INSTALLING A BLACK PATH RACING THROTTLE BODY SPACER ON MY 2004 MERCURY GRAND MARQUIS

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[@chriswasson8414]

Hyundai builds awful cars. I had one and it broke down 2 months after paying it off. Sucky cars!!!!

[@OldeCarrGuy]

That's your pinion and you're entitled to it.

[@chriswasson8414]

@@OldeCarrGuy actually, no it's not, an opinion is something that's not factual. It's a fact that Hyundai sucks.

[@jimr5703]

Yours is an isolated experience - THAT is a FACT. If you've had 16 Hyundai cars and a majority of them were crappy, you might have a valid claim. I was nervous when I bought my first one, but it's worked out fine. I've had 4 of them for myself and my family and I've been quite happy with every one. Currently I'm driving a 2018 Sonata with 75,000 miles and it has been flawless. I've even done some light towing with the two Sonatas I've owned. No problems at all.

[@jimr5703]

@@chriswasson8414 Just out of curiosity: 1. What was the breakdown? 2. What do you consider a good car?

[@OldeCarrGuy]

@@chriswasson8414 Everyone make a dud once in a while. Even Toyota.

[@neilouellette3004]

Besides a slight increase in hp, the spacer improves vacuum line response which increases the performance overall.

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Exactly. Better throttle response i think is how i worded it. Thanks for the clarification!

[@illegalkegels]

Nothing like increasing HP by extending the time it takes for air to get in engine ❤

[@OldeCarrGuy]

100%

[@jamese.5047]

Thanks brother for the video and the info on adjusting that bracket. I'm about to install one of these on my 01 Grand Marquis 👍

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Glad I could help

[@Str8sixfan]

I regret I didn't think of mentioning it before you got to this point...but you could have also "knife edged" the throttle body disc when you were cleaning it. Basically leave the back side the same dimension, but you taper the front side down so that it allows air to slide past it faster/sooner when it's opening. Sorry Jr. had to go through that, but I appreciate your attitude about it. Usually my stomach feels like it's trying to wedge itself under my lungs in those situations.

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Who really knows who’s fault it is that the motor went but either way no sense crying over it! Besides, just think of the content!

[@Pantherforlife]

Thanks for showing this. I'm going to try it on my 2008 Lincoln town car

[@yeanah2571]

Might have to notch the engine cover. *Laughs in throttle by wire* It's weird that they have specific ones for Crown Vics, but we have to order them for F150s for it to work

[@ssgsschiraq8858]

So my cel came on after my install but the throttle body is VERY noticeable idk why people say their trash all they do is add torque

[@OldeCarrGuy]

I agree. Quite responsive!

[@silverstar12100]

Also in your application how did the recirculating hose on the rear of the engine still reach the port in the air intake piping ? Do I just need a new rubber elbow with an inch longer on one end?

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Again, due to it being so long ago, I don't specifically remember having an issue!

[@silverstar12100]

I ended up just getting a bigger L pipe and cutting it to fit so problem solved, never ended up using th e third bracket but man I was actually impressed with the new throttle responce, I have a k&n filter with the stock box and piping and am definitely happy with the results. Thanks for the video!

[@silverstar12100]

Installing the same one on my 03 grand marquis and what the heck did they send me 3 brackets for???? I’m worrying myself that I must have missed something but my setup is same as yours and in the video I only see you using two of them

[@OldeCarrGuy]

It's been so long now since I did this, but I'm sure I just used what I needed to make it work.

[@miken8001]

Good news no more misfire !!!!!

[@mod3rnwarrior34]

I have heard speculations that removing the combs on the gasket helps increase performance, have you heard or thought of if this would work? Thanks.

[@OldeCarrGuy]

I haven’t heard that before! But anything is positive guess!

[@robertbenson8353]

Did this on my 06 cvpi and seen a noticeable difference in throttle response. Data log shows a slight increase in airflow. Combined with my full cat delete that was making the car run a little rich I think a throttle body spacer will help even more to get my afr where it needs to be. Idk how much of a power gain it will make if any at all but I'm sure it will be minimal.

[@dbr2355]

Hyundai recalled many engines for serious mechanical issues .

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Yes they did! We have been successful on a few occasions.

[@shanescarlife]

Good grief, a throttle cable! It's been 4 or 5 cars since I've had one of those! I hope you guys didn't get any damage from that storm!

[@OldeCarrGuy]

No damage other than lost power.

[@rxmarlo2303]

hey what did you mean by slotting the holes u drilled them and made them bigger? or u just loosened them and scooted them to the right to it would reach?

[@OldeCarrGuy]

A little bit of both actually. I took a die grinder and reamed the holes to an oval shape so the bracket would slide a bit more to get the adjustment i needed. I hope this makes sense!

[@lyhaikudai3]

Mercury Grandma Kiss

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Yessir! Not the first time to hear that!

[@maxdustercindertyson]

Hello Jason did the spacer make any difference?asking because i have a 04 Grand Marquis

[@OldeCarrGuy]

It seem to enhance throttle response! But I also have true dual exhaust and a high flow air filter which all aids in that.

[@The07gt]

Question. Seeing that I’m trying to do better performance on my 08 grand marquis. I’ve seen and read that a cold air intake is not worth it for these cars unless a tune is done. I was wondering if I get a air intake from a cop car that I believe is similar to the marauder one. Would that be the best to do instead of spending $300 on a cold air intake?

[@OldeCarrGuy]

If you didn’t see my video on this, I mentioned that you definitely want a high flow filter! As far as cold air intake, it’s pretty tough to accomplish that on a Panther as it gets its air from ambient temperatures under the hood. Bang for buck, add a high flow filter rather than spending big bucks trying to get something you can’t! kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5ebnZaXisaSldE

[@The07gt]

Olde Carr Auto Guy ok, thank you.

[@peterkang7640]

Hey Buddy amazing video! After watching yours I decided to install the same one on my 2000 MGM. The only worry I have is that the throttle body return spring is now too tight, since it has been stretched out the distance of a spacer from stock set up. This makes me have to push the gas’s paddle harder to accelerate. Did the same problem applied to you? Or is it something we just have to live with after the mod😂

[@OldeCarrGuy]

It's been 4 years since this video, but I don't recall there being an issue. Maybe see if you can relocate the spring connection to some place more forward to help ease the tension.

[@raymondwalker5673]

I have a 2007 grand marquis gs is there anything I can do to mine that your would suggest?

[@OldeCarrGuy]

There is lots of upgrades you can do. I have a whole playlist dedicated to GrandMa. Maybe there's something there you will like!

[@ariohandoyo5973]

Working everday, muy buena.👍🏻👍🏻 muy buena is spainish language, muy buena that means very good.😁🇨🇦

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Thanks Ario

[@thisguysgarage]

Was a hell of a day driving through new Brunswick on Sunday

[@OldeCarrGuy]

I bet you saw every lightning bolt!

[@thisguysgarage]

@@OldeCarrGuy oh yeah.

[@jluwikhaled1003]

Hello can a spacer be installed on a 2003 Victoria cable throttle?

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Yes! It’s the same as this car.

[@cwrides7164]

Itll be interesting to see if that spacer makes any difference

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Stay tuned!

[@davidporcell7799]

They add hp better throttle response and mpg

[@redpillproductionscanada5563]

Would this match up with the electronic TB on the 2005+ ?

[@OldeCarrGuy]

I believe the mounting is the same but I can’t be 100%. If you look it up by year you’ll be fine.

[@123alez]

Did the spacer make any difference?

[@OldeCarrGuy]

In theory, Yes! Slightly better throttle response. Every little bit you do to enhance your engines performance helps. You may not notice it alone, but it works together with the high flow air filter, the true dual exhaust, the premium fuel, the plugs, and coils. You would probably gain 20-30 hp doing all of those!

[@tjkilshot]

Where can I get that brackets? I have a cable throttle on my 04 and that spacer pulls it out

[@OldeCarrGuy]

I used the factory bracket and use the brackets that came with the spacer.

[@Irongiant99]

Hey, 2003 Lincoln town care here. Do you think this would work with a aftermarket bbk 70mm throttle body? Thank you

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Sorry bud! I couldn’t say for sure!

[@luthermoore2969]

Evertime I see a Hyundai it has tail lights or something out. Just a sign of a really cheap made car. I like my big v8 panther cars. Keep oil and water and it's good to go

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Maintenance is the key to any vehicles survival.

[@darealcfoee2125]

How did your gas pedal feel , after adding the spacer ?

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Throttle response was noticeable!

[@pennybrown4863]

Where exactly do I install the brackets that come with the spacer? I installed the spacer on mine and forgot to use the brackets l, and it instantly redlined lol

[@OldeCarrGuy]

You can do it the way I show in the video, but you can install them anyway that keeps the factory bracket stationary.

[@pennybrown4863]

@@OldeCarrGuy thank you man. I appreciate that

[@jefferyschirm4103]

He was hammering it, just tell him to admit it.

[@OldeCarrGuy]

He does not deny having fun!

[@sterlingjones8303]

Where can I go at to get headlights like that

[@OldeCarrGuy]

You don’t. I spray tinted these in a video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqvOh6Knpp6YftE

[@EfurdGarage]

I always liked using spacers, shame it went boom. Makes you wonder if the misfire was the cause of something mechanically wrong but you would think the knock sensor would have stopped it before

[@OldeCarrGuy]

I’m betting that the misfire was something more terminal!

[@EfurdGarage]

@@OldeCarrGuy it happens from time to time unfortunately sometimes parts just fail

[@fallenangelbv]

Where did you get your head lights?

[@OldeCarrGuy]

They are actually the original lights, I just tinted them! I did a video on it.... HOW TO TINT HEADLIGHTS ON A 2004 MERCURY GRAND MARQUIS kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqvOh6Knpp6YftE

[@thatslow4.6]

Does this work on 2002 Mercury grand Marquis?

[@OldeCarrGuy]

I don't see why it wouldn't. Same intake and throttle body i believe.

[@thatslow4.6]

@@OldeCarrGuy did you have to make threads to bring the throttle cable forward? Do I need to drill any holes?

[@shannonm5599]

Are them headlight covers or plasticoat

[@OldeCarrGuy]

It’s actually a spray on tint! I did a video on it!

[@tadboss2988]

Do it matter what side you got the the spacer

[@OldeCarrGuy]

I don’t think so, but it’s been a while since I installed it!

[@tadboss2988]

Olde Carr Guy ok thanks

[@seabeez634]

Any hp diffenrence with the spacer ?

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Not as a stand alone product. But thats not it's intended purpose anyway. Its meant to improve throttle response. However, if you combined a performance intake, high flow/cold air intake and dual exhaust you might set 10 hp.

[@MrMach1]

Nice engine mod! That will help suck the fuel into the intake!

[@OldeCarrGuy]

lol yup

[@lv-blackhawk]

So how many horsepower you think you got out of doing that to your car.?

[@OldeCarrGuy]

I didn’t do it for the horsepower gains as I doubt there is any, but more for the throttle response!

[@lv-blackhawk]

I see well thank you, I have a Grand Marquis my self. I was thinking about doing that to my car but if I not going to gain any horsepower forget about it.

[@thomasdaum1927]

Not much if any !……. There is no free lunch !………………… If if worked wouldn’t the factory do this. They could mass produce these for pennies !…..

[@thomasdaum1927]

Not much if any !……. There is no free lunch !………………… If if worked wouldn’t the factory do this. They could mass produce these for pennies !…..

[@PanzerPlatform]

7:40 "Precious Bodily Fluids"

[@OldeCarrGuy]

I know! Icky!!!

[@renelepage2078]

Thought those cars were umbreakable

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Apparently it is not! lol

[@terryhodges5850]

He blew that red car up at 2500 RPMs, my butt 😂

[@OldeCarrGuy]

lol

[@GeorgeJFW]

Who is the co-host?????

[@OldeCarrGuy]

I guess you’ll just have tune in George! lol

[@thomasdaum1927]

Have tried these spacers on several different vehicles , have had ( No ) noticeable improvement in. Gas milage or power ! If they worked then why wouldn’t the factory add one or incorporate the design into the intake manifold ??? In my opinion these are mostly ( snake oil ) and the only benefit is to the bank account of the manufacturer !……..

[@OldeCarrGuy]

To a point I would agree with you, but, the bigger picture is a bunch of small mod’s alone do nothing but together the will work to add throttle response, HP and torque. All I need now is the Marty tune and we’re golden.

[@thomasdaum1927]

@@OldeCarrGuy Thanks for responding , the only thing I can see it really dose is increase the length of the plenum by one inch. Drag racers do that to increase velocity on very built engines. Once again if it really made a difference ( Ford , Gm or Chrysler ) would have already done it because they have unlimited equipment for testing way beyond small companies abilities. The spacers won’t hurt any but I think you will get very beneficial results !

[@truckcrazed1]

Are you going to pull some numbers on Grandma to see if there's any difference in performance? Sorry to see Jr. Detonated his Engine. I would say whatever was causing the Misfire no doubt let go and Cleaned House!!

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Yes! I do plan on doing another run in the near future! Junior has got to learn to keep his foot out of it! I think he gets that from his Grandfather!;)

[@truckcrazed1]

@@OldeCarrGuy Ha ha!!

[@truckerdave5122]

And motor go boom lol at least he didn't blow up you mopar

[@OldeCarrGuy]

The bright side of that is fuel injected hemi!!!

[@MaineiacVariety]

uh oh.... Jr needs another car

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Just an engine.... lol

[@v8gerard117]

hello my crown victoria 2005 will fit

[@OldeCarrGuy]

You may want to check Black Path Racing website for firmest as the 2005 was the first year for drive by wire rather than a throttle cable like my 2004. They could be the same, but better check before you buy!

[@jamespn]

Check with WatchJRgo, he just swapped out an engine in his Veloster with an engine from a salvage yard.

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Thanks James! I do follow JR, just haven’t caught up on a lot of youtubers i follow!

[@jamespn]

Looking forward to how the Veloster turns out. I’ll have to see whether you source a reman or a salvage engine and see what caused the engine to fail. I believe WatchJRgo used a salvage engine in his Veloster.

[@GrandmaKeith]

You should've just left the engine cover off.

[@OldeCarrGuy]

You're probably right, but I do like the factory look!

[@jimr5703]

Lasfit bulbs are now the 2nd worst mod you've done to that car... A throttle body spacer? Really? Just go to Home Depot and bold an 11 foot pipe to your manifold - instant 150 HP gain.

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Hey Jim, I thank you for watching my channel and I appreciate the constructive criticism, but now you're just being ignorant. I know I don't have to explain myself to you, but I'll give you the courtesy. I knew this mod alone likely wasn't going to give me instant satisfaction. This, the air filter, the exhaust and rear diff upgrades are all in prep for a Marty tune. Then, they will all work together. You are always welcome to comment on my videos, but if you're only here to troll, pick apart and be nasty, I'd kindly ask you to move along. The world has enough haters. I hope you understand.

[@anwarkhankhan3366]

Asslamalekum sir

[@OldeCarrGuy]

same to you!

[@sharonbones6750]

Ohhh...so the problem is that is a hiunday ....

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Possibly, but more likely driver abuse! haha

[@sharonbones6750]

I do got a ?.....my 03 marquis sometimes the traction light start blinking when im driving on the highway....when i step on the gas....rhe overdrive hit fine....and the car go with no problems...but sonetimes that blinking start on the traction light... Then i gotta wait a few seconds....lights goes off...and car start driving fine again....any idea what can cause the light to start blinking???...again...this is in dry conditions....

[@sharonbones6750]

Also....the button on the left side of the dash by steering wheel....is for the traction....dosnt seen to be working....is there a fuse or something???

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Your ABS brakes are tied to the traction control. Have your car scanned for wheel speed sensor codes! You may have a bad sensor!

[@sharonbones6750]

@@OldeCarrGuy even I dont have a abs light on.....just take it to see if is a bad sensor???....that what had me thinking....abs light should be on....but....I dont have a abs or break lights on....I'm gonna take it....like you said ...might be a bad sensor....thanks....

[@davidporcell7799]

Grandma will last longer then that korean car

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Every day of the week! lol

[@HaventHeardNone]

No doubt.