INFJ vs INTJ with Michael Y. | Type Talks E10

[@narchelsin7679]

Michael is an excellent example of an INTJ. I resonate with much of what he says. Good to see a mature INTJ example up. One with a relatively well developed Feeling function.

[@krystalsoong740]

I love how Michael gets all uncomfortable when you give him a genuine compliment 😂

[@JoyceMeng22]

🤣

[@linyenchin6773]

Soong, nice Mortal Combat last name, *FINISH HIM!!*

[@bett8762]

INFJs are so good at listening.

[@rayankanfar1230]

The best way for me to distinguish Ti from Te is that Ti is concerned with understanding the details of any logical framework given an assumption while Te is more about how to use the logic to produce something in the world without necessarily understanding the details. As an example in math, Ti would be concerned with understanding the derivation of a mathematical equation while Te would be concerned with how to use it to do create or impact something the Te user is interested in.

[@JoyceMeng22]

Well said, Rayan! Great distinction between Te and Ti.

[@narchelsin7679]

The caveat I would add to this is that Te is not solely about action. That is a trope that is a bit overplayed in the typology community. A lot of that actually sounds like Se bleeding into Te descriptions. Te is also - largely - about figuring out what is OBJECTIVELY TRUE. What does the EVIDENCE say? And where does the logic follow from that? I look at Ti as Rationalism and Te as Empiricism. I think that's a more accurate way of looking at things.

[@Maria-ir1wq]

Narc Helsin 🤯🤯🤯 I needed to understand this

[@narchelsin7679]

@@Maria-ir1wq One other frame that might help you... there are three types of truth: correspondence, coherence, and pragmatic. Correspondence is that what is being claimed is sound, that it accurately corresponds to reality. Coherence is that, given a set of assumptions, what is being claimed is valid, that it indeed follows from the premises. Pragmatic is that what is being claimed, for whatever reason, works, it gets the job done. Ti is coherence. Te is both correspondence and pragmatic. Ti users like to denigrate Te by making it sound like it's only pragmatic. Which is the qualm I had with the original comment.

[@dogdonut3]

@@narchelsin7679 I don't know much about either rationalism or empiricism. So I was inspired to look them up (thank you). But now I am confused because rationalism sounds so much more like the te an intj would employ. This was in the descriptionof rationalism: "The Intuition/Deduction Thesis: Some propositions in a particular subject area, S, are knowable by us by intuition alone; still others are knowable by being deduced from intuited propositions."

[@sandradibiaso7316]

My heart goes out to Fis who get severely depressed. 😢💔

[@chossenone730]

Thanks for ur compassion a year later

[@iamjayprakash]

Thank you from infj .we struggle from time to time. As we age we become better at managing it.

[@Kutthroatkawaii]

The use of depression to explain the experience of Fi was brilliant. Hit the nail right on the head. It sounds like it would be so distressing for an INFJ to assert themselves 😞

[@JoyceMeng22]

Yeah Michael is really good at putting his Fi into words :) so true, Shanshan.

[@lotcarlos9996]

I absolutely enjoyed watching this. I noticed how INFJ and INTJ communicate are very informative and deep. I’m an INFJ and one of my best friend’s an INTJ and we can talk for hours about everything.

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

Again great choice for the type! No doubt this is an INTJ. He also just looks like a typical INTJ (physically)

[@JoyceMeng22]

Good to hear!! (By the way, what's your name if you don't mind me asking. =] unless you want me to call you Red Bull lol) Yeah, he really does look INTJ! My first words to Michael upon meeting him: "You look super IxTJ."

[@narchelsin7679]

@@JoyceMeng22 yeah, it's best to say he looks IxTJ. His "look" could be ISTJ. But his mannerisms are clearly INTJ.

[@linyenchin6773]

His perception is heavily hampered by pride and the distraction of his own emotions~imagination. His listening is impoverished, in contrast to his "authoritative" push to speak.

[@icanrelate]

It's so cool how there's a classic INTJ appearance lol my son is a classic INTJ & so is my male coworker. Is there a stereotypical look for each type?

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

@@icanrelate I think there is, but this subject is still a bit controversial in the typing community. There are people convinced there is no relation and there are people who think they see it. I think our biology and personality are related, as to me does not seem likely that personality is just a random thing you get injected into your body and that comes out of nowhere. As a simplistic example, when a person gets injected testosterone both their physical appearance changes and their personality becomes more classically "masculine". Of course this is a highly simplified example, but it shows that a thing like a hormone can influence both behaviour and looks. A bti related to that is the concept of body language of types. There are people who this and the mannerisms of types. It's called vultology (I do not know much about that though)

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

INTP can confirm: 3000+ unread messages (based on what I remember from a year ago since I hardly ever look at that number)

[@JoyceMeng22]

lmao!! That would drive Michael to insanity. :) Thanks for watching btw, I appreciate you checking this tiny channel out.

[@sangitaekka]

The energy management part is spot on! As an INTJ myself, all calls, all on my calendar, and the personal goals I have made, I try to fit them all in so everything gets completed and in an efficient manner.

[@JoyceMeng22]

Love you INTJs for that very reason 😀!

[@DeezyRYG]

Michael's presence is so awesome. Like, I can actually feel his energy all over again just from watching this. And yes, what Joyce said about the tests, it is so true. To get just a bit wrong, can get a lot wrong. It is interesting how for Joyce how if the emotion is not explicit, it does not exist. I definitely understand and relate to an extent, but I still feel it. So even If I do not see the emotions explicitly, I feel them from the individual. But yes! Those Fi practices were something else! "Ti is logic that is not bound with end goal" wow! I hated the Te exercise as well lol so yeah I agree that Ti is more fluid. I also definitely talk around my emotions to distance myself! That is so cool haha I feel understood. Thanks for explaining that. Thanks for this interviewww.

[@JoyceMeng22]

Thank you Denzel for watching!!! Haha okay hm maybe I should expand on 'if the emotion is not explicit, it does not exist.' So I DO feel emotion that isn't directly shown. Where I differ from Fi is that I don't project my own emotions onto others. I don't empathize by referring back to my own emotional storage bank and superimposing that onto another person. I'm more seeing the emotion as it is happening (while not referring back to myself). That's why I call it explicit, because I'm paying attention to the emotions around me (while numbing out my own emotional experience). Emotions exist outside of me and it's my desire to understand them external to myself. I feel better knowing that you relate!! It makes me feel understood so thank you for letting me know. ^-^

[@NicStride]

This was a really interesting video and comparison between the types, even if you didn't compare much to your INFJness. :) (I guess the difference is Fe, not wanting to assert the self into a conversation, even if said self is an important part of the conversation.) Michael: I want to destroy people. Joyce: That is so cool! Hahaha :D

[@JoyceMeng22]

I am laughing so hard right now! That is me; Overly affirming 'till the very end. :)

[@robbished]

​@@JoyceMeng22 Also, when your videos are about to end but there's still 5 minutes of compliments left until they actually end… :-)

[@hfortenberry]

Joyce, I keep forgetting to tell you that that floral comforter behind you is SO PRETTY! I have a love of and collection of bedding, quilts, blankets, sheets, and especially love vintage floral patterns.

[@BrianOfAteionas]

On the topic of Te: Opening the vault. On the topic of Fi: A deep well containing everything at all times. These are such useful phrases.

[@VortexThePrime]

See this is very odd. I identify as an INFJ and I'm well aware of my own feelings but if someone starts crying I will prioritize them. I won't begin to act against the social environment unless a deeply held value is crossed. Even then it would probably be after warning has been given. Sometimes I will find that the more time I spend alone I may find other aspects of a situation that upset me than I initially saw. It doesn't necessarily feel like they're overwriting my emotions as much as it feels like I'm absorbing their emotions too. Then it feels like absolute chaos.

[@avneet5219]

As an INTJ, I need all the accurate information at hand so that I can predict the exact future and once future is seen in the mind and my Tunnel vision is ready, I get the biggest confidence boost I will ever get!! And then I will Te my way and outmaneuver everybody with flying colours. The biggest problem arises when I get bombarded with so much sensors and get all the wrong information at hand and all the pieces of the future picture in the mind fly here n there and then it hampers the ability to predict the accurate future. That's why most INTJs live in solitude and mostly work behind the scenes seeing bigger patterns and controlling everybody like a puppet to get exactly what they want. This can be seen as evil but INTJs are one of the most loyal unicorns you will ever meet if you get their trust. Just give an INTJ enough solitude and he will shake everything and people around him will be saying he's doing some magic in his room to get all these things Done, happens all the time! I think that's why INTJ is one of the "most popular type" in the whole MBTI community...

[@kingben1216]

INTJ here and I really appreciate your thoughtful analysis. This really describes our cognitive patterns very well.

[@forgottenclown9115]

Wait, you trust the Tunnel vision? Wow! I have inferior Te and it scares the hell out of me. In that mode I have no access to empathy, usually I'm totally stressed out, and i become totally self-absorbed. Amazing!!!

[@loudmindedguy3413]

Hi Joyce! I love this video :) It's really nice seeing an INFJ and an INTJ side by side, it really brings out the stark differences between the types! I identify as an INFJ myself and another difference I notice between myself and Te users is the fact that whenever I'm trying to navigate through anything logically, I always come up with my own personalized way of understanding it and doing it, even if it's at the cost of efficiency! I'm actually very blind to efficiency that is readily observable from an outside perspective lol. I think my "ways" of doing things are highly personal to me just like how emotions and values are highly personal to Fi users, so I would feel suffocated and infringed upon if I'm made to follow Te guidelines on how to "best" do something when I already built my own way of doing it in my head xD I think that's the closest I can get to "individuality", because when it comes to emotions and values, I'm constantly scanning the external world for them and monitoring the external emotional state. Often times I might be feeling a certain way only to realize that those aren't really my own emotions, but they're general emotions I've picked up from the people around me. The way you described Fe as being a very none-resistant way of dealing with the world seems to fit well with me I think, especially when I'm actually face to face with the person I am dealing with, I just naturally gravitate towards picking up on their reactions and how they're feeling, as long as it is externally visible in some way. I've also been quick to assume that if an emotion isn't being externalized, than it just isn't there and that did cause a lot of misunderstandings between me and Fi users! Sorry for this long ramble but I felt very compelled to share many points that I relate with because this video touched on a lot of them! Looking forward to seeing more videos on here, take care! :D

[@JoyceMeng22]

Hi!! I'm so glad this video resonated with you. Reading this brings me joy. :) Yes, efficiency is lost on me. I have my own way of doing something, and it's quirky and it can confuse Te users. I'm more concerned with people's needs too; I relate!! Thank you for watching and leaving such a nice comment. ^-^

[@sanjaminic1978]

My 2 cents: 1. why I think that intj/intp friendly, productive debate, could be more than precious is because when we put our inferior functions to sleep (s and f), we are left with a wondrous combination of dominant fuctions that literally mirror one another. That is, you have a Ti,Ne "against" Ni,Te. And I can't think of a more cerebral, thoughtful interaction. Entj and entp might have a similar situation, except that they are both predominantly extroverted. 2. When Michael talks about "linear" Te, I think he's referring to Ni basically taking Te through the process and motions of a premeditated goal, which is how Ni/Te might work together. Te should be more broad and open than Ni. 3. Fi, I find hard to relate to, because it's a pretty inferior function, so it's something that requires processing, yet when in a vulnerable, or even uncomfortable social position, I have my "Fi basics" of protection, persona or facade, with the help of other functions. I can have that gut feeling that something is off, but no way, time, energy or space to figure it out exactly. So just in case, I resort to a few optional defense mechanisms.

[@hfortenberry]

I would LOVE to have a political discussion with y'all.

[@johnknight9150]

I don't know if this is the fight between maybe Te and Fi, but do any other INTJs get slightly annoyed or offended by the term 'efficiency', even though that's what we're doing? Yes, I want things to work better, and with the least energy/fewest resources, but something about the word 'efficiency' feels loathsome to me -- as if I were a box-ticking bureaucrat.

[@someareroses]

Yes

[@someareroses]

Unrelated but "productive" also makes me nutty. It might be the factory line conveyor language that irks me.

[@johnknight9150]

@@someareroses I think a word like "effectiveness" or something similar would be better. The conveyor line thinking is a part of myself I don't like very much, even though I'm good at it.

[@johnknight9150]

@@someareroses Optimisation -- that's the word I'm looking for! I figured out what I'm trying to say. We're not obsessed with efficiency, we're obsessed with optimisation. Efficiency is most often part of that but not necessarily: we might prefer a solution that we feel is more optimal, or perhaps best for everyone, but may be technically less efficient. I could use environmental targets as an example. It would be more efficient to use a certain type of engine, and skip things like catalytic converters and other environmental measures that could choke an engine's performance, but that would violate our moral principles. Likewise, it may be more efficient to treat your staff like robots and not pay for niceties, but it's ghastly to do so. And I dare say an INTJ would make a distinction between the long and short term: it may be more efficient to dehumanise staff and only give them the bare essentials in the short term, but wouldn't it be damaging in the long term, and be ultimately less "efficient" than to have treated your staff well in the first place?

[@someareroses]

@@johnknight9150 I like that. I'm stealing it. Yes, I have always said I want the "best" or to do the best and other types might just think it's unnecessary. They can think I'm being picky or overly exerting myself and/others or even misinterpret it as a status/image thing if they really don't know me. And those perceptions weren't accurate. I got a little closer when I was talking to someone I suspect is an ISFP and were talking about SI and why I think so hard about S pleasures - clothes, food, books etc and I was saying I only have fewer items (relative to people I know) that I select with more care and pay a lot for because I'd rather pay a large amount once and get the most out of it in terms of the structural integrity of the item which ensures it doesn't easily get damaged and have to be replaced. Whereas I know someone else who values volume and variety, is more spontaneous with her purchases and loves a good sale anywhere but her stuff is always falling apart after a few uses. For me it's a drag to sacrifice long-term durability for the short-term convenience. It'd rather spend more effort, time, thought and even money and know that I potentially never have to tend to that need again. Same with work or any problem solving. I don't want to quickly tape the roof so there are no leaks tonight. I want to fix it forever. And if I had it my way it would be built right (read to never fall apart) the first time. Funnily enough my ISFP acquaintance once called me in the middle of fixing the roof with his dad for the third or fourth time because they insist on shoddy DIYs. I hate "solutions" that quickly expire or create other problems as a byproduct. I'm thinking medicines whose side effects are so bad you'd have to take other meds for those too. What a drag. I'd also say the ways I'm willing to sweat first to reap the reward of the optimal outcome can be uncomfortable and I've learned that sometimes other people don't want the same thing so in a group I wouldn't insist. And I love the example you gave because I also believe that people aren't disposable and they need to be thriving to contribute optimally (oop, did I just plug your insight again). I only do the hardcore sterile stereotypical exerting Te to myself and only on occasion. All for the goal of really great long lasting all encompassing processes and products so we can tick it off forever and finally relax (read go back to Ni day dreaming). I enjoyed your reply. I was (pleasantly) surprised you'd given this more thought. I was feeling a bit weird about not responding to the initial response but I had nothing to say whereas now you've given me something to think about. Nice. PS. Hope I wasn't toooooo wordy and I hope I actually correctly understood your point.

[@narchelsin7679]

Very cool conversation. Glad to see an INFJ-INTJ interaction like this. Wanted to see this for a long time. The two types are so similar. But so different. They're really able to get along well, cuz they come from that deep well of Ni. The conversations just seem so genuine. Both are interesting and interested.

[@JoyceMeng22]

Thanks, Narc. :) Yeah INFJ-INTJ interactions are interesting, they are so similar yet different.

[@giacomocasartelli5503]

The cool thing about logic is that it's been logically demonstrated that you can't logically demonstrate that logic is coherent, otherwise that same logic wouldn't work. So I guess you can't actually say your logic is right. It just works. 23:20 (Actually we must assume that logic contains Peano Axioms, those that set the rules of arithmetic, like the concepts of counting and "following"/"previous")

[@getreadywithmemamma6973]

Well, I just got some more insights into the INTJ character I’m writing in my current writing project. If you are only getting the robot side of an INTJ, you just don’t know them and you probably won’t get that chance. But, emotional wells. They in my experiences have been extremely emotionally aware. Even if it’s just fi, which means their empathy is deep just like they can block it out and work.

[@brianbertrand8322]

Very enjoyable conversation. Nicely done Yeah on mistyping... On his original assessment as INFJ...When taking the MBTI, get 2 aspects covered to give yourself the best chance to be properly typed. First, do the 143 forced-choice "professional" MBTI assessment AND have a trained/certified assessor to walk thru a review to use cognitive functions to ensure that any close calls on the dichotomies are properly addressed. If you take just the assessment "at work" and there is a close tie, especially on the J/P dichotomy, then you are risk of being typed wrong, even though you are being given a real MBTI assessment. That might be what happened when he originally got typed as INFJ vs his obvious INTJ best fit. Free online assessments really put you at risk of being mistyped, and that includes the better/free cognitive function assessment versions.

[@ArtinJ]

Love your videos Joyce!!! -INTJ

[@JoyceMeng22]

Thanks so much, Artin!!

[@nineinchnailsforever]

I appreciate and understand Te more now. You and Michael did a great job of communicating and describing your differences. Thanks!

[@JoyceMeng22]

Thank you for watching!

[@NavesNiche]

what a great conversation! next guest over - Frank Jamesss 🙏

[@kedellguevara2745]

This is wonderful seeing the contrast between INTJ and INFJ. Would love to see INFJ vs ENTP conversation like this and how they reprioritize Fe and Ti.

[@hfortenberry]

Yeah, that bias that if you don't see explicit feeling then it doesn't exist would be analogous to thinking Ti did not exist unless it was being expressed as Te. Introverted functions are even more rich and deep than extroverted functions so are really quite the opposite of non-existent

[@DeemaA-me6xl]

Hey Joyce!! I’m so curious to see how each type experience love, intimacy, breakups, etc. could their be videos surrounding this?! You’re doing such a great job!

[@JoyceMeng22]

Absolutely!! I'll make some relationship and intimacy themed videos in the future. :)

[@hfortenberry]

I think when Michael was saying you go to Te stuff like "how do I destroy this person", I think he meant destroy the person conversationally, as in go after their premises and crush their arguments. INTJs do not "destroy people". :-) But I personally have told people I "will crush you" in the context of a Te discussion. I was talking about how I can explain a concept far better than they could. They were arguing with me and they were totally wrong and they have inferior thinking so I knew I'd crush them but I didn't want to make them feel insecure about it so I kept holding off but they kept pushing and they were being stubborn so I just said "look, if we keep going on this I'm going to crush you and there is no way you will be able to keep up". They were so offended and they said "well I find it (referring to Te) boring so don't want to keep up anyway. I was like, "okay". And I changed the subject. lol

[@Skyyyreaper]

Personally I've told people I "will crush you" when playing games that I'm certain that I'd win, or that at least I'm better than whoever I'm playing with, it's just funny seeing people secure that they will win and just destroying them effortlessly, I'm aware of how quickly I can adapt and understand most games and identify patterns to win, as they say "knowledge is power" xD

[@rachelk4805]

As sn ENFP, I don't remember the last time I deleted an email...

[@susanclow3173]

I certainly was missed as an INFJ because it is clear to me and several other people that I am an INFP.

[@maytownbrendi]

I relate to Michael more than any of the other INTJ’s. All of this 💯

[@verntoews6937]

Most physicists being intj rely on linear progressive logic I think Einstein was infj almost intj His peers had concerns that he didn't always use the linear scientific method,but consider the secondary Sanguine temperament of the Infj who has a gift to make strides jumping ahead of the linear process and often correct baffling the more logical types INFJ melancholy dominant Sanguine secondary INTJ melancholy dominant and phlegmatic secondary and mainstream accepted scientific method The Infj do have some special gifts though

[@mjade1673]

Wow🤩 you two are information fire together 👏. This is awesome! Ty soo much🥰

[@JoyceMeng22]

Our pleasure!

[@hfortenberry]

When we talk about "logic", then I think of ACTUAL true logic, which is the study of the evaluation of arguments. Logic is the system or principles of reasoning applicable to any branch of knowledge or study. It is the formal methods for representing and evaluating arguments and reasoning and is often used in philosophy ("I think, therefore I am"). It deals with deductive vs inductive reasoning, soundness and validity, premises, etc. My best friend/roommate in grad school took Logic and she was a straight-A student in undergrad biology but struggled with her logic class. She would come home and be stressed about it. But she really liked it. She identified as an INTP but she seemed a lot like an INFP to me, a really brilliant, sweet INFP. But yeah, logic is highly mathematical and pretty difficult supposedly if you aren't good at math. I never took it myself although I was really tempted but you only get so many electives and I chose all biology and stats courses. If you remember mathematical proofs from geometry those use logic. They were difficult due to the level of rigor required by the use of logic. So when people talk to me about using logic in anything but this formal sense, they sound ignorant to me. They are throwing the word around without understanding what it means. Ti users at least and thinkers in general should know what real logic is. Here are some good examples of logic: examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-logic.html

[@linyenchin6773]

No.

[@mjade1673]

Micheal is 🤭💗

[@menageriegardenshoppe]

I have spiderweb logic that I wrap up in. INFJ

[@malibustacey3870]

The first time I undertook the MBTI test, I scored INFJ. I was all messed up due to Covid and a break-up... around the same period, I retook the test in my own language, and I scored INTJ straight. As you were saying you need to nail the functions, I thought I was INFJ, whereas Fi makes more sense about how I process emotions. From the outside, I might look like an all-together person, although I suffer from extreme GAD. People usually do not get much about my inner state, and I can read a room, even though someone doesn't display many outwardly emotions. Back to the Te, the way I look at it, it's basically 'on it', responding quickly to intellectual stimuli. Looking at you guys, I think I resonate more with Michael, and I now realise why people find me a bit intimidating. I guess it's the Ni, Te and Fi mix thrown there. My Fi is quite acute as I'm a 4w5; however, I don't deal well with my emotions. The Fi is a ticking time bomb ready to explode. I usually allow it to do so once I'm comfortably on my own. Along the same lines, I found certain social clues being completely stupid, I hate systemic errors, I get depressed when I don't see a valid intellectual set of stimuli. I have a deep passion for terminologies, so if I start to study a new topic, I want to nail the related terminologies (and, therefore, their definitions). I'm a lifelong learning supporter... and in fact, just now, I'm practising my second language through your vid.

[@linyenchin6773]

Hey lil cous. Your oration has a fine cadence and clarity. The frequency and placement of your giggles, shows a defensive security mechanism used as "ice breaker" for your own nervousness, almost as of you are saying "forgive me" while trying to shake off discomfort. The frequency of head bobbing~nodding reads "I am here supporting you, you don't have to worry about my sincerity."-Oh!! 16:01 is where you explain the cause of this fear. Forgive and overcome. Nervousness about obliviousness, will not grant greater perception, it just restricts what lottle you have while making you more trapped in imagination rather than more coherent in perception. Your patience and speed of processing is better than mine(but I black + chinese = reason why you got the higher I.Q). My "thing," if I have one, is not intelligence aka imagination but wisdom. I black n slow 😁 You seem to have a strong desire for cultivation of character. May your qi-flow glow with divine radiance... because #Giant #Robot #Lives #Matter. 🎶🌌🎄Merry Christmas🎄🌌🎶

[@divergent_foxx]

Well..when I go through sensory overload I cannot put on that cold face that I could say I may do in another situation. I think that's more...se and I cant handle that alot so if I'm experiencing overload it's more like a Bruce banner. Hulk. Being a mom at home I experience that more than I would like and have to go be alone bc the se is so hypersensitive to sound and light. Also maybe being on the spectrum adds to that but I think that's when it can kinda switch for me but I relate to every other part Michael explains on just about every video. Excuse me if terms are not correct. I've been learning alot and taking lots of notes. Thanks soo much for this.

[@Maria-ir1wq]

Thanks to this episode I realized I really want to hear Joyce's thoughts more often I'm really intrigued by her insights :)lol

[@JoyceMeng22]

Thank you, María! 💕 I've been trying to speak more in videos. :) I appreciate the encouragement!!

[@icanrelate]

ENTJs will "destroy" people as well. I loved your reaction lol and his hesitance about admitting/divulging/confirming that lol it's a last resort, but people sleep on the Ni/Te Te/Ni (those who don't understand how we operate) lol I wonder how other types "handle their business" lol

[@snicolek6590]

I admire those who use Fe. Life would be much easier! I fake Fe by using my Te, especially at work. My Te tells me to just put my own feeling aside because it just makes sense it this context. I'm ENFP, btw.

[@VV-ik7sy]

Anyone else notice only being truly comfortable crying around Fi users?

[@ac-jn1iq]

So interesting. I am on the fence about infj and intj for my own personal type. I took cognitive function test and got 82% Ni. I was leaning more towards infj, but the power hierarchy thing has me questioning…. I, myself, am hyper aware of all hierarchies and have this urge to tear them down and rearrange things…I will neglect to reveal this to others, but it will definitely consume my thoughts. The church institution is an example of this for me. I’m constantly dissecting and rearranging how it should be ordered in my own head.

[@dragon_nova_luna]

i relate to what he says so much. i hate the incompetence of the hierarchy as well.

[@linyenchin6773]

Spinal alignment and breathflow defines perception. Try to drop muscular tension~rigidity yet sit upright and breathe. Be Still and know.

[@VividBites]

This is an old comment but could you elaborate more?

[@moneymanagement24]

INTJ Understand what others need/want INFJ - Understand what type of person they are dealing with They make a great team because of these examples in movies Severus Snape - INTJ ( Harry Potter ) Albus Dumbledore - INFJ ( Harry Potter ) Don Vito Corleone - INFJ ( The Godfather ) Michael Corleone - INTJ ( The Godfather )

[@soliloquy222]

Wow great video Joyce! Gave a lot of insight, thanks:)

[@JoyceMeng22]

You're so welcome! Glad you liked watching @Solipsism 😊

[@deuteronomy3162]

Absolutely amazing!

[@ghostofpast550]

Understanding social hierarchy seems more social instinct thing than cognative functions thing

[@amber7825]

Omg he stresses me out just listening to his lists 😅😅😅

[@verntoews6937]

INFJ more people focused INTJ more things focused

[@jennahudson3420]

Being an INFJ it’s interesting to witness the Ni linked with Fe or Te! Seeing Ni linked to Te is fun but seeing Ni linked with Fi can look selfish to me lol.

[@jerlinej3516]

Does Michael have Blast and Sleep in the top 2? Based on what he said at 10:05 about externalizing information (blast) for energy management (sleep), that was a great way of putting it, emptying his mind of things that don't need to be there

[@JoyceMeng22]

Not sure about his OP type! I'm leaning more towards SB/BS saviour as of this moment. Although Michael self-types as SC saviour, so I could be wrong. I agree with your analysis, Jerline! Great job noticing that

[@narchelsin7679]

@17:17 I wouldn't say the degree of "not realizing the depth of their introverted counterpart" is necessarily the same for all extroverted functions

[@yoshiperspectives4880]

Nope! Water is the specific word to refer to H2O in it's liquid state! That's why whe have the three words Water, Ice, and Cloud! The three states of H2O! 😊😊 Water is only a liquid!😊

[@yc2109]

Reminder that @countertype needs to renew his passport this month

[@TEAMHYBRID007]

At 24 minutes in Michael is defining water as a liquid and a solid but it is also a gas

[@brendavanetten3877]

Question.... Are INTJs as gracious like INFJs in their bodylanguage? Or is this graciousness typical INFJ?

[@aliisakalma8245]

Hi joyce thankyou for your content i love it.I wish i could infodump you more but i have to take a break from typing, i wish i could talk to you, but i also dont want to be interviewed, damn. OK so I'll just say i watcged this vid for few min and you talk abt power and i have an infj friend who also doesn't look much for power dynamics which seems to be true for her, and i think i have always seen them, most of them (conventional hierarchies in this society like thin white neurotypical etc ideals) are dumb and i rebel against them but there are also many i can play a part in. It's a bit odd that you wouldn't notice them because infj does have a strong (although not obvious like stp:s) link to the extroverted sensing. But i don't say youre lying, just that i got surprised lol. I'm in this position where i am extremely diplomatic and yet the overwhelming power of Se is coming out in its own ways, sometimes i find myself wanting to be a boss and challenge people to the point of looking like an enneagram 8. Like i definitely can enjoy power. (The original type was 4w5 with a heavy 5 as a kid but 5 overgrew in late teens and the 8 psyche came in around early 20s due to horrible life experiences, i don't believe enneagram chances willynilly but I cant deny how much there 3 have been up and down my psyche) Phew ok i stop.

[@Z3X5N7]

He Totally looks like Reed Richards / Mister Fantastic .

[@Thilosophocl3s]

Fi anchors Fe... Duh. Energy management is an NJ, introverted intuition thing.

[@danab172]

What is "looping"?

[@mirsaes]

Getting stuck between 2 functions.

[@NicStride]

9:15 Energy dominance! :D

[@JoyceMeng22]

lol!! This is about his OP animal stack right? =]

[@SAR2]

Can you tell us about michael Y Instagram account?

[@JoyceMeng22]

He doesn't have an Instagram but he has a KZbin channel called Countertype!

[@NomadOfTheWoods8]

sorry i took things out of contexts in real world

[@glennrochemusic]

Please write the meanings to the intials across the bottom of the screen every second time you reference them. My peeve is a lack of clarity in a description or the arrogance of expecting all others to know your 'in-speak' if watching any of your videos for the first time. Quite meaningless without a legend of meanings to refer to. Sorry but there is a non-disclosure that explains why INTJs get a cold or incompassionate reputation. No one is going to do a 'course' on the initials just to watch these videos for the first time. Communication housekeeping really.