[Easiest Ever Grain Tek] No Soak, No Boil, Grain Spawn for Growing Mushrooms

I use a no soak and no boil method (tek) of making grain spawn. By the name implies I do not soak or boil my grain before pressure cooking it. Let me know if you have any questions in the comments. Like and subscribe for more videos coming soon!
CORRECTION: I said 2 Micron in the video when I meant to say 0.2 micron.
** I meant to say 10T filter bags instead of 14T. **
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[@juliankeller5030]

contaminants are as small as .3? So why not .3 microns instead of 2?

[@midnightmushroomco.2091]

I did mean to say 0.2 micron not 2 micron. Sorrry! The T filters are 0.2 micron.

[@jbigg333]

If contaminants are .3 and the bag is .3, contaminants will enter. If the contaminants are as small as .3 and the bag is .2 micron then the won’t fit through the bag filter

[@juliankeller5030]

@@jbigg333 I meant to say that most contaminants, that ruin projects anyways, are larger than .3

[@willywonkaredford1845]

I contacted you for the agar plates I bought ten from you and you mentioned your grain bags and how you made to order and nothing sat around to long witch was a big deal in my eyes and that alone is big selling point for myself happy to deal with you I have a question about that Im trying to grow p.cubes and was wondering if the type of grain you use a good host for those types of strains

[@letslearnwithbob]

@@willywonkaredford1845 Plenty of info online. He is a gourmet company not medicinal. And to answer, any grain works.

[@gemsihara6025]

I like what he said, "I make it as simple as possible, because I don't like doing things that take longer than they should."

[@LanDarson]

“If this isn’t easy for you try something else.” Great advice.

[@sayhello2pedro]

After so watching so many grain spawn videos, finally someone mentions not having to have the pressure cooker on max. Love the minimalist approach, thank you

[@adamweber2107]

Seriously. This method is the way. It works. It's beautiful. No messing around soaking grain.

[@midnightmushroomco.2091]

Makes it so much easier!! It’s the only way I do it now.

[@popzvegas88]

Yo! This worked for me as well with quart jars! I did 1 pint of producers pride whole oats from TSC and 200ml of water. Came out damn near perfect. I would suggest to others to play around with it (try a couple different jars.. 150ml, 175ml, up to 225ml) and see what works best. Essentially doing the 75% water weight to oat weight worked for me as shown in the video.

[@Kreos87]

sick, i was cruising the comments for someone mentioning jars, ty. im going to try it next time i do up some grain jars.

[@Filte]

For metric folks slightly heavier bags: 1kg oats 750 ml water

[@samanthaventuro1197]

Seriously the most helpful verbal and visual explanations! You've just made my life so much happier, thank you :)

[@midnightmushroomco.2091]

Happy to help!

[@Stevelemontrudy]

This is an AWESOME way to do this. For anyone who wants to use quart jars, 8 oz oats and 3/4 cup water is perfect. When you put 8 oz of oats in you may say to yourself "hey I can fit a lot more oats in there", but after absorbing the water, the oats will expand, and 8 oz gives you just enough room to be able to shake your jars without issue. Thanks again for this technique.

[@MrCupcakes85]

Is 8oz of oats about 1.5 cups ? Just making sure...

[@thesuburbanelectric]

Can you go into more detail about how long you cook? I keep getting mush on the bottom and seemingly normal grain above.

[@bigshoots1181]

Would you do same amount for rye? Or a little more of water and rye?

[@thesuburbanelectric]

@Elliott Ergon Thanks Elliot. My guess is that this works better for bags than jars. I'm going to try putting in a double layer of a trivet and lids so that I can keep the jars entirely out of the water while retaining the 3 quarts of water sufficient for PC for 90 minutes. I suspect that the oatmeal effect is coming because the bottom of the jars are underwater and cooking.

[@thesuburbanelectric]

@Stephen Brockhoff, how long do you PC your jars for? I'm trying to replicate your success by precisely following your process

[@patrioticmisinformation7184]

You are a great teacher! I love seeing videos that simplify grain as much as this. All the rye teks that rinse and soak and a bunch of nonsense steered me wrong for a long time.

[@midnightmushroomco.2091]

It's a great time saver for sure!

[@expressyourvocals]

Does this process go for all grain?

[@TheQuest888]

Thanks a mil for taking the time and making the effort to make and upload this golden nugget! very much appreciated!

[@gp8699]

11:30 - 'Keep it at that (15psi) for 2 hours' - Thanks for all the detail in this video!

[@erichaley88]

Thank you so much for this video and this channel! I appreciate your products and your spreading of knowledge. Still have spawn growing from you that I bought about a year ago.

[@midnightmushroomco.2091]

Awesome glad it's helped!

[@tristaneye]

thanks you for explaining about melted bags

[@archiewebster5034]

really great info, no beating around the bush.

[@tdtrecordsmusic]

typically overcomplicated processes are extra. Problems are usually solved by doing the few correct things, NOT a million tiny touches that take forever.

[@midnightmushroomco.2091]

Right! I like to break from habitual processes that are only around because that's what everyone else is doing. When it's possible to do so of course! This method has been serving me well for years.

[@bulkmail9]

This is one of the stellar videos out there on bag procedure in a pressure cooker. A lot of videos whiz thru the part about how much water should be in the cooker, so I really dug how you took some time to show exactly where it should go and explained why. Oh, and it was great to see the bag folding done in a slow way too. Thanks a lot and keep up the great content!

[@midnightmushroomco.2091]

Thanks Steve! That's very encouraging. I like to discuss the little things because I've also noticed a lack of info.

[@jeremylord6167]

I use 4 nuts and bolts through the holes in the water spacer metal thing to raise in to 2 inches works great

[@muratyucedemir]

I always respect practical knowledge and try to apply what I learn. If you have a video about liquid culture, culture with agar and storing the produced cultures for a long time, I will look forward to it.

[@dadz6364]

This tek is a god send -Faster colonization times than soaking. I can already see mycelium forming at day 2 from a liquid culture soaking then drying sometimes takes 1 week to form -No prep time just drop'em in the pc. I used to soak them for 12 hours which makes them ferment and sometimes get contam. You just saved me a lot of time man keep it up!

[@ashsnell3763]

Love your style, simple done well is always best 🤙

[@veganvanlife5891]

This video saved me SOOO MUCH TIME!!!! Thank you!!

[@midnightmushroomco.2091]

Glad it helped!

[@e3z1]

Makes it look so simple

[@vabiogascorp2146]

Award for best music in a video!

[@claytonsmoking]

I haven't run grain in 3 years thiswas a nice refresher on water and grain ratios cause i totally forgot em

[@CALIFORNIASUNSHINE024]

Great video man wish you luck!

[@nathanieldking]

30seconds in already picked up good info. Thanks

[@MushroomMagicGrowing]

Trying this rn! Thanks! I keep forgetting my grains drying all the time so this should be clutch! Thanks!

[@pauloantunes8826]

I am gonna try this in my op. Thanks a lot for sharing!

[@asidp4s]

Thanks for the tip about the spacer!!

[@midnightmushroomco.2091]

You bet!

[@KevinJimenez-ok7nc]

Quality Content Right Here!

[@robk5745]

To me, this is the only way to do it, simple and reliable! Thank you for this!

[@deepvalley6698]

Aaaahhh, that is exactly the tutorial I needed. Thank you so much!!!!

[@tims.440]

Yeah this video was very helpful. Thanks!

[@robertanderson199313]

Thank you so much for this. Liked and subscribed

[@tech1media842]

love your video!! thank you for this.

[@EverythingMushroomandVegetable]

Definitely giving this a try 😍😍. Thank you

[@Calvin2030]

Thnx for the precise info mate👌

[@seanmiller292]

Do a video on that flow hood that things impressive

[@kraigthirty4991]

tape 3 quarters together on the rocker to keep from loosing steam. also look into partial pressure. i purge my cooker for 10 mins b4 i put cap on. im excited to try this no boil method thanks man!

[@NoBody420Psilocybin]

Thank you! 🙏 Much Love and Respect!

[@midnightmushroomco.2091]

You are so welcome

[@jay71512]

Gonna try this on my next batch! If it works its a game changer for me! Thx for the video!

[@midnightmushroomco.2091]

Awesome!

[@mollyjohnson4874]

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[@steve-o6937]

I love this , great to see sombody eles that doesn't soak grain, the nutrients is water soluble you loose so much nutrients by soaking it. Force hydration all the way, great video buddy.

[@midnightmushroomco.2091]

Yes! Thank you!

[@mikecurry6847]

If you were using oats in jars, would you keep the same ratio of grain to water? That ratio being 4 parts oats, 3 parts water.

[@rustblade5021]

i dont soak either but i do a simmer, it makes a huge difference i found.... and my buddy didnt believe me when i said my rye bags colonize in 7 days or less lol

[@riverside321]

sure learn alot , feel my operational awareness swelling and surging past others who one shant be in competition

[@danielsteenis2654]

Wow...thank you sooo much...what a time saver 😋

[@bernardwilson8394]

Awesome video by the way

[@midnightmushroomco.2091]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@dannyvazquez1104]

Great video

[@steveo6034]

I always keep a few extra gaskets on hand, I've learned my lesson thru the years that they fail at the most unexpected times lol

[@brentjones7294]

I’ve been searching this topic for two days. This is by far the best vid I have found, hands down! One question: at the end you let in a bit of air and mix up the grains while still warm and then seal it. Do you cut open the bag to inoculate? Or do you allow it to cool and then inoculate and seal? Thanks 🤙

[@CALIFORNIASUNSHINE024]

Let it cool first then inoculate and seal

[@markbattisti]

great content

[@mike_lives]

Omg you're amazing, thank you 👏👏👏

[@midnightmushroomco.2091]

You're welcome 😊

[@mattnsim]

I just did this tek last night. I love it because it’s easy to replicate and modify your hydration ratio if needed. I also like it because I’ve been using miller for a while now and as you know, millet is expensive. I’ve inoculate mine with liquid cultures of Phoenix oyster and pink oyster. I simply poked a hole in the bag and injected 20ml of lc into each bag. I then covered the hole left by the needle with tape. Cross fingers

[@carlfranz]

Matthew, how did the inoculation work out for you? How much LC did you use?

[@mikehancho1613]

You should do a video on all in 1 bag. I'm curious about the moisture content of the grain and substrate in 1 bag. Thanks for the knowledge

[@buddhanet.world777]

Yes!

[@mikenr]

Thank you SO much for sharing this!!! 🙂👍🏼

[@user-vt3si2zh6v]

Hey I'll refer you to a mate that sells them very reliable and ships discretely bought from him a couple of times

[@user-vt3si2zh6v]

👆👆

[@somarieterblanche5875]

You are just the best for sharing great advice and what you found works for you and saves so much time!!! I am definately going to give it a go. Great video, simple and easy to follow! Thank you so much.

[@Piratenbuchtpanik]

Thanks

[@kiya1104]

It was Great, Thanks

[@zingodingo2816]

I hope you put the plate back on. Nice vid, thanks.

[@locotx215]

Perfection !

[@Chris-uh3cm]

Great vid how about using rye berries

[@oluwasegunsalako5034]

Hello. Such a great video ☺️. I saw some maize cob on the floor budding whitish mushroom spawn and they are everywhere. Can they be made to produce spawn or not? If yes how?

[@krewlife333]

Your a god damn gentleman and a scholar sir!!!!!

[@user-od6mk9rn6o]

شكراً جزيلاً

[@adrihalut]

Thank you very much. If I were to prepare the grain to be inoculated with colonized agar, where would that fit in? Would I cool the grain inside the pressure cooker over night, open the bags in my sterile conditions, drop the agar in and heat seal?

[@spinospino1122]

Please! More video!

[@midnightmushroomco.2091]

Already working on it! Stay tuned!

[@peterayoub9151]

Great video all together. One question in the last part is it necessary to open the bag and let air in if you are going to seal it and remove the air out of it again ? I feel like i missing something but it seems like an unnecessary step that might lead to contamination.

[@narendrashamanur601]

Awesome! :) Can we do the same process with wheat grains to produce button mushrooms?

[@jpjacobs3425]

thank you

[@Classiclove1263]

I swear you have to deep dive to find these kind of videos.

[@geofftenoever9852]

Great video thanks , can save alot of effort & time Will this Tek for MIllet / Sorgum or Wild bird seed and pop corn ?too??

[@craigcooley]

Very cool approach… I used that exact presto cooker and did 4 bags exactly as you shared…. 24 hours later appears to be a tiny bit of condensation upper part of bags. But grain appears dry and perfectly hydrated…thoughts?

[@CheesieGamer]

Gracias ❤

[@alaa0al0z]

🤯 THIS SAVE SO MUCH TIME! I believe it will work with any other grain right?

[@jacobbragg9430]

For me 1 1/2 pounds h20 was to wet....I tried 1#5oz and that did the trick for me. Great tek though, saves a lot of time.

[@jasonjones5614]

Can you do the opening of the bag without a flowhood

[@sparkeyjones6261]

I've been wondering about the procedures detailed by many on forums and KZbin. They seem overly complex. The soaking, and the drying, etc. Can someone explain what would be the benefit over this method? 30 years ago I did something very similar to this in college, and it worked very well.

[@brownieblunts3767]

Could you do the same with quart widemouth jars? Thanks.

[@stefanbachrodt7072]

Nice and concise without all the YT hype, I like it. Subbed. Anyway, whole hulled oats is INSANELY expensive here in South Africa for some reason, and that's if you can even find it... I'm considering Wheat as a supplemental grain to the millet but there's not a whole lot of info out there on it

[@myco_chaotix]

You can use straw as a sub, if thats any cheaper ?:) Stamets talks about how to do this in different books of his

[@stefanbachrodt7072]

@@myco_chaotix cheers for that. I have a bunch of info on straw, including cold pasteurization techniques but haven't put any of it into practice. A bale of straw is 36ZAR or about 2 dollars so yeah, a heck of a lot cheaper. 😅 Transportation is an issue tho, shipping cost to an outlying area such as mine are pricey for large, heavy goods and I'm definitely not going to be stuffing bales of straw in my i10 either 🤣

[@addammadd]

Would this work for ball jars with filter and injection ports or would they need prehydrated grains in that instance you think?

[@salvatorelipari227]

Subscribed!

[@tacilus9491]

How would you recommend handling the opening and shaking step right at the end without access to a flow hood? Would you recommend sticking to jars as opposed to bags in that situation?

[@ccrust2111]

Do you let the presto on the stove cooldown in front of the flowhood? I fold like you do wondering if I'll have issues

[@doncar9]

leisurely !

[@AvatarMakusan]

Can you apply this same technique to using ball jars vs bags? Is there a ratio of grain to H20? Would a 1/4 tsp of gypsum added initially not be beneficial? Appreciate your KISS process...OUTSTANDING!!! 🙏🏼

[@rustyvessel5086]

2lbs grain to 1.5 lbs of water should be simple math at that point. But yes gypsum is beneficial to mycelium in spawn and substrate.

[@rico64vert]

great video. Just curious, do you inoculate with L.C. or agar, G.G.? What's you average conolization time per bag? Do the oats or millet colonize faster with this tek? TY for your time.

[@midnightmushroomco.2091]

It's honestly kind of hard to say. Both colonize at about the same speed (2ish weeks).

[@MAXLAMENACE2M03]

BRAVO.

[@alfiebatt9919]

I was wondering once your bags are done. You sealed the bags before cooling. What if u need to do a grain jar to bag transfer. Thanks

[@leonfazzio]

Does the plastic play a role in the process or would mason jars work?

[@SuperAjej]

How important is squeezing the air out before sealing?

[@TrissyCat21]

Atwood three washed oats don't ship to my area, seems they are oklahoma/arkansas/kansas. based. I'll look at my local feed stores and see what they have in stock

[@80polishprincess]

Well this would of saved me an entire day of work. Lol! I'm struggle to keep moisture in my jars and in my room.

[@DVDproducedit]

If I added cvg substrate to this would I work better with a multi spore syringe than LC?

[@DavidsonNF]

If you use jar are you putting a vent hole in the top? I saw Someone do a 1/4” vent hole with pillow stuffing stuffed in it.

[@g-lurk]

what kind of autoclave is that? and how many qts is it? Also, is that a certified commercial scale? Do you have, or can you make, an in depth video on your supplies? I'm currently using a 23qt PC for my sterilization, and just small kitchen scales..

[@TripodTyler]

Can you use the same weights for popcorn?

[@junerobinson1220]

Do we start the time when the rocker is at the appropriate steadiness or do we start the timer once it starts rocking period? I do have issues with melted/burst bags and was only successful when I lined the pressure cooker with aluminum foil. I already modified my trivet and I put 3 qts of water in the PC and sits right under the trivet. So what is my problem ? … heat too high maybe 🤔. My rocker does spin and rock around a little wild

[@jaykristensen1727]

Any reason this wouldn't work with grain jars as well? I'd assume as long the grain to water ratios were adjusted to account for what will fit in jars rather than bags it would otherwise give the same results, no?

[@garonco]

Can you take the same ratio for water to grain and make bigger bags like 5 lbs?

[@XxFuzzballsxX]

Could the oats be substituted for rye grains?

[@menkros1]

Fooking genius! 🍄

[@tobymaples7646]

can you post a link to that sealer? mine is on the fritz, and that one looks a lot nicer than mine.