Inside the Timex Mk1 Mechanical

[@blueguitar4419]

The decoration looks just like Seagull Skeleton Movement decorations

[@JustWatches1]

You are correct. I think we narrowed it down to a Seagull :)

[@mystic48209]

It is an likely to be found in other Timex Mechanicals ( or one of other Seagull stable of mechanical hand winds).

[@leegroce2943]

Jason, this is very interesting and cool. I have always wanted to do something like this but could never work on anything so small. Keep up the good work!

[@JustWatches1]

Thank you! It is a challenging, but rewarding side of the hobby.

[@gunot5407]

That was a really great video! Very informative!

[@JustWatches1]

Glad you enjoyed it :)

[@trevorhofmann1562]

Love this type of content, Jason... but then again, I'm the type of nerd that enjoys watching hours-long real-time disassemblies, cleanings, refurbishment, reassemblies, etc by master watchmakers too. Either way, I enjoyed your take on this little Timex (a watch I've been curious about), and commend you on your bravery, and no doubt, patience. More of these videos would be appreciated...

[@JustWatches1]

I have the utmost respect for people that film this type of content. It is already so difficult to work on watch movements, filming the process raises the difficult to another level. I'm going to leave this content for people who are much more talented than I going forward 😋

[@ncavis]

Thanks for this video- Timex is selling these for $89 this weekend so I had to pick one up.

[@JustWatches1]

Oh nice, that's a great deal!

[@ncavis]

@@JustWatches1 do you still have (and wear) yours?

[@magicofwheels]

Yes, shooting video with camera in between yourself and the object is not easy. Also the working process takes somewhat 2 to 3 times longer than usual but you will enjoy it. :D

[@JustWatches1]

Perhaps haha, working on watches still terrifies me the whole time :P

[@Hipnosis65]

Interesting that there are reverse screws on a watch, I didn't know that. Similar to pedals and bottom bracket on the left side of a bike. Good job on this video.

[@JustWatches1]

Yes exactly! Prevents the screw from slowly reversing over time I think!

[@nplus1watches35]

That was a great video, Jason, a lot of good detail and interesting vicarious tour of your Mk1 mech. I hope you regulated your watch at the very end after you got all the way in there and put it back together. ;) If not, did it ever settle down to something less than 20+ sec/day?

[@JustWatches1]

I actually didn't regulate it. I will have to throw it on the timegrapher and see. I'll report back.

[@gimbydude491]

That was awesome! I almost think the still shots are a better way to go, you get things set up the way you want to show them, and the micro videography that is required to show things live seems like a lot of effort for little gain. I have never even taken a watch apart past a battery change, let alone an actual service..I do have an NH36 that does not change one of the day/date, so I was thinking that will be my first attempt just to tinker, and it is an AliExpress watch, so I am not super worried that I will ruin an expensive piece. Definitely interested in more of this content, and perhaps a video discussing the servicing you have done in the past, and another on what equipment you have found you really used, verses what you may have bought (I tend to overbuy on all the things people talk about needing) so that would be beneficial to hear what you really needed or what really helped.

[@JustWatches1]

Yes I could do something like that. I took Mark Lovick's Repair class which is very good. But if you want to just get an idea I highly recommend My Retro Watches. His channel has so much good (and free) information for an amateur. I started on just movements. A Seagull ST 36 is a great first movement because it is manual wind, has no calendar works, and is on the larger side. I would just take it apart and put it back together over and over. You can honestly take that movement apart with a 1mm screwdriver and a pair of tweezers. You will know VERY QUICKLY if you enjoy it or not. I find it exhilarating, but at times it can be intensely frustrating. This is the best video I have found for the ST36. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jp_LaIJoZ9KXq6c This is technically the ETA version but the ST36 is a clone of that movement. In the beginning I skipped all the steps that were hard, like oiling, cleaning, capstones, etc. and slowly worked those in as I felt more comfortable and got more tools.

[@mrbacchus6127]

Nice, glad you were able to find that piece. A springbar flew across the room on me yesterday, no idea where it is now. Keep tinkering it is interesting to me at least. Timex should say what movement it uses imo

[@JustWatches1]

Springbars are no joke. I ordered a bunch of extra ones for the three most common sizes 18, 20, 22mm.

[@lucasmendes6516]

Great video!

[@JustWatches1]

Thank you :)

[@gustafrenstrom8549]

I'm almost certain it is a seagull st6 movement with the automatic winding removed. this would mean than only 17 of the 20 jewels are actually operational.

[@JustWatches1]

Fascinating, yes I think it is defintely a Seagull, thanks for the insight!

[@Mwingreen]

Thank you for great video. Any thoughts on if this watch will hit the market again I can’t find them anywhere online. Trying to stay optimistic

[@JustWatches1]

I'm pretty surprised they haven't made more yet, I know it was a big hit. It does say email when available on the Timex site, so I would say that is a good sign they will.

[@silver771000]

Thanks for doing this video, I got me this watch and my question is can this cheap Movement be service?

[@JustWatches1]

Yes, you can service this movement, but it is probably way cheaper just to replace the old movement with a new movement.

[@nicklau33]

Great video👍

[@JustWatches1]

Thank you :)

[@danielchahua923]

Great work buddy ... but at the end remains just a question ( to me at least..) mechanically.... does this Timex worth the money? Thanks for your replay . Regards.

[@JustWatches1]

You are definitely paying a premium for the Timex branding. I would prefer that they use a Miyota movement like they do in most of their other mechanicals. I think if you want a field style watch like this stick with the Seiko SNK80X. They used to be easy to obtain for about $60-$70 but I think the price has been rising due to the fact that I think they are no longer being produced. The 7S26 movement in those watches is a tried and true workhorse that will last many, many years.

[@danielchahua923]

;-)

[@ryanstafford8544]

Awesome video. Pardon my novice question but is there a way to adjust the movement to get better accuracy while it was in a certain state of disassembly?

[@JustWatches1]

Great question! You can do it with just the caseback off actually. Here is a great video on that procedure: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqSyg2t9r9J2sNk

[@ayatoya123]

Great video! Great watch as well. Do you know what material is the dial made of?

[@JustWatches1]

Great question, I don't know :(

[@ayatoya123]

@@JustWatches1 just curious since I read that Timex uses some kind of acrylic for their indiglo dials. I hope that this one without indiglo would be made from more durable material. Anyway, keep up the good work. :)

[@JustWatches1]

@@ayatoya123 Thank you :)

[@halfpastblog]

Very interesting. 👍

[@JustWatches1]

Tinkering is equal parts super frustrating and fun :P

[@evannussbaum1863]

With the large spacer and small movement, won’t it be a bit more durable kinda like g shocks? I know they do that on g shocks

[@JustWatches1]

Yes maybe, but I'm not really sure to be honest. I will say this spacer works really well. Sometimes they are very fiddly to get right.

[@jhatgotagat300]

dear god nooooooooo not even close. plastic movement holder....

[@TheJOKEY-bk5gc]

The movement is a Seagull TY6DSK which comes in both hacking and non-hacking versions, they consider it a female sized movement but the Marlin and Camper both utilize it.

[@JustWatches1]

Thank you for the insight!

[@TheJOKEY-bk5gc]

@@JustWatches1 No problem, how has this one been holding up for you? I just ordered this movement for my line of WWII replicas.

[@troynasello2085]

Wheel with long pinion is the center wheel

[@JustWatches1]

Thank you! I'm still learning, that is for sure :)

[@troynasello2085]

I understand, I'm a beginner too!

[@jayn8392]

Very cool but really makes me wonder about the almost 200$ price tag for a timex. A name that may have once commanded some prestige, but is now more known for solid and very affordable pieces. I mean you can get an automatic seiko with better materials and a well known movement for the same or less than this guy. I think if they had added sapphire crystal and more quality band, along with maybe a more interesting dial then the 200$ price tag would be far more justified. I'll just stick with the quartz version. Far cheaper, more accurate and arguably more durable as it is a known commodity. And you can get a chrono version for like half the price. If they would put this closer to 80$ I'd likely snag it right up.

[@JustWatches1]

I very much agree. Timex overcharges for their mechanical watches generally. You would be way better off with a Seiko or Orient. That being said, I'm glad they make mechanicals again :)

[@mystic48209]

It might be a Seagull mech movement.

[@JustWatches1]

Yes, that is the consensus. Thanks :)

[@BanksProject]

The movement is a Sea Gull TY6DSK-1

[@JustWatches1]

Ah perfect, thank you for the identification!

[@BanksProject]

@@JustWatches1 no problem friend. The movement is under $20. I am going to buy a backup myself.

[@Ipeacocks]

I suppose that it's bad that this watch have such small movement?

[@JustWatches1]

Not really. Often times the movements are smaller than the watch, this one just happens to be quite a bit smaller.

[@mystic48209]

Copying part of an article of timex expedition north field post watch. Likely this is a skeletonised version of the following: A seagull movement. But as with any mechanical watch, the big question is accuracy. In this case, I’m happy to report that the Field Post (and its 23-jewel Sea-Gull TY6DSK-1 movement) averaged just plus-6 seconds per day. For a tool in this price range, that’s damned good, especially given its ability to hack. Just pull out the crown, count away a few seconds, and screw it back into place. Online specs list the Sea-Gull’s power reserve at 34 hours, which seems about right. This, however, leads to the part where I start airing my complaints.

[@JustWatches1]

Fair enough. I should trust these movements more I guess.

[@magicofwheels]

try this seagull lady skeleton movement ty6dsk

[@JustWatches1]

Oh, I think you solved the mystery! The train of wheels plate is different, but the rest of it looks very similar.

[@magicofwheels]

Yes, I think the plate is designed specificially for this model.

[@JustWatches1]

@@magicofwheels Agree

[@neilpiper9889]

Seagull ST6 movement. I have one in a ladies 1970s Orex watch with added hacking. Robust.

[@salty_terminal_civilian5374]

I put an NH35 in my Timex

[@JustWatches1]

Wait really? Which model? Did you have trouble finding the correct size spacing ring? Sounds very interesting.

[@mystic48209]

awesome!

[@marlboro9tibike]

this is basically aliexpress watch oveprized by 150$

[@JustWatches1]

Timex is defintely making a killing on these.

[@mystic48209]

what if someone put in the right size ETA mechanical or auto movement.... sweet.

[@ojsimps701]

Ladies dress watch movt

[@JustWatches1]

Yes, you are correct. The sleuths of the internet figured out which one too.