Inside the Chieftain's Hatch ISU-152 Part 2

Part 2 of a two-part tour of ISU-152.
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[@TheLastPhoen1x]

"Some *killjoy* welded this shut so we can't go around shooting 6 inch rounds"

[@iandoodle]

I would love if you could start doing panoramic views of the inside of tanks so we can get a feel for the whole layout, i love getting to see exactly where everything is laid out and the different positions all at once.

[@Bochi42]

An 88 pound round. Man those Soviet tankers had to be tough as nails There's plenty to critique them and their training for though I can't help but admire the men who suffered and pushed it in those AFVs.

[@Jay-Bass]

6:16 - Enemy tractor spotted!

[@DerKrawallkeks]

Wonder if it could stand the canon...;) great video!!

[@panzerabwerkanone]

Russian tractor! Stonkest tractor in game!

[@soham6649]

"if you can't kill what you are aiming at with 20 rounds, it probably isn't your day"- the chieftain

[@petert9110]

But what if you have multiple oncoming targets? Then your fucked.

[@VekhGaming]

You're fucked anyways since they can probably reach you in the time it takes you to reload the gun.

[@thethirdman225]

@@VekhGaming The likelihood o this being used solo is nil. This was part of an organic system. It wasn't ever really used for solo work. That means plenty of support vehicles and personnel around it.

[@AKUJIVALDO]

@@thethirdman225 just because paper says something it doesn't mean it happened that way all the time...

[@thethirdman225]

@@AKUJIVALDO Good grief. Are you completely serious? Read a book FFS. Start with Alexander Hill's _"The Red Army in the Second World War"_ and find out how the Red Army operated. The likelihood of these things being used in anything other than an supported roll was effectively non-existent. By the time the ISU-152 arrived, the Red Army was operating as a large organic force. Mobile artillery was used to support infantry and tanks moving in support of that infantry. They weren't part of the advance party, any more than any other heavy artillery was.

[@Platinumsniper]

At 6:16, "Gunner, Tractor direct front, load HE, FIRE!!!!!"

[@orangejoe204]

Skystalker Was thinking exactly the same thing! hahaha Some poor farmer has no idea he's being peered at through the sights of an antique 152mm gun-howitzer.

[@machinenkanone9358]

You mean "load HEAT round" High energy anti tractor.

[@fulcrum2951]

HEAE High Explosive Anti Everything

[@epesamithe3rd]

Love the ending bloopers in the videos. :D

[@origamichik3n]

13:20 - WG announcement: "buff to historical 100 Km/H coming next patch".

[@pershing6116]

LOL

[@LilStoops]

And this is why I prefer WT over WoT. At least gaijin requires sikrit (sic) documents to justify their prejudices. WG just makes stuff up in an attempt to balance or attract players to underplayed factions at specific tiers.

[@johnd2058]

Just don't even think about turning.

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

@@LilStoops Eh, both games suck. These sekrit dokumentz dont make themselves up, after all.

[@chrisgeddes26]

Thank you for including the put takes. The tank demigod is human, and humorous!

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

As ever, a wonderfully detailed real life review. Now with epic out takes!

[@lafeelabriel]

Turned out to be more comfortable than I was expecting, apart from the driver's seat of course. Then again that 152mm needs a large amount of space to recoil, so they need to have plenty of space around it as well, so it makes sense. Another nice one Chief, looking forward to the next one:D

[@Lightning206]

keep at it chief I love these videos, it's always exciting learning something new about these vehicles :)

[@BigSwede7403]

Wait, the speedometer went up to 100? That seems a bit optimistic, even by Russian standards.

[@qwesx]

They probably had those still lying around from the BT tanks or just some mass-produced cars and just put em in there. Because why waste money and resources on tank-specific speedometers.

[@BigSwede7403]

Yeah, but on an assault gun why bother with a speedometer at all? Especialy an illogicaly placed one. That goes up to more than 1.5 times again the maximum speed.

[@TheNavalAviator]

It makes sense from a production point of view. They only have to build one type of speedometer that works for every vehicle.

[@timmyturner5952]

I stand corrected.

[@TheNavalAviator]

Timmy Turner 13:18 there it is.

[@kivitelezo]

Thank you for the review Mr Moran.

[@minibattleship]

Very useful videos for those of us who can not visit tank museums. Thank you.

[@raider6511]

Love those OUT TAKES, Please do more.

[@DtWolfwood]

o i do enjoy these videos very much. Thanks for the hard work Chief :D

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

I would strongly suggest that Wargaming puts together a video containing all the goofs the Chieftain managed to do in all the vehicles he's covered - they are priceless.

[@WindmillStalker]

Also, yay @ bloopers at the end. Always fun.

[@SpudsMcHaggis]

Cheers Chief for another great vid!

[@tedz10f]

Great video as always

[@32167BD]

Chief, I love your videos!

[@FireflyActual]

Love these vids Chief. Is there any chance we're going to get a blooper video? These are always entertaining. :-)

[@memikell]

Side note, there is on KZbin a Russian video of a small group of men bringing one of these guns back to life. The gun had been a monument gun in an overgrown field next to a large building and had been there so long it has sunk over a foot in the earth. You can see them cutting a hole on the underside of the gun (demilling?) after a lot of work they actually got the vehicle running and were able to drive it away. It would be nice to think that this is the same gun now safe in a museum and not cut up for scrap.

[@Klovaneer]

Gun and armor steel is so hard it's absolutely worthless as scrap, if someone restores a tank it's either for exhibition or actual use.

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

@@Klovaneer I doubt anybody would restore a metal object just to end up scrapping it.

[@thatwolffe3802]

I love these vids as always! but I still want to see a sturmtiger

[@Pac3steel]

The bloopers at the end made the video even better.

[@f86sabreman]

You really need to do one of these on the M4 Sherman!

[@scorpionlxvi]

I saw a will it start from Russia where a group of guys got a gate guard of one of these up and running they did it in a big cloud of smoke and engine roaring took them a bit to tear it loose from fourty years plus of foliedge but it was an incredible surprisingly fast machine

[@paoloviti6156]

Very interesting again as also I never saw what is inside! Real russian style ergonomics especially for the poor driver! It is not a recommended place for weak hearted people! I love that you have your own individual cushion pad and that you can carry it around! A luxury indeed! Looking very much for the next issue! I know that I'm a brat but I would love to see a Stug III someday!

[@chrisdel87]

Hey chief, great video! Have you tried to open that hatch without reading the manual? :-) Anyways, love the video hope you can make a video like the one with Pico mouse again!!

[@spadge4773]

Haha outtakes! That was great, more of the same please!

[@ulfpe]

In the beginning there is a warning for "mild violence" that has got to be the understatement of the century, thst thing was by no means mild.

[@falloutghoul1]

Track tension is your friend. :)

[@Strelnikov403]

I know this is an older video but maybe you'll see it anyway - what are the pros and cons of half-length torsion bars w/symmetrical wheel arrangements vs. full-length bars with offset wheels? Is there any practical difference, or is it simply a difference in design philosophy? I've read that half-length bars are more fragile but I'm not really sure why that is, a rotating shaft doesn't usually care how long it is because that isn't the axis along which the load is applied.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

I suspect it's a combination of how brittle and stiff the bar is compared to how much travel it will provide to the swing arm. The same type of metal at half the length can only twist half as much before it will break.

[@philhartman1501]

"Given some flax" because of the small ammunition capacity. Cute! Another nice video.

[@tonnywildweasel8138]

Love the beastslayer

[@georgesabitbol2137]

06:15 Loltraktor spotted !

[@MrGrompok]

Perhaps I missed it in video but where was radio?

[@Filipsssable]

I would like to see Pz III or Pz IV in chieftain hatch :)

[@margeolsen6657]

Love your channel keep them coming .One question I have, l notice the inside paint color is a dark gray were all Russian tanks painted this way inside and why not a light color like the Germans with ivory or white

[@reteip9]

Just in case you haven't found the answer to your question in these last 5 years: Standard interior colour for the fighting compartment of Soviet WW2 tanks was plain white. On the T-34 the floor would've been black (gray is post-war) and I suspect that black/gray floors were standard in other Soviet tanks as well.

[@NixodCreations]

I think it would be cool to see a Japanese tank next, we haven't seen any of those, and they are usually overlooked.

[@charlescsmith1213]

Because they're not much better than Bob Semple tanks

[@spencerw9784]

biggBOSS1991 they are much better than the Bob semple,

[@7249xxl]

The main thing these videos tought me is that armored vehicles are smaller then i anticipated and claustrophobic af.

[@ThroneOfBhaal]

Wouldn't even need the speedo anyway... 'Stopped' or 'Walking' are about all you'd need to know...

[@clearboardproductions503]

Do the is-2 heavy tank!

[@0123456789milan]

Love these videos, but they would be a lot better if he just slapped a gopro on his forehead, so we could actually see what he is doing inside the tank

[@charlesrichardson4032]

You need make some t shirts for us world of tanks first one track tension is your friend two would be don't leave depot with out your log . Great videos but the back ground music could use a buff

[@IWillReportYouToTheCops]

should take note on youtube videos and wiki for more upto date information on unmolested existing pieces

[@Terminus_4]

I'd imagine the gun has that much play as a result of being fired, It probibly had the same problem as the Jadgtiger, due to the massive gun if you failed to lock the gun traverse before moving any real distance could cause the sights to un-align and it would no longer be accuate, I imagine the ISU is that way as a result of continues fireing. Then again, it is a 6 inch gun and its probibly not that accurate to began with.

[@Kenjis9965]

Could be wrong but I believe the Russians would pack a few of these together and essentially go "Right that area over there needs to be made a bit more flat and on fire" and then well.. Yeah accuracy isnt necessary, You have a 152mm howitzer, anything you hit -near- is going to have a bad day..

[@fabiogalletti528]

guess it's not just a problem of accuracy. Having that mass of a cannon recoiling in a rattling mount doesn't look that good for the comerades inside.

[@ParkerDaiGames]

"Things before you want to go a little bit inside before it goes boom" hehhehhehhehheh

[@kpaasial]

2:47 Is it possible that the "play" in the gun is because the vehicle was transported improperly without a gun travel lock engaged? That would certainly wreck the gun supports pretty fast because the gun is so massive.

[@tyler_bt3326]

Kimmo Paasiala I think it's probably just build quality of a 70 year old soviet vehicle

[@joshuaworman4022]

and of course all i can think of is how loud is it inside when that 6 inch goes off...

[@charlescsmith1213]

Not nearly as loud as standing outside next to it....but still fairly loud

[@norwegianwiking]

can we get more bloopers

[@catattack1039]

So the clutch pedal was bent that explains it

[@DivineDawn]

track tension is your friend haha think hes speaking form experience n walking it off in mud and his loader and driver hating him

[@Suomipanzerdiv13]

I shudder at the thought of using that gearbox. O_o Today you would get a medal for getting it to work.

[@woongah]

The gear pattern is a "dog leg", like in many BMW "M" car (especially M3s)...

[@pizzagolfer]

Would the extra armor plate that the driver lowers, make a difference?

[@DrSid42]

It's there to protect the vision port from small arms fire. Not to protect from anti-tank weapons.

[@Lightning206]

exactly if a shell hit there your good as dead anyway, just for small arms only

[@homosapiensneanderthalensi5700]

"Zveroboi" killer of big german cats.

[@PureZOOKS]

Has he done an "Inside the KV2"?

[@simonc586]

Just checked, two still exist and both are somewhere in Russia.

[@foowashere]

Oh, KV-2, what a marvellous idea! Where do I sign the petition?!

[@sirboomsalot4902]

Only one real one exists, the other is a reproduction

[@kimepp2216]

He hasn't done a KV1 either.

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

@@kimepp2216 The only differience would be the turret....

[@WindmillStalker]

Speedo up to a 100. Bit optimistic, wouldn't you say? :)

[@LilStoops]

Not if Stalin orders it.

[@romanvonungern-sternberg813]

parallel parking in the city would be an absolute nightmare

[@stuartrmather]

Now l look like a clown. Redoing my math, its 88 pounds. So lets forget my 96 lbs and go with 88 is just over 80 (11%). Keep up the good work, it brings the human, flesh and blood of war to the forefront

[@thethirdman225]

Looking up the actual value, the shell was about 48 kg and traveled at about 650 m/sec.

[@SaltySeabisc]

"Part 1 of a two-part tour of ISU-152" Is that why its part 2 then Chief?

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Fixed :)

[@W1se0ldg33zer]

It has a lot of play because it wants a lot of play.

[@carlos89784]

Tanks crew weren't 6'4 tall. Having that in mind, must have been much more confortable to operate this assault tank than T-34.

[@Rambo55293]

A cushion in a Soviet tank!!!! What?????

[@bingrasm]

So this thing turns by pulling the sticks?!

[@60zeller]

Take a drink every time he mentions his height

[@petert9110]

The Chief : "If you can't kill what you are aiming at with 20 rounds . . ." But what if you have more than one oncoming targets? If you see one tank you must always assume there are others nearby. Evaluate & strategize.

[@thethirdman225]

Yes, I'm sure we can all think of some reason why this wouldn't work. But it did and it was invariably part of a large force with plenty of supporting vehicles.

[@mitchellhalvorson9719]

Well this was designed as an AT vehicle. More of a blow up your base tank

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

....Did you ignore the part where it's job is to destroy fortifications? The strategy here is to not send the slow firing assault gun where tanks are. Send other tanks instead.

[@TheSkipjack95]

Random Speedo placement is Random

[@HungQDang]

just as he said, the driver depend on the commander telling him where to go. lol

[@ThroneOfBhaal]

Ah a casemate, the genius solution to the turret tossing issue.

[@nathanmorrison8580]

what if the bob semple bunke cough, cough tank was the bunker

[@robloxiangamer3763]

Holy shit its not cramped in s soviet tank!!

[@robertbania6546]

To be honest with you I wouldn't want to be inside this beast in real fight , Kamikaze!!! And you are crazy mate ..

[@fukgoogole2]

this Assault gun was made give a King Tiger a very bad day

[@stuartrmather]

40 kilos----96 pounds Nick. You should freaking know that. I like your stuff and your style/ humour with some sandpaper dotted with small s sarcasm, basically if you hit me with idiocy, be prepared. Keep it up but Jeez 96 lbs. is not a touch over 80 its 20 % over 80.

[@spencerw9784]

Does it really fucking matter though?

[@thethirdman225]

The real weight was closer to 48 kg.

[@ray.shoesmith]

40kg is a touch over 88lbs

[@RememberingWW2]

The music completely takes me out of it...

[@jb613jb]

another episode of the host finds a way to tell you that he's tall. Maybe he'll do a series on tunnels next

[@bobthompson4319]

we need to get more smart about our vehicles. imagine if the Abrams tank did both the job of a tank and the job of self propelled artillery.

[@antonylowe9417]

100mph that’s optimistic

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

Did you just unironically imply the Soviets would be using that joke of a system known as the Imperial System?

[@jimm6095]

ISU/ISU 152 was created during 1943 to kill Tiger tanks and King tigers later! It's nickname in Red Army was "Animal killer" (panthers, tigers)

[@Klovaneer]

It was designed to level strongpoints in direct line of sight but SU-152 was the only soviet SPG able to kill german cats at Kursk (SU-85 weren't yet available) so it was pressed into anti-tank role same as the german anti-air 88mm two years ago.

[@Herbybandit]

Now you know why the Russians tried to recruit female drivers

[@DanielWW2]

In really don't see the merit of this vehicle at all. What the Soviets did was taking arguably there best artillery piece, the ML-20 and reduce its range by over halve and reduce the traverse to almost nothing. If you want to shotgun something from close range and you need to be able to take some hits then there is no reason why the M1943 D-1 152mm howitzer could not gave sufficed in this hull. Then you take the precious ML-20 barrels and you create even more Stavka artillery batteries equipped with ML-20 gun-howitsers to bombard the Germans at the beginning of a new offensive. Soviet assaults began with the customary artillery bombardment which mostly focused on the immediate frontline to about 2-3km deep into enemy positions. Further ML-20's and A-91 guns would shell identified enemy positions beyond the first line of resistance. That was a very important part of Soviet doctrine. Cutting communications, deny the enemy the possibility of withdraw or reinforcement and hit communications and if you can silence enemy batteries or destroy reserves behind the line. That helps a lot for a breakthrough. This vehicle just doesn't seem to fit in all that well into the doctrine. Normally the 76mm ZiS 3 would follow the infantry to destroy hard points from direct line of sight because Soviet artillerymethods where crude, to crude for indirect fire called in by frontline troops. It makes sense that you want something mobile and with a bigger punch to crack where the ZiS 3 or the Su-76M will fail. That extra firepower can be achieved by a D-1 howitser just as well, thus this thing is overkill. The German rough equivalent, the series of assault guns with the SiG 33 as its armament seem far more realistic and less wasteful than this. They do the same thing to targets as an ML-20 would do but they are much lighter pieces. Further there HE shell is just nasty in terms of HE filling. 8.3kg of Amatol with a 38kg shell is easily the highest filling of any 150-155mm HE of WW2 and as far as I know the only one to go beyond the 20% of the shellweight as filling. That matters since most WW2 era HE shells where not as effective as modern ones. Not enough explosives and thus to large fragements where smaller fragments could also kill. Smaller fragments means more fragments thus more killing per shell. Also more HE helps against field fortifications to break them open and render them useless.

[@tyler_bt3326]

DaniëlWW2 they probably had the most ML-20 howitzers. Soviet "doctrine" also said to essentially use what you have. If there's not enough of the other type you suggested for a production line they'd have to use it

[@mendez256]

Number of guns around pointed out by Tyler is correct. When the ISU-152 was put into production the Soviets had built over 6,000 ML-20s and had not built even 100 D-1s. And this ignores the SU-152s that this is based off which were being produced much earlier in 1943. They did try to put the D-1 in a tank chassis but in the T-34 chassis which proved not suited for the weight and the ISU-152 had already filled the role by then so why change what works?

[@thethirdman225]

I'm sorry but I see this comment as rather pointless. What you're saying, in effect, is that the gun was either too big or too small. The rest didn't really matter that much. The fact is that this vehicle was well enough integrated into the Red Army that it remained in service long after the war and was popular with both its crews and the units who depended on it. That is easy to determine. i see people all the time who say, "But the shell could not penetrate...blah, blah, blah." Yet none of that takes into account what the vehicle was used for or how successful it was. As a tank killer, it was quite effective. A 48 kg shall traveling at 650 m/sec has a cell of a lot of kinetic energy. In the case of a heavily armed tank, it probably didn't have to penetrate because the shock would kill the crew inside whatever it hit anyway. As an assault gun it was equally good. It could deploy in a city street very quickly and do the work needed in far less time than it would take a towed weapon, while offering better protection for the crew.