Inside Story - Sultanate of Sulu : Pawn or legacy ?

[@naimas8120]

I like how Roque is basically lecturing them about the Sabah claim problems 😂

[@reynaldoraymundo4684]

Sakay lang sa panahon yang roque na yan, nanalo na tau sa arbitral ruling sa WPS, anong ginawa niya? Nanahimik, pati yong boss niya, himod puwit ng chinese, at nagsalita pa na kapirasong papel lang ang arbitratation ruling na dapat lang itapon sa waste basket.

[@d_vinz]

Npka talino nya, as in.♥️ Pero ntawa tlaga ako sa mga pa "no" nya😅

[@upvotecomment2110]

@@reynaldoraymundo4684 Not a fan of Roque Pero isa sya sa pinaka una at frontliner ng pilipinas sa mga international law and disputes. Nadumihan lng sa pangalan nya sa partido ni Du30 (A Historical Disgrace sa Pilipinas) Pero magaling sya. "Epal/Sakay lng" quite biased and ignorant comment

[@naimas8120]

@@upvotecomment2110 hear hear

[@exploit_123_Travel]

@@upvotecomment2110 why you are dragging Duterte here? Do you think 2 Aquino's are better than Duterte? how shallow mind. Better for you to discuss this Sabah issue than dragging the name of the person who is not even a president at that time.

[@lavaBlack7]

It is the British who should be blamed for this.

[@nickmontilla9804]

9 LM7 .

[@zukarin8592]

True

[@zukarin8592]

INDIA and PAKISTAN are fighting for their territory because of United kingdom

[@djackzdjackz7004]

No, this is because Spanish and American intervention

[@Nowseemypoint]

You're right, they made this conflicts, they should correct their mistake.

[@Mimi-eg8jj]

Sabah was a gift by the sultan of brunei to the sultan of sulu even before malaysia became a country. It was rented by the British oil company and then handed to malaysia to continue the rent. However, Malaysia stopped the rent in 2013.

[@hasbiyahya1885]

Because sulu was attacked Malaysia,fact

[@sallydeguzman4854]

Correct the stoped paying of rent of sultan of sulo so the recognize the rent which they have reciept

[@lobsterparity7514]

Leasing were stopped bcs Sulu did terrorism attack over Sabah in 2013, and killed Malaysian armed forced civilians.

[@arkipadoom6431]

@@hasbiyahya1885 the attack doesn’t make the contract null & void

[@CovertGeopolitics]

​@@hasbiyahya1885 The owners of Sabah wanted to rest and retire in their own territory, but your country was attacked? You need to prove your sovereignty first before you can claim of an attack from an outsider. But who are the outsiders? The owners of the property since 1658, or the renter Malaysia which became a country only recently​ 1963.

[@CDOKayakClub]

EXACTLY!. The British should be called on to this to fix this problem. Otherwise, the worst can happen in Sabah. The current sultan and his family looks desperate because they have exhausted all their efforts. Even Pres NONOY Aquino (weak leader) is not helping.

[@utotmo8453]

After century, the justice from sultanate of sulu has been serve..... victory for Sabah belongs to the Philippines

[@maharirajak5513]

If Phillipines grant indepenence to Sulu, Malaysia might give Sabah to Sulu 😊

[@utotmo8453]

@@maharirajak5513 😂😆😆😆😆 sulu sultanate is a part of republic of the Philippines

[@maharirajak5513]

@@utotmo8453 How much power is Sulu sultante by phillipine govt? Does sulu sultanate has the autonomy over the so-called sulu territory?

[@marcos-dutertesupporterstv5149]

@@maharirajak5513 FALSE. the SULTANATE of SULU had assigned NORTH BORNEO OR SABAH TO REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES during PRESIDENT DIOSDADO MACAPAGAL TIME.

[@maharirajak5513]

@@marcos-dutertesupporterstv5149 You dont believe our version of history, I nothing more to say. Anyway, I strongly suggest you to visit Brunei History Centre as there are a lot of information related to this matter.

[@cynthianavallo9498]

They are not rebels, they are claiming what is rightfully theirs (Sultanate of Sulu). Malaysia is now defeated through an arbitration ruling of the court awarding Sabah to the Sultanate.

[@user-gz2pc2jk3t]

They are pure rabels to the govt of philippines

[@elizerlee7343]

yes the Sultanate of Sulu won the case and they must pay $14.9 billion ..or return back Sabbah the real owner!

[@AmmarRaz.z]

but the people of Sabah don't want to join the Philippines either😭

[@jamesv4692]

@@elizerlee7343 True ...

[@syujaputerajunaedibaco3919]

I support Philipina

[@budsmcquo]

The fact of the matter is, the Sultanate of Sulu "OWNS" Sabbah. Malaysia stopped paying rent to the Sultanate of Sulu therefore, the Owner has all the rights to claim its possession of Sabbah

[@barca346]

We are Sabah is for Malaysia not for Filipina..

[@jamesv4692]

True,Correct ka Dyn...

[@jeggylumimbay3240]

@@jamesv4692 Historically SABAH is for Philippines, either you like it or not.

[@Fadhli887]

@@jeggylumimbay3240 sabah for malaysia. You like or not i dont care and till now sabah still for malaysia. Haha

[@jeggylumimbay3240]

@@Fadhli887 Time will come not now but soon the truth is always prevail that the SABAH is ours and not yours. It was already ceded by the Sultanate of Brunei to the Sultan of Sulu as compensation for helping them during the civil war of Brunie.

[@AnythingandInteresting]

Why the fuck should you ask a British Lee to talk about the issue in Sabah?...where as in fact the british government is the main culprit of this ancestral issue...Why the fuck should the British Government include Sabah within the Malaysian territory where as in fact this is just a land being rented from the Sultanate of Sulu?...

[@C.I.MSossa]

TRUE!

[@dynaphilmarketing6744]

Malaysia did not brought about PEACE in but played a major role in instigating unrest and division among the people of Mindanao and still continue doing so up to this day and age which by the way has been admitted by the federal government on the record and international media itself, thus ultimately prove that if the Philippine government take back Sabah and bring Malaysia to court , whole of Mindanao will flourished bringing the whole country in collective progress growth. You must remember the federal government of Malaysia played the biggest blunder in the history of the Philippines when they instigated rebellion in Mindanao and supported a Traitor who killed himself to be proclaimed hero and to oust then President Marcos who has all intension to reunite Sabah to it's mother land. By doing so The federal government of Malaysia is by all means accountable to the injustice done to the Filipino people and continually support terror groups up to now thus keeping the Philippines in developing to the fullest. Core basis of the arguments are facts and the owners of the land has been so lenient in asserting of the claims to avoid war simply because the Sabahans are blood related to the Filipinos of Mindanao. The treachery, intimidation, inhumane acts, atrocities, and illegal land grabbing of the Colonial powers has come to full cycle. Panahon na Pilipinas para magising sa katotohanan at bumangon upang lumaban para sa kinabukasan ng ating bayan. Hinde lang lupa ang ninanakaw ng Malaysia sa mga Pilipino kundi pati ang mabuhay ng mapaya at magkaroon ng patas na pagkakataon upang mabigyan ng magandang buhay at kinabukasan ng ating bagong generasyon.

[@dannybarcenas9701]

Obviously their strategy to deflect the Sabah issue claim

[@millieespero15]

yes kabayan..it’s payback time

[@zarahlanzado8328]

Marami kasalanan yung malaysian.inhumane act sila mga naghanap buhay sana sila hindi pa mabigyan ng pagkakaon para mkahanapbuhay sila pero ano ginagawa nila dinadakip penepreso at hanggang mamatay nalang sila ja peprepreso at nagkasakit sila..sana makuha na sa sultan of sulo ang sabah..

[@jhunm4493]

Let us all Filipino make Nur Misuari a national hero + other Muslim accomplished as Malaysia funded and trained them and sending back to Mindanao to set it on fire...hep hep hooray

[@diontv2546]

Indeed, and that's the real issues here.

[@sergiopalomo1671]

More historical information should now be prepared to inform the general public. A hierarchal diagram of the sultanate of Sulu would be of great help for understanding the royal family structure. Time to give importance to our Muslim brothers and sisters.

[@dannybarcenas9701]

The lease of Sabah from Sulu Sultanate by Baron Overbeck in 1878 was transferred to British Prospector Alfred Dent. He then turned Sabah over to the British North Borneo Company who later turned Sabah over to the Royal Crown of Britain which was vehemently protested by then US Governor General to the Philippines F.B. Harrison. The British colonizer then included Sabah in the newly formed Malaya Federation with total disregard to the rightful owners.. The Sulu Sultanate "Our claim is mainly based on the following propositions: that Overbeck and Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in International Law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide." Senator Jovito Salonga

[@fariduddin313badri5]

Sultan kiram 2, the sucessor of the sultan who leased Sabah did not have children!! The sultanate was usurped later on by nieces and nephews. THERE ARE MORE LEGITIMATE CLAIMANTS out there!!

[@eljumaidilbinahmad2464]

@@dannybarcenas9701 you to be balanced, you should look into the Paper Agreement both in Sabah/Malaysia and the British and NOT ONLY the Philippines.

[@Amin-fp1gv]

In my view, if the Philippine government recognizes the Sulu government as a sovereign government, logically, the Sulu government has the right to claim and establish its own government in the south of the Philippines. Therefore, the philippines had to hand over their land in the south of the philippines to the sulu kingdom as a new country. From Malaysia's point of view, Malaysia does not recognize the Sulu kingdom and its heirs because in the original agreement the Sulu sultanate had surrendered all its sovereignty in Sabah to the British before the existence of Malaysia. In the agreement, sultan sulu will not claim and absolutely hand over power to Sabah with the promised compensation. Even the term 'lease' has been dropped and in total Sulu has no rights over Sabah. However, in 2013, Sulu heirs violated the agreement by claiming Sabah and started a military attack on Sabah. Therefore, the Malaysian government has the right to stop the payment because Sulu has violated the agreement. This military action has challenged the agreement and violated Malaysia's sovereign boundaries. Malaysia still adheres to ASEAN principles and can still be diplomatic. But when it comes to sovereignty, Malaysia will not compromise. Don't let Malaysia take the approach of treating the Philippines as 'persona non grata'

[@MANGYANSINGER]

British have no legal right to come up to New agreement with Malaysia without any concent from the sultanate of Sulo which is the real owner of Saba this is a total disregard,dishonor or bypass to the right of Owner.

[@jatipiturun]

Viva Sultanante Sulu from Indonesia

[@the9357]

Where sultan indonsia?

[@ekomarjuki3746]

​@@the9357 jogja

[@austintylereverhard1214]

They are not ragtag rebels, THEY ARE THE LEGITIMATE OWNERS OF SABAH! SABAH BELONGS TO THE PHILIPPINES!

[@Mike-cd3yd]

Mali ka balik tanaw ka sa kasaysayan ang MINSUPALA ay hindi parte ng Pilipinas. Inangkin lang... He he he mahirap tanggihan ang katutuhanan.

[@iwillfollowyou7395]

LOL, didn't their ancestors signed an agreement with the British in perpetuity. Why didn't go to the international court and demand for the land prior to the attack? Because they knew that they have no claim.

[@EdenBoySABAN]

Yess saba solu is part of Philippines its clear of boundaries of solu .But the Malaysians con't accepted that . And now Malaysia not pay 14B-$ in solu . What are u waiting for

[@lawson7899]

PHILIPPINES BELONG TO SPAIN!!!

[@zackyfleibel7043]

@@iwillfollowyou7395 yes you're right, they have an agreement, but sadly the government keeps ignoring them, almost 50 yrs the Philippines goverment, abandoned this people, what do you expect?? let them wait for another 50 yrs?? if you are not tausog, you don't have know the backstory of this issue, only the tausog people knows the truth that's why, even in death they never back down, remember this if all tausog are arm or just a 10k royal armies fully geared, malaysia will be down in just a couple of days

[@yeefranze]

For all we know, the British are to be blamed for this. Had they not unlawfully give away what's not theirs in the first place, this would have not happened.

[@dannybarcenas9701]

And Historical Records can prove it. The lease of Sabah from Sulu Sultanate by Baron Overbeck in 1878 was transferred to British Prospector Alfred Dent. He then turned Sabah over to the British North Borneo Company who later turned Sabah over to the Royal Crown of Britain which was vehemently protested by then US Governor General to the Philippines F.B. Harrison. The British colonizer then included Sabah in the newly formed Malaya Federation with total disregard to the rightful owners.. The Sulu Sultanate "Our claim is mainly based on the following propositions: that Overbeck and Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in International Law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide." Senator Jovito Salonga

[@ppyetv5851]

2022 now the victory for sultan of sulu philippines is clear need to push a little bit GOD BLESS PHILIPPINES sabah belong to philippines

[@mavssugarol8889]

Nope, Sabah owns by Kiram family but not a territory of phillipines. For example taga Quezon City ka pero may lupa ka sa Manila city ung lupa mo Territory narin ng Quezon city? Kaya lang sinabi ng mga Kiram na sa Pilipinas ang sabah ay dahil gusto lang nila ng back up

[@ppyetv5851]

@@mavssugarol8889 wala kang alam sa history ang sabbah ngayun ay hindi pagmamay ari ng kiram family ngayon kundi ng pilipinas na ilang dikada na ang lumipas nong binigay na nila ito sa pilipinas noong kanila pa iyan gusto nilang humiwalay sila sa pilipinas kaya may kaso ng rebilding muslim kasi gusto nilang humiwalay sa pinas noon (mindanao) pero nong nakuha ang sabah sa kanila ng malysia binigay na nila ito sa pinas

[@mavssugarol8889]

@@ppyetv5851 hindi pag mamayari ng kiram family ang sabah ngayon? E bakit sila ung kumukuha ng rent na natigil lang noong 2013.Hehe. Tapos na ung ruling nyan

[@ppyetv5851]

@@mavssugarol8889 kasi ang may usapan dyan sa ibang bansa o negosasyun ay ang Sultanate noong kanila pa iyang sabah hindi ang Pinas kaya dapat makuha ang dapat makuha ng sultan ang para sa kanila

[@mavssugarol8889]

@@ppyetv5851 kaya lang sinasabi ng sultan ng sulu na sa pilipinas ay due sa back up. Kung sa pilipinas ang sabah bakit sa mga kiram nagbabayad ng renta at hindi sa pilipinas? At anong usapan ba ang sinasabi mo? Dapat writteng agreements ang ipakita mo

[@jennaab8567]

I wonder now what the guy Lee Jones from London would say about this topic now that the heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu won their case.

[@ajmerabueno2555]

BEAUTIFUL SABAH OF THE PHILIPPINES 🇵🇭.

[@cristiansio]

Keep crying 😭😭😭😢😢👍🏻👍🏻

[@MuhdDen]

Keep dreaming..

[@killer3000ad]

You are mistaken sir. Beautiful Sabah of MALAYSIA!

[@Aliv-hy7bv]

As a sabahan aint no way i want to live in a third world country in philippines

[@sharifrahman7122]

rip sulu

[@johartsplaylist]

Mabuhay Sultanate of Sulu.

[@johnnyclado9911]

ASEAN is a good for our Malay race. Let us communicate with peace and love among us, be a role model to our own citizens.

[@Nonames997]

I'm Sabahan I'm not Malay ,Malay is in Kuala Lumpur

[@sanaina8297]

@@Nonames997 I think he means rumpun melayu, sabahan people is a part of malay race, and they are still considered as in same category as malay race eventhough they are not ethnically malay,

[@dannybarcenas9701]

@@Nonames997 Do you what a Malay Race is?

[@dannybarcenas9701]

@@sanaina8297 There is a Malay of Malaysia. There is also the Malay of the Great Malayan Race where Malaysia Indonesia & the Philippines belong to

[@B1398-p8i]

Malay means “runaway “ so the Malays are remnants or rejects from Indonesia,

[@johnnyclado9911]

Greed is the fruit of evil acts but with love and compassion we can achieve harmony in the regions.

[@johnnyclado9911]

The lease lapsed already after 100 year so the Sultunate of Sulu has the right to claim their lease properties of Sabah.

[@user-tq7nx1yr4j]

yea send in the abbu sayyap

[@KK-ro7gx]

Sulu only have Sabah for 7 years Given by Brunei sultan Malaysia got Sabah becuase of majority vote. Malaysia have Sabahan support. Doest seem good for PH

[@julius3385]

@@KK-ro7gx sabahan didnt really choice a baby and newly established unlike the former powerful ph and sabahan tausug pilipino than fake malay tausug

[@KK-ro7gx]

@amogus Sulu sultanate founded by Johorean

[@vincentjesspoyos6210]

@@KK-ro7gx then take the people you want not the land...

[@BryanWong]

the sabahans chose to join malaysia, not forced. That counts a lot. respect the wishes of marjority, not about sultans and goverments. People of Sabah have chosen, respect their wishes.

[@sallydelacruz884]

Malaysia is paying Rents for Sabah to the Sultanate of Sulu, Philpiines… Meaning, Philippines is the Lessor, Malaysia is the Lessee…

[@elchapo4485]

bro sabah&sarawak FORM Malaysia. Not join. but FORM

[@Jakeisinthepool]

Sabah people are whoever people they are.. because Philippines let Malaysians rent that land so Malaysians can put any people they want over there, doesn't mean that renters can say... ohhhh we own this building now because we are the people who live in this building... Malaysia doesnt make sense at all.. it was never sold to Malaysia, it was rented and id you say Sabahans want to join Malaysia, then they can go, but that has nothing to do with the land. You can't just put Malaysian people in Philippines then Malaysian people will say "oh we wanna join Malaysia now because we live here in the Philippines" your logic doesnt make any sense. Now pay $14Billion of rent to the Philippines, illegal settlers.

[@osamabinladen824]

@@Jakeisinthepool I agree. Tulungan ko kayo para mapaglaban ang karapatan ng Pilipinas. Atin ang Sabah! It's time for all the insurgency and rebel forces of the Philippines to unite!

[@alexxxx4190]

when did sabah chose to join malaysia?when in fact malaysian has been discriminating the people of sabah for decades.. bryan wong will you join people who discriminate you?

[@gerlie_quider]

Sabah, Philippines 🇵🇭

[@Paopao621]

stop

[@gerlie_quider]

@@Paopao621 no one has the right to stop me.

[@normanofficial138]

@@gerlie_quider i from kota Kinabalu Sabah Malaysia

[@gerlie_quider]

@@normanofficial138 ok live peacefully hahahah

[@TeleeFONE]

Sulu = colonize by Philippines, their ancestors killed and their land forced to be part of Phillipines, they should build more army and fight for independence from Philippines 👍👍👍.

[@johannahali9922]

Sabah was given to the Sultan of Sulu as a thankful gift from the Sultan of Brunei because Sultan of Sulu helped them to defeat the rebellion to their country then how can Malaysia own that state? The Sultanate of Sulu has the documents as the evidence that Sabah is under the territory of his Kingdom and Malaysia signed that they can rent the Sabah with small amount and now the Sultanate of Sulu want to get back his land then Malaysia said that its their state???

[@kauaku4424]

Sultan of sulu have teritory??? Its sulu teritory or Pilipines teritory??

[@NotLikeWhatYouThink]

Pajakkan kekal?thats mean in malay languange sulu give for free to british🤣

[@Tally-MMall]

it is malaysia's the brunei already agreeded to the british. Also brunei is the original owner of sabah but after the britieh agreement sabah was malaysia's. And the fact that sulu watched the battle and didn't assist brunei, brunei held of the war itself after that sulu stole the loot and resource. this is According to brunei's history if you do not believe me please seek for a historian also read the history of brunei and what i said earlier there was also no document regarding of brunei giving sabah to sulu, they lied to the sultan so the sultan wouldn't be mad, the sulu that said it was their's was fake do not believe this fake history, please seek an expert of brunei history, there was really no documents about it giving to them please stop claiming "sabah, philippines!" They are not yours, the whole sabah is not yours the sulu maybe owns a little bit of sabah but the full owner is malaysia. The people in sabah stays in malaysia as they already agreed to stay in malaysia it is confirmed that sabah will stay in malaysia, if the philippines wish to provoke this request and start an invasion of sabah they are having a war with australia, new zealand, british and the native people that are already agreeing to stay in malaysia but even if US joins they would have to face the UK and australia and new zealand they will either choose to fight with philippines or they fight the philippines or be forced to leave the battle. If the batte continues the UN (United Nations) will be forced to stop the battle.

[@julkeplehjaafar5221]

We do not believed or accept that argument..Sabah is a soverign state ruled by its own Sultan ..Brunei is not so Stupid to hand a golden State of Sabah with rich natural resources to Dato from island of Sulu by whom was appointed the title of Dato from Sultan of North- Borneo.

[@nicapika7970]

@@Tally-MMall bohoo. Malaysia is now being forced to pay 15 billion us dollars. Just accept it. Sabah is really owned by the sultanate of sulu.

[@fear9866]

sabah already make decision to join malaysia since cobbold commission

[@karinagonzales8946]

wow ang galing sir harry Roque .... good job sir i salute you sir your the best 🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏

[@IHateMath143]

That was the time when Roque still acknowledged Marcos Sr. is indeed a mass murderer.

[@extraordinaryme4943]

Sabah, Philippines 🇵🇭. Mabuhay ang Sultanato ng Sulu

[@Amin-fp1gv]

In my view, if the Philippine government recognizes the Sulu government as a sovereign government, logically, the Sulu government has the right to claim and establish its own government in the south of the Philippines. Therefore, the philippines had to hand over their land in the south of the philippines to the sulu kingdom as a new country. From Malaysia's point of view, Malaysia does not recognize the Sulu kingdom and its heirs because in the original agreement the Sulu sultanate had surrendered all its sovereignty in Sabah to the British before the existence of Malaysia. In the agreement, sultan sulu will not claim and absolutely hand over power to Sabah with the promised compensation. Even the term 'lease' has been dropped and in total Sulu has no rights over Sabah. However, in 2013, Sulu heirs violated the agreement by claiming Sabah and started a military attack on Sabah. Therefore, the Malaysian government has the right to stop the payment because Sulu has violated the agreement. This military action has challenged the agreement and violated Malaysia's sovereign boundaries. Malaysia still adheres to ASEAN principles and can still be diplomatic. But when it comes to sovereignty, Malaysia will not compromise. Don't let Malaysia take the approach of treating the Philippines as 'persona non grata'

[@frasperkat]

pres. duterte was right to take harry roque as his palace spokesman.. a very fast talker...i pray and hope thru the will of our god almighty .. that his disputes will be settled before the end term of pres. rodrigo duterte by 2022.......and the sultanate of sulu can enjoy the fruits of their land sabah....

[@manndcruz]

It was the British who manipulated ownership of North Borneo, utilizing these lands as their plantation. Another example of how power and greed when combined they turn the world upside down. Sad to say I don't think that piece of land will be returned to the rightful owner "Sultanate of Sulu" during my lifetime. I just hope Filipinos will not forget this claim of our Muslim brothers, hopefully in future they'll succeed. Who knows if Sulu-Mindanaoans prosper then a long lasting peace might come next.

[@dannybarcenas9701]

The lease of Sabah from Sulu Sultanate by Baron Overbeck in 1878 was transferred to British Prospector Alfred Dent. He then turned Sabah over to the British North Borneo Company who later turned Sabah over to the Royal Crown of Britain which was vehemently protested by then US Governor General to the Philippines F.B. Harrison. The British colonizer then included Sabah in the newly formed Malaya Federation with total disregard to the rightful owners.. The Sulu Sultanate "Our claim is mainly based on the following propositions: that Overbeck and Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in International Law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide." Senator Jovito Salonga

[@henrypayat4155]

Tnx harry roque..im waching u about malaysia & ph. Sultenate of sulu.

[@DearFamily18]

And if there are several claims in regard with the legitimate heirs of the sultanate of sulu and north borneo are currently disputed. Should the Malaysian government turn over the disputed area to the government of the Philippines. In fact, if the Malaysian government are confused about the legitimate heirs, why they are still paying the lease agreement?

[@giovannivicente7462]

Agree

[@haziqrazak96]

Sabah are not Philippines. Also the sulu are not Philippines. Give them independent than you can condemned our action. You are asking Malaysian do vote. And we do. But you condemned our intigrity but still you ignored sulu people vote. And fyi. You people are killing sulu more then us. In fact the payment is because Malaysia always want peace. In fact Malaysia if we don't want to pay long time ago, we can. But we choose peace. Not like you greedy. Sulu people can have higher standard living in Sabah rether than your state. And the last fact for you. Sulu people have higher right to claim their island more than in Sabah. And if Philippines give sulu independent. Then I agree Sabah and sulu be one country that conduct their state itself. But not for philipino greedy You can say I'm lying but we Malaysian give Singapore and Brunei be independent when their choose to do so

[@goozy6790]

@@haziqrazak96 sulu is under philippine boundaries and we consider them filipinos. .you have no respect to the people who help your kingdom not to be torn down. .sabah is a gift to the sultanate of sulu and philippine become one with the sultanate of sulu. .so in short, saba is part of philippine

[@haziqrazak96]

@@goozy6790 FYI you consider them Philippine but their not, and their are on your boundaries because your force them, they don’t want to. Vice verse what you can say why sulu land had to be with Philippine same goes to Sabah their a lot of race in Sabah and some of them are considered them self as Malay and their consider them self as Malaysia. Totally not like your country. FYI Sabah has been invade more then one country before Sulu Brunei take over after sulu British get over. Why? Because they left their citizen until their independence with Malaysia. like your country there a lot of country that can claim your land base on history. Hey what do you think Malayo-Polynesian languages came from?

[@killer3000ad]

@@goozy6790 The people there voted to become part of Malaysia decades ago. Just give up and let the pitiful remnants of the Sulu sultanate fade away.

[@estomagomarivic9286]

I salute you Pak Roque!!!! You are telling the truth, only but the truth.

[@DerillPlays]

Bruh, I was first year highschool at this time, I never heard this news. Wow harry roque? WEEEWWWWWWWW

[@jhamaldelpilarginoongjha884]

i like the accent of filipino when they speak english so verry nice to hear😍💘

[@abnerbaiguen6957]

Because of Sabah issues was part of Philippines there is no blaming and cleared that Malaysia rented only

[@dannybarcenas9701]

There is the French , German, Chinese. Indian, Russian Accent.. They call ours The Neutral Accent. It can be easily understood by all English speaking people

[@padillajmp]

All issues and concern must be address in diplomatic manner by both countries (Philippines and Malaysia).

[@jabluenayan]

The Philippines has won the United Nations Court, but Malaysia still does not recognize the court's decision

[@abdulwahidmdtahir3660]

​@@jabluenayan, which United Nations court? And what was the verdict?

[@abdulwahidmdtahir3660]

​@@jabluenayan, I ask again. @jabluenayan , which United Nations court? And what was the verdict?

[@Ernesto_Che_Guevarra]

Sabah was and is owned by the Sultanate of Sulu, and consequently by The Philippines. Malaysia must now accept the decision and start moving for its own good.

[@bluestar2253]

Hahaha wait till we start kicking out those illegal pinoys occupying our land in Sabah. Jangan cabar kami ya!

[@justdoggostv8628]

Sabah is for Indonesia

[@maharirajak5513]

@@justdoggostv8628 Are you serious? Which history book you read?

[@mochamadfarid5721]

@@justdoggostv8628 you stupid or ignorant? Read history!!! I am Indonesian. Sabah and Sarawak are not belong to Malaysia nor Indonesia.

[@shonehellsing784]

@@maharirajak5513 he's a Malaysian

[@Cloud-er6yg]

March 2022 Malaysia is asked now to pay $14.9 B to the Sultanate of Sulu by the Arbitral Court.

[@kamaruddin9172]

Do not forget Sabahan voted to join Malaysia, what the people want is what matter the most, no Sabahan want to be ruled by a long gone kingdom. The Sultanate no longer exist and they themselves do not know who is the current Sultan of Sulu. None of them bother to protect Sabahan during Japanese invasion. None come even to visit after WWII. They are no photo or documents showing Sulu Sultanate ever govern Sabah. No representative of the Sultan ever appointed to Sabahan. No record of tax ever been paid to the Sultanate. During the reign of the Sultan and current modern time none of them able to take care the welfare of Sabahan, now their princess have ordinary job and go to work by public bus. Malaysia govern Sabah together with Sabahan for Sabahan since 1963 and bring prosperity and security.

[@ramporcz4212]

The most important was the Malaysia's respect of contract a basic teaching of Quran

[@rosemagpulong8052]

What is clear is that up until now Malaysia is paying rent to the Sultanate of Sulu amounting 5,000 ringgit a year, therefore Malaysia has no right to claimed ownership Sabah to International court since Malaysia is only a tenant.

[@killer3000ad]

It's not rent money, it cession money. Cession means "the formal giving up of rights, property, or territory by a state." You read that right, the Sulu sultanate gave up all claims to Sabah ages ago.

[@dannybarcenas9701]

@@killer3000ad Unfounded.. No such thing as per recorded Document.. That's the reason why the Madrid arbitration ruled in favor of the Sulu Sultanate.. The original Lease contract between Sulu Sultanate & Baron Overbeck which he later transferred to Alfred Dent then transferred to the British North Borneo company.. The BNB Company ceding Sabah to British Crown does not terminate the binding contract of the leased property Sabah.. It must still be honored by whosoever succeeds the property.. And the very reason why Malaysia continued to pay the Rent of Lease obligation until 2013...

[@abdulwahidmdtahir3660]

​@@dannybarcenas9701I think you were confused and misunderstood. Madrid Court didn't rule in favour of Sulu, it ruled in favour of Malaysia and Sulu lost. Then Sulu and the gang including their Arbitrator Gonzalo Stampa ran to Paris and put up their case in Paris Court. If Sulu was sincere, they should pursue their case further in Madrid court of appeal. It was Paris Court that ruled in favour of Sulu and they won easily became Malaysia didn't participate in the proceeding. Why Malaysia didn't participate? Because Malaysia has already won in Madrid Court. Stampa's action of going to Paris and put up their case in Paris Court when Madrid Court had already gave its ruling was seen by Spanish Judicial Authority as "contempt of court" and "professional intrusiveness". Followin this Stampa's appointment as an Arbritrator was revoked or annulled by Spanish Judicial Authority and his arbitration was also annulled. Criminal proceeding was also taken against him. Malaysia applied for stays of enforcement and annulment of Paris Court ruling in Paris Court of Appeal and in various other Court of Appeal in Luxembourg and Netherlands for other related claims put up by Sulu. And finally Malaysia won and Sulu lost in various Courts of Appeal. Latest as in June 2023: 1. June 6th - Paris Court of Appeal had set aside and annulled the previous Paris Court ruling awarding the defunct Sulu Sultanate. 2. June 27th - Dutch Court of Appeal in The Hegue had dismissed a bid by eight heirs of former Sultan of Sulu to enforce Paris Court ruling, and dismissed an attempt to seize Malaysian assets following the Paris Court of Appeal decision. 3. Paris Court of Appeal also imposed on Sulu €100,000.00 to be paid to Malaysia as legal cost. 4. In Luxembourg, a second attempt to seize Malaysian Petronas assets had been filed in Luxembourg Court due for hearing in September 2023 after the first attempt was dismissed. This will likely be dismissed too following the Paris Court of Appeal decision. Now is already November 2023, no news about Sulu's claim proceeding in Luxembourg Court. It looked like they withdrew their case after they acknowledged the Paris Court of Appeal decision. Malaysia had spent upto RM32m (USD6. 6m) to deal with these Sulu's claim cases in various European courts in Madrid, Paris, Luxembourg and Netherlands. Apart from the €100,000.00 Sulu has to pay to Malaysia as legal cost, Malaysia is planning to sue Sulu for compensation for the loss of RM32m (USD6.6m) spent.

[@johnfranzribal6104]

To that malaysian and english man.. You will now know and remember on CY 2022 that that the ruling in an French International court decided for Malaysia to pay almost 15 billion US dollar to the heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu who are Filipinos..

[@commanderaat5001]

Cry about it because they still not won lol

[@VIEWEDBOX]

The host is very well informed about the topic/issue and she knows when and how to neutralize the conversation in panel... good job in facilitating the discussion. All of them had shared a greater amount of information. And it is up to the general public to conclude their stand on SABAH issue.

[@forbiddenboy8720]

As Sabahans, I prefer Malaysia over the Philippines ... We do not want to be Filipinos .. Please understand

[@effe5237]

We don't want you anyways we just want the land your country stole.

[@bleach05]

Its your choice ...packed your things and go to malaysia land...

[@irwansyahtourguide832]

I am an Indonesian. I support The UN decisions to submit Sabah to the Phillipines.

[@itsthemuscledad38]

Thank you!!!!! People see the truth.

[@MYRD-ew6oi]

How do you know that the UN has decided?

[@imnotkazuma3571]

Diamlah orang tua

[@janaadil]

UN submit Sabah to Philipines???....what a stupid you are? go and learn history

[@andraputraanuar6672]

So indonesia should return back aceh to Sultanate of aceh...

[@mcze_15]

Wow harry roque is great speaker salute to you sir👍

[@innerpeacefindings671]

SABAH IS owned by it's people, no one should denied it. Let the people choose.

[@adolphdelatorre3102]

you said that because you know the people will choose malaysia

[@janaadil]

@@adolphdelatorre3102 so???

[@adolphdelatorre3102]

@@janaadil if they dont like us thats ok the feeling is mutual.... 😜😜🙄

[@pacitaturanodano7920]

The sultan don't need you people he need his land's back that's all.

[@brianmayabella5992]

If i let u borrow something, it doesnt mean its yours.

[@bobetization]

Sabah is a part of the Philippines, when i was a kid we have old PH map in my granny house, i just dont understand how it became Malaysian territory, lol

[@drake_yeah807]

learn history brother. there is a part you miss

[@lainea8628]

Please upload on Facebook and let it viral for Our Filipino fellows to see. We deserve to see it too. I’m quit interested with that map. I really wanna have even just picture of it.

[@taufiqsamsidi4090]

@@lainea8628 because u stupid like your granny

[@ceebzceebzyp4535]

@@taufiqsamsidi4090 have some respect malangsay you have no respect for eldest people land grabber 😒🇲🇾🔫🇵🇭❤️

[@killer3000ad]

Sounds like you missed history lessons.

[@almosara1230]

Yes you are very much correct that the Philippine Gov't and MILF strongly opposed this incident not because they don't want Sabah to be part of Bangsamoro Homeland but due to the fact that Malaysian Government role as the broker of the Peace Talks between the MILF and PH Govt. Wherein, Malaysian Gov't. carefully crafted this on-going Peace Talks in favor to them that by in any means Sabah Issue should be excluded from the discussion.

[@dannybarcenas9701]

Malaysia actually supported the MILF to create havoc in the Mindanao & Sulu Area and burden the Philippine Gov't

[@taglavis]

Want Malaysia really want is exclude mindanao from Philippines just wait and see this for sulu sulatanate will ask for referendum. Their mayora have spoken about sulu sulatanate being illegally annexed to Philippines by the Spaniards in a treaty.

[@Leontiger112]

You know who is the financer of MILF? Malaysia government because they dont want Sabah Its belong again in philippines by sultanate of sulu. They use by syndicated or misleading style by Filipino people . So maybe in the furure malayaysia royal and govrnment will blame this happened

[@edgarbarraca2885]

@@taglavis almost 600 years the Sultanate of Sulo was part of Philippines even before spanish times Mindanao.Island was nearest neighbor of Julo Sultanate ,they are attach through cultural ,religious,hegemony among same people part of many.kingdoms and empires sinces.11 century up to this day

[@edgarbarraca2885]

@@taglavis Malaysia intervened in the troubled mindanao because of SABAH we understood ,but not all times being neighbors it look that way ,they have done something which unfair to the Phils. first they should refrain of giving support to a rebellion going in its neighbors doorsteps ,open knowledge of people of mindanao during the seventies when the rebellion broke out,this time politics must be out ,for it a treason to Philippines for politicians again wallowing in Sabah issue ,they should be hang upside down...and Malaysia must.learn its lessons..keep away from neighbors backyard

[@Ciscore]

Simple logic must be applied: if Malaysia still paying its rent up to now, does that mean he owns what he was renting? There are reports prior to the standoff, that the Malaysian ambassador to the Philippines went to see the Sultan and negotiate to extend the lease for another 100 years with 360,000 ringgit annually. If your gov't really confident that own sabah, why would they do such thing?

[@killer3000ad]

It wasn't rent they were pay but cession payment.

[@dannybarcenas9701]

@@killer3000ad That's the reason why the Madrid arbitration ruled in favor of the Sulu Sultanate.. The original Lease contract between Sulu Sultanate & Baron Overbeck which he later transferred to Alfred Dent then transferred to the British North Borneo company.. The BNB Company ceding Sabah to British Crown does not terminate the binding contract of the leased property Sabah.. It must still be honored by whosoever succeeds the property.. And the very reason why Malaysia continued to pay the Rent of Lease obligation until 2013...

[@thepeculiars]

for example, if you are a rightful owner of an Apartment building or condominium.. would you be paying rent to yourself for staying there even though you own the building? ..that is why Malaysia is paying rent to the sultanate of Sulu for the LEASE of Sabah, because its not theirs..

[@arifthenoobguitarist]

Agreed. This conflict is bad for the bilateral relations between our nations

[@C.I.MSossa]

yes

[@edgarbarraca2885]

Its not bad to correct an injustice to the Royal Sultanate of Sulo,it was theirs their families own Sabah ,The Malaysian govt. must respect the ownership.of Sabah of the Sultanate of Sulo,the Philippines was the country of the real owners so goes the.people of Sabah will like Sultanate Julo now become Pilipino.citizens

[@TeleeFONE]

@@edgarbarraca2885 shut up and stop occupying and colonizing Sulu people and their land, I want Malaysia to help Sulu gain independence against their Filipino colonizers and occupation.

[@anis1649]

@@edgarbarraca2885 'people of Sabah will like Sultanate Julo now become Pilipino.citizens' nope none of sabahan will like to be parrt of phillipines. in fact, they're disgusted, and will rage if anyone associated them with phillipines.

[@johanafiqharon5075]

when you are so poor now and you remembered a land that you once owned but sold it just because it was just a deep jungles and mountains back then, seeing that land developed and fertile now under the new owner hurt your feelings.. well, tough luck

[@johnmichel6208]

Ikr, but we can be better if we actually claimed our resources just like what the treaty with semenanjung said.

[@itsmenny]

malaysia is the poor one here they cannot give back property they rented😂😂 you know how small malaysia resources is company to us.. 🥱🥱🥱

[@karlovinzon9855]

Philippines is way richer than malaysia 😂

[@johnmenardcastilla7480]

@@karlovinzon9855 yeah right..hhaha.. too much gold waiting to be given for the humanity..

[@ah_watt]

@@karlovinzon9855 I saw slump area near Makati...how rich are you? 🤣🤣🖕🖕

[@izmileon2263]

Philippines sabah 🇵🇭😘😘😘😘😘 2022

[@JohnEichmann]

Sabah belongs to the Sultanate of Sulu but because of the British which in previous history it divides ancient territory and nation like India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, also here in Malaysia, the British give the territory to Malaysia but it really belongs to Islamic peoplw of southern Philippines.

[@C.I.MSossa]

r u from sabah bro?

[@JohnEichmann]

@@C.I.MSossa nope Deutschland

[@estomagomarivic9286]

Lee Jones is so unfair without even knowing the truth about the matter!!!

[@DerillPlays]

Harry keeps saying "noh?" in his english sentences thinking that he was talking to filipino people. XD I just noticed.

[@jhunyson593]

No,it his mannerism,every time he talk to anybody

[@Nowseemypoint]

Vaklava mannerism

[@bheah.7273]

@@Nowseemypoint inggit ka lang sa accent ni Roque

[@emackrecalde5192]

How about the Malaysian who look like to talk? 😅

[@Fab69621]

We want to stay with Malaysia

[@gregoriolamayo9994]

For all you know Sabah belongs to Phil and malaysian knew it only they took hold in it as a source of financial economies they needed. British company rented Sabah not sold

[@dannybarcenas9701]

The lease of Sabah from Sulu Sultanate by Baron Overbeck in 1878 was transferred to British Prospector Alfred Dent. He then turned Sabah over to the British North Borneo Company who later turned Sabah over to the Royal Crown of Britain which was vehemently protested by then US Governor General to the Philippines F.B. Harrison. The British colonizer then included Sabah in the newly formed Malaya Federation with total disregard to the rightful owners.. The Sulu Sultanate "Our claim is mainly based on the following propositions: that Overbeck and Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in International Law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide." Senator JOVITO SALONGA

[@edgarbarraca2885]

They are economic power in ASEAN because of SABAH the resources they exploited its a shame its not yours it has its owners well times come it turn to.rust

[@Pinoycommentary]

New subscribers from Philippines 🇵🇭🥰 yes my sulo and sabah claims in the Philippines 🥰🇵🇭❤️

[@fijimonster]

The Filipino man can talk fast!

[@ceebzceebzyp4535]

What is this brothers and brothers killing each other let's stop the killing let's start being friend I'm sorry about what happen Malaysia please forgive us🇵🇭❤️🇲🇾

[@batahsug8142]

So long time the Tausug of Sultanate of Sulu were claiming their Ancestral Domain but the Malaysian Government were always refusing to answer this claim until they called it " dormant ".

[@iskandarshah9164]

Sorry read history 1st. Sultan Sulu the 1st was Johorean, now Malaysia. Sultan Sulu give Sabah tu British.

[@UnderTakerSN1]

@@iskandarshah9164 no, it was leased

[@UnderTakerSN1]

Your Malaysian government is still paying the lease, until sultan said, enough is enough and want the sabah back and but the Malaysia refused. And they(malaysia) self proclaimed it as theirs

[@iskandarshah9164]

@@UnderTakerSN1 Sultan Sulu Signed Agreement. They give sabah to British. Then Sultan Sulu Grandson Also repeat Agreement. Sabah resident agree to Joint Malaysia. No body force to.. if you ask them to Join, they will refuse. Philippines must focus on economy & covid

[@iskandarshah9164]

@@UnderTakerSN1 we are malay, actually.. Sulu Need to Joint US. They Muslim, malay. Why they joint Philippines

[@merlinaroyeras4581]

Yes, the British gov't is to be blamed.

[@felixjr.c.bautista5324]

This British author the real story behind the Sultanate of Sulu. Obviously, he as well as the British is in cahoot with Malaysia.

[@roseargumedo6606]

Dapat lang nasuportahan natin ang mga kababayan natin sultan of sulo sapagkat sila man ay pilipino suport for sabah claim over all.

[@teresitagallardo9391]

Yes..!!! Great Britain is to be blamed for this mess it left when it gave independence to Malaysia. And GB ' MUST' help on this problem.

[@davisurdaneta1426]

The fact that Malaysia recognized the agreement by paying lease to the Sultan of Sulu, it's enough proof that they still have the proprietary rights of the territory. If Malaysia is not willing to return the land to its rightful owner they should at least compensate the family of Sultan. Otherwise, you can call it land grabbing or occupation like what Israel did to the Palestinian land or the Chinese occupying Tibet.

[@johnmichel6208]

I think the british released Sabah as a country and not a land of the sulu :/

[@giandexteradeser1988]

It's natural that malasia knows, who's owner sabah ..that's way malasian reat rightful owner... Philippines

[@luqmankotear]

Compensate? Aren't the Malaysian gov sent compensation financially? It is not IF Malaysia willing to return the land to its rightful owner.. It is the Sabahan community leaders support of the formation in 1963.. Also this is not even close to what happened between Israel and palestine.. the one doing the invasion would be the Sulu not Malaysia.. also.. its the sultanate bad ruling made sabah administration chaotic.. Again.. it is not Malaysia taking sabah away from them.. Sabah want to gain independence by supporting the formation when Malaysia invited them..

[@renvic_moodz4480]

it took years when Phil. go peak to its power it maybe reclaim

[@C.I.MSossa]

@@johnmichel6208 whats the right of british tto make it a country if itt only rented it?

[@MsNorasha]

this is what happened when people ignore history ==

[@jecilyndeleon684]

k

[@jecilyndeleon684]

iiko

[@jbnjugj3560]

Yep

[@giandexteradeser1988]

Sabah Philippines, 💯

[@abdulwahidmdtahir3660]

@@giandexteradeser1988 , dreaming again?

[@tomsbunk3790]

The truth is the former bruneian sultanate/king never said to give the northern land of borneo to sultanate of sulu but clearly said in the agreement that the land is loan or "pajak" in malay language as writte.... Then its conclude that the claim of the Northern borneo land as theirs by sultanate of sulu is non-valid...... The real reason why sulu sultanate raises that claim is because the Northern borneo land is more prosperous than his island land that he is in dire need of money as his expenditure use he is so broke that even his medical expenditure is sponsored by The Philippines Government

[@centerpauld]

he is not self proclaim,kiram is the last sultan recognize by the government of the philippines.

[@ColonelMichaelOrgan]

Please, not the “last” Sultan, the incumbent.

[@newwielonzaga1386]

It's a contract of lease!

[@CovertGeopolitics]

The owners of Sabah wanted to rest and retire in their own territory, but your country was attacked? You need to prove your sovereignty first before you can claim of an attack from an outsider. But who are the outsiders? The owners of the property since 1658, or the renter Malaysia which became a country only recently​ 1963.

[@gracelapiloton9696]

exactly!

[@ericmarcos3273]

very well said!

[@nexusdues3028]

They’re the real owners.

[@weeree8642]

JUST YOUR ELUSIVE DREAMS . BRO☑️🙄🙄🙄

[@gianniumali8497]

This BRITS DONT KNOW HISTORY. OVERBECK LEASED NORTH BORNEO FROM SULTAN KIRAM. SULTAN OF BRUNEI ASKED SULTAN OF SULU TO HELP TO DEFEAT THE APPRAISING IN THE KINGDOM OF BRUNEI. SABAH WAS GIVEN TO THE SULTAN. THAT IS THE TRUEIST HISTORY. IT IS WRITTEN AND IT WILL BE DONE.

[@mixtv3121]

It were between Bruneir brothers who had been conflict for the past years and ask Sultunate of Sulu to help the conflict and as a reward the Sabah islands.

[@brucelee1122]

Yes true but Soldier of sulu didnt attack Sultan Abdul Mubin in Chermin Island.. They just Monitoring far away.. That Why Sultan Muhyiddin didnt Give Sabah to Sultan Sulu.

[@brucelee1122]

Its written in History Of Brunei

[@mudahmad62]

The Sultan of Sulu did not have the right to Sabah because the Sultan of Sulu violated the agreement to help the Sultan of Berunai as in the agreement, thus the agreement was automatically annulled, think wisely where is the right of the Sultan of Sulu ?.

[@francinelieto8899]

With all this dispute, We Malay brother should just unite, Brunei, Malaysia, Philippines

[@kristinaargosino1546]

It’s about time, please give and pay back the Sultanate of Sulu, we’ve been waiting for this moment, please give it back and pay the Sultanate of Sulu, We love our neighboring countries as our President says Philippines is friends of everyone and enemy to none, but give justice to the Sultunate of Sulu.

[@themalaysianpatriot3099]

Any Filipino and Sulu supporters would point to the 1878 agreement and claim that Sabah was lease to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). But there are numerous evidence to point that Sulu did not previously own Sabah as the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs would suggest, the claim that the Sultanate of Brunei gifted North Borneo (Sabah) to the Sultanate of Sulu as a gift can be disputed and debunked by the following evidence: - 1877 Agreement Prior to the 1878 Agreement which was signed between the British North Borneo Company (BNBC) and the Sultanate of Sulu, there was an agreement that was signed in 1877 between the Sultanate of Brunei and the British North Borneo Company. Within this agreement, the word “grant” has been used numerous times. It’s also stated within the agreement that the entirety of North Borneo (Sabah) will be ceded to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC) for 15,000 Mexican gold coins . With these statements, it’s clear that the Sulu Sultanate did not own North Borneo (Sabah) and that the 1878 agreement is redundant. I would also like to point out that within the 1878 agreement, the word “pajak” was meant to be stated a “grant and cede”, and within the receipts of the so-called “rent payments” are listed as cession payment. Cession means to give something away. With that this proves that the 1878 Agreement wasn’t a lease agreement but rather a cession agreement. But let’s say for the sake of argument that the Sultanate of Brunei gifted North Borneo (Sabah) to the Sultanate of Sulu and that the Sultanate of Sulu did indeed own Sabah and that the 1878 agreement was a lease agreement. Yet the Sultanate of Sulu has signed many agreements which relinquishes their rights over Sabah. These are the following: - 1878 Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement This agreement highlights the Sultanate of Sulu’s surrender of sovereignty to Spain. This means that anything happens whether internal or external affairs is under Spanish jurisdiction. - Article III of the Madrid Protocol of 1885 The Madrid Protocol of 1885 was an agreement between the United Kingdom, Germany, and Spain to recognise Spain’s rule over the Sulu Archipelago. There is a particular statement within Article III which states that Spain will relinquish all of their claims on Borneo. This alongside with the 1878 Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement as stated previously shows that the Sultanate of Sulu now no longer have any jurisdiction over North Borneo (Sabah). This also means that North Borneo (Sabah) is now under complete British jurisdiction. - 1903 Confirmation of Cession This agreement was signed between the Sultanate of Sulu and the British North Borneo Company (BNBC) in which it states that the Sultanate of Sulu will grant and cede North Borneo (Sabah) as well as additional islands which is how the payment of 5,000 Mexican gold coins which at this point has switched entirely to the Malayan dollar increased to 5,300 Malayan dollars. - 1915 Carpenter Agreement This agreement was signed between the Sultanate of Sulu and the United States. Within this agreement it states that any power that the Sultan of Sulu has over his land has been given to the Philippines which is under American-rule. -1930 Anglo-US Border Convention This agreement was signed between the United States and the United Kingdom. This agrement also define the border of North Borneo (Sabah) and the Philippines with the agreement being that North Borneo (Sabah) will remain under British jurisdiction and the Philippines being under American jurisdiction. -1963 Malaysia Agreement Finally this agreement was signed between the United Kingdom, Malaya, Singapore, Sarawak, and North Borneo (Sabah) to form a new country now known as Malaysia. Now that North Borneo (Sabah) has gained it’s independence from the UK, they opted to join this agreement and with the previous agreements signed, it means that North Borneo (Sabah) now have self-determination. And with the UK approving this agreement under the Malaysia Act of 1963 which has been passed in the British Parliament. This agreement has also been recognised by the United Nations and agreed on by the UN General Assembly and the UN Secretary-General himself. This means that Sabah is now rightful Malaysian territory. With all of these facts in place, it’s clear that Sabah rightfully belongs to Malaysia and neither the Philippines nor Sulu have any legal claims over Sabah.

[@claudyclaret6664]

It's not about the Philippines dropping the claim of sabah but a sultan heirs rights to owned posses the rightfully theirs.

[@dannybarcenas9701]

That's the reason why the Madrid arbitration ruled in favor of the Sulu Sultanate.. The original Lease contract between Sulu Sultanate & Baron Overbeck which he later transferred to Alfred Dent then transferred to the British North Borneo company.. The BNB Company ceding Sabah to British Crown does not terminate the binding contract of the leased property Sabah.. It must still be honored by whosoever succeeds the property.. And the very reason why Malaysia continued to pay the Rent of Lease obligation until 2013...

[@pengpaguio7983]

Philippines Bravo 🇵🇭💕👏👏👏👏👍👍

[@christopheraquinoarado3949]

LABAN PILIPINAS❤️❤️❤️🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭

[@christopheraquinoarado3949]

GOD BLESS THE PHILIPPINES😇😇😇🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭

[@googlerwunn7344]

The issues here is all about the 1963 newly formed Federation of Malaysia who wants to take back Sabah what is donated by the King of North Borneo as a gesture of appreciation to the Sultanate of Sulu for his timely assistance to the kingdom when threatened by the foreign invaders. So, what is given centuries ago cannot be taken back by the newly formed government of Malaysia especially if it was handed over to them by the North Borneo Oil Company, a private entity, who turned out as a tenant or a renter only of the Sultanate of Sulu. As a matter of fact, the lease contract was well documented.

[@johnmichel6208]

I think we were released by the queen as a country, not someone's land.

[@Simba_LJ917]

@@johnmichel6208 you get freedom from silver platter, not by fighting with your own blood & sweat & tears. what a weak nation Malaysia must be.

[@johnmichel6208]

@@Simba_LJ917 explain how you guys got conquered by the spanish and americans. And explain why the Isis in Philippines still isn't stopped. Almost every common wealth colony (old colony of britain) was given independence by agreement except for America.

[@C.I.MSossa]

but it is someones land its our land.

[@andraputraanuar6672]

@@johnmichel6208 bulleyes... Nice

[@chocofield]

Bravo sec. Harry Roque. Kudos to you

[@lionfred100]

as long as sabah disputes isnt settled the torn will always be there between philippines and malaysia relations

[@giovannivicente7462]

Lets make war to malaysia.

[@s3kosas917]

Don't think we will back off.We sure will brown out you.

[@C.I.MSossa]

@@s3kosas917 ye say that to us nextyear

[@dannybarcenas9701]

There is always an arbitration court where civilized people can settle issues peacefully

[@Unknownuser1077-8oa]

guys! This is 8 years ago, Are we supposed to fight against malaysia for sabah is like pakistani wants to fight against india for Kashmir? Plz, Philippines and Malaysia should peace agreement now, because we're not barbaric people who are against each other, let sabah go

[@dannybarcenas9701]

Nobody is going to War with nobody because of something like this

[@rollie59]

Sabah needs to go back to the owner- Sultanate of Sulu- under the Philippine Government, if Malaysia stops their rent payment of the property that they rented since 2013. So to avoid disputes, let the United Nations put the issue under consideration to solve the problem in due time. International Law of ownership must be followed.

[@matilham8746]

Give independent to Mindanao....Philiphinese is colonial

[@randyalmazar3449]

indonesia is a good friend of are country

[@sharr1538]

LOL reading the comment about this is hilarious. Y'all can yip yap about who own who but the real owner is the people that are born and bred in Sabah. We have the voice on who we want to be. And honestly, Malaysia is great. I don't know ANYONE here that want to be part of the Philippines.

[@alfonsocuid6935]

They aren't intruder they are the legit owner of sabah but Malaysian are thickening thier faces to own sabah???

[@johnmichel6208]

They "used" to own sabah, but we were released by the queen as a country. Sorry

[@andraputraanuar6672]

U just came out from cave?

[@alejandromata5120]

lee jones giving unbrella for malaysian .

[@giovannivicente7462]

Very obvious.

[@christianalfaro2724]

Obviously

[@unclekim1945]

Sabah 🇵🇭

[@remmyjunior007]

Keep dreaming

[@thangjalani4777]

To my tausug brothers and sisters don't worry be happy our almighty has everything..."Innalillahi wa inaa ilaihi rajiun"..

[@willycubelo9783]

I am 15 years in military service ( Phil Army) I volunteer to serve to the Sultanate of Sulu to serve for Sabah.

[@syakirshahridan5831]

Not to be disrespectful but Malaysia manages better than Philippines economically Never have i heard any of my Sabahan friends wanting to be part of Philippines 😂

[@fernandocruz4877]

The British has a hand on this. When the British left the proper way to do was to gave back North Borneo (Sabah) to its rightful owner the Sultanate of Sulu. What right had the British to gave it to their poodle, Malaya! The land was only leased to the British (BNBC) by the Sultanate of Sulu.

[@3idontknow3]

Free Mindanao, Sabah and Palawan

[@andilouis8770]

@Malayan Nationalist So. Do you want blood?

[@hackieagoncillo1577]

Hey James, the funding on arms with the rebel groups backfired on tourism in North Borneo. If you did not grab the Sulu Sultanate land of North Borneo in 1963 you should have not got into this. In the next 20 years you should see the land ceded to the Sultanate.

[@mdnorbador9438]

No proof of 'funding on arms'. Sabahan remain as Malaysian. Sorry Ps: We're not supporting any terrorist, that such a huge accusation on Malaysia, watch Lahad Datu documentary. That is how WE with terrorist a.k.a no compromise. We send jet though.... Nah, don't you dare... That's a huge warning to those terrorist try making issue at Sabah. Or sultanate?

[@killer3000ad]

Keep dreaming kid.

[@fernandonolla5254]

dapat naman talaga ibalik nila yan kasi para sa mga filipino yan, must follow the land lease agreement

[@Paopao621]

weird, this was 9 years ago and its being reccomended.

[@xXxSkyViperxXx]

of course, because sultanate of sulu actually won the arbitration ruling for this case recently. the payments they stopped making last 2013 are now haunting them now 2022. the payments have ballooned many fold now.

[@peoplehertstv]

Sabah Philippines 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭

[@Lans888]

apparently, that British commentator has limited knowledge of our history

[@giovannivicente7462]

Or as biased as it may seem

[@mindfreak001009]

@@giovannivicente7462 definitely biased because his own kind.. make this mess!

[@lopezahus3117]

Your right the british should know sultan of sulu are come from johor(malaysia) 😆😆😆😆😆😆

[@Lans888]

@@lopezahus3117 Relatives include the Sultan of Brunei if that's what u mean. Just like the British royals are related to all European monarchs.

[@ArmanJCRey]

Correct!

[@faes3955]

Moving forward : 1)Phillipines and Malaysia should respond in a peaceful way. Philippines and Malaysia will not be like a war torn Ukraine or Syria...We don't want war in this pandemic...we don't want fatherless homes... Politicians please CHOOSE PEACE ❤️🇵🇭🙏🏻🇲🇾❤️ 2) Sabah people will need to chose if they want to be part of Philippines or not. We need to consider people's lives dramatically changed because of this arbitration award to Sultanate of Sulu. Also, greatly take it to consideration the ''Heirs'' who waited more than a century to claim what is rigthfully theirs. 3. The undocumented Filipinos IN Sabah will now have their birth certificates and be recognized as citizens of the Philippines. 4. Malaysians should have some dignity to give the Sabah peacefully, they have been enjoying the fat of the land and just paying '' lease'' not ''cession'' money. 5. Malaysia needs to obey the law and Pay the 14.92 Billion dollars or it will increase all the more if keep on delaying. Justice🎉

[@Amin-fp1gv]

In my view, if the Philippine government recognizes the Sulu government as a sovereign government, logically, the Sulu government has the right to claim and establish its own government in the south of the Philippines. Therefore, the philippines had to hand over their land in the south of the philippines to the sulu kingdom as a new country. From Malaysia's point of view, Malaysia does not recognize the Sulu kingdom and its heirs because in the original agreement the Sulu sultanate had surrendered all its sovereignty in Sabah to the British before the existence of Malaysia. In the agreement, sultan sulu will not claim and absolutely hand over power to Sabah with the promised compensation. Even the term 'lease' has been dropped and in total Sulu has no rights over Sabah. However, in 2013, Sulu heirs violated the agreement by claiming Sabah and started a military attack on Sabah. Therefore, the Malaysian government has the right to stop the payment because Sulu has violated the agreement. This military action has challenged the agreement and violated Malaysia's sovereign boundaries. Malaysia still adheres to ASEAN principles and can still be diplomatic. But when it comes to sovereignty, Malaysia will not compromise. Don't let Malaysia take the approach of treating the Philippines as 'persona non grata'

[@nasigoreng5791]

Ironic every single of Sabah people don't even wan to philiphine... Sabah people is malaysian people and speak Malaysian....

[@benignobandalanagbayani5255]

THE MALAYSIAN LEASERSHIP SHOULD ABIDE BY THE INTERNATIONAL LAW AGREED AS LEGAL DOCUMENTS SHOWS OTHERWISE TROUBLE BETWEEN THE TWO NATIONS MIGHT BRING OUT TROUBLE!

[@honeymateo348]

Watching here after hearing the current news about Sabah

[@KalikasanPH]

Sabah is our territory🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭

[@themalaysianpatriot3099]

No it isn’t.