Information war: Moscow’s messaging puts France on the back foot in Africa • FRANCE 24 English

[@iheanyiekeke4941]

Africa respects those that respect us

[@Thed538dhsk]

No nation respects the African continent not even her own. Nations want to pillage African continent of resources, culture, and people just like before but with new skins and flags

[@fada3399]

There are three things that France needs to do#Leave Africa alone, Leave Africa alone ,and leave Africa alone. Europe should have done the same for those countries like how they've been doing for Ukraine. Training and supporting their militaries ,so they can do the fight themselves.

[@sunboy1558]

Why would they leave their cash cow They don't want to leave because this is were they steal their riches to build their Paris ,for centuries Their thievery grandparents did it,the fathers did it, now the grandchildren want a piece of our wealth too and this is were it stop we are ready for anything,we will kick them out of everywhere in Africa

[@taharka3897]

Absolutely 💯 agreed

[@chankiSlim]

great comment!

[@oceanwave4502]

Wonder why there is a big Caucasian community in South Africa? That's the left-over of colonization in the past. Wonder why UK still is in the possession of Falkland which is far far away? Again, legacy of colonization.

[@reubenwest5605]

✊✊✊🙏

[@patrickdayton2080]

The problems with France is that it is still using the same old tricks and colonial mentally and failing to take into account the changing environment

[@maliksy7746]

Absolutely

[@fereydoonbesharati7945]

Because they are retard. They haven’t got it the world is changing, the new world order France is in the back wagon. Behind USA

[@stevenwilliams3015]

France leave Africa alone. You have done a lot harm over there for so long

[@bitter_truth8646]

Same with the uk and usa

[@Maria63756]

Same with America

[@modibomagassouba150]

Having Russia as a strategic partner in terms of security has given wings to development and lasting peace in certain african countries such as Mali

[@Aan_allein]

😂

[@dale596]

Hope Russia will arm and train those African troops to defend and protect their country..

[@abdulimraan2706]

Maybe Ramzan will come soon setting up his own private Army

[@iheanyiekeke4941]

France does not have a messaging problem but credibility problem

[@dugadi77]

I listened objectively as the panelists shared their thoughts, one thing they didn't mention was the reason why France is so desperate to be in Africa.

[@chankiSlim]

The Vibranium!

[@mkodyglobalsouthsoldier]

Pay Mr France We hv goods Pay cash send receipt along request We confirm On da way the delivery 🚚

[@robwin8864]

France is a leach, which sucks its sustenance from Africa.

[@urbanescapescondos8775]

😂

[@chankiSlim]

@@robwin8864 Most of Europe and America!

[@stateservant]

This is very funny, as if they pretend they don't know why people in Africa don't like them being there.

[@realdaybreaker8013]

Africa is being offered the following Russia = Security China = Prosperity

[@bmmacoh3387]

You forgot democracy and human rights from the others.

[@knowstitches7958]

.and France looting

[@lisadsouza5061]

Africa and Asia can't forget how russia helped them against colonialist

[@safaristudioproductionhama4973]

She has no idea what she's talking about. Africa don't need a message from France. What we need France to do is get out of Africa and stop controlling our financial institutions.

[@socialanarchy081]

Who would've thought that people might hold a grudge over being conquered and exploited for hundreds of years.

[@angrycrypto465]

Exactly. And still being messed with even to present.

[@Boubacar2305]

If The French junta feels offended by a fictional movie, that says a lot about her guiltiness of looting and plundering the African ressources.

[@charlesdokubo1683]

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over agin and expecting a different result, if the French army has been there of decades and can’t get the job done, it’s only fair to try something new, I guess. Have they been there just out of the goodness of their heart or there is something else to gain ?

[@60deathman]

uranium and other minerals

[@thesixth2330]

@@60deathman Because they really need uranium right?

[@raphaelkamono7]

That's a profound statement bro.

[@Dirtdogdone]

You call it russian messaging, the world calls it history.

[@thesixth2330]

They do? LOL

[@chinysukainepyobytt4506]

Who owns Hollywood they are Russophobics

[@thesixth2330]

@@chinysukainepyobytt4506 Can you prove that or is that just your opinion? In the 60 and 70's the FBI worried that Hollywood had been infiltrated and was generally supportive of the USSR. Hollywood is amoral, they just want money. If their audience wants to see Russians as bad guys they'll do that, if German, that'll do that. Like good capitalist, they follow their customers needs. With that being said, the production companies in St. Petersburg and Moscow are told to portray the US and NATO as enemies and fascist, regardless of what the people want. They (Russian Producers) also like money but their customer is Putin, not the audience.

[@АлександрИванов-ш2я2п]

@@thesixth2330 a beautiful fairy tale. Hollywood doesnt give people what they want; Hollywood tells people what to want. Cinderella with a black transgender aunt failed at the box office - this is clearly not what people want (so far).

[@migueldoriste5129]

Africa unite

[@tangabiang5282]

Why do you discuss African issues without Africans, but mistly nonAfrican exoerts? This is a token of the issue at stakes. It's not about France, but the while Western world, including the USA, Great Britain Germany, Canada, e5c..

[@maxwellmakenzi]

Lova Rinell is African, she is Madagascan or you wanted the others ones.😉

[@samtheharvester6188]

I know they bring in these useless people all the time.

[@shattaclevewright4379]

@@maxwellmakenzi Yes the AFRICAN WARRIORS. I will say it since everyone is afraid

[@maxwellmakenzi]

@@shattaclevewright4379 fair enough.

[@casteretpollux]

France 24 does this all the time. Poor quality, biased panels leaving out the people who actually know and have a right to speak.

[@issadiawara38]

God bless my country Mali 🇲🇱 God bless humanity 🤗🙏🏾

[@nicolepaloms3509]

You could simply say: bless Africa. Africans should come together.

[@patrickdayton2080]

They are suffering from superiority complex

[@chimaihems3030]

Dear France, as you are leaving , don't for get to take your religion with you

[@samtheharvester6188]

Thank you. I think that is the first thing Africans need to give back

[@alieusanneh9886]

Haha so interesting France please take your religion makes no sense to us

[@stevemills4852]

Why do these countries like france seem to have selective memories in regards to the African countries they seem like we should forget the atrocities they committed during their colonial regime days we are tired of being robbed and destroyed by their intervention which only benefits them whilst they systematically keep us in conflict with our selves

[@ibrahimmassaquoi3725]

France had the capacity to end terrorism in Mali but refused to do it from 2013 to date. Does it not make sense for Mali to seek a partnership with another power?

[@williamdavis9562]

Finally the reality of France's actions in Africa are coming to light and this commentator is calling it "false information." lol

[@furuwrecker1420]

Yeah, because Russia's actions in Africa are much better... lol (Sarcasm)

[@dipkis8965]

@@furuwrecker1420 atleast they ain't making anyone pay any colonial tax. Lol

[@furuwrecker1420]

@@dipkis8965 lol, yeah, sure. Wagnerites there are saints and "protecting" Africans for free.

[@williamdavis9562]

@@furuwrecker1420 How many genocides has Russia pushed an armed in Africa? Are they stealing resources from Africa? Are they installing corrupt leaders in Africa? Are they funding an arming Jihadi groups to cause chaos in Africa? No they aren't, that is what France has been doing the past 200 years there and continues to do. Russia's foreign policy, they've ruined the lives of untold millions of people in central Asia, the Caucasus and eastern Europe. But to compare what they're doing in Africa with France is nothing short of sheer and utter insanity. No one can match France for crimes against humanity in Africa. They are the champions leagues winners on that front.

[@rbb.828]

@@dipkis8965 how long have they been there? 5 minutes?

[@maria.and2265]

Africa will have to keep learning one lesson, anyone European, Asian or Russian is there for their interests not for Africa.

[@williamdavis9562]

@Maria yes everyone is out for their own interests. But some are looking for win win solutions while others are used to the slave vs master mentality. Yes obviously the Russians and Chinese have interests in China but they don't come with the baggage of expecting the Africans to roll over and do anything they want like the French. There will obviously be a give and take involved.

[@maria.and2265]

@@williamdavis9562 The give and take as in more take by a few via corruption, doesn't involve the majority of the people though. The history of Angola isn't really an exception though the $34 Billion Angola has in loans from China, that is an issue. Monetary debt.... is still enslavement though of a different sort, for generations, not just one. Angola isn't the lone country in Africa that has debt to China either. They trade their resources to pay the debt and leave the country with an environmental disaster. Not, in the long run, a win-win situation.

[@furuwrecker1420]

@@jimwal2008 Pretty much

[@johntogo8608]

Well said

[@landz2228]

Everyone hates Africans

[@iheanyiekeke4941]

None of them are talking about past criminal activities in Africa.

[@emmanuelgondodza7460]

I wish this presenter had invited mama Aricana Chihombori Quao to discuss this France in Africa issue.

[@maqantjoli4172]

Ohhh, how I wish, a lot of people would be educated on reality 🤞🏾

[@samtheharvester6188]

😂 😂 😂 They don't want to hear the truth

[@ChuObii]

Please France focus on your country, thanks for all your "HELP", we can go the rest of the way without your disruption disguised as support. Au revoir!!

[@theNzuri]

All we have to say “France leave Africa “.

[@Sziasztok742]

very good work! Russians came as partners, not as French colonialists.

[@sebastianwrites]

Have you even listened to what this programme said? Seriously! France was there trying to help Mali and Burkino Faso fight for their democracies against militants. Yet you are trying to defend Russia, a 'dictatorship' which is trying to take your democracy? And this programme just said Russia is taking advantage of Africa, and spreading disinformation! And then you 'ignore' all of that, and just repeat what Putin has told you? Talk about being "brainwashed?" And if you think that you can trust Russia, a dictatorship... which is murdering the children of Ukraine, as it did in Syria, and Chechnya, then you are an 'utter fool?'

[@landz2228]

We shall see it not a written book yet,

[@samuelkebede6204]

Why is African countries allow foreign troops set foot in their sovereign territory? Why? Especially former colonial power? What were they expecting to happen? The only way for Africa to stand in its two foot if Africa became self sufficient.

[@niburu1508]

Or part of BRICS

[@williamdavis9562]

@Samuel Kebede, what happens is nations like France through bribery, coercion and various other methods create chaos in the country and try to install corrupt leaders who will do their bidding. They also support armed groups which will attack the governments of these leaders and then force these leaders to invite them into the country as "defenders" of the government. That is pretty much how it's done and how France is able to continue to keep military in these nations and plunder their resources. But it seems like the jig is up and France is slowly being kicked out of Africa one nation at a time.

[@qaissharar3110]

because africa is very rich in minerals and west cant stand it. Gaddafi tried to free Africans but look what happened...

[@dearlife7771]

Exactly

[@dearlife7771]

@@niburu1508 That not your business, is nato terrorist not around

[@bellohadiza9414]

France most lost influences and control in Africa because of the bad bad bad things Paris is doing in the continents said majority of people and leaders from the continent period .

[@yoyodebaby9017]

Let be honest France is loosing ground under their feets in West Africa. They were a say about France presence in the Sahel back in the day by the anglo-saxon : the french rooster is loosing himself in the desert sand. France should know that the sustainability of her relation toward Africa there is no short task. Niagale is right. First there is a monetary issue discussion’s should be made regarding a fairer agreement because of the boom demographic and all his consequences in terms of migration . Secondary from this economic unbalanced situation the situation create a need to a more diverse multilateral trade relations. For instance in order to balance the money exodus from Africa toward China Banque de France have to cover unbalanced trading accounts. France should shift their policy in Africa fast otherwise France will loose everything the peg monetary system and the diplomatic influence.

[@leratogoodecenmotaungall461]

im from SA and we love Russia

[@obeahman6286]

We get the impression that u do 🤔

[@abdulimraan2706]

@@obeahman6286 any problem?

[@obeahman6286]

@@abdulimraan2706 Not one that cannot be resolved. All i wish for is that Nigeria & Zimbabwe to be liked as well and that somehow their blackness could be overlooked. We know this hate is a European agenda masquerading as nationalism, most pronounced in the African country with the largest European population. It's just not US [Africans].

[@abdulimraan2706]

@@obeahman6286 ok brother

[@shangothunder1055]

Your clowns.

[@mariadasilva7917]

How Mali became one of poorest country in the World even in Africa. Where are all the Gold belong to Mansa Muça and belong To Mali/ Africa.?

[@iheomandiigbo7758]

Africa does not need France, France need Africa to survive. what was the offence of Thomas Sankara?

[@Wongrich6]

When you're they and nothing changes in the country, so let others countries go in and see if anything changes like France🤔no development when they're in Africa, have you see the country after so many years😭not going they for human rights and democracy🙄🍺

[@pedroramalho6168]

Russia is trying to recolonised Africa, and is Using the westerners and forms colonialists, specially France dark patty in Africa. Russia went to replace France in Africa that's why it is playing African people, this is the geopolitical game, I regret my African brothers they're not seeing that, because of the colonial story, that why they went another new colonial power, because they can't afford themselves!

[@ahmedmusa9821]

The talk could have been better "what France loses if France is not in Africa"?

[@dlfields8429]

With the absence of western influence in Africa watch the rapid progress in development.

[@oseebarose79]

France is a single country.to have such a voice in Africa. France keep you politics and values with your self.

[@alieusanneh9886]

Exactly as simple as that and manage your lesbianism and Gays!

[@nukiolbartes6279]

In the spirit of Women's day, these two women shown class, knowledge, wisdom, eloquence thousand years ahead of the other two male colleagues.

[@JBEMultimediamadrid]

If you cant speak English why not just speak French and let it be translated to English for you. I barely understand what the lady on glasses is saying

[@jentulj9611]

May be is your listening skill that is poor... You have to learn to listen 🎶 to people with different accent than the one that you're accustomed to, dear...

[@lovereligion2258]

Lmao i swear thats exactly what i said i have headache for trying to understand ..i was waiting for some kind of translation i guess they didnt give a f what she was saying

[@lovereligion2258]

​@@jentulj9611learn to listen ppl with different accent ?? Wtf are you talking about that doesnt even make sense ...you must be delusional punk log out

[@ClaytonOmwanga]

You are on your own🤣

[@johnroach1101]

Learn to speak French

[@ancientcoins7332]

France hasn't engaged enough in its former colonial regions in all areas it should have done more in terms of economic cohesion. It's army had very little success against these Islamic militias. This is totally the fault of France to let Russia take its place in west Africa.

[@spiderone4]

They had little success because they did not want to have success. Divide and conquer.

[@sunboy1558]

There are not there to fight the jihadist but to steal fcking bandits

[@MakeNoise280]

Even without Russia Africa DOES NOT need France and the same thing is true for the rest of the western world we don’t mind a fair trade no problem but we must lead. We have others to do business with in a win win situation. Africa is not there to be controlled and don’t ask Africa who to be friends with stay in your countries and take care of your citizens they need help.

[@afelder2363]

Insane a movie get more recognition than real life.

[@rykson161]

Streisand Effect … jajajajajaja The French knows the truth , they know many people do not watch the news ! The French minister just did Streisand effect onto the situation in Africa …’

[@haskalah]

Colonial oppressors vs something new

[@cobaltbomba4310]

Africa gives respects and gets respects!

[@mhleuro8464]

As a neutral on this issue, I found much of the discussion was rehashing of old (frankly unsolvable) post-colonial relationship issues. However, the final recommendations of the two panelists are on point for the time being (I,e. Focus on efforts with the civil society). But the question will then simply become - Can France stay away even as the political situation deteriorates further (it will)? I don’t demonize France’s intentions reflexively like some however it can appear at times that France has an innate need to retain its influence in Africa to see itself as one of the ‘global players.’ You see this at times in its push for ‘geopolitical Europe.’ The ideas may be correct in the end but the messenger may have too much baggage to be the voice in the front. An impasse.

[@lovereligion2258]

Lmao my 5 year old brother make a lot more sense than you ...are you in 1st grade

[@abdulimraan2706]

France is not a global player but a surrogate of America

[@patrickdayton2080]

France did not learn from losing Asia and Americans colonials but still continue to repeat the same mistakes over and over.The same thing will happen to France in Africa

[@ashsharma9760]

France don't produce results but Russian shows results on their 1st day assignment!!

[@DogonChild]

Lovely lova with all the right energy ♥️🖤💚. And Bagayoko understood the assignment sitting pretty ♥️

[@syrusmathew432]

It's high time for France to change Tact and work with former African Colonies as partners and not continue depriving them of their resources. Let them support their growth and everything should fall in place

[@rykson161]

But they will not ! The western countries want to actively keep Africa poor and so they the “ whites “ get to steal and benefit for free by exploiting Africans!

[@sunboy1558]

You don't get it do you,France is not welcome in Africa,watch us get rid of the French language as well

[@samtheharvester6188]

France 🇫🇷 is going to pay back every thing it has stolen from Africa.

[@Megaliberator-mt4dc]

Why is France so sentimental about being ejected?

[@migueldoriste5129]

Just one Africa please

[@alexlazar4738]

i couldn't catch what anybody was saying. I was just watching the two pretty women.

[@Dunno-h8r]

Same

[@dipkis8965]

The ridiculous French accent🤦🏾‍♂️🚮

[@coin9007]

😂😂😂😂

[@marcjean4995]

France needs to pay Reparations to ALL former colonies. Liquidate those fancy castles and jewels. even the Baggetts must be handed over 😂

[@sivaperumalsivaperumal3480]

Well done beautiful Russia

[@Alfador42]

lol

[@nukiolbartes6279]

37:10 the protesters in south africa looked legit! 😅

[@ar123..._]

Very disappointed with this no one is addressing the real issue and the source of the problem, where there Africans available to contribute to the conversation? So that maybe we could understand what is the source of the problem.

[@TaTa-ce1kq]

After having your national assets stripped by your colonial ruler you will rather trust someone else.

[@abietc2884]

I'm not from France or West Africa even I understand why

[@Birthday92sex]

Where you from hahahaha

[@targetx1733]

How good is France, for Africa?

[@timboslyce1290]

Isn’t it a statue of Napoleon Foot on the head of Ramses?? This platform is one of the many many reasons how it could never work moving forward

[@ellojallowjallow1734]

France have to change its foreign policy is not good for Africans in France I am one of them. France was my dream country and I risk my life to come to France,now I am in France. I follow all the procedures, and I was working 💪 for contract CDE. Now I am blocked from working since 9 months ago. Now my life is getting difficult and difficult. And even since I am in France I never do one thing bad.I am trying to be strong but is really difficult for me

[@CHAPPAJANVISION]

France forgot about slavery and colonization

[@worldpeace7725]

Condem the truth haa

[@Embetey2008]

I believe all of you forget that African people and countries have been supported in their struggles against European colonisation.

[@rikondjakaramata5678]

For France there's no way out except to abandon the Colonial Dedt and the Pact of Colonization in Africa and leave Africa France is not needed. France have no sovereign right over Africa.

[@evansokeyo3796]

It worsening don't hope for any good relationship

[@mkodyglobalsouthsoldier]

03:02 France armed the rebels To stay longer and loot while using excuse we fighting the nee insurgents

[@conradknight1181]

Why don't France get out of Africa, and stop draining these countries of their resources,

[@julietkumasenu196]

What Africa want is France to be out of our continent completely.

[@leoanderson4637]

Real bias reporting from that guy.,raphael the 2 lady's are trying thier best

[@lovereligion2258]

Thank you so much finaly somone listening very well

[@coin9007]

Yes

[@gamerjohnnytv1827]

Such an intelligent panel, wonderfull show.

[@The2NuttyG]

Get FRANCE out of AFRICA, and take along with you BRITAIN, BELGIUM AND GERMANY! WE NEED NEW PROGRESSIVE PARTNERS WHO HAS OUR BEST INTERESTS AT HEART

[@Chips505]

Leave them alone. They sincerely believe their problem is France. Even though I think its not. Nigeria and most of Anglophone speaking countries have been on their own and they have pretty much the same outcomes. So, let them be.

[@coin9007]

Every African dream

[@shalomnetwork9328]

Zoo niggrea is not a country but a evil white racist antisemitic business of evil Britain,

[@Freetourforyou]

Where the anger towards France is coming from?? Are you kidding me? Every African countries hate their colonial masters and France has continued his colonialism in these regions till now causing more instability while acting in public like they are there to help. Russia and China are in Africa for their own interest too but Africans have more confidence in these two countries because they treat us like partners not like their slaves exploiting our resources. I blame the african Union who has remained mute and allow these EU powers to continue to deal in Africa

[@bmjnation6351]

NIAGALE BAGAYOKO, the brightest in the panel 🌹🌹🌹🌹

[@dbcooper28]

We can thanks the arrogance of Macron for the situation

[@mariadasilva7917]

Os filhos de Africa um dia vão libertar Àfrica Deus ñ vai deixar Àfrica( berço da humanidade) ser explorada por muito tempo. Louvado seja a Deus nosso pai. Àfrica è continente mãe e quem ñ respeita a mão ñ respeita a Deus.

[@pouwakaruwhiu8349]

Good bye France good bye America 👋

[@charlievardar1330]

After everything said and shown here, we have to complete honest - the Defence Minister was quite polite, and... it's always a good idea to make sure that fictional characters have nothing to do with reality, especially if the comment comes from a far-right activists. South Africa have spent 20 years waiting to join the security council, and they are a British colony, so I suppose they will just stay forever in this place - keep waiting. And Disney... And America... One cannot ever stop being impressed with the wide variety of ways to express your racism in the US - instead of inventing new and Black super heroes sending them to Africa, how about make Magnito and Professor Xavier in the colour of the very same people who have inspired the creation of this characters - Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr?

[@charleswilson7432]

Right on sisters

[@allthingsafrica1111]

I saw you on Twitter. Still loving the white men destroying Africa? When will you wake up and realize that France is a threat to africa so is the west😊

[@charleswilson7432]

@@allthingsafrica1111 you have it all wrong. I support Africa 100%. Right on sisters meaning I agree with what the sisters are saying.

[@BeatTheDrumEnt]

The relationship France practices is exploitations.

[@daudhassan9377]

As we are African we like Rushian country because it's loyal and we like loyalties

[@paololuckyluke2854]

So she is saying the Russian military is unfairly depicted in film?

[@fibefibe9394]

What you should know is that Africa turned the page, but it's like you have difficulty to accept it. It has nothing to do with Russia.

[@tademolade1629]

Talk all you want,people are tired of French presence in Africa which hasn't yielded any good results whatsoever.

[@gregorywilson2124]

The first problem you have is with nouns. Africa is a continent. You have to start asking the question about countries not continents. The second is your history of plundering. That one is hard to reconcile.

[@georgeebassar2165]

You ask me I will give you the right answer I study this for twenty-five years. And this is our doing, the pen and papers work.

[@oceanwave4502]

Instead of spending billions on military, which is futile, France should have spent on healthcare for its people as well as salaries for healthcare workers.

[@williamdavis9562]

If France were totally kicked out of Africa their entire economy would collapse. Which is why they're willing to use extremely dirty and underhanded tactics which kill thousands just to keep that influence.

[@rbb.828]

It’s not either/or. The correct answer is all of the above. They can have it all 🙂 I hate false dichotomies, especially from anti-western trolls trying to whip up division.

[@TrxmpBrownNosersBgone]

Everyone wishes they could demilitarize but every time we go in that direction theres always a bad actor to take advantage of our aloofness. So no I would not suggest France cut military spending.

[@williamdavis9562]

@@rbb.828 I hate irrational people who make wild claims like thinking France is a terrible influence in Africa. That's almost like saying "getting cancer completely out of my body" is a false dichotomy. Pointing out simply reality isn't being anti western, it isn't being a troll nor is it whipping up division.

[@rbb.828]

@@williamdavis9562 you don’t understand my comment well enough to effectively respond

[@TheTurbulence312]

Lova is very beautiful and charismatic she had me smiling all the way thru.

[@DogonChild]

She warms my heart with all that and more

[@Agboka]

You mean the "chicken head" called analyst?

[@Boubacar2305]

Two poor analysts but Yagalé is a beter deal as beauty standard. I pass Lova, not my choice. 😂 😂 😂

[@ClaytonOmwanga]

Hyena detected. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DogonChild]

@@Boubacar2305 for me it's not the look but the knowledge and how she dominated

[@roystonrichard4758]

Just keep out. Please................! Too many of our people are dying. Leave. If you want to help Africa just leave.

[@georgeebassar2165]

Free Charles Taylor former Liberia 🇱🇷 President.

[@amc8437]

What about the holding of 14 African countries currency reserves in France, address that. Why force countries to have their currencies printed in France.

[@gashumbamichael8846]

Tell me one thing of value you have done for Africa, for example what technology you have transferred to Africa.

[@jerrytoney7217]

Papa Bear ! If you can find the time . Help the Syrian ppl plz , ty sir ! I tried to get message to Xi but haven't seen him there . May have to chastise him for this lol . Thank you again sir !

[@DarElBarka]

Lol!

[@abdulimraan2706]

How do you know they are not there.We know America put sanctions on Syria while occupying 3 thirds of their country and stealing their oil and wheat

[@jerrytoney7217]

@@abdulimraan2706 don't know about all that ! I do know what i hear and see now . If you see death trying to take me , i don't care what your color or religion is , help me ! I wounder if they have any satellite pictures of what made that cavern !

[@ellojallowjallow1734]

To my thinking the problems between France 🇫🇷 and Africa,some of the problems are coming from French foreign policy. I think some Africans in France are facing problems with the French law that people think is wrong. So this people have their families in Africa 🌍

[@kb_rtd1430]

The problem with Africa is they fought for independence from the colonialists and when they got it, they don't want to lead but act like the colonialists that they fought against and colonize their own people and recreate the same environment they fought against, but to benefit them. Look at the one from West Africa that owns multiple Ferraris and the ones that buy multiple mansions abroad using funds they came across based on their positions in government while their subjects languish in poverty. Why can't Africa grow up and claim a seat at the table? They learned about th French revolution and spend their lives trying to build the same environment that triggered the revolution way back when. They never learned anything in "western civilization" class.

[@TruthIntel]

African countries were created by European invaders so you have a mixture of incompatible ethnic groups in a country. One ethnic group trying to colonise another. A case study is Nigeria. A country that can never be viable.

[@freedomsong9747]

Maybe you conveniently forgot the colonizers never allowed the revolutionaries to govern but instead funding arm.grouos against the new leaders and up to assassinate them. Seems you forgot what happened to Patrice Lumumba

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@@freedomsong9747 , I did not forget that. Rather, what I meant was that the original leaders you mention were focused on decolonization. But after the fact, they did not have the right 'talent' surrounding them to sustain that thought. Rather than putting together a coalition of visionaries for the long term survival of the young nations ( probably due to lack of educated people among the masses), they opted for a more militaristic approach, which did not require a lot of academic prowess but was abundant within their countries as a means of post colonial stabilization of the emerging nations. Take Lumumba for example, he led the country out of colonization only to be killed by a military successor (mobutu) whose sole qualification was control of the guns and sole ambition was to usurp the seat to (eat) enrich themselves. That same modus operandi can be seen in multiple African countries. 1. A leader emerges that leads a "Colony" to independence based on policy. 2. A military leader emerges to depose #1 above, often with guns rather than policy positions. 3. Repeat #2 as appropriate. 4. A country matures after several iterations of 2 & 3 as appropriate and with more people educated in policy & diplomacy vs the independence era. 5. A country develops along the path of the founding leaders visions albeit 50 or 60 years later to correct its destiny and re-emancipate itself from domestic colonization by its military, rather than the West and East this time. Can it be argued that some African leaders cling to the colonial powers as a means to ensure that they are included at the dinner table rather than a contributor protecting its people and resources for the general benefit of its people? Lumumba(1)- Mobutu(2)- Kabila(2)- Kabila(2)-Current President. 1...Policy driven. 2...Military (gun) driven Is it any wonder that the 2's are heavily reliant on their colonizers to keep the guns flowing in?

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@@kb_rtd1430 who funded, paid and armed mobutu to kill lumumba?

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@@kb_rtd1430 because you murdered all the leaders with talent and replaced and supported the murderers to rule over the people