Ingmar Bergman on demons

[@jeremyc2445]

'I have a list'

[@Observer-p7u]

Who but Ingmar Bergman has a list of his demons ready for an interview? 😎

[@hd-xc2lz]

Highlight of the video, loved the slow unfolding of demons list as well.

[@SculptExpress-gv8jp]

The last demon of nothingness brings along depression. I like how he calls demons all our discomforts with ourselves, so much more accurate than the doomed psychological terms that make one feel mentally ill.

[@nmeau]

"Lanterna Magica", his autobio, is stunningly honest and give so much insight to this tortured, brilliant man.

[@yaboydolphin]

thanks will read

[@AugustusRex-nk8ze]

I believe it's emotionally very honest, but it also contains some lies. Bergman was a joker.

[@AugustusRex-nk8ze]

@@yaboydolphin Do so. All I can say is it's the best autobiography I've ever read.

[@voraciousreader3341]

Life holds many gifts for those who are highly intelligent, extremely sensitive, artistic people, especially when they can feel also every emotion in words, when words and ideas have the capacity to make them intoxicated. The difficulty is, their radar for the sublime at one end of the spectrum doesn’t negate feelings and perceptions at the other end....the gifts must be taken with the curses, and we’ve heard the list of Inmarsat Bergman’s list of his own demons. The only way to get though the darkness which _ALWAYS_ accompanies the brightest light, is to find a therapist who understands. And the other huge gift is a naturally happy or upbeat personality....at least, that’s what I have found. So, I feel for Mr. Bergman, who apparently didn’t look for the therapist and only pretended to be happy. He seemed to be self destructive in his relationships with women, as evidenced by all of his marriages and infidelities (why then, get married at all??), and he couldn’t seem to find any perspective on ways to help himself. Like most overly sensitive people, he just appeared to move at a frenetic pace to keep his particular demons quiet, but this only makes them stronger and more aggravating-they thrive in the dark corners of our minds. Something as inane as being annoyed at a bird finding a way in the house became an enormous fear, an obsessive terror. *_The deal is, you can run from your anxieties, but you can’t hide!_* I find it very sad that he didn’t find any peace, and that he didn’t figure this out: When you force a huge anxiety into the light and scream, exposing it to the light of day and putting it back into proportion, it initially feels like you’re going to free fall from the height of a very tall cliff, only to find you’ve just stepped off of a low kerb. Very embarrassing. Of course, the biggest consolation for these people is that, though most are not famous, they will never be mediocre.

[@clodaghireuk3214]

I really enjoyed your reflection. Its strange to stumble upon so thoughtful a sentiment. Thank you 😊

[@mikuspalmis]

I don't see how it's sad considering that his earthly life is over and he's at least no longer in torment in this particular realm.

[@mikuspalmis]

@@hd-xc2lz It would seem that their art was possibly their true therapy, at least to a degree, as opposed to conventional therapy, especially medication which can be numbing.

[@hd-xc2lz]

Disappointed in your answer, "find a therapist." In the arts field, I've known too many once creative people who lost the drive to make and play once they entered therapy, especially if medication was prescribed. There is a dynamic lost when "demons" are reduced to neuroses and anxieties.... and then one runs the risk of welcoming the Demon of Nothingness into one's being.

[@SculptExpress-gv8jp]

The therapists I know in a very urbane area that deal with lots of different “clients” (as they call them) never heard of Ingmar, never watched his movies. And not just Bergman, they are barely familiar with any philosophers - apart from Freud or Jung, but even they don’t profile in any therapeutic conversation - literary writers, artists past or present. They hardly ever go to stage theatre and if they do it’s some Xmas topic musical. It’s not that they are not intelligent people, but their job is to identify one or the other “disorder” and prescribe the latest drug. So, if an intelligent and arty person seeks to reveal his inner demons to a shrink, he or she might end up disappointed or even damaged by a robotic approach to human psychology. Not to mention that the constraints with time are devastating. I hope that people will move away from that “industry” and find comfort and understanding in some other type of communication; I like forums as in antiquity where people from all walks of life gather and interact in whatever way it suits them. I like the old cafe bohemia… But, this is not what the therapists of today understand. Their ideal child is the one that has perfect “executive functions” 🙄 This is criminal, fascist like. The teens are meant to be “well adjusted.” 😅And the adults must always be “happy!” And perfectly in line with the rest of society. Being creative means having skills for decoration and design, not art that screams, challenges and pushes limits. So, yeah, Ingmar was intelligent enough to avoid the shallowness of therapy and its accompanying drugs that kill all the possible creativity. Therapists don’t understand the power of chaos. Avoid them as a plague.

[@freddiewadling2090]

While it might strike some as "weak", it is deeply brave to "own" one's demons in this way.

[@CJVS995]

The wise take the bad with the good and accept both

[@chrismorrison3696]

It's comforting yet sorrowful to know that human beings of his talent and vision are as tormented as an old, sad and lost high school special education teacher. I can't believe I'm hearing a man who I admire so much, discuss the same demons that I struggle with. Thank you for this post and reminding me that I am not alone. Deeply appreciative. Sincerely, C in Portland

[@Jeff-tt7wj]

@@williamhaddocis this a quote from something? That’s wonderfully deep.

[@atomcloud9750]

Hey, Chris, I’m also in Portland (area)

[@Ekam-Sat]

My days are harder when I am upset at others and easier when I love everybody.

[@little.bear344]

How can you "love everybody" when it's impossible to know everybody and their intentions? I've tried that and it only made me feel worse at the end. You have to discern a little. "A friend to all is a friend to none." -Aristotle

[@cud9104]

wow. so that's why i have an extreme attachment with Bergman films.. me n him r literally the same. thank you, Ingmar Bergman.

[@CollectionOfTheTimeless]

Ingmar's mentioning about the Demon of fear reminded me of my psychedelic trip years ago. During the experiment there was this hallucination of a elf kind of entity that was for a short while, judging every little action I made physically. It had it's hands up and shaking them toward me as if it was saying to me : " No!No! Don't do that! " Calling me names and so on. I never really made much of it, neither I do any of the hallucinations experienced during psychedelics. Reflecting back to it, taking into consideration of what Ingmar is saying, I see that this Demon of fear is still prevalent in the consciousness, not as a entity but rather as a subconscious force of the mind. Looking at it superficially, it is all about the "comfort zone" we have and becoming accustomed to our habits. Habits seemingly bring security for the mind, they ensure survival. But habit can make us live very mechanically, and lead into life without understanding. Our comfort zone is caused by thinking. Thoughts are responsible for man's misery, that's where the separation begins, one sees the fear as something separate from another and becomes a victim .. To have an insight to this is to see the truth of it, and no longer needing to identify with the fear. And obviously there are different kinds of fear, the naturals and the irrational ones. Ones that make us thrive for aliveness, and ones that make us paralyzed. To see the danger of something so clearly that you never touch it again, is possible cognitively related to psychology as it is in your practical world, growing up and learning that putting your hand on the hot stove hurts so you never do it again. In the same way, the observation of the appearing thoughts & feelings can bring about some freedom in one's life.

[@tersiaraath799]

Thank you 😮

[@Enmanuel_V6]

Thanks

[@DrayzoHD]

very interesting, parhaps the elves are organisms within our organism, perhaps the trip makes the implicit relationship explicit

[@palel]

The BBC are very "kind" in their translation of this. He swears a lot, a whole fucking lot.

[@rapidwienfinastearenan]

No he doesnt?

[@rapidwienfinastearenan]

När svär han?

[@LoqiiProductions]

@@rapidwienfinastearenan Han säger att han har ett "jävla humör" men håller med det vart inte så illa eller mycket.

[@rantingsw3de]

Nonsense.

[@asgo7320]

I'm swedish and he does NOT swear a lot. He says "Det går åt helvete" which means "It goes to hell" or "It goes very wrong". Then he says "Ett jävla humör" which means "A terrible temper", but "jävla" is actually "devilish". Our swear words are always about the devil and hell basically.

[@serkev]

I could relate to almost all of his demons, but only in a vague and far fetched way. When he mentioned the demon of nothingness, though, I got chills. When I am alone I am myself, but when I am with people I recognise very little of what's happening inside me. It is almost like I do not think rationally and can't form a comprehensive thought and put it into words.

[@CT2507]

I think he meant something else when he mentioned a demon he doesn't have aka the demon of nothingness. He was talking about not being afraid of ever loosing his creativity. Like some artists are or were. I have heard of comedians who had the fear of suddenly loosing their funny and inventive mind. And not being funny anymore. He wasn't afraid of this. Didn't have this "demon".

[@del4297]

TheSoulSColours: Thanks so much for uploading this video of my number "one" person... Ingmar Bergmar, a great film maker. I miss him a great deal. Cheers to all Ingmar's fans. From New Orleans the city of jazz and the "Cajun" food mmmmmmmmmm....!!!!

[@JWIZZY4real]

His voice gives me asmr tingles.

[@samsoncubensis6614]

When you are lost and alone - alone within yourself, you become overwhelmed by that feeling of the acute lack of mind, creative sustenance so terribly underwhelming that it brings despair to you, and the emptiness engulfs you whole. The demon of nothingness. How do I vanquish what has already vanquished me?

[@daxnova4528]

U r gay

[@Observer-p7u]

Out of nothing comes new. All things that are once weren't. The vanquished no longer in anguish.

[@CastleHassall]

think of things you would like to do, big and small things, and then do them.. that takes your focus onto things you would like to be thinking of more often

[@Ionlydategoodgirls]

Learn how to love that demon, it might need it in order to ease you

[@DiegoRiedemann]

Master! Thx for sharing

[@kemowasabi551]

I feel a relief come over me when I see such similar demons to my own articulated, but it is short lived. The nausea returns at the thought of our shared cruel bindings - tethered to one another like Bergman's characters' silhouetted dance with Death over twilight's hill.

[@nithyakalyanipub288]

You speak to me directly tonight.

[@RamReddy-xv9hx]

def. not from india

[@simonvladik]

The Demon King brought me here...

[@Johnconno]

Did you drive a white sports car in Get Carter?

[@tombjornebark]

I watched this a couple of times and after awhile i realised he was actually joking. He has an incredible dry sense of humour, he has these demons and is not lying, but that he is aware of them makes this and wrote them down is great humour.

[@widaAcK]

"...he was actualy joking" =) :D :) ....probably (Not, also)!

[@SculptExpress-gv8jp]

Yes and no. I think that Scandinavians have that type of dry humour; all good comedy is based on truth.

[@henryulric]

Love this guy.

[@rikardkaar3682]

Why ?

[@henryulric]

Based on the video above, and for starters, he can articulate singular ideas and meanings which we usually don't see being articulated.@@rikardkaar3682

[@d1427]

The 'demon of nothingness' is in fact an angel or even God. He says he's glad not to know it but how can you be glad of not having something you don't know [although he's true to his never ending imagination and so, he can only imagine what 'nothingness' is like]. It is from nothingness that imagination and ideas arise but what is born in time, must vanish in time and only nothingness remains, as somethingness solid like a mountain, so full of peace, and stillness, to the brim. Nothingness is that, which if experienced, kills all the demons.

[@chadpilled7913]

Wrong. God is not nothingness. God is the fount of being Who pre-existed all creation. It is not from nothingness that anything arises. That is impossible being cannot come from non-being. God is eternal. There was never a time God did not exist. Nothingness, in fact as the name implies, also does not exist. It is a figment of the imagination. It is a mental placeholder, but it does not exist in any ontological sense.

[@d1427]

@@chadpilled7913 Counter WRONG!!! Proceeding by the way of conceptual logic takes you nowhere. God as nothingness can be known by being not by intellectual gymnastics. Nothingness is not the opposite of somethingness, which is a transitory notion anyway; nothingness is not not-being but being, that exists in eternity as God.

[@laoisemeehan]

I am glad someone pointed this out . Many are afraid of nothingness

[@d1427]

@@laoisemeehan They are afraid of that which they don't know but only can imagine, painting it in the darkest colors. Then they give reality to the imaginary and so, live afraid of their own shadow, which is... nothing.

[@visisius9339]

​@@d1427 there is no nothing or anything couldn't be... you're here and nothing isn't

[@AmyFerguson]

I think I like this recorded off a tv version better :)

[@stevecox7075]

Genius.

[@jerryesque3747]

I think everyone starts with all demons, but overcome some without really trying. Then the ones that are left are your biggest challenges. And if you manage to be brave and courageous and overcome them all. That's when you get the demon of the nothingness. How do you overcome that one?

[@alexanderrichter7921]

Beautiful written

[@ThomasMayer123-f8f]

Nothingness is what the buddhists teach is the highest of all states, emptiness, to take life as it comes.

[@mariarohmer2374]

Classic bad childhood, toxic family environment leaving scars for any child but far worse for a deeply sensitive soul. Poor man. At least he recognizes his flaws and is honest. Not many people do. In fact most do not.

[@botadragos6880]

He's just like me fr

[@ctrla31]

Thank you so much for sharing this beautiful content with us 💖💖

[@ardien.535]

I'm just like him but without any creative outlook of any kind

[@Altairific]

Sorry, Mr Ingmar, we can't hire you right now! Good luck on your ventures! We've found someone else who fits our vision: "Somehow, Palpatine Returned"

[@isaacolivecrona6114]

He spoke of demons in a very idiosyncratic way. He even spelt the word ‘demon’ (which is spelt in the same way in Swedish) as _dämon._

[@francisdec1615]

He also used the spelling 'Upsala', which is the old fashioned spelling but in this case the same as in modern English.

[@little.bear344]

That's me right now: the demon of nothingness- along with all of the other demons, but nothingness and meaningless are what don't scape me right now. Can't even believe in sleep and I have chronic insomnia, which makes ALL of the demons he mentioned even worse. I'm tired of numbing myself with drugs, alcohol and occult/mystical ideas to preoccupy my mind. Nothing works, all is nothingness to me. I have no one to blame but myself.

[@bugs_bunnie]

holy shit, my list is the same, with a little bit more in it

[@radushkaka5133]

yay, my guide thank you, Ingamr

[@thetruestrepairman7423]

"You can't waste time on irrelevant emotions"

[@AmyFerguson]

It would be a mess. Insanity, not art.

[@nicelooser]

Isn’t that what all artist are doing though? All of the ideas are irrelevant and emotions that don’t get us anywhere

[@neoncut]

He's speaking as an orderly demon. "There has to be peace, order, tranquility". That cuts out a lot of life. particularly the fun parts, don't you think?

[@eliakimjosephsophia4542]

Ingmar was from a war torn era.

[@Gerguzalbutzelnikoskech]

There was no war on Swedish ground for over 100 years by the time Ingmar was born.

[@Fistfury42]

So Europe was not war torned as a whole?

[@rantingsw3de]

@@Gerguzalbutzelnikoskech It was part of the collective zeitgeist.

[@TheHistoryguy10]

Bergman was an existentialist and tried to teach this form of philosophy through his movies. Notice that even his speech and the content is expressed in existentialist form. What a tortured man. He died in complete despair.

[@TheHistoryguy10]

You talk like one of Ingmar Bergman's demons. It's time to cast you out!

[@pspsvan65]

Vad är du för en otrevlig jävle !?

[@Johnconno]

@Daemon de Lampedueza. You need a to moderate your language young man! While you're at it go and have a good wash in the cool lake which lies not far from where you are now...

[@Sanag265]

Lion of Judah How do you know that Bergman died in complete despair?

[@michalslatina8004]

Lion of Judah-U R so out. I feel pity for u.

[@pekkaastrom7346]

What went wrong with the sound? Did you record this on a Super-8 from 1964...?

[@ToThoseWhoVanished]

To deal with all these we r here

[@clkvlk]

Religion used to be what brings all the disintegrated parts of ourselves together. Interesting that he was wise enough to call them demons to disassociate from his conscious self. But at the same time it hints at the helplessness of losing control when these forces swell up from the unconscious.

[@z-e-r-o-]

Can we write demons down? He can.

[@numerikproductions]

He suffered from many mental ilnesses obviously. Pain makes great films sometimes, like in his case.

[@jonrixbus]

Being a perfectionist in a chaotic world tests your sanity.

[@holofernez]

I need to find out what interview this is ! It was a long one, and used to be on KZbin.

[@robertogioia2735]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6vCXolnbtJjfck

[@DrayzoHD]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ7Je2iplNKshMk

[@hejsan5839290485]

finns detta i normal kvalité? Tack för pm

[@aleksandarstojceski3139]

At least i have something similar to Bergman.

[@dernayt2728]

I thought this video was about "the demons" book

[@lemonpulpmusic]

Here because of MCC

[@newwavex8665]

...havent heard lust yet

[@tsalviat]

quelqu'un d'ordinaire parlerait de son pessimisme, mais lui, il le cerne, le traque, l'autodérisione, et c'est un bonheur !

[@A_LeftyCatcher_Mitt]

May be his vargtimmen really affected his artistic life(we can see painter's monologue in this movie). I think there are many artists around the globe suffer from many things and ppl just don't care.mother earth had enough it needs to end

[@TheDeathOfPassion]

What is the full documentary?

[@DrayzoHD]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ7Je2iplNKshMk

[@pumpkinhill4570]

Same, same, same.

[@kevinevans8505]

Who says that emotions are irrational ?

[@little.bear344]

Psychologists, psychiatrists, therapists, etc. say so. When they become obsessions, they ARE irrational.

[@Thetesaj]

i don't understand this to any extent. what do demons symbolically represent? who is this man? please be generous in helping me understand this. whatever being said I find it profound but can't understand.

[@AmyFerguson]

He is an amazing director. (Perhaps not for everyone though) The demons are his psychological issues.

[@tersiaraath799]

I too dont know anything about him.

[@meloearth]

Seems to me that he has resorted in externalizing and impersonating his flaws so he has an excuse to not work on himself, at the detriment of those who have to share a life with him. I know that move. It works until it doesn't.

[@futuristica1710]

I feel seen 😓

[@kentinjivek]

Très très très intéressant…💯

[@TikuVsTaku]

“Demon of nothingness” is not a demon, it’s the opposite of that. ✌️

[@JohnBurman-l2l]

True consciousness is to know the entities that plague you...then love them.... that's all they want.

[@schnooleheletteletto]

This video is edited right? The note looks like sketch made to make it look like a 7yr old wrote it, Im pretty sure that isnt actually his note lol

[@martinaluisetti]

not edited

[@Mollmclea]

Older people's handwriting tends to look like this, in my experience.

[@widaAcK]

What did you do with you're life? Well I had a remarkebly strong passion or maybe just interest in visit those crossroads, eehhh quite often, probably, also 🌴

[@SeeTheManipulation]

*He was considered to be one of the greatest and most influential directors of all time. Being demonically controlled explains his fame and accolades. Jesus said, "what does it matter for a man to gain everything if he loses his soul?" Ingmar Bergman is a perfect example of this. May God have mercy on his soul.*

[@jennwebb7064]

MCC brought me here too.

[@i.k5143]

MCC?

[@jennwebb7064]

I.K - Magna Carta Cartel......

[@mathlogiclanguage9338]

Interesante

[@hunterluxton5976]

He thought too much.

[@yanaakopova3107]

Please if someone can do real translation...

[@j.f.bastian7118]

There's nothing wrong with this one.

[@francisdec1615]

It's a good translation except that they censored out all his swear words.

[@rantingsw3de]

@@francisdec1615 I count one and it hardly has any bearing on the translation.

[@berg4mot]

i think you forgot the demon of lust, anyway it doesn't matter now.

[@VelvetBulldozer]

Stavas inte Demon med E på svenska? I sina notiser stavade IB med Dämon

[@WayOfHaQodesh]

The man clearly needed deliverance.

[@FatalMatter-sz6gs]

You clearly need to stop being brainwashed by christianity and it's paranoid nonsense

[@andrealasagni-ih6nr]

Ciao ing

[@HP47]

Han glömde nämna den där intressanta böjelsen att han alltid ville stava ordet demon som ”dämon”.

[@_munkykok_]

*daemons

[@KB-on4kk]

You guys on here do know that these being serious right he actually does have demons

[@Milan_M95]

yes

[@covermaiden]

he mentioned all my demons wtf...but im not a genius

[@Burcakvie]

He probably is on the spectrum.

[@manalive2631]

What a drama queen.

[@Mollmclea]

that's how you become a dramatist...

[@anabell_lee]

these are always the best people in the world. I'm sorry for your empty soul.

[@manalive2631]

@@anabell_leeIt's not an empty soul, it's just not a whiny soul. This man was a celebrated and successful artist. He should have used his power to help people with real problems (war, famine, injustice, terminal illnesses, orphans, etc) instead of indulging in self pity over the most luxurious pet peeves and the mildest inconveniences.