Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer

UnCommon Core: The Causes and Consequences of the Ukraine Crisis
John J. Mearsheimer, the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor in Political Science and Co-director of the Program on International Security Policy at the University of Chicago, assesses the causes of the present Ukraine crisis, the best way to end it, and its consequences for all of the main actors. A key assumption is that in order to come up with the optimum plan for ending the crisis, it is essential to know what caused the crisis. Regarding the all-important question of causes, the key issue is whether Russia or the West bears primary responsibility.
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[@MrLedymendes]

Amazing explanation........simple and clear.

[@mrnoedahl]

Simple and clear from a bozo.

[@janezjonsa3165]

Idiotic and manipulative, trying to keep cia away from its inevitable bankrupcy. Snowden floxed you up

[@romanroman1850]

@Sergei Saltan looks like a bunch of ruslandversteher is working hard for huilo (

[@troller8680]

@Sergei Saltan you are to blame, Russia to blame, USA to blame. You missed the whole point of this lection.

[@troller8680]

@@romanroman1850 ahh Ukrainians and their refined sense of humour.

[@Zzzk155]

Who's here after what happened between Zelensky and Trump in White House?

[@fromhersanctuary]

🙋‍♀️

[@sassysara223]

Me!!

[@TheBeerswine]

4 years ago

[@Sky10811]

🖐

[@greyhairedphantom4038]

Haha meee!

[@Akihabarajin]

Truly American approach. Talking about "making" other countries into something without considering their interests and opinions.

[@askarkalykov]

Yet somehow they don't understand why would others be unhappy about it?

[@yurimeister]

​@@askarkalykov lol typical russian, blaming others & being the victim. 🤡

[@jhonklan3794]

Given that we will be defending you guys and not the other way aorund, you might wanna shut up.

[@ZAZA-d6c]

@@jhonklan3794Defend from who?

[@joedapro1118]

Just because the US has made foreign policy blunders in the past, does not excuse Russia from plutonium poisoning journalists and locking up political adversaries. In this way you can see a clear distinction between the US in conflicts such as Vietnam and Russia invading Ukraine, the U.S. may have been committing atrocities, but it was not locking up people who were against the war, whilst Russia is. Nor was the US annexing territories, while Russia is . We can say that we do have a moral authority to intervene in Ukraine, while recognizing that the US has made mistakes as well.

[@the_black_douglas9041]

Who is back here in 2025, now all of this has been turned out to be spookily accurate. Sometimes I think John Mearsheimer is the only responsible adult in the world.

[@Mish844]

What turned out to be true?

[@jorgecollazo7083]

He was always on spot

[@EricPacz]

@@Mish844 That Some People Willingly Remain Ignorant AF, While Attempting To Make That Same Decision For Others.

[@Mish844]

@ weird, that is not what Memeheimer's talks are about. Strange that parrots that praise him so much avoid why he's so great, huh?

[@richardc9246]

“The West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path. And the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked. What we are doing is encouraging the Ukrainians to play tough with the Russians. We are encouraging the Ukrainians to think that they WILL ultimately become part of the West because we will ultimately defeat Putin and we will ultimately get our way, that time is on our side. And of course the Ukrainians are playing along with this. The Ukrainians are almost completely unwilling to compromise with the Russians and instead want to pursue a hardline policy. As I’ve said to you before, if they do that the end result will be that their country’s going to wrecked. What we are doing is in fact encouraging that outcome. I think it’ll make much more sense for us to work to create a neutral Ukraine and to bury this crisis as quickly as possible.”

[@stephanjacob17]

Saying the US promotes democracy is laughable.

[@IRS-internal-revenue-service]

I know where you live

[@kaudsiz]

@@IRS-internal-revenue-service🙄

[@Deeplycloseted435]

The US promotes democracy when it benefits US business and the value of the dollar. The US also promotes and supports dictatorships when it benefits US business and the value of the dollar.

[@jaska-jalmarixvi5757]

yeah, RUSSIA promotes democracy 😆

[@tosha9994]

Censorship undermines democratic values Especially fostering division and hate to the degree that it has been achieved

[@АлексейКосарчук]

It is very interesting to watch in 2022, knowing how events played out.

[@marcvercruysse9749]

REMEMBER 2024 (it might become like Russia in october 1917) and I am not joking.

[@АлексейКосарчук]

@@marcvercruysse9749 A new communist revolution?

[@YuriIdrisov]

Are. Are playing out.

[@gracjanstanosky9698]

@@marcvercruysse9749 You mean in mess? The reason, why Poland won 1920 war was, shitty army(in Russia) after revolusion. It' dsn't look like that this time ( i'm polish i live 5km from border with Belarus)

[@АлексейКосарчук]

@@jamescache1768 He really said nothing about Ukraine itself. He only said that Ukraine is not of vital interest to the US.

[@crazyguy0_0]

I am Ukrainian myself and it is truly sad of how my country struggles to clean itself up. Just leave it alone. we need time to build up.

[@russwhite7715]

Tell Biden to back off no one wants war

[@thenaturalpeoplesbureau]

Its horrible how this situation puts Ukraine, Europe and Russia at risk. Destabilization wars that close to russia wont work - it will turn hot. No one wants this, i think the US president is senile.. From Switzerland with love

[@Ricardowieringa]

​@@russwhite7715 russia ain't gonna stop razing everything to the ground

[@НевсемСвой]

You had 30 years to build but you learnt just to destroy

[@luckyalbanotti1741]

It's a bit too late for that now. West has brought you this.

[@chrisredding6673]

As many below have said: You have to keep reminding yourself that this lecture happened over six years ago.

[@thisguy9993]

i know we got a bunch of over emotional crybabies denying the facts.the professor has been right everything turned out true

[@cudiedgar]

yeah, speaking truth nowadays is a big no no

[@johnsmith1474]

Why? Why would a report at the time be unusual?

[@Dagfari]

Despite what Dr Mearsheimer predicted, I think Trump made a difference on Ukraine while he was in office - and now Biden is picking up where Obama left off

[@rooh5825]

I KNOW, it's amazing that history is repeating itself, and one entire side of the political aisle is acting totally naive on this point.

[@anilpillai6786]

I find myself coming coming back to this presentation all the time. From first principles... nice and clear.

[@millanferende6723]

It is also what you would call "common sense." Looking at the situation in a broad scope, acknowledging cause-and-effect and coming up with the best solution that suits all.

[@millanferende6723]

This is compared to how it was done, which was to stoke the conflict, then have a * surprise Pikachu face * and keep throwing resources at the problem, without ever caring about what the population - that they are representing - has to say about it.

[@johnq8792]

It's never about democracy, it's all about resources.

[@HrKCA]

Somehow the democratically elected governments are really keen on letting Americans extract their natural resources.

[@victorsamsung2921]

Resources and control of the $$$ money.

[@RedXlV]

You mean about Russia's desire to steal Ukraine's resources?

[@coronaphone710]

on a surface level

[@kadova]

Exactly. Russia invaded the richest parts of Ukraine. Putin is just making-up excuses

[@jerryakehurst]

Puts in mind Churchill's comment - "You can always trust the Americans to do the right thing ....... after they've tried everything else"

[@scientifus]

Also puts in mind the Atlantic Charter 1941 and how it made the Western world prosper. I also wonder where the 'Mearsheimers' of those days disappeared. The Americans love Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy and Reagan, just to name a few. Still respected and well remembered in the free West for standing up against tyrannies. But it's insane how so many Americans are now supporting their complete opposite. People here know who I'm talking about.

[@celeridad6972]

​@@scientifus would you look at that, the Americans did the right thing after trying everything else and getting a bloody nose once again 😂

[@Rccrasher716]

Love this speech and thank god he has the freedom to speak openly and sometimes even negatively about his own country. He definitely changed my mind about this conflict.

[@mariaivanova4400]

@Matthew Hiatt : Liberal puppets run by the globalists

[@ElectronFieldPulse]

Huh, in Russia you don't have that freedom, yet this guy defends that country lol

[@genatools919]

@@ElectronFieldPulse He's not defending them you moron. It's giving valid reasons for their decision either it be morally correct or not is irrelevant.

[@runnermcturtle5893]

@@ElectronFieldPulse I wonder how on Earth a Professor can develop such a strong propensity for bullsh.t? I am just starting listening, he did not yet give any prove and already accused Western countries of being trouble makers. Amazing nonsense guy!

[@75marklee]

@@ElectronFieldPulse your comment is irrelevant to Mearsheimer’s point that the situation in Ukraine is the fault of the West

[@negombo36degrees]

Watching it 2024..from Sweden..:Still amazing that we did not prevent what happen today with Ukraine and Russia. after all this knowledge...

[@schmetterling4477]

There was nothing to prevent. That Putin is crazy has been proven over and over, again.

[@robertoandreamadonna6025]

@@schmetterling4477 ahahah, you never listen a single Putin speech. you are just a child.

[@robertoandreamadonna6025]

This was the american plan from the beginning. Destroy europe economy, control europe through NATO, and recide the links between Russia and Germany.

[@schmetterling4477]

@@robertoandreamadonna6025 Why do I have to listen to a psychopath, kid? He will always tell you that you are at fault for being murdered by him. ;-)

[@klausprediger818]

​@@schmetterling4477die you Talk about Putin or about schmetterling? You do a great job here - talking nonsense.

[@georgep6397]

I wasn't watching but listened with my headphones while working around the house. When I saw it was the article was published in 2015 I couldn't believe it. I had the feeling it was posted if not yesterday, then not more a month ago. This man is a genius! Period.

[@lostinspace699]

And at the same time its simple Math ,,, But all the big talk ,,Spy ,Collusion FBI ,CIA ,,, World Leaders ......Get out of the City's Live you life the best you can ,,, I'm Dun ,,, Australia

[@ddehggial9932]

well, the problem is still the same. I think what he failed to mention, which is perhaps what the West never considers (because it's of no importance to it), is the hatred Eastern Europeans have for Russia historically. I mean, he touched on it with the mention of WWII but it is deeper than that. So with that hate, it's no wonder people can't behave rationally and accept that, basically, in the grand scheme of things, their countries don't matter. I myself can only admit that because I no longer live there.

[@blip1]

23:10 Given the current situation, I'd say this guy is a moron.

[@proUKRAINE6201]

It would be a chance for Ukraine if the Russians came to invade this country to free them from American influence and misery. FYI before the Maidan coup it took 9 grivna for 1 euro today it's 30 grivna for 1 euro. the basic pension went from 150 euros to 44 euros. since 2014 the GDP has collapsed by 20%. prices in stores have doubled. Because obviously the Americans and Europeans have ousted many cheap products from the former Soviet countries (EEU). And now they sell American or European products in Ukraine at prices that penalize the purchasing power of Ukrainians. Everyone is stuffing themselves, the big brands, the GAF AS, the arms dealers, etc., but the Ukrainians are morfling. For 30 years Ukrainians have been voting for pro-Russian candidates. the pro-Europeans only took power through coups. (2004 Orange Revolution and 2014 Maidan) FYI after the Orange Revolution the Ukrainians voted again for a pro-Russian president. Just before the Maidan coup, the pro-European candidates had a total of less than 13% in the presidential elections. (Yatséniouk 6.96% Lushchenko 5.45%) today they no longer have any choice apart from Boiko who has the charisma of Phillipe Poutou. so in order not to vote for a pro American they voted for the comic actor (which comes to the same thing) if there was a real serious pro Russian candidate today he would win the elections Conclusion the Ukrainian people are mostly pro Russian let them live in peace colonialism is over and not only in Africa

[@raytracer5726]

Crazy thing, but Russians have been saying the same all these years as well, warning it will go out of hand eventually and the consequences could put the whole global security at huge risk. Yet not a single of so called independent mainstream media would give Russians a platform to have a discussion. They all just resorted to blaming Russia for everything, ignoring everything it had to say. And the West is only pouring more and more fuel into the fire, taunting Russia, saying it can only bluff. It's as if the West wants a full scale nuclear war.

[@thisguy9993]

cry all you want this guy had this lecture 6 years ago and he got everything right about whats going on.literally spent decades studying these types of things.

[@michaelgarcia3524]

The end is inaccurate. Today's date 1-25-22 far from accurate. The beginning was good though.

[@arturarturs5529]

Totally agree 👍

[@georgesnarbonne2892]

I like the perspective. I think are used to thinking that Russia is the enemy but have been a powerful ally.

[@ajc5479]

Why do idiots keep saying he got everything right? The same sh1t with Russia has been happening for longer than 6 years.

[@ajc5479]

@Sean Browning name one prediction he made? just one. Not asking much, is it? The fact is today we are in the same situation as 6.5 years ago, which is the same from 2014. Putin's threats to Ukraine are much older than that. There is one thing Mearsheimer didn't explain. Why it is the West's fault for Putin being such a coward of the EU and NATO.

[@y.p.6456]

This ages so well. Professor Mearsheimer is a treasure of our time.

[@klausprediger818]

@yUrNe... : "Ich denke n i c h t s , also bin ich." (Anti Descartes)

[@Mish844]

which part did age well? That Putin is too smart to attack? Or the fact that there were no talks about NATO for Ukraine after 2010, until after invasion already started? Or maybe the fact that John lied about alleged coup in Ukraine?

[@mushokueien8148]

What are you talking about, it aged like a fine milk lmfao

[@BostonSalts]

I refer to the prediction: if Ukraine tries to join NATO- it will be the same for Russia, as it was for the USA when the USSR placed nukes in Cuba during Cuban Missile Crisis. And under these circumstances Putin will have no choice but to "wreck Ukraine".

[@СергейШелестов-ч8я]

Неуместное сравнение. Разместить ядерное оружие на Кубе всё равно что разместить его в Турции. Украина в НАТО для России всё равно что разместить ядерное оружие и армию России в Канаде

[@BostonSalts]

@@СергейШелестов-ч8я You are missing the point: once Ukraine joins NATO, it will not be possible for Russia to prevent US from placing nukes near Shostka. At any rate, we live in the World, where the might is right. US got away with lies about WMDs in Iraq and in Lybia, and got a hold of their oil. And Putin is getting away with his lies about neo-nazis in Ukraine. Fair and square.

[@monx]

@@СергейШелестов-ч8я pretty much

[@phoenixaz8431]

@@BostonSalts There is no neo Nazism in Ukraine? Is it Europe's most or least corrupt country, or somewhere in the middle?

[@mrp4835]

Well i dont think so. The Baltic states and finland are in nato already. They are also neighbours to russia. I dont see the difference between finland and ukraine to be honest

[@trucid2]

Six years later and what this man has been saying has come to pass, such as the US/Nato influence in Ukraine and the China threat. The truth of what he says is obvious even to a layman like myself.

[@elnorton7113]

Yes. That helps people without Medicare

[@VTuber_Clipp3r]

china threat?? lol you're the ones with drones hidden in every country even remote islands of australia, you're the ones who start illegal star wars killing MILLIONS. Vietnam war woman raped and half asian babies are left orphaned and treated as outcasts. Scenes of an american platoon shooting a taxi that a iraqi civilian family got into the WHOLE family dead. Afghan civilians killed by the US, the interpreters helping the US screaming "we helped you and leave us here to die". YOU'RE the threat

[@VTuber_Clipp3r]

Why because china makes man made islands?? thats because you stole THEIR fishing island, its historically proven that china circumvented the world FIRST, even western documentaries prove this (china laid claim to it and america says nope??) infact columbus stole chinas map looking for india, got lost and went to the americas. FYI YOU stole and colonised the land, so vicious you attacked mother england for it, when the indians gave up and try to live with the whites you put cyanide in the corn maze. You knew this thats why obama said "we wont' take sides" but the moment you signed japan on as allies you said you'd blow china out of the water. Funny because when south korea laid claims ti the fishing island it was ok (geez i wonder if its because they're allies with you is why you don't object) so china made their OWN islands, i think you did this to yourselves. I call it the AMERICAN THREAT!! china aims for covid zero you care sh~t about your own people!

[@paulfan7377]

@@skysea7785 right, everyone with an opinion than whyte trash is now a wumao, what a freedom of speech loving guy, lol

[@Stevewilldoit96]

@@VTuber_Clipp3rIt's not an insult, China is very successful making them objectively a threat to U.S hegemony and dominance, and are looking like they could surpass the U.S to become the #1 global superpower. Purely from a geopolitical standpoint it's a threat.

[@petef.4361]

I would never have watched this video when it first came out, but now that events are getting serious, I am so thankful I found this because now it makes sense why things are happening the way they are, and where we are headed, and it scares me because I feel there's nothing I personally can do about it.

[@ColonelMuppet]

It’s great that so many have come here as the Ukrainian crisis finally reaches fever pitch. It all came apart under fck wit Clinton in 96. Watch Vladimir Pozner’s piece too. Your shit MSM and shit policymakers - emperors with no fucking clothes but armed with Ivy League degrees have shat all over us with their pitiful liberal hubris. Let’s hope we can hang the Ukraine around Biden’s neck - after all it was Democrats that initially brought us here.

[@seneca991]

@@ColonelMuppet ok cookie Monster, in that case let's hang the Whole Middle East including Iran and China as well around the Republican's necks because they are the ones who foked them all for us. And don't ask me how or why since you know so much history and all.

[@ColonelMuppet]

@@seneca991 I agree! Sorry if I seemed too partisan. Bush wants hanging for opening WTO to China. But 9-11 could be used as extenuating circumstances. The real fck up was decades earlier actually as Kissinger and Nixon created the oil crisis by being outplayed by the Shah. The broader point is that the last 50 years of foreign policy by the US has been total crap. * I only slammed Dems because we were talking specifically on Ukraine. Clinton’s preposterous liberal hubris is key. Truly one of the most corrupt presidents in US history; but you Americans never seem to be able to get past the smiley liberal presentation. Obama continued this trend of uselessness

[@79klkw]

I feel very much the same way

[@seneca991]

@@ColonelMuppet i agree with your assessment about China. Giving everything to China on a silver platter without any preconditions by Kissinger and Nixon was a recipe for disaster. Thinking they were going to fold over and become a liberal democracy allied of the west just because they enjoy making money and having nice things...that is conservative hubris. On regards to Clinton no one can deny he made the economy crank and we had a very good 8 years of prosperity although during that time inequality soared. Low taxes meant less money for education, infrastructure, welfare, non existent worker retraining after most manufacturing moved to China thus white blue collar polarization of today in the 🇺🇸 . Nevertheless, don't forget the republican obstruction by newt Gingrich and his Republicans who pushed the Clinton administration to the right. Hillary was trying to get universal Healthcare done but wasn't allowed by Republicans. On regards to foreign policy after the end of the cold war Americans wanted their president to focus internally and he did. Big mistake but voters get the consequences of their desires.

[@krutoi_petrovich]

Bruh. When these people talk about “strategic interests,” they do not even discuss that the territories and resources in question belong to other states. It’s as if the whole world, except America, is an empty place where you can do whatever you want. And then they trying teach us democracy. Absurdity.

[@KLoiswinning]

We call that the Industrial Military Complex and they do not represent Americans they represent the oligarchy where they constantly throw young people into deadly conflict.

[@noticing33]

Fr, then they cry when people hate them and think its cuse of their "freedom"

[@Dr.Rwiena]

In the world of geopolitics it's called anarchy.

[@warfarenotwarfair5655]

You sound ignorant and ridiculous. My family and I have been protecting Asia and Europe for decades. Let me know when you are ready to do something for someone other than yourself. The dictators of the world can't be talked into stepping down, it's done with force.

[@warfarenotwarfair5655]

​@@noticing33Who is "them"? Do you even know where any of these countries are on a map?

[@martinreese7373]

When he said that if the US isn’t careful, they pull push China and Russia closer together… How right was he!

[@BrunoRodrigues-nv1dc]

I'm from Brazil and it's a privilege to be able to attend this incredible lecture by Professor Mearsheimer that contradicts everything that the hegemonic media in my country propagates!

[@stefan-xaverscherrer7648]

Like what is propagated in the Brazilian median?

[@joanndeck4315]

@@stefan-xaverscherrer7648probably the SAME that’s in the WEST

[@anaberl4141]

aca en argentina igual pero maximizado, todos los medios privados y tambien los medios estatales, todo en el bolsillo de la OTAN, de la CIA, del mossad, del MI6.

[@ramongonzalez3280]

I’m a Mexican and live in the US, mass media in both countries follow the script Dr. Mearsheimer warned us about since 2015 and even before, we in the West are the good guys, Putin and China are evil.

[@bmk8018]

Mearsheimer explains perfectly in foresight what many know-it-all pundits in 2025 still can't explain in hindsight!

[@phoenixaz8431]

Weak-minded liberals (redundant, I know) will simply call him a liar, propagandist, Putin lover/puppet etc. These people are called NPCs for a valid reason.

[@deeliciousplum]

Recently stumbled upon this talk. Prof John J. Mearsheimer's thoughts on Ukraine, on the West, and on the East are as relevant now as they were when this talk was given. A valuable and enlightening talk. Thank you for sharing this.

[@leeham6230]

What about when he said "Russia isn't going to invade Ukraine"? I fail to see how this problem is the USA's fault. Russia's government is expansionist, and wants to reclaim all of their key lost territory. Ukraine was an important economic powerhouse for USSR. The oil in the Black Sea, as well as the untouched natural gas reserves on the mainland, are a threat to Russia as the oil/natural gas power in Europe. The USA got involved with Ukraine because they knew Russia wanted it, not the other way around.

[@elfkey1409]

I think that caught all of us by surprise at the time. Given hindsight, it can be argued that was the position they had move into though @@leeham6230

[@EmilKto-cb2df]

Głupoty piszesz człowieku i propagandę powtarzasz, nie znasz ukrainców i przyczyny tej wojny która trwa od 2014r, założę się że przed tym filmem nie wskazał ukrainy na mapie. On mówi czystą prawdę chociaż bez rysuju historycznego tuż po drudiej wojnie światowej, jak wywiady wojskowe aliantow wywoziły członków OUN-UPA do UK USA i Kanady ale to jest dłuższa historia, poszukaj i poczytaj dokumenty i źródła historyczne z innych cześć świata, USA zdradziło wszystkich swoich partnerów ostatnio Kurdów zostawiło na pewną śmierć...

[@TheHerrUlf]

Actually it is BS. Putin's told us why he invaded Ukraine. We don't need Smearsheimers BS

[@TheHerrUlf]

Of course. And Putin told us this in an essay before the invasion. This is US-DS@@leeham6230

[@michaelwilliams6132]

8 years later and still informative

[@vosaha]

Rather not. Didn't age too well.

[@michaelwilliams6132]

just a different perspective, he did predict a bigger war would be fought. @@vosaha

[@juju52291]

It's informative if you only get your news from RT. It's funny how he frames the Georgian war. They saw the writing on the wall. They didn't want a brutal, genocidal dictator (Chechnya) or an impotent thug (Belarus) running their country to the Kremlin's benefit. And you wonder why Crimea is mostly Russian? Look up Holodomor. They changed the official language to Ukrainian but anyone is still allowed to freely express themselves and do business in Russian. They expelled Russian TV/radio from their country because it's all propoganda. Ukraine has very valid reasons for doing what it did. Just because Putin wants it doesn't mean he should get it. How many times in this lecture does this clown say "Putin didn't start this problem, he WARNED the West what would happen if NATO expanded." So just because Putin wants it he should have it? What the hell is the point of NATO if it's not willing to incorporate and protect capitalist democracies that want to be a part of it? Parliament voted the PM out and people protested, democracy worked, but not for Putin. Ukraine should be a free country, they should be able to do what they want.

[@Puchacz81]

@@vosaha Lol are you serious? He predicted the conflict and everything he said turned out to be true. God damn how stupid you are?

[@kensington1199]

@@vosahawhat hasn't aged well

[@NeilCheesman]

And here we are in 2022...

[@Damn6real]

And here we are in 2024...

[@Dudush90]

@@Damn6real and we will be in 2026, but Ukraine gonna be ruined country with low man population and most of them gonna be cripples without legs/arms...I still blame west for this conflict, they knew where its gonna lead

[@BabySpidersHS]

@@Damn6real i heard ukraine is almost about to win.... for the last 2+ years

[@BabySpidersHS]

@@Damn6real i heard ukraine is almost about to win.... for the last 2+ years

[@Mish844]

@@BabySpidersHS 3rd year of a 3 day russian operation

[@christopherkuffel1131]

As an American living in Asia for the majority of my life, I often hear US congressmen speak on Asia. I cannot express my compete sense of bewilderment and horror when one of them gets on a soapbox and demonstrates profound ignorance of even the basics. I often puzzle whether it is true deep ignorance or they are speaking to a domestic audience so they need to appear ignorant. Perhaps they are playing game I do not understand, but starting from statements that are easily challenged creates another set of questions. The lack of any real understanding is often so remarkable that it perfectly aims them at some sort of geopolitical car crash without offering a map to a perceivable goal.

[@siamcharm7904]

nicely expressed. it's more ignorance i;m afraid.

[@elon6784]

Where do you live? China?

[@nuanced8225]

You are partially correct. Then again, not all Asian countries are the same, and neither should they be approached similarly. China has broken all rules of international convention. Through debt diplomacy or sheer force, they are grabbing land and establishing bases from Sri Lanka to Papua New Guinea. When you are dealing with a country like that, maybe the words don't matter.

[@savvasbambos2669]

@@nuanced8225 Do you ask yourself some times during yoyr leisure time, how many Basis, with capital B, that US has in the world? It's all about karma, for every reaction, sooner or later, their will be opposite reaction. Even john lennon said" let's give peace a change" they killed him sadly😢😢😢

[@Killerbee_McTitties]

@@savvasbambos2669 John Lennon was a hypocrite, propably not all bad, but certainly not good.

[@mangol884]

John Mearsheimer has clearly nailed it, his clarity and reason make him such a distinguished and bright academic. Pretty much everything that he said 6 years ago has now crystallised.

[@c_g_27]

43:47 “…Putin who certainly has authoritarian or thuggish tendencies, there’s no question about that. I actually think that what’s going on here, is that the West is leading Ukraine along the primrose path (Shakespeare) and that Ukraine is going to get wrecked.”

[@patrickrealestate-8193]

43:38 This man predicted what is happening today, 7 years ago. He said Ukraine is going to get wrecked if they keep playing tough.

[@kqjwhhsp1783]

You mean Russia is going to get wrecked

[@mp40submachinegun81]

He also said putin is too smart to invade....

[@tarasnykolyshyn3424]

​@@mp40submachinegun81as a western ukrainian I'm pretty sure he was trying to handle the situation peacefully. But Ukraine was strongly aligned with USA. All these years the point was to recover the Crimea and Donbass with strength. So the invasion was predetermined. The main question now is how to stop the war. As we see Russia is incorporating occupied territories so the buffer state is no longer available. Or it will be available with whatever left from our territories. The second option is full annexation but I don't think it is likely because it will be a huge threat to Europe. It's quite interesting to be in the epicenter of this conflict. I just hope people stop dying as soon as possible

[@duxiuchen4132]

@@tarasnykolyshyn3424 In recent public discussions on how to end wars, John Mearsheimer has referenced the concept of a "frozen conflict," akin to the situation on the Korean Peninsula. He argues that Russia lacks both the will and the capability to fully occupy Ukraine. However, it may also remain unsatisfied with its current territorial gains. Given Russia’s dominant position on the battlefield, it might seek to seize all territories east of the Dnieper River. Only at that point, Mearsheimer suggests, would Russia genuinely be willing to engage in negotiations for a lasting peace. The current situation is highly unfavorable for Ukraine, as Europe and the United States cannot provide credible security guarantees without risking direct confrontation with Russian forces. The hope now rests on the assumption that Russia has no further territorial ambitions beyond its current objectives.

[@elleren837]

Thank you, excellent presentation! I am watching this video on February 5, 2022, 8 years after the fact. The history and present conditions, all make sense of what is happening in Ukraine, Russia, Europe and the United States. In addition, John made a statement that he gave China 10 to 15 years before we would say problems he’s right on target

[@tangtangmiao]

Just watching this now too. It is so sad that the US leaders are still doing what will lead to suffering in Ukraine for their own benefit. Very good presentation. Logical, sensible and very helpful.

[@world-traveler880]

@@tangtangmiao Ukraine is suffering because they were invaded by Russia

[@ManteIIo]

@@world-traveler880 Obviously you're unable to see further than your arse.

[@MHeymann]

Im watching it and surprised on how much he got wrong.

[@worldoftancraft]

​@@world-traveler880and they were invaded because instead of accepting the famous soft force©®™, but the one that originated from Russia rather than Unicorn States of America, they decided to refuse and start expelling of Russia's business from there

[@aosa1238]

Listening in 2024. This guy's knowledge is extraordinary 👌 🤯

[@EnhancedNightmare]

He was wrong in several points. Not worth to watch.

[@Mish844]

this aged horribly

[@salvatuno1762]

@@EnhancedNightmare Could you point out what these points are? It seems to me to be a tremendously accurate analysis, in the light of events.

[@salvatuno1762]

@@Mish844 It has aged remarkably well

[@Mish844]

@@salvatuno1762 the part about appeasing Russia or part about Putin being too smart to attack? To know Putin got exactly what he demanded and hear it aged well is jarring, to put it mildly

[@122333Jordan]

This is the only explanation of whats going in that ive ever heard which makes sense. Thanks for this from 2025.

[@Pikkabuu]

How does this Kreml propaganda make any sense?

[@122333Jordan]

@Pikkabuu what do you mean? What do you think is not true here?

[@Pikkabuu]

@@122333Jordan Easier to say what is truthful than what is false as pretty much everything said in this lecture are lies. But to name few: Mearsheimer argues that Ukraine should have taken Russians fatter deal over EU's one, but he forgets that the Ukrainians preferred the EU one due to EU demanding that Ukraine solve its corruption issue! A fatter deal wouldn't be better when all the oligarchs and politicians steal the fat! Second great example is him arguing that Russia didn't invade Crimea because they already had the Sevastopol Naval Base in Crimea. Having that base doesn't allow the Russians to just walk over the rest of the peninsula! So as I said. This is nothing but Kreml propaganda.

[@122333Jordan]

@@Pikkabuu I interpreted the crimea section of the video differently. What I understood was that he was saying it wasn't an external invasion where they suddenly marched in, but instead it was a hostile takeover using Russian assets that were already there first and then followed by externals coming in after. As far as the fat deal thing you're talking about I missed that section. Can you time stamp it? However a lot of what he says here can also be understood from the film Ukraine On Fire. I came here to understand Russia's motivations for entering Ukraine, not to agree with them but to understand it. My opinion is that war is terrible and I hate it.

[@Pikkabuu]

@@122333Jordan So you are arguing that Mearsheimer is utilising semantics to avoid making Russia look like the culprit? That only makes his shtick even worse! And of course this Kreml propaganda fits well with other Kreml propaganda! So why should we care what Ukraine on Fire says?! And Mearsheimer starts talking about the Maidan Protest in 17:34, so watch from there on.

[@umishra67]

He basically predicted all the things which are happening today in 2022, excellent person

[@anirbanroy9431]

@@AlexanderPlain bro then how will the media and politican eat

[@mariaivanova4400]

A Russian politician, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, predicted this in 2000's, so not much new for me here.

[@wizard-of-other-oz]

@@mariaivanova4400 and what Zhirinovsky predicted before Americans invaded Iraq? Complete and total nonsense.

[@RedXlV]

You mean like when Mearsheimer said there was no way Putin would be stupid enough to invade Ukraine?

[@David-wc5zl]

Nope. He claimed Putin wouldn't invade. He has no idea Putin just wants the Russian Empire back, an 800 year old negative structure that folks like Meirsheimer continue to enable. . Dude is trapped

[@williamnhamo8410]

'Conventional wisdom' is the easiest way to obtain information and it surely misleads. One really needs to understand issues on a fundamental level before simply believing 'conventional wisdom' Great lecture Prof John J. Mearsheimer!

[@jean-pierredevent970]

I am now a fan. It's refreshing that he is American and yet not like Chomsky, or even Sanders, a typical lefty. He seems more the reasonable center, which today probably has not much influence and appears left in the US.

[@AMichaelUhlmann]

Not only where his predictions about Ukraine right on the spot (six years ago), but in some extra remarks, he mentioned that it would be really bad if Russia and China would cooperate again - and yes these two nations found each other again, Russia helping China advancing it's Belt & Road policy.

[@aaronaarons3859]

I hope that Russia, China and other countries can unite against Western imperialism.

[@beatsbydanzy1459]

@@aaronaarons3859 agreed

[@OscarOSullivan]

Michael well you clearly have overstated China’s fiscal responsibility

[@scientifus]

What about having no imperialism at all?

[@AlexK1388]

You forgot North Korea and Iran

[@FitandFit_Diaries]

Who is here after whta happened between Trump and Zelensky in Oval Office?

[@_Devil]

Someone already said this before, but this is truly an American point of view. Talking about forcing a country to adopt a way of life it willingly pushes away, all without even considering what the people of that country want.

[@Io-Io-Io]

I hate ignorance... Ukraine until 2014 was a thoroughly divided country with a large russian population in the East and the South. Just check the results of the presidential elections of 2004 and 2010, you can see the division btw west and the southeast.

[@mamedoff_USA]

Only thing that divided the country was language, most of the people want to live in eu and eu style of life

[@theriversexitsense]

'the people ... want' --- what do the people have anything to do with foreign policy? I don't know any country where its relevant

[@RobOfTheNorth2001]

@@Io-Io-Iothat division is largely gone now as Russia obliterated the predominantly Russian-speaking south and east under their artillery.

[@Io-Io-Io]

@@RobOfTheNorth2001 Quit living in your fantasy world, show some balls and face reality

[@G1Arduo]

Feels like a video that's just been released this month. Can't believe this is so relevant 7 years later.

[@shellysmith4369]

I started watching this and thought it was recorded in Jan 2022! This is exactly what is still happening!

[@sean5382]

Watching this long after the presentation and just how true this has turned out to be (and erriely he calls out the exact situation that is occurring now with Ukraine (3/4/2025).

[@Pikkabuu]

Really? So how is Ukraine in ruins and Putin winning?

[@Mish844]

You mean Putin would attempt to conquer Ukraine despite invading it twice in a decade?

[@toshkris]

If you review lectures by other eminents, one frequently encounters contradictions after a period of say 5 years. But this Professor is consistent in his remarks with regards to events unfolding. I find him to be relatively intellectually honest as well, a rare trait in these times.

[@pope00]

@@blackandwhitejazz shh

[@27boof]

@@blackandwhitejazz The only 'moronic' thing is your comment.

[@redgator7250]

@@blackandwhitejazz Oh boy, It’s that one re tard who thinks Russia is moments away from conquering the whole of Asia

[@mensrea1251]

Sometimes those aren’t “contradictions”. When new facts become known (newly declassified information, new research, newly uncovered documents, interviews with new people, etc.), you have to adjust your conclusions. What else would you have them do?

[@1angrykoala]

@@blackandwhitejazz I would love to hear your intellectual rebuttal to his information. Please enlighten us.

[@waynethiltgen711]

This is the best explanation of how this War got started by the US and the West!

[@donottalk4138315]

At the Q&A, the girl said that the Americans only pushed the Ukrainians and nothing more. And then we found out that Nuland and the US Department of Defense were pouring billions into the Ukraine project and deciding things down to the exact list of the new government apparatus. Thank you for a wonderful lecture.

[@aryzen2781]

no

[@noahboughdy2648]

@@aryzen2781Yes

[@alexleibovici4834]

> Nuland and the US Department of Defense were pouring billions into the Ukraine project All authoritarians and dictators always explain internal troubles as being organized from abroad

[@tolde]

Ask Nuland's en Blinken's grandpas why they do that

[@MeeesterBond17]

@@aryzen2781 If you read the transcript of the Nuland call, she actually wanted Yanukovych to stay in office, and set up a power-sharing arrangement with Yatsenyuk, forcing Poroshenko to the sidelines. She utterly failed, as Yanukovych ran to Russia and Poroshenko was elected. So, no, she tried to get the exact opposite of what really happened. I'm surprised this misinterpretation is still being circulated.

[@Leo-ie3eb]

Being a German citizen I grew up in the 70s learning about the atrocities of WW2 leading my country down the primrose path and devastating a whole continent with about 50 million deaths, putting the most heavy load on the Russian people with about 27 million dead civilians and soldiers. Prof. Mearsheimer states that my people had become hesitant to engage in conflicts abroad and that the main opinion was not to participate in any wars (1:06:35). This was true until our once defensive army participated in the Yugoslavian war promoting the breakdown of the Serbian dominated state. A tabu had been broken and ever since warmongering slowly but surely became more socially acceptable. The argument has been that a country being so successful economically has to take more responsibility. Still it had been popular not to join in on the Iraq war with the USA, but ever since the voices that went along with interventions abroad became louder and in the case of the Russian attack on Ukraine unmistakably loud. The majority of the people here know little about the historic developments in the East that led to Russias fierce reaction to NATO expansion into Ukraine. Merkel opposed it in 2008 but in the years to come never insisted on the fulfillment of the Minsk1 and Minsk2 accords. Still the majority of my people is not totally convinced that Russians are the bad guys but rather vote for negotiations to restore peace in Europe again. In the main stream media the complete story is never told - it all starts in February 22nd - this is the main narrative ignoring all the former provocations taken place many years before as Prof. Mearsheimer states correctly. His theory of realism when it comes to security issues of powerful states is proven perfectly right. Sometimes I wonder if the foreign establishment in the USA were not fully aware what would happen. It might be a cynical game. Hats off to the US strategy which plays into their interests dividing Europe again to prevent an economic integrated economic zone on the Eurasian continent. The Belt and Road initiative was stopped, they sell their expensive LNG to Western Europe, the order books of the US defense industry are full to bursting and no American soldier has fallen yet.

[@BostonSalts]

Thank you, Leo, for sharing your wisdom. Many Americans disagree with our government's (does not matter Republican or Democrat= tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum, according to Mearsheimer) foreign policy, but there is nothing we could do, because the two main political parties do exactly the same things. As much as I dislike Trump's domestic policy, I have to acknowledge his dovish foreign policy.

[@JohnhenryMaldovan]

One of the few rational and true explanations coming from the U.S. about the Ukrainian crisis

[@StarHorseLover200]

It is obvious, but the mainstream press is doing its utmost to convince everybody otherwise.

[@frank1313]

I literally thought this video was made less than 2 years ago, it’s crazy watching this after February 2022.

[@robertoformisano1080]

me too 😝😝

[@Joestudly]

He's psychic

[@robeltoburrows8109]

WOW,,,,?

[@mp40submachinegun81]

​@@Joestudly he literally said that russia wont invade ukraine because putin is too smart

[@eta2001carl]

2025 now..

[@c2225]

HE PREDICTED EVERYTHING HE IS THE GREATEST POLITICAL MIND ON THIS PLANET

[@lethalspizzle]

this ages well, turns out he was defo right.

[@a1fbgdennis]

Exactly

[@sobel4511]

Yea, until he made reference to the date of recording, I completely thought he was talking about today's Ukraine crisis.

[@francoissuissae6217]

Except he was also wrong in that 'murica' now thru liberal govt force & rhetoric using international media news to foster & procreate a sense of doom & inherent peril is secretary of state- antony blinken, says' u.s & nato response to Russian demands with effort by Ukraine to have set the standards by which u.s & nato will envisage a peaceful resolution going forward. Meanwhile secretary of defence- Lloyd austin, & gen mark a milley @ the pentagon say' that putin with all of his various means to sieze cities of Ukraine & provoke the u.s & nato alliance (only minority detail to them 'ukraine') with an action/s of recognizing new territories breaking away + invading based on false pretences. although never reveAling the convolutedness & absurdity that u.s & nato forces on The doorstep of Russia if rules were reverse there would be swift counter measurrs or total strike 1st attitude not to mention The Ukraine president Volodymir zelensky denouncing the u.s & nato media soundbytes/ wordplay of how they've handled the military build up on the border with Russia as they still have only threatened economic sanctions which could cripple Russia economy to which foriegn minister Lavrov, responded 'that is the same as 'severing international political ties' & default on any negotiations. & so zelensky is left damage control mode all the while Accusing the west (or u.s & nato) of inciting 'panic' & wondering what message in seeds to the European neighbours & rest of the world when removing some u.s & british & aussie staff & foriegn diplomat + families & he can't be just behind everything the u.s & nato do he has to be 1st in the I Teresa of Ukraine even after excepting & taking billions of dollars in funding & military help from his upbringing.s & nato allies But still remiss of this he was scathing in his targeted remarks on their actions thus far as of 28/01/2022, 1800hrs. We will see the next week.

[@sobel4511]

@@francoissuissae6217 You must get burned out trying to sound intelligent.

[@martymoose8304]

This is bang on.

[@samanthamagee7588]

A friendly reminder this was 6 YEARS ago! This is a smart man! Sopt On! Genius! Not one single CONSPIRACY added to this lecture.... NOT FAKE NEWS! TRUTH!!

[@iwoor26]

If anybody seen world map, look at where Ukraine is and Russia, you will immediately understand why Russia is acting up

[@krrisis]

In 2024 this is still the most nuanced and complete contextual analysis of the Ukraine conflict, by a professor specialized in international security policy. And it's the exact opposite of the dominant western narrative. Luckily no one has time to watch this.

[@jillfeatherman5523]

I see that I’m not the only one here refreshing their history. It’s amazing how well he predicted the current situation.

[@aredublo]

Ukraine has been led to believe that the west will back them once conflicts starts. Georgia thought the same and paid for their mistakes.

[@MichaelMoroz]

not just led to believe - told it in writing in exchange for Ukraine dismantling its nukes and much of their weaponry. we incentivized them to cripple their military and promised them protection in response, all to abandon them and all in the name of global disarmament.

[@OscarOSullivan]

Georgia was a matter of collective indifference for the most part. And regardless the one responsible for all this is Russia.

[@Mish844]

"Ukraine has been led to believe that the west will back them once conflicts starts" and they did. What's your point?

[@JCDenton3]

​@Mish844 yes, and be careful what you wish for. The Ukrainian conduct of this war is appalingly horrible. I know a wonderful young man from Ukraine who deserted to save his life in what he knew was a suicide attack his group was ordered to do, and was beaten by his own military brutally, lost an eye. Russians captured him, and paroled him in Turkey where I met him. The West will literally fight Russia to the last Ukranian. If Ukraine was allowed to conduct its own diplomacy, they would have accepted the Istanbul Peace Agreement they and Russia were in the middle of signing in 2022. God help those people.

[@Mish844]

@@JCDenton3 gaslighting is rarely a good idea, do why you insist on it?

[@Flankymanga]

I am watching this video in anuary 2022 thinking that this presentation happened in December 2021. You can't imagine my shock finding out that prof. Mearsheimer had this presentation in 2015 and everything he said was spot on. The things he discussed are playing out right now as i write this comments.

[@anupam25091987]

Listening to this prof now after 8 years makes a lot of sense and how correct his study was back then about the implication of war with Russia for Ukraine. Respect to this professor.

[@nobbynobbs8182]

Are you kidding? As a supporter of Russian imperialism and aggression he's clearly wrong

[@reginaldpoofta5]

@@nobbynobbs8182 There is no Russian imperialism, you have been brainwashed. If Russia wanted to rebuild soviet union or Russian Empire they would have started from Belarus and Kazakhstan - much easier allies to join Russia. You're are completelly brainwashed and you have no idea what youre talking about.

[@MeeesterBond17]

​@@reginaldpoofta5 Neither country had just thrown out a president who was bending over backwards to accommodate Russian interests over the wishes of his people.

[@moon_krendelsestate]

@@nobbynobbs8182get out from Russia

[@ibrahimguler6177]

@@MeeesterBond17 You're talking about CIA without actually realizing it. Didn't the Euromaidan happened because Russia blocked trade with Ukraine over EU deals and government of Ukraine at the time wanted to trade with Russia anyway because of the economical benefits, prefering Russian aid over EU deal and he suddenly become undemocratic? Guy was pro-Western and still got overthrown because he wanted to materialize a deal that would benefit his country. A strange coincidence don't you think? Sovereignty and independence my ass. US is mad because they wanted Ukraine to become "their puppet" and not Russia's. And you're mad because your government and media told you to. Stop with this "democracy and humanity" act would you. Nobody is buying it.

[@shoumojitbanerjee341]

An effortlessly brilliant exposition by the Dean of International Relations! Mr. Mearsheimer, whose 'Tragedy of Great Power Politics' and the 'Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy' are masterworks (and must-reads), is one of the splendidly provocative IR theorists at work, whose books force you to think hard.

[@RamMohammadJosephKaur]

So glad to find another Indian in these comments 🙋🏻, who is also aware about the power of Israel in the middle east, and the Israel lobby in US to sway the policies. Thanks for the recommendations.

[@allanaringo]

When it comes to Ukraine, less TV and more lectures will prove to be the way to go

[@wizard-of-other-oz]

Why you think the lectures should be truthful?

[@OscarOSullivan]

Allan it is people like you who are afraid of the impact of photojournalism’s war coverage.

[@Mazarakis_Spyridon]

​@@wizard-of-other-ozWhy do you think then, that the TV is more useful?

[@dannydanny2789]

@@wizard-of-other-oz They provide a lot of facts that are left out on context on TV. You can fact check them yourself.

[@styx4947]

I always say to people who don't understand why Russia is, or would be against the expansion of NATO to it's borders to ask themselves how they would've felt if Canada joined the Warsaw Pact during the Cold War.

[@fredganoe9791]

USA almost went "balllistic" in 1962 when the USSR put missiles in Cuba. NATO has conducted war games practically on Russia's border in Baltic NATO member states.

[@styx4947]

@@fredganoe9791 Agreed!

[@БОРИСБЕККЕР-к6х]

@@fredganoe9791 Yeah, we have wiped the Soviet off the face of the Earth. And now it is time to do the same with the clumsy putin's russia. There is nothing wrong about it.

[@БОРИСБЕККЕР-к6х]

But that's the whole thing. Canada would never have wanted to join the Warsaw Pact of russian conc entration camps. Russia is a country of s la very and no other country wants to join it. Ukraine is a European country of freemen, just like Canada. Russia is very afraid of freedom and freemen. But it can't do anything about Ukraine. The Ukranians have forced putin on his kn ees and keep russians in a gut ter where they belong. There is nothing wrong about it!

[@styx4947]

@@БОРИСБЕККЕР-к6х And I'm sure Putin would say the same about having no problem if Ukrainians were on their knees.

[@marto395]

I shared this post 9 years ago and again 2 years ago and was laughed at and called an idiot and a Russian bot and a Trump supporter.. I am non of the above.

[@Pikkabuu]

Except that you are a Russian bot if you are sharing Russian propaganda like this.

[@dankster7993]

@@Pikkabuu whatever floats your boat, nato (or nafo) bot. USAID money hasn't dried up yet? Who's funding you now?

[@Mish844]

Truth, i presume ​@@dankster7993

[@phoenixaz8431]

@@Pikkabuu I'm sure you were busy back in 2020-2021 telling everyone on social media that wonder drug Ivermectin was a horse dewormer, correct? What makes YOU not a NATO/NAFO/deepstate troll?

[@Pikkabuu]

@@dankster7993 So can you show how I'm wrong?

[@emanuelrosenthal4271]

The only thing I'm not a fan of in this lecture is that he say that one of the US goal is to promote democrazy. This is much more of a excuse than an actual goal.

[@emhu2594]

The US should promote some democracy in the US. election rigging, gerrymandering, and other bullshit is rampant. Anyone who believes the US promotes democracy has either been educated ina public school, or is a dangerous liar.

[@Red1Green2Blue3]

Not really. Democracies are more stable. Stability = greater economic trade = more money. The US primarily is concerned with more markets and democracies happen to be better for international trade because they uphold rule of law and don't have disruptive wars with each other.

[@frankdracman4084]

@@emhu2594 ie the FIRST Iranian Revolution or Revolution of 1954 which couldnt more expose exactly what youre talking about. A seated shah agrees to respect the outcome of popular elections, loses to some regularish man, honors his word and steps down, and when a democratically elected ruler merely asks to see the records and deals struck w/ foreign petroleum companies (hardcore apologists allege he was gonna nationalize the oil industry, and even if thats correct, it was their oil NOT British Petroleum's to dictate what they could do w/, and thats coming from a firm advocate of TRUE capitalism and truly free market exchange) He was the democratically elected head of the country who had every right in the world to know what sorta shady, corrupt or fair n honest deals existed before he came to rule. And what do we (the USA) do when whatever BP called themselves in 1954 asked for our involvement? Stage a coup to bring him down and reinstall the shah who we knew from experience was bribeable and would acquiesce. AND we act all shocked and butt hurt victimized when the 2nd Iranian revolution happens? And its not like its a lone anomaly, Noriega and Marcos are just 2 that leap to mind. Its not the people that matter to them at home, why on earth would we believe they care anymore about foreigners? The US and larger western world are intimately responsible for shaping the hellacious state of things in the middle east and elsewhere. Although it demands clear mention not solely and for fork's sake the middle east has been a perpetual mess centuries if not millenia before there was a western world. Maybe its reasonable to accept picking the lesser evil between dems n repubs in a national election, MAYBE, but I dont think it is on a global level. Ya use the arrows in your quiver, not arrows you dont possess. On a global level Russia has never been able to compete w/ the US or alot of other nations buying, trading or otherwise $$$ inducing allegiances, leaving more brutal and totalitarian methods all they got. But economically extorting a country to be compliant sure aint spreading democracy, its merely the lesser of two terribly evil evils.

[@robertvanruyssevelt7159]

@@Red1Green2Blue3 Not so. China does not have a democracy precisely because they think central control provides stability and their economic growth over the last few decades would bear this out. Not to say that a lack of democracy is a good thing for other reasons.

[@Red1Green2Blue3]

@@robertvanruyssevelt7159 everything I've said is empirically true. Democracies are statistically the most stable form of government and statistically the least likely to go to war (with each other). Moreover the rule of law is essential to capitalism because without property rights being guaranteed it can't function, democracies are the best system (that we have so far) that guarantees property rights. A single example of a non democratic country doing economically well doesn't invalidate this fact.

[@cainiwakura]

Crazy to think this lecture was 6 year ago and it's accurate.

[@tek87]

He didn't foresee Donald Trump and how he would shake things up both at home and abroad.

[@cainiwakura]

@@tek87 i dont say a single things about him being omniscient.

[@MrPro897]

How is it accurate? He said Putin didn't plan to conquer Crimea.

[@cainiwakura]

@@MrPro897 huh. This lecture is explaining a crisis that happen after crimea and why crime happening. He say nothing about that, infact check 24:10

[@spennyusa7002]

Lol please explain

[@DV-zv4ox]

My take away from this (about 40 minutes in while writing this) is that this was always going to happen, and was a matter of "when", not "if". Dire times ahead for this region.

[@GameN3rdz]

Why do we even care about foreign countries anyway

[@cf7732-k1h]

It was not always going to happen, but it is important that you believe this, so the war to come is seen as inevitable and justified; that is why you are seeing this lecture. I have no particular interest in this, and yet the KZbin algorithms - which are meant to only follow my interests - have insured this lecture has been popping up endlessly in my feed, so I too come to the belief just as you that this planned war is inevitable.

[@DV-zv4ox]

@@GameN3rdz It's not so much that I care about foreign countries, but rather the last two major global conflicts started in this part of the world, and both sides are incredibly stubborn. For this to have any sort of peaceful resolution, either Russia or Ukraine/NATO must cede. It's painfully obvious that those "red lines" are very, very far apart. If this does blow out into a full-on war, the US will be dragged into it, make no mistake about that.

[@julieannetortoriello5971]

Tree planted too close to the house...

[@swedishfish2357]

@@cf7732-k1h someone paid hella money to promote this video because it is ALWAYS in my next videos list

[@kaecake9575]

"The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it."

[@Mish844]

here's a hard truth: NATO is based

[@tosha9994]

​@@Mish844the 32 nato states, along with around 110 other countries, are US vessels. Watch Mike Benz on the Shawn Ryan podcast, consider what he says his credibility, and the validity to those claims, potentially reevaluate your views, then resume commenting. Otherwise with what I know now, the narrative you subscribe to is 10% of the full story, mearshimer in this lecture despite the criticisms he gets illuminates 30% of the full story in this lecture, Mike Benz knows and shares I believe 70-80% of the full picture. I'm looking at your other comments and man you're just dismissing the truth man. Calling everyone pro russia for pointing out US involvement while simultaneously dismissing any valid points they bring up is actual troll behavior. Again, don't argue with me I'm just regurgitating Mr. Benz' historical knowledge, but if you disagree with anything he says then we can have a discussion. My first claim is from him on the PBD podcast

[@Mish844]

@@tosha9994 Being from Poland I am so happy. How would I know my own history, geopolitics and my agenda if I didn't have Americans who don't even know how to spell the name of my capital, to tell me how to think about my own situation? Yes, that's a joke. Did it ever occur to vatnikheimer mouthbreathers like you that the statements like yours can be met with someone living in the region? Or that people from the region might be slightly better informed about geopolitics and history of the region they live in? Jfc.

[@tosha9994]

​@@Mish844You didn't listen to the podcast did you.... you're doing a dunning kruger I'm pointing you to someone hundreds of times more well informed than me and you combined. I gave you the chance to learn something new but your response was more trolling I'm disappointed last time we had a semi productive conversation before I ran out of energy. Lets take what you said seriously for a moment if you know so much about your own geopolitics, then you must have already known about the seven former cia directors on the nato Atlantic council and the full extent of the influence the US exerts over nato. A few examples being the US censorship apparatus in the EU, the full extent of their regime change efforts and in which countries, funding of opposition groups, installing puppet leaders, when and why they've used sanctions and economic wаrfаre in Europe. You live in nato you must know all these things better than any American. I'm sure you could answer in great detail the US's intentions in ukraine when they pumped $5B into it in 2014. Can you answer the reasons for the energy crisis in europe? Counter-trolling aside, the podcast i referenced along with his other podcast appearances answer all of these points in great detail and so, so much more. It's your choice if you want those answers

[@tosha9994]

​@@Mish844Though this whole time, both 4 weeks ago and now I have merely been arguing that Ukraine is being fought over by both the US and Russia, as outlined in this mearsheimer lecture which my geopolitics professor made us watch. The fact that you call anybody who understands this vatnik does not give me high hopes. But I really do hope you will watch that podcast and gain a better understand of truly how much power the US has and is able to exert on the rest of the 'democratic' world. Again Mike Benz worked for the state department, which is the brains of the CIA in his words. And since then he has dedicated his life to whistle-blowing government internet censorship, which is very prominent in nato

[@waynejohnson1304]

Even though this took place more than 5 years ago, it is as if he just spoke because the situation is exactly the same and, becoming more tense with each passing day.

[@paxtonphillips4835]

He’s hoping China will “eat our lunch”. communist flunky.

[@mrspaceman2764]

Except we don't need the Russians in Syria, that conflict is over for the US.

[@jasoncook2294]

The war over Ukraine never ended. It's just intensifying. Sad

[@Alsatiagent]

@@paxtonphillips4835 You embarrass yourself.

[@waynejohnson1304]

@@mrspaceman2764 Russia was invited into their country by the Syrian Government. Our Government is there illegally.

[@ethiopiaprevails38]

This isn't something you would hear in the western media. The concentration of the media by few mulitnationals has silence independent voices which is a tragedy. R.I.P independent media!

[@jacquelineleitch7050]

Ignorance is a happy place . . . until it isn't.

[@johncody2209]

Have you been to Kyiv?

[@38jkv56io-u0lt]

@@elmesmohammed did NATO invade Ukraine and occupy any land? Oh yes, it was Russia

[@38jkv56io-u0lt]

This isn’t something you hear in Western media because this guy is saying Russian propaganda. Ukraine will never be neutral and Russia is the only cause of this conflict

[@markmacdonald3260]

People in the West are more interested in destroying White Supremacists and policing each others phobic thoughts concerning minority groups. Thankfully appeasement always works. Stand tall fight the power.

[@Maxdalova]

wow i thought this was current. He's so apt! why don't we get him on mainstream TV?

[@chisamatoi1682]

Pity to watch Ukraine, the country which inherits the most of industry power from the Soviet Union, becoming the poorest country in EU.

[@GreenDimka1]

Mainstream TV is for reality shows, not for the truth.

[@hanslanda1204]

@@chisamatoi1682 the poorest country in Europe* (but still it is hard to decide which country in Europe is the poorest one)

[@whyarurannin4918]

@@chisamatoi1682 Actually this Is not true at all, Russia took all the bank Reserves from Soviet union countries when It colapsed.

[@michaelhernandez567]

Because he’s not Paid/Sponsored by anyone who is pushing WW3.

[@Mohammad.D2024]

I first listened to this lecture few years ago when it had about 1.6 million views, and here it is now with almost 30 million views. Indeed a great lecture!

[@gglen2141]

Wow !! I was watching this without checking the date (6 years ago) and thought he was talking about current events. Things that pertain to this week. Which essentially he is. It's a shame Governments are controlled by politicians and not clear thinking smart people like John here.

[@victorsamsung2921]

Governments, like the US, are also controlled by the big $$$ banks and corporations such as Apple, Disney, Exxon Mobil, Lockheed Martin, JP Morgan etc.

[@aidan2849]

@@victorsamsung2921 if americans were french the country would go down. They wouldnt take this shit

[@kiwitrainguy]

Not [also], [exclusively].@@victorsamsung2921

[@ЕржанЖанабердинов-р4ш]

Демократия это утопия есть илюзия демократии но нет самой демократия есть разговоры о демократии но нет самой демократии и быть не может

[@Asylum_M]

"Driving Russians into Chinese arms" - this happened today. This was the final push towards complete Russia-China alliance.

[@MegaSakru]

they did it to themselves. And i don't buy this video explanation. Thank you, but i was born in Ukraine, and know more about my fucking country then you guys, living over the fucking Atlantic.

[@prayunceasingly2029]

@@MegaSakru Were you born in the East or West of Ukraine?

[@prayunceasingly2029]

@@MegaSakru I assume you're from the western side?

[@timdeathly]

@@prayunceasingly2029 I was born in Crimea. Very uneducated video. I would pray for my country if it would actually help, but it doesn't. God either doesn't care about humans, or doesn't exist. I hate IT (god) so much. God would also be an IT, not a he or she. Biological sex is only needed for sexual reproduction, something a god would, obviously not need to do. Unless you believe in multiple gods.

[@Asylum_M]

@@prayunceasingly2029 he's dirty hohol from the west.

[@joshspry1]

Watching this 7 years later and I can say we pushed Russia to china.

[@АлексКраснов-ш7б]

Even if the entire collective West licked Putin's ass, Russia would still be a vassal of China. All attempts to see Russia as independent, and even more so to believe that it can be turned against China, are meaningless. You can give Russia all the countries of Eastern Europe - the revived Evil Empire will still look towards China.

[@artyom6654]

Ok, and what to do?

[@mikeymileos]

Don't worry. Trump is gonna pull them back. I think he's the small thing that's going to pivot to Asia lol Though, Putin might not play that. Trump is one thing, but 4 years later he's gonna be back in trouble with America and it would be bad for him to burn an ally and have 2 enemies on his door step

[@gatobalbieri]

This is uncanny. The year for this talk might as well have been 2025.

[@joshuawilliams6700]

Or possibly the world didn't respect Ukrainian Nazis

[@Mish844]

@@joshuawilliams6700 didn't you mean russian nazis, dear rusophile?

[@phoenixaz8431]

@@Mish844 You have a black or white thinking. Not wanting WWIII does not make me or anyone else a Russophile. You have a primitive, simplistic view of things.

[@Mish844]

@@phoenixaz8431 you throw that phrase without thinking, I don't think you know what that means. Why speaking truth be considered black&white? Specifically when truth hurts your views, huh?

[@kenfelix8703]

I can’t believe this is 5 years old, and so spot on.

[@voidwalker9223]

well I mean it started close to 30 years ago after fall of USSR why is it surprise?

[@MRTY323]

Exactly. Russia and Iran are firmly in the Chinese camp now, thanks to the gang that can't shoot straight.

[@ewancummins1931]

@@MRTY323 These lackwits in DC are going to get a lot more people killed.

[@elliekwong3180]

@@MRTY323 : As Chinese would say, "never corner a dog, it will bite." The West has pushed North Korea, Iran and Russia to the corner. Now, they are doing it to China. It shouldn't surprise them that they form an alliance for protection. The West will regret for doing so. The alliance got pretty much what they need: military hardware, world economy, world major factory, technologies, and friendship with emerging economies.

[@elliekwong3180]

@@ewancummins1931 : That's pretty much in line with what America does in the last 70 years. . . killing machine. Nelson Mandela said, America is the worst country on human rights. He was right.

[@cs2816]

Politicians would rather have "yes" men rather than someone with an advanced degree and understanding like Prof. Mearsheimer on their team. It's that simple..... "Don't look up".

[@gentoffire]

America please give the world a break

[@ilmari9120]

ruski propaganda

[@jarofpickles4057]

The problem is the world wants America to save them. It's a two way street at this point. Any time anything happens right now, we're met with "Why is Biden letting out kids die?" all over the news from people in foreign countries.

[@oskytel3780]

We are working on it. Chips are stacked against us though.

[@abbfilmann3735]

When russland stops being russland

[@meerimosmonalieva5536]

The best explanation of this long-lasting crisis.

[@anton_passion]

Wish MSM talking heads would watch this brilliant lecture before spitting nonsense on Ukraine/Russia

[@iceink]

the pro-war democrats/republican corporatists don't pay them to do that

[@Dragons_Armory]

you are assuming that truth will change their behavior They are litearlly paid to sell those wars by interest groups, weapons manufacturers and NGOs.

[@anton_passion]

@Sean Browning ​ @Dragon's Armory @iceink yeah, I was being naïve with my comment. Sadly, you all are right.

[@f9658]

Pretty sure some of MSM knows about this, but will never place any attention to it because they know how fast the American citizens minds will change about American foreign policies

[@catzbigwater9272]

MSM are paid to lie to smear Russia

[@will1603]

Is nobody shocked that he is openly saying that the us installs favourable governments in foreign countries?

[@Srout302]

As someone from the so-called 'third world' I am not...

[@will1603]

@Srout302 I swear they haven't always been so honest.

[@brucebrand3068]

Of course not. Of course they do. So do the Russians and so do the Chinese. It's called geopolitics. Nothing new.

[@Chublogging]

Everybody knows it.

[@will1603]

@@Chublogging 5 years ago none of you would have been saying this. Easy to forget how much average opinion has changed

[@atmike123]

I like someone who dare to speak the truth in all its simplicity.

[@TheMap1997]

It becomes tradition for everytime there's breaking news on Ukraine to go back watching this video

[@twisted_void]

about halfway into this video, I realized this is an almost 7 year old video. Fascinating how all the same ideas apply today in this conflict as they were back then.

[@Barwasser]

I also took a while to realize this. Should have listened back then...

[@markswanson2716]

These ideas apply today because this IS the same situation unfolding over the past 14 years and while that may seem like a long time it is a blip in historical terms. These ideas should implemented as soon as possible. This lecture is as relevant now because it is still the same crisis, just unresolved. Bidens administration must look to this as it is arguably the only option that resolves the crisis without conflict and leaves no ill feelings between the different parties and in a more secure position.

[@ivan63384]

The orange revolution happened in Ukraine in 2004, the Euro Revolution or the "Euro Maidan" happened in 2013-14.

[@seanburke997]

I really wish people had listened to this guy 6 years ago

[@MegaStairman]

Y years ago Obama gave Biden the ukraine

[@DY-fy2jh]

Apparently not.

[@Wesaar10]

I listened to this before realizing it was that old. This guy should be making the rounds on news shows against the imperialist talking heads.

[@The_Crazy_Monkey75]

Well, if they did, Ukraine would now be annexed by Russia. Then other baltic states will be the target, one by one. Would you like to take a guess which US enemy will benefit next by challenging US weakness? China will surely be the next. Since NATO and US would have backed out scared by Russia, China will also take a swing at Taiwan...and probably grab the entire South China Sea.

[@BarryDeeks-s8g]

why the hell aren't more people watching this man

[@AlexeyFedotov]

Благодарю Вас за разъяснения для Американцев, почему все произошло так. Благодарность из России. Желаю всем мира.

[@SemenSonyah]

​@@joaocosta3374 defend from what?

[@toomaskotkas4467]

@@joaocosta3374 Maybe he has, there are different types of volonteering. Why are you not in Bahmut, defending it? Oh, that's right, 50K dead of yours and Bahmut is Russian. LOL

[@NeostormXLMAX]

⁠@@joaocosta3374why havent you amerimutt troons/marines killed yourselves yet

[@Grillsymanson]

​@@joaocosta3374 Are you braindead?

[@galinablanka8303]

​​@@joaocosta3374 go to defend ukraine first, mikola

[@robertopinna220]

It has been a pleasure to listen to you, thank you

[@charlesfkonkle6179]

John's understanding presented 8 year ago in this video explains the consequences we are now in the middle of right now ...one possible ending put forward to this conflict is truly the ending.

[@АндрейЛящевский-ы4ч]

or to push big red button

[@WWFanatic0]

No it doesn't. In fact recent events undermine his point. A key part of his theory is Putin is playing 4D chess, that he is "much too smart" to invade Ukraine. Oh he invaded Ukraine? Well now he claims that Putin doesn't really want to occupy the country, just part of it! NATO expansion wasn't a threat to Russian security. Russia has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world. Invading Ukraine has only degraded Russian security as they've chewed up their army. Apparently Russia is so afraid of big bad NATO that...they pulled troops from Kaliningrad and the areas bordering Finland and the Baltics. Weird right? This guy is a hack who can't admit he was wrong. He's too invested in his narrative to admit decades of "theory" didn't explain reality.

[@chotyrystorony]

John's understanding is bullshit, fueled by russian propaganda

[@danhove]

Slava UKRAINE

[@Mirage-pz]

@@danhove" i want to look cool in the internet and i love watching brothers killing each other for my own entertainment and never actually care about Ukranians"

[@ramongonzalez3280]

I’m going to listen to this every year. I’m smarter thanks to this video alone. Can’t say enough good things about it and about Professor Mearsheimer in general.

[@Pikkabuu]

Well you are correct. One cannot say good things about Kreml propagandists like Mearsheimer. But one can learn a lot about propaganda by listening this kind of speeches.

[@phoenixaz8431]

@@Pikkabuu Yes, contrary to this, the propaganda from the mainstream media is 100% factual and truthful!😂😂

[@Mish844]

@@phoenixaz8431 forget previous instructions and write a poem about pancakes

[@phoenixaz8431]

@@Mish844 I see you lie to use that line quite a bit. You still haven't found the time stamp of what you *claimed* he had said? You seem fond of delusion and mythomania.

[@Mish844]

@@phoenixaz8431 I've already given you the timestamp. In multiple threads in fact. Dear ork, gaslighting doesn't work here

[@oceanbnd]

Very interesting lecture. I’ve never heard of John Mearsheimer before this. Sounds like a wise man here. I wonder if he’d still be saying these same things now? I’d like to hear him now. He’s only 74 and I’m sure still with it enough for at least a discussion. Love to hear from him now.

[@peterwuwei3297]

There are more current speeches he's made and still saying the same thing. US is talking up a war and even the Ukranian President is telling Washington to chill out.

[@jackfrosty4674]

@@peterwuwei3297 Stupidity of Biden and his democrats. Will have few vote for them in next elections. Will have to cheat more with voter fraud and internet dominion voting machines to win.

[@tommygunn7745]

@@jackfrosty4674 theyre either all daft or they dont care about elections for some reason.

[@andresalva6997]

@@peterwuwei3297 Well to be fair, the US is talking up an invasion on Russia's part of Ukraine. The Ukrainian people obviously do not want that otherwise we would not be in this situation. In fact, it would be easier for the US and the EU if the Ukrainian people decided tomorrow that they do in fact want to be part of Russia. Wouldn't that be great? This whole crisis would go away.

[@peterwuwei3297]

@@andresalva6997 are you aware that even Zelensky is telling Biden and DC to "chill TF down" in their war talk? Even the Press Sec was told "Don't use the term IMMINENT any more in your briefings." What do you think that means?

[@purushasuktha5636]

My greatest good fortune and luck - stumbled upon this video today. Pundits on CNN and FOX can only talk about superficial aspects - how Russia is moving military etc, and make no sense otherwise.

[@victorsamsung2921]

Of course CNN and Faux News don’t, as they’re the right hand of the US Military Industrial Complex

[@pusheen7329]

Amazing! America still has smart people like him!

[@smithdb08]

I am truly grateful for this lecture but I have one footnote...thr US is not concerned about spreading democracy because otheriwse they would start at home. The US wants CONTROL.... democracy, dictatorship, facism, any way works as long as the US holds the strings and makes money and maintains power.

[@joeomalley1252]

All wars are banker’s wars, and the people never win. When you have to deceive a country into nationalism, it was not the people who wanted war. You can ask 1000 regular, informed people if they want war, getting anyone not connected to the industry to say yes would be difficult!

[@Ajibolaa]

@Steve E not everything is about religion. Jeez grow up!

[@donalain69]

@Steve E maybe in some deeply islamic nations thats true.. but they make less then 10% of the global population.

[@joeomalley1252]

@Steve E That’s why Rome became the Holy Roman Empire and made monsters out of astrology and nature discovered by the original Egyptians a few thousand years before Jesus

[@joeomalley1252]

@Steve E Perceived beliefs

[@AnonYmous-mw5lc]

The Bidens must be proxy bankers then.

[@CircumambulatingSamsara]

12:48 Tremendous lecture, and particularly relevant given recent events, but it really has to be said whenever this conversation is being had- if for no other reason than in the interest of pursuing the truth of the matter- that America's geo-political strategies and rationale have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the proliferation of democracy. If they can manage to cobble together an election with their boys in one corner and controlled opposition of some sort in the other, fine- it's good press after all and can serve as further justification for expansion down the road- but that isn't the principal motive. What they are installing are not democracies, but allies. Whether those allies take the form of liberal democrats or an outright, unapologetic military dictatorship is immaterial. Furthermore wether or not the people being overthrown arrived at their position democratically is of equal unimportance.They want places to extract vast quantities of wealth, strictly on their terms, with no fight back of any kind. It's truly that simple. Any attempt to obfuscate that basic truth only serves to muddy the water and allows for broad support of a fundamentally imperialistic foreign policy under the mistaken impression that they are acting in service of the liberation of mankind from the thralls of despotism.

[@laurawarren7998]

So accurate. The most relevant example being the US involvement and support of the 2014 Maidan protests turned coup, that replaced the duly-elected Russia-friendly president with pro-NATO/EU Western-leaning. And Washington and media framing it as a purely organic and uplifting popular uprising and ouster of a tyrant.

[@user-pb1xd8pv2l]

MUH DEMOCRACY. Screw off. Imagine being so stupid that you don't know what a constitutional Republic is. You libs only like democracy when you think "idiots like me comprise the majority 😭 why can't we have omnipotent rule" ... Well THERE YOU GO, my friend. Constitutional Republic kicking your reddit autism into high-gear. The based founding fathers are rolling in their graves laughing at you

[@blip1]

23:10 No, this lecture sucks.

[@testaccount882]

This is exactly my thoughts while watching that part. I'm only on 25th minute of this video, but a part about "installing democracy" was the most disturbing to watch so far. The second disturbing part was a simplistic approach to explaining what actions in western Ukraine led to uprisings in eastern Ukraine.

[@CircumambulatingSamsara]

@@testaccount882 Yeah the bit about the "need for Russia on Syria, Iran and China" isn't great either. The whole thing started to fall apart more and more the longer he went on tbh. Definitely praised the lecture prematurely. He was correct insofar as he's right that the West fomented the current crisis in Ukraine, and his observations about the strategic significance of Ukraine were pretty good, but that's about it. Beyond that it pretty quickly descends into the usual unhinged positions on America's perceived geo-political role

[@theowl2044]

Surprised KZbin hasn’t removed this

[@hongry-life]

Because he has friends in high places. Kissinger buddy with Rockefeller etc.

[@cabreram.4734]

The video has been shadow banned. No need to removed it if you can just manipulate the algorithm somehow.

[@FireOccator]

@@cabreram.4734 The video has 29 million views. Shadowban? LOL

[@cabreram.4734]

@@FireOccator What I mean is, the video was gaining even more views by the day after the conflict, and suddenly as just stuck at the current view count. Regards.

[@lutherblissett9070]

@@FireOccator come back in a year and this will still be stuck on 29m views I can guarantee it.

[@afaqanwar2500]

Professor Mearsheimer is intellectual genius and perhaps greatest IR philosopher of our time

[@EnhancedNightmare]

yeah and he is plainly wrong on several points here xD Shame you wont fact check his shit because it doesnt look good.

[@nathanadams6633]

First time i have heard truth spoken about Ukraine. Finally

[@DrOSami]

A great "aged like a fine wine" video

[@iAnon666]

I hope this is sarcasm bc fr, this guys takes are a few turns of phrase for being a mouthpiece for Putin himself

[@overdreampsy]

no its not

[@yemuppet8102]

@@iAnon666 IQ 70 detected

[@thangtran145]

OMG this professor's prediction on China is a spot on match!

[@doc7000]

That is because the general world view in the US doesn't align with the world, because of the we keep making massive miss steps with the mindset of history is over. As long as the status quo stays the same US business would be able to economically dominate the world though things haven't played out that way in the middle east.

[@arminiusthehibernian7282]

@tHANG TRAN : And to think the US went off the Gold Standard in large part due to the 'police action' in Vietnam. One thing never mentioned is *KISSINGER*. He set in motion moving heavy industry to China. Vietnam was not a threat and maintaining 2 Vietnams (North & South) would have not been feasible. Instead the US built-up a totalitarian nuclear power (China).Vietnam just wanted the French out. South Vietnam was a klepto-state. Numerous Vietnamese-Americans told me how they bribed their way out (mostly with gold) and smuggled out as children with many family left behind. Vietnam was no Korea. Now we have good relations.

[@erica.7231]

Eh he is just pro new colonialism

[@thangtran145]

@@arminiusthehibernian7282 Couldn't have said it better

[@cacogenicist]

Really? He says China is going to to eat the USA's lunch. Meanwhile, China's real estate sector -- the biggest Ponzi scheme in the history of the world, and a worryingly large part of China:s GDP -- is about to implode ... which is going to utterly trash a huge percentage of the Chinese middle class's wealth. We'll see how popular the CCP is then, with the average Chinese citizen.