Inside Microsoft Flight Simulator - Xbox Ports, Performance, PC Optimisations - The Asobo Breakdown!

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One of the most demanding PC games ever hasn't just been ported to Xbox Series consoles - it's also received massive improvements and optimisation on PC too. In another DF Developer interview, Alex Battaglia talks to Flight Simulator's technical director, Lionel Fuentes from Asobo Studio to learn more.
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@FortressArena
@FortressArena 3 жыл бұрын
"This is getting a bit technical." "Its ok, this is Digital Foundry."
@SkeleCrafteronYT
@SkeleCrafteronYT 3 жыл бұрын
And that's why we love Digital Foundry, doesn't shy away from the real details.
@ormancadam6453
@ormancadam6453 3 жыл бұрын
I dont totally understand it all. but I like what I hear.
@nikhilpai9034
@nikhilpai9034 3 жыл бұрын
The transparency and openness of the conversation is blowing my mind just as much as the experience of flying over my own house for the first time! Thanks, Asobo and DF!
@salemsaleh9577
@salemsaleh9577 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could see my house but the game uses Bing Maps :(
@GameChronicles
@GameChronicles 3 жыл бұрын
My house isn’t even on Xbox but clear as day on PC. Unimpressed with console port.
@RogueAgentX
@RogueAgentX 3 жыл бұрын
@@GameChronicles make sure the settings are correct. Bing maps and/or photogrammetry might not be on by default on Xbox.
@nikhilpai9034
@nikhilpai9034 3 жыл бұрын
I know many of us probably won't get to see our house but the fact that we can even try is still a pretty astonishing feat. Turning on Photogrammetry and streaming online data might help though!
@kevinj4243
@kevinj4243 3 жыл бұрын
Downgrades and false advertising are okay as long as you eventually tell us you did it! THANK YOU ASOBO TAKE MORE OF MY MONEY!
@jfieqj
@jfieqj 3 жыл бұрын
Really love how candid Lionel is being here. Not often you hear a technical director speak openly about legacy baggage in a codebase. "The objective before optimizing was to make it work at all"... I feel that. The fact that the glass cockpits are web views is fascinating, but makes a ton of sense.
@rickysargulesh1053
@rickysargulesh1053 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate his honesty here. That heightens my respect for Asobo even more. It's just a beautiful experience and it's nice to see that they still optimize it.
@elche8461
@elche8461 3 жыл бұрын
He was actually talking about consoles with that sentence and where did you hear they re still optimizing ut
@SteelSkin667
@SteelSkin667 3 жыл бұрын
It is particularly refreshing compared to the id Software interviews where they were sometimes trying to avoid specifics, probably for that very reason.
@maynardburger
@maynardburger 3 жыл бұрын
@@elche8461 MFS is a long term service title. Games-as-a-service long before it became the norm nowadays. It's in their best interest to keep improving it, and of course they've got a load of talented programmers sitting around, you kinda need to ensure they have work to do.
@SmarterThanAll
@SmarterThanAll 3 жыл бұрын
@@maynardburger "game" might be a little much it's a hardcore flight sim so the service model always made since
@X_Leonhart
@X_Leonhart 3 жыл бұрын
Just played A Plague Tale Innocence, and now that I’m enjoying Flight Simulator I really think Asobo is one of the most amazing studios of this generation.
@pixeljauntvr7774
@pixeljauntvr7774 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah these guys a incredibly talented.
@MG-fb2fr
@MG-fb2fr 3 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@CaramelisedNipples
@CaramelisedNipples 3 жыл бұрын
Plague tale was an amazing game. So well made and just the right length.
@rinkumultani6515
@rinkumultani6515 3 жыл бұрын
you playing on pc with vr? what gpu and vr headset you have`?
@sergeleon1163
@sergeleon1163 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's a technical feat that they managed to combine the engine that they had with Bing, Azure and old Flightsim code this well. I think in the process they learned a great deal and we will see some of that come towards future titles of them starting with a Plague Tale Requiem
@Ratt1eHead
@Ratt1eHead 3 жыл бұрын
Here's what really blows me away. This is the same studio that created the excellent A Plague Tale!! Fantastic studio!
@theoathman8188
@theoathman8188 3 жыл бұрын
Not to take anything from the team, but he said they built upon the previous flight sim code base and the world map technology was provided by Microsoft.
@-1nterruption-960
@-1nterruption-960 3 жыл бұрын
If only Microsoft could acquire them
@WayStedYou
@WayStedYou 3 жыл бұрын
@@theoathman8188 almost as if they were porting the game
@kiisseli1337
@kiisseli1337 3 жыл бұрын
Plague Tale was very average game
@proxywolf2006
@proxywolf2006 3 жыл бұрын
@@kiisseli1337 ah, so what your telling me is....its a game, got it
@leoz96
@leoz96 3 жыл бұрын
Loving these developer interviews
@PPN462
@PPN462 3 жыл бұрын
This whole interview 😂 Alex: wow it is incredible, how did you optimize this? Lionel: I am just glad that it works at all
@MrAlex0803
@MrAlex0803 3 жыл бұрын
Love the vid, this dev knows his shit, very very impressed. Not as usually when they send the marketing guys and they only answer with buzz phrases.
@viktorianas
@viktorianas 3 жыл бұрын
We implemented this revolutionary technology based on years of research and development, user experience is our top priority and we took no shortcuts, nor compromises, our simulation is a cutting edge state of the art piece of software utilizing the sheer power of our proprietary in-house cloud based computation!
@tranquilitybase8100
@tranquilitybase8100 3 жыл бұрын
"Yes... errr.... our game isn't really a game, it's an experience that happens in a metaverse and is supported by the blockchain." 2021 Marketing guy.
@e2rqey
@e2rqey 3 жыл бұрын
Asobo studios level of openness, transparency and communication with their community should be what other developers aspire to do. Comparing Asobo studios to Frontier Development or Blizzard is like Night and Day.
@mememachine5244
@mememachine5244 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, like them telling us how the sim was gonna be ruined to allow it to be ran on xboxs :D
@AaronLaye
@AaronLaye 3 жыл бұрын
DF absolutely killing it with the recent MSFS content - keep it coming!
@ODIOPOWER
@ODIOPOWER 3 жыл бұрын
DF absolutely killing it with the recent content - keep it coming! Here, i fixed it for you
@Superdelphinus
@Superdelphinus 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they were a bit slow understanding how revolutionary this game is at the beginning from a technical perspective, but they’re making up for it with bells on now.
@SkeleCrafteronYT
@SkeleCrafteronYT 3 жыл бұрын
I love this guy's enthusiasm, such a great feeling
@ChilesSupportTV
@ChilesSupportTV 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a flight simmer but I've been having a blast on MSFS.
@tinobrown1780
@tinobrown1780 3 жыл бұрын
The good thing is, you don’t have to be a flight sim enthusiast to enjoy watching the beautiful world recreated from a birds eye view.
@kofodsen
@kofodsen 3 жыл бұрын
Then you are a flight simmer 💪
@JJ-fk5ys
@JJ-fk5ys 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you are LoL
@JJ-fk5ys
@JJ-fk5ys 3 жыл бұрын
If you're having a blast that means you like Sims LoL
@leonfrancis3418
@leonfrancis3418 3 жыл бұрын
Same. Some hiccups in the tutorial, but man. Nothing feels better than flying. I think I'm gonna look into learning it in real life.
@mercuriete
@mercuriete 3 жыл бұрын
best video ever. I like more technical interviews like this in the future.
@czbrat
@czbrat 3 жыл бұрын
As a PC gamer, this is the reason why I'm thankful consoles exist.
@VariantAEC
@VariantAEC 3 жыл бұрын
No kidding. Even so they haven't done the user interface any justice unfortunately. Opting to click in the stick to bring up a cursor is kind of a problem. I can't remember off hand what I assigned to the right stick but my left stick controls the landing gear. I probably assigned resetting the camera to the right stick... Regardless you weren't previously able to control the UI using the controller alone it required the use of both the mouse and keyboard. The latest update I have played (I think update 6 Nordic World Update if this isn't the latest) did break a lot of keyboard and controller bindings. Reapplying them doesn't fix the issue even after restarting the game and dis/connecting any HID peripheral causes the game to soft lock as did changing the controller layout in some cases. This game is still a mess in the last update and again I'm not even sure was on the version they're discussing here when I played last. I guess I will be checking that out very soon.
@mememachine5244
@mememachine5244 3 жыл бұрын
What, so the sim can be ruined? It was miles better before su5.
@Battleneter
@Battleneter 3 жыл бұрын
Well this is one of the few games I play where a controller makes sense over a KB and mouse, well better in combination with a KB. Its good to see this title on console, really feel console gaming needs to expand on the types of games available if they are to compete against PC long term.
@harrybosch4595
@harrybosch4595 3 жыл бұрын
Did you view the same video as I did? Look at the segment that starts around 8:00. Do you really think that your PC benefits from using less then 6GB system RAM (usually 16 GB available) and also using less from the available Video Ram. They use more compression, cull more data and dropped some graphics card features (see segment about trees) to make it run better on console. The result is that a lot less of the extra available power of your PC is used, this is noticeable in the picture quality we now get. The only benefit is if you are the type of user that want to fly @ 60 fps or higher at the costs of reduced visuals.
@mememachine5244
@mememachine5244 3 жыл бұрын
@@harrybosch4595 Sims dead, theyve played their cards. Going back to xplane and p3d.
@brewski535
@brewski535 3 жыл бұрын
I've been really enjoying my time on XSX, Asobo have done an excellent job here! 👏
@Thedohdoh
@Thedohdoh 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for destroying the Pc version. Bad blurry ground quality, blurry and pixelated clouds and drawing distance turned to much down. Well done Asobo 🤦🏻‍♂️
@Beavernator
@Beavernator 3 жыл бұрын
It seems the Series S is making developers think outside the box on ways to optimize their coding, which in turn is creating MASSIVE gains for Series X and PC's... Same thing with Switch with some of its "Impossible Ports"... This is a good thing... For too long developers have to just been using brute force to push past sloppy coding... Glad that optimization is making a comeback...
@VariantAEC
@VariantAEC 3 жыл бұрын
True of any console.
@Nct104
@Nct104 3 жыл бұрын
it’s going to be the case of balancing. Is the hardware and the platform at the middle point for the developer to optimise better for both.
@LonghornsLegend
@LonghornsLegend 3 жыл бұрын
And some people tried to make the argument the Series S was going to hold the generation back
@VariantAEC
@VariantAEC 3 жыл бұрын
@@LonghornsLegend Well I guess you forgot this is a last generation game that everyone already realized was very poorly optimized. After optimization it runs well on consoles but visually speaking *this game was never particularly taxing.*
@FortressArena
@FortressArena 3 жыл бұрын
@@LonghornsLegend I think some people forget that the CPU in Series S is almost as fast as Series X, and a little faster then the one in PS5. In CPU terms its not holding anything back. Great work by Asobo.
@callumdointhings5
@callumdointhings5 3 жыл бұрын
Bahaha this guy was great. Id imagine knowing that you're working for Microsoft might make this situation pretty stressful for him but he killed it. I cancelled GamePass but I think I'm gonna pick this up on Steam ❤
@Haywood-Jablomie
@Haywood-Jablomie 3 жыл бұрын
You can often buy GamePass 7 day keys for 75 cents and just stack a whole bunch of them
@Scotland_Above
@Scotland_Above 3 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a 'Love' button to click on this video. Asobo have done an incredible job along with Microsoft to bring us experiences that most of us couldn't have dreamed of before. I trained with the RAF when I was younger. This let's me relive the past in an emotional way. This isn't just a 'game'.
@Scotland_Above
@Scotland_Above 3 жыл бұрын
I just flew A successful complete circuit from Dundee (where I trained) in MSFS 2020. At least this time I didn't get intercepted by two F111s and escorted out of the Leuchars military airspace like I did in real life! 🤣
@EverSnaxolotl
@EverSnaxolotl 3 жыл бұрын
Wait til you hear about the thumbs up
@Harlec
@Harlec 3 жыл бұрын
I understood like a quarter of what they are talking but I enjoyed it anyways.
@SuperSublime9
@SuperSublime9 3 жыл бұрын
Same here lol
@Skeames1214
@Skeames1214 3 жыл бұрын
always the case with df for me lol. their analysis matches with what my untrained eye sees, i love the breakdowns.
@andreajesuspirlo
@andreajesuspirlo 3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to mapping sizes Asobo studios are way ahead. 12 years back they also developed a beautiful and underappreciated post-apocalyptic racing game called fuel which at that time held the world record for having the largest playable map in a console game.
@SamsonFRYT
@SamsonFRYT 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve played FUEL a lot. I knew then that asobo were meant for great things.
@simulacrae
@simulacrae 3 жыл бұрын
You do know that flight sims have had maps of the entire world for decades right?
@karannsyt
@karannsyt 3 жыл бұрын
He has so much charisma and knowledge, as a computer science student, he is everything I ever want to be
@karannsyt
@karannsyt 3 жыл бұрын
@you- tube the dev, but Alex is not too bad as well he's amazing too
@rlfernandes9538
@rlfernandes9538 3 жыл бұрын
I'll say it again: Digital Foundry is uniquely changing the way this industry works.
@DudeMcDuderson
@DudeMcDuderson 3 жыл бұрын
Love vids like this. I hope we get more where a developer doesn't shy away from being technical. I know some of it isn't that accessible if people don't know about how software works, but to us software devs this stuff is super interesting! Keep it coming!
@tinyentropy
@tinyentropy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to those extremely talented devs for making this possible on the Xbox consoles!!!!
@stealthninja4299
@stealthninja4299 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite next gen game so far. They've done an awesome job on console
@alexg350
@alexg350 3 жыл бұрын
High credit to this developer and rest of his team. I just think they pushed the break too much for PC. Our machines not need such a downgrade. I hope the next update give us back the absolute beauty we had, without popping. Anyway, they try their best, but please don't let computers be affected by the lower level that consoles have. 🤓
@robertmcmahon4549
@robertmcmahon4549 3 жыл бұрын
Im sure they will fix this,they had a timescale to get the consoles ready
@swavezmartin
@swavezmartin 3 жыл бұрын
This game is so dope I am blown away I am loving this on the series x
@Akashmash
@Akashmash 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys!
@ErenTheWarcriminal
@ErenTheWarcriminal 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@雪鷹魚英語培訓的領航
@雪鷹魚英語培訓的領航 3 жыл бұрын
Digital Foundry. You guys are having a very positive impact on the consumer and developer communities. Love hearing the nitty gritty details. I can listen to John Carmack talk way out of my league but still follow along enough to learn something.
@timsmith5980
@timsmith5980 3 жыл бұрын
@Digital Foundry What is your take on the huge controversy going on in the Flightsim community regarding supposed downgrading of PC graphics, clouds, cockpit textures etc to unify code with Xbox release? Have you noticed this on your PCs?
@tronicmuse
@tronicmuse 3 жыл бұрын
The plan is to eventually enable pcs to have quality setting sliders that go beyond the Xbox versions. But it has to WORK first. Like Lionel said many times. Then they can iterate and fine tune it further.
@akashgeorge2688
@akashgeorge2688 3 жыл бұрын
asobo downgraded the graphics on PC...............thats how its optimised
@FranklinLive
@FranklinLive 3 жыл бұрын
I spent loads setting up a sim rig just for this game and even got my PC guy to track down a 3090... now I can go play it on my xbox and it looks just the same lol. The PC version is literally a console version now. Just unreal the downgrade this game took for the PC boys. There is no "PC optimization", It's a PC downgrade. The game used to look Amazing on PC.
@briengakaplan-b1550
@briengakaplan-b1550 3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable game. Can't even call it a game it's really an experience. I'm seriously considering getting my pilots license because of this game.
@RayOid
@RayOid 3 жыл бұрын
If any studio Microsoft needs to aquire, that is Asobo Studios. Noone should come first.
@stubbietubbie
@stubbietubbie 3 жыл бұрын
Two nerds nerding out. Love it.
@simulacrae
@simulacrae 3 жыл бұрын
Of course not a word on how broken the sim is on PC. Pop in is insane, the clouds look worse. Some Xbox features were even turned on on the PC version like that crappy switch selection stuff. At the same time you can't fly airliners because the live weather is bugged. Several devs have pulled projects.
@ganntradingsystemstimecycl2783
@ganntradingsystemstimecycl2783 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it full of shit interview. This clearly states to me Asobo along Microsoft only care about Xbox..
@DSS553
@DSS553 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that it crashes to desktop constantly for many players. Even after the hotfix, which didn't fix anything.
@Gamerzguy2468
@Gamerzguy2468 3 жыл бұрын
Game got downgraded.
@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha
@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing job Asobo! Played it since day 1 on PC and been playing it this week on Series X, I am blown away. Amazing the Series S runs it so well to. Such a fun relaxing game
@D3ATH-W15H
@D3ATH-W15H 3 жыл бұрын
On PC new update as downgraded visuals at high altitude to low resolution textures & pop in at distance from cities like new york.
@ur_round_next1216
@ur_round_next1216 3 жыл бұрын
Why do us PC simmers have to have a downgrade for console players ITS A JOKE
@romanbellic810
@romanbellic810 3 жыл бұрын
TLDR: It's all thanks to Blast Processing technology.
@nonyabusiness6084
@nonyabusiness6084 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a "boomer" so I get this joke. lol
@Remix916
@Remix916 3 жыл бұрын
SEEEGGGGGAAAAA!!!!
@BzaafiedTheFerocious
@BzaafiedTheFerocious 3 жыл бұрын
I eagerly await the Tails Tornado 2 DLC.
@sivadepilif
@sivadepilif 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial of how to downgrade a game.
@humvee3d
@humvee3d 3 жыл бұрын
Asobo, you have done incredible work. Thank You! With love from Siberia 0/
@bomalpatriote5536
@bomalpatriote5536 3 жыл бұрын
🇫🇷 ASOBO 🇫🇷 Devs did a fantastic job!!!
@AceCmbatguy25
@AceCmbatguy25 3 жыл бұрын
De ouf les boss vraiment
@bomalpatriote5536
@bomalpatriote5536 3 жыл бұрын
@@AceCmbatguy25 et aussi le studio Français de Montpellier qui va sortir le jeu STRAY en exclu sur PC, PS5 & PS4 🇫🇷 Les Développeurs Français sont au top 👍
@grooners5333
@grooners5333 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but the PC version is a disappointment - its still impossible to get 4K/60 Ultra with a top Ampere GPU. At sensible resolutions the game is GPU limited so these CPU optimsations wont help framerate. Reducing RAM reqts when we have 32GB is also not helping - I can see close in buildings changing randomly when I play and even in the videos - whether its texture or lighting I dont know but its very distracting.
@雪鷹魚英語培訓的領航
@雪鷹魚英語培訓的領航 3 жыл бұрын
6:21 "Caches are a bit of the secret formula to avoid re-doing things."
@PurushNahiMahaPurush
@PurushNahiMahaPurush 3 жыл бұрын
Lol this is so true. Several times, I've just calculated things once and dumped them into the memory so that I could save frame time by not redoing those things again. If you are not bottlenecked by system memory, this is a great option. But I would not use this approach in embedded systems where system memory is precious.
@halofreak1990
@halofreak1990 3 жыл бұрын
@@PurushNahiMahaPurush if you can deal with latency, a disk-based cache is also an option. It's how a lot of OG Xbox games worked
@kovalveli
@kovalveli 3 жыл бұрын
Still can't get my hand on Xbox series X 🤣
@1970cgb
@1970cgb 3 жыл бұрын
Pity they messed up the PC version with latest update and then with the hot fix that was supposed to rectify update 5 issues .Also confirmed by their community manager .
@GuillinCorp
@GuillinCorp 3 жыл бұрын
The performance gains are sick, had no idea they updated it like that
@JerryFlowersIII
@JerryFlowersIII 3 жыл бұрын
PS5 doesn't have Mesh shaders or VRS? Those both seem really big to me. Once those catch on I think Xbox will have a clear performance advantage, that plus the extra GPU power. If PS5 has something that would tip the scale in there favor I'd love to hear about it. They've got better data streaming and tempest but Xboxs hardware has things like that too.
@Ryan-yi5ro
@Ryan-yi5ro 3 жыл бұрын
They have lawsuits over the garbage controllers and.....guess that's it. 🤦
@drivetounderstand8579
@drivetounderstand8579 3 жыл бұрын
Lionel, if you’ve been at Asobo long enough to have worked on Fuel, thank you very much. To this day I don’t believe there’s a more engaging sandbox for physics and geography. The campaign was very rewarding but I’ve probably spent five times as much time just playing around in that world you created. Many thanks.
@ICEMANZIDANE
@ICEMANZIDANE 3 жыл бұрын
LoL... You should know that there is no wind simulation (in a flight sim😅) in this game. You are assuming stuff which are not in the game. Quality review i have to say
@symol30872
@symol30872 3 жыл бұрын
MSFS is a technical marvel. >2500 hours now with this since it launched and have learned a great deal about flying all sorts of plans including real life procedures and flying with online ATC. Asobo are wizards. Love seeing these technical dev interviews that the DF team does, keep them coming 😊
@emissary23
@emissary23 3 жыл бұрын
And another game or should it this case I write simulator was ruined to be able to run on patato consoles...
@thegoodsherman
@thegoodsherman 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Game has looked better before the Update on my High end pc on Ultra.. downgrade for the consoles 🤔
@mememachine5244
@mememachine5244 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, all these console idiots licking Asobos boots is too much. The sim was ruined soi their bad hardware can run it.
@StarrkTheWolf
@StarrkTheWolf 3 жыл бұрын
@@mememachine5244 the current gen machines are amazing for consoles, they are in no means bad. If you compare to 30 series card they certainly are behind but those cards cost more individually than a whole console at normal price. My series x is replacing my current pc for now for single player games.
@mememachine5244
@mememachine5244 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarrkTheWolf Tahts great and all, but the xbox series x isnt strong enough to run MSFS at good settings (hence the massive downgrade)
@StarrkTheWolf
@StarrkTheWolf 3 жыл бұрын
@@mememachine5244 a lot of pc’s aren’t, my ryzen 7 2700 and 2060 super struggles on higher settings. The fact that it’s running on consoles is impressive even with some downgrades. A lot of people without pc’s can get to experience it even if it is not the best way to play and that’s always a positive in my books.
@mememachine5244
@mememachine5244 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarrkTheWolf Okay, thats fine. Downgrade for consoles sure, but DONT downgrade ultra for PCs...
@paksitgyud9162
@paksitgyud9162 3 жыл бұрын
ASOBO just murdered SONY studious!!!! Another David vs Goliath story..
@-1nterruption-960
@-1nterruption-960 3 жыл бұрын
Most demanding game so far this gen
@IamMarkSmith
@IamMarkSmith 3 жыл бұрын
This interview was like a good game of chess between two strangers. My favorite point wa what Lionel was like “man you guys did your analysis.” 😂 that speaks volumes for what you all do @DigitalFoundry. Thank you for this.
@TheFirstRealChewy
@TheFirstRealChewy 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what other improvements they will make. I wonder how it would turn out if they were to build the next version from the ground up. I guess we'll find out in 2030 perhaps.
@WbosonLP
@WbosonLP 3 жыл бұрын
Those are exactly the 2 big questions not asked and would like to know also.
@robertmcmahon4549
@robertmcmahon4549 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they dont need to make another one,just keep improving this one
@Beaut_Beau
@Beaut_Beau 3 жыл бұрын
This was really fascinating, and Lionel from Asobo was a great and generous guest sharing all that information!
@Mr0nice0guy
@Mr0nice0guy 3 жыл бұрын
I love coffee
@TheClumsyGeekGaming
@TheClumsyGeekGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Huge congratulations to Asobo for this incredible accomplishment of releasing on the Xbox. I barely understood the technical discussions but I got an understanding of how complex it all is. This update comes at a huge price for high-end PC users, unfortunately, but I'm confident now that Xbox version is out, Asobo will turn back its focus into bringing back the image fidelity it lost in the form of additional graphics options for PC users.
@mickos_
@mickos_ 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. Excellent video. Flight simulator on the series x is simply beautiful. I can’t stop playing it.
@SteelSkin667
@SteelSkin667 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who genuinely thinks that web technology is the superior solution for creating UIs, I really like their approach, but it definitely comes with some big challenges when it comes to performance. Javascript is basically single-threaded, memory leaks are really easy to create, and garbage collection does use a lot of resources. What's worse is that typically games consoles typically disallow JIT compilation for games due to security concerns. The CPU time used to update and render those glass cockpits must be insane.
@logicalfundy
@logicalfundy 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think a vector graphics library would've been a better fit. If interactivity is really needed, maybe combine it with a high performance scripting language like LUA. A full web stack is pretty heavy weight. There's really no going back on a released game, though. At least they split it off into its own thread now, which should make it a bit less consequential to the overall framerate.
@countduckula6549
@countduckula6549 3 жыл бұрын
i have a qestion how did they mess up the weather again
@jimechols4347
@jimechols4347 3 жыл бұрын
Yes... flight simulators and driving games are great test beds for new GPU and CPU designs since it will reveal weaknesses in the architecture and help engineers design better products.
@Harrysound
@Harrysound 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a series s on Tuesday for this despite never owning two consoles at one time in my 40 year life and having a PS5, because those guys made it happen and made it happen in a way that is simply ,technically stunning. 120hz mode is INCREDIBLE. I want it on every game
@JaimeIsJaime
@JaimeIsJaime 3 жыл бұрын
really wish microsoft had put 16GB instead of 10 on the series S. It would have been a game changer for developers
@elm4nsuri
@elm4nsuri 3 жыл бұрын
Lionel sounds like such a cool dude! wishing him gd luck on all his future projects.
@benjaminh1034
@benjaminh1034 3 жыл бұрын
While I’m impressed by the improvements, it’s pretty obvious that the pc version was downgraded in order to achieve graphical parity with Xbox.
@stephkera9976
@stephkera9976 3 жыл бұрын
"im proud that we made it work" he says while the PC community suffers from CTDs and freezes. See official forums. Majority is not happy with SU5. It's an obvious graphical downgrade besides "optimization" and they shrinked that beautiful game into the console and overwhelmed PC users with console-like interface interaction. This is going in the wrong direction.
@mechkg
@mechkg 3 жыл бұрын
-- What are you particularly proud of having achieved in this update? -- I am particularly proud of the fact that it works! Brilliant xD
@chrismyco7950
@chrismyco7950 3 жыл бұрын
is it optimization if all you do is downgrade the graphics. it reminds of what happened when they optimized Crysis by tuning down the graphics.
@-aexc-
@-aexc- 3 жыл бұрын
the only thing xbox is missing imo, is a gyro in the controller for better aiming and a proper offline way to set up the console
@METALFACEDOOMXXXX
@METALFACEDOOMXXXX 3 жыл бұрын
And playstation 5 is missing quick resume smart delivery games for the holidays! List goes on. Nobody cares about that gimmicky bullshit in the dull sense 5
@pixeljauntvr7774
@pixeljauntvr7774 3 жыл бұрын
@@METALFACEDOOMXXXX Funny how Xbox fan girls are trying to flip the script on "no games" after having no first party titles for the first 9 months of the Series X launch. You got one now and you suddenly think you're king of the hill 😂😂😂😂
@METALFACEDOOMXXXX
@METALFACEDOOMXXXX 3 жыл бұрын
@@pixeljauntvr7774 but it's true playstation 5 has no games we eating good over here and going to eating better this holiday! But hey you have stray cats to look forward to in 2022 if it even comes out lmfaoo
@-aexc-
@-aexc- 3 жыл бұрын
@@METALFACEDOOMXXXX I don't care about the other gimmicks in the ds5, gyro is not a gimmick and is genuinely super helpful for camera controls. After moving to PC for a bit it's the only way I can use a controller when I need to control the camera
@METALFACEDOOMXXXX
@METALFACEDOOMXXXX 3 жыл бұрын
@@-aexc- And do you even own a nextgen console?😆
@jasonpattison1955
@jasonpattison1955 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you both for such an incredible interview 💕. It's so invigorating and refreshing to see a developer to be honest and open and so very proud of their work. I'm going to buy the game even though it on XBox game pass.
@britfrog
@britfrog 3 жыл бұрын
the guys at asobo have allowed themselves to dumb down the sim to work in xbox which has destroyed the sim for pc users
@ganntradingsystemstimecycl2783
@ganntradingsystemstimecycl2783 3 жыл бұрын
Your the only comment speaks truth clearly all other comments xbox users.. This guy is full of shit. The guy asking questions licking his arse. SU5 been a joke all issues pc users having. Not to mention poor blurry LOD high altitude..
@lewkbrett
@lewkbrett 3 жыл бұрын
Such an amazing interview. I wish more developers would do technical interviews like this.
@AceCmbatguy25
@AceCmbatguy25 3 жыл бұрын
Flight Simulator and A Plague Tale are both incredible gems 💙
@danielpena-un8vl
@danielpena-un8vl 3 жыл бұрын
one question for leonel would be... why do you guys keep fucking up the PC version?
@namakudamono
@namakudamono 3 жыл бұрын
Fascination interview! Many thanks, Alex - keep up the great work!
@OFFICIALARTMUSIC
@OFFICIALARTMUSIC 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely crazy combining of web dev and game dev. This type of stuff is really exciting to learn about, especially if you have any interest in programming
@rodrigopinchiari4027
@rodrigopinchiari4027 3 жыл бұрын
Digital Foundry bringing us another GREAT technical review as always. Asobo, THANK YOU!!!
@robertdunlop5247
@robertdunlop5247 3 жыл бұрын
I've gone bald over the years and last year did I fully accept it but I am glad that I did. Shave that heed mate.
@montygill2835
@montygill2835 3 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@PP-rl5sn
@PP-rl5sn 3 жыл бұрын
Toooo much of things popping up since latest update, they need to fix this
@whothou9154
@whothou9154 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO the dev was hilarious 🤣 So many skeletons in the closet when developing games.. Dude made his voice real low and averted his eyes everytime he didn't really want to talk about a particular thing 😆
@subjectivereviews
@subjectivereviews 3 жыл бұрын
True I saw guy is hiding some💩
@lyingpancake95
@lyingpancake95 3 жыл бұрын
I read that title as Ms. Flight Simulator.
@davidvultaggio7209
@davidvultaggio7209 3 жыл бұрын
I would be really interested to hear from the dev about the roaring reports since U5 about the "optimization" on PC that turned out to be a massive downgrade of the graphics. Even on ULTRA setting. Which Lionel here at few moment refer too (aka texture downgrade, LODS downgrade etc ... )
@fcukugimmeausername
@fcukugimmeausername 3 жыл бұрын
At this point, I think we can award Xbox as winner of the first year of the 9th Generation.
@selnor1983
@selnor1983 3 жыл бұрын
Playground Games and Asobo Studios are in a class of their own in terms or presentation and visuals at the moment. Both studios have smashed it out of the park and showed the rest of the industry what Next gen visuals are. Amazing work Asobo. Amazing work.
3 жыл бұрын
the Asobo Studio people are so humble and talented, I wish them the best :)
@Silveraga
@Silveraga 3 жыл бұрын
More technical interview hell yeah
@angelopanzera3946
@angelopanzera3946 3 жыл бұрын
This was great to watch! I love how open Lionel was with his responses, really speaks volumes about the studio to let the technical director who knows his shit to do this interview rather than some marketing idiot.... By the way you don't need to be self conscious about getting too technical, we love it! Even if most of the people watching may not fully understand it's just inspiring to see someone so passionate about thier craft sharing thier methodology and opinions! And as always DF you're nailing it with the content 🙌
@xKyleNxCoD
@xKyleNxCoD 3 ай бұрын
I think this game (or sim) is the most technically impressive thing to have come out in the gaming (or sim) scene.
@mbsfaridi
@mbsfaridi 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. Lionel was hilarious and explained things well, also the Turok guy bits was a nice addition.
@j3gm0194
@j3gm0194 3 жыл бұрын
SU5 does not help at all when you pop out G1000 as a professional user. The FPS drop is severe making the sim unflyable. This is a terrible issue and is totally contradicting Working Titles efforts. It is so sad having to find out after every update that X-Plane and P3D are still the only flyable simulators for serious simmers
@bs_blackscout
@bs_blackscout 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing interview! I love when devs go into detail without being afraid of being too technical. Understanding how things work is crucial.
@D..S..
@D..S.. 3 жыл бұрын
The new update looks TERRIBLE. The game looked phenomenal on my PC before but now there are major problems: everything has this horrible pixelated look that completely ruins the experience, and terrain textures look like PS2 textures sometimes, especially the higher you fly. The anti-aliasing is also noticably worse with horrible flickering. LOD pop-in is so distracting, constantly. This used to be one of my favorite games of all time and this update completely ruined it. They straight up lied about improved performance not affecting the visuals. This sucks :(
@kahnsealable
@kahnsealable 3 жыл бұрын
Please stop lying.
@D..S..
@D..S.. 3 жыл бұрын
@@kahnsealable I'm not lying at all what the fuck. Just look at the game before and after update 5. There is a HUGE, negative difference in visual quality. The weird pixelation issue is absolutely unacceptable. The game looks NOTHING like it did before with settings maxed out. Why don't you actually play the game and look at how shitty the world looks?
@mr.blonde7812
@mr.blonde7812 3 жыл бұрын
@@D..S.. I'm on it as we speak, it looks like it always has at ultra settings.
@D..S..
@D..S.. 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.blonde7812 I wish I could figure out what's up with my game then. I'm playing on the same 4K TV, with *higher* settings at 4K, and the game looks so bad compared to a week ago.
@mr.blonde7812
@mr.blonde7812 3 жыл бұрын
@@D..S.. give me a specific area to check where you noticed it the most.
@2drealms196
@2drealms196 3 жыл бұрын
Asbestos Breakdown?!?!?
@carlomorischi3435
@carlomorischi3435 3 жыл бұрын
When is DX12 coming to PC? I'm waiting for it before buying it. I have a 2600X with RTX 3080 so for me it's fundamental
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