Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Achilles Part 1

Nicholas Moran continues his tour of real combat vehicles. This time, he'll be exploring the Achilles-the British modification of the American M10 tank destroyer. Find the answers to questions like: Why did its gun have to be replaced? What is peculiar about its armour? What design drawback does it have? Plus many more questions in the new episode of the "Inside the Chieftain's Hatch." Happy viewing!
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[@Pandamaniaaa]

I love how The Chieftain takes the time to have detailed discussions about the tank in the comments. Very nice of him to do that for the fans.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

+clonezeldarmy You're welcome

[@noquarter1037]

I do like the information of all the little details; It can get a little blah, blah, blah at times, but I'm learning a lot; More than I did when I was a tank driver in the Army.

[@hongtse6723]

0:39 poor driver lol xD

[@pixelater4943]

Eat mud. Litterly

[@poopoopaper1104]

And at 32 seconds he is bumping his head on the front of the turret

[@timecraft999]

Looool

[@Jesses001]

+Hong Tse I hope it was at least a warm day.

[@hongtse6723]

Jesse Sisolack hope so too

[@Psiberzerker]

8:10 Being harder to climb up on is really a disadvantage when you're trying to climb up to your own, open topped turret. When the enemy infantry is trying to get up there, it might be a bit of an advantage. However, this is an open-field gun, rolling with the heavy armor. (I.E. not a good Urban Assault Gun for obvious reasons: Buildings, with roofs, and possibly upper floors.)

[@Radzaification]

Awesome to see a video of the Achilles pop up. My grandfather drove one in the war and got lucky a few times in it!

[@Train115]

there's one t95 in the world. if you can find where it is and do inside the chieftain hatch. please do it. I want to know the inside of it.

[@TheCarDemotic]

Train It’s in Fort Benning Georgia. They are building a museum there.

[@hansmueller3029]

It was at Knox when the Armor school was there

[@Train115]

@@hansmueller3029 my original comment is 4 years old, I was 11 when I sent it lol. If you go to Sofilein's channel you'll find a few videos on the T28

[@hansmueller3029]

@@Train115 wow. Yeah there is still the awesome Patton museum in Ft. Knox Kentucky. Several great AFVs and tanks. When I was 11 my dad had a small trucking company and had government contracts. We were able to get behind the scenes at many secure places on military bases. Knox was 1. They had a lot full of foreign tanks they used for study like penetration testing and identification for tankers Then they used them for targets. I've sat on and in some amazing vehicles. Fun story- he hauled a Mercury space capsule from Johnson Space Center to a museum that was being built It stayed in his warehouse for a year and I played in that thing the whole time. Very cool childhood being around all the military people, vehicles and gear. Thanks for the channel tip. If you can get to Benning you gotta see the 28. Its amazing.

[@dmorrison7774]

The engines were lc and la for clockwise and anti-clockwise rotation of the crankshaft. The 71 series engines could be produced In either variant by changing the cam, starter p, oil pump and if i am not mistaken the crank and supercharger blower but all other part# were the same (block, pistons, heads, etc). If you have two crankshafts outputting to gears engaging with a common flywheel, they need to have opposite rotations.

[@ravenouself4181]

to add to this: if the connection between the crankshafts and the common flywheel is a simple cog system, the engines would indeed have to have opposite rotations. if it is a more complex cog system, or a chain/belt system, the engines wouldn't need to have opposite rotations. the advantages of the former are that it is more reliable as there is less parts and the power transfer is more direct, the disadvantages are that there are 2 types of engines and 2 sets of parts. the advantages of the latter is that there is 1 engine type and 1 set of parts. the disatvantages are that it's less reliable due to the number of parts and that the power transfer is not as direct.

[@spamuraigranatabru1149]

American tank. Modified by British. Bought by Israel then modified. Bought by museum and painted American colours.

[@yarus5889]

It all comes full circle

[@hoodoo2001]

Only that it was NEVER a tank.

[@spotfleri5779]

@@hoodoo2001 Too bad that it is a TANK

[@SportbikerNZ]

@@spotfleri5779 hoodpp2001 is quite correct. This is a tank destroyer, not a tank. A common mistake.

[@CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl]

@@SportbikerNZ Some people just don't appreciate that for mobile warfare you need to put an AT device on tracks. Nowadays they use an APC for the role.

[@prjndigo]

A simple thing to keep in mind about the 18" wall. For all practical applications outside of other tanks you're in a tank, you can blow it up. She had the clearance for running across railroad tracks.

[@armadussteel2489]

My great grandfather was an infantry unit during WWII and he once told me a story of when he once saw a Achilles MK-I slam into a M4 A1 Sherman he told me that he had no idea what was going on but he said that the crews in both tanks had a small brawl and were in some serious trouble. There are many more details but that's the basic's.

[@U6kCtBuN]

then both the drivers were punished to listen to the abhorrent music loop for approximately 60 minutes

[@Ghost12973N]

The M10 is one of my favorites in the game, I haven't tried the achilles yet. 1:00 that was pretty cool to see the shock wave coming from the gun.

[@donovanburkhard]

my love for Chieftain may have sparked only recently but it grows by the minute

[@neilwilson5785]

Love these old classics. Well worth another view.

[@JoeDurobot]

*The non-stop music is really annoying.* *Why have music on top of someone talking???*

[@johanmetreus1268]

Been asking myself that as well, especially when there are far more interesting sounds from the tanks themselves... but it is a sickness here on youtube, have a hard time finding any good tank-clips not ruined by utterly pointless "music".

[@ericreyes9747]

JoeDurobot I don't really mind it but what do I know

[@jonathann2093]

Trust me the video would seem really dull without the music

[@johanmetreus1268]

Not really, check out the videos with lindybeige. No music whatsoever, yet both highly entertaining and very informative.

[@GamaGamer1]

yes something about his dull British commentary is wildly entertaining

[@adioperta1451]

I adore this tank in the game

[@GARDENER42]

Reference the engines labelled LC & LA. C is for clockwise & A is for anticlockwise, as they were contra-rotating & thus would have mirror image cams & other parts that weren't interchangeable.

[@MotorStorm]

Finally chieftank is back !

[@johnplayer3093]

I don't think anyone in the 40s assumed that teenagers in 2018 would be obsessed with AFVs. WoT is one of very few games that successfully incite learning history, it's impressive

[@f12mnb]

Great series - but please lose the music track!

[@TheDaltonius]

I actually quite like the music but it’s too loud

[@kriszuraw2255]

Why

[@announcerspeakerboxbfdi4966]

I like it cuz its nistolgic

[@tyrbollwark2741]

Thanks for the Video, I love watching the series.

[@gabrielm.942]

The French m10 premium is amazing, probably one of my favorite t5s.

[@AmazingAce]

9:57 Little Joe was also the nickname of the generator that could power the turret and electronics when the engine was off in M5A1 Stuarts. Confusing.

[@CallanElliott]

By all accounts, I've heard about three different things referred to as 'Little Joe' in this series.

[@ficklefingeroffate]

Lose the background music track, unnecessary, distracting and mighty annoying.

[@shishkabob984]

lol someone told them this for ever video they made since like 2013... but they never changed, rip

[@shishkabob984]

@Funk Enstein yeah dude lol i remember posting on the world of tanks forums back when they started making these videos and that was one of the first comments... sigh

[@drakevandiver340]

Henry Cornell just another reason war thunder is superior

[@squirrele.1266]

Shut up

[@johnjacobsen1915]

also the irritating graphics flashing after every topic change

[@downsyndromehitler5697]

The background music is diabolical

[@neilwilson5785]

Thanks for your kind advice, Mr Downsyndrome Hitler. I can always rely on you for emotional support, lol.

[@Ralphieboy]

AND TOO LOUD!!!

[@hodgymac]

A

[@paulmills3418]

He had trouble with getting up on it he should try that new invention called a ladder

[@Corry-be4kz]

Hey now! I love it.

[@MazdA8896]

i like the other guy who does these inside of a tank videos too, but once you get used to the way this guy talks he's way better

[@pixelbucket8884]

The Achilles' achille's heel is the entire tank.

[@timecraft999]

Haha

[@qcklu]

+PixelBucket The Herobrine Hunter the entire tank, except the counter weights on the turret

[@hanfpeter3742]

PixelBucket {Razor The Fox} achilles achilles heel is his achilles heel.

[@GARDENER42]

Except it's not a tank...

[@hoodoo2001]

Not a TANK, goofy. It never was a tank.

[@plmkoo6772]

0:40 poor dude outside the tank.

[@techmaniac43]

plmküü is a TD no a tank........

[@juliet_whiskey6625]

Bloody late comment but never mind. My father was a heavy diesel mechanic for decades. Apparently, the old 2-stroke Detroit diesels (GM’s diesel division until about the late 90s) that he used to work on and drive were capable of running both clockwise and counterclockwise and parts had to be ordered accordingly. I suspect that it’s entirely likely that one engine ran one direction and the other the opposite, either both crankshaft spinning towards the center or both spinning outboard. For. Reasons. Just a thought.

[@macbeth2354]

Finally another episode!

[@melvinsolid9980]

he looks so done with his job

[@MisteriosGloriosos922]

*Thanks for informative video!!!. Liked&Subcribed!!!*

[@dominic6634]

Lexington Nebraska heartland museum has some nice military vehicles. Slot of stuff was decommissioned there.

[@mr.fluffycheks6400]

0:39 that person must be soaked and muddy XD

[@rhodes70]

Best video series you have put out

[@johnturnbull5971]

if you look at the heads on the engine both manifolds are on the inside which means the left engine rotated the opposite direction of the right at least that's what my grandpa said who was a crew member on one

[@johnturnbull5971]

hence the lc and la engine designations

[@Emtbtoday]

Bloody hell was that superman spinning that turret haha!

[@deejayimm]

I don't know what that is at 3:18, but it had me convinced someone was knocking on my door at 4am...

[@mikeking7470]

Achilles was a Greek hero with a very big flaw in his invulnerability, what a jinx name!

[@Trve_Kvlt]

The M36 Jackson/Slugger would be cool to see.

[@khowland7892]

Found it interesting that The Red army received no more than 52 M10 Wolverine TD's. All through the Lend/Lease Program!. They were attached to the 3rd. Byelorussian Front/5th Guards Tank Army/29th. Tank Corps/1223rd S.P.A.R. Artillery Regiment. Equip with the 76mm M7 gun and a 12.7mm Browning HMG. "see Allied tanks of WWII- By David Porter". Interesting historical note is that Audie Murphy was issued the Medal of Honor for Battle of Colmar Pocket, in a burning Wolverine. Using the 12.7 Mg to rip apart the advancing German infantry, halting there advance.

[@CurvedSlightly]

"I also carry a leatherman and therefore I'm so military."

[@gregorsimons3454]

I'd love to see a video about the M18 Hellcat. A great tank destroyer. Do you have plans for such a video?

[@Bochi42]

Achilles is a great name really. I mean it had a great gun but a fatal weakness in the the thin armor and open top.

[@TheLookingOne]

In one of the best war comedy movies, Kelly's Heroes, there is a character 'Little Joe'. There was also 'Big Joe'. Was 'Little Joe' a reference to the tank wrench?

[@exactinmidget92]

about time we get a new video.

[@roberttalarsky4238]

I can remember when I was young my Uncle showed me pictures of HIM in one of those. Might be the rine

[@chrisyunge8569]

That music i believe is on my janes flight sim, or my usa f16 flight sim, many a bombing or rocket run have i made, i fondly remember my thud dropping ordinance for the jolly greens, great memories.😎

[@jetgold]

yes make inside the tanks video, all ways loaded with good information his videos are.

[@thomasburke7995]

If you head over to bus greasemonkey .. these engines GMC diesel engines were used on the greyhound silver side busses of the era.. sturdy and reliable.. and super simple to repair.

[@Christian---]

Finally Chieftain!

[@fishua5564]

I am guessing LC was clockwise and LA is Anti- clockwise... Watching this again after years... it's still good

[@glord49]

The "Chieftain`s" videos are so much better then Richard "The Challenger" Cutland.

[@seanmacuaiteir437]

I know its so annoying that challenger gets bovington. his tog vid showed NOTHING of the inside exept into the hatch. no view of the engine deck....

[@cnschu]

at 13:08 as i see it, the "3 ports for diesel, oil and water" you describe seem to be the 3 intake-air-filters (one for 2 of the 6 cylinders).

[@USAAmutual45]

Can you give any details on the applique armor used by the British? Zaloga is of the opinion the amour kits were never actually made, I wonder if they were "official" kits, or spare armored welded on in the field.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

+Nathan Neff They were definitely made, as photos exist of some vehicles in the field with it. Plus one monument still exists. i.imgur.com/hfU9BrF.jpg

[@USAAmutual45]

+TheChieftainWoT Thank you. Interesting.

[@hawssie1]

If I remember correctly on the inline Gm diesel engines( aka Detroit Diesel) .the LC and LA codes designate their arrangement and rotation. The "L" means left hand rotation, and the A and C has to do with what side the intake and exhaust systems are located.(among other things) The Gm 2 strokes were very well designed and versatile and had a long and fruitful existence., and millions are still in use around the world today. But D.D. is now owned by Daimler Benz. Most parts do exchange between the different orientations in the same series and were every bit as universal and exchangeable as the famous small block was, but because of the numerous orientations, some parts end up being mirror images of each other thus are not interchangeable. In a side by side tandem drive situation like this you would normally have the blower and the exhaust on the the outboard side allowing for a closer pairing of the 2 engines.

[@bradcampbell7253]

Needs a twin turbo mod for hauling ass in battle

[@CurvedSlightly]

"I play tank games and know everything bout tanks..."

[@danielwalker8142]

thanks for the great content

[@JudsonHall]

LA / LC ... Looking at the valve springs they are counter-rotating ...

[@zee_6801]

wow i didnt know the left engine of the achiles had a 17pdr gun :P

[@andrewmatters5436]

At 14:10 into the video he expresses confusion as to why the two engines were labelled LC and LA. Looking at the handed nature of the pair I would have thought that C stands for Clockwise and A for Anticlockwise, meaning that the engines rotate in opposite directions. Many of the engine parts would have to be different because of this. Just a thought...

[@f12mnb]

I wonder if the vehicle markings (mix of US Army style on a British vehicle) reflects sometime in the past this vehicle was repaired, recovered or otherwise separated from its original unit and got reprocessed or in some postwar era, someone tried to paint it a war time look and didn't realized that it was a convert.

[@rickstilley5301]

Not certain who decided to label a British TD as American but they did no research. The 601 TD was never part of the 5th Armored. The 628TD served as the organic tank destroyer battalion for the 5th Armored. As far as I know (might be wrong but don't think so), the 601st was assigned to Infantry Divisions throughout the war.

[@micheal6898]

The 90mm gunwas not better than the 17pounder at destroying tanks

[@jac627]

Yeah, for some reason he always disses the 17pounder when nearly everyone else I hear seems to think the 17pounder was the best anti tank gun of the war.

[@r.j.dunnill1465]

It was with the improved ammunition.

[@nonyabeeznuss304]

an old M10 hull is on a bombing and missile range out in the far reaches of 29 palms. I blew it up a few times. Theres not a lot left of it. Theres a lot of unappreciated relics being used as targetry :(

[@TheCarDemotic]

Where?

[@justforever96]

Isnt "Little Joe" also what they call the auxiliary generator motor? Thats confusing. And didn't all armor in Normandy get at least one white star in a circle painted on the turret roof as an aerial recognition symbol to help Allied fighter bombers from mistaking them for panzers? The M10 has no roof, which might explain the star on the sides. Or maybe they just screwed it up. All I know is that I built a model M4 Medium years ago, and it had British markings and a star on the roof. I am pretty sure I put the decals on per the instructions, and I seem to recall reading that explanation at the time. It wasnt just an American marking, it was the easiest, most visible Allied marking they could think of. EDit: From Wiki: *Allied star* A five-pointed star, painted white, was used to identify Allied vehicles from 1944. British tanks rarely had stars on the front or sides, normally just one on the rear of the turret. AFVs often carried stars on the sides and rear. Softskins normally carried stars on their sides. The star was normally 8-12in and was stencilled with a point upwards. So stars isnt always American markings, although it may be in this case. I thought the circle was the main difference.

[@p47thunderbolt68]

Like to see these guns compared and explained .

[@DIDYOUSEETHAT172]

ARRRRRRGGGGGGG!!!!! Background music pounding at brain. Disorientation! Aggravating beyond human tolerance! MUST ---- LEAVE ---- UNFINISHED ----- CAN'T WATCH ----- MUST LEAVE NOWWWWWWWW!!!

[@theamericanfarmer6223]

do the Shermans

[@bobthompson4319]

I wonder how hot little one got sitting by the exhaust!!!! Sounds like a good way to get burnt. Wonder if you get a purple heart jk. A recruiter told me they called them an enemy marksmanship badge lol.

[@aleemsmith9507]

That guy got a mouthful of muddy water when driving into that puddle

[@scottdaviesvk2sdx319]

A bit late to add this, but the reason why the engines were labelled differently is the intake and exhaust are reversed on one.

[@parkerguy3601]

Yes, These Detroit Diesels rotate in opposite directions.

[@myfavoritemartian1]

Nick: Those look to be left and right hand engines. Maybe so they can nest tightly together? (Thus the "LC" and "LA" designations)

[@jld772]

I'm guessing clockwise and anti clockwise.

[@stormy9196]

wish hed review that … I think archer? the brit TD that faces backwards

[@GeorgiaBoy1961]

@ Storm Morgan: Yes, you have it right: The Archer tank destroyer was build on the chassis of the Valentine infantry tank chassis, mounting an Ordnance QF 17-pounder gun firing rearwards back over the engine compartment. It was well-liked by its crews, being of low silhouette and packing a punch.

[@lotusdev]

I'm sure this has been said before but : It might be an idea to specify US or British gallons - there's a big difference. Like, uk gallon is some 18% bigger

[@bobthompson4319]

I bet a good crew would have the driver help the gunner turn the turret by turning the vehicle and also keeping the glasius to the front.

[@gatall91]

I wonder why the turret has that lip at the back of the turret. Counter balance?

[@the250minecraft]

Looks like storage

[@the250minecraft]

And that

[@riftandrend5254]

+GetRekt Gaming Yeah, he covered that at the end.

[@HydroSnips]

Counterweight, yeah - he says it close to the end.

[@gregoryheim9781]

You didn't mention that the engines turned clockwise & anticlockwise. LC & LA...?

[@AussieStandsWithRussia]

Can you explain why the sides look the way they do?

[@joeroberts9502]

@14.12 You have two engines and certain parts wear differently inside an engine. Therefore they're not identical. For example, if you had to strip the heads down on both motors, you'd need to know which push rods came from which motor and from which cylinder. They'd have the left or right motor marked on them for that reason and you'd lay them out so and even push them in a line through a bit of cardboard so you'd know which cylinder they came from. It's a bit like a self loading rifle, you can't just put another breech block in it because every rifle breech block wears in differently, even where the rifles are all the same model so if you need to replace one you have to machine it first. Similarly you can't just put the push rods (and other bits) in a motor back in any old order you like or you could end up with a real mess on your hands.

[@Evilroco]

True ,I wondered if they rotated in opposite directions hence c (clockwise) and a (anticlockwise) ?

[@numberpirate]

That engine config is crazy, two diesel engines smacked together with a common crank output. Looking at it I thought he must be wrong and it must be a V-12 since you can see the valve train in two rows of 6, but upon looking it up it actually does have two vertical I-6s. Another weird thing is the lack of a valve cover. You usually do not see all the valve work for an engine sitting on top, unprotected like that.

[@numberpirate]

And the LC and LA prefix for parts would be because they are mirror images of each other but rotate in the same direction opposite of aero engines that are not mirrored but rotate in opposite directions.

[@MrOlgrumpy]

The engines rotate opposite to each other,valve covers are removed in this shot,

[@akmzd6938]

Many armoured vehicles of the time had two engines more or less separately. The Churchill's flat-12 was two engines put together, the Matilda II and Chaffee had twin engines - and the Australian Sentinel ran on three engines feeding a shared gearbox.

[@aewhatever]

I'm trying to look it up. Oh I am seeing it is that a 17 pounder is a 3 inch 76.2 cannon.

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

At about 00:40 in this video: *Don't forget to hold your breath!* 😊😊😊

[@stevestandley5571]

One quarter (about 6.4mm) of an inch steel is not going to stop a 50 BMG round. Even basic 50 BMG ball ammo will penetrate more than 10mm of rolled homogeneous armor.

[@michaelmace9257]

I bet that thing was freezing cold to be in during the winter months

[@RTFLDGR]

Why do they have the rocker arm covers off that diesel? no way. Those rockers remain exposed during operation?!

[@yuanxinwang8219]

I got so confused when the title said achilles when I saw it as the m10 wolverine

[@emberfist8347]

I would honestly to know who thought naming a tank destroyer Achilles given the prominence of the term Achilles Hell it is like naming a plane Icarus and being surprised when it crashes

[@andrewballard3316]

It's fine, Paris had already fallen when this was named.

[@rb67mustang]

17 Pounder, but what was the caliber/diameter of the projectile???

[@teaser6089]

76,2mm or 3 inches

[@okrajoe]

Why did the TD's have open top turrets (ok, probably in part 2).

[@kyle857]

okrajoe Saves on weight

[@CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl]

It is an anti tank gun on tracks. The probability of the first hit can't be underestimated.

[@teaser6089]

because it's just a self propelled anti tank gun, in British service it was used by the royal artillery corp, they liked the ability to see and observe

[@wulfleyn6498]

0:38 Driver got a face full of mud, lol.

[@Bucket_Boy101]

Is that engine missing its rocker covers?

[@calebn4399]

0:40 the poor driver!

[@bradcampbell7253]

What they should have done for us service: kick the turret. Give it proper hull armor thickness. Hull side skirt armor. And t23 76mm turret.

[@teaser6089]

no, this was a self propelled anti tank gun, not a tank

[@cursedmonkey1033]

Hi. Would mechanics do the maintenance he talked about or would the crew be expected to handle it?

[@Operator588]

How much POL does a abrams need for comparison?

[@SgtBones]

Anyone know if the engine seriously had no valve covers, or were these just removed to show more detail for this video?

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

+Sgt Bones They were removed. The two long thin panels happened to be off for maintenance at the time I was filming, and I decided to leave them off to show the engines.

[@SgtBones]

+TheChieftainWoT Thank you sir for that information. Oddly enough I had to look long and hard through the internet to find a decent picture of the valve covers, almost no footage shows the engines mounted in the vehicle itself, and all photos seemed to be of them in maintenance. I actually found a video of the same engine in a Higgins boat with the valve cover in place. But that was a boat, obviously! So again, thanks for the information. Keep up the good work! Hell on Wheels Sir!

[@Handles-Suck-YouTube]

+Sgt Bones I'd put that down to the general disinterest people have for the actual mechanical workings of the tank(s) in general. As Nicholas pointed out in his overview of the M56 Scorpion, people in general are more interested about the gun and combat history, so I suppose the more "niche" (for lack of a better term) interests are not really catared to in the same way, which is a bummer. I love learning everything I can about tanks, down to the nitty gritty. +TheChieftainWoT thanks for your stellar work!

[@SgtBones]

+Friendly Fire Gaming Agree with you completely there, I belong to the niche type of person ever since helping get a Chaffee back to running condition at Ft. Hood Texas, back in the 80's while serving in the Army. And as a model builder I do tend to be interested in more information than most folks when it comes to the interior and inner workings of armored vehicles. That is why I love watching these Chieftain videos, since he always tries to present as much information as possible.

[@Handles-Suck-YouTube]

Sgt Bones You lucky sod. Myself I'm from Sweden and have yet to serve with the army or have the opportunity to work on a military vehicle's restoration. But a man can dream, a man can dream...

[@stijnVDA1994]

World of tanks devs, you guys should try to work with the developers of tank Mechanic simulator since they have really cool tanks and you could send the tanks that are broken to tms to have them fixed to get it back into service or to the account that ownes that tank... Wich could be the same player maybe even not getting it back but putting it in their museum and have a tank from wot that already was placed in the museum to get that one back into battle

[@ts11-2poncealainwilliamp.8]

The background music isnt annoying. It makes the vid a bit more lively, few minutes in the vid ull get bored. It isnt even that loud :/

[@kingofhogwarts9499]

Were there actually M4s with the large Turret fitting a 17-pounder? That imagine that would have made on of the finest Tanks in ww2, especially the M4A3 with thr Hvss and a Ford V8.

[@chadjustice8560]

No there was not

[@TheCoffeehound]

Little Joe? Wasn't that the name of the tank driver in Kelly's Heroes?

[@BackUPDat]

+Coffeehound No, Little Joe was an infantry men in Kelly's Heroes.

[@randymagnum143]

If you have a 90mm gun, you can make a lot of walls shorter than 18".