AIRBUS A320 WIND SHEAR DURING TAKE OFF

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Omar AL-TALIB

Omar AL-TALIB

Күн бұрын

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@MrParamedics
@MrParamedics 7 жыл бұрын
For anyone watching this video entirely confused, here's some information: Wind shear is a loss of lift and downdraft a plane can encounter due to weather. Most dangerous during landing and takeoff. "TOGA" stands for "Takeoff/Go Around" and is the maximum power setting on an airliner. "VR" Is the speed the plane 'rotates' up, to lift off the ground. Really enjoyed the video.
@oppotato5440
@oppotato5440 5 жыл бұрын
I thought windshear was when the wind rapidly changes that can cause a stall due to the lack of lift because the wind changed
@NOOne-li1pj
@NOOne-li1pj 4 жыл бұрын
Yes that’s correct wind shear stands for a sudden change of wind direction.
@aspecreviews
@aspecreviews 3 жыл бұрын
"Alpha Floor" is a software-imposed limit on how slow the plane can fly, to avoid stalling.
@norbert.kiszka
@norbert.kiszka 3 жыл бұрын
​@@aspecreviews nope. A. Floor is something like TO/GA. A. Floor makes full thrust not depending on current lever position.
@wiktoreriksson4566
@wiktoreriksson4566 2 жыл бұрын
@@norbert.kiszka Wanna be exact, the Alpha Floor is the region of speed where the air speed is too low and the Angle of Attack, or alpha, will increase to a stall. A. FLOOR A/THR forces TO/GA to get out of the floor
@EdgyNumber1
@EdgyNumber1 7 жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder how a fully automated system would deal with wind shear. good video.
@audigex
@audigex 5 жыл бұрын
The automated system detects it, and there’s a prescribed procedure the pilots follow... so the short answer is that it would handle things in the same way, possibly even better due to faster reaction times
@sq8409
@sq8409 4 жыл бұрын
@@audigex Yes, and according to the memory items, if you already have AP engaged, you keep it on, only thing you have to do is to set TOGA
@matthendricks9666
@matthendricks9666 3 жыл бұрын
@@audigex Yeah? How so? Since it cannot detect a windshear in the takeoff run until 3 seconds after liftoff.
@851995STARGATE
@851995STARGATE 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthendricks9666 that doesn't make sense, even if there is windshear that isn't detected you could make an algorithm to feel it based on the planes behavior anyway
@tb46475
@tb46475 2 жыл бұрын
@@audigex Not better, you can see the pilots notice it and react before the aircraft announces it
@alvarohernandezpinto2528
@alvarohernandezpinto2528 8 жыл бұрын
excelente video.....muy buena instruccion y acertada la ayuda visual de los instrumentos y lista de chequeo en cada fase.....quiero ver todos sus videos así de ésta forma.....gracias desde colombia.
@ReveredDead
@ReveredDead 3 жыл бұрын
What is terrifying is how fast it occurs and just how close the plane comes to a stall. The split second airspeed bleed and drag on the aircraft. Any roll in either direction would've rolled the plane over and it would've been all over at that altitude.
@NizarBE
@NizarBE 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but he kept climbing high while in windshear.
@lucaspusparajah9765
@lucaspusparajah9765 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is the a320 in the video was in normal law, and that means you cannot stall no matter how much you pull back on the sidestick.
@Lak62_101
@Lak62_101 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucaspusparajah9765 Yeah under normal conditions its almost impossible but during an wind shear even an A320 can stall.
@lucaspusparajah9765
@lucaspusparajah9765 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lak62_101 If it's in normal law, the a320 can't stall no matter how much you pull back, even during a windshear. You can pull back all the way and hold it there, and it will not stall.
@Alexander-hk5ke
@Alexander-hk5ke Жыл бұрын
@@lucaspusparajah9765 absolutely true, but if your indicated airspeed drops below Vs due to the wind changing from head 20 to 60 tail for example and you find yourself at 80 kias instead of 160 then the normal law will kick in, probably push down (if it does that during windshear as well) and trigger TOGA if it hasnt already been selected manually but at that point the plane can barely be recovered from this stall at a low altitude
@petersolien5696
@petersolien5696 Жыл бұрын
Nice! It's good to learn something even no experience plane pilots just incase of emergency as a passenger.
@PengembaraBiruMinecraft
@PengembaraBiruMinecraft 3 жыл бұрын
01:28 Windshear
@hiflyer2270
@hiflyer2270 3 жыл бұрын
Why turning during wind shear recovery procedures
@sky173
@sky173 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I would dread being on the flight, lol. That plane would be bouncing all over the place!
@Dante1243
@Dante1243 4 жыл бұрын
1:28
@cuneytcomuk4387
@cuneytcomuk4387 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for Turkish Airlines and its captains.
@Silenthunter199
@Silenthunter199 7 жыл бұрын
Last time i had windshear ahead on my FSlabs A320 takeoff. It ended by crash XD
@GameMichi
@GameMichi 7 жыл бұрын
well a great addon meeting wind physics of FSX...
@chr0sser978
@chr0sser978 7 жыл бұрын
Ive only ever had one windshear after takeoff, 4th flight with PMDG 737, i recovered but afterwards it was climbing with V/S of over 10.000ft/m, also i want to ask you, do you have FSUIPC? If yes free or purchased? Because i have the free version, but my flight controls keep bugging out which makes it impossible to fly sometimes, so i wanted to know maybe its something with FSUIPC...
@DJW411
@DJW411 Жыл бұрын
Would you follow the turn as they did in a wind shear manoeuvre
@winstonchurchill3597
@winstonchurchill3597 Жыл бұрын
No.
@ilyasait9346
@ilyasait9346 6 ай бұрын
I was looking for this comment, and the answer is nope!
@jcpilot29
@jcpilot29 3 жыл бұрын
This a very nice video, why did you stop posting more training videos? 👍
@ahmadsul9835
@ahmadsul9835 8 жыл бұрын
good job man 👍👍👍
@kbuss10
@kbuss10 2 жыл бұрын
thats cool and all but is it CHECKED??????
@benedictnerva7135
@benedictnerva7135 8 жыл бұрын
brilliant
@SnaxDesAvions
@SnaxDesAvions 7 ай бұрын
very informative, I would have thought that the pilot would lower the nose to gain speed over gravity
@Firewolf_Daimyo
@Firewolf_Daimyo 4 ай бұрын
Hey Snax, the reason this doesnt happen is that the plane will protect the speed for us in this case, as the Airbus protection system will prevent pitch into a stall. So the pilot just needs to worry about keeping the pitch attitude up so as soon as the windshear stops the aircraft can climb as soon as possible. I just experienced this in a simulator today and if I didn't keep my nose up then we would've crashed! Came out of windshear just 200ft above the ground when I started at an altitude of 1500 ft.
@Blast-Forward
@Blast-Forward 4 жыл бұрын
How do the pilots know where direction that windshear is coming from? Might be tailwind, headwind, upward and downward, right? The acoustic warning is always the same, right?
@ignacio.hidalgove
@ignacio.hidalgove 4 жыл бұрын
The information is on the ND. Upper left side provides wind information!
@maluch792
@maluch792 2 жыл бұрын
Thats what the co-pilot is for. He opens his window and with his hand he feels where the wind is coming from and with what speed.
@redguard2529
@redguard2529 2 жыл бұрын
@@maluch792 🤣🤣
@Tubulce
@Tubulce Жыл бұрын
@@maluch792 HAHAHAHAA
@user-pw3tr1xg2x
@user-pw3tr1xg2x Жыл бұрын
​@@maluch792😂
@nissayheab8039
@nissayheab8039 2 жыл бұрын
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@Logan11thMEU
@Logan11thMEU 4 жыл бұрын
Windsheer from gpws during landing is kind of okay you just go TO/GA but during take off is really difficult 130 knots is real slow
@Arya-ov3ke
@Arya-ov3ke 3 жыл бұрын
Its the same
@dabeste6163
@dabeste6163 2 жыл бұрын
@@Arya-ov3ke Not exactly the same, during take-off the plane is a lot heavier, you don't have a lot of excess power. It will take much longer to gain a considerable amount of speed. During landing, the plane is much lighter, so using TO/GA thrust will have a much bigger effect.
@dgp320
@dgp320 2 жыл бұрын
Lol no. Windshear on APPR and Landing you go around no questions. A turbofan takes approx 8 secs to spool up and we dont want downdrafts or loss of lift during an approach to land.
@Logan11thMEU
@Logan11thMEU 2 жыл бұрын
@@dgp320 thats true. I was mainly thinking about jets
@maluch792
@maluch792 2 жыл бұрын
@@Arya-ov3ke *takeoff, 500ft* "monitor radar display..WINDSHEAR AHEAD! WINDSHEAR AHEAD! GO AROUND!" ok lets go around and takeoff again??
@MoRFaiR
@MoRFaiR 3 жыл бұрын
Why did they continue to climb at low speed? Wouldn't it be better to lower the nose and scatter in the horizon?
@manuelwinkler8074
@manuelwinkler8074 3 жыл бұрын
They did full thrust before. Reason might be that the plane loses height uncontrolled right after take off and they try to get the plane up no matter what. Mentour Pilot explains it very well kzbin.info/www/bejne/poGYi2qVrZ6Ie80
@becomeister1
@becomeister1 3 жыл бұрын
No can do, lowering the nose is how you die. You see, windshear has a very intense downburst wind which pushes the aircraft towards ground, we follow the aircrafts speed reference system (SRS) with TOGA thrust, which gives a value of 17.5 degrees pitch up, if SRS unavaliable we again pitch up to 17,5 degrees. With TOGA, that pitch value gives an optimum climb value in intense downbursts which is key to survival.
@bayly1977
@bayly1977 3 жыл бұрын
Airbus procedure is follow there srs. Lowering the nose would not be a good idea
@ilyasait9346
@ilyasait9346 6 ай бұрын
That's why the PM never calls "Speed Speed" otherwise the PF will instinctively lower the nose to gain speed and the outcome is no a bueno. In the event of a windshear, pilots fly the Angle of Attack and in the Airbus it is called the SRS, referred to Speed reference system and in case of no Flight director, pilots will pitch to 17.5 degrees. Hope that helps :)
@winstonchurchill3597
@winstonchurchill3597 Жыл бұрын
Why did they do a Flex T/O in those conditions? TOGA T/O takeoff would of been prudent.
@noway9880
@noway9880 8 ай бұрын
...obviously in this scenario windshear is unexpected. you wouldn't knowingly t/o into windshear toga or no. but yes, if windshear above 100knots toga power is set. if below, it's rejected and the mawfucka stops
@winstonchurchill3597
@winstonchurchill3597 8 ай бұрын
@@noway9880 Well it's not realistic training to have a completely unexpected windshear. When I was at the regionals they would play these stupid games. At the majors I find training to be much more real world grounded and better overall.
@Tcastilh
@Tcastilh Жыл бұрын
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@KukosEQ
@KukosEQ 6 жыл бұрын
All great, but why they did not abort take-off when 3 times IAS stoped during roll? What is smart to takeoff in those conditions? Maybe was better reject and delay take-off?
@orhunaltug8430
@orhunaltug8430 4 жыл бұрын
KukosEQ the goal of this simulation is to deal with wind shear mid-air. In normal conditions takeoff would be aborted due to speed oscillations
@AlpayYi
@AlpayYi 2 жыл бұрын
Windshear came after V1, so aborting takeoff is not an option anymore
@LuLeBe
@LuLeBe Жыл бұрын
​@@AlpayYiyeah but even at 80kts, well below the 100kts high speed gate, the speed got "stuck" for quite a while. I'm not sure what the procedure is but it was definitely still allowed to stop.
@bonbondesel
@bonbondesel 5 жыл бұрын
I guess that in real operation, the crew would have verbalized the clues of a possible wind shear during the takeoff run. Not to mention the briefing would have clearly notified this risk regarding the weather conditions. Can someone tell me if the crew have to verbalize these strong wind changes before V1 and Vr in order to prepare to a possible wind shear ?
@pabloxderte3070
@pabloxderte3070 5 жыл бұрын
Those oscillations in speed before V1 always have to be notified for both pilots. Take Off should be interrupted
@peteconrad2077
@peteconrad2077 3 жыл бұрын
@@pabloxderte3070 NO.
@alphasiera1757
@alphasiera1757 2 жыл бұрын
Are you supposed to pull up all the way?
@mosd3545
@mosd3545 2 жыл бұрын
Yes if necessary
@nguyenthanhminh4047
@nguyenthanhminh4047 3 жыл бұрын
50kts wind?
@ahmadsul9835
@ahmadsul9835 8 жыл бұрын
I hope to see emergency decent and TCAS warning
@thicc800ty
@thicc800ty 3 жыл бұрын
follow tcas first
@Pagong27
@Pagong27 4 жыл бұрын
Attitude indicator: WINDSHEAR Me: wtf
@behonest9500
@behonest9500 3 жыл бұрын
Plz can someone till me what the last part of information what it was ,, plz .. thnx
@Vass22
@Vass22 7 жыл бұрын
Why are they turning if they haven't confirmed that they are out of windshear yet? Strange.
@EdgyNumber1
@EdgyNumber1 7 жыл бұрын
Vass22 You might not have a choice if you are heading towards restricted airspace or an obstacle... or a thunderstorm/hail
@peteconrad2077
@peteconrad2077 3 жыл бұрын
He’s accelerating well and clear of shear when he makes the turn.
@bayly1977
@bayly1977 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdgyNumber1 airspace should be secondary to wind shear escape
@tagredyigit7595
@tagredyigit7595 10 жыл бұрын
Nice
@Valentin_MeL
@Valentin_MeL Жыл бұрын
20 degrees pitch during windshear and you almost hit stall speed. If that was at max take off weight you would probaly stall. I don't think it's such a good idea to use this high pitch angle during windshear, even if flight directors wants you to do that. i guess you really need to say thanks to engeners that created alfa floor.
@duk2k
@duk2k 2 жыл бұрын
FO be screaming in your ears LOL
@dr_campylobacter5317
@dr_campylobacter5317 4 жыл бұрын
U should report to ATC to do “windshear escape”.And then, u should report to complete that .
@techmonster2632
@techmonster2632 4 жыл бұрын
Why he didnt decrease the climb rate
@LaborchefDrKlenk-gb8rv
@LaborchefDrKlenk-gb8rv 4 жыл бұрын
Because windshear happens near the ground and you want to escape it as fast as possible, meaning you want a high vertical speed, meaning you follow the SRS command. Every windshear is unique, this procedure has the best odds.
@rayanaltowayan9558
@rayanaltowayan9558 4 жыл бұрын
@@LaborchefDrKlenk-gb8rv what about stalling?
@thicc800ty
@thicc800ty 3 жыл бұрын
@@rayanaltowayan9558 a320 wont stall under normal law
@rayanaltowayan9558
@rayanaltowayan9558 3 жыл бұрын
@@thicc800ty I just find it hard to believe that if I yank the side stick full aft the aircraft won't stall
@peteconrad2077
@peteconrad2077 3 жыл бұрын
@@rayanaltowayan9558 1. You aren’t necessarily yanking it full back. Just following what SRS demands. 2. On an airbus full back stick is just a command for max g or alpha, whichever is more limiting.
@tameryigit737
@tameryigit737 6 жыл бұрын
Van - Ferit Melen Havaalanı...
@OfficalGamer-mv2qo
@OfficalGamer-mv2qo Жыл бұрын
Why plane over 5000 feet when it was on ground? 💀
@rakxk
@rakxk Жыл бұрын
It means 5000ft over sea level, the airport elevation is then 5000 feet.
@mog882
@mog882 2 жыл бұрын
When he called the tower he gave a PIREP saying, “Windshear between 500 and 7000,” I am assuming he meant, “700 Ft.” Anyone feel this may not be the case for the radio call?
@mustafaugurbaskn2971
@mustafaugurbaskn2971 Жыл бұрын
He should've said 5000 and 7000 feet.
@thusuongtranthi7970
@thusuongtranthi7970 4 жыл бұрын
Dây bọc nhựa, 1 mm
@ghazwanaboud4353
@ghazwanaboud4353 7 ай бұрын
forgot A/C type
@asotelles
@asotelles 2 жыл бұрын
shouldn't he down the nose? like at least a little
@supersonicfroot
@supersonicfroot 2 жыл бұрын
From what I know, Airbus procedures for LOW altitude stall warnings (during climb out, at least) are to pitch the nose moderately up and give TO/GA power. I believe this is because you can't really trade altitude for airspeed this close to the ground, and pitching down, though it might increase the airspeed faster, could also lead to (obviously) a descent. It's a different game when you have altitude to spare and you can stall at a much lower AoA up high. This has been theorized to be part of the reason Air France 447 kept trying to pull their nose up even as they stalled right down into the Atlantic they were applying the low altitude stall warning recovery scenario to a high altitude stall that requires you to pitch down.
@alanjackson526
@alanjackson526 7 жыл бұрын
Text book
@winstonchurchill3597
@winstonchurchill3597 Жыл бұрын
Not really.
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 жыл бұрын
They speak like they are scared or not too sure..
@a318snose4
@a318snose4 2 жыл бұрын
more like serious
@MnbTvs
@MnbTvs Жыл бұрын
He said "chat"when they started to rolling i guess he wanted to say "checked"instead of "chat"😂
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