Inside California Education: California's Teacher Shortage

[@inthevault9603]

I’m a displaced teacher with 29 years of experience and the only district I’ve ever been with is passive aggressively threatening me with losing my career because of competition from younger more tech savvy teachers. But the truth is they can get 2 new teachers or 3 long term substitute teachers for one of me. They deserve these shortages, look how badly they treat us , use us up and spit us out!!!

[@inthevault9603]

20* years of experience

[@HarrySmith-hr2iv]

Same in UK. The other hindrance is everything must be politically correct as per the Frankfurt School of Critical Thinking and Post Modernism. Everything is ultra sloppy liberal and non thinking ANTIFA. There is violence in the classroom but you are warned not to deal with it in case The Local Press gets hold of the story. Then the school looses its status, parents withdraw their students and so teachers lose their jobs and pensions. Solution..just teach all students to count from 1 to 5, and to speak 10 words only!

[@katew.176]

@Alexander they do, as they match or at least contribute to a teacher's pension. However it's not the direct school site but the district it belongs to who does this.

[@Discovery_and_Change]

I think almost all companies/organizations "use us up and spit us out."

[@ratherbfishing455]

Most of the new teachers do not have manners and huge gaps in their knowledge. Many go to reject colleges.

[@l337pwnage]

If they'd fire the most of the useless administration and give that money to the teachers, the problem would evaporate.

[@stephanienagle1]

Well the cost of living in Cali is so high that you just can’t teach unless you’re married to someone who makes money. I teach in KY and there are about three teachers at my school who moved from Cali because the cost of living was too high to teach there. However, there are definitely other factors going on nationwide to also add to this issue.

[@jamesashford5275]

Who the heck would want to teach in SF? Too many things going against you. Ugh!

[@Asigedge]

They treat teachers as if theyre not responsible for the education of generations...they deserve so much better

[@oklahomahank2378]

No mention of the behavior of students and parents.

[@gidzmobug2323]

True--now teachers have to worry about discrimination charges and the administration and parents not standing behind when it comes to discipline. Many parents choose to pull their children out rather than put up with that or what the state mandates (gender "fluidity", children using restrooms/locker rooms of the opposite sex, etc).

[@gidzmobug2323]

@Alexander "sped"? What is that?

[@gidzmobug2323]

@Alexander and you think teachers will have to get a special credential?

[@doesntmatter2505]

Student behavior is terrible all grade levels. Clear reflection of bad parenting!

[@gidzmobug2323]

@@doesntmatter2505 It is not always the parents. Some children come from single-family homes, where the mother (usually the mother) has to be both parents.

[@jzwalz51robin45]

This is just a lot of 'fluff' to make it seem like administrators actually care. At the real level of interacting with school districts, there is no actual encouragement for candidates.

[@jo8726t]

Something doesn't add up you want teachers but they have to take test which they pay for.

[@benv7933]

Start off by paying teachers decently and get rid of standardized tests.

[@Plumber1111]

My town *small city really adopted a 8 mouth program that gives teacher certificates out for our state. The requirements are that you have a degree in the right fields and have no criminal record. We have two civil engineers teaching math at my sons middle school.

[@FreshKicks4545]

What part of california?

[@johncarrington8612]

None of the real problems were discussed as to what is happening to the teaching profession. You start with lower pay, if there is a recession you will never make up what you lost. Schools want the teachers to do more with less support and time in which to do it. The teaching profession does not get the respect from the public it deserves. I could go on for quite a while more as to what was not discussed but you get the point. I still like the students though.

[@bustamanteltnt6122]

correct, is not mental help but drug dealing and rehab needed in most homes.

[@Discovery_and_Change]

There might be a shortage of "licensed/qualified" teachers, but there doesn't seem to be a shortage of people wanting teaching jobs. I went to a "job fair" for teachers last weekend and there must've been over 50 of us looking for teaching jobs, whereas there were only 3, small(ish) school districts there to interview with. I doubt we would all be able to get hired this upcoming school year.

[@JTDyer21]

I'm still baffled why anyone would live in California. I mean you know most of your salary will be taken away in taxes for the social programs. That's not even including property tax and the cost of housing. So what's the point when you know you'll live broke? It makes no sense.

[@gidzmobug2323]

Some of us were born here and vote against the present government every time.

[@ATD909]

That’s mainly in the large metropolitan cities. There’s more to California than San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego

[@ND559]

To get into most the teacher preparation programs for multiple subjects (K-8), California requires a student with a bachelor to pass 2 tests: CBEST ($99) and Multiple-Subject CSETs (3 subtests, $99 each) which began in 2003. In short, it costs a student with a bachelor degree $400 (if they they pass), and 3-month of studying just to enter the preparation program. They need to eliminate most of these tests! These tests are discouraging barriers and unnecessary. They are created to make these testing companies rich!. In my opinion, these tests do not justify "good" teachers. I personally would not need a teacher with high IQ or high scores on tests. I would rather have a teacher who would accept me and motivate me.

[@ISUringman1974]

Add to those costs, -- at least $2300 -- the costs of application for CA credential, costs of fingerprinting, and costs of obtaining ELA (English Learner, which is required by many, if not most schools).

[@javiervazquez24]

The solution is have buildings or the government to build affordable housing for teachers only. If a building refuse to house a teacher they should be held accountable lawfully. Teacher is a very important profession in this world. And also pay them better.

[@jglobetrotter2830]

Teachers are normal people with lives and families. They don't want to be housed in dorms.

[@PSL09]

@@jglobetrotter2830 works in places like the american indian reservations

[@hotice8885]

@@PSL09 --From the talks I have had with the Indians on reservations, that is not such an attractive (or effective) option.

[@PSL09]

@@hotice8885 from talks I've had with teachers, it's not ideal, but it works...also housing for the teachers attracts some native Americans on the reservations to go into teaching so

[@TruthSayer2007]

Paul Lo - myself and members of my immediate family is in fact school teachers. I’ll tell you first hand that the very last thing teachers want is government housing. Have you seen how poorly they do this with our military?? Can you imagine if some crazy person decided they hated teachers and decided to attack a housing community of teachers? We wouldn’t have the same security as a military base either. No, no teachers would rather have a descent pay and parents who are positively involved in their children’s education.

[@johnneyalford4261]

There is only one reason for teacher shortage. The teacher's union steals money from teachers.

[@waverly2468]

Go ahead and put our society at risk. I'm okay with that. Calif. has $500 billion unfunded pension liabilities. Illinois just lost $48 billion from unfunded OPEB's. Things can't get any worse than that.

[@organicmamajones2743]

The kids look so not interested

[@katew.176]

Unless they are clicking and swiping, they're bored. This has got to be the most boring group of students to come through the classroom for generations. But we as a society are to blame for shoving devices in their faces from the time they're babies.

[@doesntmatter2505]

They need a screen at all times. I blame the parents.

[@ATD909]

Education starts at home

[@ratherbfishing455]

Parents have raised their children to be apathetic.

[@miltonchavez1262]

I left California after completing my MA and California Teaching Credential in 2007. My experience as a CSUS staff member and public school teacher made me realize that I was not trained to be a teacher but rather a tool for the indoctrination of youth to a social Marxist agenda. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZ21eoV_hcyGZ6s I saw California as a whole going down the tubes and foresaw the many problems that bad Democratic leadership has caused and is causing. I love living in the Midwest and not being in the state/federal dictated/controlled classroom. I earn just as much as a security professional as I would as an teacher and I can afford to live in the Midwest. California is not affordable on a teacher's salary and middle aged teachers are not wanted. They don't tell you that in college. I saw first hand how older tenured teachers were forced out of the classroom to be replaced with younger nontenured easily intimidated teachers. I have been a security professional for 13 years now and a bassist since 2014. Do not miss teaching at all!

[@lesliemcclinton7844]

How can they afford to live there. Principals treat teachers like shit and hire young brand new teachers. I couldn't get a teaching job on California ten years ago. I get job offers from many distant states. I taught science and was treated like crap by Mexican parents.

[@lesliemcclinton7844]

Middle school discipline should be stricter because by fourth grade black kids are already out of control. So middle school is horrible.

[@joeycottone7755]

It's bad in elementary school too

[@queenmadhatter5020]

Right, wait are they the ones shooting the schools up?

[@ahmedaldhahir1503]

Hello dear I’m researcher from Iraq can you help me to get the book of science for ninth class in USA .... please

[@michaelalverson7021]

they dont care thats the problem the kids i mean

[@Ferreal92]

If a college degree can be earned online then so can a HS diploma. Take understaffed, dangerous, and/or underperforming schools and put them online.

[@MrWakeupUSA]

Yeah right! try getting your adolescent brat to log in faithfully for 6hrs/day! Youre delusional!

[@coomdoon]

That's a great idea if you want to destroy society

[@SUGARMILLMINECRAFT]

A quarter-century sounds alot more than 25 years

[@youshouldseethis.6678]

Vote for Kevin Paffrath for California Governor......

[@ISUringman1974]

I listened to Kevin and read some of his ideas -- mostly not democratic views, but I don't believe 99% of what people say when they are running for office. I have voted for a few democrats in the past, but in current day...no way will I vote for a democrat.

[@jakjohnson7733]

Anutha brylyant mynd runed bi tha publk edjukashun sistum.

[@chantz2400]

I thought this was that taglog shit for a second.

[@katew.176]

@@chantz2400 same lol!

[@marieah1960]

Mexi-fornia .....I wonder what happened.

[@jcast39atmsn]

When you lambast education, yet fail to realize that labeling a historically hispanic state as Mexi-fornia makes you look like an idiot.

[@joeycottone7755]

@@jcast39atmsn historical Hispanic state? Are you admitting that Hispanics stole the land from the native Americans? Cuz they did. Besides illegal aliens are not the same as the people who were there when it became a state in the US.

[@jcast39atmsn]

@@joeycottone7755 1) Commenting on the name dumbass, which is hispanic in origin. 2) hispanics are a mixture of spanish and natives 3) Complaining about a hispanic presence is like complaining about the native presence, idiotic. You want a white state, go back to Europe and form one.

[@katew.176]

@@jcast39atmsn no Hispanics are Hispanics. Mestizos are a mixture of Hispanic and NA in this case. But no one wants to call it what it is. Ethnicity is Hispanic and they tick two boxes, typically. Caucasian and Native. Edit: The aforementioned being race and Hispanic relating to origin of Spain.

[@fahs]

@@jcast39atmsn The term "Hispanic" comes from "Espana," "Espana" is the Spanish name for Spain. Hispanic does not automatically refer to people that are mestizos. There are plenty of Hispanic creoles. There is not a single Mesoamerican tribe that settled in California. Saying that Mesoamerican Indians are the same thing as the Chumash, Shashone, or any other Indian groups native to California is ridiculous. Native Americans are not monolithic, and to assert otherwise is racist. The irony of you calling someone a dumbass is hilarious.