INSIDE THE MIND OF REN | Knox Hill & Ren - The Full Interview

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[@KnoxHill]

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[@FracturedParadigms]

Got it on now. Just about to hit the motor way on the way to Scotland. That's me sorted for the next hour or so. Thanks for inspiring me to get started reacting bro.

[@Dizle81]

Thanks for fixing the sound

[@sunilkachaliya5818]

Thank you doing this .love you knox hill and ren

[@sunilkachaliya5818]

NF REALMUSIC - what's my definition of success..creating something no one else's can

[@genevievebills5227]

Love that you mention Mike Skinner...that is exactly what I was hoping someone would ask Ren. To just be who you are and draw from your own experiences is such a fantastic way of making authentic art! Thanks to you both for embracing that and sharing your art with the rest of the world. This tough old bird has been through alot but also loves just having some fucking fun, sometimes, too 😂😂

[@RenMakesMusic]

Thanks so much for having me on brother! Was great chatting to you! Till next time

[@Dizle81]

This was legendary, thank you !!

[@ammogan]

Ren, every word you say makes me believe more and more, you and I have the same brain. I've never found another person like me before. You amaze me 😊 thank you for showing me I'm not alone 🥰

[@MarkoPiippola]

Thanks Ren, great interview and amazing musical journey. Take care...

[@gbeaner84]

💗 Love YOU Ren so happy you are alive and creating!

[@handsey22]

Can’t believe you missed the opportunity to tell Knox that he was “Ren Gill Certified”!!!

[@nopowerups]

"Sorry my mind might be a little foggy." Proceeds to give the most complex yet fully understandable, relatable and eye-opening answers to questions. Ren is easily my favorite artist and I can't wait to see what's ahead.

[@yarahdavid8697]

Exactly what I was thinking. Crikey what does he bring when he’s clear headed 🤯! Couldn’t love Ren more and yet his vulnerability with clear genius is 🔥 ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@YoreHistory]

100% hard agree

[@purplebongo27]

💜🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@SickBoiRENegade]

💯❤❤❤❤

[@aprilc1077]

I have never heard his music, but he's genius obviously. Seriously, and I'm a tough critic at 59 yrs old. I'm going to have to check it out. 🤣🤣🤣

[@grannymegrannyiam6886]

Beeing an old desillutioned woman ( I’m 73) listening to you two young men really make me belive in humanity again! Thank you both! For some reason I feel proud of you both! ❤️

[@MrBluegrouse]

Amazing conversation. They say “don’t meet your heroes”. But the more I hear Ren talk about his work and outlook on life, the more I learn about him and his life, the more I respect and admire him. Honestly think he can change the world.

[@patriciacloix71]

🙏💖👏👍

[@jimmyaustin9245]

Ren at the start: I’m on some new meds so excuse me if I sound like an idiot Ren for the next hour and a half: speaks more intellectually than most in this day and age and comes off as the most relatable and wholesome person ever

[@silasarpagaus3520]

i only noticed how he jumps from one story to another but that's exactly what I do too, so it's probably the ADHD

[@W3Ar3Th3Chang3]

Adhd has seen as a burden in this twisted system, spiritually its a gift🙏

[@LiamSeniorYT]

@@silasarpagaus3520 I spotted this, noticed that's why his camera i shaking because he cant sit still, completely relatable.

[@theragingviking9177]

@@W3Ar3Th3Chang3 Now that i understand it more when i am older i see it as a gift, it was very hard when i was young. But you are 100% right, if nurtured right, ADHD can open fantastic doors for people!

[@TheAlphamale215]

You know how many people pay to do the same shit ADHD does to your brain including surgeons js

[@cerianhawke8446]

REN. As a Welsh girl, I'm proud to claim you as ours. I'm hooked on your music and videos. obsessed with the lyrics. Thanks for sharing your talent with us all. Knox great interview. I'm a new fan of yours now! sending love to you both, keep up the good work. x

[@KnoxHill]

I appreciate you! 🙏🙌

[@helenHTID]

I didn't know he was from Wales until recently lol. He came to Bath in England around 2008/9, Then to London, Then he moved to Brighton in 2013.. Which is where I met him busking with his band/buddies. Now I know, If you listen carefully you can hear a welsh twinge here n there in his accent.. But it's quite far removed since he's spent so much time in England. It's a mix of South coast and West country with a splash of Welsh 😂

[@Skittenmeow]

​@@helenHTIDI remember one of my Welsh friends saying that the Welsh accent and Aussie accent also very easily soak in other accents... they quite easily take on hints of everywhere we've stayed, and every person important in our lives. I've always been asked where my accent is from, and people struggle to believe I've spent the vast majority of my life in Australia...as have both my parents and 3 of my grandparents. But I've had good friends from many countries, so maybe why I get "are you English? Scottish? Canadian? European? Welsh?? Irish...umm Scandinavia somewhere??" 😅 Problem is my other siblings get the same, despite having very different friends, and I sound so much like my sister (who I'm not close with) that even her good friends can't tell us apart on the phone. So maybe we've all influenced each other?

[@thathighguy6980]

​@@SkittenmeowI've also found that the Midwest US accent (or lack thereof) has a tendency to absorb flavor too. Didn't notice it until coming home for leave from the Navy. Was stationed in South Carolina and my dorm mate was from Louisiana. Came home sounding like a mix of both to everyone else

[@twpsy634]

​@@thathighguy6980As an elderly Welsh woman this has happened so many times in my life. As a young student myself in Bath I clearly remember ,on a visit home, being asked by a taxi driver what part of Wiltshire I was from.😂 I had only been away for a few months so it came as a bit of a shock. I certainly hadn't noticed it myself.I then worked in London for years and picked up that accent .I have been back in Wales for many years now and my accent is back where it started. I notice that if I talk to someone with a London accent I slip into it myself.I am always worried that they will think I am being rude. Goodness knows what will happen when I'm totally demented.😅😊

[@sarahpalmer411]

Ren, I know it’s overwhelming to hear all the praise, but “Hi Ren” hit so deep because no one was expecting it. It was a shock that made people feel deeply, perhaps for the first time in years. It cut past everyone’s defenses. We all carry grief and pain, it’s a gift to feel it and get some of it out. That’s why people are so grateful to you, beyond your amazing musical talents. You’d be an incredible actor if you choose to take that on.

[@janetclaireSays]

I agree, his acting was every bit as fantastic as the writing, music, rapping and singing.

[@truthpanda1966]

😂😂😂😂 another ren fangirl

[@tyronelocke3786]

@@truthpanda1966 she is correct tho , telling truth panda!!

[@jenniferboyster5356]

It was the first song in a long time that made me cry. I have never heard such a great way to describe mental illness …. I now tell everyone I’m going to keep dancing with my mental health

[@CherylAwh]

I came here for an interview and was instead rewarded with something so much better. I felt as if I was hanging out on the porch watching a fascinating conversation between two friends. That 1.5 hours flew by - I could have easily listened to another 2 hours. Oh and if anyone ever doubted how intelligent either of you are, that should be settled now. Thank you both so much for this, I loved it!

[@chocoladehagel]

Oh yes! Exactly my feelings!

[@valentinamihaylova7872]

I wish my English was better to express how much joy and pleasure this interview gave me! Thank you for expressing my feelings in such beautifull way !

[@Dizle81]

Same here

[@rebeccaburnell9319]

Yep, this. I hope you two have the opportunity to hang out in person some day, whether we get to come along for the ride or not.

[@Remrau]

Exactly that. Made me really miss having other intellectuals or "deep thinkers" in my life. I so rarely get to have these kind of talks these days. And I mean talks, not chats. It was wonderful to be pseudo part of this conversation.

[@jonasmandersson]

Listening to Ren is like listening to a smooth genius professor who doesn’t even know how mindblowingly brilliant he is, thus stays down to earth and is so damn likeable. And shoutout to you as well Knox, it takes a good listener and interviewer to create this magic.

[@beardwiley]

The more I hear Ren speak, the more impressed I am. He's a very intelligent and grounded individual and a lot of fun to listen to. Very well done interview Knox!

[@mojowebs]

What a phenomenal couple of young men! You give an old man hope for the future. REN, I came up in the 60s, 70s, and graduated high school in the 80s. We witnessed some of the greatest musicians of our time. GenX lived it all. After seeing your work, you belong on that list of greatest musicians of my lifetime. And I for one can appreciate the depths, twists, and turns of your musical legacy so far. So happy you are getting the attention you deserve. You earned it, REN.

[@karenkaren9526]

Well said

[@karasmatic0814]

Fellow gen x-er here. Greaduated the year Ren was born. Ppl who say there is no new music aren’t paying attention. Great music continues, you just have to find it. Ren is the proof.

[@michellecobb8403]

End of the "boomer" line here, born in '63. I totally agree!

[@KeithDCanada]

For Ren: In regards to not every song you release now having a poignancy similar to "Hi Ren".... I would like to think I share this in common with most people. I don't look for poignancy in music. I look for emotion. Songs can have a direct and important message, or they can just be a fun flex.... but if it makes me feel something, then I'm on board. Yes, "Hi Ren" was an important and relatable introspective look into 'our inner demons', but to me what was more important, personally, was that it invoked strong emotion that I could relate to.... the message itself, was lesser to an extent, for me. I am just as ok listening to "Hi Ren" as I am to "Animal Flow". Creatively very different, but both songs have a strong heartbeat that the listener can tap into.

[@pirada74]

This 💯

[@OlleStahlberg]

Yes. And an artist probably is not in a psychosis 24/7/365, so they have to sing about other things. 😅

[@maz3555]

Same it depends on my mood which song I listen too, Ren covers a lot of my moods, that there is a song for each which I love.

[@kathynicholson103]

Agreed. Not every song will be a mega hit, and that's okay. As long as it comes from a place of honesty, people will gravitate to it. Sometimes a song is a mega hit because of other factors like timing and what's going on in the world. I look for integrity and artistic honesty more than some mega hit formula.

[@Honorablediscord2]

As a vet that has lost too many brothers to the 22 a day, this hit way to close to home... just like Hi Ren. Amazing conversation about the human condition. Thankyou to both of you.

[@stephenhumphris6962]

I feel you brother very similar experiences stay strong your watch is over 💔

[@joshuapeddy9059]

Knox you definitely need to do more interviews. This is great. You and your knowledge make you the perfect interviewer. Thank you for all your content.

[@joseflindbom7680]

Hell yeah. More interviews

[@christinabott-lamb1781]

Wish you could interview NF

[@lizabec]

would love to see you & bp do a collaboration, ea listening to your music & doing a break down

[@tlowgreen2112]

You're a great interviewer Knox. We need more. Podcast?

[@DebapriyaMaitra]

This was so much more than just an interview. This is an extremely important conversation that we all collectively should be participating in. Ren is fascinating to listen to as always, and can definitely outsmart most people on earth combined, even with brain fog 😂 And Knox, you're seriously a gold-standard interviewer, a great person and a dope artist. Thank you both for bringing so much to the table, time just flew by. Truly loved this!

[@coreyms]

This was a great conversation. Lookin forward to the Knox reaction breakdown to this!

[@Dizle81]

🤣

[@Louise-rvn]

🤣🤣

[@RonNL70]

🤣🤣🤣

[@lukephillips3704]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@PurpleAstronut]

🤣🤣

[@annfarmer9704]

GRAND SLAM KNOX! 1. this interview made me love both of you even more! 2. it felt like it went so fast! the two of you made this so interesting I could have listened to both of you ALL DAY and it still would have felt like time flew! this was so much fun, THOROUGHLY ENJOYED this interview! I would like to see a second interview with the two of you, but it would be soooouch cooler if you both were hanging out either in the same room or in a studio. I loved how both of you bounced the ideas between the two of you. it would be interesting to see the two of you just hang out...I bet it be better without an interview structure! just see where your minds take us! thank you Ren & thank you Knox! Knox....YOU are Knox Hill CERTIFIED!

[@ricksurratt9034]

For sure

[@smle34]

AGREE!!

[@JasonDashnaw]

Collab has to be done. They Both can rap their a** off.Interview was great.would love a song from these 2 amazing artist.for fks sake 1 of you send youre verse

[@poisty21]

Big shout out to REN - I spent basically a whole Saturday going through everything Ren - what an incredible artist.

[@truthpanda1966]

😂 Get a life bruh

[@joannewilson2395]

Ren should be very very proud of all of his music. He worries that all of his music isn't at the level of Hi Ren and the tales, but they are, just in a different way. I'm a midwife and my job is amazing but also stressful and sometimes heartbreakingly sad. On my drive to work I've been listening to Ren's music and the ones that are just fun, like Losing it, lift me up for the day, while ones relating to his suffering, like Crutch, put my worries into perspective and then when I get home after a hard shift I do listen to Hi Ren for some answers. It's all important and without that variety there wouldn't be that range of support. 😁😁😁

[@ammogan]

Knoxy boy and Ren, friends until the end!!! ❤❤❤ How was this 1.5hrs?! Felt like 10min.

[@Dizle81]

Collab would be amazing

[@jacubusphilosophicus]

As a NHS nurse thank you Ren for your appreciation to our work and commenting on the situation. I agree there is a systematic problem in our healthcare system at the same time many loving and caring people work there. And A&E is indeed a chaos 😂

[@stephenhumphris6962]

Thank you for all you do for us are angels in blue my partner is training for her nursing ATM with er anxiety and depression with out are NHS staff this country would crumble 👏👏♥️

[@charissseburchett8353]

Stop vaccinating babies.......harming them. Aluminium destroys the brain.

[@mattwilcoxuk]

Thank you for what you do. And putting up with a gov sabotaging it and its staff. Next election... next election :)

[@meganfreeman2505]

I have a huge appreciation for nhs staff! My son luckily had open access to the children’s hospital so we never had to experience the a and e wait. We were always treated amazingly and were in so often i got to know the nurses and everyone was so kind. It makes such a difference to have kind nurses when you are feeling so helpless and worried. Our stays were all during lockdown so the only adults I would see were the nurses and doctors ❤

[@emdiar6588]

Hold tight NHS. The Tories will be out of power soon and for a long time. Less tax funds being funneled into their private off-shore accounts and more, I hope, for the people who deserve it.

[@andrewwest8334]

Great interview. Ren is THE artist of 2023, if not the last 30 years in my opinion. I absolutely love that he brought up Better Call Saul in relation to our dwindling attention spans. Couldn’t agree more.

[@PDXmaker]

Knox & Ren - this was such a pleasure to watch! Such an intelligent, thoughtful, deep and vulnerable conversation. Ren, as a fellow brain fogger, you killed it. 💪🏻 And Knox, so many times when a reaction channel does an interview, I cringe at the way they talk over the artist or are unable to navigate and guide the flow of the interview - you asked interesting questions with depth and curiosity, then gave Ren the space to explore the answers, never talking over or edging in, and kept it flowing so well. Could really sense the respect and love coming from from both of you. Loved it. Thank you ❤

[@maximus6622]

Two quality human beings from either side of the pond having a great conversation, loved it 🇬🇧 🇺🇲 👏👏

[@sunshynff]

Well said, people don't always realize that there is a true skill or art at conducting a proper interview, without dead air, or awkward moments, all while staying engaged with the guest. Knox knocked it out of the park, and Ren, well, we all know his star is undimmable.

[@craigjohnson4819]

Love Ren, he's from my hometown Brighton his videos are all shot in areas I know well. Always great to see a local doing well and with such grace and wisdom. I was part of the UK rave culture back in the 80s and 90s and I'm beyond happy to see the culture that all of you are all creating (showing my age lol). I found Ren through the 90s rave community who started sharing his music, and i found your channel through your Ren reactions, and I love the depth of both of your work. Power to you

[@duggs4456]

Depends how you define from, he was born and raised in Anglesey in Wales until he was like 18 or 19 then moved to Brighton, but he did make his name there

[@NicksGotBeef]

Bloody awesome guys. Good laughter throughout with a sprinkling of tears. Perfect. And very happy 90 mins for me.

[@craigjohnson4819]

@@duggs4456 yeah, I know. Lots of people aren't 'from' Brighton but are from Brighton (myself included) if you know what I mean 🙂

[@lenechristiansen2663]

Ren can still make me cry. Playing on the strings of my soul. I feel so sorry for his loss, and for years and years of suffering. But I am sure that was an important ingredient to form him into the empathetic and humble person he has become. The world loves you, Ren ❤️. Lots of love from Denmark. Lene61/🇩🇰

[@truthpanda1966]

✌️

[@HaleyMac912]

I get it and I relate only too well. I think that's why when he had a genuine smile in the beginning why it registered so hard. Just a smile in a hard life can be a miracle.

[@nannettefreeman7331]

Great interview, Knox! I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. As someone who spent a significant portion of my life interviewing musical artists for magazines back in the day, I gotta say you did an outstanding job keeping the conversation moving, & hit upon all the best points to make for an informative, compelling look at Ren as an artist & a person. I could listen to the two of you talk all day! ✌🏼

[@KnoxHill]

Highest of compliments right here, thank you 🙏 I’ve never interviewed anyone on my own before, this was new territory for me but I thoroughly enjoyed it

[@Lightmane]

@@KnoxHill you did a great job

[@truthpanda1966]

​@@KnoxHillroom for improvement 😅

[@alternative_steve]

Of all reactors, knox hill, you disect music the most technically, from bars to production, to music theory and music history, your knowledge base is insane.. i actually learn a lot from you. This interview was amazing. The musical passion that comes through both of you is blatant and beautiful. I would highly recommend you do more interviews like this.

[@colinfloyd2385]

I would add cultural and historical references

[@bazamere]

He is such a humble and beautiful human being. His beauty isn't in being perfect, its in being imperfect and being able to be honest about it and to still take life head on. I hate saying things like "he deserves success" or whatever because its not for me to say what anyone deserves. But I hope his journey keeps moving him forward and he can keep doing what he loves.

[@cheneyrobert]

Great chat……Ren has so many layers….Orwell, Stravinsky, Coolidge’s art, Vonnegut…..his palette is wide…he draws from a deep well….discussing the abstract value of money and art….reviewing the history of counterculture….very very different from most of the crap being pumped out these days 👏👏👏eclectic, intelligent, serendipitous, creative and hard working……what an inspiring artist 🥂

[@colinmichael520]

Ren casually making music with his subconscious not giving a fuck and everyone trying to break it down is absolutely goat Gorgeous x

[@Dizle81]

Again for the second time today,music history is being written ,right here ,right now!

[@ksenss2513]

Ah, now I can watch the second half!

[@CL4PTRAPS_SQUIRE]

Fr Ren is actually insane

[@FlashTheEagle]

what was the first time?

[@Dizle81]

@@FlashTheEagle Knox uploaded it earlier today but there were some sound problems,he fixed it though

[@GeminiPurPower]

I love RENs choice of words. He’s so clever and interesting to listen to. I can hear it all in his music. ❤

[@sherylstiles1205]

Holy shit Ren, you made us all stop and put the world aside and listen to, relate to, and feel a 9 minute piece of art. You made us feel it, that is what is unique. You drew us in and I for one couldn’t get enough of it. It’s not your only piece of art you have out there. Chalk lines, Crutch, even Englishman in New York. There is just so much that is simply amazing. This is from a die hard country music person who is 62 years old. You are special, your music, art, story telling is special.

[@ThatChris24]

Being ADHD myself, I find is amazing how well Ren can manage his thoughts when he speaks. My thoughts are like little toddlers running in 7 different directions and if I am lucky one leaves my mouth in a sensible manner.

[@anandasouthard7760]

This is the MOST relatable comment! 😂 It’s just absolute chaos in my brain

[@tonymeatball4988]

I feel ya ! Thoughts are right in the head but the disconnect to the sounds out my mouth are unreal. 😂

[@gemmalouise7182]

I’m also adhd and I find in conversations when it’s something I’m extremely passionate about. I can talk about it in detail and I’m not jumbled. If it’s just an everyday conversation I’m completely jumbled and chaotic 😂 I’ve had people tell me I’m not adhd in the past because of how well I can discuss certain topics 🤣

[@kimberleemichelle]

I think we’ve all had that Animal Flow beat stuck in our heads! 😂 And Ren, whether it’s deep & meaningful or fun & flex-y, we are so grateful for your creations. Very happy to hear this conversation. You two have a stellar set of minds!

[@sammyd8860]

Wow ! Was really touched by Ren sharing more about Joe, and really impressed that he kept it together. Really good to hear more around his philosophy on life. How can someone with so much talent, who has been through so much, still be such a lovely human being ? Just wow ...

[@nadomaya37]

Not that there would have been anything wrong with him tearing up, if he had done that. Expressing genuine emotion is human, and Ren is one of the few men I’ve seen who is comfortable showing that vulnerability. It’s impressive either way.

[@ED-007]

I love how vulnerable this was. Very complimentary interview to justin Hawkins. Both share such important aspects of Ren’s journey

[@truthpanda1966]

I'm really vulnerable. I bet you'd love it 😅

[@tegandrever6834]

What a freakin Rabbit Hole. I’ve only recently come across both of you. What a glorious display acceptance and unconditional love for the wholeness of the human experience. That was a great interview from two remarkable critical minds. Thank you both

[@mirella1]

The chemistry between you two is mesmerizing. It was a pleasure to watch you connect on so many levels.

[@johnlombardo7816]

big ups to Knox for getting one of the most watched dudes as of late on here. It is a true testament to what you are doing these days Knox, killing all aspects of life!! Ren thanks for blessing Knox with the interview, and I assume I speak for all of us fans and we pray that you continue to get better and healthier and your work really speaks to us and helps heal us all in more ways then you can imagine ! love it and love you guys!❤❤💯💯❤❤💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏🙏🔥🔥👏👏👏👏

[@Henry-go7gi]

RENegades 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@alloralou4722]

I LOVE seeing people who get so geeked out by music! It warms this old lady’s heart!❤ I’m 60 years old and I thought I had given up on hearing any more really exciting music in my lifetime then comes Ren and his amazing talent! I’m dazzled by his artistry. I can die a happy woman!

[@Xod4rap]

This was amazing start to finish. Loved every second. I actually never heard of Ren until Crypt did a reaction to Hi Ren not long ago. Basically, I binged every song Ren had on YT/Spotify & now I can say proudly he’s my favorite musician of all time. Super relatable music. I lost my wife/best friend in February of this year so I feel blessed to have Ren’s music there to help me through all this. It’s life altering to lose someone you love. Freckled Angels/Hi Ren/Chalk Outlines are my top 3 but all of them are masterful in their own way. I don’t know what else to say except thank You both for 90 minutes of happiness. Much love from Oregon, USA.

[@Lagrangeify]

Glad you've found something that helps. All strength to you going forward brother.

[@jillianarbour5323]

I love Rens music because it seems to capture the whole gamut of who we are as people. We’re poignant, we’re playful, there’s pain, there’s joy, there’s critique. We all go through hard things and we usually feel many things at once. He just seems to capture it all and reflect it back

[@pirada74]

👏👏👏

[@Rob-bt3ev]

Well said!

[@Vice-Versa1]

This was more than interview it went deeper than Ted talk . I was absolutely engaged throughout with a brilliant chemistry between Knox and Ren . loved it

[@Keriousity]

Ted talks are like tiktok- the are a teaser the entry point to long form its why I like Lex fridman

[@talkingdonkey1817]

The old saying goes: “you have to suffer to sing the blues.” Perhaps this helps explain a bit of the genius that is Ren. Big love and respect. Bravo, Knox! 👍

[@arangillespie]

It’s beautiful to see two kindred spirits connect!

[@sarahcp6117]

Wonderful Interview! I thoroughly enjoyed this...and Knox, KNOX! You did such a phenomenal job as an interviewer! You really have a talent for balancing topics and the flow of the conversation. I'm sure you had notes and a plan and lists of questions but you flexed and flowed with what Ren was saying so well while still clearly guiding the dialogue. Thank you so much for your thoughtful content and this delightful interview

[@williamalexander7481]

He really did.

[@alaskan_bergwanderer]

100% agreed!

[@alanbeesby2220]

I literally just before watching this, watched someone react to Illest of our time and say, why isn’t this deep and meaningful like Hi Ren and had to comment to say, exactly what you just said; 1) life isn’t all about deep and meaningful, sometimes it’s fun and free flowing 2) no one needs Hi Ren 2. People are primed to want to consume things they like over and over until everything is a jaded xerox! It is this mentality that differentiates AI music from Human music for me, as the next timeless classic is not what you expect to hear rather than an amalgam of popular or trending facets! Keep it up both of you! ❤

[@supertuscans9512]

That’s a really astute comment. People tend to expect to get in into a particular groove with musicians and bands they like but listening to your next new Ren track is a bit like getting mugged. You tune in expecting one thing and get totally turned over by getting smashed with something totally different. It can be unsettling but it’s also fascinating.

[@alanbeesby2220]

@@supertuscans9512 thanks! 😊 what is so funny, is that people don’t otherwise consume music in this way! We are often highly eclectic and will listen to songs from different genres, but for some reason we expect artists to “stay in their lane” as far as composition goes! Would anyone have really cared if Prince had released Manic Monday instead of the Bangles? Who knows! But he gave them the song as it didn’t sound enough like a Prince song and yet as consumers lots of people will have heard and liked both. So whether it “sounds” like them or not, doesn’t actually matter! Constricting composition in this way really make a very narrow passage for an artist to work in, for no good reason it’s good to see artists like Ren are not concerned with this abstraction! 👍👏

[@jackstone2000]

wow the story of Joe and the freckled angels was heart shattering and also beautiful how they honoured his legacy

[@ladyh2054]

To you both, thank you for being genuine. Strongly diskiked rap before. I’m 53 and your style of rapping has finally got my attention. Ren, my heart goes out to you. I pray for your healing. So glad to hear you are responding well to treatment. I look forward to more of your music. Knoxhill, you keep being you. Thank you for this interview. It’s like watching old friends have a chat. Love it

[@toniyoung5131]

I agree with you about disliking rap, until Ren showed us his way. I'm also reacting to his point about worrying that new music may not be as good as Hi Ren. My thought is that I'm looking forward to new music from Ren, I just love to hear his voice, particularly his singing voice😊. I'm 70 soon and have been watching reaction videos to find something new. Oh Boy, have I found it in Ren.

[@gregeads6124]

Ren. You made me feel like I have a chance in this life. It's crazy how a great artist can speak to a stadium full of people, and yet make every person there know for a fact that your talking to them alone. Your off the charts great.

[@KarriSimone]

Totally

[@FredErickinNashville]

Ren has made me look at creating music completely different than I have for 30 years. The last artist to make me see things so differently was Trent Reznor.

[@williammoran4898]

Odd I'm scrolling along and boom there's my thought written down that I had earlier. Yet that is not my name above it. I'm glad someone else noticed the similarities.

[@merklingassoc]

What a great interview. Ren is a poet, in fact an incredibly good poet. I think the reason his music new and past hits us so hard is his exceptional ability to tell a story and to tell it from his heart. I'm 68 and Ato me Ren is one of the best new artist to hit the consumer market. I totally look forward to all his new releases. Knox, I love how you break it all down. I always learn from your reactions and get so much more from the songs story. Thank you for that.... ❤❤❤❤👏👏👏👏👏

[@truthpanda1966]

Just marry him already 🤢🤮

[@stephensneddon1059]

People like Ren can write /sing songs for years....then 💥....one song connects so many people (Hi Ren).....and it takes off... Ren is now giving what he worked so hard for, to us, the people...keep strong, live long👍🏻🇬🇧

[@InquisitiveJen]

Knox! He felt so comfortable with you that he opened up personally & shared more than usual! You were fantastic with this interview - made Ren feel at ease, kept the conversion flowing & and great questions to keep it interesting. Well done 🎉 Thank you for this😊

[@lisapattison5605]

Love the mutual respect you two have for each other!! 👌🏼🎵 It shines through 🔥🔥🔥 Great question about Ren’s Rap origins!

[@marcusheppell946]

This interview hits hard, inspiring and illuminating. Both Knox and Ren are intelligent and articulate. When they spoke about plan b and the streets the nostalgia went deep. 😂

[@Pwecko]

I watched the Hi Ren video yesterday, having never heard of him before. I was very, very impressed. Today, I watched a few more Ren videos. Then this video popped up and I thought, "Hmm, thats a bit too long, but I'll see what Ren is like when he's not performing. Maybe I'll come back to it another time". An hour and a half later, I've watched the whole thing. What a great interview with a very intelligent, very talented man. I would love to have a conversation with him.

[@ali50n]

Love that Ren dedicated this to Joe. I love the connection that you seem to have, you just understand each other. Thanks Knox and Ren, this was beyond great ❤❤

[@jodi.lynn.]

Great job Knox. Thank you Ren for opening up. Big love all around boys. 🫶🏼

[@mauraleib]

Rewatched this interview after many months while working on a home DIY project and was struck by what a natural conversation it was between two great artists and how revealing it was about REN’s state of mind. Great stuff ❤

[@AK00777]

Absolutely captivating. Ren is such an incredible guy. Knox, you're a natural interviewer, such cool questions and such cool input of your own. Loved every second of this. Love You Ren ❤

[@francesdoll4039]

What a wonderful look into both of you! Thanks Ren for sharing your story of Joe. I can't express how precious it is to be trusted with that. And you did this VERY COHERENTLY Big up to both of you! You seem so alike ❤ May I say that these are deep waters for some of us fans as well. At 73 I have turned into a fangirl for the first time in my life ! Just trying to navigate that knowing the burden that places on you guys to respond. I want to support and not diminish your efforts. Big hug here from me. Love you both.

[@GnashBistro]

You're kind of a really good host and interviewer, man. You really should think about doing more shit like this. Hi Ren 👋

[@richardosborne8570]

This is NOT an interview. This is two extremely likeable guys chatting deeply like they're best friends and WE have the absolute privilege to be able to ride along with them. Thank you both

[@zigman63]

I don't know anything about you or your music, however to hear 2 young men discuss life and music on all levels is amazing.iam 60yrs old and have had music in my whole life from the sanctuary of my bedroom in early 70s to having a Record shop in Ireland in the late 80s. And Ren gives me so much hope for the longevity of Art and its beat....

[@lillyvanpug]

The two of you together is just a darn double dose of dopamine, its unreal 🤯🤯🤯 This is amazing to watch, very insightful, great subjects and just lots of love through and through 🖤

[@marktwivey4427]

I found Ren with a random KZbin recommendation and it was Knox reaction to Hi Ren and was blown away and it hit home on a lot of levels, but that was so emotional and then other tracks are just as flocking good in there own way. Knox keep finding theses gems and giving your unique reactions to ‘em.

[@Rotten_Rosary]

I love how Ren quoted that line from Californication. "Destruction leads to a very rough road, but it also breeds creation" it explains a lot of actual artists bc they have had very rough experiences in their lives and now they create something that allows the reactor, the listener, or the viewer to feel something and create their own perspective

[@lilme7052]

(I will) "rise from the east" (at least it settles in a final location.

[@kathynicholson103]

It's always been that way, throughout the centuries. The best poetry, literature and music comes from pain or anger.

[@Lightmane]

14:32 "I don't want it to be outcome dependent" Knox, I don't know if you'll see my comment, seeing how many comments you get, but I really wanted to thank Ren for saying what he said here. I've tagged him a few times, but I don't think he ever saw it, which I understand. I recently wrote my first novel, which is a Fantasy Novel, and I started writing Book Two, but became very frustrated at the lack of interest in my book, which I self-published. I shouldn't have gotten frustrated, knowing that self-publishing almost never works, but I really thought word of mouth would've at least generated a decent amount of interest, but when it didn't, I got depressed, and stopped writing. It had been over a year since I had written anything, but when I watched your interview with Ren, when he said that, something in my brain clicked, and I realized how foolish I was being, and just like that I was working on Book Two again. Well, I just recently finished Book Two, and now my friend, who has been editing college students writings, for many years now for free, volunteered to edit both my books (I edited the first one myself, so it still needs some work, as it's very hard to edit your own writing, but I did the best I could, and felt I did a decent job). Anyway, I'm including a special thanks to Ren in my book, and I've also narrated it here too. It's all in a Playlist, and I even used a couple of Ren's songs as intro and outro music. I use intro and outro music on almost every chapter, along with background music, and after discovering Ren, thanks to 'Hi Ren', I really wanted to use some of his music. Fortunately, I found two Chapters where two of his songs really fit the theme of the Chapter (Murderer, and GIRLS!). Just wish he knew that I used them, as well as how much he helped me to finish writing Book Two. I plan on writing Book Three sometime next year. I also hope he'll give it a listen sometime, as I know he likes Fantasy Literature (I know he loved 'The Hobbit'. So did I). If you're into D&D, or just fantasy in general, I hope you'll check it out too, as I'd love to chat with both of you in the comments, anytime : ) So here's hoping that you see my comment here, and let him know that thanks to him, I was able to finish writing my book.

[@bkkidd2112]

Ren is just so damn likeable

[@kellycostello1514]

Where did the time go, I was hooked all the way through. Hill & Gill - you guys need a talkshow!! I know I'd watch it 🧐🤩 Love the mutual respect and appreciation of eachother and their work. Please do another one, soon. Lotsa love 🙌🤘👍

[@ceekayy79]

If any two people should have a podcast it's these two

[@mspersonunknowable]

My son is about your guys' age, and I am so glad that you are talking about the trauma young men are going through. As a Mum, my son does tell me some of the despair he goes through, but I know he spares me the worst. All I can say is that yours is the 'jilted generation'. Brought up during the aspirational 90s when you were encouraged to follow your dreams and were told that they were reachable - just work hard. Only to find when you have grown up, that the board game has totally changed. Zero hours contracts, no housing, fear of bringing children into this seemingly doomed world - many don't or won't. There's a wrongly held belief that your generation never had it so good, and it so untrue, or at least, there is such a big flip side to this idea. I will never forget my sons friends who have taken their lives, mashed up their brains with drugs, or ended up developing mental illness and being put into mental health care. Often the most vulnerable to depression and suicide ,are also the most enlightened, beautiful, kind, loving, considerate, and intelligent people. In ' Hi Ren' I recognised so many of the conversations that my son has in his head too. I feel we urgently need to bring young people's mental health out onto the table. Ren and Knox do mention that they are musicians, and not mental health workers. But still, I felt such relief to hear the words spoken out loud in ' hi Ren'. This gives me hope. Thanks, you two brave and talented men.

[@ColonelForkEyes]

underrated comment

[@liambiaggi4463]

I'm a welsh guy going through a lot of mental health stuggles myself and Ren has made me feel like I'm so much less alone with everything. Only found his stuff recently but I'm in love with how i feel when i hear his music.

[@sinisterplank3113]

Ren is a phenomenal person and he was very generous with himself in his answers, but what struck me the most is was what a competent interviewer you are. You were knowledgeable, you asked well thought out questions, and you let Ren speak. Reminds me of Hot Ones or Happy Sad. Well done.

[@Sip_107]

This was a great and wholesome conversation. And god damn, Ren posses some astounding wisdom for his age. Guess going through all that heavy shit really molds you into something different.

[@MetalRatte2007]

Damn, Ren, you are such a wholesome, highly intelligent, empathic and deep person. I just know you'd be a person i could be talking for hours and hours with and it would feel like 5 minutes. This interview was pretty long but it felt like nothing and i do struggle listening to people for a longer period of time (Adhd Kid here as well). Ok, i spent half of it just crying cause your story just crushed me. Hearing this right after listening to the song "For Joe" for the 10th time, without really knowing the backstory is so heartbreaking, i can only imagine how you must've felt.. and i am so flashed by how strong you are emotionally... It just takes my breath, cause i myself feel so fragile sometimes, like i couldn't go on. I think i speak for every person loving your music, watching your videos, listening to this interview and others: I am glad you are here and i don't want you to ever leave the planet please. Just stay you! Do you and don't let industry ever take that light from you ❤️

[@cheekymeeper]

I totally understand how Ren could have thrust imposter syndrome upon himself. I'm one of the many who discovered his work through "Hi Ren", but I've found myself enjoying more and more of his work. I understand how HE could FEEL that, but I cant agree. The Hunger is nuts, absolutely incredible display of rapping techniques. Animal Flow is a great rhythmic banger, it's very different but still has his fingerprint. I just hope he doesn't hamstring himself for fear of public judgement. Artists experiment, sometimes releases wont hit the mark. Some of the most widely respected artists have flops. At the end of the day what does that really matter? People will explore a body of work and pick and choose what they like. No artist has solely released hits which are universally liked.

[@philth8540]

57 minutes Knox telling Ren why we all love his pre-Hi Ren music was what we all feel I’m sure. That convo about Joe and suicide was so deep but exactly the reason I could never see myself ending it all despite some difficult times. Watching these two have such an intellectual convo is one of the best interviews I’ve seen, without having a natural interviewer involved! Love you both 🙏

[@FracturedParadigms]

Wow! Thanks for landing this interview man. I've been putting out Ren reactions since I first seen Jenny and screech. Hoping one day to get him on the channel myself! Loving this reaction circuit.

[@rael1999]

That's what's so good about lyrics....words trigger different emotions in different people. Music and lyrics have been very important to me throughout my life, another form of oxygen really. I love the way Ren plays with lyrics, he takes well recognised tropes and then flips them. He also talks about issues that touch everyone.It's no surprise to hear Ren say how much time and effort goes into putting the music, the lyrics and the visuals together. I love art and creativity and Ren's take on modern art was interesting. I have a similar opinion (lol) but what annoys me is you get people talking how deep it is and special, when really anyone could go out and do something different if they were given the space and the money. The thing I love about art is that I have the belief that everyone can do it and everyone should do it because it's a great way of expressing yourself. Whether that be painting, poetry, writing, music, acting etc. I love how humble and down to earth Ren is and I hope fame doesn't change him one bit. I hope he maintains that gentle dance that helps him control his demons. I know what Ren is saying about the medical industry, but I can't thank the NHS enough for what they've done for me during my lifetime. They saved my life when I was a little baby treating me for a pyloric stenosis back in 1959 and then again last year having a major operation for my Crohn's. The nurses, stoma team and doctors in Jimmies, Leeds were amazing. With Ren's illness, I get the feeling you wouldn't care if you died, because if sleep is the only time you get away from your pain and your demons then it becomes a dark attractive option. I went through that with my Crohn's when it had gone on for a year and it dawned on me it wasn't going away. Great interview by the way. Relaxed and chilled.

[@Keithies7]

The last few month’s these 2 lads have help me.

[@Shiroar]

Ren, please do make a heavy metal song next week 😂 At this point the only thing I don’t know for sure if you can do is metal screams so bring it mate. Besides it’s what I listen to most of the time so would be awesome to hear some from you too. And both of you, thanks for this! Been looking forward to seeing this meeting of clever minds ❤

[@Dizle81]

I think he has one already,he's so versatile

[@Shiroar]

@@Dizle81 which one? Not sure what song you’re thinking of.

[@krazulo]

and after that a cover from Tennessee Whiskey...

[@Dizle81]

@@Shiroar Haven't heard one yet,i wouldn't be surprised if he has one in his vault.

[@jeanwyenberg2774]

Listen to Crutch. He can do it.

[@thewickedpixie63]

That beat been keeping me awake at night to the point of aggravation😂 I'm intensely invested in learning more of the psychological impact that has been exploding from Ren's music. People have clearly been missing something vital even if we didn’t realise it. It's riveting to watch reactions to the music and listening to these conversations.

[@francesdoll4039]

It's connection we are missing, and compassion. I have been interested in the reasons also

[@thewickedpixie63]

@@francesdoll4039 i agree completely but more so its authentic connections that are missing. You could argue that with the onset of Social media and the Internet there are more ways than ever to connect to people but we don't seem to be doing so in a meaningful way. For me Popular music has had little to recommend it for the last 5 years or more. Barring the odd decent tune .I can't tell who is putting what out as it all blends into the same meaningless noise. The flashy music videos full of money, beautiful people and luxury lifestyles all seem inane and unrelatable. I think Ren has maybe come along at the perfect time given the last 3 years of turbulence, difficulties and disenchantment. People want genuine music that touches on matters close to their hearts. They want to know they are not isolated in their struggles,its not just them that feels like life is an uphill battle sometimes. Ren has a great gift for communication of abstract concepts and relating them back in a brilliant way. Its just amazing to see people of all ages be so invigorated and passionate about his work. Having said that not every song has to be deep and meaningful theres a lot to be said for pure joyful energy and a banging tune as well. I wish nothing but the best for Ren and can't wait for more music 😄 💛

[@francesdoll4039]

@@thewickedpixie63 one reason I have joined the Ren's Rabbit Hole Fans. What a wonderful true community it is. Morphing into something thst uplifts each and supports the creativity triggered by Ren's output.

[@zed4225]

Agree 100%, I've been thinking along the same lines. It is riveting, and also, comforting.

[@chaos42207]

Man, listening to this makes me appreciate Ren even more. His story about his friend, I feel that. My best friend ended things as well and I felt that guilt for years before I finally realized it wasn't my fault. It is tough to have that guilt. Thank you both for sharing this.

[@andalucianm00n]

Knox I really feel a brilliant possibility of interviews/ podcasts birthing from this meeting of minds. I hope there will be more interviews in the future! Your pacing, your thoughtfully considered responses, your patience and giving Ren time to breath and unpack everything, all of it was just beautiful. Ironically it reminded me of one of my fave podcasters that Ren brought up lol. If he never lands in Lex's chair you def did him justice with this moment in time. Thank you both for a well spent time and can't wait for more from you each. ❤

[@mortenfrederiksen3063]

Enjoyed the interview very much as well, and all in all Knox did a great job throughout the whole thing, much love to both❤ On different note Lex is a master of his craft, definitely an interviewer and podcaster worth checking...

[@Yarnhacker]

YES! Been SO excited to hear you both talking with each other Knox and Ren! 🔥🔥🔥❤️

[@ELP68]

Thank you for a genuine look into the mind of Ren. He's real and refreshing. I think you were perfect for this interview 🫡

[@TimboSlyce30]

As you mentioned, Ren clearly has a creative, complex, and deep mind but having an interviewer that is very intelligent, can relate to perspective and...just wow

[@vickyastbury9435]

Guys, this is one of the best interviews I have ever watched. Knox, you were so chilled and relaxed, you and Ren just connect on a different level to others and just understand each other. 🩵 Ren, you are such a beautiful human with a huge soul. Your music speaks volumes and your way with words is a talent that very few people recognise or choose to understand. I love it. Keep doing what you're doing, it's amazing. Peace and love lyme warrior 💚 Vix

[@12aw12]

This has been absolutely lush! As a fellow Welshman (around the same age, music lover), all the music and era was relatable. That shoutout to Goldie Lookin Chain, you knows it clarrrt - from my hometown. Own both their albums (CDs), back in the day, along with Mike Skinners. Couldn't get enough of this. Keep it up both. Definitely need this collab to happen ❤

[@JohnnyRocker2162]

Guns Dont Kill People, Rappers Do, I saw it on a documentary on BBC 2 !!!!!! 😅

[@seancunningham4462]

@@JohnnyRocker2162 “i burnt a new hole in my tracksuit today, smoking soapbar without an ashtray”

[@oliverfrost2430]

Christ I love Ren. Could listen to him talk all day.

[@LucaAnamaria]

What a wonderful interview! So much focus on the craft. I relate to Ren so much as a poet, multi-genre musician, ADHD person, and rebel. What a friggin' inspiration. Keep shining bright, my dude. ✨✨✨

[@RickSinclair]

Fascinating listening to both of you! Ren your story is amazing and your creativity draws even a nearly 70 y/o in. I've never enjoyed or wanted to listen to rap but your insight, clever wordplay, rhythms, voice, and production techniques blow me away! May your career be successful and your journey meaningful. Thank you for your hopeful message. Knox, I love your ability to translate the intricacies of these amazing artists. Your breakdowns help an old man who can't listen and interpret bars fast enough. You are helping me enjoy a genre that I normally would avoid with your passion and insightful interpretations of the complicated lyrics these amazing artists produce. Don't stop!

[@Silversky545]

This was excellent… I would really like to dive into his political brain: so fascinating Knox did a tremendous job with this interview

[@LWD83]

What a great conversation…what is missing from so much from the modern world, just talking! Lovely ❤

[@wendeogden1930]

Loved listening to both of you. I'm a retired elementary school teacher. Probably not your usual listener. Knox, your breakdown of so many artist's music has helped me to appreciate rap. Your music is great. Ren, I love your music also. You both seem like 2 nice guys. Why did it take me so long to realize and appreciate that rap is just poetry put to rhythm and/or music? Like with any musical style, most of it is simplistic and meant for quick consumption. You two are exceptions. You both have the gift of communication through rap and song. I'll be watching to see where your music takes you. Keep persevering! ❤❤

[@Dona-fu9zh]

Nailed it Knox ❤ Nice flow....lots of insight. Happy to listen to you both.