Installation And First Look Of CachyOS

[@xperience-evolution]

Fun Fact: I just installed CachyOS yesterday on my Laptop as my first ever Arch based Distro. It is blazing fast and in my opinion (especially newer Distros) should use x86-64-v3

[@AlbertoMontesSoto]

daily driver for me since it's first builds a few years ago when it was a 2 person team. indeed, it's fast fast.

[@xperience-evolution]

@@AlbertoMontesSoto nice! And your Cat profile pic seems to proof that. Something is going on with Cats around this Distro. What is it?

[@antjoes]

Ive been using it for gaming. Its been awesome

[@victorbayas6296]

@@xperience-evolution furries

[@proctoscopefilms]

@@antjoes how much more performance are you getting from CachyOS compared to something like Nobara or standard Arch ?

[@thelinuxtube]

DT, I've reviewed this OS twice, and I find it very nicely done. It's pretty fast and clean running.

[@majoraxehole]

Their installer would also ask if you want to use grub or systemd-boot but since you're in a legacy VM it didn't =( I think it would be smart to start reviewing these distros while having VM in UEFI mode as that's the newest standard and default these days

[@Browneye2566]

Which one should I choose in this situation - grub or systemd?

[@marioschroers7318]

For systemd-based distributions, systemdboot is actually an excellent choice. I had set up Arch Linux with systemdboot on my PC and laptop. It's a bit easier to configure than GRUB (given you read from the wiki). Then last year, there was an update on Arch which would cause GRUB to break for most people. It was nice to see my machines were not affected by this, as I was using systemdboot.

[@proctoscopefilms]

@@marioschroers7318 faster boot times too !

[@TheDrunkenAlcoholic]

@@Browneye2566 I suggest you use systemd-boot for a non duel booting system(faster than grub), but if you want to duel boot, you might be better with Grub

[@Browneye2566]

@@TheDrunkenAlcoholic thanks for that. Not dual booting & have gone with systemd. After reading up on it all it seems to be the way to go.

[@seylaw]

CachyOS is by far the best gaming Linux by default which I tested so far. They really do an amazing job to integrate newer Kernel patches that aren't upstream yet but are known to be beneficial for performance or stability. And having x86-64-v3 and v4 repos can extract more performance of your CPU. It is really a shame that more established distros with more ressources do not offer that by default nowadays.

[@DenzNoble]

Bore kernel?

[@seylaw]

@@DenzNoble Yes, I use the BORE Scheduler.

[@user-tc9tb3a]

So let's create a strong and complicated password. And then repeat the strong and complicated password

[@softwarelivre2389]

For the *dt* user

[@koduflower2000]

For the *root user* too!

[@tacofortgens3471]

Yes, he puts some classified docs in his virtuele machine. 👽💀

[@ernestoditerribile]

@@tacofortgens3471dat klinkt erg Nederlands

[@diver2048]

Last couple of years when I log in to my PC I think "now type my strong and complicated password"

[@AricMichaelWarden]

I installed Cachy back in November and I love how fast it is on my HP laptop from 2016 with 12 gig's of RAM.

[@sumirandahal76]

I do have the same RAM specs, I should try it next❤

[@sebastiangonzales46]

update on what distro you're using now?

[@aricmichaelwarden6902]

@@sebastiangonzales46 I'm not sure, but some optimization in the V3 repo doesn't play well with my system after the switch to kde 6 so I've been using Garuda Linux... kde works for that distro but I've been using Gnome just to switch it up a bit

[@linuxrant]

Unfortunately as with many Linux Distros authors of the theme do not understand how human perception works. Icons should never ever be unified colorwise. (monochromatic or same in colorset) If you do not want to create something that both of our brain hemispheres can easily, instinctively distinguish, you may just as well use text. That's probably the reason why they made the main dolphin screen icons so ridiculously big. Yeah, one color looks nice. This is why beginner moviemakers make black and white movies. Because you have to have a skill to use color in a movie and not f&^% things up. Monochromatic is easier to manage to not distract the viewer. A professional UI designer has to know how to manage colors and implement them properly. Blender in version 2.8 made the same mistake, made tab icons monochromatic. Everybody was looking "hours" for the proper icon to tap, fortunately, they corrected their mistake :)

[@walter_lesaulnier]

After trying it out in a VM on my Fedora machine, I installed Cachy on an extra computer. It is incredibly quick and "snappy". I too love their choice of included apps. DJ Ware did a couple of great videos on CPU schedulers which helped me pick the best Cachy kernel for my setup. I've had a few little hiccups but no deal breakers at all.

[@wizard-28]

CachyOS is a performance-centric distro. It can't really be reviewed in a VM.

[@bhargavjitbhuyan9394]

Laptop burning noises:

[@blue-eye-white-dragon]

So it's supposed to run well on low end laptops?

[@excytioum]

​@@blue-eye-white-dragonyep

[@anonymoususerinterface]

I run it on a new laptop and it is beautiful, currently trying to find a way to get rid of systemd lol. Hopefully artix installs the performance benefits of cachy soon

[@alx8439]

I'd wish DT gave it a good performance test and compared it against vanilla Arch. Otherwise the topic of this distro review is not revealed completely

[@xperience-evolution]

At least it feels faster (I can only compare to non Arch Distros and Manjaro and Endeavour) but a side by side comparison would be nice

[@johanb.7869]

@@xperience-evolution Isn't that just the placebo effect?

[@xperience-evolution]

@@johanb.7869 I don't think so. I was not reading the page and it just felt a tick faster and more responsive than what I know. Like clear Linux a few years ago (and even nowadays). Test it on a ubs stick

[@dllsmartphone3214]

the only kernels for me are the cachyos kernels. i also recently completely replaced all my fedora instances with cachyos. its just perfect.

[@SpyderGamer]

Looks like a pretty neat distro, I like it. Great video!

[@duffelo]

Not only the kernels are optimized, also every other package is at least v3 optimized (if you at least run a haswell CPU)

[@DenzNoble]

Do you know what kernel is better for gaming?

[@duffelo]

@@DenzNoble i use linux-cachyos-lto, build myself with a few tweaks. It's pretty easy. Than I use cachyos-gaming meta package, that gives me steam-native with proton-cachy. I get stable, high FPS and really zero lags, by far the best linux gaming experience possible with amdgpu and mesa drivers (RX570), all (mostly) out of the box. CachyOS is really underrated - not just for gaming!

[@ancientbrat9782]

​@@DenzNoble late reply but Zen would be your best best, Xenmod is good too

[@temudjin1155]

Very interesting distro. Thank you for the first look. Never heard of it. Looks beautiful and very well developped. Speed has always been a plus

[@paarthjuneja3707]

Hey DT, I've noticed that your distro review videos get significantly more views than the others. I think that's because many people use Linux just because they get a dopamine hit from trying different distributions and ricing them. What are your views on this?

[@seanld444]

I don't really understand it. There aren't really any differences between distros. It's just a bunch of defaults. You can do everything from one distro, on another.

[@paarthjuneja3707]

@@seanld444 Exactly. Maybe people are just lazy to learn ricing and be creative so they just switch distributions?

[@JoseMabok]

Dopamine hopper is gonna be my new moniker. ADHD is a mofo

[@linuxrant]

Wow, I'm a Micro fan, glad to see that by default installed on a linux, I hope a new user can know about it to be able to use it instead of something like nano...

[@leothehuman_9476]

is micro better than nano for newcomers who don't have time to learn anything?

[@linuxrant]

@@leothehuman_9476 It is more than better. It is the best tui text editor for non-vim users. It should replace nano as the default. There is no question about it. Just some distros need a little catching up to do.

[@johanb.7869]

Wallpaper is the default for Plasma 5.27, not CachyOS😉

[@biplopgiri8168]

The "Strong and complicated Password" never gets old.

[@shauryakalia3296]

you should really start using wayland with distros that default to it. It is pretty mature now, even with virtio driver

[@proctoscopefilms]

Gaming on Wayland is clearly superior for someone like me, who still games on a 60hz display. Their "perfect every frame" philosophy is fantastic. I'll trade high fps numbers for a super stable, smooth 60fps any day of the week.

[@GambiaTech]

i like cachyos, definitely one of the top arch distros

[@walter_lesaulnier]

I like Cachy a lot more than Xero- Cachy's under the hood tweaks are excellent and more reliable and better maximize performance. Cachy's Wayland implementation is EXCELLENT. Xero is still shipping with the (deprecated?) Latte dock.

[@injuneer7942]

I'm missing something. I downloaded it, build an installer using rufus and etcher and neither would make an installable file. Am I missing something? I didn't see a comment in the video addressing this, could you??? Many thanks!

[@merthyr1831]

not that im against it but why go to the work of maintaining 4 different kernel spins with different schedulers - is there a real difference between them?

[@SoulExpension]

It flies like a flaming monkey out of hell. v3, v4 repos in the box. I hope this project stays alive. It really puts an end to the kernel and scheduler tweaking. If you are an Arch-KDE user, instant daily driver.

[@patpopov]

UKUI is the Kylin desktop. I wouldn't bother.

[@recon0x7f16]

how do you install black arch on any arch distro i been struggling to figure how to do this

[@dragonballjiujitsu]

4 text editors?

[@gentuxable]

I guess those chevrons in the list open so you could choose a kernel.

[@PuggiTheGreat]

I installed CachyIOS on my Lenovo IdeaPad Gaming 3, Ryzen 6, GeForce RTX 3060. Working OK so far. Am about to test Nvidia driver and install Steam Proton for gaming, I will update later.

[@giuseppetomassi5546]

any update on this?

[@WJV9]

Why do I never see anyone setup a printer, particularly a wifi printer on a home network. That seems to be difficult on Garuda, Endeavour, etc.

[@FengLengshun]

Huh, this feels like a successor to Garuda Linux, mixing a lot of things from Garuda, Endeavor, and Manjaro together to a pretty convenient end result. I wonder what's been going on with Garuda -- I was thinking of using it again but they haven't had a new ISO since October 2022 judging by the links, but they looked like to have a pretty big community and decent amount of devs (at least compared to my other favorite KDE distro FerenOS lol).

[@d1ssolv3r]

I've been using Garuda for the default btrfs backup and zen kernel, but just finding out about CachyOS. Garuda is good but this seems good too, definitely a step in the right direction

[@TheKingsIdiot]

This has been bugging me for a while. Why only 2 threads to vm?

[@evropej]

I just installed this os and it would not update at all. Neither with the terminal nor with discover.

[@AndersJackson]

All shells that the user can change to is in shells(5) (man 5 shells, you see that the file is /etc/shells). So all those can user change between which chsh(8) command (man 8 chsh).

[@pev4a22j2]

instead of actually instally cachyos, I just installed the cachyos repo on my arch based system, there are no noticable changes probably because my desktop is pretty high end, but one thing I do notice is that there are far fewer updates so that probably means the os is more stable

[@guilherme5094]

Nice.

[@DxBlack]

14:17, no, those open when they update...so whatever default installation they have is outdated.

[@redname]

Xfce under construction. Waiting for that.

[@gandolfthegray3334]

Hey DT, sorry if this question asked before, How should someone ask a question, through Comments, Patreon or emails? best regards :)

[@IanHaver]

hey DT, is it pronounced cachy as in "cache ee" or cachy as in "catchy" When i first come across it i thought it was cachy as in "catchy". Nice video again.

[@steven631764]

I'm not DT but it must be like the first way - like "cash ee"

[@DenzNoble]

Hello guys, what kernel do you think is better for gaming?

[@DefCantGame]

going back and forth between vanilla arch, this and fedora for my python dev machine and cant stick to one

[@syedumairali4345]

Would love if you could review crystal Linux.

[@folksurvival]

He said he doesn't do distro reviews.

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

​@@folksurvivalwhat is this video then?

[@folksurvival]

@@rizkyadiyanto7922 An installation and first look (clue is in the video title) which he said he will do.

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

@@folksurvival then its called review.

[@folksurvival]

@@rizkyadiyanto7922 False.

[@witseid]

I like cachy repos

[@JsjdjJhdjd]

you should have seen the other desktop enviroments in the installer, they are not the same as the default personally as i am typing, i am installing the openbox version on a vm

[@NADEEMKHAN-sj5hn]

Hey DT, You should make a video on Cachy OS install with it's cli installer in a easy way just like archinstall script i like this method because the iso file size of archlinux and cachy os cli is less than 1 gb because of no use of desktop environment and i also like debian and fedora netinst iso

[@MI7DJT]

The light blue text on dark blue background is awful. If it's as difficult to change as the Manjaro default theme I'd give it a miss personally. Might just have to check it out and see.

[@GWFO]

cachy vs Mabox ?

[@MerkDolf]

If they would only have COOM EMACS out of the box.

[@somegeezer4058]

For those that are curious: phoronix found this distro to be about 7% faster than most of the major distros

[@84e-NDtj_y]

The conclusion was that it performed close to Fedora and other distros, while Clear Linux was the one that held a 7% speed increase compared to the rest.

[@somegeezer4058]

​@@84e-NDtj_y Somehow I misread the conclusion. Your summary is the correct one.

[@AdrianoWotan]

DT, make a video about GNU Guix. I think that this distro uses the kernel Hurd. It's a distro declarative like NixOS.

[@panda_7]

possible to install in mac m1??

[@Gherry77]

No

[@Amos_Huclkeberry]

CachyOS, howbowdat?

[@celestialbeing4767]

DT everything is high on security now a days. Passwords these days aren't very strong.

[@doctorsocrates4413]

One of many hundreds of distros to choose from..windows users don't have this issue lol.

[@Parallax9999]

not an issue, more like a good way to like your desktop, since you use what you like, not what you were forced to use.

[@UToobSteak]

It's a feature, not an issue

[@harshitarora693]

we aren't racist , we have variety .

[@sunnyheheheh9401]

But it's wayyyyyyyyyyyy better than using crappy windows

[@tylerdean980]

With windows you have the illusion of choice, a dozen versions of the same OS the only difference is what they prevent you from using on the cheaper options

[@neotwenty-nineBzH]

Blazing fast yes... For sure. That was when I deleted it from the drive 😉😊it was fast

[@xperience-evolution]

What was the Problem?

[@neotwenty-nineBzH]

@@xperience-evolution buggy, useless, too far from what I need. Pointless, no softwares.

[@AnErrupTion]

@@neotwenty-nineBzH you know it's just arch right so you can install the same software that's on arch on cachyos

[@neotwenty-nineBzH]

@@AnErrupTion 🤣🤣🤣give me lessons yes. I've been using arch for more than 10 years. So... I always prefer the original to the copy.

[@AnErrupTion]

@@neotwenty-nineBzH ok sure but then your argument that it has no software is completely invalid

[@naranyala_dev]

distro benchmark, distro benchmark, distro benchmark

[@Amos_Huclkeberry]

21:26 VIP!

[@cillipodWF]

I love the passive aggressiveness of DT reviewing YAMFABD (yet another forked Manjaro Arch based distro).

[@THeck_23]

[@kailisse3267]

Installed the Openbox edition in a VM. Wow! What a waste of time! Not for adults. Don’t know about any other INSTALLED editions though. The KDE live iso is a mess too, IMO. At least in a VM using the GUI installer. Might try the CLI installer sometime.

[@Skelterbane69]

Suggesting a zenwalk video, again. Very lightweight slackware distro, running XFCE as the default DE.

[@Doruletz1999]

I simply hate any Distro that does things the Apple way... Window buttons are ALWAYS suppose to be on the right, not the left. ALWAYS. I guess you can probably go into settings and change that. Other than that, everything looks really nice, and is more or less "Bare-bones", which I like a lot.

[@PredatorPortugal]

i agree with you about the right side, you can just change this, i changed mines

[@everyhandletaken]

You can change it, if you like inefficiency.

[@eijentwun5509]

The Apple way is the right way..except for those window close buttons. You are just used to to worst OS in existence way of doing things (Windows) and no I am not a Mac User...But Apple practicly perfected the GUI and OS since 2008 especiially (before this Amiga OS was the best OS in the world...the only Proper OS actually)

[@diezgp]

@@eijentwun5509 They are really perfecting GUI with those notches and huge launchers. So smart and efficient use of space.

[@eijentwun5509]

@@diezgp Wanna bet? why do you think WIndows has NOT succeeded in the phone Market or Tablet Market? with tier Billions in R&D and STILL they can't....wanna know why? its so freakin simple....Windows with its tiny X close button and minimize and GUI like this al throughout JUST does NOT Work for Touch screen. Apple however WInk Wink. Tablets have excellent use of space...yeah Big Icons...they work...easy on the eyes...easy to see, and most important easy to ttouch, swipe and not be squinting th whole time. Steve Jobs knew what it takes...and I agree even though I despise Apple as a Company currently. AND thats why Google copied iOS with Android and Copied OSX on their laptops with their newer OS. Because it works.....oh and guess what...Windows is finally following with Windows 11...they are only STARTING to get it....they are not there yet....You're welcome

[@YrmiZ]

Yet another fancy Arch skin.

[@louistournas120]

It would be nice if there was a GUI to install the AMD video driver open source or closed source, whichever version we want.

[@Doruletz1999]

Hey, DT. I do the same as you do, always use a two letter password in all my VMs, except mine's usually "vb", since it's the acronym for VirtualBox, and also cause they're right next to each other on a QWERTY keyboard. Gentoo does the same thing, they play Big Brother and try to give a crap about the length and strength of your password, pretending to care... 🤣😂🤣 In a CLI install, you can tinker with some settings, and have any password accepted. At least Fedora and a few others let's you click OK twice, or something. And eventually they let any password slide through the cracks, so to speak.

[@oglothenerd]

What happened to the side of your head? You have a red bump!

[@tf2368]

Acne

[@bittokazi249]

Very bad color scheme 😵‍💫

[@sharoyveduchi]

Why do they call it "CachyOS" instead of "Cachy Linux"? It's false advertising. I clicked on this vid thinking it was built much more from the ground up. But not only is it just another Linux distro, it's based off Arch, so most of the work was already done for them. These creators have no shame.

[@PredatorPortugal]

no shame? its in their website, telegram and others serves that cachyos is based in arch. They optimize many things, kernel, browser, etc they even got support to last amd gpu before arch!

[@Being_Joe]

First 10?

[@0woled]

third

[@bigkahunauk1]

fourth

[@Gintelligence]

Cachy os = Slowest download ever

[@leviticus8930]

Nineteenth

[@emilstaack8]

first lol

[@mugichi8597]

too many errors in install process. clear arch or endevour all ok

[@garth56]

It's no faster than Arch..Remove sysd then you know fast

[@lynic-0091]

Oh god that theme is AWFUL

[@aromalito63]

look like garuda

[@pw1187]

Meh, it's just 1 of many arch distro with custom themes I mean ok...

[@PredatorPortugal]

its not only custom themes, has custom kernel, custom firefox and other optimizations.

[@pw1187]

@@PredatorPortugal when someone points out the obvious on a distro, they take it like a personal attack.

[@PredatorPortugal]

@@pw1187 its not obvious that its only custom theme :)

[@pw1187]

@@PredatorPortugal if you say so, it's literally. Just a theme of arch that has a custom kernel.....but you do you

[@psour33]

slowest distribution I ever tested, this one didn't like my hardware.

[@quarteratom]

Change for the sake of change is bad. Hipster OSes and DEs, that diverge from Windows XP conventions, are bad.

[@dougtilaran3496]

OMG ! Another arch ! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.