Ingenuity Precision powder meter trickler for AutoTrickler

[@devinporter1676]

Man that is awesome! I usually run mine slow so it stops at 0.02 grains short so I can manually drop one kernel in before I drop it in my casing. Because I prefer accuracy over speed. This allows both! Thanks for sharing.

[@FClassJohn]

You're welcome. Glad you liked it.

[@robertdirose983]

I bought this disk trickler after I watched your vid. It is a great addition to the V-3 that I have been using for the passed year. The unit is much easier to tune and just won’t over throw. Thank you for bringing real world new produce reviews to your viewers.

[@FClassJohn]

Awesome. I’m really glad you liked it and it’s working well for you.

[@emoryzakin2576]

Good Lord that’s nuts! My wish list keeps growing, thanks John!

[@FClassJohn]

My pleasure 😉

[@patrickcolahan7499]

That appears to be the true next level of trickler. I have the Sartorius. If I could find the controller for the 419 that I could plug into my scale I would jump on this. I have plenty of stepper motors from other projects. Thanks for sharing.

[@Anon.Emouse]

Now I'm really questioning myself about why i rushed into upgrading to the V4 and selling my V3.

[@PatriotPaulUSA]

Really cool new one, John. I can see the time savings on loads of 2-300 rounds not to mention the accuracy factor. Thanks for showing us! I just need money as always! :)

[@thegrowingfarmyard6937]

That’s a meet tool. Out of my price range. Good information. Thanks for sharing

[@FClassJohn]

My pleasure.

[@tuckerschmidt2484]

Man it’s def faster that my v3 tricklers. Thanks for the video, gonna cost me some money!

[@Dwayne7834]

Nice piece of equipment. Thanks for the information.

[@FClassJohn]

No problem 👍

[@robertwilson8853]

Thanks John!

[@86309]

same stepper motor disc concept as my Promethius.

[@pstewart5443]

Due to your review, I purchased one. I am always finding that I need to trickle or add a kernel or two. I love the height and stability on the stand.

[@FClassJohn]

Glad I could help!

[@mpccenturion]

That is so cool! Great news!

[@FClassJohn]

Indeed it is.

[@macman039reloading5]

Hi John,so I’ve been watching your videos on these different variations of the scale and I’m looking to get one if you had to choose one for your rifle loading what do you think I should get

[@FClassJohn]

The v4 is still a great unit and ultimately you can add this to it if you like. As of today and with what options are out there, I tell people is that the v3 is great for someone who does a couple calibers and not a lot load testing. The v4 really makes life easy for doing various powders, charges and cartridges because of how it works. Both are great and honestly at this point the best one is the one you can actually get your hands on.

[@macman039reloading5]

thank you so much for the advise

[@Anon.Emouse]

Re-visiting this now that I have had a SuperTrickler for a couple of months. As much as I love the ST for the extra functionality, sometimes I wish for something simpler. Out of all your throwers (V3, V4 and ST) which one is your current go-to?

[@mylin1979]

Quick question John. What the diameter of the hole you drilled on the top cover and what distance from the center hole to it? Thanks,

[@FClassJohn]

It's about 2" long and 1 inch wide. That gives you enough room to position it.

[@huntmulies39]

Nice trickler

[@kennethtephabock5634]

Great video buddy

[@FClassJohn]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@markbower8848]

At $360 plus shipping and the V4 Autotrickler being $490 plus shipping, this doesn't make sense to me. My V3 throws as fast as I can seat bullets.

[@jeremiahallen4676]

Thanks for talking me into one! It works great but I was wondering what powder cup you use? Both the stock V3 and 419 cups I have the powder likes to bounce out her and there. Not a big deal but it gets annoying cleaning them off the platen.

[@FClassJohn]

I had a friend with a machine shop make me one. It’s very similar to the 419 cup.

[@FClassJohn]

And I’m really glad that you like the actual trickler. It’s amazing how some thing like that makes such a big difference.

[@richardlinton2476]

Hi John, I too have been testing the V4. You have the perfect set up there. Do you have a list of the mods/parts you have done here with some detail to get this up and running. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks. Regards Richard

[@FClassJohn]

All you need is the v4 and the new trickler unit and a v3 cable. If you don't have a v3 cable you can order one from Autotrickler for about $10. Just cut the cord open like I show in the video and manually match them up to the cord on your v4. I'm hoping in the near future Ingenuity Products makes a patch cable that let's you just plug and play. other than that, you have everything you need to get going.

[@richardlinton2476]

@@FClassJohn ok sweet, thanks will get onto it

[@brettinnj]

Very cool. The price seems high considering the V3 cost $500 total and you have to cannibalize your autotrickler. I also noticed a clear top that you drilled out. So I'm guessing the plexiglass shroud that you bought for the V3 was unusable? Where did you get the clear top? My FX-120i came with a thin plastic top.

[@FClassJohn]

That clear plexi top is from Area 419 but you can just drill a hole in the stock plastic one and achieve the same success.

[@lgz5953]

I am just getting started in competition shooting, have only shot 1 f-class and loved it. I have an RCBS now, should I sell it and buy an A&D and the IP before I get frustrated. My goal is to be competitive at SWN's someday.

[@FClassJohn]

I don't know which RCBS you have but it's not a bad unit but any combination of AutoTrickler will definitely take you to the next level in terms of repeatability and time savings. They're pretty far behind so I'd order now if you want one this year.

[@texpatriot8462]

What do you use as a base under the scale?

[@FClassJohn]

A slab of granite I got from a local countertop company. They usually just throw these away so they were happy to give me one.

[@joemass1023]

Any idea how we could get one of these to work if we don't have a V3 already? I have a feeling that a used V3 is going to be very hard to come by now that this is out.

[@FClassJohn]

best bet at this point is to buy the trickler electronics from Adam (autotrickler) and just manually dump the initial charge and use this for the trickle up. easy peezy

[@macman039reloading5]

Hi John one more question What model of the scale do you like to use Thanks julian

[@FClassJohn]

Any of the A&D FX series are what you need for the AutoTrickler system. He used to make a system for the Sartorius but doesn't anymore so you have to go with the A&D.

[@stephenkrampert3430]

I have a V4 on order I wonder if I could use the ingenuity Trickler and just throw from a standard powder measure. Kind of defeats the speed purpose but would work OK for me.

[@FClassJohn]

The v4 is still an amazing machine and does a great job. It’s still the best option for anyone looking to do multiple calibers and powders for sure.

[@stephenkrampert3430]

Thank you John really appreciate your videos keep up the good work been loading for 59 years hard to teach an old dog new tricks changing technologies and techniques you’ve learned get pretty impatient for that new equipment

[@RejeanBoucher]

Have you checked to see if any of your dispensed kernels (not ball powder) get sliced in half? Are they dropped 100% unaffected? If you have the time perform quick dispensing test over white piece of paper with some extruded powder.

[@FClassJohn]

I haven’t done a dedicated test to be honest but one of the features he has that I didn’t point out is on the underside near the exit shoot he has a ball bearing and it is just big enough to knock kernels out of the way to keep them from cutting so that only kernels that fit in the desk make it through. Ultimately this means that some longer kernels might never get picked up in the desk but it does also prevent them from being cut or chopped.

[@michaellavazza960]

It’s like a mini case feeder….

[@FClassJohn]

Exactly.

[@zoidelux]

Ok, now if Im completely new to these and have zero autotrickler parts/ no A&D scale yet… whats the best way to go? Used v3 and disc trickle? Or V4? This is faster than v4 ? But v4 is more compact and convenient?

[@FClassJohn]

If you're new to this then the V4 is your only real option unless you find a used v2/3 and then get this. Neither one is a bad option. The V4 is still a better choice for those looking to do all kinds of powder and lots of different charges.

[@zoidelux]

@@FClassJohn thanks John, im just using 1 charge master lite, occasionally check the throws with a gempro 250… just cant help but wonder if the occasional throw thats .1 or .2 off might be affecting load development/groups… have you tested and confirmed what kind of powder deviations start affecting groups/ taking you out of a node?

[@FClassJohn]

@@zoidelux If you're doing your job correctly then .1gr won't really make a difference BUT I don't like taking a chance. It's a weird fine line between cost (which gets you accuracy and speed) or saving money which is still fine but less accurate and slower.

[@Spoon1829]

Have you tried a tip on your v4? To make it throw better

[@FClassJohn]

Yes I have, it does help.

[@Spoon1829]

@F-Class John what do you think needs to be done to improve the v4 accuracy and speed. I am throwing big long powder like N570 and I found the v4 better at it with 80gn charges than the v3. But now.... I want that speed and accuracy

[@Longshothawk]

@@FClassJohn what are you using for a tip?

[@FClassJohn]

@@Longshothawk contact this guy [e-mail]

[@thomasmann9865]

This looks like a truly great product. I can't figure out how to order or been able to contact them. I'm not in a hurry so I'll keep trying. Once my V4 shows up, if I still need it I'll know what to get.

[@FClassJohn]

I talk to him the other day and he’s just been absolutely overwhelmed by the request but he should have a back order system up on the website soon.

[@thomasmann9865]

@@FClassJohn Cool

[@UnCoolDad]

Same system used by the Promethius

[@MealTeam6_]

Correct me if I am wrong but it looks like this eliminates the need for the V4. I just checked the website at AutoTrickler and they no longer offer the V1, V2, and V3. Do I just try and find a used V3 for sale?

[@FClassJohn]

I think there's going to be a run on v1-v3 units soon so you can look for one or still get the v4 and use it on that too. I'm sure he'll have a patch cable soon enough for the v4.

[@FClassJohn]

or at this point you can buy the trickler electronics from Adam (autotrickler) and just manually dump the initial charge and use this for the trickle up. easy peezy

[@paulnelson9907]

I thought you sold your V3, now how can we get the V3 as it is no longer made?

[@FClassJohn]

Found someone selling one last week.

[@Nonedw]

What are the blue labels (tape) on your FX120 scale for?

[@FClassJohn]

If I have more than one fx120 they help me identify in the Autotrickler system which scale is being connected. You don’t see it with one scale but if you have several Autotrickler systems running at once the app will post up those numbers for you to choose which you want to connect to.

[@Longshothawk]

Have an update on the v4 now that you've had it a while?

[@FClassJohn]

Still think it's works good. I still stand by the fact that it's amazing for those doing lots of caliber, powders or powder tests because of how it works.

[@harveydanger8282]

What size hole did you drill in top?

[@FClassJohn]

I don’t know exactly what it measured but it’s about 3/4 of an inch to an inch in diameter. You’re coming at it from an angle so the hole has to be a little bigger than you would expect.

[@daisyrae8421]

From what I've seen, this only works on V3. Tried contacting Ingenuity to see if one will be available for V4. No reply. Anyone know if a version for V4 is in the works?

[@FClassJohn]

If you watch the second half of my video you will see me using it on a V4. I know he is in works for a patch cable but otherwise his unit works the same on a v4.

[@airborne350g]

Looks good but have to already own a V2 or V3 AutoTrickler

[@FClassJohn]

You can also buy just the trickler unit from Autotrickler and just manually dump the course drop and let this trickle up. Some people (including the guy who makes these) say it’s faster that way too.

[@jayvanleeuwen7713]

Well $=_t, thanks a lot for screwing up my plan john!!😂

[@FClassJohn]

Sorry 🙈

[@drolds7246]

Looks like a seed disc from an old John Deere planter.

[@FClassJohn]

exactly 😉

[@LedGuitar1218]

Truly great, and truly expensive.

[@claytoole1986]

Well crap. I recently bought the v4.. oh well. This is a slick setup though

[@FClassJohn]

There's nothing wrong with the V4, it's still a fantastic unit and it's ability to do load workup is still unrivaled. You'll love it when you get it.

[@snajjpern]

To expencive for only a trickler. Still need a powder messure for the first big throw...

[@Pathfinder76]

How tall is that when set up for the FX 120?

[@FClassJohn]

Mine sits right at 12” tall

[@TexasTrained]

John you getting too many gadgets now.I think you have a bad Addiction..lol