Inoculating Agar and Grain in a SAB (Still Air Box)

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Midnight Mushroom Co.

Midnight Mushroom Co.

3 жыл бұрын

In this video was walk through exactly the steps involved in inoculating agar dishes and grain bags. We'll cover inoculating with Liquid Culture, Spore Syringe, Spore Print and Spore Swabs.
Here's are the timestamps for the different sections of the video.
1:16 - Building and preparing your SAB
4:55 - Inoculating Agar plates
10:05 - Using Parafilm to seal the Agar Plates
12:18 - How long does it take?
12:58 - Transferring away from contaminants/Expanding the mycelium
18:20 - Inoculating Grain Bags

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@MikeCanFly
@MikeCanFly 2 жыл бұрын
Ya...I used alcohol, and lit my lighting inside, and my box was air sealed with gloves.....it exploded. It was an awesome mad scientist experience. Lessons learned.
@calebtheshamen7033
@calebtheshamen7033 Жыл бұрын
I'm still gonna use alcohol
@Mushables
@Mushables Жыл бұрын
You still have hands?
@stitchywitchbritt2125
@stitchywitchbritt2125 Жыл бұрын
Lesson learned the hard way myself. 2nd degree burns on my neck and my hair is scorched to the scalp in some places. Bleach works fine, and alcohol on towel inside if any. Wipe items before putting in the box.
@lovelost28
@lovelost28 Жыл бұрын
lolll glad I'm not the only one, I just flashed my box like 2 or 3 weeks ago, my right hand is messed up but it healed now. Well, at least the box is extra sterilized from that flash. I actually thinking of a safer way to flash my box like that again because in my theory the flash will push any particles out and the heat will destroy any microbes inside.
@briannansnow1740
@briannansnow1740 Жыл бұрын
I did same lol-on a very small scale lol
@FOGGYFOO
@FOGGYFOO 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I've seen for this process. Thanks
@amitdebnath9625
@amitdebnath9625 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the information sir!! ❤️
@jolIyjoeker
@jolIyjoeker Жыл бұрын
For SAB holes if you take a 28oz food can and put it upside down on stove for a minute, and then in a well ventilated area using a glove use that to melt your holes. Clean melted plastic off of the can in between doing holes, works perfect!
@chicofromph33nix64
@chicofromph33nix64 11 ай бұрын
Freaking great tip... i was just thinking of what would work best.. thx for sharing that...
@bclark3614
@bclark3614 10 ай бұрын
This is an awesome little hack! Thanks for sharing it
@christophermccurry8039
@christophermccurry8039 7 ай бұрын
that is an absolutely brilliant tip for any newcomers that may not have a drill or hole saw. Wish I could like it twice.
@SillyWabbit120
@SillyWabbit120 6 ай бұрын
Hey does it Go through pretty easy or have to reheat a Couple times to make the hole? Also what size Tub do you recommend?
@jidun9478
@jidun9478 3 жыл бұрын
Really good work, thank you I really like your channel here, wish you had more🙂
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! I'm working on some more shorter videos about techniques and procedures I use. Simple stuff that keeps my processes going without too many issues.
@hillbillyherb
@hillbillyherb Жыл бұрын
Great demo!
@dianacoburn8269
@dianacoburn8269 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this easier for the novice low tec person
@DrGaryGreen
@DrGaryGreen 3 жыл бұрын
Bleach instead of alcohol. No boom. Great idea. Thank you.
@urmommaahugehoe
@urmommaahugehoe 3 жыл бұрын
Just make sure to not mix the two, bleach + alcohol = chloroform :)
@HavelockVetinarii
@HavelockVetinarii 3 жыл бұрын
@@urmommaahugehoe Whatever man I can handle my inhalants
@emilys2849
@emilys2849 3 жыл бұрын
@@HavelockVetinarii -how 0-0
@HavelockVetinarii
@HavelockVetinarii 3 жыл бұрын
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@user-_-404
@user-_-404 3 жыл бұрын
@@HavelockVetinarii lol
@toddwmac
@toddwmac 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate you going through these techniques w/out using your FH. I'm surprised how many YT channels go though basic techniques (like inoculating a bag) sitting in front of a flow hood. Not to those guys...viewers that have flow hoods don't need to learn how to inoculate grain bags. :) Appreciate your content.
@stephenwarrington9719
@stephenwarrington9719 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video dude!
@Aaron-my8dl
@Aaron-my8dl 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the free knowledge
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@wallmark321
@wallmark321 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@shawnwillis7561
@shawnwillis7561 2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered a couple grain bags with free agar plates. I've had so much trouble trying to make my own agar. I am soooooo glad I found an agar supply that is not only inexpensive, but so close to where I live. Can't wait to get order and get it growing
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@c.odubhlaoich2948
@c.odubhlaoich2948 2 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't be hard at all to make clean agar. Maybe it's where you're storing it that is making it dirty. Look at no-pour teks if you still have trouble, but put your agar in new (already sterile) ziplocks or even just spray the insides of already opened ones with alcohol or Lysol before putting in the plates.
@c.odubhlaoich2948
@c.odubhlaoich2948 Жыл бұрын
It's been a month so surely you've used yours already. But I should add..making clean agar is easy, especially with no-pours. Ordering clean agar won't help if technique is bad, and storage is bad.
@shawnwillis7561
@shawnwillis7561 Жыл бұрын
@@c.odubhlaoich2948 it's easier to keep grain from getting contaminated then agar. I think when making agar you almost have to have a flow hood, which I don't have yet. For now I have a s.a.b. Hopefully soon I'll be able to have the space for it.
@c.odubhlaoich2948
@c.odubhlaoich2948 Жыл бұрын
@@shawnwillis7561 Are you talking about for pouring or doing transfers? You only need an SAB for transfers, but like I mentioned, you can do no-pour agar which of course requires no SAB to make because it's already sterile inside the containers.
@dustinmoore1559
@dustinmoore1559 3 жыл бұрын
Hey your my long lost dad, well I'm following in your footsteps with mixology. My birthday is in June ive really needed a flow hood like yours.
@eljar3976
@eljar3976 3 жыл бұрын
you can build one yourself for around $180 son. Start saving your allowance, pick up a paper route this summer, and when you're ready some nice strangers on the internet will offer you some assistance
@Six_Foot_Two
@Six_Foot_Two 2 жыл бұрын
Mixology
@thetravelinglpn7092
@thetravelinglpn7092 2 жыл бұрын
It’s 1cc not ten. The whole syringe is 10 ccs. This could have confused a lot of new people
@jakewollin6262
@jakewollin6262 Жыл бұрын
Thank you I was confused
@SporeWhore661
@SporeWhore661 Ай бұрын
Got confused syringe is now in my ass, what do I do now?
@Paintingtube
@Paintingtube 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir 🙏🏼
@rudyruiz7962
@rudyruiz7962 3 жыл бұрын
I always refrain from working directly in the lid as most of the dirty particles like to chill there. I use a small shelf divider to work an inch or two above the lid
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 3 жыл бұрын
That's actually a great point!
@bigbrotheriswatching2680
@bigbrotheriswatching2680 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to try using a damp towel soaked in water with ~5% bleach to seal the floor of my SAB and just leave the lid off completely. I saw MycTyson using this method.
@mintislad3900
@mintislad3900 3 жыл бұрын
I lay aluminium foil down and wipe it down I don’t trust the lid
@christian9506
@christian9506 3 жыл бұрын
I usually use one of those grated cooking trays. Super cheap and available everywhere
@natedavis7750
@natedavis7750 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigbrotheriswatching2680 how did it work
@TheSporceror
@TheSporceror 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I haven't looked hard enough but I haven't heard anyone else mention not using an open flame in or near a SAB if you are using alcohol. It seems obvious now that you mention it but honestly don't know if I would have even thought about that. Thank you for the safety tip and for all the other awesome information you shared in this video!!!
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 3 жыл бұрын
It’ll definite cause some burnt eyebrows lol
@TheJessC
@TheJessC 3 жыл бұрын
90 second mycology mentioned it i believe.
@selvakumarrajendran9872
@selvakumarrajendran9872 3 жыл бұрын
That’s one really great safety tip I’ve heard no other videos mention . Thanks man for this video 🤘🏾
@michaelg8642
@michaelg8642 3 жыл бұрын
using a flame in the still air box also creates air flow because of the heat of the flame (convection)… so partly defeats the purpose of the SAB
@Mind69420
@Mind69420 2 жыл бұрын
We probably need some boom videos to go viral before this info will be widespread common sense. I've only heard horror stories on the shroomery forums.
@moonolyth
@moonolyth 5 ай бұрын
I have wanted to do this for some time. Just a thought, Sodium hypochlorite is a great disinfectant you can find it in Pool cleaning areas Lab content would be 80% but the pool stuff is great for many things. Used to clean well water and food products in major industrial areas. Also a main ingredient in killing fungus growth in wood framing such as under houses and basements... .. . (Perhaps not needed). Something more, I use a similar box for jewelry work to capture dust I keep the box right side up and silicone a picture frame glass to the top so you can see better.
@SketchybrainD
@SketchybrainD 2 жыл бұрын
I put pvc rings on my SAB that zip lock bags fit super tight on that act as sleeves so just my gloved hands and bags go in and it sits on a stainless steel surface. The bags are probably overkill but it sounded good at the time
@luciferslettuce
@luciferslettuce 3 жыл бұрын
Was that a spore syringe to agar transfer or was it live mycelium from liquidculture? I've tried LQ to agar before to see if it would work and haven't had any luck. Have you?
@kimberlydidia39
@kimberlydidia39 Жыл бұрын
I noticed your agar plates had condensation on them when you placed the spores on them and then sealed with the tape. How are they then stored? What temp? And the condensation is ok or does it need to be eliminated somehow? Thanks for the great videos!
@jongreen2311
@jongreen2311 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm going to make one of these but I was going to connect gloves but then seen what you said of it creating a billow effect pulling air in from the lid.. surely of my container has an air tight lid then that will avoid that?
@CMZneu
@CMZneu 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! what type of markers are you using because mine rub of when sprayed with 70% ISO? are you using water and bleach? what %? does bleach not rub the marker off? do you prefer bleach or alcohol, if so why?
@Enochulate88
@Enochulate88 Жыл бұрын
When it happens in the middle I do a break and shake. It works like a charm.
@Enochulate88
@Enochulate88 Жыл бұрын
#dontstabyoself
@WhoDeyWildcatsReds
@WhoDeyWildcatsReds 7 ай бұрын
Do you need to pull the liquid that is still in the needle back inside the syringe? I think i contaminated a syringe from improper technique after using and storing my needle
@davidluedeke3805
@davidluedeke3805 2 жыл бұрын
What temp. do you grow the plates, broth/liquid cultures and grain spawn? Do you store the broth and plates at 4C once you have the a culture grown in the medium and for how long do you store them at low temp?
@createurimage
@createurimage Жыл бұрын
A still air box can replace a flow hood completely? Thank you.
@Nape830rigge
@Nape830rigge 2 жыл бұрын
I made a syringe from a spore print and put way too much spores in it. I innoculated grain jars and it grew in 9 days from spore syringe
@WildernessMedic
@WildernessMedic Жыл бұрын
I don't get the upside down part. Look how much the lid you're working on is bowing up and down every time you move. Wouldn't that be creating a ton of air movement in and out?
@biggerdreams369
@biggerdreams369 Жыл бұрын
With this SAB, would you consider the environment to be semi-sterile as long as you didn't pull your arms out of the hole? If arms come out everything would need to be sterilized again correct?
@justinshivers261
@justinshivers261 Жыл бұрын
first grow. tried innoculating agar however, using the syringe I put way more than just a drop. did I done goof? I got extra agar just for contam so I could do agar to agar if need be.
@biofoundry481
@biofoundry481 3 жыл бұрын
At 20:15 you said 10cc's but I think you mean 1cc? 1cc=1ml (cc means cubic centimetres, aka 1L/1000)
@Six_Foot_Two
@Six_Foot_Two 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, syringe is only marked to 10cc's
@Donnydarko9912
@Donnydarko9912 Жыл бұрын
I worry about trying to grow mushrooms in a home where my dog is and there’s really no place that he doesn’t go what do you think about that
@Dylan-cy7cb
@Dylan-cy7cb 2 жыл бұрын
How long does it take in agar if u use a spore syringe?
@chicofromph33nix64
@chicofromph33nix64 11 ай бұрын
How much LC would you recommend for a 3lb grow bag...
@twoody6505
@twoody6505 2 жыл бұрын
Do you buy pre poured dishes?
@romeo5239
@romeo5239 2 жыл бұрын
Can you spray your arms with the alcohol to sterilize them?
@sonicfanremixteam
@sonicfanremixteam 2 жыл бұрын
Always was told not to fire up a torch inside of a sab because it ruins the point of still air.
@user-mo6vi9xb2r
@user-mo6vi9xb2r Жыл бұрын
I really like your work station , did you buy it somewhere or you built it you own? anyway I can get one for myself ?
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 Жыл бұрын
It’s from a lab equipment company called GermFree. I bought it on auction from a university
@coreyspah6291
@coreyspah6291 2 жыл бұрын
Dude you look exactly look Julian from Trailer Park Boys. Great Info Though!
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 2 жыл бұрын
Frig off Ricky!!
@robertmclean9737
@robertmclean9737 3 жыл бұрын
What do you folks think about putting a Injection port in the Petri Dish? Cheers
@Mizerka_
@Mizerka_ 2 жыл бұрын
Only if you're pouring your own agar and sterilising dishes
@foxwonderland8467
@foxwonderland8467 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you. I watch a lot of these videos and I enjoy your style. 🙏 Question, with 1/10ml syringe of liquid culture how many 5 pound bags of grain spawn can I inoculate? Some people say two bags so 10lbs of grain spawn and other people say they use very little and find great success with only using 2ml per 5lbs of grain spawn. So the 1/10ml liquid culture gives them 5/5lbs of grain spawn. Now that seems like too little to me and my next question was did those bags take forever to fully colonize? Or was it similar in time to how long day 2 bags so 5ml in each 5lbs bag took to fully colonize. But they never got back to me with the answer :(I understand people are busy and I just appreciate any advise I was given!:). So I was wondering what your take is? Also if I may ask another question, how much of a ready agar plate would you cut up and put into grain spawn? I know to use the nice middle sections that look the best, but to me I feel like I could use each agar/Petri dish for a few, maybe 2-4 bags 5lbs bags per Petri dish. Any thoughts? 🙏🤗🤩🙏🇨🇦🙏THANK YOU FOR ANY HELP YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH ME🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@Realistone69
@Realistone69 Жыл бұрын
How do you liquidize the culture?
@aidennymes6335
@aidennymes6335 3 жыл бұрын
those drops of ms solution went all over the place while you were wrapping the parafilm
@bartbrinkmann8101
@bartbrinkmann8101 Жыл бұрын
Great video. The main reason I haven't jumped into a still air box is that I don't want to do the nuclear method of 4" PVC into thick rubber gloves. I like your method of just sliding clean hands through the ports. Do you find that this still gives a pretty good success rate?
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 Жыл бұрын
Actually, a lot of people unknowingly set themselves up for failure installing thick gloves into the box. Gloves create a billows effect that pulls in air from around the lid of the SAB. So when you move your arms around with the gloves installed you’ll literally pulling in dirty air from outside the box. Having no gloves avoids this all together.
@jongreen2311
@jongreen2311 Жыл бұрын
@@midnightmushroomco.2091 What if the lid is air tight? Does this still apply?
@Enochulate88
@Enochulate88 Жыл бұрын
Bells on
@StanWatt.
@StanWatt. 3 жыл бұрын
What size (in litres, plz) is your SAB? Oh, btw, I subbed :)
@smallybiggzzz
@smallybiggzzz 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like it's around 88 quarts. You want somewhere between 80quarts to 120quarts max
@Washed_gamer
@Washed_gamer 3 жыл бұрын
Julian from tpb at it again
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 3 жыл бұрын
Frig off Ricky!!!
@AngieCee1
@AngieCee1 9 күн бұрын
😂
@davideluciano7761
@davideluciano7761 8 ай бұрын
Where u stored the syringe
@SillyWabbit120
@SillyWabbit120 6 ай бұрын
Hey What size Tub is that?
@MMMMSOMETHING
@MMMMSOMETHING 2 жыл бұрын
How long after sealing them would you inoculate it? The residual moisture left when it cools after shaking leaves grains wet. Would you let the bags sit a few days or use them.
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never had that be an issue. The moisture is drawn into the grain in about a day but I use them as soon as they cool down.
@SillyWabbit120
@SillyWabbit120 6 ай бұрын
Great Informational video! Thanks
@johnbermudez9932
@johnbermudez9932 3 жыл бұрын
Just Switched from still air box to flow hood. What would you say is better? I’ve had zero contamination with my still air box, but you have me worried about using my flow hood.
@davidluedeke3805
@davidluedeke3805 2 жыл бұрын
A flow hood is much better and you can likely use alcohol in it. The reason alcohol is bad in a SAB is the alcohol evaporates and sits in the box. Add a flame and BOOM! Well a gush at least. In a flow hood the vapor is pushed out.
@jakewollin6262
@jakewollin6262 Жыл бұрын
How many ccs do you inject?
@hopperthemarxist8533
@hopperthemarxist8533 2 жыл бұрын
I notice you didn’t flame torch the needle is that not necessary to do when injecting? I suppose the needle is already sterilized right out of the wrapper ?
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 2 жыл бұрын
Correct! They are typically gamma irradiated by the manufacturer. That’s why nurses don’t flame sterilize before giving you a shot. 🙂
@jgredy7
@jgredy7 2 жыл бұрын
would too much bleach solution inside the work area possibly get into things and cause problems? i understand the flammability aspect, but at least the alcohol evaporates away? i am new to this thanks for input!
@Blue-bf8lv
@Blue-bf8lv Жыл бұрын
I can't see why it would be an issue, with bleach, more the better
@OurKax
@OurKax 3 жыл бұрын
HELLO midnight mushroom - thanks a lot for this great video! what is the exact brand you used for the SAB trying to find it online. TY
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 3 жыл бұрын
It's literally just a plastic tote from Walmart and I used a 4" hole saw to cut the holes.
@jidun9478
@jidun9478 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are really overpriced online much better deals at the big box stores.
@whyunosubcribe433
@whyunosubcribe433 3 жыл бұрын
What is SAB?
@danaclass
@danaclass 2 жыл бұрын
@@whyunosubcribe433 Still air box
@LongDefiant
@LongDefiant 2 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend using a cell spreader for the liquid culture?
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 2 жыл бұрын
You could but I never do.
@Enochulate88
@Enochulate88 Жыл бұрын
Why does everyone else put the needle back on. I was assuming the way your doing it was correct without ever doing it. thanks
@CaptMang
@CaptMang 3 жыл бұрын
Does it matter if the parafilm is sterile? I noticed they were pre cut, meaning they definitely have contam. I guess that doesn't matter?
@chrisknechtel6730
@chrisknechtel6730 3 жыл бұрын
ideally the cut sides of the parafilm never come close to the opening of the containers... They stay closed, you can contaminate the outside surface all you want, the parafilm keeps it closed anyway. Never had a problem of contamination going across or through parafilm if that's what you're worried about
@Enochulate88
@Enochulate88 Жыл бұрын
No inoculation loop... Just straight up drop it... Lit. I still got a loop but I can do this also .
@Enochulate88
@Enochulate88 Жыл бұрын
Thanks definitely go to
@miguelsuarez-solis5027
@miguelsuarez-solis5027 2 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that keeping the SAB a bit moist helps fight contam as any spores that find their way in there can get caught in the condensation
@burymebelowawillowtree9243
@burymebelowawillowtree9243 2 жыл бұрын
So you just spray water inside?
@miguelsuarez-solis5027
@miguelsuarez-solis5027 2 жыл бұрын
@@burymebelowawillowtree9243 I spray isopropyl inside... Keeps it moist and clean... If I'm gonna work with flame then Clorox because I don't want a boom lol
@burymebelowawillowtree9243
@burymebelowawillowtree9243 2 жыл бұрын
@@miguelsuarez-solis5027 thanks!
@carlfranz
@carlfranz 2 жыл бұрын
@@miguelsuarez-solis5027 What mix of Clorox and water do you use?
@miguelsuarez-solis5027
@miguelsuarez-solis5027 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlfranz 2 tsp of Clorox to 2 cups of water
@lucasantonini7618
@lucasantonini7618 3 жыл бұрын
Why do people always put the box used to make SAB upside down? Thanks for the video, nice!
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke 3 жыл бұрын
They tend to be tapered and wider at the lid than the base. So flipping them gives you the most table area inside them
@lucasantonini7618
@lucasantonini7618 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke Humm, thats true! Thanks
@joshuahall8268
@joshuahall8268 2 жыл бұрын
Damn. Thought it was Julian from trailer park boys doing this video.
@sherwoodforestcoffeeestate8151
@sherwoodforestcoffeeestate8151 3 жыл бұрын
Is the tape you stick onto the bag just regular tape? Micropore tape or something else?
@TVideoupload
@TVideoupload 3 жыл бұрын
He used normal tape there, I believe his bag had an air exchange port up at the top but I’m not sure if it’s needed or not.( my guess is yes)
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 3 жыл бұрын
It's literally just regular packing tape. I've used injection ports but this honestly works just as well.
@christophermccurry8039
@christophermccurry8039 7 ай бұрын
If you are like my wife and allergic to bleach, dilute ammonia can also be used. Smells worse but kills mold all the same.
@fantastico4795
@fantastico4795 3 ай бұрын
Mi cepa perdió mucha calidad ¿ como puedo mejorarla ?
@claravale1756
@claravale1756 3 жыл бұрын
Do you not have to dry the bleach once it’s been sanitised?
@stephenwarrington9719
@stephenwarrington9719 3 жыл бұрын
You know him he doesn't like extra steps.😄
@saviorlife1
@saviorlife1 3 жыл бұрын
Should we spray the inside of the box when it's closed with Lysol to clean the air inside the Box
@NoName-dd5vq
@NoName-dd5vq 2 жыл бұрын
Lysol is more flammable.
@justinlemma134
@justinlemma134 3 жыл бұрын
When you use a lighter inside, doesn’t it pull dirty air in from the outside and create air movement?
@luciferslettuce
@luciferslettuce 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the SAB minimizes the amout of airflow though.
@anthonyroman131
@anthonyroman131 Жыл бұрын
Is that a 66qt box?
@SillyWabbit120
@SillyWabbit120 10 ай бұрын
So I’m lost! What can you do with the Agar when it’s fully inoculated?
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 9 ай бұрын
You would then cut up the agar with a sterile knife or scalpel and put into grain.
@SillyWabbit120
@SillyWabbit120 6 ай бұрын
Hey How much of the agar would you use for a 3lb bag of Grain? I’m in the middle of Putting an Order together on you site..Thanks
@jwild666
@jwild666 2 жыл бұрын
how do you grow paneullus stipticus? just colonize grain and cut sides of the bag?
@jameskenna1324
@jameskenna1324 2 жыл бұрын
I get my from an online store, they got shroom, psychedelic and microdosing products well refined, also ships to anywhere.
@jameskenna1324
@jameskenna1324 2 жыл бұрын
Mycopete.
@Allyourbase1990
@Allyourbase1990 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been considering making one of these . Until I have the money to buy it make one , does a small Hepa air filter work? And also do you keep the grain in the still air box until it’s fully colonized ?
@omarcuevas3048
@omarcuevas3048 2 жыл бұрын
It would be best to keep the bag in a dark and warm space. You want to find out what temperature is best for that particular mushroom but it's also pretty easy to create your own incubation chamber that allows you to control the temperature.
@sjewitt22
@sjewitt22 2 жыл бұрын
Is liquid mycelium just a older spore syringe? What's the difference in how they are made, and why would anyone choose a spore syringe if it takes longer to inoculate?
@Redweezle
@Redweezle 2 жыл бұрын
Spore syringe is easily acquired. Liquid culture is normally made from an existing fruiting body through a process that can be found on KZbin. Liquid culture is a nutrient rich suspension medium while a spore syringe is just sterile liquid that spores float in until use...from what I have observed. I started with spore syringes simply because it was the "novice starting point". With more research I moved to liquid culture and agar transfer.
@sjewitt22
@sjewitt22 2 жыл бұрын
@@Redweezle Thanks
@sjewitt22
@sjewitt22 2 жыл бұрын
@@Redweezle Is the reason people use a substrate for price reasons? Or is there another reason people don't just use a huge bag of grains for example and fruit using the spawn medium?
@seanmoran6683
@seanmoran6683 2 жыл бұрын
So I've always heard that the best mix of bleach and water for sterilization is 10/90. Is there a reason why you should use less or more?
@toddwmac
@toddwmac 2 жыл бұрын
You heard right and he is a bit off on a couple things. f you look at the label on any cleaner it will give you the optimal ratios. If someone does not believe the label, ask yourself this...why would they lower a ratio when increasing the raito would have you using more product and earning them more revenue. It makes no sense. Generally they will give you the best mix for the job at hand, One change to his video would be to let the bleach mixture dry. For the most part, none of these compounds kill on contact, they need time to penetrate the organism to kill it. Just like alcohol, you need to let the material sit for a bit before you wipe it down...if you do at all. In SAB work and when it comes to contam, slowing down a bit will go a long way.
@oddbod60
@oddbod60 Жыл бұрын
rare roachdoggjr spotted
@lukec2226
@lukec2226 3 жыл бұрын
I understood the iso alcohol solution was sterile once dry? You are spraying around like a fountain in that box.
@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr
@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr 3 жыл бұрын
Working inside a SAB you want the surfaces wet to hold down any potential airborne contaminates, in front of a LFH you want dry surfaces so airborne contaminant blow right by.
@michaellounds8295
@michaellounds8295 2 жыл бұрын
so the sab with the fixed gloves arent necessary? filering the air too much prior to work?
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 2 жыл бұрын
A SAB with attached gloves are actually worse. The gloves create a billows effect and will suck in air around the lid of the box. This completely defeats the purpose of a still air box.
@michaellounds8295
@michaellounds8295 2 жыл бұрын
@@midnightmushroomco.2091 thanks
@MDinhh
@MDinhh 3 жыл бұрын
Would you say this is possible?: Agar > Grain bag > 10 Grain bags > 100 bags > 1000 bags
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 3 жыл бұрын
That's absolutely possible! Mycelium expansion increases exponentially. You could then turn that into thousands of pounds of fresh mushrooms given enough space and resources.
@MDinhh
@MDinhh 3 жыл бұрын
@@midnightmushroomco.2091 Thanks for the reply!
@marandajenkins-wo3co
@marandajenkins-wo3co Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand please clear this up isn’t the air that’s in the box the same air as the room you are in??
@milesgrande8271
@milesgrande8271 2 жыл бұрын
So if you aren’t cleaning the air inside the box with Lysol or something how is that helping? Would it be any difffetwnt then cleaning the supplies with alcohol then doing it open air? The air inside is just as full of spores then the air outside I would assume right?? I’m actually wondering not trying to be an ass.
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a very valid question. In the open air there’s still air currents that carry spores and things around. Inside the still air box we try to let things settle and hopefully keep contaminants at a minimum.
@InesAzaiez
@InesAzaiez 3 жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for the video! What is the size of the holes please?
@emilys2849
@emilys2849 3 жыл бұрын
4”
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 3 жыл бұрын
Right, they are 4" holes. Just big enough to put your hand in.
@Purity262
@Purity262 Жыл бұрын
just use paper towel as the cloth?
@michaelab2549
@michaelab2549 Жыл бұрын
what ratio of bleach do you use with water?
@buttninjaflex
@buttninjaflex 2 ай бұрын
he said in the video to use a 50% bleach/water solution (1:1 ratio); I highly recommend NOT doing that as it's noxious. 1:10 bleach to water ratio is sufficient. You can google around for bleach concentrations needed for sanitizing. They'll often use even less than 1:10.
@edieseltzer4896
@edieseltzer4896 3 жыл бұрын
How long does an inoculated agar dish live?
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 3 жыл бұрын
It can take about 2-6 weeks for the fungus to grow out on the plate. If there are no signs of contamination I'll move them to the fridge. They can easily last 6 months in there. The only real issue is the agar drying out.
@cezarykowalski6849
@cezarykowalski6849 3 жыл бұрын
what did You add to agar cause its blue?
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 3 жыл бұрын
It's literally just blue food coloring. You can use any color you'd like.
@Platypus2012
@Platypus2012 2 жыл бұрын
Bleach takes time to work. Alcohol is fast acting. They work completely differently. Ideally bleach first, let dry, then alcohol to sterilize as you go. But it all works if you stay clean as you said.
@k-lab3824
@k-lab3824 Жыл бұрын
Alcohol sanitises it's doesn't sterilise.
@Platypus2012
@Platypus2012 Жыл бұрын
@@k-lab3824 Thank you. Sanitize not sterilize.
@whyunosubcribe433
@whyunosubcribe433 3 жыл бұрын
Is that grain pasteurized in some way?
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 3 жыл бұрын
It’s sterilized. Check my channel for a video on how to easily make grain spawn.
@jakobdenz1483
@jakobdenz1483 3 жыл бұрын
i feel like a idiot when i watch your videos
@C00kie137
@C00kie137 3 жыл бұрын
Everything is dripping wet with the bleach solution - how does this not kill off the spores?
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 3 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what you want it to do. Molds have spores. I’m not getting the bleach in the agar or bag. It’s simply to kill any mold or bacteria in the outside of the plates and bags.
@C00kie137
@C00kie137 3 жыл бұрын
I see. Still learning here. I would be worried about it dripping from my gloves or rolling off the lid or something.
@dougtan9429
@dougtan9429 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like you remove your right hand from the box several times to dispose of the parfintape....
@rico0402
@rico0402 3 жыл бұрын
do u turn on ur flow hood when u do this
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 3 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely!
@nikkifigueroa4441
@nikkifigueroa4441 2 жыл бұрын
What if in don't have one? Flow hood*
@c4ljr221
@c4ljr221 2 жыл бұрын
@@nikkifigueroa4441 if you just growing for fun here and there you don’t necessarily need one, the still air box a great idea but if you have a sterile work area with little air movement and take the precautions needed should be able to grow some mushrooms
@Paintingtube
@Paintingtube 3 жыл бұрын
How much amount of bleach do you mix with water into full amount in bottle spray?
@sedaeng
@sedaeng 3 жыл бұрын
thought he just said 50/50 in the video
@Paintingtube
@Paintingtube 3 жыл бұрын
@@sedaeng thank you sir 👍🏼
@jameskenna1324
@jameskenna1324 2 жыл бұрын
He's on Instagram with the below handle..
@jameskenna1324
@jameskenna1324 2 жыл бұрын
Mycopete.
@HellGod67
@HellGod67 Жыл бұрын
Not much of still air if your box sides are constantly flapping open.
@deanmerchant203
@deanmerchant203 Жыл бұрын
How’s micropore tape for wrapping plates?
@brandonhoward5659
@brandonhoward5659 3 жыл бұрын
Why 50/50 bleach? Isn't a 10-to-1 mixture sufficient?
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 3 жыл бұрын
It's honestly just personal preference. 10:1 works fine. Just test and see what works for you.
@bigbrotheriswatching2680
@bigbrotheriswatching2680 3 жыл бұрын
1 : 32 ratio is effective, that's 2 tablespoons per quart (a quart is 64 tablespoons) for disinfectant use. I like to go with 5-10% which would be about 1 : 16 or 4 tablespoons per quart.
@seannally7955
@seannally7955 2 жыл бұрын
Julian from trailer park boys wants his hair back
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 2 жыл бұрын
Smokes let’s go..
@kabutomushi-san8977
@kabutomushi-san8977 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there. How many liters is that box
@midnightmushroomco.2091
@midnightmushroomco.2091 3 жыл бұрын
I believe it's a 62L box.
@seanvan6377
@seanvan6377 6 ай бұрын
I think you meant 1cc x2, not 10cc twice
@tm0375
@tm0375 3 жыл бұрын
Why are you not trying to isolate genetics and be picky about where your taking your sample from agar? Are you trying to get a Monoculture?
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