Inside Out Turn: Alltracks Academy

[@chrisrtill]

I cannot wait to fall on my face trying this, pretty sure it will help an issue I couldn't get rid of last time I was on the snow. Really like the Alltracks videos, more please!

[@AlltracksAcademy]

Hey Chris - This is a tricky drill to be sure. Before launching directly into the "inside out turn", have a crack at this one first kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZTGYpyMYt6Gjbs as it is a critical stepping stone. Good luck with it all, and you know what they say.....if you're not falling, you're not trying hard enough ;) Cheers, Guy.

[@jllaforce]

I tried this and although I haven't mastered it yet, it's gold.

[@chuckburkholz4350]

Really good demo and explanation! We were just talking about the "White Pass" turn last night while on the chairlift, this sure has those elements! I've experience the "old" inside ski coming off the snow at the end of a hard carve and dropping down on to the new edge "just so" at the start of the new turn with my upper body continuing to move down the hill as my skis come around beneath me, entirely on their own, like on auto pilot. This explanation really figures that out! Thanks!! This one goes into my drill tool box in a way I can demo it.

[@AlltracksAcademy]

+Chuck Burkholz - Thanks for the positive feedback.  Keep up the good work, and feel free to share our videos as much as possible as it allows us to keep pumping them out.  Thanks again Chuck!www.alltracksacademy.com

[@jamesdunn9714]

Simple expanation and good demos. I like the drill and the way you show how to progress into the complete inside/outside turn.

[@AlltracksAcademy]

Thanks James, glad you like the vid. Stay tunes for more instructional videos in the next few weeks. Happy skiing!

[@JB91710]

It's ma useless drill and will only get you hurt. "Fredrik Englund 2 years ago "Tried something like this during a session with a ski instructor. Ski got "stuck" in a turn, tore my ACL." I'm sure this guy appreciated your Kiss Up0 though!

[@CostantinoLenzi]

Great video

[@roy87345]

WOW! This is a great drill. Appear to be easier than carving with a single leg. But the drill will be more effective to achieve a high angle in carving. The form of the skier is impeccable! Thanks!

[@AlltracksAcademy]

Hey, thanks for the comment....hope it helps! We have a number of new videos scheduled for release in '17, be sure to subscribe for updates. Happy Skiing!

[@bahramsaedi9946]

Hi .Thanks for excellent ,clear tips

[@AlltracksAcademy]

+bahram saedi Thanks for the feedback, Happy skiing!www.alltracksacademy.com

[@zipperboy2008]

I taught this to my SDP kids today.

[@nielsdq]

Nice, will try this. After all these years, I'm still finding it hard to switch to the outer edge on 1 leg.

[@Jimmycrawfordski]

Great drill!!

[@AlltracksAcademy]

+Jimmy Crawford Thanks Jimmy - Great profile pic!

[@colemarc]

I believe this is the classic White Pass turn as invented by Phil and Steve Mahre in the '70s.

[@eberthiaume1945]

In the beginning your back leg and front leg formed a triangle like a delta however I have heard that you want your lower leg (shin area) should be parallel while turning...I don’t know if it is right or wrong just want to hear your thoughts

[@Rhdmsdl]

good!

[@eyesrightout]

This in fact is what we call "royal" the entrance to bodycarving and immanent part of diagonal racing technique. Stick with it longer - cut your bend only on inner ski! :)

[@JB91710]

There isn't One skier on this planet that uses this Trick to make better parallel turns. It is the Opposite of what you do.

[@proteinpowderisyummy8795]

thanks! I am going to skii, and I am 11 years old!

[@Alstracksguy]

Great to hear Jacob, happy skiing!

[@EdgyMackenzie]

and what are you doing on youtube? you shouldn't be here and your parents should have put an internet filter. also, if you are 11 get a ski teacher otherwise you'll get hurt

[@EdgyMackenzie]

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[@cliffmurphy6464]

Sorry if this is too late, but I do like this drill...but I have a question. If you consider the weight on the inside ski, from the drill it looks like at the start of the turn you are at 100%, (you are on one leg, so that has to be correct) and then both legs touch the snow, but at what point does the weight transfer to the outside ski? Going through the turn what should the pressure be on each ski...thanks!

[@AlltracksAcademy]

Hi Cliff, Thanks for your interest in this video. That is correct, at the start of the turn this drill has you transferring all of your weight onto your inside ski. At the fall line - as you place your outside ski back down - weight will begin to "load" back on to it. This loading can be attributed to a couple of factors: 1- Angular momentum (the force which feels to be pulling you to the outside of the turn. 2 - The lengthening of your outside led (essentially pushing your ski into the snow, which in turn pushes back on your body. And 3 - Gravity (which works with you at the beginning of the turn, but against you at the end of the turn. In terms of a pressure distribution ratio between your inside and outside leg, this is something that is continuously changing. At some point in your turn transition it will be 50/50, at some point at your turns end it will/can be up to 100/0, and during every other part of the turn it will "blend" from one to the other. I hope that helps....Thanks, Guy

[@749217]

Really good video, but very difficult to do this drill in real snow. Thanks

[@JB91710]

It is a totally worthless drill and will get you hurt.

[@shooter7a]

This is an advanced drill. It if it difficult, you probably need to work on boot pressure management.

[@JB91710]

@@shooter7a Yeah, my 53 years of teaching was a total waste of time. And no, that worthless exercise had nothing to do with anything they did in racing. Do you Ever ski on the uphill edge of your uphill ski during a parallel turn? The reason Shiffrin hard all her problems in the Olympics was because she wasn't getting off her downhill ski fast enough which put her on her inside ski so much it lifted her outside ski off the snow. Yeah, I don't know anything about ski technique. I only have the best ski teaching method on this planet. That's all.

[@shooter7a]

@@JB91710 if you are actually an instructor (which is doubtful based on your negative hostile attitude) then you must be the most childish, negative and closed minded instructor in history. Seriously...you know more than Olympic medalists? You are the best? Your way is the best? This is an advanced drill. Your comment about "uphill edge of uphill ski" shows you have little understanding of what this drill does. Are you aware that is one of the key drills that helped Phil and Steve become elite skiers. It is the White Pas Drill...as in White Pass, WA. Home ski hill of Phil and Steve Mahre....

[@JB91710]

@@shooter7a Body Miller should be a great teacher, right? He has no clue how to teach skiing and he can't even teach racing. Doing and teaching are completely and totally different talents. Yes, my teaching method is the best. Try reading it and TRY to tell me where and how I am wrong? Repeating yourself doesn't make what you say anymore true. Now, tell me HOW this "Trick" helped the Mahre's race better, not just that it did. I was skiing on the outside edge of my inside ski before your parents were born. It is nothing more than a freestyle trick. It teaches you absolutely nothing that you can use to make turns. If you can rotate the steering wheel of your car from the passenger seat, will that make you a better driver? Just because someone says something works, doesn't mean it does. You might want to stop being a Follower and start THINKING.

[@paulrudd9609]

Hey! Great skiing. What skis are you using in this video? Or what skis are you using currently? Thanks!

[@AlltracksAcademy]

Hey Paul, this video was filmed a few years ago now but I believe I was riding the Rossi Pursuit 18's in a 176cm. Rossignol revamped this model last season but it is still one of the best front side skis on the market. Thanks for your interest in the video, be sure to subscribe, like and share if possible. Thanks, Guy.

[@istvanszappanos2570]

Paul Rudd ...nagyon jó!

[@Zuddybuddy]

* Should also be noted that another key to this drill is thinking about being perpendicular to the slope angle as you enter the turn, or making sure you're stacked/balanced over the foot you're standing on..... hard to do this drill if you're not in an effective position.

[@AlltracksAcademy]

+Richard Dale-Mesaros Good points Richard, I couldn't agree more! Guy

[@puddlepouncer5629]

Tried something like this during a session with a ski instructor. Ski got "stuck" in a turn, tore my ACL. Woop woop :)

[@JB91710]

Exactly! Read my comments.

[@maui-maui4011]

Why do I have to use my internal ski instead external at the begining of the turn?

[@JB91710]

Notice he did answer you? As your skis pass under you, lean your upper body, from your kneecaps up, down the hill as you get off your downhill ski. Your uphill ski will instantly roll over onto your arch and the ski will turn. You just balance from one arch to the other and lean down the hill.

[@shooter7a]

Drills are the secret to skiing better. Skiing is too complex to learn through "instruction". An instructor/coach can say "ski like this" a thousand times...and it really wont matter. You have to break down the sub-movements and program your body to do them automatically. Then you put together the pieces you have programed..... The White Pass turn helps activate your new inside leg and achieve strong edge angles sooner. Phil and Steve Mahre did this drill when they were kids. Garlands RR tracks Swiss Drill Javelins White Pass / Norweigan Drill /Inside Out One Ski Turns Get Over It All these drills should be done from time to time to keep your skiing technique on point.

[@Bastard01g]

Can somebody tell the music track behind this video, please?

[@BM-wj3cq]

Second that. Tune please? :D

[@philiplacey5430]

Jem kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIHIimqDppibeZI

[@KaloqnBankov]

Which skies are these?

[@AlltracksAcademy]

I'm using Rossignol P800's in this video - such a great ski for carving!

[@jllaforce]

In the past, when I didn't get my weight properly on my downhill ski during a big carved turn like this, I accidentally ended up on the outside edge of the uphill ski and got stuck there -- this is not a fun feeling. What is the secret then to not getting stuck on this outside edge.

[@AlltracksAcademy]

+Daniel Desjardins The trick here is to lower you outside shoulder and drag your outside pole on the snow....this will keep you balanced on outside ski through turn completion...Thanks!

[@LetsTryVlogging365]

what is this supposed to do? from a tecnical point of view? i mean sking on your inside ski is fun and one legged carving is well fun as a ski teacher, but seems to me this drill will make people learn the wrong movements for carving

[@hervedepow4826]

It helps with learning to move your body down the fall line. This exercise stopped me from stepping up to my inside ski while attempting to initiate early transition. In doing so I was moving my body away from the fall line. Once you get the feel for this you will have the sensation of moving your feet towards the outside of the turn which means your body is moving inside. Another helpful hint for me is to take weight off the new inside ski rather than putting weight on the new outside ski. As you begin to move from neutral begin to unweight the downhill ski and this will help keep your body or centre of mass to the inside.

[@JB91710]

@@hervedepow4826 If you do what he does with his upper body to do this drill but you Just get off your downhill foot, you will accomplish your goal without risking blowing your knee to pieces. 0:48 All he had to do here is get off his left foot. That's it! No drill! No danger!

[@shooter7a]

This is an advanced drill. Do not attempt unless you are already a solid skier. The purpose of this drill is to develop very fine foot-ankle control and balance during the transition from one turn to another. Edging, pressure management, and dynamic balance. In the old days, Phil and Steve Mahre used this drill so they had superior control and confidence as they finished one turn, and exploded across the hill to the other turn, and could assume large edge angles before they loaded the ski. This drill also develops a strong "plan B" reflex for when you lose your DH edge. FIS level skiers lose their DH edge all the time. It happens at the limit. If you have done this drill a lot, when you lose the DH edge, your body has a plan B...the inside ski. With modern carving technique, an important concept is that the inside ski initiates and leads the new turn. Finishing a carve, 85%+ of the load is on the DH ski. As you transition, that ski needs to "stay in charge". You need to let the DH ski unload, drive your hips forward to keep pressure on the tongue of your DH boot as the ski goes flat, and then roll onto the new edge on the same ski. So you are going from stable position, to flat ski, to new edge. This is a very unstable transition that requires a lot of overall body inclination balance. Fine control on the new edge is key to this balance. That is what this drill isolate. If you know how to carve on the DH ski with high loads, there is ZERO chance of this drill putting you on your uphill ski. It is literally not possible because your uphill leg is in a much weaker position, bio-mechanically. it simply can not take much load. The harder you turn, the more load HAS to shift to your DH ski (till you lose the edge..and need Plan B for a fraction of a second). If you find this drill is scary, and hurts your knees...or you "get stuck" going straight...that 100% means you are not really advanced enough, and need to work on pressure management. You are back at the end of the turn! Do Swiss Drill and Rollerblade turns to correct your issues and build tongue pressure control.

[@paulbeard8713]

Keep at it Niels and sure you'll get there. Take a look at this other drill too which is a good starting point: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZTGYpyMYt6Gjbs

[@JB91710]

Well there you have it skiers. Read the comments from Alltrack at my other comment. Alltracks Academy doesn't care if you learn from them or not. All they care about is how much money they make.

[@AlltracksAcademy]

JB91710 But more importantly, sharing our love of this great sport and promoting a positive message to the world about how fulfilling an endeavour it can really be. Thanks goes out to all our supporter and anyone else out there interested in contributing in a constructive way to the project of cultivating positivity among our species 👍

[@JB91710]

This is good for blowing your knee to pieces. It has no value whatsoever in Your skiing. Just practicing balancing on your downhill arch in locations where you feel safe will prepare you for all types of skiing. That's what skiing is.

[@shooter7a]

If this drill hurts your knees, that simply means you are not advanced enough to perform the drill. You are in the back seat finishing your turns, and have not developed tongue pressure control and fore/aft balance skills. Every FIS level skier has this drill mastered. It is basically a less demanding step vs one ski drill.... and a bit harder than the "rollerblade one ski drill" "Roller blade" one ski.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4XaoGN_n5h6idU True one ski drill.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJe3hZ6kmraKiqc Either that, or you know more about skiing than Debbie Armstrong and Mikeala Shiffirn. How many Olympic medals do YOU have?