it sounds amazing, the crackles on the back off are awesome

[@Schaaf]

thanks!

[@BlakeBarrett]

My current daily is a 2016 KTM Super Duke 1290 R. I wish I had cruise control and better wind protection. If I could get, like, a Veeter faring on an FTR I'd be there in a heartbeat -- that thing looks Rowdy!

[@BlakeBarrett]

The FTR sounds like a V100 Mandello that's trying to start a fight.

[@dimmd8289]

I have a 2022 Ftr S it’s a comfortable fantastic bike with gobs of power on tap and insane torque in any setting and all thru out the range. The reason most people don’t get it and it’s highly underrated is because it’s based on American flat tracking. Which lets be honest most people Never watched or ever heard of. This isn’t a motogp based bike. It is literally it’s own unique Category. But it’s a true beast love your video but don’t at all agree with your take on this bike whatsoever.❤

[@Schaaf]

I know flattrack. And I know that the FTR is inferior compared to it's similarly priced rivals. But it's unique so I get its appeal

[@BiGBoSSMk23]

Hey @Schaaf nice video. You rode that thing like it's supposed to. Which gloves are you wearing, if you don't mind saying?

[@Schaaf]

I don't know the model but these are from Held

[@BiGBoSSMk23]

@@Schaaf Cheers!

[@riffsontwowheels]

I rode it - better than the Duke 790 in one key area - waaaay more comfy on bad pavement - great motor - fun - more comfy ergos

[@Schaaf]

I'd judge both of them as uncomfortable lol

[@Ashrune]

It’s my dream bike just cause of the looks

[@Schaaf]

Awesome!

[@jak3est]

What's your opinion of the ftr compared to the sportster s?

[@Schaaf]

My opinion? The Sportster is more unique and therefore more desirable. In reality both are overpriced piles of steel

[@jak3est]

@@Schaaf lol that's what i thought you'd say. Sportster s are down to 12k used now with very low miles still overpriced tho just like every thing nowadays

[@martinunterauer7093]

Wie würdest du sie zur Ninet vergleichen? Spaß, Fahrwerk etc

[@Schaaf]

Das Fahrwerk der Pure ist ähnlich hölzern aber der Boxer Motor ist was Besonderes. Der Indian V2 für mich hingegen nicht.

[@martinunterauer7093]

@@Schaaf das dachte ich mir schon. Mir gefällt die FTR, aber ich bleibe beim Boxer, ist einfach roher 🤘🏻

[@Hassannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn]

Your review makes me curious about how the base model ftr feels. I wonder if it's lack of traction control and rider modes might actually fix some problems you had with it since there would be less electronic interference, at least you would think. If anyone has experience with both, I'd like to hear about it

[@Schaaf]

It will still be a bike with an engine that mostly produces noise instead of impressive power lol

[@toofastnobrakes]

Although they are fairly different bikes, a lot of people compare this bike with the new Harley sportster S. If you get a chance it would be cool to see you take a spin on that one as well

[@Schaaf]

Coming soon! Although I don't think they are very comparable actually

[@toofastnobrakes]

@@Schaaf same, if you have the chance to choose I suggest ridding one with mid controls

[@65streetfighter]

What tires did you have on it and how was your impression in the corners? *edit Ah, I see, the 2023 model already has the 17 inch tires as standard, so forget about the tires...

[@Schaaf]

Yup

[@65streetfighter]

@@Schaaf And - is it now significantly better in the hairpin bends... maybe comparable to European or Japanese naked bikes? At that time I had test driven one with the 18' tires and it was very wobbly, even in long, fast corners.

[@Thorsten_Kueppers]

Bin 2019 die erste Serie mal Probe gefahren, die hatte noch die komische 18-Zoll Stollen-Bereifung (sehr sehr laut!). Den Motor fand ich vom Start weg geil, ein angenehm klassischer V2-Büffel mit viel Punch von unten raus und erstaunlich guter Laufkultur. Das Fahrwerk und das merkwürdige Einlenkverhalten war nicht so meins. Optisch hingegen ein echter Hingucker und man sieht sie sehr selten. Alltag kann sie aber mal gar nicht 😂 Ein Zweitbike oder reines Spassmobil.

[@Schaaf]

Stimmt!

[@LondonSteveLee]

I like the idea of bike power cruisers (one of my bikes is a Triumph Thunderbird Storm) but this is strange going for the power naked market and then fitting what appears to be horribly under damped suspension. That cooling radiator is a monster - totally spoils the look of the bike - should have gone for tall and narrow.

[@Schaaf]

Agreed

[@astramorikes224]

As always pleasant video

[@Schaaf]

Thanks again!

[@nazzalgrylls1403]

i found a royal enfield showroom near my house like 50 feet far ,,, and i sat on a hunter 350 its so comfy and small and so light weight and sat on a scram 411 kinda heavy like really heavy for me tall seating felt less confident and uncomfortable but I've been on a himalayan its so different Looks big but it looks weight less compared to the Scram cause the bike is twll and seight height is less as i felt ,,, Himalayan sure looks like a good pick for me for the price ,,, I've been calling showrooms since i saw your classic 350 video that orange bike yes that's the one that looks so nice calm ride bikes slow sure but its a different peaceful slow cruiser nice

[@Schaaf]

Thanks

[@bhok1971]

How did you like the M9 RR tires?

[@Schaaf]

Got no complaints

[@paolomergenni6369]

Do you make an exclusive use of the rear breaks ?

[@nazzalgrylls1403]

i like this video cause the bike looks so short and i think your feet can touch the ground so comfortably ,,, it must be good for someone whos beginning it doesn't look too fast either right idk like any speed is fast ,,, it looks like a bicycle pro max with engine not in a bad way it looks like a lovely machine i want something like thos

[@Schaaf]

There's 1000s of options which are better for beginners

[@samdisen]

thx ,Shaff, good review

[@Schaaf]

Glad you liked it!

[@braddeerrzz]

The FTR rally and carbon editions are nothing short of gorgeous, I'm 6ft5 so it's the perfect size and I'll for sure be getting myself one when I can afford to. Unfortunately it just so happens to be the most expensive bike on my list 😅

[@Schaaf]

Nice!

[@Waldo1122]

What boots or foot-gear do you wear in these videos?

[@Schaaf]

No idea

[@bubnjaricsbv]

what do you use to record sound and how do you get rid of wind noise?

[@PAULLONGBOTTOM]

Hi, is this a stock exhaust?

[@hubertkam7647]

could you do a video riding a two stroke somthing like a cagiva mito 125 or a tm smr 125

[@Schaaf]

Unfortunately kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5DPh4hrg6x8i7s

[@noral342]

how do you rev match while using the front brake?

[@Schaaf]

I have pretty long fingers which help with that

[@theutgardianchannel1952]

THe only reviews I can trust. I bet no other channel points out these flaws you mention here, same with the tiger 1200.

[@Schaaf]

Thanks a lot!!

[@Avsenikfan07]

Hello Schaaf i would love to see a test drive from the Benelli Leoncino 800👌

[@Schaaf]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5DPh4hrg6x8i7s

[@Drive_Nation]

Its filmed with 24FPS or 30 FPS? :)

[@Schaaf]

30

[@dmaxcustom]

I envy your roads. Damn.

[@Schaaf]

Thanks

[@c.g.c2067]

Schaaf should test the new Guzzi Mandello aswell 😁

[@Schaaf]

I did but I haven't had the time to edit that one yet

[@c.g.c2067]

@@Schaaf looking forward to see the video. I lpersonally oved it

[@HypeRapEnjoyer]

It definitely has sintered brake pads!😁 Cool video!

[@Schaaf]

Hehehe indeed

[@mrvwbug4423]

The twitchy or delayed throttle response is a common theme across Indian's models with the exception of the Power Pro motor on the challenger. But FTR, Scouts and all the Thunderstrokes have the delayed throttle response in normal and super twitchy in sport.

[@Schaaf]

thanks

[@LondonSteveLee]

The soft throttle response is for the American cruiser type rider who like to do walking pace, clutch out full lock u-turns.

[@Thorsten_Kueppers]

Das mit der Gasannahme war bei der ersten noch krasser. Wenn man vom Gas ging, drehte der Motor noch für 1-2Sek. fröhlich weiter, bevor die Motorbremse einsetzte. Und dieselben 1-2 Sek. nahm er sich dann abermals um wieder Gas anzunehmen, das wiederum dann aber sehr sanft. Insgesamt sehr gewöhnungsbedürftig und irgendwie „unausgereift“.

[@Schaaf]

Klingt nach einem Albtraum :D

[@geraldjones4126]

Modern day Cafe racer!😅❤

[@Schaaf]

Thanks again

[@Chris-lp4io]

Bro is playing traffic rider in real life

[@Schaaf]

Not at all

[@G1lgamesj]

What killed it for me was the fuel economy and the tank got same size as a Ktm 690 smc...

[@Schaaf]

Haha, indeed

[@gokulkrishm51]

"The most beautiful motorcycle" -Fortnine I can't argue with that. Looks amazing and sounds good too. Hope to ride one someday.

[@Schaaf]

Thanks Gokul! Hopefully you'll get your ride soon!

[@ercanyesiltas]

Thats one loud abs

[@Schaaf]

Lol

[@Juuul89]

I like that it exists but next to a super duke this looks like a very poor deal.

[@AMP1991x]

When the super duke isn't in the workshop

[@NudaMan]

They aren’t gonna let a SDR race though unfortunately

[@the.communist]

Two totally different type of bikes

[@Schaaf]

Not that different. Both are naked bikes

[@thomasbouvier3203]

@@Schaafwell one is an hyper naked while the other is just a naked. One is full of plastic the other durable metal… feeling much more qualitative

[@geraldjones4126]

It's what Harley Davidson lacked with development of the 1200 Sporster

[@Schaaf]

Thanks

[@jimwoololo]

My impression of this bike is that its meant for a mix of street, cruising, and light offroading. Good in all areas, but master of none type of thing. Am I wrong?

[@sergiososa5855]

excelent machine indian!!!💙💙💙🤍🤍🤍💙💙💙💯💯💯💯

[@Schaaf]

Thank you, Sergio!!!

[@toofastnobrakes]

Yay! I’ve been waiting so long to see you ride one of these. Can’t wait to see your impressions! Edit after watching: yeah I can definitely understand most of the issues with it. But if looks don’t matter to you then this bike isn’t for you. That half of why people buy the FTR. And yeah the stock suspension is still a little funky. However I’m curious how you’d like the carbon model with the ohlins

[@Schaaf]

Probably a bit more but value wise the Carbon is even worse

[@Chris-yy5pj]

I think I would but it if it retained the same chassis and height but with a 750 or 800. Most people don't want to daily a 1200 rocketship naked bike. That being said, I'd still buy it🤣

[@Schaaf]

Cool!

[@michaeltelemachus5112]

Thanks. It sounds like a scooter.

[@Schaaf]

Haha

[@phillipsmith1489]

Funny that you picked a Super Duke and MT-10 for comparison. In the US, a Super Duke is $4-5k more and the MT-10 is $2k less.

[@Schaaf]

Interesting to know!!

[@adrian3137]

This or the Triumph Speed Twin 1200... i cant decide 😅

[@DJAceBlack]

One of the really few bikes I didn‘t like to ride 😂 The ergonomics on the tank is horrible. The Carbon is also quite too hard 😅

[@Schaaf]

Understandable ;)

[@jeanbalthazar8014]

Nice bike (not in this colour combo though). Wouldn't buy because too heavy and too expensive vs. real "street-fighters". Thanks for the video! Gute Fahrt.

[@Schaaf]

Totally agree

[@Willy_Milano]

Did you know that, in the European Union, blurring the speedometer during a video is a lawful admission of speeding?

[@Schaaf]

absolute bullshit

[@Ni3K]

Hab einmal eine FTR live beim Kurventraining in Ampfing erlebt und die hatte einen sehr "enttäuschenden" Sound und das mit Akras drauf, klingt hier auch nicht sehr aufregend.

[@Schaaf]

Ja, ich hätte mir von dem großen V2 auch mehr erwartet

[@guidochiovelli6599]

I have a ftr carbon r 2022. If you haven't tried it, you can't understand. What is the beauty of this bike, certainly the wild power of its v-twin. I have seen owners of sportier bikes burnt under acceleration.

[@Schaaf]

Well, I tried and I do not understand. I prefer perfomance over looks

[@antares8341]

100% Indian not Hd. Great machine. Where is this road?

[@pv12345]

I think you should have taken the carbon 22 model with ohlins for a spin. It's not a logical choice, but so many things aren't or else we would be riding around the same bikes. Love the looks and premium feel.

[@Schaaf]

I can't choose the bikes I get to ride and the Carbon is even more ridiculous price-wise

[@NdnxdidhhNndhxydh]

Brown Jason Garcia Daniel White Brian

[@Schaaf]

OK

[@jamiiieee5454]

The FTR doesn’t make sense with it’s current config of lowered suspension and 17” wheels. Plenty better value 4 money and ride performance options available. H/E it did make a whole lot of sense in it’s original configuration with 150mm suspension Flat Track 19” front and 18” rear wheels. THEN it’s super unique and the easily unstuck rear is pure fun for the not faint at heart, it’s a magnificent US unique version of Supermoto. And very comfy, too. I even gladly Tour on my Championship edition. Unfortunately Indian listened to all it’s idiot customers who did not understand the initial bike and were wining everywhere that they wanted to change to 17” wheels yadda yadda yadda. I very much like Schaaf’s matter of fact, no nonsense review conclusions. Cheers

[@FTRnRhome]

I just bought the champion edition as well, and part of the decision was because of the original bigger tires. I'm 6ft 4 and wanted the higher seat height. Also got a killer deal. Taking it slow during the break in period but the bike is just down right beautiful and handles so well. Stay safe.

[@str8jktblahblahblah84]

I love my carbon

[@brentlanyon4654]

To my way of thinking, a bike like this needs analog gauges.

[@coltonl9451]

Bro got the speedometer blurred out😭

[@Schaaf]

Wasn't me

[@alakewood7853]

😀👍

[@Schaaf]

Thanks

[@patrickbakjensen7561]

Yes i'd buy one if it wasn't the high taxes ind Denmark (+38.000€) and no smart lock for panniers and little fuelcapasity, makes me say no. But the type of bike is me all the way.

[@lovethytuber4770]

Ride one, yes! Buy one, no. I like the looks actually but you've already said it - too expensive, too heavy and ther're just too many better options.

[@Schaaf]

Thanks mate!

[@kurvaonwheels]

I think it's a beautiful bike (not this one though, the "s" version). But looks alone is not enough, so I bought something quite ugly but fun :)

[@Schaaf]

Sounds decent ;)

[@icemanbigman9313]

I take ftr over mt10 but im always vtwin guy

[@Schaaf]

Alrighty

[@IanTed]

I like the FTR but the tank is far too small…

[@Schaaf]

Indeed!

[@G-Man01]

Cool bike but tank is too small to make it practical.

[@Schaaf]

Yes, true

[@herrdirektor1969]

Doesn't look well planted on the road.

[@ianm432]

The older ones are worse with the goofy sized tires, but they look so good!

[@Schaaf]

It absolutely isn't :D

[@Theoriginalbubbafett]

This bike IS interesting, but not like most would think. I like the styling, but not the performance. A very decent standard, somewhat overpriced.

[@Schaaf]

Thanks

[@SirKittyGamblin]

Bike looks great, but not the sound. .needs to be louder and lope like a v8 hotrod

[@Schaaf]

Thanks

[@dimos5422]

If i had the money i would buy it in an instant

[@Schaaf]

Cool

[@twowheelsabove]

old android sensor buttons on dash - dat *LOL* - looks like cheap chinese bike, what a shame indian...

[@Schaaf]

Hehehe

[@chrissunde1104]

Wouldn't buy it. It seems to heavy and unrefined.

[@Schaaf]

agreed