Installation And First Look At Lubuntu 24.10

[@bjarne431]

I used to run lubuntu on an intel atom compute stick, almost made the arom cpu feel like a modern cpu lol

[@wateryevents960]

Hey DT, with all the Ubuntu oriented content as of late, how about a look at Ubuntu Studio?

[@RedMountainsTech]

Great review of Lubuntu 24.10! Keep em coming.

[@philipwood7673]

That's a beautiful desktop background

[@chrisfromgreece-gr]

LxQt is cool you can have cool kvantum themes on your qt apps , you can use picom with blur transparency , select your favorite window manager from session settings because lxqt doesn't limit you to use a specific window manager i like using it with bspwm and chadwm which are my favorites. Lxqt is more like a base you can work on it and adapt it how you like it sometime i have an lxqt theme (miya etc) for the panel other times i remove it completely and use polybar you can do whatever you want and still have a desktop and settings manager that can help you configure your system.

[@syrefaen]

avx 512 is not a library its a cpu instruction set and a more complex then the more used avx2. Might have it on real hw or newish amd and intel cpu's.Theres a long list ..

[@blahaj___]

I used lubuntu for most of the 2010's , thanks for the review

[@joesalyers]

I tried this on hardware Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU and LXQT 2 seems to be about 80% complete. I love LXQT, The new Menu is way better than the old one and a nice touch to a pretty empty deaktop. Switching to default dark modes are nice but with the lack of KDE color themes any Plasma first app like Discover will be broken with dark mode. Why include the KDE plasma options with everything but the title bar stripped out? I think its growing pains but this seems like something that should have been found before release. I think that LXQT would do better in theming if they just included Breeze and Breeze Dark as defaults for the desktop. 90% of people would just use that, but they included badly broken theming. Now I know most maintainers probably set their themes and get to work but a ton of newbies coming to LXQT might want to try theming and the lack of a usable dark them in something as important as the software store is kind of a big issue! But I still have it installed in hopes of a bug fix in an update soon because I hate light themes to be honest.

[@cybernit3]

Be nice if the next version of Lubuntu has wayland support; I like that it only takes 600 Megs ram when you boot up compared to Ubuntu 24.10 Gnome 47 - 3 Gigs ram.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

I have Gentoo builds running Xorg and XFCE that take less than 300 megs RAM on boot up. Also nobody can show me Wayland running on a Thinkpad T22 from 2002 with a Pentium 3 CPU and 512MB RAM that runs "bloated and broken" Xorg perfectly fine.

[@cybernit3]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 My Amiga 500 in the early 90s ran on 512k ram, but had a 512k rom; it ran good when I had it at 2.5 megs ram with a 52meg HD. I have 32 Gigs ram, so it runs pretty good and never run out, just noticed the cache memory increases for long uptime then I just flush memory cache if need to. I heard about Gentoo, but it is rare anyone daily drives with it, a bit tough to use.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@cybernit3 "My Amiga 500 in the early 90s ran on 512k ram, but had a 512k rom; it ran good when I had it at 2.5 megs ram with a 52meg HD." I had several Amigas from the A500 to the A1200 myself, great machines. Yes, my first Internet connection was over dialup with an Amiga A1200 running at 14 MHz with 8 MB RAM using the iBrowse web browser. Good days! "I have 32 Gigs ram, so it runs pretty good and never run out, just noticed the cache memory increases for long uptime then I just flush memory cache if need to." Sure, I am just not a fan of Wayland. Xorg has worked perfectly fine for me for years and whilst it's not being developed, it is still maintained and has always worked well for me. I don't play AAA "games as a service" anyway and I don't use any of NVIDIA's proprietary rubbish, only Intel and AMD. Linux plays all the games (and emulated ones, like on the Amiga) I do play perfectly fine. "I heard about Gentoo, but it is rare anyone daily drives with it, a bit tough to use." I've used it as my main distro since 2003 now, I am very used to it and I like the fact I can build it on anything from a Raspberry Pi Zero to a multi-CPU Xeon server. Yes, it has a steep learning curve but it allows me to "have Linux my way" and I couldn't even consider using another distro. The advantage of Gentoo is it is incredibly efficient and stable, and there are shortcuts when having to compile everything on it. If people decide to try it, I tell them "have two of everything" so while one machine is compiling, you can use the other. With that said, I don't have any state of the art hardware ("What's a Ryzen"?) and just have loads of cheap and used hardware because Gentoo can run on anything.

[@JMBalaguer]

Thanks for the video! Just today I was updating my Lubuntu 22.04 LTS and I agree that it is very lightweight and fast. By the way, I installed “Elisa” from the Discover software center and although it didn’t launch the program I could open it from the command line.

[@GeorgeSomething5]

We got DistroLube. 😂

[@HannoImmelman]

Hey DT hope you do a video doing a deeper dive into Lubuntu vs Xubuntu.

[@subhojitmandal2899]

Xubuntu is good in case you don't have any errors but lubuntu has some....and obviously kubuntu is the top one flavour in case of everything stability performance etc etc

[@themroc8231]

Hey DT, Lxqt is the only de that offers to change window manager on the fly from a GUI menu. Maybe you could do a video playing with that to see which tiling wms work well within lxqt and which don't.

[@tenfourproductionsllc]

Debian actually uses XFWM4 windows manager by default and not OpenBox on it's LXQT installation.

[@angelosdkg]

hey dt do u like ubuntu ?

[@davidjones6817]

Dt may i request you have a look at Lilidog OS its a openbox distro based on Debian would love to hear your thoughts on it Thanks

[@Yuta_18.]

It would be intresting.

[@vikingnoise]

There's also BunsenLabs, which is based on Debian with Openbox as its WM. I have that on my main Linux laptop, and I love it 😊

[@drishalballaney]

there is also debiandog, you can even create a custom tiny sid based image under 1gb

[@thehardstylepromoter5687]

Your keyboard sounds amazing! What keyboard and what switches do you use?

[@DistroTube]

The ZSA Moonlander with Kaihl Copper switches. I use the ZSA ErgoDox with the same switches on my home computer. I don't "need" another keyboard but I really want the Voyager from ZSA. Maybe soon...

[@thehardstylepromoter5687]

@@DistroTube thanks!

[@manfrommars3486]

I have quite a concern about shipping a distro with an almost abandoned WM (last release, 3.6.1, seems to be about 9yo). Could Wayland make it unusable? What do you think? Other than that, I like Lubuntu very much, especially since it moved to LXQt some time ago, and lightweight WMs in general.

[@SeymourButts-yg3gy]

Waybox is basically a Wayland replacement for Openbox, so LXQt might use that. Though I am not sure if the other programs still depend on X11 (XWayland is a solution, but not ideal since it's not native).

[@ArchLars]

I aint an Ubuntu fan, including the flavors or w/e, but Lubuntu is my fav one if I had to choose

[@spfy]

the music player looked like it was saying your system doesn't support avx512 instructions, if i had to guess. not all cpus support those, but maybe in your case your VM doesn't support them?

[@marsdrums6298]

Darn, 1 more installed program would have made it 2112! As a Rush fan, that would have been AWESOME! :)

[@Zeva-p9z]

I'm very new to Linux, and have installed Lubuntu LXQt 1.4.0 and QT 5.15.13. How can I upgrade to Version 2.0 and QT6?

[@高安迪-o1y]

Where can i find the wallpaper

[@The-Long-Haul-Trader]

I need it too

[@_Lumiere_]

Not to be confused with Wubuntu or uWubuntu

[@itsfkf6106]

UwU

[@HksjJkdkd]

UwU

[@zerron2156]

UwU

[@S.M_GAMER_GG]

UwU

[@Mik3l24]

uwu

[@anieziisandezzlas]

Ubuntu already comes with Vi and Top installed. Also, most Ubuntu users do not use Vi/Vim or Top/Htop

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

You only have access to the contents of your own mind, not everyone else's. If you do not use vim or htop then so be it, but when people turn discussions into "me and my big group of pretend Internet friends all believe..." that's when the discussion drops down to a school playground level.

[@ShaunakHub]

I think the only installer DT really hates is the Fedora installer 😀

[@donpeer4477]

Hey, DT. You're always using commands to get info such as Window Manager, package count, kernel, shell, etc. Why don't you just use Neofetch and get all that and more from a single command? I use is as the last line in my ./bashbashrc so that it runs every time I open a terminal screen.

[@toby9999]

Why not use a mouse? It's 2024. Not 1984.

[@aurkom]

@@toby9999 Speed.

[@omerefe8955]

Hey dt, could you please do a review on this weird linux os I found named Megaos?

[@Bob-b4j1b]

Mfw i realize Qt sounds like cute

[@ElTelBaby]

@ 13:13 My ? is... Y does Ubuntu;... Lubuntu Force U with Libre Office & NOT give U on install a choice of Open Office instead of Libre...

[@mkchinniah]

LIBRE OFFICE IS BETTER ❤🎉

[@champfrompostal]

i don't know much about openoffice but i'm guessing one reason is libreoffice's "Tabbed Ribbon" interface mode that makes it look like MS Office, which new linux users switching from windows might find familiar and thus easier to use.

[@ElTelBaby]

@@champfrompostal ... We just need the choice... I came from Windows;... never looked back... So I brought OpenOffice along with me... That's after I got RID of Libre...

[@champfrompostal]

@@ElTelBaby honestly, that's a fair point. zorin os lets you choose to install either libreoffice or onlyoffice during the installation process, so ubuntu could do something similar as well, except with openoffice as a third option.

[@CrustyAbsconder]

I have several questions about LXQt in its latest version. Is it finally 100% better than LXDE ? Is there any use case where you would choose LXDE over LXQt? Can one take a version of the latest KDE Plasma and remove some apps and install some lighter apps and end up with something better than LXQt ? I can't imagine anyone adopting a DE with a name like LXQt. Since Plasma works with Wayland, why would anyone want to use LXQt ? LXQt seems so 2022.

[@Fistbite]

I do scan my documents.

[@nonamenoname-y9l]

Bodhi and Alpine are also good alternatives. I think they are lighter. Bodhi uses the jammy jelly kernel tomatoes to potatoes not sure about alpines.

[@mkchinniah]

@@nonamenoname-y9l I TRIED BODHI LINUX AND IT FAILED TO DETECT MY OFFICE PRINTER. SO I HATE BODHI LINUX

[@Jmvars]

2111 packages seems like an awful lot for a lightweight distro. I have 1328 after months of use on EndeavourOS. Yes, I do realise Endeavour is Arch(btw) based.

[@penguin2137]

hear me out, when I was on MX (myself debloated as it's rather huge by default), I was using around 1960 packages, while the same setup on EOS was about 970 packages

[@profetik777]

I just got the 24.04 installed.

[@cybernit3]

For regular Ubuntu 24.04 Gnome 47 DE? Well you can change a option in the update manager "for any new versions , not LTS" and you can upgrade easily to 24.10, I did this 2 weeks ago and everything run as normal, except a few Gnome extensions are broke,but I guess they will update soon.

[@anieziisandezzlas]

Have you ever played Minetest?

[@anonytuser711]

Lubuntu isn't lightweight. I prefer Openbox distros like Mabox, Crunchbang ++, and Bunsenlabs. Spiral Linux Builder uses IceWM, which is still being updated after all these years. Puppy Linux uses JWM and FVWM.

[@SeymourButts-yg3gy]

Funnily enough, LXQt actually uses Openbox as a default window manager (of course with additional utilities that make it a complete desktop environment).

[@anonytuser711]

@@SeymourButts-yg3gy I used LXDE for years. LXQT is much more bloated for resources.

[@thermionictetrode]

Open box isn't light weight. I use only Alpine Linux with no extra packages, and certainly no graphical apps, installed.

[@anonytuser711]

@@thermionictetrode Then you're not using it right.

[@SeymourButts-yg3gy]

@@anonytuser711 My guy thinks anything X11 and Wayland are bloat and just uses the console.

[@emem666]

LXDE >> LXQT for RAM and CPU friendly desktop. Anyway XFCE is my preferred choice.

[@tenfourproductionsllc]

And really simple to put lxde on lubuntu, a simple sudo apt-get install lxde on the terminal, log out, log into LXDE session at log in and good to go.

[@rendarecorrentecomopcoes2336]

A self proclaimed lightweight distro using snaps is juat wrong.

[@ToppFunk]

Hellll yeah dude

[@guilherme5094]

👍!

[@johnmichalek9802]

Used Lubuntu for many years in the past as it was my favorite DM. I had to switch as this flavor is a mashup of two different worlds. You have to change your them in two different places if you can find a qt and gtk theme that match. If not, you’re stuck with a glommed together desktop.

[@salvino6699]

👍

[@memason992]

Just watch your video about windows display manager complexity of linux os in coming years.

[@TheLongBen]

Mint xfce works faster than Lubuntu on my old hardware

[@patogonzalez9057]

I found MX Linux a more reliable and faster option than Lubuntu.

[@generalmalaise2930]

L ubuntu

[@toby9999]

Every distro seems flawed. Why not consolidate and improve vs having more and more inconsistent and flawed distros?

[@ВиталийПрограммист]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😌😌😌👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@JoeSmith-pu9hi]

Was good till they dropped 32bit

[@denisdrozdoff2926]

As much as I like tinkering with old hardware, they never positioned themselves as distro for retro stuff. I think they even dropped the claim of being super lightweight when moved to LXQt. And it's hard to find a usable setup this days that isn't 64bit.

[@tiagu8085]

Almost every linux distribution comes with Vim..... how could you think Lubuntu is the only ubuntu flavour with Vim. Complete surface level knowledge for feel good content. No depth

[@hadeseye2297]

The stupid codenames are all over the place. When I see all those names they put it's like reading: Moronic Mindset, Idiotic Imbecile, Stupid Sucker. I would be OK if it was only for Fartbuntu, but no. Now it's somehow trendy and all distros needs to have them. Haven't used vanilla for years, since they invented the CrapUnity, then they became Shmucknome 3 cultists. Then there was Fakmazon, now there's snaps. Uuugh. Ubuntu was OK in 2006 - 2008. The rest is downhill ride with a load of trashware.

[@NemoOhd20]

I used to love Lubuntu. But Snaps. No thanks.

[@mkchinniah]

I love LUBUNTU 24.10 ❤❤❤

[@leopard3131]

So old school. You should look at more modern options. Fedora has spins and options include sway, i3, budgie, lxde, and lxqt . Sway is at least one Wayland and lightweight.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

Define "modern" when it comes to software that one uses because it fits in with a particular workflow. Are you saying that vim, sed, awk and emacs should be scrapped just because they are old?

[@leopard3131]

@terrydaktyllus1320 As we are talking about Lubuntu... 1. The packages in Lubuntu are in general outdated and *buntu is years behind in adopting modern standards such as Wayland, pipewire, systemd, etc. As a short list, Fedora, gentoo, Arch have newer versions of packages which are updated more frequently than Ubuntu. 2. Openbox is certainly outdated. It was released 9 years ago and is not maintained upstream. It runs on X11 which is all but dead. Modern options include sway, hyprland, Qtile, Swayfx, dwl, to name as a short list. 3. Wayland is the modern display server. X11 is officially depreciated. If you bother to do a Google search X11 is listed as depreciated at best and obsolete by some. Distros are dropping support for x11 moving forward as they do not have the man power to support x11.

[@lucolesco]

How is this old school? Lxde? Modern?

[@leopard3131]

​@@terrydaktyllus1320As we are talking about Lubuntu... 1. The packages in Lubuntu are in general outdated and *buntu is years behind in adopting modern standards such as Wayland, pipewire, systemd, etc. As a short list, Fedora, gentoo, Arch have newer versions of packages which are updated more frequently than Ubuntu. 2. Openbox is certainly outdated. It was released 9 years ago and is not maintained upstream. It runs on X11 which is all but dead. Modern options include sway, hyprland, Qtile, Swayfx, dwl, to name as a short list. 3. Wayland is the modern display server. X11 is officially depreciated. If you bother to do a Google search X11 is listed as depreciated at best and obsolete by some. Distros are dropping support for x11 moving forward as they do not have the man power to support x11.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@leopard3131 "1. The packages in Lubuntu are in general outdated and *buntu is years behind in adopting modern standards such as Wayland, pipewire, systemd, etc." I'm not obsessed with "latest and greatest" all of the time - if an application works fine for me then I am in no hurry to update it, only if there's a security issue, bug fix that affects me or a new feature I desperately want. Too many people are too obsessed with numbers, usually gamers with they wayland obsession. "2. Openbox is certainly outdated. It was released 9 years ago and is not maintained upstream. It runs on X11 which is all but dead. Modern options include sway, hyprland, Qtile, Swayfx, dwl, to name as a short list." No, X11 is not dead, it is not being developed but is maintained. The latest stable version is 21.1.13 from April 2024. I should not have to do "homework" on your behalf, you can research this yourself. I don't use Openbox, I use XFCE and i3. "3. Wayland is the modern display server. X11 is officially depreciated. If you bother to do a Google search X11 is listed as depreciated at best and obsolete by some. Distros are dropping support for x11 moving forward as they do not have the man power to support x11." Again, you're just repeating the same old rubbish, and I don't have to do the "homework" you set me just to make you look right. There is no end-of-life date for Xorg as of yet and that is what business will use for their own internal migration plans if and when they happen. You stick to you wayland and AAA games, sonny, leave the proper thinking to the experts. Discussion closed, run along.

[@fruitloop831]

yer thanks for doing this for me, I think a no from me

[@great__success]

"lightweight" distro ??? What a joke...from ca. 2018 when they done multiple changes and moved to LXQt it is no longer lightweight....for that you need Antix. Even Manjaro minimal XFCE is more lightweight than lubuntu

[@matyasmarkkovacs8336]

LXQT is one of the most lightweight DEs. What are you talking about?

[@mkchinniah]

@@great__success NO LUBUNTU 24.10 NEW VERSION IS BEST LIGHTWEIGHT THAN MANJARO. CHECK IT ⛔⛔⛔♥️♥️♥️

[@toby9999]

Unless you're stuck on 10 year old hardware, who cares? That said, I would describe every Linux distro as light weight. It's a relatively basic cut-down OS.

[@matyasmarkkovacs8336]

@@toby9999 Some people prefer simplicity and mininalism instead of a fully featured bloated DE. GNOME and KDE are generally not lightweight, but LXQT, XFCE, Openbox is.

[@mrdenpes1309]

What a redundant, and disappointing, version of a GNU/linux desktop. Browsing wallpapers apparently can not update all image files while browsing, so a bit difficult to select a wallpaper based on the preview icon, if the preview icon is not working.. First package one tries to install, seems to fail installing dependencies. Old looking interface, which does not even have a low memory footprint .( 600+ mb). Still using X11, if Wayland could ever be a reason to use this version. Uses snap ( if , in some countries, you use a government website for your tax return, you can't use the snap version of firefox, due to problems with authenticating with digital ID). Just keep using Debian.