My Most Sensitive Scale: A&D EJ-54D2 (0.003 grains)

[@Ultimatereloader]

Link to product page: bit.ly/36PQx7D (UltimateReloader code gets you free calibration weight!)

[@BlackDotPatrick]

Website says "ULTIMATERELOADER discount code isn’t valid for the items in your cart".

[@Argentum7756]

This company can't ship to WA. Can they even sell to US citizens given that they are Canadians?

[@joeldubose5762]

Gavin , what was the future plans for this scale? What ever happened with it ?

[@BoltActionReloading]

Hilarious how everyone in the comments is complaining about not needing this level of accuracy. It's not much more than a charge master 1500. Nobody "needs" that, but it sure is convenient. Who complained about their car having too much horsepower? I'd still rather have my fx120i personally, with coupon code it's only $15 more and the possibility of adding the auto trickler to it is worth the price. Next video when Gavin is measuring something the comments will be your tools aren't accurate enough to measure that level of precision. It never ends. Thanks for putting the video out, showing what it can do, and letting the individual decide if it's right for their application!

[@RobActiveShooterEngh]

Exactly, the print function alone makes it worth it, but the cost is really not out of line compared to other digital scales that are nowhere near as accurate.

[@machinist7230]

One can almost hear the drooling of the benchrest community...😂👍

[@Plainsimple67]

FOR BENCHREST AND PRS SHOOTERS YES, AVERAGE PLINKERS NOT SO MUCH!!🤷‍♂️

[@barryboyd7973]

Fx-120i =$1,075 listed price on Cambridge Environmental. More than double the price I paid for the EJ-54D2.

[@BoltActionReloading]

@@barryboyd7973 they also say to use coupon code something and it brings the price down significantly. I paid 450.

[@barryboyd7973]

I was using 3 cheap electronic scales. 1 built into my Hornady auto charge dropper, a little Frankfort Arsenal scale and another cheap scale that read to 0.01 grains. When all 3 agreed, I’d load the powder. Very time consuming because they all had a tendency to drift and require re-calibration. Based on my low ES’s, it was working, but very time consuming.

[@danmeeks6387]

Pretty cool. Amazing sensitivity. I would be very interested to see a video on the difference on group size between .1, .01, an .001 gr. scales at 100 yd. and 1000 yds. Keep the videos coming.

[@rvoykin]

I have seen videos with charge master versus the auto trickeler The standard deviation was only 1 ft./s better in terms of velocity which is really what you are measuring versus group size. So .1 versus .02 in the real world doesn’t yield much of a difference.

[@chuckhightower2730]

We usually put our high precision scales on marble or granite antivibrational balance tables; they’re sensitive enough to measure the footsteps of someone walking 5ft away otherwise

[@Patrick-xd8jv]

Or someone breathing

[@kingropplebopplesoppy2634]

Nice to see the scale and hear a little bit about it, but it would have been nice to see a head to head comparison against your 120i ( that lots of us have) and weighing the same objects on both scales. Then would have been great to see a quick load development using both in the same lot of components and tested to see if this really makes any difference in data and on target. After all - this is ultimate reloading!

[@patrickschultz8820]

The gloves are fantastic!...and you make them look good. I typically use nitrile but I may switch to dress gloves like you after seeing how legit they make you look. Happy reloading Mr. Gear!

[@BubblewrapOracle]

Great vid, was really pleased to see someone getting into the finer details. I would like to see more cross-referencing. Compare the same mass in both scales. Compare the same mass in one scale multiple times. If it passes that, then you can add and subtract known mass and check *consistency* of results. Of note, It appears the scale's resolution is actually .005 rather than .001. But I am super excited to see where all this goes!!

[@roady7420]

Thank you finally years ago I told multiple reloaders that varget had variables in weight kernel to Kernel within a range. I had just a cheaper 100 dollar jewelry scale and my assumptions were questioned because of my scale which I accepted. I kept reloading to .1 tenth of grain and my rifles were shooting lights out. I could never disapprove that till your own assumptions of varget you discovered on accident. I know it doesn’t matter but I thought about changing my reloading to gain time off the bench and for practice ammo I might do that but for match ammo I am gonna take the extra time. Really like that scale I hope they make the autotickler compatible with it.

[@RobActiveShooterEngh]

My EJ arrived. love it, thanks for the review on it dude

[@automaticsteve9548]

I'm using a 6 year old Sartorious AY-303 which has served me well over the years. The EJ-54D2 is intriguing to me, with that kind of resolution, at that price point..

[@valitchka1]

I purchased this scale so I could measure my 17 Hornet loads more exactly than my RCBS ChargeMaster was able to produce. The 17 Hornet is a new caliber to me, and the RCBS loads varied by up to about .085 +/- grains per throw, so two loads which were supposed to be the SAME could be .15 difference between the two. So I realized after weighing them that my load testing was not accurate at all. In the Hornet with a common load of 12.0 grains of Accurate 1680 for instance, that would be about 50 fps or more variance, and accuracy on my test loads were not accurate... Now I use the RCBS ChargeMaster to throw the load at .1 grains below the desired weight, then transfer it to the tray on the EJ-54D2 and use a Dandy Trickler to come up to exactly the correct weight. It's a bit time consuming, but a LOT more accurate than what I had before. I appreciate the video, I was hoping to find a KZbin review about this new scale related to reloading, much thanks! Now I'm going to re-test my loads of 20 gr V-Max with AA1680, and do new ones with AA2200 25 gr HP bullets.

[@corydavis3258]

I also load for 17 hornet i prefer AA2200 over 1680 i find that it has better SD/ES numbers what i will say however is that ball powders tend to be bad for SD/ES numbers in general so you might be spening your wheels with that much precision in measuring my best numbers and groups have come with AA LT-30 and Berger 25gr Hp bullets good luck on this fun round

[@terrycole7753]

An old addage comes to mind: "A difference that makes no difference is no difference." I seriously doubt that +/- .003 grains is going to make a verifiable difference in the performance of the ammo. While I like the USB interface & the sliding cover on the wind screen, the big negative for my operation is the max weight limitation. I enter the weight of the individual components in a spreadsheet (primed case, bullet, powder), let the spreadsheet calculate the total weight & then I weigh the cartridge ready to seat the bullet as a double check. Most of the cartridges I load are at or over the 350 grain max.

[@randyidaho]

What Class Calibration Weight are you using? Class 1 or 2? What Class is the "free" weight you get with the UR code? Also, your indication shifted to 0.015 gn before you put the first granule in the pan, which is why you saw the 0.035 reading on the first granule. What is your opinion of linearity, repeatability, zero drift, and calibration drift on this balance versus the Fx-120i?

[@MichaelJohnson-fe8tm]

At work we weigh to 0.00145 grains, 0.0001 gram. This requires annual verification under contract and every 48 hour verification using a calibrated weight set using 3 values. The calibrated weight set itself requires annual calibration. I can weigh your fingerprint. A LEE balance beam is all the accuracy you need for reloading. That's what I use.

[@br4713]

The truth is certainly between these 2 extremes lol

[@worldends2]

I need powder and primers. That’s what I really need

[@hunterday3601]

Amen.

[@machinist7230]

Both are gone for the forseeable future. Reloading components are basically "overflow" from ammo manufacture, and with ammo going out the door as fast as they can make it, dont expect to see it anytime soon.

[@Plainsimple67]

@John Beige YOU NEED TO HUNT FOR THEM FOR NOW AND PATIENCE!!🤷‍♂️

[@PatriotPaulUSA]

@@machinist7230 Exactly Machinist72 knows

[@williambrown8683]

A&D with the Auto trickler, very fast, and accurate, had it over year, very pleased!

[@Ultimatereloader]

Yes! GREAT combo.

[@machinist7230]

What idont like about it, is it relies on tablets and software instead of a dedicated box.

[@terrycole7753]

I found it interesting that the LRP brass had a higher ES although it is still a good number - way better than a lot of brass out there.

[@Ultimatereloader]

Yes, full story coming!

[@jenky1044]

Very informative. Thank you for explaining this, plus the demonstration and not just saying that they are nice scales.

[@jimclark6883]

Greetings Gavin from New Mexico - the Land of Enchantment. I have a RCBS 10-10 Beam Scale (Parker Accurized) and a Range Master 2000. Once my RM 2000 hits the skids I will be purchasing the EJ-4D2 as I won't need the cable attachment functions. Good review!

[@tyler6147]

Scales have been the bane of my existence. I haven't found a scale that meets my wants yet. The electronic ones I have are very sensitive but they are very particular to use and slow. Accurate but slow. The beam scales I've used except for the little Lee scale have too big of an increment than I prefer. If I had the money I would get a Prometheus scale. Super accurate and fast but very expensive. I wish someone would make a high end beam scale with the same increments as the Lee scale.

[@bradcampbell261]

This scale is so slow it would take forever to use it to load for a match.

[@michaelarmstrong3246]

Currently using RCBS chargemaster and im finding with shooting 223 to long ranges i need things even more precise so thinking of going to one of these. Thanks for the great Review Gavin

[@Ultimatereloader]

Good deal, I think you will love this scale!

[@sorryociffer]

I’m more impressed with repeatability/consistency....

[@FullSendPrecision]

The old 120 is tried and true. There's absolutely no doubt about it's quality.

[@gametlogging1942]

@John Senuta how do you get a coupon

[@85ZERO17]

Yes he do you get a coupon

[@Joe___R]

I tend to go with the most precise scale when measuring anything especially reloading supplies.

[@proudwhitesettler7746]

Still using my old Redding #2 that I bought around 1969 or so.

[@tallyman15]

I have one but still use an electronic

[@machinist7230]

@@tallyman15 a good mech scale is always a good idea to have on hand, if only for checking the electronic scale..

[@roytivas6396]

A scale of this precision would be useful to determine what factors contribute to variance. For instance, with a Dillon powder throw, how does accuracy of the throw vary by powder type, size of the throw, how full the hopper is, static build up, static discharge, etc. Some time ago, I saw a test that compared several factors to determine which ones had the biggest impact, but I couldn't help but wonder what scale was used and how much of the variance came from the scaled. Did the observed variance come from the scale or the factors?

[@MrJdebest]

Yes having the best ammo is important. But reading the wind will win you matches and there is no substitute for practice.

[@JacksonMalcolm]

true, but this video is about a scale.

[@MrJdebest]

@@JacksonMalcolm Diminishing returns when you become obsessed with minutia of reloads. Better to spend time and money on practice.

[@JacksonMalcolm]

@@MrJdebest the channel is literally called 'Ultimate Reloader'. people focused on the minutia has brought this sport a long ways. the fact that you're focusing on wind reading while watching a reloading video about a scale tells me you've got tunnel vision. not trying to be rude, just take the video for what it is.

[@oldschooljack3479]

.003 of a grain is going to make a hell of a lot less impact on your shooting than practicing and brushing up on fundamentals like reading wind. Now if this thing has the accuracy and repeatability of a balance... but the speed and convenience of a digital. Worth. Every. Penny.

[@Physics072]

There is good enough fast reloading on a progressive and there is this for people trying to squeak out anything extra to gain an advantage. Their ammo gets 1 percent more accurate but due to lack of shooting their groups open up 6" foiling any gains made with ammo. Fix one thing but break another. Its sort of a OCD obsession for some, if they could get it down to 1 molecule of powder they would want it. This just a tiny part of over all picture too. What if the primers are slightly hotter, does new brass outweigh reloading old brass. Spend a fortune on a scale then get cheap and use old used brass? then bullets, and barrels and scopes. Suddenly there is no time to shoot. If people compete its natural they look to better gear but it can get out of control. And the heavier the charge weight the less of a difference it makes. .1 make can make a difference in 2 gr pistol powder loads (not much) 40.1 vs 40.0 grans in a larger cartridge not going to matter.

[@brentlywhite1191]

I just got this scale without the USB for 385. Thanks for the gift code.

[@VincitOmniaVeritas7]

If a single kernel of powder weights 0.04 grain (H1000), what would be the benefit of having a scale capable of measuring a tenth of the smallest particle I can get?

[@terryspooner128]

LEE PRECISION balance scale. It's pretty darn accurate. Didn't cost as much as. RCBS and American made.

[@brandon152lee]

What's the most accurate analog / old school scale? This may be more than is necessary for most reloaders. Great video!

[@BLR81708]

How much does .02 of a grain change your muzzle velosity? Or even 5 kernels weighting in at .110 of a grain. what I did learn is that there is no real reason to weight Lapua brass. Just use cases from the same lot and your good to go.

[@machinist7230]

Benchrest shooters weigh brass, because weight variations indicate internal volume variations.

[@DOUGLASLASH-xy4ct]

bet my old powder horn can give that new fangled thing a run for the money!

[@Ultimatereloader]

😂

[@mrgruisinge]

Had a Tree brand HRB 413 balance. .02 grains resolution. Use it to check my RCBS dispenser. Pretty sure that it is overkill for constant use, but it is nice to know when my RCBS is acting up. First one I bought when they came out started messing up and I got a new one. Much faster than the original at reaching the set point. It is usually not off by more than +/- .02 grains. With coarse grained stick powder that's less than a stick. Ball powder is a different matter. Tried to measure differences with my chronograph but I think it just falls within the margin of error.

[@quietm4]

I'm waiting for the eventual video where you sort 8lbs of powder by the weight of individual granuals.

[@Ultimatereloader]

Coming soon! (kidding)

[@onemanriflemaker3873]

That’s what I was thinking. What exactly is the pionts of this

[@Knasen3]

If you want to take full advantage of the precision of the balance you should invest in a weighing table. I bet you could make one yourself. They usually have a granite counter recessed in the table which helps with reducing vibrations in the table. Levelling the table itself and avoid leaning on it etc also helps.

[@stevenslater2669]

...and a climate-controlled room. I’d like to see Gavin repeat that 20 case measurement series in 3 months, 6 months with shop door open, etc. Trying to obtain super precise readings in uncontrolled conditions is a great way to drive yourself nuts.

[@RobActiveShooterEngh]

Basically an inspection table/surface plate I guess?

[@Knasen3]

@@RobActiveShooterEngh kinda similar. Weighing tables are built a little sturdier. There are even ones built in only granite but the ones we have at our lab are all welded constructions with a recessed slab of granite on top.

[@RobActiveShooterEngh]

@@Knasen3 cool, lab at my old work had concrete slabs inside temp controlled chambers for all scales, with leveling pads under each scale as I guess the slabs weren't very level. Reminded me of the concrete pillars at a club a dj friend of mine worked at, that his turntables rested on. No more skipped albums when people bashed into the DJ booth and jumped up and down on the floor in the booth. Each pillar was 16ft under the main floor and were padded with 8 inches of some sort of material to isolate them from the floor. Excessive lol

[@richardpegram5160]

Well I don't think I have see a bench powder drop shoot out!Now you have this supper accurate scale let's see the best powder drop rcbs,redding,lee,liman, and a few others.That thing is going drive you crazy!!!!!

[@RumblestripDotNet]

Before I let the video roll lets play a game of which cost more, this scale, or a 1000 rounds of 5.56 in Feb 2021.

[@barryboyd7973]

I just have one question. How am I going to weigh my powder with 1,000 rounds of 5.56?

[@KurtOnoIR]

I'm betting they're about even.

[@KurtOnoIR]

Shit the 5.56 is more. By a lot.

[@claytonpegram6035]

Less than 500 rounds of 556!!

[@DimaProk]

I'll be more than happy to trade 1000 of my reloads of .223 for this scale :)))

[@JW-mt4vb]

My only concern would be the 300gr capacity. I have several bullets that are heavier than that.

[@tomgiorgini9154]

why do you think it has a 300 gn limit this scale has 800 something grain limit

[@flinch9748]

Thanks again for this great review! This scale is exact what I was looking for; a super accurate scale for my match pistol and revolver handloads at a reasonable price, whereas the FX20 was a bit out of my price range. Now how to convince my little ministry of war....i’l start with some flowers and breakfast on bed.

[@DanielBoone337]

This scale would drive me freaking crazy... LOL

[@Jp-mn1rq]

It’s getting a little over the top with .0003 grain resolution. Does anyone make a powder kernel turner to unicorn all the kernels yet?

[@DimaProk]

What I really want to see is scale like fx-120 but smaller and cheaper with interface for Adam's trickler. I am even ok with coarser resolution something like .033 grain compare to .02 as long as its fast and can drop the price to $300-400 level.

[@hebrewhooligan5462]

I know this is nitpicking but when he showed the scale while weighing the brass it wasn't cleared each time looked like 1 to 1.5 thousandth on it? Dose it never clear all the way just because its so sensitive?

[@Greyzonecompliant]

In my country we still have primers. And cases, powder and bullets. I hope you all get to stock up soon.

[@Greyzonecompliant]

@John Beige the ammo shortage may or may not affect us. Norma lapua and s&b ammo wont run out (I hope). But all they stock locally are American primers cci federal and Remington.

[@tallyman15]

@@Greyzonecompliant those are all good primers. Do you like a different brand?

[@Greyzonecompliant]

@@tallyman15 You are right. They are all very good. But they are all from the US, so they will be affected by the shortage, and may run out. Sellier & Bellot from the Czech Republic or Murom from Russia hopefully wont be.

[@markhamstra1083]

To be pedantic, that’s the most precise scale you own; whether it is accurate or not is a separate question. For example, it could be precisely and repeatably reading 10.003 grains when the actual weight is 9.000 grains or some other weight that is not 10.003. The precision is more or less inherent to the design and construction of the scale. Calibration helps to insure accuracy.

[@seantierney3]

That is cool and all but I have yet to see anybody prove that this level of accuracy will improve groups. most measures throw + or - .1 of a grain, people trickle to .05 of a a grain. not sure how much of a difference this will make.

[@dukedenarie5858]

You really have the useful kind of OCD. I hope a chargemaster is good enough lol. I’d love to meet up with someone who has one of those just to check the accuracy of mine.

[@Johnmiccael1]

Do you have any N570 load data for 300 PRC with 230gr A tip and 250gr A tip? I can't find anything and just need a place to start as far as charge weight is concerned

[@kirkmartin2223]

I'd just like to find some N570 lol

[@shannonnunn]

Good job finding some.. I just scored 8 pounds... It is like unicorn powder... Look for h1000 data as a starting point since it burns faster and start in the mid weight and work up... That's how I safely work with my wildcat that doesn't have data... You might want to look at 300 Norma mag since it has the same case capacity as the prc... Get brass not made by hornady.. Hornady brass is shit

[@kenthall6584]

Accurate shooter forum has a new thread on PRC

[@boostaddict20]

im using the gempro 300. .02 Gn accuracy, i have to mind the fan or if the windows open. i like it a lot

[@googleboy7]

Avoid plugging your cables in backwards. Get a black and silver Sharpe. Paint the top of the connectors with the contrasting color Sharpe. Also works for identifying a.c. wall adapters. Shalom, gw

[@duaneschwartz7780]

Like a +/-.1g balance beam scale isn't good enough for your loads. It is for mine and a Lee Perfect Powder Measurer works fine.

[@matthewgroff433]

@@xxxterpxxx Each scale has its purpose. The Ultra Sensitive scales are more designed for someone who shoots for accuracy and/or who shoots for accuracy at long ranges. On the other hand the scales that are .1 grain accurate might be good enough for someone who is creating a hunting load for shooting out to 150 yards and just needs 1 1/2" accuracy. Also some people may not have the $$$ to purchase the High end equipment needed to be able to shoot 1/2 MOA at 1,000 yards, so they make do with what they have and stick to what they can do best with the ammo they can load. Yes, that scale would be nice to have, but I can not afford it. If someone gave it to me I would take it.

[@barryboyd7973]

Most of the content on this channel is geared to high precision shooting. When you make a comment like this you should qualify it with what purpose you are loading for because those tools aren’t suitable for that purpose.

[@donaldban5982]

Love the Channel. How about doing a video on the A&D EJ-123 with your opinions on the "entry level" balance. I'm considering the EJ-123, upgrading from a RCBS Uniflow III and trickling up with the Lyman.. CE is sold out of the EJ-54D. Thanks. Keep up the great Vids. Don.

[@luckyshotammunitiongunsllc2369]

@gavintube where can I find the cord to connect to my computer

[@mikesauer7775]

My hornady scale changed .3 grains on me in mid charging session. Had to dump and re-weigh 20 rounds. Dangerous when you are loading right under max pressure

[@shannonnunn]

Hornady is shit... Even their brass...

[@jimsagray589]

It seems that working from top for weighing powder seems like a pain. Though I love the accuracy.

[@Ultimatereloader]

Correct- I plan on drilling a powder trickler tube hole in the side!

[@sgt84bravo40]

The display on your new scale only displays to .005 grain increments. Why doesn't it display in .003 grain increments, if it can sense that small a weight difference?

[@badoldboy5557]

The question of whether this is necessary is often asked here. Those who manufacture benchrest ammunition, precisely measure and weigh their cases, twist off case necks inside and out, glow cases, pay over a dollar and a half for just a good case and still have to process and improve them, weigh and sort their projectiles and so on - such shooters also have such scales. And the point @sorryociffer brought ist correct - that's the point as well. Befor the test with the powder has started here, the Scale was not at serro anymore grrrrrrrrrrrr

[@EJM505]

How is ES calculated in the Google sheet? It looks like each ES is calculated independently of the other dataset. I've only seen ES calculated using a difference of the averages and total standard deviation.

[@Ultimatereloader]

No- ES is the extreme spread: Max Value minus Min Value.

[@bluegirl0010]

I add powder by eye. What happened to the progressive press shoot out.

[@rapidrrobert4333]

Gavin, I get it but ... I have seen bench rest guys load the same case at their shooting bench dipping an empty rifle case trimmed to their magic powder volume, and do sub MOA (like .5MOA) all the way out.

[@Ultimatereloader]

In a benchrest competition, the difference between 1st place and 40th place can be something like 0.09 MOA. Different shooters have different needs. :)

[@rapidrrobert4333]

@@Ultimatereloader As "they" say in racing, how fast can you afford to go? In shooting, how small of groups can you afford to print

[@austinrobinson101]

can you do a video like this with Peterson brass

[@roush0741]

I use the RCBS match master. I mean I know it doesn't Have that accuracy But at a certain point your literally splitting hairs. It weighs 2 digits after the decimal point. And it's dispenser All-in-one

[@randyidaho]

Can the breeze shield be removed, or at least one or more sides? Regarding settling time, MFR balances are always faster to stabilize than load cell balances due to the nature of the weighing system.

[@hamideqbal5134]

1. Can this scale interface with the Autotrickler V3 with the standard port installed? 2. Can it be set up with both standard and USB ports?

[@RobActiveShooterEngh]

I too want to know this. Although the FX scale settles quicker, I'd guess due to less resolutiom/precision, so using this with the auto trucker might be frustrating

[@Ultimatereloader]

It will not work with the Autotricker, from: ceproducts.shop/collections/reloading-systems/products/copy-of-a-d-ej-54d2-dual-range-22g-x-0-0002g-52g-x-0-001g-reloading-scale

[@jasonmaxwell7558]

Gavin it would be awesome if you could say the retail price of these items you review. Yes I know this was partnered to you but after watching videos I don’t want to spend time searching prices, just want to know if I can afford it lol

[@michaelvstheworld3680]

The cheapest I found this scale was at Old Will Knotts Scale for $315.90

[@jetthreat5000]

Cool scale, but it’s resolution isn’t really needed in our area.🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Factory400]

It's all fun and games until you have to pay for it, lol. Precision = All Your Money

[@barryboyd7973]

There you go. A solid, realistic comment. I like it.

[@rapidrrobert4333]

Money is better spent on your rifle and rest equipment.

[@jasonmpd2946]

@@rapidrrobert4333 Better spent on training.

[@rapidrrobert4333]

@@jasonmpd2946 I can shoot better than my centerfire equipment can now. This is evidenced by the remarkable difference in performance in rimfire. With good ammo, I'm under half MOA, with less than match stuff, I can see the group open up. It closes down the second I switch back to the good stuff. 60+ years of experience and fellowship of great shooters through most of my life has helped me hone my skills. I don't mean to say that I'm the greatest, but rifle equipment is now my main concern.

[@Plainsimple67]

IT ALL HAS TO HOW FAR YOU PERSONALLY WANT TO TAKE IT, AT THE END YOU ARE IN CONTROL OF YOUR MONEY!!🤷‍♂️

[@joeldubose5762]

Can the auto trickler be used on this ?

[@mastafaforga]

Now for Autotrickler to make and adapter for this scale

[@lukashuening]

Does it really matter if your scale measure 0.05 or 0.0001 gr.? I mean even at 0.05 it is like +- 2 granualars few fps +- i mean I get it if you shoot ELR and really want to squeeze the last bit, but other than that...

[@lars-erikbtkerpetersen9466]

Sorry about the precision of 0.003 grains..... 🙄🥴🤔🤔🤔 During all of the video I never saw the digit "3" as the last digit . 3rd position after the dot. Alvays.XX0 or .XX5. That underlines the precision is absolutely no less than 0.005 grains... Sorry to say...

[@tonydevich7937]

Wow that brass is consistent

[@PrezUSMC]

Has there been a follow up on this? I'm wondering how you've gotten the trickler to work with it? Or do you have to pull the pan out every time

[@BlackDotPatrick]

Can't get the UltimateReloader code to work on the CE Products website.

[@Colt1927AC]

Can the powder measure and trickler be interfaced with the EJ-54D2?

[@luckyshotammunitiongunsllc2369]

What cord are u using to hook the 2 together

[@adamturnbull1258]

Will it work with the v4 auto trickled

[@greasegun1313]

Will this work with the autotrickler? If so what would the total system cost approximately?

[@toddb930]

Does that scale drift with temperature changes? I'm currently using an old Redding #2. I got tired of the drifting on the PACT electronic scale.

[@C_Squared]

Need to get a 3D printer and make a bigger windscreen setup. That current one looks like a pain in the ass and I’d end up hitting the powder on it taking it out and make a mess

[@st.gabriel3406]

how can I purchase Im from PH

[@MrSwanny808]

Gday Gavin, great review. Would you choose these over the fx300i mate just for weighing powder charges? Cheers

[@1868Brett]

Please explain why weighing case has any benefit when 2 cases of the same mass can have different capacities. It's capacity that determines pressure, not case mass.

[@Ultimatereloader]

It is a measure of manufacturing constancy, and there is a *direct* relationship between weight variation and capacity variation.

[@1868Brett]

@@Ultimatereloader Take 25 cases and tabulate the mass vs.. capacity in grains H20 using the A&D FX300 and prove it. There's a reason QikLoad asks for capacity and not mass.

[@1868Brett]

@@Ultimatereloader Consider how cases are formed , check your email and lets do some science on the subject :)

[@claytonpegram6035]

Gavin's OCD is going make go insane!!

[@shannonnunn]

How does it measure weight? Does it use a magnet like high quality scales or does it measure like a gem pro 250... That makes a big difference in the long run...

[@jimmyc7269]

Load cell not force balance according to A&D's website. Probably why it's so much cheaper than force balance ones of the same resolution.

[@shannonnunn]

@@jimmyc7269 sounds like fx-120i is the better choice then... Resolution means nothing without repeatability and consistency.

[@jimmyc7269]

@@shannonnunn According to the specs the repeatability of the fx-120i is 0.001g, 1x the resolution. Repeatibility of EJ-54 is 0.0004g, 2x the resolution. Certainly worse than a force balance scale of the same resolution, but still half of FX-120i's. I don't own or plan to buy either of them for now so I'm not biased towards either, but I don't think it's fair to say the EJ-54 has worse repeatability or consistency without more evidence.

[@shannonnunn]

My experience with force scales like gem pro 250 have me wary... It never held zero... Had drift while trying to trickle... Every time the pan came off, it never had a consistent weight. You are right, I should not judge it, but resolution is different from consistency. My 120i has the same resolution as a gem pro but it is levels above it when it comes to consistency. Resolution does not matter as much as consistency after .02 grains. Especially on paper... I have loads that have extreme spreads of 10 feet.

[@mertonsilliker3686]

Price ?

[@marc1cathy]

Rien ne sert de mesurer la poudre avec autant de précision, dans le même temps qu' on à de la difficulté à mesurer le volume interne des douilles.

[@jeremys8360]

Okay but WHY. If your load is so sensitive that you need 1/2,000,000th of a pound accuracy in your loads, you’re not at a good load

[@diyreloading]

Yep, it's all about finding nodes and and ammo being "good enough".

[@jwiatrek]

If I had the money ... Why not

[@jeremys8360]

@John Doe I can’t

[@RobActiveShooterEngh]

Every thing you can make more precise comes at a price both in dollars and time. If someone can afford to chase those things, why would anyone else care? And it's cumulative too, each thing you make more accurate adds up, contributing to the overall accuracy.

[@jeremys8360]

@John Beige perfect example. If you find a good load, you can use dippers and still hit sub MOA accuracy

[@rvoykin]

Can you use this with the auto trickleler?

[@Ultimatereloader]

No, it's not fast enough. :)

[@Samho1982]

@gavintoobe over the last few months of using this scale have you found any issues of drift? Considering this scale as a half way between my current gempro 250 which is on the fritz and the fx120i

[@Ultimatereloader]

Hi Sam- this scale needs to warm up for 30-60 minutes, and is very sensitive to air currents in the room where you're using it. But once you account for these factors, drift is not an issue. It does take about 2x as long to stabilize a reading compared to the FX-120i. Some factors to consider!

[@Samho1982]

@@Ultimatereloader so no issues adding say a granule or two of powder at a time while trickling and it registers? I know some other strain gauges will detect it as drift and not register the addition of the minute amount of powder.

[@smoak888]

One word. sartorius

[@albertthesecond210]

Scale? Or balance?

[@ronniebaker3036]

You have any load data on n555 in 6.5x47 serria gamechanger 130gr tgk?

[@Ultimatereloader]

No, sorry, but I will be building a 6.5x47 soon!

[@dalefine3329]

I wish I could afford to buy another scale! I do have Autotrickler V3 and want to be able to use them with an excel spreadsheet! Can I do that? Thanks!

[@Ultimatereloader]

You can do it! My A&D FX-120i is setup with the serial PC interface. It works, but it's harder to setup. Also- requires different module I believe.

[@dalefine3329]

@@Ultimatereloader That is great! Can you show us how to do that in the video? I am sure a lot of us want to see them! Many thanks!

[@doghousedon1]

.003? Exactly how much gunpowder is .003 Grains? A half ball? A quarter flake? A piece of a stick? How much does .003 gr. effect velocity? Seems like all this amounts is to bragging rights at the bar. Even .02 gr is ridiculous. One doesn't need this much accuracy with reloading ammo. Put the money elsewhere, where it will do dome good. Thanks for the vid.

[@JosephDAndrea0121]

Look at this guy stunting on us with his 8 pounds of varget

[@avinanrey]

LOL!

[@mryang3644]

I have plenty myself too😁 more than 8lb for sure

[@Plainsimple67]

@@mryang3644 THE QUESTION IS FUTURE SUPPLIES AND PRIMERS!!😉

[@mryang3644]

@@Plainsimple67 well for me, i have more than what i need in primers😃 and a good variety of powders across a good amount of Calibers, yeah the popular powders.😁😁im in no shortage😃

[@raywhitehead730]

Ground vibrations, air currents, temperature stabilization.!

[@chuckdittrick7454]

I use the FX120i

[@RobActiveShooterEngh]

How have you been enjoying the scale Gavin? My GemPro scale is dying and I need a new scale

[@Samho1982]

Mine too, I have the gem pro 250 and recently looking to upgrade. Can’t seem to justify the fx120 but this is ok. I can live without the auto trickler too.

[@RobActiveShooterEngh]

@@Samho1982 very happy with this EJ-54D2 scale, somehow I'd missed that it would weigh to 0.005 of a grain. So now dialing in my measures is just awesome!

[@Samho1982]

@@RobActiveShooterEngh I just ordered one! Very excited. Will be a nice improvement. I wanted to justify the fx120i for myself but I couldn’t. In middle of planning a 22 creedmoor build

[@RobActiveShooterEngh]

@@Samho1982 nice!