Inside Brexit: How Britain lost Europe | FT Features

[@FinancialTimes]

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[@wingsfan1450]

Lol yes no science ever in the UK prior to joining the common market. Get real.

[@patrickeh696]

Science will now thrive in the UK without anti-science leftists from the EU smothering it.

[@rawprawn8198]

Wrong question. Can the EU survive without the UK?

[@patrickeh696]

@@rawprawn8198 If the past is a guide the answer to your question is a big fat, NO!

[@patrickeh696]

@Jayke S You'll bite what moron? Study HISTORY.

[@eriksau]

"It's the shock of finding yourself back in control again". 6 years on I still beg to differ. "By taking back control we have exposed to the world that we're out of control." (Jonathan Pie)

[@MrMichaelhall1991]

5 years later we're still waiting to see how Brexit will benefit the UK

[@luvabhi3]

Wait 5 decades and you will most likely not find much.

[@paologat]

@@luvabhi3 well, with five decades of economic pain and political decline, Brexit might actually manage to rid England of its exceptionalism, this would be a great Brexit dividend.

[@BeBe-vh4ry]

It massively winds up people like you, that's a big intangible benefit 😂👍🏻

[@Matt-kq3ks]

So if life is harder for you, that's worth it because it upsets certain people?

[@patrickkolawole4104]

Isolators statehood’s what BREXIT brought for UK, as Sainsbury Stores’s shelves near empty of daily needs and what are on shelves are skyrocket prices.

[@alelooooooya]

5:20 exactly, well summarised! 7:30 the joke is that what most people complain about in the UK is immigration from non EU countries which are culturally more different... Being out of Schengen, the UK already has the power to control that non EU migration, yet, it does nothing. It's an internal issue, leaving the EU will not change the UKs current attitude towards migration coming from common wealth countries, for example.

[@mogznwaz]

There are SIX MILLION EU CITIZENS in the UK who have applied for settled status. That’s just the ones who applied not the ones who haven’t or who have come and gone over the years. If you think this has not had a significant impact on its own you are mistaken. It’s not just the sex traffickers and pickpocket gangs and the ‘new EU citizens’ from outside the EU who gained the right to live in the UK because EU passports were being given out like sweets, it’s the pressure on housing, schools, hospitals and everything else. Non EU immigration is a problem, yes, but that doesn’t mean mass immigration from Eastern Europe was ok either. The balance was grotesquely out of whack. At least 6 million EU citizens in the UK and only half of that of uk citizens across the whole EU the vast majority of whom in high paying jobs or retirees not low skilled people claiming benefits and sending money out of our country back home including child benefit for kids who don’t even live in the UK! A travesty frankly. Oh and you are wrong about being able to control it. The EU rules are that you can *ask’ people to leave voluntarily if they don’t have jobs etc but they don’t have to comply. If you take legal action to deport them you have to prove they are a clear and present danger to national security and the lawyers always win because clear and present danger basically means ‘terrorist’ so even scummy rapists, muggers, burglars, murderers etc we had to let them stay.

[@SpitfireMLG]

You’re right.

[@lawsonj39]

"The shock of being back in control again." LOL. More like the shock of being completely out of control of anything.

[@rasterboy995]

Would love them to interview these same people and ask their thoughts now. Would be very interesting if they felt the same way.

[@MauriatOttolink]

They'd just wriggle and prevaricate, insisting that lead can turned into gold.

[@MickTShaft]

@@MauriatOttolink Twat Twat Twat, it's funny how your first, middle and last names are Twat! Only a Twat would say "prevaricate" and "insisting that lead can turned into gold"! A famous quote by a great man: "Get Brexit Done!" pmsl ;-)

[@jbond5834]

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[@timlester4510]

That patient analogy at the end has not aged well.

[@ajnfire]

Ask Nigel Farage please

[@msSnilloc]

I was speaking to someone who was at an event in the European Court of Justice. When the topic of Brexit came up there was no sense of anger or that the UK is getting what they deserve. The only emotion was sadness. A deep sadness for what has happened. :(

[@mrbearbear83]

It is deeply sad. Watching the EU move on to other things and forgetting the uk is very sad

[@patrickporter1864]

Never underestimare the stupidity of people in large mobs who have Russian money.

[@rb1062]

​@@patrickporter1864 All 16 million of them

[@maxkuijper000]

Accurate

[@JuniorJuni070]

Lol.. you wanna cwy 😢you left us like a bunch of traitors..

[@exwhyz33]

David Cameron simply thought he could re-apply his Scottish Independent referendum project-fear tactics as a strategy for Brexit. Well, he failed.

[@grazzer88]

A shame he turned out to be right in the end.

[@999cosmos]

You are right in that he was probably arrogant enough to think it was a "lay down misere", but I think the real reasons were to avoid a split in the Tory party and to stop UKIP, which was getting close the a FPTP critical mass.

[@gemrouf]

LOL. Try how the EU lost Britain. Season II how the EU lost France and Italy....

[@stephenmcdonagh2795]

It's quite funny how Cameron and his weak attempt at a better deal, was ignored by the EU and both paid the price of their hubris. They did it to themselves. Hilarious.

[@lionsroar9811]

@@grazzer88 how can you be right about something that hasn't happened yet voting remain is like turkeys voting for christmas. The pound sterling soared when Boris won the election

[@alexsteven.m6414]

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[@yolanderiche7476]

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[@valeriepierre9778]

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[@alexsteven.m6414]

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[@gweilo965]

We didn't loose Europe , we fought tooth and nail to get out.

[@janethomas7584]

Lose

[@Thor.Jorgensen]

Fought about as hard to get in? Need I remind you the number of times you were vetoed to stay out? You never wanted to be part of the EU to cooperate in unison with other European countries. You expected to rule them all and profit from it. And you were shocked when you realized that you discovered that power was distributed equally among countries, rather than exclusively to the once Great Britain. And shocked when you discovered that the EU was to the benefit of all, and not just the UK. But if you truly are the great champions of democracy and freedom as you claim, then let Scotland and Northern Ireland vote.

[@fwof3347]

@@Thor.Jorgensen The UK are going, watch the beloved EU try and find the extra funds.... watch the EU cut back on funded resource ... the UK will laugh at the pathetic EU

[@Thor.Jorgensen]

​@@fwof3347 Sure, whatever. The EU doesn't have to fund the UK's NHS or farmers anymore either, or everything else listed at myeu.uk But will you let Scotland and Northern Ireland vote? You're not hypocrites after all, right?

[@MADDOXXXbr]

exactly

[@Tony-pk6ql]

ROFL- the people have spoken, yet again, in the December 2019 election.

[@margaretgordon7481]

Indeed, with another hooky election... 🙄🙄

[@angelahayes24]

@James Oh hahahaha

[@deancookson9206]

@James Oh And look at that - 2 weeks later: - The German economy has stagnated. - The EU economy is in decline. - The GBP is strengthening. - The UK has re-established Malaysia back into the Commonwealth. - The IMF have projected a better economic growth rate for Britain than the EU. - Dutch, Danish & Irish MEP's are scrambling to build relationships to improve their influence within the EU parliment (now that Britain is no longer around to demand that the French & the Germans listen to them). - The French yellow vests are still rioting (even though the BBC aren't publicising it - I wonder why that is?). And your still sat their acting like Brexiters are the mindless, brainwashed sheep 😂 Bless your little cotton socks!

[@SonOfExcess]

@@margaretgordon7481 which part of it was 'hooky' exactly? Or are you just saying that because you lost?

[@margaretgordon7481]

@@SonOfExcess yes, of course. I can't stand losing. I'm just whiney like a baby. I just love to subvert democracy. If I can't get my own way then I want as many reruns until I get a result I want and then say that's enough to make sure I get what I want. I just want democracy to go my way as all whiney lefty remoaners want. There, I save you 3 aneurysm filled minutes writing the usual drone on that usually gets written against anyone who doesn't agree with your position. I hope you thank me 😎

[@robtyman4281]

London is now well on the way to losing its status as Europe's no. 1 financial capital. It no longer has the largest stock exchange in Europe - that's now in Paris. Those who said London would maintain its status as the financial capital of Europe despite Brexit were either naive or just people who refuse to see the reality of what Brexit has done....not just to London, but to the UK in general. By 2030 London will most likely no longer be the financial capital of Europe. It'll be either Paris or Amsterdam. Not Frankfurt. People will soon see the ridiculousness of having a financial capital of Europe in a country that's not in the EU. In fact many are starting to see this already.

[@mogznwaz]

Wrong wrong wrong.

[@robtyman4281]

@@mogznwaz ...no, you're the one who's wrong. If we can't work with other European countries in a mature and collaborative way, then I'm sorry to say this, but our businesses will lose out - heavily. This will then have a knock on effect on the whole UK economy....which in turn will see the large investment banks move jobs out of London and to cities such as Paris and Amsterdam. This WILL happen unless the UK government start getting on with the rest of Europe more, and stop fighting it. The main markets for most UK businesses are in EU countries, or wider Europe in general. This is a fact!! The main markets for them are NOT Australia or America or India - but EU countries....aswell as others such as Switzerland and Norway. Until our government realises all of this, and that they need to buck up their ideas and work WITH other European countries, and not AGAINST them - the better. It's only going to rebound on us otherwise. We no longer have the power to 'shape the world' to our benefit - yet most Brexit voters are of the opinion that we do. We don't. Speaking of Brexit, it's looking more and more like one of the stupidest decisions and costliest of mistakes in British history. It's been an absolute colossal own goal.

[@mogznwaz]

@@robtyman4281 I think you are ignorant of what’s actually going on. But do continue to be a puppet of the elites and a slavish believer of Remainer propaganda. Please look up what the EU is attempting to do re ‘equivalence’ - it’s refusing equivalence to the UK that has been in place with the USA without issue for YEARS. Blatant anti competitive move. It’s also trying to pass laws to FORCE companies to use EU centres rather than London because they won’t go voluntarily. The exodus never happened. They are being warned this move will backfire and the only beneficiary will be the USA. If the UK is so insignificant and unimportant why resort to such measures at all? Oh and are you also aware that in international trade it’s common for companies to set up satellite offices across jurisdictions. UK companies will set up satellites in the EU AND EU COMPANIES ARE DOING THE SAME IN THE UK. Because funnily enough the UK is still a major global economy and a large customer. Oh and another thing. The hysterical headlines about negative forecasts are great remain fodder but the UK has consistently outperformed all forecasts. The UK grew again but Germany is now officially in recession. Where are the hysterical headlines about THAT?

[@Paul-hl8yg]

@@robtyman4281 The eu is an unDemocratic farce. No eu citizen has any control over the elites that run it. Democracy is when the People control those in power over them. Having the vote, a voice to make change. None of that within the eu, no vote or voice over those eu elites. Mep's do not hold the power!

[@briancohenthepfjmassive.4769]

Brexit means the break up of the act of union and the implosion of the Tory party. Apart from the "pick your own farm's" I don't know of any other benefits .

[@VS-qh7st]

We didn't get kicked out, we left. Stop twisting facts to push your own agendas.

[@helenaville5939]

You got kicked out when the member states of the EU collectively refused to grant you any special conditions despite Cameron's pleas that he would lose the referendum unless granted these special conditions. You may also have noticed that since the Brexit vote you have been repeatedly told to hurry up and pack your bags but you keep delaying your leaving. Clearly the UK is not as important to the EU as it believed itself to be.

[@t8506]

+Helenaville Your brain cell doesn't seem to be working...

[@dunholm1]

+Helenaville. The UK is the EUs largest single market. We buy far more from them than they do from us. For example, around 20% of German cars come here, so any juvenile trade war would have an impact on them too, not just financially, but also in jobs. And we don't want "special conditions", just fairness. Other countries have free or low tariff deals with the EU, so why not us? Spite and revenge is why. Pathetic.

[@TonyFisherPuzzles]

How is that kicked out?

[@erniejrogers2475]

Exactly if the EU want to put tax on our goods then we will do the same to their goods and like you state they sell more to us so we will lift more tax than they will. WE will also charge the Irish Republic for goods passing though our country to the rest of the EU if the EU enforce a hard border.

[@gustavotonnelli]

more like ‘How Europe lost Britain’

[@johnseabrook1703]

My thoughts, exactly

[@AlexiAtlante]

Its just a game mate, Uk just changed his Boss the EU to the US, and remenber that the US controls the EU. Uk need more direct control.English psicology works better in a private system (US) instead of a semipublic system (EU)

@@AlexiAtlante ROFL the stupid is strong with this one.

[@chrisgermo1956]

@ you really should seek medical attention for your uncontrollable whole-body fits......

@@chrisgermo1956 Your fear is noted, run along serf.

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

Britian only wanted the Trade part of the EU not the whole one united country thing.

[@999cosmos]

I'm not sure we want the trade part that enables the EU to control our economy. In 1975 I foolishly thought it was just about scrapping tariffs.

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

@@999cosmos Remove that bit to.

[@pendragooon]

Thats pretty much the definition of the term "Cherry picking". A sinonym of "Egoism"..

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

@@pendragooon Yeah but working together for trade is a bit different from being forced to form into a United states wanna be.

[@0penminds]

@Gwyddion Flint Workers Unions are good for nothing but legal aid, they only reduce production with constant bickering and stupid ideas.

[@timmo491]

Europe lost Britain i think.

[@timmo491]

@Imper 5 sure we'll see, but there will be no fishing for the French, Dutch and Spanish in our waters.

[@timmo491]

@Imper 5 you sound as desperate as the EU negotiators lol

[@timmo491]

@Imper 5 and start speaking your own language too.

[@timmo491]

@Imper 5 ha ha keep positive

[@timmo491]

@Fred Jansen fish is imported because the fishing fleet has declined due to overfishing sticks in our waters by the French Irish, Dutch, and Spanish. Very easy to sort out thanks for coming.

[@willdon.1279]

It was obvious to me, and all my informed friends, that it would be crazy. We didn't realize how bad it could be, and will continue to get worse. And that's without even the completely insoluble North Ireland border... 😞

[@williampatrickfagan7590]

The Border in N Ireland is becoming easier to solve by the day. The Unionists now realise they fcuked up the Kyber. The day of REUNIFICATION is coming faster than most realise. Even they realised which side their bread was buttered on.

[@goharikjones7387]

One think I can say is that people have seen the true colours of our politician's and they will not vote for either of them.

[@dimsung8724]

I think they are all yellow gutless wonders who want power with no responsibilty.

[@jasonpaul6488]

@@dimsung8724 agree totally

[@bobbybobby3070]

Where is the Brexit hero? Firage ? Why is he not leading this Brexit? Coward

[@Rayblondie]

I think you are right. To add the LGBT seems to have taken over the Tories. They are not a true party. They are not a party that honours democracy neither do they allow people to have their own consciences but have instead set up a pack mentality of political correctness.

[@allardfreichmann3733]

Foreigners are human with human rights.

[@gedog77]

Watching this back it's so fascinating. We had everything possible and some pig-headed idiots have pushed us into a nightmare based on a fantasy. Now we have "the greatest act of economic self harm" on the books, £100bn a year.

[@RazorMouth]

I suspect long term it will be worse than 100bn.

[@gedog77]

@@RazorMouth that’s the ifs annual projection, so yes I suspect not only will that accumulate annually but the annual rate of lose will increase as we pay more interest on our additional risk.

[@williampatrickfagan7590]

Replying in Aug 23. Last year Ireland was borrowing money at NEGITEVE interest rates on the 10 year bond markets UK was paying about 2%. Today it borrows 1.7% cheaper that the British Government. What says that about Brexshit? Ireland always paid more to borrow money than the UK. Not anymore.

[@denishoulan1491]

The more they threatened, the less I listened.

[@zapfanzapfan]

And 2,5 years later it's still dragging on..

[@lyonzeelyonzee7554]

NIO WE ARE OUT ...

[@TheGabone99]

And when you think that in the first days after that unfortunate referendum rumors where spreading like wildfire about Frexit or Italexit... If there is a good thing about Brexit that will be a warning "don't make the same mistake" :)

[@Quadromodo]

3 years

[@debateit5174]

Gabriel Stan mistake? Brexit isn't a mistake you clown.

[@Rayblondie]

Roll on the next election. The time to get our own back on the Tory party and deliver a proper Brexit.

[@johnnyguitar6697]

"...the shock of being back in control again." I wonder if Daniel Hannan felt much control when the financial markets dropped the pound and got the UK govenment's borrowing costs soar past that of Greece, following the disastrous Truss administration.

[@simonzonenblick395]

I don't believe that is an argument for or against Brexit. If we apply that logic, we would have to conclude that numerous EU states leave the EU too, as there are EU member countries in Eastern Europe with dreadful levels of poverty, and barely functioning health services, whose economies are far worse than the UK's under Truss. There are also more prosperous members currently struggling, with Germany in recession, and the Eurozone its self in its second recessive year. All these countries also experienced recessions in the past, as did the UK while still an EU member. The Truss/Kwarteng debacle was bad, but in no way compared to the gruelling recessions endured in the 70's, or parts of the Thatcher and Major years, when unemployment hit several millions, a situation mirrored in other EU/EEC member states. Unemployment in France exceeded 10% between 1994-97, while in Germany, more than 4 million were out of work even in the boom years of the late 90's. The Eurozone crash in 2008 brought horrendous economic consequences for many member states, and currently both France and Italy's unemployment rates are nearly double the UK's. If EU membership was so good for the economy, this would simply not have happened. As it is, people from various EU member states still aspire to live in Britain, as our economy offers more promise than those where they come from. Surely the truth is that economies go up and down largely irrespective of EU membership, depending on both the global situation, and the individual decisions of elected leaders in both EU and non-EU countries?

[@davidmetcalfe1076]

Give a royal pardon to Guy Fawkes,all is forgiven.

[@McRocking]

Yes, and eat more fish!

[@EPICFAILKING1]

This video should be titled "How Europe lost Britain"

[@simeonkostov3962]

Exactly what I was going to say.

[@EPICFAILKING1]

@Leslie Guy Who, what?

[@leoissomething6603]

Britain needs the EU more than the EU needs Britain lol

[@simeonkostov3962]

@@leoissomething6603 Would you explain why?

[@leoissomething6603]

@@simeonkostov3962 well 50% of british exports go to the EU, 50% of imports are from the EU, so without the EU there will be food and medicine shortages and prizes will rise. The Eu only exports 8% to the UK and imports 8%. The UK had a special deal so it already had to pay less, in total with the money it got back, it cost the Uk 130 million a week not 300 million like the Brexit campaigners pretended. 130 million might sound like a lot, but without the EU subsidies the UK will have mager budget cuts in the farming industry, they are already subsidising them less. The Uk also needs trade deals, Boris clearly won't get a trade deal with Europe, since he wines about the fact the EU won't approve his deal when he hasn't even presented one yet. Now he is talking about an Australia style deal. Australia doesn't even have a deal with the EU. He wants a trade deal with the US, but the US has officially announced that it will first make a trade deal with the EU and that could take years. Most countries want trade deals with the EU and the British economy alone isn't big enough for other countries to see it as more important as the EU economy. Boris is whining he cant get a Canada stile deal, that is dumb thaugh seeing the proximity of the UK to the EU, it would be dumb to make a Canada style deal for the UK, so yeah that's why the UK needs the EU more.

[@Monkeywrench542]

I do not consider Britain losing europe, but instead how europe lost Britain.

[@poodtang2104]

Agreed.

[@invock]

I find it deliciously ironic that a member of the "Remain" campaign was called "Letwin"

That would be due to your really low IQ.

[@bomma2694]

😂 🤣

[@GH-oi2jf]

Seems to me that Europe lost the UK.

[@Thor.Jorgensen]

Alright. Tell me then. What did I as a European in the European Union lose? As I see it, I still have the same benefits I always had. Britain, on the other hand, will no longer gain the benefits of the EU, such as freedom of movement, cybersecurity on your personal data, equal price on internet roaming across the EU, banned spam mail, product quality guarantees across Europe, guaranteed 14-day return refund rights, 25-month product repair guarantee, EU-funded healthcare and medicine subsidies. So really, with the UK leaving, what do I lose? I can still go there, and unlike in the UK, I won't get "immoral content blocks" or "porn blocks" on our internet.

[@mattg8600]

Thor Jørgensen Because the UK is a rich country and to put it simply, you always want rich countries with powerful economies in a trade conglomerate.

[@Thor.Jorgensen]

@@mattg8600 And? It's not like EU countries can't trade with non-EU countries. Still doesn't seem like Europeans lose much in comparison, does it? For example my country exports a huge amount of pork to the UK. We've already found alternatives. China is having a massive pork crisis, with over 40% of pigs lost. You know, there's a lot of money to be made there, rather than selling bacon for English breakfast. Not to mention our windmill technology and the fact that we own the biggest international shipping company in the world. Not doing so bad. Does it not still seem like the UK citizens are the ones missing out here? Europeans hardly lost anything.

[@gustavotonnelli]

Thor Jørgensen Seems to me that you could not care less about your country’s sovereignty and is totally okay with the fact that the real power in Europe relies on the hands of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels just as long as you can get all the “benefits” that come with being an EU member.

[@gustavotonnelli]

You may take it as a joke but I believe the EU is doomed to fail, Brexit was just the beginning. The rise of conservatism, nationalism and populism will ultimately dismantle the EU conglomerate. I’m not saying it will be a positive thing or anything but it’s hard not to think of this outcome considering the facts, also this will be an evident result of a failed attempt to transform a whole continent into one country.

[@tonecapone8392]

young people these days have been trained to give up freedom.

[@davidpascoe5842]

Education sector teach the pro side of EU

[@Hugo_Lee]

What freedom did we ever give up?

[@Hugo_Lee]

@Ray Well considering how shockingly appalling brexit is going currently, I'd say the oldies weren't capable of any logical foresight and therefore brain dead

[@Hugo_Lee]

@Ray So how would you change the way brexit is moving now if you could?

[@Hugo_Lee]

@Ray So does it not bother you having no agreement in place with our biggest and most important trading partner by far? How about having no free trade deals in place across the world at all if we crash out? Even if we do strike free trade deals with other countries in years to come, they would be hilariously unbeneficial to the economy's growth. Trade predominantly works with geography. Naturally we are going to trade far more with country's in close proximity. By crashing out we severly isolate ourself. There is plenty to gain for being inside the EU. I honesty have no idea where brexiteers are getting these theories suggesting it's a massive cost to be a member. We benefit massively from it, and it will be very clear how much we rely on the bloc once we leave the customs Union. Its going to be catastrophic economic suicide. Not to mention we can say bye to Scotland and Northern Ireland too. I really don't see how there can be a single benefit to leaving the customs Union without a deal. Please enlighten me

[@aljack1979]

Let's all stay in a reformed EU... Oh yes, the EU will never reform, in a way that we feel it should.

[@Azknowledgethirsty]

It's always reforming, since the start the EU has gained more and more power, so in fact it has and will reform

[@aljack1979]

@@Azknowledgethirsty My point is that the EU won't reform in a way that the majority of people in the UK want it to!

[@remcovanek2]

Alan Jackson maybe uk is reforming in a way the EU does not want. Leave ffs

[@SpitfireMLG]

@@remcovanek2 You're right. That's why we left

[@ProcyonAlpha]

How Europe lost britain more like.

[@sixmagpies]

Quite. But even more accurately, "How the EU lost the UK and European people."

[@doctorcrichton]

Well said!

@@sixmagpies You junkies and your Daily Express delusions.

[@sixmagpies]

@ Arguments initiated with ad hominem are always so gloriously self-illustrative, don't you think.

[@ParcelOfRogue]

Procyon - More delusions of grandeur. I recall Britain in crisis before we joined. Just look at wikipedia on EU trade agreements at how many there are on in progress or in negotiation. The UK could never catch up or get as good terms and government outclassed by them at every turn

[@faiththomas2756]

YAY!! WE ARE LEAVING! Let's hope the rest of Europe follows suit so that each country can regain control of their country, their laws, culture and pride.

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

The UK won the war, Europe didnt, so the average continental europeans concept of pride is different to the average UK person's.

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

@James Oh " For no reason! " Brexit didnt happen for no reason. Just the same way as Scotland independence referendum of 2014 didnt happen for no reason. Seems to me that youre very quick to throw the "twelve year old" insult around, but display immature thinking yourself. Its a classic hypocritical insult.

[@darryllesunderland7368]

@Fred Jansen Nope - MEP's are not our politicians, and MEP's do not implement laws - unelected commissioners do. Now, MP's are our politicians - and we WILL control those. Watch and learn. ;-)

[@isatousarr7044]

The phrase "How Britain lost Europe" speaks to the complex and historic process that led to the United Kingdom’s decision to leave the European Union-an event that has reshaped the UK’s political, economic, and social landscape. While the formal break, commonly referred to as "Brexit," happened through the 2016 referendum, the roots of this loss extend far deeper, tracing back to historical, political, and cultural factors that have defined Britain’s relationship with Europe for centuries. One of the fundamental reasons Britain “lost Europe” lies in its ambivalence toward European integration. Unlike many other European nations that saw the EU as a natural progression of post-war cooperation, Britain had always been hesitant to fully embrace the European project. The UK’s decision to stay out of the initial stages of European unity in the 1950s, including the formation of the European Economic Community (EEC), set the stage for a long-standing ambivalence. Britain’s primary focus was on maintaining its global position through its vast empire and Commonwealth relations, leaving the continent somewhat secondary in its foreign policy priorities. This ambivalence towards Europe continued even after Britain joined the EEC in 1973. The British people’s relationship with the European project was never fully reconciled. Many saw the EU as a bureaucratic entity that undermined national sovereignty, particularly when it came to trade regulations, immigration policies, and the growing power of EU institutions. The UK's membership was always seen as a bit of an outsider position, a reluctant participant in a club that other European nations were more committed to. This sense of detachment was evident in the UK’s repeated attempts to renegotiate its terms of membership, which culminated in a referendum in 1975, in which the British people narrowly voted to remain within the EEC. However, the fractures between Britain and Europe deepened over the decades. One significant factor was the rise of Euroscepticism within British politics. Euroscepticism became increasingly prominent in the UK during the 1990s and early 2000s, as the EU expanded its powers, most notably through the Maastricht Treaty and the creation of the single currency, the euro. The rise of the UK Independence Party (UKIP) and the growing influence of right-wing populist politics, which saw the EU as a threat to national identity and sovereignty, added fuel to the fire. The referendum campaign in 2016, which was largely driven by these Eurosceptic forces, capitalized on fears surrounding immigration, trade, and perceived loss of national control. The economic argument against Europe also gained traction in the decades leading up to Brexit. Many in Britain, particularly in the industrial north, felt that EU membership did not serve their economic interests. Instead, it was often framed as a “drain” on national resources, with regulations that were seen as burdensome to British businesses. The argument that Britain could negotiate its own trade deals outside the EU was one of the central promises made by the Leave campaign during the referendum. This economic narrative helped galvanize support for Brexit, particularly in regions that felt left behind by globalization and European integration. The political landscape also played a key role in how Britain “lost” Europe. The Conservatives, traditionally the party of pro-market, pro-globalization politics, became increasingly divided over the issue of Europe. Former Prime Minister David Cameron’s decision to hold the 2016 referendum was in response to growing pressure from his own party and the rise of UKIP, which had significantly weakened the Conservative vote. Cameron, believing that a vote to leave the EU was unlikely, ultimately underestimated the power of populist politics and failed to unite the nation behind the idea of remaining in the EU. In the aftermath of the referendum, the consequences of Britain’s decision to leave the EU became more evident. The UK’s decision was seen as a rejection of a decades-long political and economic integration with Europe, and its departure created a deep sense of division within the country. The 52-48 result, while a win for Leave, highlighted the deep divides between different regions of the UK-those who voted to leave largely represented the older, less-educated, and more economically deprived areas, while younger, more urban, and more educated voters largely supported remaining in the EU. This divide has continued to shape political discourse in the UK, with some regions feeling alienated by the decision to leave, while others celebrated it as an opportunity to take back control of their future. Brexit also exposed the contradictions within the UK’s approach to Europe. The Leave campaign’s promise of a new, prosperous Britain outside of the EU, free to negotiate its own trade deals, has proven more difficult to realize than anticipated. The UK’s economic performance post-Brexit has been hampered by disruptions to trade, labor shortages, and supply chain issues. Moreover, the complex negotiations over the terms of Britain’s exit from the EU have highlighted the challenges of untangling decades of intertwined economic and political relationships. One of the most significant consequences of Brexit is the impact on the UK's role in the global order. For much of the 20th century, Britain had prided itself on its centrality to the European and global economy. Brexit, however, has diminished the UK’s influence in Europe and beyond. While the UK has sought to build new relationships with countries around the world, it has faced challenges in negotiating favorable trade agreements outside of the EU’s framework, and its global influence has diminished as it turns inward. Perhaps the most tragic element of how Britain “lost Europe” is the degree to which the decision has affected its relationships with its European neighbors. The UK’s departure from the EU has created a sense of alienation not only between Britain and the EU but also between the UK and countries that had long been allies and partners in various global initiatives. The ties of cooperation in scientific research, trade, and diplomacy that were built over decades have been strained, and the UK has found itself isolated in a rapidly changing world. In conclusion, Britain’s departure from Europe is a result of a long-standing historical ambivalence and political fragmentation, ultimately culminating in the referendum and the decision to leave the EU. Brexit was driven by a combination of economic fears, political populism, and nationalism, but its consequences have been far-reaching and deeply destabilizing. The irony of how Britain “lost Europe” lies in the fact that, in rejecting the European project, it has become disconnected from the very economic and political bloc that was once seen as a beacon of stability and cooperation. The full impact of this loss is yet to be seen, but it has already fundamentally altered the UK's relationship with Europe and the world, leaving the nation to confront the reality of what it means to no longer be part of the European family.

[@davidhora3296]

It wasn’t immigration it was INDEPENDENCE.Now it’s about DEMOCRACY.

[@newchan329]

Correct David!

[@christophercook723]

How the EU lost UK is more adequate. I voted in a referendum to join a trading block of 8, not the EU farce, by stealth. The last referendum was a return to Democracy but to date that has failed.

[@joecurran2811]

Load of rubbish mate.

[@paologat]

The EU was never a mere trading block but a political project using trade as a means to achieve its political goals. Read the preamble to the Treaty of Rome if you have any doubt. Nobody in the EU is currently advocating for UK to return, and why should we? We don’t need, and many of us don’t want, a reluctant member state stalling our decision process. I hope you are enjoying your Brexit!

[@christophercook723]

@@paologat Wrong. We Jouned the European Ecconomic Union when we confirmed by referendum .The Eurooean Union is entirely different and an attempt to create a United States in Europe by stealth and support the Demograhic disaster in the USA .

[@paologat]

@@christophercook723 back in the 1970s, UK was unfortunately allowed to join, and to benefit from the trade aspect of the European political projects, despite a comparatively large number of people, such as yourself, being only interested in financial gain while opposing the political goal. In hindsight, De Gaulle was right in vetoing UK accession twice for this very reason. If you read the founding document of what eventually became the EU, the political aspect is clear from the very preamble - no stealth at all. UK chose to disregard it out of expediency. EU has to thank Farage and the Brexiteers for freeing it from an overprivileged and recalcitrant member state that could not be expelled against its will. When and if UK changes idea and a large majority decides to accept the EU political project, you are welcome to apply to join again, this time with no opt outs or rebates. Until then, enjoy your Brexit.

[@leec461]

Glad we are leaving as most of Britain is

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

Still here ey?

[@janethomas7584]

What do you regard as most of Britain?

[@Catsmeow90]

@@janethomas7584 Well, obviously the majority of people of Britain who voted to leave. I thought that would be obvious.

[@Catsmeow90]

@James Oh says the one who doesn't know the difference between, you're and your... You're Just sad!

[@DarrenHarrison7160]

@@janethomas7584 I think the majority of 80, the biggest since 1987 and the biggest loss for Labour since 1935 speaks for itself...

[@2804Freedom]

Britain has left a tired, old EU. Good on you!

Quiet down you subhuman dunce.

[@chrisgermo1956]

@ .....OHHHHH, you SOOOO angry.......you are following your meds schedule, aren't you????

[@fazertace6837]

@ only a pikey would say that.

[@Justdisco2]

How the EU lost Britain 🇬🇧 yeah

[@TonyFisherPuzzles]

Exactly.

[@MVUK358]

Precisely "How Britain lost Europe" is such a ridiculous and biased title. Obviously chosen by a pro-EU person for drama purposes. Britain is part of the European continent and European culture and will always have strong ties with the rest of Europe. And, unlike what the media attempt to portray, 99% of Europeans hold no animosity to the British because of Brexit, at all. So silly!

[@eezZzee]

I love the fact that no leave voter ever talks about job losses as companies are already talking about moving their businesses to mainland Europe. These include Deutsche Bank, Barclays Bank. Some games companies need talent from abraod cos we just don't have enough programmers. Goldman Sachs, Lloyd’s of London, Microsoft, Easy jet and some major car producers. Europe wants us to pay for the sattelite system if we want to use it.

[@hanslhansl]

@@snowyowel7961 lol

[@anicetune]

What the EU wants and what the British public want are completely different. Brexit was the way to go. What's messed up is Theresa May's effort to create a Soft Brexit.

[@boereherp8705]

Mainland Europe wants the UK out as well

[@alanharvey9094]

@@boereherp8705 Let's hope you are right and that they get their wish.

[@leejamesmccarthy]

The scum of europe want our money tho... such hypocrites smh

[@182britania]

@@boereherp8705 oh i really do hope so ,if that is so don't agree an extension and kick us out. Thought not ,once we leave the european project will be over.

[@boereherp8705]

@@182britania I just want UK out of the EU. How doesn't matter.

[@haraldoronaldofaldobaldo]

To admit stupid things you‘ve done, is the hardest thing.

[@RobertLeather]

"How Britain lost Europe"? We never had Europe :-D What kind of utter nonsense is this?

[@wingtaylor141]

Daniel Hannan nails it at 3:25. The fact that David Cameron failed to realise this proved just how far out of touch he was with the electorate.

[@stephenburke5967]

The only thing Hannon every nailed was the people of the UK to a cross.

[@lucius1976]

Hannan, yeah the guy who moaned about unelected bureaucrats all his life and who got a life peerage to become an unelected Lord. Ohh, the irony

[@tiziocaio6236]

@@lucius1976 I would keep that one quiet if I were you. He is probably hoping that people hadn't noticed

[@stacyclarkson6202]

I think ,Europe lost Britain!! Not the other way around!!

[@dariussaunorius6831]

i never mist east european

[@LordOfLight]

Cameron: the third worst PM we ever had. Johnson: the second worst PM we ever had. (Yes, I too can hardly believe he was cruelly robbed of the top spot.) Truss: the WORST PM we ever had. What does it tell us about the Tory party that May was the best of the four PMs we've had since 2010?

[@jimivey6462]

Nicely edited documentary. Well done!

[@oliverranderson9292]

5 years on and the pound still hasn't recovered from the damage done by the vote

[@markmatthes1362]

Just listen to James Obrien's radio show this morning - shoots Brexit to pieces. They should do a follow-up on Brexit from this program.

[@john9030]

They should and it would be pretty grim, I would imagine.

[@gulagga371]

Wrong title. Should be How Europe lost Britain. But in essence Political class have themself removed from population.

[@Rayblondie]

You are absolutely correct Rodion. The ultimate test would be the next election. We need to get out before they get their army as then we might not have a choice.

[@Sfcfan120]

@@Rayblondie very true. The EU is failing anyway. More and more countries will leave. Well done UK from America.

[@Rayblondie]

@Frankly Frank You don't have an argument any longer only insults.

[@Rayblondie]

@Frankly Frank But you just give insults instead of reasons? Very persuasive.

[@jasonpaul6488]

David Cameron, what a smug knob he really is

[@wdanowel4331]

calm down, I`m not his fan either but I`m not sure I`m your fan Mr. My opinion only matters. Everyone has one.

[@jasonpaul6488]

@@wdanowel4331 First of all, what ever gave you the opinion that I care you're not a fan of me, very odd indeed. Secondly, I don't remember leaving any comment anywhere which gives a clear indication of my ego being so big that I actually believe my opinion matters more than others. I think that maybe it is you with a problem because clearly you make assumptions.

[@wdanowel4331]

@@jasonpaul6488 I believe what you say, in that case " the second of all" should be "first of all". /Referring to David Cameron what a smug knob he was/

[@jasonpaul6488]

@@wdanowel4331 😂🤣

[@jasonpaul6488]

@@wdanowel4331 thank you for correcting me, haha. Has anyone ever told you that you are funny

[@danielgardner394]

Britain joined the EU because their economy was in rapid decline. By all means let them take it back to decline.

[@ChangesOneTim]

Indeed - back then (1973) what UK joined was called the Common Market/ European Economic Community. EEC begat EC begat EU. An economic recession had been sparked off by the Arab oil crisis, and membership was seen as 'all in this together' by removing trade tariffs between twelve countries and protection against foreign imports. This didn't stop the huge influx of Japanese goods, notably cars, which undercut UK/ European prices during the 1970s...and it didn't stop the beginning of the 'Made in China' era that now dominates global manufacturing.

[@fenixfp40]

This should be titled "How Britain lost Britain"

[@futhark3899]

The result was totally predictable from the people's point of view

[@marshallj1077]

How EU lost Britain don’t you think. For a around Financial Times, maybe you talk about how the EU is falling economically and socially

[@johnmorris3816]

Then leave, ffs, do you expect Europeans to beg for you to stay? Piss off you inbred

[@newchan329]

@@johnmorris3816 It seems you are the inbred you arrogant prick! I sense someone with an inferiority complex! Perhaps it's not a complex .... Inbreds are naturally inferior!

[@johnmorris3816]

newchan ok, thanks for letting me know

[@paologat]

According to Brexiteers, the EU has been collapsing for decades, yet the facts show it hasn’t collapsed yet. Given our incompetence at collapsing, it seems UK has decided to show us how it’s done.

[@daystatesniper01]

The biggest mistake was May calling a election ,her majority was barrel buggered at the stroke of a pen

[@rajasingammuthusamy959]

From a world superpower into a lost nation.

[@neiss2]

Listening to the pompous declarations of those City cretins on how good it felt to “take back control” 6 years in hindsight, is appalling. How does it feel now with this control, hope you are enjoying it.

[@DavidUKesb]

I was always confident LEAVE would win, but after the main tv debate where Sturgeon, Rudd and Eagle were such a car crash, then I knew leave would win.

[@199019852007]

Wish I had put money on it

[@Tonydjjokerit]

well..........when Indyref2 cometh we shall see!

[@Charlotte-hz6hu]

They will never ever ever give up their e.u pension end of

[@marcocasamento]

Every time there's a call for voting, I always have the same feeling. My vote has the same value as that of people who understand the related consequences much better than me - and vice-versa of course. Do people know what's better for them? Maybe Brexit is the right things for Britains, I don't honestly know, but I doubt people have a full understanding of all the consequences, that's why I feel bad in reading so many strong opinions on the subject. Let's hope for the best, in any divorce, are always the children the one who pays

[@misterteaification]

People, whomever they be, never have a *full understanding of all the consequences* of anything. Does that mean we ought to abolish democracy? Of course not. Advisers (politicians) advise, and ministers (the public) decide.

[@marcocasamento]

@@misterteaification Constructive comment, you're right. It's how democracy works, probably not perfect but most people who live in democracies (including me of course) believe that it's the best form of governor. It's just that democracy is more "fragile" than dictatorship. With a (relatively) few money anyone can democratically influences elections making our gloried democracy _à la merce_ of whomever have will and money. Which bring the question if this happened in UK Brexit or in US Trump Elections. Three years later, however, my remaining feelings is that Brexit has been a failure on both sides. Europe lost a valuable member, UK lost a valuable membership. For what ? Cod fishing quotas ? Better China trade agreements ? Looking at what the world is today, every possible Brexit arguments looks a little silly. Sure, contexts were different three years ago.

[@robocop2423]

@@misterteaification great point. I guess the freedom to choose means also there is a freedom to make uninformed decisions or even mistakes on occasion. As long as the decision represents the will of the people, we need to accept it whether we like it or not and whether it makes sense rationally or not. In that sense the biggest fear I have going forward is the problem of intentional misinformation. When certain interests groups spread lies, in the age of social media with bots, and confirmation bias this may lead to votes being cast that so not serve the intentions of the voters. And the second harm is especially in the US but also to some degree in UK and other countries, that the party structure, the voting laws etc may lead to a situation where people are forced to choose the lesser evil and the vote of people in some parts of the country are worth more than the vote of people in other parts

[@stalinisaracist4351]

well you now have your answer

[@phil3038]

My viewpoint is that in general the British Public knew very little about how the EU works. We all probably are far more knowledgeable now. The leave campaign was particularly misleading, full of disinformation and false promises, that NHS bus is a perfect example. I remember the very next day Nigel Farage admitted that the 50 millon a day for the NHS was a lie!

[@nevm7469]

worst intergenerational betrayal in history... you had a bunch of people who won’t even be alive in 10/15/20 years voting on the future for my generation of people in our teens and 20’s who will have to live with their terrible decision for the next 50/60/70 years. I strongly believe there should have been an age cap on who could have voted in that referendum... if you aren’t gonna be around to see the full future effects of whichever decision was made you shouldn’t get a say... sorry, not sorry. I hope to god if labour gets into power over the next few years they find crafty ways to begin to reverse this decision and gradually realign us with Europe. I don’t believe it was a legitimate decision to begin with, not when you have over 70% of the people who will have to live with the full effects of this voting to remain and a large majority of the ones who likely won’t live to see much of the aftermath voting to leave.

[@johnlittle2406]

dont be bitter be better ,,,you lost get over it ..

[@1spikelet]

The Title should be ....…. How Europe lost Britain!

[@hildetoepoel812]

Why?

[@Johnnymagnet92]

@@hildetoepoel812 Because they need us way more than we need them! Why do you think they're making it so hard for us to leave properly?

[@hildetoepoel812]

AndromedaChords, so we invited the UK into the EU? I thought they begged to join EU.

[@paulbaker6378]

@@Johnnymagnet92 They need us more than we need them how come they hold all the ACES there get real for goodness sake.

[@paulbaker6378]

@@hildetoepoel812 In 1963 and in 1967 when the UK was near to economic collapse had a loan off the I M F got it to 1973 when the UK joined the then EEC some people live under past illusions there as we know.

[@l27tester]

Britain leaving the European Union is the best thing that could have ever happened

[@matekochkoch]

to the EU

[@Chachekon]

@@plum_bit Who told you that ? We're angry because nothing happens. Door is open for quite long now, and we'd all apreciate to close it, and the best for everyone How much has it already cost to both sides ? For what pityful result ? Your move

[@Chachekon]

@@plum_bit This might be a matter of perspective. On the other side we see a country that want to leave bad things (basically politics) while keeping the good ones (basically trade)... and well, we disagree indeed. Maybe UK should remember UE never asked anything neither for it to come in, nor for it to leave... plus it has been a PRIVILEGED member through the years. UK is not a child we should give an alimony to, but maybe is it a capricious one. UE is no more punishing than helping... we've done the mourning and now just waiting for you to solve the issues you created yourself (by joining in the first place maybe, but no one forced you to do so, and some even tried to prevent it in the past)

[@allardfreichmann3733]

As long as you keep paying. It's ok.

[@kt-rg2ei]

Has not happened lol.

[@clementine3218]

Millennials have never known anything but the EU. This must have been the shock of their lives.

[@VideoGameAnimationStudy]

Indeed, and now our lives will never be the same, or our kid's.

[@dean1039]

I was born in the 1990's. It wasn't a shock for me. I've wanted Britain out of the EU ever since I became interested in politics in the early/mid 00's. Anyone with common sense and a good knowledge of history and politics, know a nation is more prosperous when it governs its own affairs. And historically, all political unions in Europe have eventually failed. This one will do the same. It appears in my experience, those who do not follow political affairs, voted remain. Those who do follow politics, voted leave. Says a great deal.

[@VideoGameAnimationStudy]

@@dean1039 So I guess we'll be back to warring then?

[@dean1039]

@@VideoGameAnimationStudy No my friend. As I stated, a little common sense is needed here. The times have changed. This is no longer the volatile Europe of the 1930's and 40's with nations led by the likes of Benito Mussolini, Adolf Hitler, and Francisco Franco. There is no logical reason for two European powers to enter into military conflict with one another in the 21st Century. If NATO and the Warsaw Pact avoided war during the 45 years of the cold war, I don't believe Angela Merkel will send her tanks through the Ardenne forrest, or France prepare an invasion fleet for Great Britain at Boulogne any time soon..

[@VideoGameAnimationStudy]

@@dean1039 Fair enough. I'm sure it'll all be fine. People just want politicians to do their job competently, I guess

[@pelvist]

We never lost Europe, we voted to leave the EU. The EU lost Britain. They can't afford to give us a better deal, get us out.

[@nuttall47]

Watching this you would have thought the Tories won the vote, they lost it, but UKIP won it.

[@IssacharGR]

Britain won the vote

[@irenelavin1968]

David Matley are you also awar the second in the german cabinet next to merkel, has said germany gets more finance and power than any one else in the union. he thinks he's going to lose the next election, and merkel wont listen. reminds me of thacher, and may will show her self to be the same ,another who wont turn. what do they say about power ?

[@dutchman7623]

Wait until you get the bill...

[@NeilFLiversidge]

We don't pay bills we don't owe.

[@NeilFLiversidge]

We're not short of toilet paper here in the UK, thanks.

[@sjacka1]

Before Brexit I regularly ordered from English webshops, since Brexit I stopped because of high shipping and custom costs,

[@Luzt.]

Comments below make an interesting reading. Most of them express emotions and positive or negative expectations for the Brits. The fact is none of you can predict the final net value of this decision on a single-person basis, let alone on a society level. I would only say that interventions in workings systems more often than not bring negative consequences. When a system is, say 80% efficient, it is much easier to decrease that numer than increase it..Also, taking decisions through voting by non-competent persons is a bad idea. I hope , your surgeon will not consult patients in the waiting room regarding his next move and follow the majority.

[@keithwatson5393]

No one wanted the European Union only the common Market for trade only?

[@KamenKunchev]

Common market requires common regulations.

[@boykovasilev8834]

Nigel Farage is happy to be EU bureaucrat with 150k euros salary.

[@SeithonJetter]

Its amazing to think how many of the people who pushed for it, won't have to live with it lol .

[@MrRQBQ]

David Cameron's agreement for no further EU integration was meaningless. The EU would have just bided its time and introduced more measures by stealth. The British people knew this and were just not impressed with the deal Cameron made.

[@ernestrogen4639]

Truth is the only deal Cameron got was an agreement to talk about if. Ment nothing was worthless and we knew it. We dont wish the EU any harm but as time goes on and we see the way they want to take our money and give us little in return another vote will have even more of the UKs peoples voting to leave. With no deal we trade with the rest of the world give the EU the same rules it works.

[@devanman7920]

How Europe lost Britain surely??

[@baltasarmelchor935]

French farewell: leave without saying goodbye English farewell: say goodbye and don't leave

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

Haha, golden.

[@McRocking]

EU farewell: Quick, lock all the doors before they escape!

[@Danc1978]

But we ARE leaving, haven't you heard? The English people have spoken yet again in a General Election, giving a big victory to pro-leave candidates.

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

@@Danc1978 i'll believe it when i see it. I heard those promisses before and yet you are still here.

[@fazertace6837]

@@Danc1978 British people mate. There are THREE other countries here. The UK isn't just England and its capital Londonistan.

[@davidsimmons6335]

It was brilliant the look on his face when he lost

[@thornbird6768]

david simmons I could watch it over and over 🤣 he nearly cried 😆😆

[@TheConqueror009]

When? In this video?

[@halexander8894]

david simmons very sad because we are going to struggle outside

[@ozzie2612]

it was the knowledge and fear of what was to come ... and you like that???????????????????????????

[@sinfullv9411]

Congratulations you played yourself. 😆

[@dylanluckham9245]

Taken from Mo... NOW THESE ARE REAL FACTS. So after you read them all tell me your honest opinion should we stay or should we go. Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant. Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant. Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company who have trashed our steel works and emptied the workers pension funds. Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant. British Army's new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales. Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan. Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200. M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan. Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with with EU grants. Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant. Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant. Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant. Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding. Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing. ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK, were closed, eliminating 3,500 jobs Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year, using an EU loan for the purchase. JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU 'regeneration' grants, created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean-up paid for by the UK tax-payer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry. UK airports are owned by a Spanish company. Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company. Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies. The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online. Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it's Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada. 39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK. The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently. Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn't paid attention to what has been systematically asset-stripped from the UK. Name me one major technology company still running in the UK, I used to contract out to many, then the work just dried up as they were sold off to companies from France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc., and now we don't even teach electronic technology for technicians any more, due to EU regulations. I haven't detailed our non-existent fishing industry the EU paid to destroy, nor the farmers being paid NOT to produce food they could sell for more than they get paid to do nothing, don't even go there. I haven't mentioned what it costs us to be asset-stripped like this, nor have I mentioned immigration, nor the risk to our security if control of our armed forces is passed to Brussels or Germany. Find something that's gone the other way, I've looked and I just can't. If you think the EU is a good idea, 1/ You haven't read the party manifesto of The European Peoples' Party. 2/ You haven't had to deal with EU petty bureaucracy tearing your business down. 3/ You don't think it matters. OUT OF EUROPE we need to be out of it . And we need OUT NOW...

[@stacyclarkson6202]

Sweden/Switzerland/and Norway are thriving and they are( Not part of the EU)....Britain has and always will do just fine as a independent Nation~!

[@gabrielleonardo6656]

Well, the japanese will leave regardless of the EU just because of BREXIT.

[@trevorwilson6683]

Stacy Clarkson Sweden is in the EU

[@stacyclarkson6202]

@@trevorwilson6683 type O ,Norway and Switzerland ..

[@bass7678]

Made 3 years ago.....and as with the whole referendum and the 1 deal breaking issue....it never once mentions the Irish border

[@wingtaylor141]

Mark Madigan / John Sinclair: exactly.

[@jordanwhite352]

Forgetting tge Irish and Scottish is English tradition at this point.

[@darrylhewes2376]

To reform the EU requires changing the treaties.. Which require all 28 member states to agree. Those that benefit from the status quo within the EU mean it will never reform.

[@adrianwhyatt1425]

Not so, every Treaty Change sought to advance unity, because they have to be unanimous, has always represented an opportunity to insist, successfully, upon Treaty changes for each and every member state. Denmark's restrictions on foreign property ownership and permanent Euro opt out to name but two examples.

[@lordvoldemort8904]

Brexit means Brexit.

[@_jpg]

Yeah...but what does that mean *exactly* , Voldy?

[@magenta6754]

I was dismayed at how democracy was dismissed as ‘populism’ by the BBC etc. We should not be afraid of democratic process as people are actually for the most part pretty sensible. In fact studies have shown that personality disorders such as narcissism are more rife in the political classes and senior business leaders. Narcissists are attracted to power and people lacking normal compassion will latch onto ideologies. Therefore, it is imperative that normal people are listened to and would be political dictators controlled. This is why I support Brexit and I still like Our European neighbours and wish them well.

[@anthonylucido1670]

Signs that say “I am not British I am european” no no no. You are British take pride in it.

[@markomircea6841]

It's about importing muslim extremists and say f you Europeans. That "I am not British..." is a campaign made by the leave party.

[@Rayblondie]

Why don't they go to Europe instead of denying democracy.

[@giannb5145]

As a Greek who spent six unforgettable years studying in London, and has the greatest memories from the UK, I can tell all British people to calm down, be happy and be proud of themselves. The EU has become a bureaucratic monster killing all human creativity, under the influence of shadowy lobbies and under the domination of the Germans (who have all the money, and thus dictate everything). Unlike small countries like Greece, Cyprus, Malta, Portugal and Ireland, the UK (even without Scotland) can survive on its own. As for the EU, I'm not so sure. Mediterranean Europe has been crushed by never-ending austerity, while the formerly Communist eastern countries will be squeezed between Germans and Russians. I only see places like Denmark or Holland doing well.

[@gavinstacey8862]

I have just been reminded of another 11 month Transition Period, November 9th 1989 to October 3rd 1990. But hey, I am a child of the Second Cold War, and one of my very best friends was in West Berlin on November 9th 1989.

[@johnjeanb]

Giann B:"Mediterranean Europe has been crushed by never-ending austerity," No this is balooney. Greece is not collecting fair taxes including on wealthy people. Tax evasion is a local sport so there is no money to govern Greece. It even falsified its data to join the Euro so blame Greece, not the EU please.

[@giannb5145]

@@johnjeanb Well Greece might not be Norway in its efficiency, but no, tax evasion is not a national sport. I don't deny Greece's problems, but it was the same situation (and exact same punishing bail-outs) in Spain, Portugal, Ireland and Italy. Is tax evasion a national sport in all these countries? I guess not. The thing is: with the UK out and France weakened, the EU has become a cover for German hegemony. EU values are leftist in social issues and ultra-liberal in economic issues, but most people in Europe want the exact opposite.

[@johnjeanb]

This exactly because the EU is NOT ultra-liberal and because it protects its citizens that extremist Tory moguls insisted on the UK leaving the EU. Do you really believe the UK is headed towards democracy and people's protection? Look at Priti (Hugly) Patel.

[@billrowell2919]

Just my opinion ---but i think Cameron leading the remain campaign was wrong --too many people in this country detested him and would vote against anything he stood for

[@stocktonful2]

If the EU wanted the UK to remain they should have tried to help Cameron all they did was offer nothing and created more resentment

[@irenelavin1968]

stocktonful2. camaron. was a complete and utter rat, he catered for his own lot not the people ,him and Osborne spent there time in government taking from us, and giving to them selves ,there mates and all the world. and leaving us with nothing but the bill .hate them and they still under ( under the unelected by the people ) May still doing it. give millions away to many countries, then tell us we have a deficit of trillions. they have a deficit we do not, stinkers should have no right to put us in debt none. or when we are bringing the population down by not having many children ,then they bring in others from other countries, and tell us it's because we are not enough kids. cheek of them. get them all out. and the truth of the matter is ,we are all grossly over populated. some thing we need to do something about soon.or the elite will continue to make more wars. to keep us small and under control. death to the elite.

[@irenelavin1968]

rotweissrot100 you must ask your self what were we paying for. all the money we put in to the eu we could have used in our own country. why put in to something in order to get less back. if this makes sense to you your made. have you ever had to budget your wages? i am still doing it now. i can't give away what i don't have. i can not borrow in order to give away. i can only work with what i have. if i can't afford it i can't have it. that is the only way of doing things. spend what you haven't got you will soon be in trouble, borrow money in order to give away ,you are in worse trouble. consider the interst. i am astonished at the way people haven't learned this .

[@irenelavin1968]

rotweissrot100 you must ask your self what were we paying for. all the money we put in to the eu we could have used in our own country. why put in to something in order to get less back. if this makes sense to you your made. have you ever had to budget your wages? i am still doing it now. i can't give away what i don't have. i can not borrow in order to give away. i can only work with what i have. if i can't afford it i can't have it. that is the only way of doing things. spend what you haven't got you will soon be in trouble, borrow money in order to gives away ,you are in worse trouble. consider the interst. i am astonished at the way people haven't learned this .

[@davidsmith-vc9ul]

Look what they did to Germany after ww1, they made the german ppl destitute,,,,

[@Prometheus4096]

Cameron did so much damage to the UK. And why, for nothing? I cannot understand how Cameron can sleep at night.

[@thornbird6768]

Alcathous Where is the Eton toff anyway ?? Hasn’t even got the nerve to show his face on TV 3 years later !

[@joecurran2811]

He could yet destroy it.

[@lembagnol5882]

that's because UK took EU for granted. And never spent time to deeply consider the dire consequences of brexit.

[@user-hp5fz3qs1u]

We didn't get any good deal (never) that's why we left plus we have left the Mafia

Yeah the illiterate filth have spoken. Amazing only one language and you can't even spell.

[@user-hp5fz3qs1u]

@ obviously an uneducated out of work remoaner . looooooser

@@user-hp5fz3qs1u I'm actually educated far beyond anything your serf peabrain could conceive of. You once again demonstrate the acuity which led you to treason. Trot on.

[@user-hp5fz3qs1u]

@ please please don't have any children we don't want more of your delinquent's roaming the streets .Mr O numbhead

[@jongxina4908]

So we have Nigel farage and Boris to thank for this disaster.

[@robertryan627]

You guys have been brainwashed. UK will be much better off. Losing your sovereignty to unelected bureaucrats who don’t give 2 shits about you is not a disaster.

[@petejohnson1724]

true brittons always wanted freedom to trade with who we like

[@ulfosterberg1979]

And that is what uk dont have now...

[@ChangesOneTim]

@@ulfosterberg1979 The UK does have that...but UK must do new trade deals for itself. Apparently, what 'new' deals UK's incompetent Tory government ministers have so far secured are mere cut n' pastes of EU ones. Notably USA under Biden refused to cut a UK trade deal, but now Trump's just got back in apparently it's more likely to happen.

[@paologat]

It’s unfortunate the citizens of other European countries weren’t given the opportunity to vote on Thatcher’s demands for greater and greater privileges for UK back in the 80s. She should have been shown the door; EU rejection of Cameron’s further demands was too little, too late. I think UK should have been told from the beginning, in no unclear terms, that the European project is a union of equals and that, if UK wanted the benefits of membership, it had to comply in full with the associated responsibilities. De Gaulle vetoed UK accession twice, as he predicted the long term outcome. History proved him right.

[@ghostinvestigationteam]

Britain didn't lose the EU, the EU has lost Britain. BTW we are out of the EU, we didn't leave Europe.

[@ulfosterberg1979]

Are you sure....

[@ghostinvestigationteam]

@@ulfosterberg1979 sure of what? That we are still in Europe, that I am 100% positive about. Other countries will soon realise the EU is a corrupt dictatorship and want to leave this criminal organisation parading as a democratic club, that thinks it is a country.

[@ReekieReels]

"I just didn't think it would be sustainable for him to stay on, It was the right thing to do, he didn't believe in Brexit" Christ, ending up with a PM who'd campaigned for Remain; and didn't believe in Brexit, handling our withdrawal from the EU, what a disaster that would've been... ...Oh wait!

[@sumorabbit2160]

Emm yeah........

[@999cosmos]

What were they thinking? Cameron was honourable in resigning.

[@justsomeguy6329]

Sorry I’m not British and I might be a bit dumb honestly 😂, but who are you talking about? Cameron didn’t handle the withdrawal from the EU, he resigned, Boris Johnson is for Brexit, were you talking about Theresa May?

[@ReekieReels]

Yea I was referring to May

[@gug1970]

er, how Europe lost Britain surely.

[@jameshill5621]

Amazing to think that everything Johnson said was utterly wrong.

[@roghays8900]

I blame David Cameron for all this mess. The pound was doing well. We were all very happy with David's as a PM.

[@lakshayvaid2884]

I think it is like how Europe lost Britain not the other.

[@California265]

So 50% of the country are willing to vote for something without any details . How Clever, terrifying

[@jamesart6568]

britain didnt lost Europe...the EU lost Britain

[@prophetsnake]

The UK is done. Over. you've fucked yourselves. In five years, probably less, there will be no UK. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[@CocoTaveras8975]

James Art Yep!

[@notroll1279]

Brexit reminds me of the ending of the "Waldorf Salad" episode of Fawlty Towers: Basil pisses off all the guests, kisses his wife goodbye, storms out only to find out it's raining and outside is an unpleasant place to be...

[@jimmywrangles]

Europe lost Britain not the other way around.

[@mikemikeson5572]

God I love democracy 🇬🇧😍

[@davecrupel2817]

*How Europe Lost Britain* Should be the correct title.