Industry Analyst's Weigh In On The PS5 Pro

[@j.j.9511]

Know who will buy this? Fanboys like that youtuber who bragged about buying all the 1st party games for full price but was annoyed they denied him a refund.

[@Lightingtheheaven]

I will buy this.....I'm a fanboy.....lol....you dnt have to buy this....don't understand your statement

[@Kirby-Krios]

good dog.

[@Sully.....]

90% of ps5 games are ps4 games.. Gaming is declining and developers are running out of ideas

[@rocketmagnet427]

​@theoutlawking9123 more so gaming on consoles is dying. Pc will keep going fine and handholds will get powerfully enough to fill console game spot

[@inaubryable]

Because we want too realistic games. With stories and everything else...

[@anon8373]

what a dumb take

[@Psilo_Sybin]

It is objectively the best time to be a gamer. I've been gaming for 30 years. Maybe you should leave your bubble and actually look.

[@rocketmagnet427]

​​@theoutlawking9123 if Sony noticed the extra money from releasing on pc for little effort. Also with no now CPU in this pro you won't get much or any fps boost. For $700 with such a weak CPU it's a hard sell unless your a smooth brain. I'm finally going to pick up a second hand ps5 from someone on marketplace who's silly enough to upgrade to this. And it will still sell very good

[@03chrisv]

It's like people forget that the PS5 Pro isn't replacing the PS5. It's meant to give "super" fans and tech heads a higher performing option. If you don't care about ray tracing or 4k60, you DON'T NEED a PS5 Pro.

[@issaciams]

You misspelled "fanboys" 😂

[@pete2097]

If it's for super fans, the elite, it SHOULD come with a drive. Can you see a iphone pro coming without features that the standard iphone has? No

[@craigharris41]

Again most don't use physical media

[@scottd7222]

May I remind you of the headphone jack? How about the IR blaster on samsung or the removable battery? You'll own nothing and you'll be happy.

[@hayabusa09]

Sony is Stewie in that episode where Brian owed him money.

[@MayteraMarble]

Don't defend this MBG.

[@rocketmagnet427]

What makes it worse is the PSSR ai upscaling is software and will be able to be used on normal ps5 unless they gatekeep it....

[@michaelangst6078]

They will for sure gatekeep it. Would be very silly not to

[@rocketmagnet427]

@@michaelangst6078 with that weak CPU still it makes it a hard sell at that price

[@gamefrk11523]

Don’t defend this cash grab MBG

[@Wes_Trippy4life]

PS5 adjusted for inflation is $606. So it makes sense it would cost more 😂

[@princegroove]

@@gamefrk11523 Stop the cap, troll.

[@dave10293874]

Maybe I want a premium console option. Ever consider that? Yall suck

[@gamefrk11523]

@@dave10293874 the price is premium The console is not😂

[@raulvrilvalenzuela924]

I think $700 is pretty reasonable tbh. They have to adjust for inflation just like everyone else is doing. $700 isn't as much as it used to be a few years ago. If $700 is too much for you to pay for, then just stick with the based ps5 . The $700 price point is just for the people that is willing to pay for more power and better performance. The ps5 pro is really nothing more than just a option if you're the type of person that want the best performance in a console with a reasonable value. I'm definitely going to buy the ps5 pro and I think $700 is a pretty fair price especially with what's under the hood.

[@unicorntomboy9736]

In your recent livestream today, how can you defend or dismiss Sony's extortionate practices with the PS5 Pro. I cannot understand how anyone can justify it, the console is too expensive, and Sony must be called out about it, be sent a message that we are not ok with it. I normally agree with most of your takes, and think they are reasonable enough most times, but I cannot agree on this one. On a side note, why does Sony have a weird thing about exchange rates nowadays, as in why do they treat British Pounds the exact same value as American Dollars, when they are not valued the same

[@camusacuario628]

It is not for you then

[@MBG]

I literally said multiple times in my live stream today that everyone should continue to voice their outrage and or concern to Sony. I literally stated this. I was telling people to stop bombarding me personally with them because I'm not Sony.

[@unicorntomboy9736]

@@MBG Ok, fine then, I hear you. Hopefully people will voice their outrage to Sony themselves, as they should.

[@Chris22IE]

The price isn't surprising to a lot of people cause of how the cost of components have gone up and unlike previous generations where the cost of manufacturing went down which meant prices of consoles went down. The cost of manufacturing in this generation of consoles have gone up and companies are to raise prices not lowering them. No company in their right minds will take a hit for the customers and release updated hardware for lower cost no company. Heck i fully expect PS6 to be at least 600 or more same as the next Xbox as well will cost as much too imo. I also fully expect the Nintendo Switch to be at least 450 to 500. It's the same for PCs too as the AMD/Nvidia GPU's are way, way overpriced for what they can do and the next generation of them are going to be even more expensive. Until the companies that make all the components lower their prices the higher prices for consoles and PC GPU's are here to stay sadly.

[@AJ-eh5kn]

@MBG what he is saying that, you have influence over people, just state your disapproval more clearer, i felt you were a bit frustrated with the hate Sony got from their announcement, which is totally deserved and must be called out.

[@DARKNIGHT-117]

$700 more dollars for 30 more fps in fidelity mode. If PS5 pro performance mode offered 120 in all games this would be a great mid gen upgrade. If only we got fidelity mode 60FPS and performance mode 120FPS. I’m hoping PS6 will be fidelity mode 120FPS and performance 144FPS. Cause 60 is just meh now man has me thinking it may be time to go PC cause we deserve better than this PS Nation

[@sccanj]

Lol 120fps 4K? Not even a 4090 Can do that, stop being childish

[@DARKNIGHT-117]

@@sccanj childish? Maybe misinformed, okay 90FPS 4k

[@masterbeyond6548]

You are correct, PlayStation 5 should be able output, True 8K at 120fps, and True 4K also at 120fps. No compromise. Machine output is less than 4K, less than 8K, at 60pfs, 120fps. The truth is, false advertising, misleading others to think the machine is capable of True 8K, True 4K, 120 HDR, without loss of image quality rendering, sold for $400/$500. PlayStation 5 Pro is now correcting some of this false advertisement for the Original PlayStation 5, as many Gamers complain, inadequate image quality at 60fps. PlayStation 5 Pro, will not be able to output True 8K at 60fps/120fps, or True 4K at 60fps/120fps, and is not worth $700. PlayStation 5 Pro is the same cheaper to manufacture PlayStation 5 Slim in different case, and is only worth $400.

[@markkington397]

In Australia the pro with disc drive and stand is $1410.00

[@brandonphilander661]

Same in South Africa.

[@waylarkredux246]

$799 PS6 with $80 games

[@llks1772]

PlayStation is conditioning there base to get there mind ready for ps6 future prices. PS6 Digital Edition = 999.99 PS6 Disk Drive =199.99 PS6 Stand = 59.99 Let’s see how well this ages 😉

[@dood1234DOOD]

HDD? PS5 uses a SSD. PS6 will do the same.

[@toastyburger]

Their "mindless drones" are up in arms about the $700 Pro. They din't seem so mindless to me.

[@ElPibePlay1000]

​@@theoutlawking9123It worked for Nvidia so...

[@TheWillywilo]

EXACTLY!!!... The PS6 will 100% be at least $700 when they see that they had no problem selling the PS5 PRO for that much. SMH

[@JonasJerner]

Xbox next console get low price when they are smart and use zen 5 and not Zen 6 GPU. They know players cant see the diffent and more happy with lower price than PlayStation and selling more consoles! 👍🏻❤️

[@BiggestMikey]

Not surprised to see MBG carrying water for the Consoomer squad

[@marcosalvarez5712]

PS5 pro is nice because of AMD RDNA 4

[@tringuyen7519]

@@marcosalvarez5712Gamers will buy PS5 Pro @ $700 just for the chance to play GTA6 next year! PC Gamers will have to wait until 2026 at the earliest for GTA6!

[@j.j.9511]

Paying beyond $500 for a console is a sin. Locked into a very restrictive ecosystem, paid online, no free cloud saves(MS is free...), stick drift prone controllers, only access to the games & services they want you to access, no refund policy!!!! And can price hike at will and blame inflation.

[@ljeans531]

Games are optimized for console

[@jdzspace33]

I am pretty sure I spent over $1,000 on the PS5 originally after the headset, the remote, the camera, extra storage, and a few games. I know I spent $1000 on my series X. Once you get over the sticker shock, it's not as bad as it initially feels. Still pricey, but I see where they are coming from.

[@gamefrk11523]

Your $1000 ps5 will now become a $1700-$1800 ps5 😂 It’s still a ps5 no matter how they spin it. A very unnecessary upgrade

[@Vaegir808]

bought ps5 day 1, bought a 2tb nvme during covid which costs the same as a ps5.

[@toastyburger]

I agree. The sticker shock hurts, especially for those who expected it to be $500.

[@j.j.9511]

Seriously the damn camera? Know when I purchased the PS3 camera? It was on clearance at a Sears that was closing for $5. That's the only way you're getting me to buy a camera for a console.

[@jdzspace33]

@@j.j.9511 I thought it would be necessary for PSVR.... that was a mistake, ate that L

[@benmcreynolds8581]

How did they think this would work out well? The industry has to admit they have failed at game development. Entire Genres have disappeared. We need Games. We need REASONS to want a new console. They should look back at the PS1-PS2 game libraries and let those games inspire them and get them back to doing what they did during those eras of games. We need 2D, 2.5D, 3D, low poly PS1 style, 2d animation style, cell shaded, sports & Xtreme sports we just need GAMES! It worked then and it will work now. That approach to gaming will always work in gaming, so it's pretty ridiculous how our MODERN gaming industry has lost the plot as much as they have. People mention indie games and we do have indie games BUT 99% are only available on PC and on Steam.. and most indie games are not available on consoles. So consoles are not tapping into the indie game market..

[@PrinterMan1956]

I cannot build a comparable PC with these specs. Totally worth it for me.

[@J_A_P_E]

PS5 Pro is not a "premium" console... a premium console would come fully loaded with a disk drive, vertical stand, unique design and possibly even a pro controller This is a bare minimum attempt that should have just been canceled if Cerny couldn't get the power he wanted for under 700 US dollars

[@MurderWeaponLimited]

flagship phones come without chargers for people that easily have the cash

[@j.j.9511]

Cerny is an overrated joke that is loved by fanboys because he happens to tweet his latest platinum trophy sometimes & say how much he's enjoyed it.

[@J_A_P_E]

@@MurderWeaponLimited Yea that's a great business model that console gaming should totally emulate... I guess because microsoft xbox is a shit company that makes shit decisions we can't really complain about Playstation also

[@J_A_P_E]

@@j.j.9511 No not really considering the PS4, PS4 Pro and PS5 are better than anything the competition has made There is a good reason why PS gets almost every third party game

[@JonasJerner]

Next gen Xbox are Premium and full digital without discdrive

[@Ahmedaphor]

This is a slippery slope cause you know the PS6 will be starting off around agrand!🤖

[@cmart5]

Facts! PS6 digital $799 PS6 disc $899. Apple prices…imagine the PS6 Pro 😂

[@Cameracat89]

The ps4 pro was 450, the ps5 disc was 500 when it released. Realistically, the ps6 will also be in the 700 dollars range

[@issaciams]

And these Playstation fanboys will make excuses for that too. Lol

[@iphone4flix]

It will be 1000 dollars with stand and disc player in Sweden.

[@princegroove]

So what? Cry some more, kid.

[@iphone4flix]

@@princegroove Not crying, and not a kid. I will be buying it.

[@MayteraMarble]

Same in Canada. Fuck that noise.

[@fatjonprendi1026]

As someone who lives in Sweden, day one buy for me🤣

[@iphone4flix]

@@fatjonprendi1026 Absolutely

[@jmcdermott53]

The analyst seems too bullish when not factoring in that the Switch 2 will be announced soon and that may sway people to hold off on the Pro.

[@princegroove]

@@jmcdermott53 Apples and oranges, bro.

[@orangerock2146]

Ps5 pro is a joke. Make it worth while for people who have been faithful to them. Why would i spend that much for an upgrade with no disc driver? There is not enough to justify the insane price hike.

[@Helldive713]

I know we can’t even get the stand or a game thrown in

[@dirtnapstor6884]

Have you upgraded your PS5 with an M.2 drive? If so, how much did you spend? $500 base + M.2 = $$$ I believe the higher price point has to do with the internal 2tb drive.

[@noctisgaming2939]

I agree the price is steep but it's 100 more than a digital only 2tb series x, wish it was 599 but it is what it is.

[@bigaljp]

85% are digital. Disc drives are hardly used

[@j.j.9511]

For the longest time Sony has shown they don't really care about their customers. None of the companies care but they've shown such an ease in taking advantage. I know MS added BC due to being in last place but they did it and did it for FREE. Whenever we bring this up the fanboys say "PS3 is too hard to emulate". No called greedy lazy Sony doesn't care.

[@jefferylittrell1974]

Bro, I love your channel but your math is bad. The digital slim is 400 a digital pro is 700. That’s like a 75% increase.

[@mr-simog4736]

Sony should lower the storage and bring the 2tb back to 1tb or even 500gb and cut costs with 100 bucks. Most gamers that care already have put a larger ssd in their base PS5 they can swap into their new Ps5 pro.

[@ivanmcgann1989]

If you are still using a PS4 there is a not insignificant chance you can't afford a PS5 so making it even more expensive ain't going to have people eyeing the PS5 Pro Model.

[@cursedfishtanx9087]

I really hope that barely anyone buys this at launch so Sony is forced to slash the price. I've been a long-term subscriber, MBG, and I'll stay subscribed, but as someone who has a pretty big presence on this platform for PlayStation news, I hope you understand that you may have some influence on how Sony handles this backlash. The PS5 Pro is 700 US dollars without a stand or a disk drive. And it's even more expensive in other countries. Defending this type of pricing is not cool, man.

[@markmac4461]

I agree, especially in this economy! People ain't made out of money......

[@BanditGxng]

Sadly thats not happening, it will still be sold out day 1

[@tringuyen7519]

@@markmac4461Gamers will buy PS5 Pro like hotcakes just for the chance of playing GTA6 in stunning 8k with RT & PSSR next year!

[@rubng__]

Its a luxury item, its also priced for its tech. Can you buy a pc with the same capabilities for 700? Absolutely not. Is there a pro switch or pro series whatever? Again no. Not to mention inflation. Houses are too expensive, food is, everything is isnt it.

[@million605]

Actually you can make a very decent pc with 700 bucks probably more powerful than ps5. Remember you don't need a rtx 4070 or whatever for a gaming pc those cards are for commercial uses not luxury.

[@victory7763]

​@million605 🧢

[@rikki3950]

​@@million605haha no you cant

[@victory7763]

@ShinjiIkari007 good for you. It's weird that you PC guys act content with your set-up, but you constantly worry about what's going on with PlayStation

[@rikki3950]

@@victory7763 exactly what I said on a post mate, there always in console related posts,

[@OSBRugby]

One major point they seem to be missing here... I have the OG disc drive PS5. Not only is the disc drive non-removeable, but it's also incompatible with the Pro, as opposed to the revised model. The only way this makes sense to me is to sell my OG PS5 to get the Pro.

[@JamitMan]

Most people are completely missing something. RDNA 4 will be coming to the PS5 Pro for the first time ever and AMD will release the RDNA 4 next year for the first time for the RX 8000, which is more powerful than the RTX 4090. The fact is that RDNA 4 will come to the PS5 Pro first and will be released for PC consumers in 2025. That is the main reason why the PS5 Pro is quite expensive. You need to understand that the RDNA 4 architecture for the PS5 Pro is very costly to produce. The only thing we don't know is how much clock frequency the PS5 Pro will use and we also don't know what the PS5’s RDNA 4 will be equivalent to in terms of graphics. It might be slightly higher than the RTX 4090 or it might be at the same level as the RX 8000, but we don't know. AMD hasn't fully confirmed it yet.

[@venomfang181]

I think it’s going to do great tbh, people are complaining but will happily spend $700 on a graphics card for their PC that will do the same thing. Give me a break lol. Console gamers that want good performance and graphics are going to buy this and I think it will do just as well as the ps4 pro. The people crying about the price are just not who this is marketed towards and that’s fine. Everything is not for everybody. If it’s not for you just sit down be quiet and enjoy your base ps5.

[@Irinikus]

It falls exactly where I expected it to, price-wise. There's a reason as to why there are two different offerings (The Standard and the Pro) I won't rush off to get one, as I do have a first edition PS5, but will probably get one sometime next year. (It is significantly better than the original machine, and silicon real estate is proportional price-wise mm2 for mm2)

[@MayteraMarble]

Fuck that. No way I'm paying $1000 CAD for this.

[@dotty1774]

Don't do it then 🤷‍♂️

[@joeydirt420]

Fuck that. No way im paying a $1,000,000 CAD for a Lamborghini

[@tringuyen7519]

@@dotty1774Exactly. Just be envious of your friends’ PS5 Pro playing GTA6 next year in stunning 8k with RT & PSSR!

[@rocketmagnet427]

​@tringuyen7519 won't pssr be on normal ps5 though I'd it's software based? And won't it look better on pc also?

[@arnevesper]

«Superfans»… I have enough playstation products to start a small museum, but this is offering too little for too much money

[@craigharris41]

Then don't buy it, it's not that hard

[@arnevesper]

@@craigharris41 lol, ofc Im not gonna buy it and ofc its not hard. Your comment is patetic

[@yavorchernaev39]

While everybody is fighting over the price of the ps5 pro, at the back of my mind I am like - so ps4 pro came out at $399.99 and the nintendo switch at $299.99, does that mean that switch 2 will be $599? 😬 (but even $499 is crazy for a nintendo machine, but I bet you'll validate that price 😅)

[@magfam9980]

The price is fine, problem is no disc drive for the price, physical version should always be priority, will support when they bundle a disk drive for same price

[@severinevans346]

Ok a console that costs 700$ or 780$ with the disc drive. That's over 800$ after tax. For that price you can build a PC with a Ryzen 5 5600 and a RXT 4060 or RTX 4060 super even 4070 if you catch a decent sale. And with DLSS 3 and frame generation it would most definitely outperform that PS5 pro. Your way too close to PC territory with this one and I just don't think that's a good idea. But it's your money buy what you want just logically makes no sense for me. It's not for me that's fine you guys have fun with it.

[@itsjusterthought7941]

The PS5 Pro is a premium device for the enthusiast like me, but I notice the PS5 Pro does not include an optical drive and that they are all out of stock on Sony's website. To be honest I expected 2 options as a worst case scenario. PS5 Pro 2TB SSD digital £600 and PS5 Pro 2TB optical drive £700. It was really important for Sony not to screw this up, but it's a mess. Not sure how I feel about this now. I want to buy the complete console, but scalpers will hijack the optical drives and I'm back where I started, not being able to buy a PS5. I can't help thinking if Sony had not been so greedy by wasting over $600 million chasing service based games such as Suicide Squad, Concorde and whatever else, I could have be playing TLOU3 and Uncharted 5 on a PS5 Pro 2TB SSD with optical drive for £500. I'm annoyed that I have to pay for their mistakes and that is killing the will to upgrade from my PS4 Pro.

[@andyespinozam]

It will sell what Sony expects. The rest will complain as if the standard version didn’t exist.

[@bugzyboy26]

Yea I’m good with my original ps5 ,those minor details aren’t bout to make me come out my pocket especially with no disc drive. Plus I’m a savage who’s plays all my games on fidelity mode 😁

[@Juice_VI]

People just like to complain. It will sell just fine. Just like the PS4 Pro.

[@tyleroutland435]

I am not buying the trash ps5 pro. I hope it fails in sales. I already have a ps5 disk console. Sony are being idiots and greedy

[@bigaljp]

Grow up. It's not marketed at people like you. It's for people with disposable income

[@mza4739]

It's not trash, it's the fastest and most powerful console ever. Is it overpriced? Yes. Is it trash? No.

[@tyleroutland435]

@@mza4739 and you are wrong

[@tyleroutland435]

@bigaljp yeah it's marketed for greedy people and people who waste their money on trash

[@nicekix3038]

@@tyleroutland435 Why are you so upset about a console you don’t have to buy?

[@Munchkinz11]

they still didnt learned on what happend to PS3.

[@-Old-School-Gamer]

Everyone who’s complaining about the price of the PS5 Pro really need a reality check. Looking at the specs of this machine, it’s going to be performing at similar level to a 4070 Super, in both rasterisation and ray-tracing, and that is a £620 graphic card alone. The machine then also comes with a significant upgrade (28%) to the RAM and throughput speed, and you’re also getting 2TB of storage as well , which is double what you get on the base PS5. That is at least another £200 plus worth of components too. Then add in the price of the motherboard, the cooling system and other components, along with all the production costs, then the price is actually pretty fair. The only area without a significant improvement is the CPU, but even there you’re still getting a slight boost bringing it up to similar performance of the Xbox series X. I only really see one genuine complaint, that it isn’t shipping with a disc drive, or at least have an option for a bundle containing both with a slight discount compared to being bought separately. I genuinely do not understand what people were expecting, the PS4 Pro came out at a similar price to the PS4, yet people didn’t buy it (myself included), because the performance gains weren’t good enough, and that was because Sony concentrated on getting the box out at an affordable price. Clearly that strategy wasn’t successful so this time around Sony have obviously recognised who are their target audience is, and made it more expensive, but with a genuine and substantial upgrade. Why is it that only in the gaming community, I continually see people acting like entitled crybabies, pocket watching others, and constantly trying to tell other people what they should spend THEIR money on. Most of which are the same people who are happy to spend extra on their Phone, i.e. they’re people who will choose to upgrade to an iPhone Pro Max just to have a bigger screen, or they’re the same people who will continuously pay £1000 plus to upgrade their graphics card every three years; Yet for some reason, those exact same people act as though us console players who can afford it, shouldn’t be allowed to do the same. This is not a priority machine, it is targeted at two audiences, i.e. people like myself who only play on console, but don’t want to have to choose between quality or performance, and high-end PC players, who don’t want to wait for first party PlayStation titles. P.S. Where was the outrage for the £600 digital only Xbox Series X, which comes with no upgrades at all, other than 2TB of storage.

[@zenotretiak5841]

this. and no competitor on the horizon it is hard to find people reasoning these days...

[@dotty1774]

Well said

[@Navo198]

Finally, a sane person with logic and reason, wish more people shared your logic

[@Lowkey-yb4nm]

A pretty big reach assuming that gamers spend 1000 dollars every year on an iPhone but I get where you’re coming from and I appreciate your level of reasoning. However, Sony does not pay anywhere near msrp for these components, especially their APU’s. So while I understand you trying to equate the cost of the console to the market price of a standard gpu, it’s an irrelevant comparison because Sony is paying far less for the components anyway. Also, they’ve essentially put the cart before the horse in terms of not properly showcasing the capabilities of the console with newer, more demanding titles.. U don’t role out a new console and showcase 4 year old exclusives that people have beaten a dozen times already, one of which(tlou2) has been released twice in 3 years. I imagine they’ll market this with some sort of gta6 gameplay showcase down the line, but as of now there is no “this is why u need a pro” title to help facilitate marketing hence the strong negative reaction. The market for this thing is razor thin. PC players will not spend 700-1000 to play a Sony game that might come out once every year or two and will hit pc either day and date or 1-3 years later. It would take for Sony to show a plethora of GROUNDBREAKING first party title for pc players to entertain the pro. More than likely they’ll just put that money toward upgrades. PS4 players weren’t interested in paying 500 for the ps5 so they definitely won’t gravitate to the pro. The only real market for the pro imo is current ps5 owners who are struggling through games like space marine 2 and wukong. The ps5 is genuinely having a hard time with those titles but because the ps5 is still in production they don’t want to undermine the console. This is understandable but again, it sells the pro short in terms of showing what it can do. Ultimately I think the rollout of the pro is making more and more ps player look at pc. I’m currently building one and guys like gamer 2323 are seriously considering it as well. Why not just pay a bit more, have a more powerful gaming rig than the pro , be in an ecosystem that allows u to truly be autonomous with no boundaries around software or hardware, have access to mods and have full modularity in terms of upgrading parts. Lastly, Sony should’ve absolutely included the disc drive and stand. By not doing so u essentially punish those that bought the og ps5 because the disc drive isn’t detachable so now they’ve gotta spend more on a drive. I mean come on bro. No stand is disrespectful.

[@-Old-School-Gamer]

@@Lowkey-yb4nm you just completely ignored everything I wrote, and did the exact same thing, waffling and basically trying to tell me what I should spend MY money on. Not everyone wants to play on PC , some of us spend all day in front of a PC for work, so the last thing we want to do when we relax, is spend even more hours gaming in front of a PC. Why can’t you people understand this and stop telling others how to spend THEIR money. P.S. you’re wrong about the component prices as well, I can almost guarantee that Sony are making very little if any profit on those systems. For a start the yen price has been hit significantly, driving prices through the roof in Japan, plus we have two major wars going on which are affecting the global economy. We’re also seeing an AI boom which is currently inflating the price of components worldwide, which have gone up significantly over the past few years. Why do you think these consoles haven’t gone down in price (from any provider) and nearly every high-end electronic has gone up in price? Like I said, people need a reality check.

[@brianmcswain8932]

Can’t wait for the Pro. My daughter and I will be getting the Pro and just purchased two disc drives and two vertical stands in advance. PS6 probably won’t release until 2028 or 2029 so we’ll get plenty of use out of it.

[@2Acharmcity_Gamer]

I don’t mind paying $700 for a console but you have to give me something to justify it to tell me shit in the background will be more detailed and 60 fps just isn’t enough

[@vivekgurikar]

Sticker shock for sure. Personally, it’s worth it to me. Ps5+ 1TB will be $600. A $100 increase on that for the pro is worth it to me. 4k60 here we come!

[@suanenggoh3216]

I support Sony for making it 700 since its a premium product but wish they atleast bundle it with external drive and a stand either those or 6 months ps plus premium mix

[@FebvsGX]

PS5 Pro will sell mildly ok, but Sony's Brand has been hurt. Sony's success is due to its fans, and the Fans got their reward today. A $700 dollar bare-bones Pro console not ment for you. You get the one that runs a stuttery 30fps but came with a stand. Your move XBOX

[@Ajmarshall523]

I have a standard ps5 and eventually want to upgrade to the PS5 pro but I only will buy if the price will drop in a couple years

[@toastyburger]

When the slim didn't get a price drop, I knew the Pro was going to be expensive. But this is steep by any measure. 56% more than the base model. But I guess it's better than canceling it altogether.

[@raineg0689]

As a long time pc gamer, looking at the comments section I find it funny that on every ps5 pro youtube video I see the same comments "Too Expensive & Not Buying & PC is Better" Many consumers forget that parts for current consoles are expensive, around the world economic and currency value is on a all time low and sony this time around wants to make profit. People that complain here are the same people that have no issue when the new NVIDIA 50 series graphics card comes out, the price suddenly does not matter! hmmmm.......😂 Hypocrisy at its finest! Thats like complaining why the new Ferrari is more expensive compared to the old one! There is a old saying: If you have nothing good to say, its better to remain SILENT.

[@eliteh8597]

All it does is enable the other graphics option. I can afford it easily, but even I can't justify the price to the minimal upgrade. The argument is, it's for a super fan, well a super fan already owns a ps5 (original) it's harsh to ask them to drop 780 on the full package and super fans buy physical media and collect the games you just screw them over by squeezing €$£ out of them

[@necro699]

I hated this idea at 1st. Then I thought about it. 2 tb conpared to the 1 tb we got with the 1st PS5. Yeah, no hard drive, but i haven't bought a disc since the disc games are EMPTY. You STILL have to download the game with a disc or not. I can take my ssd's from the PS5 on to the Pro. I will have both fidelity and performance. I'll have the best of both worlds for any game coming out, and it's another 3 years before the PS6. The extra $200 is actually a deal for all the tech im getting. The PS6 will be the same price. We want PC graphics, well here they come and for a helluva lot cheaper without having to buy a graphics card and everything else. I'll buy it eventually or day 1 IF i have the resources ready for purchase. I have changed my mind.

[@necro699]

@Pangl0ss2 Yes, we know the actual usable. It's still a steal after much consideration. There is no need to buy any new hard drive ssd's . Just move it to the new console.

[@necro699]

@Pangl0ss2 people just love to complain about everything. It's not for everyone and they then voice loudly that it sucks. I'm all for high quality and I don't care who offers it as long as it's good. If Xbox was great, I'd be supporting them like in the 360 days. PC has always been great since the 80s, it was just crazy back then as the technology was constantly changing and you HAD to upgrade, today it's alot better to be on PC. Playstation is IT right now, so that's where my money is at. It's all our opinions and needs. I'm just happy to be alive to have these great options. Like I said, when I can afford to get it, I will. Day 1 if I'm lucky or later down the line.

[@AliRizvi-m8i]

MBG is paid by sony.

[@thegamewin100]

He wishes lol

[@tringuyen7519]

Gamers will buy PS5 Pro for the chance to play GTA6 next year. Sugar babies twerking in stunning 8K with RT & PSSR is worth the $700!😊

[@JEDIAL9]

*That's not the purpose of the **_Pro_** console.* _Sony is doing it like any other electronic._ *All electronic corporations have a base model to the top model being very expensive. For example, Apple, Microsoft, DEL, HP, etc., SONY top model console is $700.* It doesn't mean that the regular PS5 is obsolete, it's just fine.

[@rockyramsy]

I think it is worth investing in. Will definitely get one

[@countquackula8539]

Nobody is buying regular Xbox. I doubt an Xbox Pro would've sold. I'm very sure that the PS5 Pro will sell out.

[@cardassa]

Yes, I am pretty sure analysts told Sony that Concord would be selling like gangbusters too or that banning 180 countries from accessing Helldivers would massively boost their PSN accounts. Given that majority of them tend to be drastically wrong in their predictions more than 75% of the time, they are about as trustworthy as a car salesman. Willing to skew the numbers to tell you want to hear than give you the actual facts. You're better off taking their reports with huge grains of salt and a wide margin for error. If I were Sony I would be firing all the analysts and be vetting them more carefully. Most of them seem to be peddling numbers just to push their own point of view more so than realistic interpretations of the market. That being said, he is not entirely wrong by saying superfans will jump the gun to purchase these upgrades (along with anyone that can write it off as business expense). 15 million? I would predict only half a million to a million if Sony keeps going as they are. They might make it to 2 million if they actually get their act straight and start releasing some quality SP titles. Astro butt is a good start but a pebble in a pond filled with disappointments.

[@JonasJerner]

Better spend money on Game Pass model and more games Xbox do and more cheap on next gen console. Xbox are the winner when next Xbox get more cheap price with Zen 5 when PS6 use Zen 6 and Xbox understand Zen 6 not have different players see and they have more cheap price and sell more console.

[@Cameracat89]

Yall said that about the series shit

[@miguelseara12]

Sales of PlayStation 5 drives outsell Xbox Series on Amazon - boycott of Pro version appears to be lifted

[@cmart5]

PS6 digital $799 PS6 disc $899 imagine PS6 Pro??? 👀

[@robertrice2141]

The people this isnt for you, are the same people that have 50 pairs of Jordan's. Consle gamers are not use to paying higher prices for consoles. PC gamers tall down to console users because they have no problem spending $1,000+ for gaming.

[@alphaj9]

I’ll take one. I just hope they are available in stores cause I know where I stay no one is gonna be checking for a $700 game system 😅. Day one baby when it’s on the shelf

[@enjoygaming-x2u]

Ps 5 pro is too too too too expensive

[@doublecell966]

For you absolutely

[@darkslaerdark]

For pc low end - mid ens GPU cost like 700$ ( Rtx 4090 is 2000$+)

[@JR-cm1yb]

Is an option you don't have to buy it keep your ps5 is still a competent console

[@PC-ONE]

@@darkslaerdark You can find GPU's cheaper than that. Btw, don't compare the PC to console. Aside gaming, what PC does console can not do.

[@jalero0212]

It's not that expensive though

[@Adriano.V]

Well for me it's a day one purchase. Of course I wish the drive or atleast the stand was included. But still day 1 for me.

[@Carl-G]

The melt down on the Internet has been hilarious really :D I'm loving it :D Thanks SONY for giving me extra entertainment then :D + I think it will probably sell about the same as the PS4 Pro did in the end 👍

[@AlienTenno]

Get ready for the Price of PS6 if this is anything to go by

[@Chris22IE]

and the next Xbox as well since the higher prices look to be staying for a good long while.

[@keijijohnson9754]

1:36 - Yeah but what that do called "analyst" fails to remind himself about there is that those are ACCESSORIES. Optional stuff that would be more worthwhile of their prices, for the most part, and this easier to stomach more often than naught. That's different compared to paying SEVEN HUNDRED BUCKS for a single console here. It may have been a bit excusable with the 3D0 three decades ago but not only you could've seen how that went, but it was just a completely different time there. And much like with the 3DO and even with its different consoles, even the most hard core of superfans would still stick with the comparably affordable non pro models! THIS THING is for the most snobbish of frame rate snobs, pure and simple. That's all this thing really is.

[@garybalaban6129]

I'm good with waiting till PS6.

[@Imhotep397]

Ultimately, the sold-out bluray players tell you everything you need to know. It seems like it doesn’t matter how much public ridicule on youtube springs up. Half of the Ps4/PS4 Pro userbase hasn’t bought a console yet and there are a fair number of Xbox owners that only bought a Series S probably that don’t mind spending extra as they know there’s a mountain of great games they can get that they never played that will be dirt cheap now and 2025 is likely to bring a new batch of bangers from Sony optimized for the Pro. The price is high, but I also suspect that a lot of the people balking now may have paid an overly steep price for their PS5 from scalpers…clearly people bought scalped PS5s. Some are people that bought a PS5 in the last year or so because of the supply chain issues. Having paid through the nose for a PS5 or struggling to find one for months or over a year might drive some people batty to see a new shiny, extra expensive console that may yet make the regular PS5 seem even more ho-hum is a lot to deal with for some. The generation has been hard on gamers.

[@Beastwhisperer_1]

sony need too making money then loss money now on see higher cost for ps6

[@justinbergmans36]

To not put a disc drive and than try to say how much better games look, using first party Sony games, is pure Sony marketing. In a not good way. The games that they showcased already looked great. The comparison looked non existent on a KZbin stream, where most watched the presentation. Sony needed to present a pro game.

[@GamingWithDa1nOnli]

Ps6 will be similar price so get ready.

[@brynx24]

waiting for reviews, might just get this 2025

[@michaelmooradian4513]

It will do PS4 Pro numbers definitely

[@Ajmarshall523]

Will the PS5 pro eventually dropped in price

[@rocketmagnet427]

Once scalpers get hold of it might as well get a pc that will play better games

[@luigolas]

No. I’m sorry. We are forgetting this is old hardware already. PS5 is 4 years old. Should be cheaper. This pro should be max 600, probably less. Again we are way into the generation… no way Sony can justify this price on hardware. It’s simply because they can. Or they think they can. tHoperully it’s a failure like VR2 . PS5 is the last PlayStation for me. Moving to PC.

[@KingScotto.]

It's not old lol RDNA4 only came out a year ago

[@GJG0420]

13 to 15 mill is a far reach. 15 would probably be a 3rd of all PS5 sales?? Hmmm

[@Peacesollael]

This happens because of the Sony portal , it doesn’t do anything but y’all bought it and now here’s your $700 console

[@WyvernRadamanthys]

I was watching a bit of your last stream and heard how you were still thinking about buying the Pro. I was wondering, if you still didn't have a base PS5 for whatever reason, would the Pro be a no-brainer for you? (Sorry if you already mentioned this on your stream)

[@TheWillywilo]

I guess they want a PS VR 2 level flop. It likely won't happen but I see them possibly having to be forced to shave the price. This price is not justified when there's no disc drive, stand 🙄 and then no new games, not old games that take advantage of through patches but new games built from the ground up for it from the get go. As i commented elsewhere, they priced it that high in order to gauge how high they can price the PS6. Think about it. They aren't going to sell the PS6 for less then what the PS5 Pro costs. Don't buy this and send a message to Sony. This is absolutely ridiculous. They are complacent just as they were when launching the PS3. Don't buy this because your just telling them that your willing to pay the same or more for the PS6. If the PS6 is this high and maybe it could be higher PlayStation is definitely dead at that point. SMMFH 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🙄🙄🙄 Also the disc drive is selling out because the efin scalpers are buying them up and honestly i hope they're kept holding the bag because of this flops i won't feel sorry for them.

[@grieverx8670]

All those crybabies here are getting on my nerves. If you cant afford it, dont buy it. But dont tell others the PS5 Pro is bad just because you cant afford it. Im gonna trade in my PS5 and get the Pro. Its the best console

[@Avalanchezia]

Wow, just imagine how much the ps6 is going to cost!!!

[@1ezeuk]

How long did it take you to hunt down this industry analyst? Who was this industry analyst (simp)? Why not full disclosure?👎. Just get a gaming P..C with similar specs if it's for superfans who have a PS already and get a whole new library of games to play for the same money. Everyone knows this is overpriced and exploitative because of the lack of competition.

[@HakaiGamingHD]

Mark my words, Sony's greatest downfall will be this simple question: Can the $700 Pro play GTA 6 at 60fps?

[@03chrisv]

It will. They'll probably make the game run at 1080p internally to achieve 60fps but then use PSSR upscailing to hit 4k. It should look really good.

[@lewis6720]

What a sad time for gaming. You are not helping if you purchase this console. Who knows what sony will do when PS6 releases. Competition is always good for the industry and we need it. This is unacceptable.

[@j3kwe]

These super fans better dissect this ps5 pro to death. Sony will be cooked if games are dropping from 60fps even a little.

[@grcigar9911]

This is a Pro console. Does it come with a pro controller…the Edge?

[@allenholmes8655]

It does not surprise me in the least that the PS5 Pro is this price, at the very least I believed it would be $650. Am I defending their pricing ? Absolutely not. However, I will agree that this console is meant for the gaming enthusiast with a certain level of disposable income. I have been of the belief for quite some time that Sony should offer different tiers of their console at different price points based on the amount of tech you want in your console and what you are willing to pay. Like have 3 tiers of the console. An entry level, a PS5 slightly more powerful than that, and last a beast of a PS5 that can hold its own against some gaming PCs. Just a thought.

[@djj1]

No disc drive included for $700 is just.🖕

[@samw2670]

Im still buying it i care alot about details and performance.

[@Adrian-uc4ox]

700$ is how much I paid for my ps3, on day one, people need to stop crying, the pro is for professional gamers duh! If you can afford a ps5 pro then get another job! Slackers!

[@willd7157]

It is definitely more expensive than I thought. If I didn’t already have a OG PS5 it would be sitting on the shelf.

[@twintron]

The Playstation 3 released 18 x years ago on 11th November 2006 for $599 (60GB model). Bloomberg reported that the PS5 standard edition costs Sony around $450 to produce. It sells for $499 disc edition, with the digital-only edition for $399. Sony make a small loss but make it up on Games and PS Plus subscriptions. Because Microsoft are not making an enhanced edition console, Sony can break even on the PS5 Pro, or even make a small profit. For me the cost is about $100 too much and I really think it should ship with the stand as a minimum.

[@elbuglione]

Time of Control Damage vid?

[@susanna8612]

How can u still try to COPE? Wake up

[@B-U-T-C-H-E-R]

It will sell out

[@j.j.9511]

It may sellout but how will it do beyond the honeymoon period of hype is the important question. Great sales for a month then once all the loyalist have one and the rich ppl then it tanks in sales.

[@B-U-T-C-H-E-R]

@@j.j.9511 And that's fine for a low volume machine literally meant for enthusiasts. GTA alone will sell consoles though

[@mh22xv]

e doesn’t realise that developing new Technology takes a lot of effort, engineering skill and cost a lot of money. Sony is a business and not a charity. If you don’t understand that, well nobody is forcing you to buy the new system. But if you want companies to invest in new ideas and develop new technologies you support them and buy it. Not even DF seem to understand this. They whine and call the new upscaling system “pisser”, giggle and act so immature. C’mon John, Rich and Alex, grow up and be professionals and objective. Cernys design is an elegant one, and I’m talking internals here. But being the pc guys they are they are in bed with Microsoft. I have the big three. No im not rich, i have a day job, I like technology and gaming. But I don’t want companies to stop developing great things for me to be part of. Of course it’s expensive. It’s an expensive hobby. Deal with it. Or start reading books, it’s free if you go to the library. Now, even I think they could have included the stand and the drive for a more complete package.