INSKIP POINT AND THE 40PSI CLUB ?

#INSKIP #NISSAN #PATROL #TOYOTA #HILUX
#BOGGED #

[@ooaqici82qb4ip]

Capable cars operated by incapable kids who spend thousands on a vehicle and won’t buy a tyre deflator for $30

[@Francois_Dupont]

deflating cost nothing. just use your nails or keys and press the nip. inflating them back to road pressure is when you need a good pump.

[@mark2073]

I use a snail shell I found on the beach for free to deflate. Very ergonomic.

[@capncrack181]

Just use the the valve cap to deflate

[@ooaqici82qb4ip]

@@Francois_Dupont i doubt they could improvise

[@truter5243]

I use a small stick. Now available on my website for only $29.99 lol

[@Midnight_456]

My biggest fear in life is ending up on this channel 😂😂

[@benwinter2420]

Just surrender to exhaustion

[@alexgilchrist7130]

same never wanna be on this channel

[@johneller5856]

Well just drop your tyre pressures. These dickheads "P" Plates tell it all. How many other vehicles are just driving past without any dramas.

[@tysonstamp5988]

@@alexgilchrist7130 if I had to choose. I'd pick being on here over drowning at Nolan's Brook.

[@NoelsysOutdoors]

worse when you're on dash cam owners australia haha

[@garygeorge1344]

It's good to see some young people out having a go. They will learn soon enough. I'm sure most of us didn't know all the skills for sand driving straight away.

[@SpencerHHO]

It's a couple of hours of basic research at first, I took my first car, a patrol like that one to Fraser, it was the first time driving in sand and I didn't get stuck. Letting your tyres down is the most basic thing. Not even knowing that Indicates dangerous ignorance

[@lukedontknow9283]

@@SpencerHHO or they just don’t use the internet and just figured let’s go explore the beach?

[@benwalker1869]

Lower tyre pressure.... they cant learn that yet we let them drive on public roads?

[@fisher898]

Yeah, like there's no one else to ask or watch

[@juanmiguel8120]

The problem is how many do this on tacks around aus an then we all bitch when they shut something down not hard to yell out to let ya tyres down I’ll lend ya a pump but no sit there chewing up tracks like a flog for half hour

[@Keithygeorge]

Imagine if you didn't know these clowns, and got invited away for the weekend with them. You'd just drive off and leave them wouldn't you.

[@markdotcomau]

Every driver who's unfortunate enough to get stuck at In-Skip Point when you're there filming should be rewarded with a "40 PSI CLUB" bumper sticker slapped on their rear window.....as a reminder to air down, like and subscribe!

[@tcmonster]

That child in the patrol is a disgrace. Sell you forby to someone who knows how to drive

[@GrumpysBeast]

He is totally clueless.

[@jamesbrogmus2606]

Amen to that!

[@jeep6242]

At least he is a P rego. The other tools have been driving longer than that kid has been alive and still have not figured it out lol.

[@jonnothetrucker]

All the power in the world and still no clue

[@steiny3353]

@@GrumpysBeast ..You would think that SOMEONE would tell him about tyre pressure....even if common sense doesn't.

[@markgeerin5928]

Its amazing that just a simple thing like letting your tyres to the right psi makes all the difference. All these much capable 4x4 gettng stuck and just last week I drove the same spot with my tyres at 15 psi and had no troubles and I only drive V200 GW Stock.

[@simpsonservices6463]

it is funny watching their faces when a Greatwall v200 makes them look stupid. mine has a 2inch lift bull bar and comforcer 4x4 tyres does the job. forgot to add, for my winches (front and rear) I also carry boat sand anchors so I can self recover, once out I drive over them and they pull out easy as.

[@OffroadCartel2008]

This is impressive! We love your videos! When they are bogged BEFORE there is any weight on the strap is impressive .... “I got this” 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣

[@yarpos]

and this is one the way back, have they spent their whole stay getting bogged??

[@brentseano344]

Videos like this makes me glad I live in the west. This place looks like a freeway.. not my idea of getting away from it all.

[@svsirenespirit5520]

Yeah you guys are lucky over there. QLD was a beautiful place until it was invaded by every dickhead south of the border or from across the ditch. Now its just stupidity in GQs and 80/100s and no fish. Sad really.

[@ludrock2]

What a great place to go to get away from the crowds.

[@braydendonnelly8388]

brings a tear to my eyes .....the future leaders of this country

[@thomjanson9644]

Could listen to that TD42 all day long.. but that guys driving skills 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@davidunwin7868]

Now we know that P Plate stands for PSI. That patrol at the start was the saddest thing I've ever seen.

[@antiquityandtheantsundergr429]

Broke my heart poor kid just has no idea

[@BL-mf5dn]

Patrol guy with the P plate is unbelievable!

[@wadedixon6780]

Wouldn’t be surprised if the government restricts the amount of driving on beaches soon with the amount of accidents happening at the moment.

[@12321bennyg]

What kind of accidents? (from Victoria and I don't really hear about them)

[@mark2073]

They restrict everything else, why not

[@wadedixon6780]

@@12321bennyg one example is of a young bloke doing circles around a group of people playing soccer on the beach. The 4wd struck one of them in the head with its tray and the victim received brain damage. When the police asked the driver what they could do to try and deter people from driving dangerously, he replied “nothing, I’m just young and stupid and I’ll probably keep doing it” 🙄

[@tomstephenson2410]

The f wit in the patrol should have let his tires down. 40psi from a Smokey td4.2 won’t help ya if you don’t know how to drive it!

[@garyjames5292]

Yeah letting tires down would be a must. But he wasn't the one bogged in the first place.

[@ohanyan1]

So many manual transmissions. The best is when they go full throttle in 1st, try to make a quick shift to second, at which point the tires completely stop moving and then a clutch dump with tires completely stopped into 2nd. Automatic transmissions are a thing. They do very well these days. Get some good tires, air them down and go. So many of these guys slowing down way too much.

[@jdoubles]

P-Plater gets stuck. P-Plater goes to help, gets stuck. P-Plater goes to help stuck P-Plater helping stuck P-Plater. I know they're young, and making mistakes is how you learn...some things. Reading, watching videos... ON THIS CHANNEL!!!!!!...is another REALLY valid way of learning. Not ending up on this channel is proof of learning. All of this said, this is still piss funny, and extremely entertaining.

[@zoezoe610]

Always amazes me hoe people get on and off the accelerator and kill their momentum.

[@davidunwin7868]

that LC at the end pulling the 3x utes sounds like a WWII aircraft taking off

[@jeep6242]

Why is that guy in the Ford driving at such a high RPM? OMG

[@mark2073]

Stuck in low 1st? No wonder he got stuck

[@narg87]

so painful to watch that Patrol

[@stevenhann1496]

That is painful to watch, not much between the ears

[@yarpos]

P plates, what can you expect? ambition exceeds ability and experience

[@heidistubbs1689]

Did you offer a hand to teach or just jaw off

[@stevenhann1496]

@@heidistubbs1689 haha

[@bentheguru4986]

Funny watching city boys and their toys, road tyres still at road pressures. The GU4 witht he ZD30 did a pretty impressive job.

[@fluchtigziege3202]

LMAO why the hell is the troll driver trying to destroy his kettle? let the tyres down bro lol

[@riamriam6758]

Concrete a metal sign in saying “now give it a real go” because you know they can’t pull a sign out let alone get unstuck.

[@Pretzil43]

Oh God, it never ends

[@anguselmslie7783]

I don't get why more people didn't just come over and tell em to lower their tyre pressure

[@tonesbones502]

What I don't understand is why don't people tell them to lower their PSI instead of just recording with a grin?

[@AllTerrainAction]

Time to bring our Adventra and see if we get featured 🤣🇦🇺👌

[@smee8721]

I’m not a 4x4 expert but the guys with street tyres driving in sand… special

[@ptph37]

I made it to 7 minutes, then thought the better option would be to go west and do some fishing on the Balonne or the Condamine. Would be much quieter too.

[@andyc1175]

This is pure Gold..........

[@antiquityandtheantsundergr429]

How on earth do you guys watch this without crying lol. I want to rip some of them out of their cars and hand them deflaters stat. Lol shakes head got my dad to thank for teaching me the fundamentals of 4x4

[@stevem540i]

😂😂😂 People trying to recover others that can't even make their own way through

[@notanotherutubeuser]

hah "40 psi club" love it

[@robbiebob6267]

In the beach driving game right tyer pressures is everything & critical!... My god... What a bunch of cowboys.

[@colinbeveridge9689]

Haha Greg in the background pissing myself laughing 😂

[@l-shizzle8678]

Few hero’s here who’s ego is too big to let their tyres down.

[@TheMx5Channel]

4:25 I'm not a expert and far away from 4wd life, but he's tires look pretty bad, are tires with big chunks not alot better at grabbing sand?

[@InvisageStudios]

40PSI club.... we talking about tyre pressures here or what?

[@johntowe4371]

Lol how’s the guy that’s bogged feeling when the recovery guy looks like he’s dragging an anchor lol

[@brownie8235]

That partol is best sticking to the hard stuff.

[@TheTim69]

That colarado/rodeo, fuck it must weigh 12 tonnes.

[@ian9toes]

9:40 tow truck doing it with ease

[@eastcorkmarine]

I would hate to be a 4 wd in Australia! I can't take this !!!!!

[@doomdragon1290]

🤣🤣Mate please don't let this sample of idiots have you believe that all us Aussies are that stupid.

[@eddieandrews3335]

4 wheel drive schools should advertise around here

[@officialWWM]

Why are there so many vehicles there? It’s like rush hour!

[@jeanchardonnay5627]

Ha ha ha ....I just love the title....

[@jameswillis8349]

What do you prove all your doing is destroying the tracks. STOP IT!!!!

[@mattrich7998]

Its ironic that the kid has a "Patrol Hub" sticker on his rear window because his sand driving skills are rooted.

[@05mg05]

Ease up mate.........you cant put brains in statues ;-)

[@Andre-hi9xn]

@@05mg05 "you cant put brains in statues" I think I'm gonna steal that phrase...

[@mattrich7998]

@@05mg05 I'm going to steal that as well haha

[@yarpos]

on his dads rear window

[@garyjames5292]

Yeah but he wasn't the one bogged in the first place

[@AndrewClelland]

Definition of stupidity... Doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result. I wonder when they struck oil??? LOL.

[@cannyscott]

Albert Einstein quote

[@rambocabales9830]

Insanity

[@AndrewClelland]

@@rambocabales9830 I know the original quote uses 'insanity'... But I didn't want to be that harsh :P ;)

[@royblackburn1163]

Not sure if that applies to me I've been married twice, have to say divorced is my favourite.

[@Freosfinest]

Personally when i see soft sand like this , i get my Kings air compressor out and make sure the tires are sitting around 50 PSI , these guys have gone way to low at 40PSI

[@incomprehensiblekerfuffle]

What!? Dude are you riding a tricycle in the sand or are you pulling the piss? you can't be serious

[@Michael467012]

Real men actually remove the tyres and run with the rims only. And keep pumping the throttle to show off the turbo whistle. Only through showing off how much power is under the bonnet will the sand be scared into submission.

[@Freosfinest]

@@incomprehensiblekerfuffle At 40 PSI , you run the risk of the tire coming off the rim, even running at 50 PSI is a risk - i think 55 PSI in this sand would be safest.

[@claywatt6168]

Agree. 50 mate. That's the go

[@amaclach]

More air so it floats better...

[@doomdragon1290]

🤣🤣I can't believe that young fool in the first p plate pootrol came back to disgrace himself for a second time

[@jonnothetrucker]

Glutton for punishment

[@Mouldyturnip75]

Lets not forget his sidekick on the lux with, oversized ego and overinflated tyres. Peanut gallerg.

[@waddney4121]

QUEENSLANDER www.change.org/XXXXBitter

[@Jipby54]

He probably just went away to wind more boost in 🤣🤣

[@jonnothetrucker]

@@Jipby54 that's right, because more power fixes everything right? 🤣🤣🤣

[@kenny7713]

Don’t they wonder why everyone else is just cruising past

[@yarpos]

arent they coming back ? you would think they would have it sorted

[@onestgermain]

Magic!

[@svsirenespirit5520]

Good question, I was wondering that myself.

[@antiquityandtheantsundergr429]

Including big f ing trucks lol

[@SingaporeSling1]

IQ is inversely proportional to tyre pressure.

[@jarred3424]

Don’t u mean directly proportional...

[@terrykimd]

No, he means inversely. More pressure= less neuron activity in the brain.

[@jarred3424]

@@terrykimd Idk cause regardless 40psi is low for an iq anyway bahaha

[@personlikeu]

Im 5 min in and dont know if i can watch any more... :)

[@theroasters5840]

You did well to get to the 5 minute mark Samuel

[@danielayris3623]

I bet you've never ever been stuck. You are a true hero.

[@LongLiveJuiceWRLD999]

@@danielayris3623 been stuck but I’ve never been on the beach with 40PSI 😂

[@danielayris3623]

@@LongLiveJuiceWRLD999 i was having this "talk" with old mate at work. He believes you should let them down when you get stuck, I belive in doing it before and just in case.

[@carsella11]

@@danielayris3623 ummm. Yes. Once. Then I listened to an old bloke who basically explained to not be the guy in the 4.2. Never been stuck since.

[@MrFurai]

Multiple villages who were missing their idiots found them at inskip point where all the village idiots go for their get togethers.

[@mark2073]

And breed more village idiots

[@mervcooper5938]

The village idiot redistribution centre of excellence

[@jwbodey]

our village does not have an idiot so we all take turns.

[@rosscomerford4274]

And came out ringing their bells :)

[@SH6666.Cruiser]

Not gonna lie when I saw the thumbnail and 40PSI club I thought you were refering to boost not tyre pressure XD

[@deanburrows3504]

Me too mate

[@michaelreifenstein]

all the boost in the world wont help if you can't float over the sand.

[@MrOffroader3]

Don't the people bogged with the same vehicles as the guy idling along pulling a 21ft caravan thru the soft stuff with ease ,hmm what am I doing wrong 🥴

[@jonnothetrucker]

How embarrassed would you be when a tow truck cruises past

[@Mouldyturnip75]

Yeah, maybe more loud pedal will help cause i haven't tried that yet.

[@MrOffroader3]

Nah my tyres are better I will just wait till I get bogged to the diffs then I will let some air out 🤦

[@svsirenespirit5520]

Nope, obviously not.

[@Justinvz123]

That P player in the patrol... Couldn't pull the skin off a custard...😂😂😂

[@batmanlives6456]

It’s a Nissan (dog of a Datsun)

[@Darndiddlyarn]

I can smell the kettle boiling from here.

[@dubbbs]

"I know, I'll throttle stomp it! That'll work!" - this guy, every single time.

[@simpsonservices6463]

yep all the gear with no idea

[@phsycho1693]

Yeah old mate in the patrol gives it the berries and buries himself every single time before he even gets a chance to go anywhere haha. Good job sooty 💪💪

[@Cammo-vp1gl]

Yeah and he’s even got his own black smoke screen so people can’t see how stupid he looks🤣🤣🤣🍺🍺🍺🇦🇺

[@incomprehensiblekerfuffle]

@@Cammo-vp1gl Rolling coal :PPPP what a muppet of a P plater

[@Michael467012]

I don't understand how they can't see that when they give it all power with no momentum, they just sink straight down. You can literally see the Patrol drop 10cm into the sand. Then they pump the throttle to make it even worse. Traction is what there is very little of and they do everything they can to break it. Yeah sweet, we can hear all the mods but it doesn't help the situation at all. Meanwhile, a Mazda Tribute cruises through like it's nothing.

[@adamsimpson2041]

@@Michael467012 He just thinks he didn't have enough power. He'll go home and put more boost in. Then head back to fraser and do exactly the same crap.

[@neutronstorm]

Two red P platers at inskip. Awesome.

[@mechanic7430]

I live in Perth and I'm seriously considering a holiday to this place and camp here for a week. the entertainment quality is outstanding! 🤣😂

[@russe19642]

Im from perth originally but in queensland now for 6 years and sand is a rarity over here,western australia is all sand its like they invented it,its more rock granite and mud here so sand driving doesnt come natural especially if your north of 1770

[@tocobb7747]

im from near inskip. it wears off pretty quickly for entertainment

[@jamesgeitz6719]

After watching this I'm now convinced some people just want to get on "Bogged Action" whether they look totally ridiculous & incompetent or not!

[@darthvader8433]

A cooked TD42 costs about $10k. A tyre deflator costs about $30. The P plates say it all.

[@tonymiller5841]

I'm on P plates, yet somehow I get down to 10psi.... That's not about P plates, that's about doing your homework and actually studying before going out.

[@officialWWM]

You can buy cheap traction boards on eBay for 79 bucks 🙄😂

[@grumpy-g5s]

@@officialWWM i live on the beach front 12 mile of sand in 30 years never needed a traction board , they are the L plate of 4wdrivers and the the only reason 4wd channels use them is for advertising to make money

[@officialWWM]

@@grumpy-g5s I’ve used them to get other people unstuck but I’ve never actually used them myself 🤔

[@grumpy-g5s]

@@officialWWM a great conversation starter when someone is stuck and needs help is “ let’s use your recovery gear “ lol

[@9002alex]

New sticker ideas guys “All the gear and no idea. #inskip2020

[@jimmehvideos]

And not a maxtrax in sight! 🤣

[@Drewderpderpderp]

I own a Toyota but even I am feeling sorry for that nissan

[@richardblanco4938]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Andre-hi9xn]

LOL

[@anthonybatchelor2316]

Ya all boost no brains

[@grahamv1068]

Added about 100 000km wear to the engine travelling 30m lol

[@tshephard2793]

🤣

[@steiny3353]

RTD-42 doesn't have any bulge whatsoever in his tyres (when you can see them on flat ground) it's painful to watch.

[@CruiserBrah]

He also needs to get it dyno tuned before it blows a hole in a piston for being so rich.

[@urallapradoadventures3586]

@@CruiserBrah nah soot gets the moot 😂 l was waiting for someone to put a kettle on his bonnet to make a cuppa.

[@CruiserBrah]

@@urallapradoadventures3586 hahahaa

[@dextermorgan5893]

Do any of these clowns know how to change gears before they valve bounce their engines all over the sand? I thought diesels were built for torque pulling power,not reving like a rotary🤣

[@Land_Raver]

Give that man in the patrol a beer. He's got the heart of a lion and the tenacity of a serial rapist. "This is going to happen".

[@keinname353]

And the brains of a turkey..

[@JaxThaStuntman]

Oh fuck 😂

[@craigbarber4140]

When booking holiday, add an extra week to get through Inskip

[@phillsmith3809]

These vids cure me of wanting to go anywhere near Fraser.

[@craigbarber4140]

Not a place to escape and feel isolated

[@4x4CampingandAdventures]

Here we are in the natural inhabited area of the beach before you eyes you can see the 4wd owner sometimes they are intelligent and sometimes they are as smart as a plank of wood. Here we see the plank of wood type of 4wd owner with no clue how to drive on the beach you can see he is just spinning his wheels and making lots of what they call SOOT I believe this is a mating call for some 4wd owners to attract other male owners to there vehicles so they can discuss power figures from there Td42s.

[@ifminecrafthadfloods3659]

Read this in a David Attenborough voice

[@GlenB1963]

That was kaos. I loved every second of it. Did you notice the scrappy Mazda tribute made it through without a problem? Probably let their tyres down to 18psi aye? Champagne comedy

[@Snowddova]

"TD42s always overheat, especially on beach runs" Every beach run: 2:04 - 5:40

[@anbu999]

All soot but no go.

[@samallen28]

Easy for it to look like that when your running 40psi in road terrain tyres

[@Radswa_Chikinora]

Snapped Chassis 09.53!

[@brianjensen5200]

That tray had an unhealthy overhang!

[@Bigsoot7393]

This channel is no good! When I went to inskip I was all geed up for this extreme 4x4 challenge then when I arrived and aired my troopy down to 15psi I glided over the sand to the barge like it was tarmac absolute stitch up! Hahaha

[@123456789ronaldo]

I went to bribie island with my father in law. He was in an 3L auto mux and i was in a manual 3.2L ranger. I aired down to 10-12psi , he didnt air down. It was high tide. By the time we got to 2nd lagoon his gearbox was overheating, engine lights were on, and he broke every egg in the carton in his eski. I pretty much idled in 1st - 2nd gear high range.

[@farqueue]

this is a wonderful haiku

[@louisdreyer7523]

That's the way to go. 10- 12 psi on sand. But some guys never learn.

[@bradenownsyou]

Old mate in the patrol obviously gets off on looking like a goose

[@danielthornton3277]

Surprised the TD kettle didn't boil...was running for more than 5 minutes lol

[@Andre-hi9xn]

Well, after breathing all that smoke from the datsum, you must have been immune to covid!

[@MicksGarageDarts]

Nope just killed off what brain cells they had left.

[@owtinoz]

Can't wait for the "for sale" add for the patrol saying it's always been cared for and never abused

[@redroo12]

I love it "the 40 psi club" let see if we can get there first LOL

[@Vax42]

40psi and we ain't talking boost.

[@ilikechesseonmyballs]

They asked for 40psi of boost pressure. Instead they got 40psi of tyre pressure 🤣

[@Jipby54]

I think the only thing that would have made this video better is when Rdt42 was stuck under his own steam for a Toyota camry to come driving past 🤣🤣

[@samtimo3002]

Old mate in the TD42 might need a new turbo soon by the looks and sounds of it

[@JSH083]

That rodeo owner must not of measured twice & cut once with the snorkel 🤔🤦‍♂️

[@capncrack181]

Its not even on the correct side and deos intakes are on the right so idk why it has a hole in it

[@theroasters5840]

Probably a nappy disposal chute

[@seanrichard-preston6088]

I went to Fraser Island for the first time 2 weeks ago. Inskip was the only place I was concerned about getting bogged because of these videos. I sailed through like a dream in my ranger. There was softer sand trying to get fuel at the servo at orchid beach.

[@Lockeedman]

To successfully be in the 40psi club you need: a jimny

[@liamcooper5202]

Or a nav on 37x14 tyres XD

[@adamsimpson2041]

You need that extra psi in the jimny to weigh it down and stop it from just floating away.

[@Lockeedman]

@@adamsimpson2041 hahaha, fair

[@liamcooper5202]

@@adamsimpson2041 fill it with Argon you think?

[@batmanlives6456]

A frontal lobotomy

[@OffroadCartel2008]

This is impressive! We love your videos! When they are bogged BEFORE there is any weight on the strap is impressive .... “I got this” 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣 And the load on that strap doing the double tow to the cruiser with a boat

[@nathan100tz]

The load on the cruiser with the boat is same whether it's a Jimny or 15 jumbo jets pulling it out.

[@123456789ronaldo]

I would idle around them through the soft sand at 12psi

[@mark2073]

Says somethign when 2 peopel can push them out by hand

[@joshuaculross1387]

I was up there last weekend in my xtrail. Really wish I went through inskip. Just went to rainbow

[@jeanchardonnay5627]

That P plater in his patol doing the Michael Jackson's moon walk....

[@rossg9363]

9:47 the 4x4 on the back of the tow truck looks it has a broken chassis (the canopy on the back is on a large angle) 🤔

[@joshuaculross1387]

Was thinking that. Possibly overloaded?

[@tpv59]

me 2.

[@adrianp6138]

I'm sure there's a farmer who could use these clowns to plough a field or two

[@westralianoffroad]

The old loaded up GQ with a van just schools the lot of them hahaha. It’s poetry.

[@jdriver100]

The young fellas just wanted to pull each other off I mean pull each other out. Tuff way to learn but looks like they were haven fun.

[@Francois_Dupont]

they must be regular at Reddit

[@glensubtorq]

I guess this channel showed up in my suggested list because I been watching heaps of "Matt's Offroad Recovery" channel 🤣

[@TheSkskitey]

Good fun for the "P" platers , maybe they will learn one day sand driving is about tyre pressures :-)

[@jasenanderson8534]

Yep, bet you now they had at least factory pressures and didn't even think about lowering.

[@johnnotte4017]

How hard is it to let the bloody tyres down im getting really tired of seeing this all there doing is chopping up tracks

[@AlphGen]

Gotta love a P plater in a patrol looking for the handgrenade effect

[@trueaussie3097]

Showing off for the lads

[@dkphantomdk]

lack of skills .. A short story, here in denmark we also have long beaches to drive, and back a few years ago I went there with my Subaru Impreza 1.5R, stock.. and at that same day there was an offroad beach rally with lots of patrols and other 4x4 moded vehicles.. I noticed they where all having fun in the soft sand ( like this place ) but most of them didnt make it far, to much power and got stuck. I was thinking about my little impreza, and wondered if it would make it, and since there was a lot of 4x4 and also towrobes around, I would like to try because they could pull me out again. What happen, well.. I dont have a huge engine 1.5 so I didnt spin my tires and I drove right across with not a single issue !.. ( the 4x4 club was stunned ! )