INSANE "Woke Kindergarten" Experiment Fails Miserably

[@BeardOfRiker]

The idea of teaching about inclusivity and equality to kids on a high and general level is great. That said, paying $250k for this kind of program sounds like an obvious grift.

[@matthiasknutzen6061]

Hiring an org called woke is just brained though, and just going along with whatever bull they spew.

[@matthiasknutzen6061]

Lol why was my comment removed

[@BeardOfRiker]

@@matthiasknutzen6061 I’d love to know that myself. Replies to my comments disappear all the time. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@shadowprince4482]

Especially to kindergarteners. Seems a bit early. Reminds me of South Park when they teach safe sex to kindergarteners.

[@BeardOfRiker]

@@shadowprince4482 Teaching kindergarteners that even though people are different they should treat each other equally and with respect is entirely appropriate. I can’t fathom why anyone would think otherwise. I’m not talking about teaching the history of racism in the world.

[@haruruben]

Woke kindergarten is just where kids don’t take naps

[@henryglennon3864]

Bada bum tish!

[@dracocrusher]

Underrated joke

[@Jonathan-ic9ef]

I never got nap time in kindergarten. Or preschool, for that matter. Indiana schools be rough like that.

[@hughquigley5337]

Are you describing hell? That sounds like hell to me

[@haruruben]

@@Jonathan-ic9ef that means Indiana kindergartens are woke

[@Stinger430]

The funny thing is, "wokeness" doesn't need to be taught to kindergarteners. Those little kids already include everyone in their life. It's adults who teach kids to exclude others.

[@MOTHHMAN]

I 100% agree. I can see why it could be useful to teach inclusion to little kids so they don't, I don't know, fight over toys as much, but I agree that teaching "wokeness" specifically is really weird and too complex for kindergarteners to understand

[@roby.3428]

Facts.

[@OverthinkingConde]

"Funny" is a way to put it. But quite true

[@andjelabozic2317]

FR! THANK YOU! I remember when I was a kid, I had no concept of race, and never noticed the generic group(a redhead, a blonde, a Latina, a black girl and an Asian girl) in cartoons. They were all just people who got along with each other!

[@AychSkwaird]

Absolutely true. When we’re kids we have soup brains, we couldn’t comprehend any of that. I miss those times.

[@deadfr0g]

Who wants to bet they could’ve improved those test scores more by simply spending that money on a student breakfast and lunch program?

[@herb4n7egend]

or even investing into art programs or extracurriculars

[@SilverDragonJay]

exactly, no one cares about test scores. I know this because of how much of a fight it is to fund free school lunch, after school programs, extracurriculars, increase teacher pay, hire more teachers, open more schools, reduce class sizes, pay for new supplies/materials, etc despite the fact that it is well known American students underperform compared to students in other countries _and_ that these things would have a positive impact. Everyone cares when the test scores are down but no one really cares about fixing it. And I'm not necessarily talking about TYT here but more the people who would see a headline like that and performatively shake their head about the test scores being shit.

[@UOweMe]

Or paying teachers better and buying school supplies

[@twiggledowntown3564]

These are definitely the most important.

[@twiggledowntown3564]

Also where was this happening again?

[@torylva]

I mean, the first problem was that it is a for-profit organization. The obviously do not have any ideological purpose.

[@ysgatora9287]

yeah this sounds like an easy grift of "You need to keep hiring us, we haven't yet achieved better test scores"

[@FelisImpurrator]

No no, they have one, "daddy wants money-ism".

[@dinodare1605]

Public schools team up with for-profit organizations all the time to get any services that they can manage to acquire. The only good way to fix that is to actually fix that education infrastructure. My high school relied on a for-profit ACT tutoring service, which their entire business model was literally scaring people with the urgency of the ACT and charging families thousands and schools thousands more for help. But my high school was only able to afford it because it was a very well-off, homogenous, upper-middle-class suburban school district. My elementary and middle school (basically the opposite, like a Fresh Prince of Bel Air situation if you catch my drift) only had services that the state and district would send in for things like that... And it wasn't much, we'd have a week of standardized testing straight with no review material.

[@couldyou4745]

That's a moronic take. I can't defend what they're doing. I think it's stupid. But an entity can be ideologically motivated alongside being financially motivated. I get it might be a red flag. But it's not necessarily one way or the other , exclusively every time.

[@nerag7459]

'Give me money' is an ideology.

[@Skeptical_Numbat]

Are we sure this isn't an Onion article..?

[@tomisaacson2762]

I feel like reality and satire have been indistinguishable for a while now

[@neil2444]

The Babylon Bee more like it.

[@bvabildtrup]

It's too ridiculous to be satire

[@arthur8013]

School's plan to reveal the majesty of "The Nameless One" cause horrors beyond human comprehension to enter our realm. Test scores down 20%.

[@procrastinator99]

lmao

[@KenS1267]

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

[@matthewcaldwell8100]

@@KenS1267 Ooooh, so you're saying the students are now multilingual and experiencing new cultures. Well, that's nice.

[@commandercorl1544]

@@KenS1267 This reads like a Welsh sentence.

[@KenS1267]

@@matthewcaldwell8100 Don't forget the non euclidean geometry.

[@TheOrene]

Vaush trying to pronounce Spanish makes my furniture start floating

[@sleepyblue8]

Jesus 💀

[@brandons9027]

Lol. Dying

[@Sneaker3719]

I’m just glad we’re past coverage of the 2019 Bolivian coup. Hearing him try too hard to pronounce “Bolivia” in a Spanish way was terrible.

[@Johnyturmpet82]

Gringo PoV kekw

[@TheOrene]

@@Sneaker3719 the way he says lula da silva too

[@thesciguy4823]

Teacher here: The biggest insult is that there's an insinuation that we don't ALREADY KNOW how to remove barriers and haven't been trained since we became teachers on how to do it.

[@nm7425]

To be fair, the standard of teaching is not consistent across the country. For example, where I live you can be a teacher with a 2.75 GPA and many of the local teachers are some of the dumbest people you will ever encounter so it's not surprising to me that some are not trained.

[@FelisImpurrator]

Plenty of teachers have no clue. Especially if they're conservative and can therefore barely understand the most basic concepts about how anything works.

[@SorarikoMotone]

yeah, as insulting as it is - the standards within 'murica itself are not the same everywhere, so if one is lucky, they would be taught this, but if not - yeah, good luck lol. @@FelisImpurrator

[@truetech4158]

Interesting you'd touch on such a perspective that inadvertently causes added insulted to injury in classrooms and even after graduation. One time, a teacher did nothing other than to return to talking about what she was talking about, after the hulking school bully tim connors yelled to me to shut up and threatened to toss me from the 3 story window beside my desk in that classroom, but she should've said that sociopathic tossings of classmates never really produces smiley after lives in the sky, but she chose not to and basically failed the class on the learnt behavioral pattern demonstrated by that teacher in real time. None of the other students said nothing either, and tim connors could do no wrong throughout the year. Keeping in mind, tim's cousin is someone I saw encouraging some student to kick another student in the side of the head as the victim's head kept bouncing off the curb like a pinball repeatedly until I pulled the attacker away from their victim a few days prior to tim's threatening me to learn about effects of gravity on a systematically broken education system. Teach your students that acts of junk-$cience never really lets the victims on sidewalks get to respawn like in GTA1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 etc.

[@sjenkins91812]

You can certainly tell whoever came up with this had little to no educational experience.

[@stilltoomanyhats]

The students were diagnosed with hyperwokeemia.

[@tirushone6446]

"hyper meaning high, woke meaning nothing (it's meaningless), and E M I A meaning presence in blood, high wokeness presence in blood."

[@harryroadman1089]

Chubbyemu reference💯

[@josh-oo]

​@@tirushone6446 But if woke is nothing, then too much wokeness in the blood means... not enough of all the things blood should have in it?

[@xioussquid]

​@josh-oo "But surely this means the blood is more pure" they thought. "I will become even healthier" they thought.

[@tramaynepeterson2263]

​@tirushone6446 woke is a thing mate.

[@537monster]

I don’t even think I knew what Israel was when I was in kindergarten. In fact, I don’t even think I was aware of what countries actually were.

[@Gloomdrake]

At kindergarten age a lot of these kids aren’t even fully potty trained yet. They can barely look after themselves, let alone worry about geopolitics

[@SEVENTEENPOINT1]

I thought South America was a mirror dimension.

[@lokalcrow1470]

I work at a kindergarten: they can barely distinguish colors, count to ten, or name directions. I mean, the eldest have just learned how to speak, and they've only been walking for a year/year and a half. They don't even know what a map is, let alone read it or understand the concept of a country or city.

[@50043211]

@@lokalcrow1470Are you sure you work in a Kindergarten and not in a nursery? 🤔Because a 3 year old should use on average 1k words!

[@GapingGorble]

When I was in kindergarten I thought Europe was a city in Paris 🤷‍♂

[@dinodare1605]

Vaush using the right term for black hair textures (kinky) and then half of the chat correcting it to "knappy" (a racist term) made me die a little inside.

[@emexdizzy]

Yeah, I've also heard "afro-textured hair", though I usually default to "type 4" or "coily" (type 1 is straight, 2 is wavy, 3 is curly). I'm an anal little pedant, and I love the accuracy of "type 4". Words. Magical shit, they are.

[@dinodare1605]

@@emexdizzy I use the term "type 4" when I'm being relative, but I usually just say "kinky" or "afro hair." Personally, as someone who has what would be called 4c I think the distinction between kinky and curly is strong enough that I don't take curly as a label, since it's different in every practical way. But that's made people before, for some reason.

[@hannajung7512]

"kinky" is the not racist term? Picture me surprised. I knew the term only in context of... well... kinky s*x stuff... I would never have guessed that it is the prefered term for type 4 hair.

[@dinodare1605]

@@hannajung7512 Kinky is also a type of shape descriptor like "curly." There can be kinks in a line, meaning the direction of the line changes a lot. Some people like "coily" for type 4 hair. "Natural hair" has also become a way of saying black hair. But a lot of people have the same experience as you so I'll often use the other terms so that I'm not always explaining. The only part of it that really matters to me is that there's utility in distinguishing kinky hair from other "curly" hair. I've had people get legit mad at me for making the distinction, but they also had to lie to claim that there wasn't a practical difference at every level.

[@OverthinkingConde]

Woke + for profit + education. I don't see any contradictions whatsoever. No performative grift either.

[@filipmaly6603]

Well, if Cornbread tube has learned me anything is that as white person I can not have any opinion if there is POC somewhere. So here is my like.

[@hand13932]

the fuck are you on about @@filipmaly6603

[@justinreid2947]

And that's what shows the whole thing to be a fraud doesn't it? No matter how much this "program" obviously lifts from anarchist rhetoric, no real socialist or anarchist would run a for-profit consulting grift. Hell the whole point of radical things like zines, mutual aid, and Food Not Bombs is to *NOT* charge the disenfranchised a fee for knowledge and resources. Gatekeeping things like education behind a sermon is what evangelicals do, not socialists. I think this "Woke Kindergarten" grifter needs to learn what the unity of means and ends are because, clearly, they don't understand that. Or like Vaush says, this is just a psyop like Black Hammer that's exploiting an underfunded school district and is designed to make leftists look bad.

[@malum9478]

@@filipmaly6603 wtf are you talkin about bro

[@petem.3719]

Woke or no woke, education, corrections and water are three things in which the profit motive can only result in grift.

[@mecha5409]

The open tax fraud has me crying. That’s quite literally the instructions my drug dealer gives me lol

[@hadronoftheseus8829]

Pleas elaborate, if you're comfortable doing so. This sounds potentially grim but amusing.

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

​@@hadronoftheseus8829probably just standard tax fraud, it's why most drug dealers have some kind of part time job to write off on their taxes. Kinda hard to prove to the IRS how you have a house and a car without having a "job". So dealers will often hustle by working a few part time jobs they barely ever show up to.

[@kylegonewild]

@@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 Which is interesting because I've never met anyone who ever had to prove those things to the IRS.

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

@@kylegonewild they probably don't, they're probably just covering their bases. But it doesn't hurt to have an official income, just in case people start asking questions.

[@DevinMacGregor]

@@kylegonewild My late brother in law was audited every year. He was a handy man with no contractor license who owned a home, etc. He kept telling me how they were out to get him. I looked at him, Bruce, you have not had an actual job with a company for over 10 years now. All your current work is under the table.

[@jordanwhite8718]

The fact that I can’t tell whether this is a psyop or just a crazy person really scares me. I’m just expecting Cthulhu to pop out in any moment.

[@FayeFaye-]

C'thulu would be a saviour, an angel actually in these trying times

[@k0lpA]

get off drugs dude

[@FayeFaye-]

@@Torgan454 cia, because its horrible to think about what people are willing to do to you just based on a hunch. At least C'thulu wont trick you

[@methanemamba2461]

Guarantee this is a right wing op to attack "Wokism" (minorities)

[@sieg5857]

I don't think this is a real school, its definitely a right wing bit

[@harryroadman1089]

FAKE NEWS!

[@brettstarks1846]

I’ve seen some people joke that DEI is a white nationalist conspiracy to make whites hate minorities and leftists.

[@wileysells1279]

You should check out the Black poems. Someone was serious.

[@Talleyhoooo]

They have a patreon and no non-profit reports, by all means this isn’t even being funded by tax dollars

[@truetech4158]

@@Anaught-tbrk08 A web search can generally reveal the religious beliefs of famous and wannabe famous junk journalist$. How else can a mafia based on the gregorian calendar and a water walking harry potter type mythology fictional character find ways to punctuate all those presidential and UN speeches as they do? Those cement shoes never seem to walk on water, and those cement shoes and hypersonic missiles dont just make or sell themselves, they have cobblers. Carlin mentioned about those. During stockholm syndrome, they don't think and don't seem to care that schools programmed them into compliant narcissists for careers with awards for enabling.

[@chillghost2974]

wait you give kids in kindergarten tests? wtf, they should be playing around and being social

[@mekannatarry1929]

Gotta get em ready for work, man lol.

[@quorryraphael9980]

They gotta learn numbers and letters

[@ananousous]

The youth yearns for tiny desks & office cubicles

[@tybo103]

There's proficiency testing. It's not like write an essay on this book. It's helpful to have some sense of how well kids are learning basic concepts.

[@benjaminpeters6729]

Woke kindergarten is not necessarily targeted to kindergarten students.

[@sarahgreiner2694]

Them requesting people pick "friends and family" instead of "goods and services" is against PayPal's TOS. I wouldn't be surprised if the other payment platforms had the same sort of thing too. If the payment processors find that out, they're going to lose their accounts.

[@mr.frandy7692]

Hmmm, I'm going to help them find that out then...lol

[@jmarinotripp240]

@@mr.frandy7692how did it go?

[@TheStrayBun]

So many problems in education could be solved by doing three things: Prioritizing intrinsic motivation rather than heavily relying on methods using extrinsic motivation, adjusting how information is presented (such as telling history like a story as opposed to facts to be memorized and regurgitated), and treating kids like actual humans who are smarter than most people think. I say all this as someone who is going for a phd to become a professor and has some experience working in early childhood education and tutoring.

[@lildunacres]

While it's way different, I coached high school gymnastics as a volunteer. I was not employed by the school district in any way. I did this for 10 years, started and ran a club program, and ran several rec programs in that time. I did a ton of learning about childhood development and psychology, and I agree 💯%. As a matter of course, I had to do these things with my gymnasts- for us to survive and then thrive, and to keep the program running, I had to rely on them for manpower and brainpower, both. I wish school could be what you describe because it works! ❤

[@Astro2024]

The reason why education is the way it is is because it's geared towards people becoming factory workers or enlisting in the military. This model of education hasn't changed since the industrial revolution.

[@lildunacres]

@@Astro2024, yes, and that means the system needs to change. But we still need public education system to ensure that all our kids have access to a free quality education. Prioritizing intrinsic motivation would necessitate a change in the system, as would changing how we present new material. And treating students like actual humans with the ability to contribute to solutions would also lead to a change in the system. Man, if we included the students... think about the learning right there! We want to fix something, what do we do? We research and see who is doing education well. Now get students involved and they won't have the biases stopping them from wanting to create and implement ideas from other countries. We could finally change how the system works and gear it toward learning instead of creating those factory workers you speak of...

[@BeardOfRiker]

TYT was what got me paying closer attention to politics almost 10 years ago. I even was a member for a long time. Between reactions like this and Cenk running for POTUS, I bounced. Vaush is so much more level headed and sane.

[@kyzmit8980]

Same. I appreciate him watching shit like this for me, pausing it regularly so I can re-collect my brain almost every time it explodes, and usually saying almost all the same things I'm starting to rant about so I don't feel like I've slipped into some alternate universe.

[@savlosavage]

Yeah Ana has been a whole Jimmy Dore lately

[@brendanbirdfield1284]

It's easy to imagine a south park episode with cartman tricking a school into paying for his woke education course

[@jessicasparkles1619]

Haha! Exactly what I was thinking. Don't be surprised if you see it next on South park!

[@TheOldSchoolGamer93]

Yeah and Ike would probably start telling Kyle and their family about their "jewness" and Kyle would confront Cartman about it and as always Cartman would give his warped reasoning why.

[@squiddler7731]

I feel like the idea of trying to teach the Isreal-Palestine conflict to 5 year olds is really sad, cause it implies that we expect them to still be fighting a decade from now when those kids are old enough to vote

[@MagusMirificus]

in fairness, we COULD have been teaching it to high schoolers since like 1950 and that would have been the case.

[@dynamicworlds1]

​@@MagusMirificusif we had been teaching it since the 1950s maybe it wouldn't be going on anymore.

[@dynamicworlds1]

@squiddler it will be.

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

Nazis do try to teach Nazi stuff to kids, so it has to work both ways to balance out.

[@88mphDrBrown]

​@@dynamicworlds1 It seems pretty out of touch to think Americans might've solved the conflict.

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

My mom's a teacher: *Test scores go down with higher attendance because poorer performing students ATTEND!* That's not actually a bad thing. If your scores are low and your attendance is low, that means your highest performers are behind. Generally speaking, kids who like school do well and attend. Education testing & scoring gets complicated, but I wouldn't expect a program like this to raise test scores at all.

[@ryanmeagher6143]

That’s only a part of the problem. The main issue is that a whole program for five year olds is absurd. The kids should be educated and not indoctrinated. My kids don’t need to be taught about Karl Marx before they can spell his name lol.

[@judgedread4929]

​@@ryanmeagher6143they do need to learn about how the world works sociologically what are you clowns on about

[@dynamicworlds1]

+

[@andrewgreenwood9068]

There was a huge scandal a few years back in Australia where it was found that some schools were encouraging low performing students to not show up on days with tests

[@SnailSnail-lo4pm]

​@@judgedread4929they're 5, they don't even understand what sociogically means. Teach them later on in their lives, junior high at the very earliest.

[@kimura317]

this reminds me of the "Bonus Hole" and "Birthing Person" affairs in that Ana dug up the most obscure non-issue and produced a segment out of it

[@FelisImpurrator]

Bonus hole spotted in the TYT gas pipes.

[@jaredgreathouse3672]

Still never met a human being who says "bonus hole"

[@fromeveryting29]

@@jaredgreathouse3672Me neither. As a trans man I actually hate the term, have never used it or heard it used in daily speach/writing, because it implies that to «all» trans men that body part is a source of fun or whatever. In my experience most trans men have dysphoria about that and want nothing to do with it at all. I personally could only ever bring myself to call it «my original anatomy». A source of great horror that I wanted gone asap, and did. But, the term allows trans men who still have and even use that part to feel validated in speaking about their body in only male terms. The term has NEVER been intended or suggested to be used about womens bodies. It’s a term that linguistically masculinizes that part so that trans men specifically feel more validated, which is valuable. I mostly associate it with p*r* though. Kind of like how trans women might term their hole p*ss* to feel feminine. Not to call mens hole that. It would defeat the purpose. In the case of «pregnant people» it’s just medically accurate when speaking very generally about information that specifically perteins to them. Nobody has ever suggested replacing the term «woman» universally with «pregnant person» or «person with a womb» eirher. Ana has spun this up to nuclear reactionary levels out of transphobia, clearly.

[@FelisImpurrator]

@@fromeveryting29 It's like 90% a sex work thing, last I checked... And as a sex work thing it's kind of based actually.

[@toddpacker4683]

You can talk about stuff like this

[@everettmoore638]

This is just Anna’s Daily Wire audition tape

[@CasaHouse2205]

How does a kindergarten program influence test scores at all? Don't we start standardized tests in 1st grade?

[@JasonBoyce]

I don’t have kids and don’t have a strong memory of my first years at school but the idea of standardized tests in *first grade* sounds pretty gross

[@davitdavid7165]

Apperwntly applies to elementary school despite its name

[@toedrag-release]

Yes but you learn alot in JK and SK that if you do not learn you're fckd in grade 1. Like recognition of numbers and letters as basic addition and subtraction along with writing and phonetics

[@johnpoole3871]

3rd grade in my state.

[@dinodare1605]

I went to a pretty testy school district, and I don't remember having standardized tests that early.

[@tylerbailey9329]

As much as "Woke Kindergarten" is a gift to the right in and of itself, TYT's completely uncomprehensive analysis of it is also a gift.

[@crocodilerock4662]

6:30 I’m sure tax avoidance could be part of it, but as someone who uses PayPal a lot for buying stuff from artists, sending money as “friends and family” makes it so that the person SENDING the money is charged the transfer fee instead of the person receiving the money.

[@switchplays8059]

From what I've heard, artists will use friends and family to prevent the person from issuing a chargeback after the comission is done

[@crocodilerock4662]

@@switchplays8059 that too yeah

[@Mothromance]

Yeah but that’s not how it’s supposed to be used, *usually* when you buy a product the business is covering the fee of sending transactions. At a brick & mortar store, the store is paying some amount to visa &c for the transaction process.

[@crocodilerock4662]

@@Mothromance of course, yeah. Typically I’ve only done this with artists whom I trust and I don’t mind paying the Pennies for the fee. If a company or a fundraiser asks for “family and friend” exchanges, that’s red flag city

[@EroticInferno]

I thought there was no fee at all if you sent it via friends and family? :)

[@Lerasium]

this woke kindergarten thing looks like pysop and a massive grift.

[@emexdizzy]

I looked into it, Ki Gross does seem to have educational qualifications based on their LinkedIn, but works with "education entrepreneurs", and that capitalist shit makes me suspicious AF. For-profit education has its own inherent problems Gross seems unconcerned with, and the only person listed on Woke Kindergarten's "who we are" page is Gross themself, which is an ego trip I can't support. No one minority can do good work alone, you have to establish a diverse team, and as a cripple-punk, I find Gross's neglect of Disabled advocacy a telling red flag. Also, Gross, who I think is just Black, not Indigenous, seems way too comfortable for my liking with thinking they're somehow more connected to Land Back and Indigenous struggles as a result of their Black-ness then someone like me who's Irish-American and thus racialized white, and that's a problem IMO, because neither of us are qualified innately. The shit I know about Indigenous issues comes from Indigenous individuals and advocacy groups. A Black experience teaches you about your own experience, not an Indigenous one, and we're all settlers here if we aren't native, regardless how our ancestors came. if you're not Indigenous to the Americas and wanna align yourself with a pan-Indigenous struggle, you can't do the same appropriation shit white folks do, you go talk to Indigenous educators and get them on your org's team.

[@TheSurrealist.]

The whole thing smells like actual shit. They might have educational qualifications but that doesn’t exclude her from being a grifting pile of shit. They’re like a character that would have been in an episode of King of The Hill. It feels like an ego trip grift.

[@blarghblargh]

@@emexdizzy yeah, without looking at the details, they kinda strike me as a young person doesn't know that much political nuance yet, because they're 25 or whatever, but managed to score a pretty sweet consulting gig straight out of grad school (80k/yr). the whole TYT video seems to construct barely enough straw man to get angry at, and doesn't care about the actual details at all. like what % of the budget we're talking, what % of total school hours are being taken up by this program, what OTHER programs are in place to boost test scores, or even which grades are affected. lots of people seem to be left with the impression that kindergartners are both having scored tests, and are the ones being taught about unions and the gaza genocide, etc. there's 0% chance that picture is accurate.

[@KingBobXVI]

@@vanessaashford9203 - definitely a grift, but it really does _feel_ like a psyop. Like, maybe they're just actually crazy, but all of their talking points sound like right-wingers trying to attack what they think are leftist talking points, not actual leftist talking points. It's either right-wing psyop, or legitimate mental disorder.

[@WackyJack322]

Ana has just been getting worse and worse. Her whole shtick now is "I don't care if you're offended." She can't get through a story without getting defensive.

[@FelisImpurrator]

"I don't care if you're offended, but I AM"

[@Tribuneoftheplebs]

Cenk is way worse. At least she makes an argument based on her reactionary takes. Cenk just spews random gibberish that never makes any sense.

[@ananousous]

Can you really go on the "facts over feelings" rant after crying over le bonus hole?

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

I wonder which right-wing organization is funding her.

[@Regenmacher175]

TYT is likely strapped for cash and so Cenk and Ana are trying to cater to the far-right trolls in their comment section to keep a viable audience and also to stick it to people who have actual principles. They're a sad and pathetic bunch of reactionaries at this point.

[@dylan3488]

Bruh sounds like something The Bee would make up this is sad

[@dylan3488]

@@Anaught-tbrk08for real this site hits way too many buzzwords to not be some kind of grift

[@MrOnwisconsin2011]

The problem is kids dont understand the word whiteness as it is being used, so its just a bad idea all around to bring this to kids.

[@herb4n7egend]

yeah honestly idk who thought introducing heavily nuanced concepts to people in the single digits of age could have possibly been a good idea

[@GaliosUA]

"Whiteness" shouldn't be used even in higher circles as well as "blackness", etc. Those are inherently racist terms. There should be a better therm.

[@emexdizzy]

Oh, fuck no, no third grader is gonna understand how "white supremacy" in this context means "your dark skinned friends have to buy a special box sticky bandages if they want brown ones to match their skin tone because light skin is considered the default and the regular packs are all light skin colored".

[@theB3ver]

Dorks and idiots have always existed (grifters too) but news people choose to highlight what they want you to see, not what's most prevalent.

[@Yainteth]

This absolutely reads as a psyop

[@soilprepper2602]

But then someone inside the school system had to be in on it, or fell for it.

[@almosthelpless9374]

Everyone knows that you need to start the wokeness in daycare to maximize the benefits.

[@toedrag-release]

Because of the implication

[@badwolf3618]

​@@toedrag-release😳

[@Dogtrio]

I dont think cenk can say "we shouldnt teach kids about atrocities our country did" when he named his company "the young turks"

[@thaenaa]

Ana is just a reactionary at this point

[@BeardOfRiker]

100%

[@ThumbSipper]

Apparently it pays very well

[@ScotisticDad]

Lol. Touch grass.

[@synchronium24]

People who still think Ana is right wing at this point are 🤡 s.

[@GeteMachine]

I feel like shes going to be a Nazbol soon if she isnt already.

[@TheJasonBorn]

Math was not invented in the Middle East, it was discovered and developed at different times and in different places all over the world, and these discoveries and ideas eventually came together to give us what we collectively now call algebra. I'm sure the Egyptians would say it was invented in Africa and the Greeks would say it was in Europe, the Chinese China, the Incans South America. The term come from one of the words in a 830AD treatise by Al-Khwarizmi on linear and quadratic maths long after much of what we now call Algebra was ancient.

[@19Szabolcs91]

You are completely right about it. What Cenk probably was trying to say that the way we most commonly interact with these concepts, how it's expressed with numbers, the operator symbols and whatnot, WAS in fact popularized by the Arabs.

[@jellewijckmans4836]

While plenty of for the lack of a better term proto algebra existed before that point the simple fact is that algebra as a field of math did not exist before Al-khwarizmi and his peers started doing their work. It's not algebra until all the parts are assembled so algebra at the very least was actually very much invented and not discovered in the Middle east.

[@TheJasonBorn]

@@19Szabolcs91, there was far too much cross contamination for that to be factually true. It was collaborative across many peoples. Not all people from the middle east are Arab. Cenk was doing the ethnocentric aggrandizement thing, not the historically accurate thing, he does it quite often.

[@TheJasonBorn]

@@jellewijckmans4836 there is a better term for it, algebra. Even if it is very basic algebra it is still algebra, and it wasn't invented by any one person or people. It was invented multiple times in multiple places and as divergent ideas met up it grew. Stop twisting it in knots to prop up Cenk's self aggrandizing lie.

[@allekatrase3751]

Was the drop in test scores correlated with increased attendance? Just a thought that occured to me since the superintendent said the goal was to increase attendance and attendance increased. I'm extremely skeptical that this stupid program contributed to that, but if more students took the tests and those were students who typically hadn't even been attending before, could the drop in scores be correlated with increased attendance?

[@kyzmit8980]

I'm wondering if with the increased attendance they are getting more families involved in community services. It's easier to help a family if the school is able to help with the issues. I work at a Title 1 school and attendance is very important. If they're not there we can't try to teach them. If they don't have a good relationship with the school they don't feel comfortable reaching out with issues that they don't even realize they can get help with. A kid isn't showing up half the time? Maybe they're in a split housing situation and they don't have transportation from a location that's out of district some days. We can get special bussing coordinated. Maybe there's nobody able to care for them after school so some days they just have to go to grandma's all day. We can see about helping with aftercare. I'm curious about the community effect of this program. Not so curious what would happen if a non-batshit program was instituted because I'm part of my elementary's SEL team and am money not spent directly on math and reading. I even have some conversations with kindergarteners about racism occasionally. I've brought the kid who was being disruptive to the counselors to talk about how he can't concentrate because his aunt got into a car accident and the family car got totaled and parents were losing their jobs because of it and they didn't have power and his shoes are too small and making his feet hurt and somebody said something that reminded him about his uncle dying last month and... and... and... Having that kid at school is less a concern about his test scores than trying to make sure he has as much support and stability as we can provide and keeping his family engaged with the community so they can get all the services we can give them access to and make them aware of. Schools can't just be about "the 3 Rs"

[@SlickBaby309]

What is Ana Kasparian's obsession with talking about racism , only in the context that it "discriminates against white people"? 🤨

[@ZaoMedong-]

She’s a reactionary at heart.

[@CRSB00]

it comes from the same place that makes her highly offended on being called a "birthing person" even though nobody had called that until her meltdown

[@livingter5079]

She's not black, so she doesn't have the same lived experience of BIPOC to speak over them, so she speaks for herself.

[@LiLLaLa707]

This you can easily tell every story she chooses

[@jaredgreen2363]

This looks like a parody of leftists. And a good parody at that.

[@nekokillz]

Sooo. Heard ya like some horses

[@ZaoMedong-]

We already knew lol

[@elizabethfranklin7788]

As a person who used to watch them, it’s sad now I just get a chuckle and move on.

[@tubulartom666]

Vaush has something like a 1970s fit going on and I’m loving it.

[@hadronoftheseus8829]

He needs to grow the hair long enough to comb over his ears, and get some mirror sunglasses.

[@thesun6211]

This (literal) "Woke Kindergarten" sounds like an Actually Funny (but also pretty messed up) version of what Daily Wire and Babylon Bee attempt to professionally package and sell to the Fox News/OANN audience as Parody. 🤔🤔🤣

[@medscootsman8429]

LOOK AT MY HOARS MY HOARS IS AMAZING

[@Crouza]

Feels like the worst move the left ever made was deciding "whiteness" should be the general term of the racist constructs that prevail society on what is considers good/normal. Accurate as it is, it's way too easy for the common layman to get duped by people spinning it as part of their race. You can get pissed off at them for being dumb and not understanding the difference between being white and the concept of whiteness, but they are the vast majority in the country and they are the ones you need to win over in order for positive change to happen.

[@chiangkaishrek5123]

Plus the unhinged person that made this curriculum probably just doesn’t like white people and uses the word as a stand in for it, not even knowing the academic context

[@PerplexedPlayers]

Big agree, i would go so far as to say that "whiteness" simply invites people to presume that being white is the root of the problem. Regardless of intent choosing "whiteness" as the word to describe the problem is inadvertently racist...other leftists will balk at that, but I really think its true. People who would get angry at that notion are really not thinking very hard about how realistic it is for a group of people to react negatively to their race being used as a synonym for "bad things."

[@Kyle-vg2io]

It's not a matter of being dumb or being duped. It's a natural and reasonable assumption that the word "whiteness" being used in the context of discussing race and society, would be about white people.

[@dadbodenvy4247]

Still not sure why people think there's an organization called "the left" capable of consistently coordinating messaging on an international scale.

[@IMelkor42]

If someone said 'We have to oppose blackness', we'd think they were being pretty racist. There's no reason to consider statements about 'whiteness' to be any different. Saying it's 'academic' doesn't make it better, just makes it sound like academia has been taken over by woke racists

[@catis4]

The woke kindergaten person is trying to teach twitter leftism to kids. Also the fact that a teacher was reprimanded just for asking certain questions gives off "educate yourself" tweet response vibes.

[@diamondmx3076]

Keep in mind we only heard that from the perspective of the person who was kicked out. There are a lot of ways that conversation could have gone, some of them look bad for the program, some look bad for the teacher. We've all heard right wingers who were "just asking questions" Hell, I think the most likely case is a bit of both, the teacher was being unnecessarily confrontational in his questioning because he thought what was said was dumb, and the program staff who had said something dumb got real defensive about it and overreacted.

[@jabraun00]

vaush “I felt ugly, I felt worthless, I felt NEIGH”

[@noobwar4]

I'm calling in now. Anna saw how Jimmy Dores grifting made him a bunch of money and now she wants to do the same.

[@persebra]

Ana was sexually harassed or assaulted when she was out with her dog years ago and it changed her. there was also a case in NYC where a dog was killed by a homeless man when its owner was being attacked and she was offended by the response of the activist community there. tbh and fair, I agreed with her disgust at the activist's response. but she has changed but it is of a deeper nature. I think she is actually bitter. and frustrated. i definitely think she and Cenk are not who they were a few years ago. I remember her literally saying "I don't have a political home anymore: or something that. Ana is the executive producer of TYT, which proclaims itself "home of Progressives", its a big fucking deal when the producer of the show doesn't feel at home anymore. then it's just a grift to her.

[@ananousous]

​@@persebra She called herself "politically homeless" on the same podcast where she said she was now "afraid to talk to people outside [her] own race"

[@persebra]

@@ananousous Okay I missed that second part, very surprised that part didn't blow up the net.

[@Regenmacher175]

@@persebra Didn't she also mention at some point that she was suffering from depression or did I get that wrong? It would not be an excuse at all but it certainly would (in part) explain her change in attitude. I think at some point she also indicated that she was envious of Hasan's success online because he supposedly (in her opinion) just played video games all day and didn't do any work. At this point, she's a reactionary who frames a lot of stories from a right-wing perspective while claiming to be a progressive. It's meant to attract a new right-wing audience because TYT seems to be struggling financially.

[@commandercorl1544]

16:17 Vaush and Cenk having a polite conversation

[@Regenmacher175]

Man, I hope Cenk and Ana get some serious pushback on their right-wing shift. We've seen this movie too many times for people to not call this sh*t out at this point.

[@hairyrope1912]

Heard you're into horses

[@k0lpA]

AI horses to be precise

[@belkyhernandez8281]

The phrase "disrupt whiteness" is bad for the same reason "abolish the police" is bad. It's needlessly at best inflammatory and doesn't communicate anything of value to the general public. At worst, it is an accurate description of reactionary positions and should be resisted by all rational and moral people.

[@Piratewaffle43]

Vaush won this three way debate between himself, wokekindergarten, and TYT.

[@brightblackgrouse6236]

Quit horsing around!

[@SweetTaleTeller]

Actually, I know my experience is a lot different, but I'm a white boy with really curly soft hair, and I get people asking to touch it randomly all the time, so I understand why that may be annoying for people with fizzy hair, it definitely is a thing. I don't really understand why people want to touch other people's hair but maybe that's because I know it's annoying to be asked that. But ya, if I get unapologetically asked that frequently, I imagine it must be exceptionally annoying and frequent for fizzy-haired people. Maybe it's just because people like fluffy things idk.

[@Hadoichi]

I think people are curious. I don't think most people mean anything negative by it, I don't think they are intentionally trying to dehumanizing someone or anything. I think people just want to have their curiosity satisfied. Like the saying you have to tell kids, "look with your eyes not with your hands" it's pretty normal to want to experience things with all of your senses.

[@samuelhutchins7421]

sorry there were not any horses involved vaush :/

[@anndorothyfirmann4957]

I am white and my mom lived in Kinshasa for 10 years, when I was going there to visit her, many people asked or just straight up touched my hair. I understand it can be uncomfortable but it shows curiosity which is a great start.

[@txikitofandango]

The worker in the best position to assess every student's needs and advocate for them is the teacher. In countries that have their shit together, the teacher is not overworked, not bogged down with red tape, but enabled to work with parents and admins to address every kid's needs. The needs are couched around the primary mission of school, which is LITERACY. No means tested bullshit, everyone is included, the professionals are left to figure out how to respond to data involving at-risk populations.

[@BlackPhi1ip]

I love how Vaush read one article that had a little bit more information and then immediately played Ana’s video and the first sentence out of her mouth made it clear she didn’t do any further research lmao

[@corranhorn85]

Of course Ana finds a way to take the most reactionary angle on something she could have actually argued in good faith.

[@drewpeacock9087]

They chose to use "dismantle whiteness" on their elementary school program, they deserve a bit of reactionary backlash tbh

[@corranhorn85]

What? That's so stupid. Reactionary backlash isn't good because someone did a bad thing.@@drewpeacock9087

[@Fatsaver]

Horses

[@MrNuubstar]

This guy gotta stop horseing around.

[@bakenbeans420]

To be fair about the hair thing, anytime I shave my head, I get random people, usually young women, who ask if they can rub my head(I'm white). I think that is an immaturity/entitlement thing, and most the time, has nothing to do with racism.

[@fromeveryting29]

Probably yes. You know, everything that looks different to what you personally have and are used to feeling/seeing can seem exciting. That can mean looking a little extra long at someone who has a hair colour you rarely see, wanting to feel a new material or indeed wanting to feel the hair of someone with very different hair to yourself. Of course as an adult you should not really do that because you should respect peoples bounderies. But wanting to feel someones hair isn’t probably motivated by racism or other prejudice. It’s rude to do it or ask, though, because it might make the person feel like «an object of study» or whatever.

[@VENUSMOT]

well it's also because shaved hair is seen as out of the ordinary, no? it kinda just comes off like people trying to engage with something exotic to me

[@stuartsmith4369]

If attendence is up 20%, that means that 1 in 5 kids has not attended any previous classes. In that situation, a 4% reduction in test scores is surprisingly low.

[@SnailSnail-lo4pm]

It could also be due to people actually showing up to test. There's way too many factors that could contribute to the lowered test scores for it to be abt the wokeness.

[@coricognitions]

That is not what that statistic means even a little bit. It means that the total occurrence of class-missing has decreased by 20%.

[@stuartsmith4369]

@@coricognitions But that means that the extra students are ones who missed previous classes, or they would have been present. Yeah, it is less binary than I presented it, there are probably more kids who missed only some classes. The point is, if more kids are showing up, more kids are taking tests, and the ones who werent previously showing up will tend to be the worst prepared, furthest behind students, so one should expect average performance to drop.

[@BengtNordsten]

My thought as well. Maybe they believed that all their high-scoring kids were skipping school? 🤧 (Not totally unreasonable: when I was in HS, half our top students would cut classes and spend the afternoon smoking grass in the park. 🙂 Here we're talking elementary, sure, but maybe they too had other poorly controlled factors.)

[@bibsp3556]

That's an interesting point

[@datboiryancole670]

So called " United States" has me rolling still😂

[@drewpeacock9087]

It makes me think of a beatnik or slam poet or something lol

[@saturn_v42]

It's funny how Cenk brought up "removing discussions of slavery from textbooks" when the right frames that as "removing politics from classrooms," which is the thing he's trying to argue is good.

[@shaftomite007]

And Anna continues her slide to the Right,a la Matt Taibi, Glenn Greenewald, Jimmy Dore, Dave Rubin etc. The Trump years really broke her, like most of America

[@toddpacker4683]

What she was saying here wasn’t right wing, no one supports “woke kindergarten”

[@spyfire242]

​@@toddpacker4683it's more the fact they are covering it at all. What journalists choose to report on says a lot and this is giving ammunition for the right. "See, even TYT think this wokeness has gone too far" etc over inflating the issue and appealing to reactionary politics.

[@toddpacker4683]

@@spyfire242 that doesn’t mean anything, Vaush has covered insignificant stuff like this before and he’s covering it now by watching their footage and giving his opinions on it

[@spyfire242]

@@toddpacker4683 Yes it does. But I'm not gonna argue, have a nice life.

[@ellis7622]

@@spyfire242 “plzzzzzz don’t focus on the issues of the left! It’s only ok to critique the right!” No.

[@thepooz7205]

If you get kids who were not attending school to start attending, your average test scores ARE going to drop a bit. Those kids are behind!

[@YourXavier]

You got your logic in my ragebait!

[@fromulus]

The founder with the tik tok videos is one of the people that inadvertently helped Trump win in 2016. I mean, I get where they're coming from, but it's just too much. I was around when political correctness entered the public lexicon and became a point of political contention. It's wild to see where it has led in 35 years, but also disappointing. The extremes of both viewpoints, for and against, make me wince when I hear them speak. "Lost in the sauce" is quite appropriate.

[@PrinMasterGeneral]

Horse

[@Alien1375]

That awkward moment you out-Babylon Bee'd the Babylon Bee.

[@LastNameWasTaken]

woke kindergarten already exists. they teach kids about letters and colors, both of which are associated with the gay community

[@Bareq_99]

Truuuuuuue

[@justinbarros8836]

the art on that webpage is literally "graphic design is my passion"

[@onlyfacts4999]

Looks like a Republican psyop lol

[@TrepidDestiny]

Right? It sounds like a parody of left wing talking points and with an intentionally cringe tone.

[@basquat76]

Kindergarten in America seems to be very different then in the European country i live in. Because here it's all about them learning to be part of a class and socialize the kids. They draw pictures and take naps and stuff. They certainly doesn't learn about the line of Kings or big cultural movements.

[@xbabu142x]

Yeah man I went to Catholic private school in the UK and we had rainbows and gender neutral dolls and toys everywhere there since kids in kindergarten pretty much universally learn by socialization first. The reading and math was taught with animals and other kids things, so that it was effective at teaching a 5 year old. Mind you Catholic school was horrid, aught to be abolished imo, but even they didn't operate differently as a core concept.

[@jermh]

I watch around 75% of the main channel TYT videos since about 2016 and I had to turn this one off right after Cenk jumped in and didn’t push back on Ana’s framing at all.

[@s7robin105]

Grifters come in all shapes and forms. Taking advantage of the ignorance of old people who intend well but don’t know better

[@deathbird909]

I think part of the issue of why C&A are acting like they don't understand "Whiteness" is the fact that, especially now that the term is used more, it's often used in particularly wrong or even incoherent ways. I don't even think this is a new thing. There have always been members of the activist class, like the Woke Kindergarten person, who use sociological terms in ways that are novel, or just do not make sense. Even I feel like I understand Whiteness, but see some people use the term to essentially mean "White people", shifting between bailey and motte.

[@shadowprince4482]

When a South Park episode essentially becomes real life...

[@LimeyLassen]

It's possible this org is both a sincere AND a grift. People don't usually wake up in the morning and decide to become scammers, they start with self-deception and it evolves from there.

[@YangyChaddyDad]

The young turks is actually embarrassing at this point

[@cobaltprime9467]

Hey Vaush, are you looking into this for inspiration for your “private folder?” Maybe generate some fresh AI art staring horses. 🐴

[@fuzzymcwazzy1293]

It's kindergarten...who's counting test scores? Did they run out of star stickers?

[@xbabu142x]

Aside from Ana's unnecessary histrionics, the main thing is the kids gained no benefit, and 250k was spent out of the education budget in what sounds like a already underfunded district...

[@nyibol1609]

100% a psyop

[@kylegoldston]

Are kindergartners Racist? No. Do some kindergartners say and do racist things? Absolutely. Do some teachers pretend to not notice because " they don't know how to handle it " or don't want to acknowledge it? Absolutely. Should something be done about racism in schools? Absolutely.

[@FelisImpurrator]

Racist things like what? At that age? Do they just repeat things deep red Republican parents say around them?

[@SorarikoMotone]

tbf - yeah, since in most cases racism is a learned behavior, it will just start as roleplay of what parents and family members say. its not like they are themselves racist... yet. cuz lack of "deeper" understanding. but definitely a thing to note if it does happen@@FelisImpurrator

[@Jones-ke6bt]

What a garbage take.

[@BRAINSPLATTER16]

Not this. Not this LARPy Twitter shit. I don't mind teaching kids about how to not be pieces of shit (racist chief among them), just not adding in all this academic language that you will easily fuck up in teaching and lead kids to take the wrong impressions from.

[@judgedread4929]

​@@Jones-ke6btcope

[@k0lpA]

Can we talk about the horse AI thing ?

[@maverick9357]

And Loli too

[@shitpost.mp4345]

Neigh…oh shit im sorry. Nay.

[@DredgenStan]

The gas leak is back

[@GreyNimbus]

As a person with schizophrenia, I completely agree with Vaush on his analysis of the situation.

[@AssignedHuntHelper]

horse

[@Renderduck]

lolita

[@ursula-v]

David Graeber - "Debt: the First 5000 Years" - in resp to 32:10 We have lived in societies w/o money; barter has never happened historically, until AFTER money was already widely adopted (and people became alienated from each other)* Communities didn't barter their vegetables for meat, etc with each other - they gave / helped ppl get what they needed *Specifically, we only have MODERN examples of people resorting to barter

[@ursula-v]

*addendum Resorting to barter, like when the USSR fell, and so the people's money became effectively useless (aside from kindling) Essentially, the only reason people resort to barter is bc they are still operating in a capitalist mindset, everything is "an exchange" - not about building/supporting your community

[@SpecialBlanket]

yes the hair touching thing is real, i teach elementary and had to intervene last term on a bunch of little white kids wyling out about some little black girl's hair! including a little kid making fun of it. i agree that their speech pattern seems mildly psychotic. good pattern matching

[@misterwin2393]

I love Vaush calling on the spirit of Kyle Kulinsky for patience, then IMMEDIATELY going all in on the Aging Pianist metaphor 🤣

[@stevemadrid6522]

What standardized tests are schools giving in kindergarten?

[@midnightmadness6344]

I thought they were talking about the elementary school overall, so like K-5th grade.

[@stevemadrid6522]

@@midnightmadness6344 Watching the video. Yeah, woke kindergarten is apparently elementary school.

[@wfjhDUI]

12:51 There's a similar bit in American Fiction about what it means to write a "Black book". You know what it means and you know why we can't say what it means. If you keep creating trouble like this then you'll be expelled for your subversion and treachery.

[@maxx_thedragondominator]

Rashard Richey has a program literally on their network talking about whiteness and "I wish a Karen would" segments. He definitely could explain to them what "whiteness" means.

[@ellis7622]

He’s also completely psychotic

[@vick1873]

That website looks like someone took a web 2.0 framework and shoved web 1.0 Geocities webpages inside it. I'm surprised there weren't any "under construction" gifs.

[@lobocharity]

18:15 average hasan fan

[@YourLoyalDeserter]

It shouldn’t be about teaching kindergarteners about academic theories on whiteness and colonization and all that. They won’t understand that anyway. It should be about teaching them the basic humanitarian values required to engage with that stuff later when they can actually understand it