@@andrulifts The pilots switched to alternate law before they stalled the aircraft.
@trenchjp20654 жыл бұрын
@@BestFredBull Wrong, the plane switched itself due to unreliable airspeed.
@Dome313374 жыл бұрын
Airbus does not MCAS because nearly all inputs from the pilots are being altered by the computer in the first place.
@struvrim76374 жыл бұрын
@@trenchjp2065 wrong, 6:47
@trenchjp20654 жыл бұрын
@@struvrim7637 ???????? - I was talking about AF447
@aviationforlive74346 жыл бұрын
How to recover from a Stall in a Airbus Aircraft: Just don’t touch the controls and watch
@aspecreviews5 жыл бұрын
An Airbus never stalls in normal circumstances.
@mr_sowong94644 жыл бұрын
@@aspecreviews Any aircraft won't stall under normal circumstances
@nikapls4 жыл бұрын
@@mr_sowong9464 lol
@raadhikasharma22593 жыл бұрын
@@mr_sowong9464 pretty sure he meant Normal Law. 💁
@aspecreviews3 жыл бұрын
@@raadhikasharma2259 Yep, I meant normal law...
@mattj72656 жыл бұрын
Video in a nutshell 1.Stall warning comes on 2.descend the aircraft to gain speed 3.once enough speed is gained pull up aircraft 4. Resume flight
@Dome313374 жыл бұрын
Simple. Where can I apply as pilot?
@aurelien2213 жыл бұрын
Tell this to flight AF447 ^^
@LemonChieff3 жыл бұрын
1. AP/AT off 2. AOA reduced 3. Roll controlled 4. Speed managed 5. Stall recovered
@peteconrad20773 жыл бұрын
It’s not about speed or descending. It’s lowering the nose to reduce the alpha.
@sabinhong03073 жыл бұрын
@@aurelien221 they got stuck at 2. descend the aircraft to gain speed. Well, more like one person got stuck.
@HotKeyGaming694 жыл бұрын
Wow a Stall warning lets Pitch up -Air france 447
@louco369573 жыл бұрын
dumbass pilots!
@CaptainKA3204 жыл бұрын
However, despite this being taught from the start of your PPL right through to type rating on an airliner, this is still a large part of all accidents recorded. Always remember. it's back to basics.
@samruddhamane71066 жыл бұрын
Thanks mindaugas and dusan for sharing knowledge and passion
@s3oodi16 жыл бұрын
in the stall recovery memory item. it clearly says "THRUST……..INCREASE SMOOTHLY AS NEEDED", not TOGA, because the sudden dramatic increase in thrust can enter you into an upset And it is "AUTOTHRUST" not Throttle
@ipechman5 жыл бұрын
s3oodi1 you need to calm down
@miketel014 жыл бұрын
"Auto Throttle" in a Beautiful Betty, Mc Donnell Douglas
@hayhay77894 жыл бұрын
oh boy another youtube comment captain lmao. as if the word choice fucking matters
@s3oodi14 жыл бұрын
@@hayhay7789 the word choice does matter. I wouldn't expect you to understand ;)
@hayhay77894 жыл бұрын
@@s3oodi1 yeah no you’re just a know it all
@user-eu2me4bp7j4 жыл бұрын
I think of Airfrance 447 :(
@struvrim76374 жыл бұрын
they shutdown everything and then set plane in STALL configuration and then hold plane in STALL configuration
@YCS-vk4et4 жыл бұрын
@@struvrim7637 they did not shutdown everything the stall protection system was not working
@aurelien2213 жыл бұрын
@Will D "Any pilot will tell you that's basic aviation." Absolutely. It's hard to believe they were pilots.
@louco369573 жыл бұрын
the AF447 pilots were a lot of stupidity. They DIDN'T nose down the aircraft!
@IntellectualHazard6 жыл бұрын
I wonder how Pranas Dullis is???
@GregorChristie6 жыл бұрын
He is currently flying as a Q400 captain for airBaltic as of November 2017 (before that he started as a first officer on the Q400 from 2014-2017)
This is a demo of a deep stall recovery technique, the actions stipulated in the QRH should be taken at the first sign of stall, buffet, aural etc, nose down pitch control.... apply (not 15 degrees)
@matheusmagno31216 жыл бұрын
Resembles AF447, A330 which crashed after going into an aerodynamic stall (ALT laws), caused by pilot error, over the Atlantic, July 2009.
@IntellectualHazard6 жыл бұрын
When the side stick moves... It feels like the whole universe is moving
@gurb4371 Жыл бұрын
For example AF447 Air France crash from rio , how does one get out of a stall tho, I understand the pilot was pulling up the whole time which was the problem but falling 3000m per minute should he just have pulled down? Sorry I know nothing about planes but I just want to understand how they could have made it work. Thank you
@kinanatto2572 жыл бұрын
Good vid. Although plz update it since the stall recovery is different now as u know. Nose down. Advance power (as demanded) not a toga power with a dive of 15 degrees. Good job guys!
@nickjegard902 жыл бұрын
This is my understanding also (although not a pilot...). Slowly increase throttle or a secondary stall is very easy and have to fight to keep the nose down from that sudden thrust and the moment it creates. Do you know what is the 'correct' pitch angle suggested in training? I have seen people on youtube simply level off from a pitch up attitude and that seemed sufficient to exit the stall.
@kinanatto2572 жыл бұрын
@@nickjegard90 Just a couple of degrees below the horizon. No value is mentioned. Mind you, sometimes there is a lack of pitch authority that will force you to even decrease thrust more. Keep pushing the nose down below the horizon until the warning stops. Increase power smoothly as needed and regain your altitude... Just remember if you are below 20000 ft and in a clean configuration select flap one.
@nickjegard902 жыл бұрын
@@kinanatto257 really helpful response them you. I noticed if I put the a320 into alternate law and force it into a stall, even pitching up to the horizon can push it into a secondary stall and if I increase thrust it just compounds the issue as it pushes the nose up further, even if I give full forward sidestick. I'm so impressed with normal law protections, makes the plane extremely difficult/impossible to stall!
@freebeacher6 жыл бұрын
Thanks good explanation. So Air France crash was a secondary stall they never recovered from?
@mohameddahmani416 жыл бұрын
Autothrust please It's not 737
@davidca964 жыл бұрын
its the samething mewhammid
@-Wreckanize-4 жыл бұрын
@@davidca96 Not the same thing.
@slimtheowl4 жыл бұрын
@@davidca96 Nope
@jorgeforero55324 жыл бұрын
Amazing is so.easy but I remember of airfrance crash 330 good job!!
@abingdonboy4 жыл бұрын
On 447 the plane was in alternate law because the Pitot tubes were iced over. They were flying at night in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, very easy in hindsight to say these things but the reality is those guys were in a difficult situation
@carlosdamianmolina35994 жыл бұрын
Muy muy buena la instrucción 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🖒🌝 es impresionante el simulador 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏un sueño😍
@rashmiranjannayak32513 жыл бұрын
Attractive presentation and new student pilots well described with good coordination. Thanks for sharing.
@Dome313374 жыл бұрын
8:33 Setting the thrust levers to TOGA is plain wrong. First you have to pitch down the nose, get out of the stall and then apply gently (!) more thrust. Source: www.320memoryitems.com/post/stall-recovery
@peteconrad20773 жыл бұрын
I agree TOGA was unnecessary but you can apply thrust as soon as the warning ceases.
@william0203usa22 жыл бұрын
Also toga at about 25,000 is pretty much the same as climb thrust.
@GhostSheep966 жыл бұрын
But if it is that easy to recover an Airbus from stalling, even if ELAC fails, why did the Air France Aribus crashed in 2009?
@mohamedabderrahmenhamra63026 жыл бұрын
Ghost yeah true but speed indicator was false it was indicating about 240 or 260 knts while stalling
@tamimfaisal33006 жыл бұрын
Ghost I think because their pitot tubes were frozen and they were not getting their airspeed correctly
@GhostSheep966 жыл бұрын
Oh okay, so the Pilots didnt know they where stalling?
@mohamedabderrahmenhamra63026 жыл бұрын
Ghost affirmative cuz it was so dark
@GhostSheep966 жыл бұрын
Tamim Faisal oh okay, thank u:)
@Red_Baron946 жыл бұрын
Really interesting clip as usual, Just a couple of considerations: in the first “fully developed stall” the a/c lost something like 5000ft, is it a normal performance? It’s a huge margin required, specially while overflying high terrain. Finally, talking about the FBW control laws, is it possible to enter a spin and recover from it? Thank you.
@pt4m4 жыл бұрын
04:40 Nice presentation captain!! But you can replace the word "stupid" in your presentation with the word "Bonin"!! Its exactly the same!!!
@peteconrad20773 жыл бұрын
You don’t know what the hell you’re on about.
@kris.yochev6 жыл бұрын
As I was watching I remember one of the last flight lessons before I soloed which was stall recovery but in a Cessna 150 and I was like "I wanna try that in the sim of a large aircraft"
@veeravignesh45256 жыл бұрын
do some videos about a320 electrical systems...........
@felipebittner43326 жыл бұрын
Good idea
@YPOC6 жыл бұрын
I really like this video, and good presentation by Dusan and Mindaugas as well! One little question: What is the difference between the amber band and the red-black striped band that you can see at 8:59? Are these representing the aformentioned α_Prot and α_max speeds?
@nthoang12935 жыл бұрын
amber is @prot, where the protection mode is on for elevator, input is now direct proportional to sidestick. red is @max, stall. Also don't recover like the guys in this video this, completely wrong. Nose down to -10 and hold, no power input, let the speed come up, then raise nose and power gently. Not TOGA power, not 15 nosedown.
@derisim3 жыл бұрын
You need to tell me where does it says on FCTM to apply toga with nose down recovery....
@peteconrad20772 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t. These clowns didn’t do the drill.
@Bigalinjapan4 жыл бұрын
How will it react when hitting AFloor and starting to bank? Does nose down then come before bank limitations or the other way around?
@aspecreviews4 жыл бұрын
The maximum bank angle is limited to 45 degrees.
@Ali.Rahimy6 жыл бұрын
I LOOOVVVVEEEE IT AIRBUS IS LOVE
@jm_spotting22086 жыл бұрын
Ali Rahimy Go Airbus!!!
@farukche38486 жыл бұрын
#TeamAirbus
@franmont53656 жыл бұрын
Boeing
@stefanocozzi81884 жыл бұрын
AF 447 pilots should have watched this video :/
@abingdonboy4 жыл бұрын
On 447 the plane was in alternate law because the Pitot tubes were iced over. They were flying at night in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, very easy in hindsight to say these things but the reality is those guys were in a difficult situation
@tsramb235 жыл бұрын
They look like they are still in high school haha, but very good training video!
@theflyingtuba4 жыл бұрын
These guys are cuuuteee!
@musicstuff66706 жыл бұрын
Dušan? Are you from balkan?
@pt4m5 жыл бұрын
So basically in "normal law" is very hard to stall the plane on purpose right??? I guess the Air France 447 crew manage to do just that!!!!!
@aspecreviews5 жыл бұрын
The flight controller went into direct law.
@Seathal4 жыл бұрын
They weren't flying normal law.
@tomstravels5204 жыл бұрын
TheLittleAcura aka A-SPEC! ALT law
@paulmurphy426 жыл бұрын
But they didn't explain why the designers have given you the option to turn off the stall protection in the first place. If Normal Law is there to prevent you stalling, why would the designers want to give you the option of turning it off with Alternate Law?
@tharlynnoo5 жыл бұрын
paulmurphy42 In case of electrical failure Elac 1 and 2 or Sensors failure the plane will goes into alternate law because it cannot fly itself they are just simulating it by switching off the Computers
@paulmurphy425 жыл бұрын
@@tharlynnoo Thanks
@johnlaw38085 жыл бұрын
or in case of sensor malfunction, u can turn the protection off so case like 737 mcas doesn't happen
@junrenong8576 Жыл бұрын
Normally the aircraft will be in normal law. However, in special circumstances such as unreliable airspeed, ADR and IR failures, ELEC BUS failure, HYD failure etc the aircraft will automatically switch to Alternate Law (no protection), to let the pilots make the decision instead of the flight computers. Switching off ELAC 1 and 2 flight computers simulates the failures of ELAC 1 and 2, which will, by design, put the aircraft into alternate law manually to practice flight without flight control protection, such as upset recovery training (UPRT).
@NextGeneration95015 жыл бұрын
i can't stall the aerosoft a320 cfm in fsx. it turns on A.FLOOR and A/THR and pushes the nose down...
@iamgp33135 жыл бұрын
Just disable a.floor lol
@ryanbirge55053 жыл бұрын
what are the spinniny things next to the throttle?
@peteconrad20773 жыл бұрын
Trim wheels.
@benedetto2326 жыл бұрын
Very delicate subject. The theoretical explanation on the blackboard is lacking in some essential aspects and is not exhaustive. The stall should be treated first independently and only after seeing how the A320 avionics handles it. Even the simulation lacks some clarifications. I appreciate the attempt but I suggest improving the video. Thank you.
@potatomaaan17574 жыл бұрын
I don't even know how you'd manage to stall an A320 in the first place
@tomstravels5204 жыл бұрын
XL 888T. Frozen AOA sensors
@YAB1163 жыл бұрын
During direct law, it’s as easy as stalling a Cessna, because you won’t have any hard envelope protection from the fly by wire system.
@DD-ig8vx3 жыл бұрын
And to think that is all the pilots of AF447 had to do. Push the nose forward. Seems so simple.
@peteconrad20772 жыл бұрын
If only it were.
@hellodino93234 жыл бұрын
RIP SJ182:-(
@maherkahlous85913 жыл бұрын
For training purposes only? Damn so I can’t apply this when my jet stalls?
@peteconrad20772 жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t because it’s wrong in just about every way.
@adeels86566 жыл бұрын
Perfect Training I love it
@djordjestarcevic86434 жыл бұрын
Ajmo zemljače pokaži im kakvi smo na palici😀
@bmjake4 жыл бұрын
Two stripes on the shoulders and the watermark on the bottom right of the screen saying “do not use this for training”.. this is practice for students becoming instructors. Let’s not be too critical.
@yanblanchard6415 Жыл бұрын
La situation arrivée au vol AF447 EN mode ALTR LAW ?? Toujours du mal à comprendre l'action des 2 pilotes au commandes jamais tenter de pousser le joystick
@239karan3 жыл бұрын
The worst thing that can happen is being in alternate law and then entering an inadvertent stall
@MaxMax-wl3hh4 жыл бұрын
How old are you kids?
@yassirlife35324 жыл бұрын
He should not go down more than 2.5 degrees and maintain until green D speed and then recover 10 degrees up until out of stall
@peteconrad20773 жыл бұрын
Utter nonsense.
@0ki7o4 жыл бұрын
I feel like adding thrust would add unnecessary pitching moment. But hey I didn't design the plane.
@peteconrad20773 жыл бұрын
You have it add thrust to have the energy to complete the recovery.
@kjbull61005 жыл бұрын
15 Deg ND with TOGA applied and descending at 10,000fpm? Jesus wept. Please take this down. ps-autoTHRUST.
@nthoang12935 жыл бұрын
12000fpm to be exact, it's baffling how this video got the ok to go up on youtube
@ikerpascual82043 жыл бұрын
Maybe the SOPs from airbus were different 2 years ago when this was uploaded but at this day this is completely wrong.
@TheDominationNetwork5 жыл бұрын
So if you're in a stall in you get too anxious and pull back on the stick your screwed!
@LemonChieff3 жыл бұрын
Depends on altitude, speed, and thrust. At low altitude with TOGA thrust you can go nearly vertical. Angle Of Attack isn't pitch. A320 has aProt. you're not supposed to be able to stall the aircraft in normal conditions.
@captainwilliam64424 жыл бұрын
Omggggg m is soo cute the guy on the right in the beginning
@joaosantucci71264 жыл бұрын
Auto thrust, please! And the demonstration of High Angle of Attack would be better if you disengage the A/THR, to cut off the A/FLOOR, so that you can see the aerodynamic protection working without engine power. Just as a suggestion.
@NINOABSNABSN4 жыл бұрын
Air France 447
@Tom-zs1ev6 жыл бұрын
Procedure is not clearly neither correctly explained..You can do it better..
@majorskies70913 жыл бұрын
Just for those apocalyptic scenarios....
@markw11232 жыл бұрын
Good demo, but one suggestion. A320 does not have throttles, they are thrust levers. It's not 'Auto-throttle' , it's 'Auto-thrust'.
@Davykermis7776 жыл бұрын
but how about AF447?
@Davykermis7776 жыл бұрын
@@tomaten9477 thanks
@sniffadoghq5 жыл бұрын
Untitled Spot on in perfect laymans
@louco369573 жыл бұрын
AF447 were idiots keeping the nose up.
@truesonic3412 жыл бұрын
It’s a death wish Good luck trying to save everyone
@parismoonlight3 жыл бұрын
Dangerous procedure…
@rahulmax122 жыл бұрын
8:53 - to recover stall Applying TOGA power ??? Please don't show such things, it can be misleading and dangerous.
@willmorgan43506 жыл бұрын
How much does the A320 sim cost?
@Henry-3506 жыл бұрын
Between 500,000 to 4,000,000 USD
@ch4ob4y6 жыл бұрын
No, no, no the cost of full motion simulator is roughly the same as cost of aircraft. Each part must have certification.
@Henry-3506 жыл бұрын
Dominik Chrobak source on a full cost sim? Our instructors told us a full motion sim is around 4m. Static ones for example a DA-48 we had at the academy was roughly half a million
@Henry-3506 жыл бұрын
Dominik Chrobak an A320 costs 70million or more according to google. That’s wings, fuselage, wires, seats, doors, lighting, toilets etc etc A sim, albeit very complex and a marvel of engineering, in material alone, a fraction of a real plane
@dollypandey91393 ай бұрын
Airfrance 447
@RodrigoMMMRM6 жыл бұрын
Its not Autothrottle on Airbus but Autothrustyou need to study more!
@ankurtyagi71503 жыл бұрын
This is what when monkey fly. ROD was 11500 feet per minute in recovery. Which is actually not required. This can lead to excessive G load. You can easily recover with max of 6-7 thousand rate of descend.
@peteconrad20773 жыл бұрын
It depends on the depth of the stall.
@ankurtyagi71503 жыл бұрын
@@peteconrad2077 yeah I am talking about extreme situation. Try in sim next time
@peteconrad20773 жыл бұрын
@@ankurtyagi7150 the same applies in a real situation. Airbus stalled an A350 by accident in testing and required 12,000ft and 18,000 fpm in recovery.
@ianworley99985 жыл бұрын
your use of the word aoutothrottle is very annoying, its auto thrust, unless you can show me an airbus publication that specifies this new word
@denil95985 жыл бұрын
Cry
@nthoang12935 жыл бұрын
TOGA power and 15* nose down....jesus fuck. Lucky me I did not go to BAA for my TR then....goddamn
@joesiulsantoso57395 жыл бұрын
TOGA?????
@LemonChieff3 жыл бұрын
Yes, if appropriate. Take Off Go Around (TOGA) or 'full throttle' should be applied. You want to reduce the angle of attack as fast as possible. Speed does that. You need as much air as fast you possible over the wings. Otherwise you can enter a deep stall. You don't want that. Keep in mind that angle of attack isn't pitch.
@szuzmariacsatkai34964 жыл бұрын
I'd ship them, they'd make a nice couple lol
@NoTraceOfSense3 жыл бұрын
I’m not even surprised.
@kaesarromanova18763 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but this technique is wrong! Pitch -15 and firewall toga? No way my friend! Using your technique Vertical speed reaches -12000 ft/min and the pitch is so low that is hard to recover later! For recovery from stall the pitch should be between 0 and -5. When no longer stall warning inrease thrust SMOOTHLY!
@MohamedElmashi Жыл бұрын
No no no not good idea to set TOGA it's wrong
@djordjestarcevic86434 жыл бұрын
Cap.inst.max.25 years 😀😀😀
@guaranteedallauthentic60745 жыл бұрын
I want to marry a Pilot 😍
@jimmyview985 жыл бұрын
Basics of Stall Recovery on Airbus A320 "FOR FUCKS SAKE"
@CaptainFullHD4 жыл бұрын
Painful to watch (why have cadet student pilots poorly acting as instructors in the first place?) and a bit scary if that is what BAA teaches its students when it comes to stalls in the Airbus.
@hindenburg11134 жыл бұрын
Dont try at home
@davidca964 жыл бұрын
Air France pilots dont take this training
@honestrunescaper4 жыл бұрын
AIR FRANCE: Do not Watch this
@imdefinitelynotkyle6 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but your insane attractiveness is distracting me from the important information in this video
@Jimmybrianmike6 жыл бұрын
Haaa gayyy
@radioaustralia50704 жыл бұрын
Lol they look like kids oh gosh
@peteconrad20772 жыл бұрын
This is wrong and poor. They got the drill wrong. Incompetent training.
@truesonic3412 жыл бұрын
You have a zero chance of recovery. I don’t care how good of a pilot you are. It’s like a brick
@DG-po3gi4 жыл бұрын
A320 FOR FUCK'S SAKE
@lostmoon776 жыл бұрын
pilots with pompadours. #haha also, is that guy's name douche-an? #jesus
@MohamedElmashi Жыл бұрын
Wrong recovery 😂
@twavy45638 ай бұрын
So u a guy that’s not a pilot is trying to tell pilots they did it wrong pretty sure they know more then u