Installing an SSD in an iMac G5

[@bhstone1]

"Hey smokers, Druaga One here..." I live for those words.

[@Coffeeology]

I was honestly impressed with the mechanical drive boot.

[@TobiasHagen7]

Druaga1, everybody. If it exists, an SSD is going in it.

[@aliabdallah102]

can he put an SSD in an SSD?

[@Delta225]

+Ali Abdallah That's physical hardware in physical hardware. In other words, almost impossible. Plus, it probably wouldn't work, because- you know what? It's a joke. It doesn't matter.

[@Refract404]

+Gleeful Rabbits After all, the SSD in the Linux notebook is for rectal use only.

[@StevenJPiper]

Yeah, but Ali's post was also a joke.... You don't get out much, I get it

[@TheRedCap]

Tobias Hagen an ssd in a CAT!!! YEAH

[@Zoolookuk]

The reason it is booting more slowly is that it hasn't finished indexing. After a fresh install, you need to leave it on for about 30 - 40 mins to fully index. Then it should boot faster.

[@niewazneniewazne1890]

I thought of how ssds boot mbr later than hdds

[@gethan_91]

"Oh my pizza's done!". It's for those small moments that I really love your channel, keep up the good work :) Edit: Why is it square...

[@ProWilson999]

+CookieJoeYT Because it a frozen pizza in a shape that makes some pieces square

[@BenTheTechGuy]

+CookieJoeYT my school used to make square pizzas that literally tasted like cardboard.

[@SilverBlazeBrony]

+Epic_Gamer_2000 The Best Gamer Ever Did they taste like cardboard or motherboard? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@BenTheTechGuy]

+SilverBlaze lol they actually seriously tasted like cardboard.

[@meqolo1714]

+Epic_Gamer_2000 The Best Gamer Ever My school still has them q.q

[@bluefoxtv1566]

The reason for the little gain in boot time is due to the old SATA interface. You will see gains in random reads and writes tho.

[@marc6340]

The reason the SSD and the mechanical HDD had about the same boot time is simply because the internal data bus runs at the same speed. So even though you have two completely different drives, they are basically being bottlenecked by the machine itself. At least, that's what I assume is happening.

[@Mooseguy15]

Mark Woodworth That'snot true. apparently theres an update you have to do that optimizes it. I think it's only in leopard though.

[@brianarmstrong234]

Leopard was the first version of Mac OS X that took into account SSD's and even then it was very basic. It was not until Snow Leopard until Apple started talking them seriously

[@giovanni233]

"Englishes that I don't language" you just gotta love duruga1 logic😂

[@lolimrob]

Ah Druaga1. You're the reason my 3rd monitor is an entirely seperate late 2006 imac. miss you buddy. i wish we were homies

[@segaprophet]

I thought I was the only one nutty enough to put an SSD in a PPC Mac! I have a 60GB OWC Mercury Legacy Pro in my 12" PowerBook and it goes a long way towards making it usable in the modern day.

[@LakoIsFun]

I wish there was more SD CARD videos.

[@SitiSchu]

SD Card?

[@TimurTripp2]

+SitiSchu In older computers with an ATA/66 bus, a high-performance SD card can be used in place of a SSD with no performance hit, using an IDE to SD card adapter. I should try this upgrade in my Power Mac G4 Cube sometime.

[@SitiSchu]

Timur Tripp Thank you for the Information but I was wondering why he wrote something about SD Cards on a Video about an SSD.

[@LakoIsFun]

SitiSchu I meant the install mac os x and windows 2000 on a sd card videos he did

[@SitiSchu]

Ah ok nevermind then ^^

[@xdomg9503]

Please new video for install SSD on IPizza on OS Italian 1.0

[@user-sp7ni]

You need a very large ssd though!

[@RCT3Crashes100]

You need at least 4 Gigasalamis of toppings for that to work though, don’t forget that one

[@Snowyleopard7]

They should've put the light behind the Apple logo. That would've been cool, having the Apple logo on the front of the machine glow on boot.

[@christinaandwena8917]

THE SSD CAME WITH ADHESIVE IT WAS RIGHT THERE YOU DIDN'T NEED TO FIND THE DUCT TAPE

[@victorjh2057]

So glad I stumbled upon this channel, love the videos. Keep up the good work, Druaga.

[@megabojan1993]

Love it when he says: Hey smokers :)

[@TecterOne]

That's the first time I see HDD boot faster than SSD. lol

[@yolsclassics6347]

watch to the end, it eventually beat the HDD. The performance was due to many factors, many age of the computer and software.

[@yolsclassics6347]

+Yol mainly** not many.

[@compactc9]

The newer 21.5in iMacs are the hard to change RAM machines, and now they're soldered on like the MacBooks. But the 27in model still has easy to change RAM, it has a little cover that oops open on the back.

[@akorzan]

@Druaga1, Holly Molly, that RISC processor screams. You should time how long it takes from rm -rf / to complete! That's a true manly test of drive performance.

[@redey1290]

I just realized that he did this on carpet... He broke the golden rule!!

[@radoo4772]

+Redey1290 lol

[@MimicGriphon]

XD OH NO ALL THAT STATIC?!?!?!?!?!!?!??! XD

[@Poire33]

Concerning the 2012 and newer models, I'd definitely say that 21.5" iMacs are herendous to get the RAM out. The 27" don't require any special tools, just something to push the latch to unlock the cover, however that's the only thing that can be easily upgraded on the 27" iMac. For the HDD you need to take off adhesive and put it back on.

[@mario32]

Sherlock needs to file stuff in the background. That's what was slowing it down. This is still a problem with Macs to this day, but once Sherlock, or spotlight finishes indexing those files then the Hard drive runs at its full potential.

[@mariom6759]

Nice video, pizza is a must to do the job right! I'm going to be installing Tiger and Leopard on some mac mini's and was wondering if you can share the keystroke you used to bypass the registration screen (very useful).

[@Druaga1]

+G3 Piedras Command+Q or Command+W I can't remember.

[@dylanvaneaton895]

+Druaga1 'apple quit' Command+Q it is

[@windowsvista1559]

Dylan Van Eaton This is really handy so you don't spend hours on the registration

[@windowsvista1559]

When that prompt comes up yes click skip

[@Stenstorp]

The fans spinning up in the boot menu (and the openfirmware) is normal. Happens on my G5 iMac as well.

[@skinwalker69420]

When I was in Kindergarten we had these in the computer lab and my kindergarten classroom, which was the fully decked out kind with the bathroom and SMART board.

[@MrMailando]

The SSD is not going to improve the Bootup time by much, because the Strength of SSDs which is Random Reads/Writes is not coming into play here. OSX actually aligns the Files needed to Boot the System on HDDs so that they can be read in (almost) one go sequentially without many random reads. So the HDD will reach its full read speed, which is close to the limit by the Sata cable, so the SSD can not be any faster.

[@HITARIX]

It makes me a little happy inside to see that the second language in the "Welcome-cutscene" was Danish. :3

[@guts2048]

The fans ramp up in Boot picker and Open Firmware i dunno why

[@KamuiS]

One thing that is probably keeping your start times about equal on both SSD and HDD is the speed and/or capacity of the RAM.

[@FNBoski]

Pizza's done!

[@secretlycanine]

+FNBoski liek ur avatar.

[@TimurTripp2]

Only the 21.5" 2012 and newer models made it harder to upgrade the RAM. On the 2012 and newer 27", you don't even have to unscrew any screws to open the access door on the back. That being said, everything else is harder to get to on those models.

[@shawnyoung5960]

Wished my G5 opened that easy . I got a 1TB SSD for it. Also I was yelling at you "watch it" while you were working on it. Almost sure it didn't make a difference here,... LOL.

[@cnflx]

what if you spilt orenge jiuce/

[@TheBiscuitTinRaider]

HOLY SHIT, IT'S TWO OF MY FAVOURITE THINGS: Drauga1 and the iMac g5!

[@TheBiscuitTinRaider]

*druaga*

[@OfficialYamiYam]

Three favourite things for me the third is pizzzzzzaaaaaa

[@AshtonMaxwell]

"so this isn't really a iMac performance test as much as it's just like a *wow* "

[@OCONTECH]

Comment 400 YES! 11:40 So hopefully you learned from this people & user, did you ever try to load boot from the FireWire 400 ports on a comparison level to the Serial ATA (SATA) 1 connection that you installed the SSD to. By SATA (1), I mean this Serial ATA bandwidth allocation is of a max rating of 1.5gbs as opposed to the SanDisk SSD you are utilizing that can go up to SATA 3 standards of 6gb/s (meaning even though generally backwards compatible the SSD will be capped to the SATA 1 standard max rate). From this alone, I would assume that the FireWire rate allows for faster transfer of data than the SATA port in the iMac G5 this SSD is being installed in. I would be curious of these results if not being perceived to be out of line. Peace!

[@TheRetroMess]

You should have taken the Lamarr Wilson approach to that SSD box. Grab both sides and rip, render, tear, chew until the good bits inside pop out in frantic fashion.

[@shelydued]

"Hey smokers" I put an sad into my laptop because of this guy! Now to do the same to my iPod classic 5.5gen!

[@MattHalpain]

I have a late 2012 mac mini that has a stock 5200 rpm Hard disk drive in it of which is very slow for opening apps. I use an external USB 3.0 to SSD as my boot disk and the external SSD blows away the internal SATA 5200 rpm hard disk drive as for comparing opening apps. But I think the boot time of the internal SATA hard disk drive and the external USB 3.0 SSD are the same.

[@TipsterLIVE]

I did this not too long ago too. Cool!

[@HarmonicaMustang]

If something doesn't work, use duct tape. If that doesn't work, use more duct tape.

[@fonkytommy]

OK, it looks to be working great but is how fast is Tenfourfox when browsing ? Nowadays most programs are web applications and having a fast and responsive browser is what will make us keep the old mac or throw it to the dogs.

[@chrism869]

Still started up fast

[@dmeagher101]

I don't really buy the "We had to get rid of expand-ability in order to make it thinner" argument that Apple makes nowadays when they used to have such elegant ways of opening up their computers. I don't see why a mechanism like the iMac G5's wouldn't work on today's iMacs.

[@ericstech3181]

You're right, it would work. Apple is all about proprietary, and monetization.

[@honse246]

This is the GOOD g5 design. My other model g5 was a DISASTER to open, I miss the thing but upgrading the hdd in it was pretty much a NO

[@pkerry12]

Its because you haven't got trim enabled and you didn't connect the temperature sensors if you had the imac took kit from OWC you would have being getting a new temp sensor for third party drives like ssds'

[@Twinrehz]

I don't know exactly which models it affects, but I believe it's most models; the fans will run at full speed if a) it takes more than 30 seconds for the computer to load the OS (which is the case when safe booting) b) when you load any pre-OS utilities such as the option-boot that Druaga1 used to boot from the external drive. Also, you can't install Panther on a Mac delivered with OS X Tiger (or newer) without doing some bypassing stuff.

[@ichoose2bhappy]

Hi, I have tried installing this software from the CD but halfway through it ask to restart. When I do nothing happens I just get a blank screen. Do I need to partition this as well? Thanks for your help.

[@LBXComputers]

Could the MacOS that was on the mechanical drive be patched up and this SSD install is clean and I patches so may be missing some optimisations?

[@windowsvista1559]

Considering you have an SSD on it then try getting copy of Lubuntu running on it since Lubuntu is light weight that should prove the SSD's speed

[@DanceDanceNorth]

Ubuntu should work just fine on a G5. I would only consider Lubuntu on a G3 or G4, and even then, a G4 slower than 1 GHz or the RAM inferior to 1 GB. In any case, I would still keep Tiger (G3) or Leopard (G4/G5) and run Ubuntu as a secondary OS.

[@panzerstef]

Why don't you install 10.5 leopard or 10.6 Snow leopard

[@checkerguybloxxer8139]

The loading circle on the boot screen always shows up at 7 seconds.

[@AidGum]

You uploaded this on my birthday :D

[@workingmanbh]

Hi, cool video ! But you should try with a installation of 10.5.8, which is the latest OSX available for ppc Macs. Also, if you search, there's an image with ppc-only binaries. 10.5 afaik, has "dual binaries", with x86 and ppc. So this guy removed the x86 part of the binaries, and the system becomes much lighter. Try that too.

[@estuardoguatemala]

The WD5000AAKS is a 7200 rpm HD with 300 mbps transfer rate. Almost the same speed as an ssd with SATA 2 bus

[@Ifalvarado]

Where did you get the PowerPC tiger installing and Mac OS 9? I need it for my power g4 cube

[@Davidmormino]

why did you not use a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter

[@sharkybrothers8473]

To get the OS on the external did you just copy the iso or whatever it is to the external?

[@raphaelseabra1868]

Hi, how can I do a boot cd like you used on this video?

[@forcefieldgaming3831]

I used to have a old Apple computer. It was one that but it was bulkier, the screen and tower was all in one. Does anyone know the name of it? Thx

[@Saukaron]

eMac maybe?

[@jasneilgill7974]

Why tiger instead of leopard?

[@RobR386]

Why don't Apple make the new iMac this easily upgradable? I was able to upgrade the RAM in my 27" 5K , but would like to upgrade the drive at some point, however I'm not comfortable removing the display even though it's only double sided taped on, (what were they thinking when they decided to use that method on a £1.5K machine)

[@matyev-hcuabg]

Why dont you use desktop install kit ?!!!

[@darknesse2575]

good job man - but how did u by pass the registration ?

[@Mei-rf2dz]

Definitely a bus bottleneck. Putting SSDs on old machines won't work everytime.

[@spaceship8621]

It will generally speed up performance either way. A hard drive will be shittons slower than an ssd, and differences can be noted even on sata 1

[@narwhal4304]

With how old the machine, and thus the hard drive is, I'd still take an SSD so I can assure that the drive is less likely to fail.

[@iEsteban123]

Not gonna lie, that thing is beautiful. Even to this day

[@mrdaxtercrane]

I thought you were meant to time the boot time from chine?

[@AiOinc1]

How are you doing the window splitting?

[@swordandshieldtechrepair]

Druaga1, everyone. If it is a computer, Then he will put an SSD in it.

[@Tomanista]

I don't know if I should be proud or scared that literally 5 seconds before he brought out the duct tape I was thinking "He should use duct tape"

[@WOSArchives]

The timer seems to run fine for me.

[@brycemw]

The NEXTSTEP is the installation of the operating system (which will not be NEXTSTEP).

[@BIGBOICOMBO]

I'm pretty sure someone else said this but : OS X needs to be configured in order to use the SSD to full potentials...do your googling

[@VectorOmega]

"I'm MacMan and I'm having a Mac Atak as I am about to do this...MAC ATAK!"

[@ColdestLivewire]

2.5" and 3.5" drives use different screws, #6-32 for 3.5" drives and M3 for 2.5" drives

[@diegosakk2934]

Expected more SSD's on random machines

[@zerocks88]

did you put more RAMsies?

[@mikemac2188]

after watching all of your videos I am wondering can I put an SSD in my Windows 7 computer and what would be the plus side if I do it

[@TACNERD1]

Try installing Windows 10 on it, I wonder if the load time would be better??? and for just because...

[@freetobe3]

+TAC NERD 1.0 iMac G5's were amongst the last PPC computers that Apple released. Windows cannot run in PPC cpu's, only intel.

[@TACNERD1]

+BLT I thought all the iMac's where Intel.

[@freetobe3]

TAC NERD 1.0 Only after mid 2006. Before that Apple's OS was all alone in the HDD.

[@raymundoabadhuicabtorres8548]

you conect the hard drive for firewire 400?

[@fonkytommy]

Has anyone done it and noticed some real diffference on speed in browsing the internet with TenFourFox ?

[@adam7868]

can you do a video on dial up

[@MRHOTCAKE]

could you do the same with leopard?

[@myleshoward9844]

Velcro is a good option because it is secure and you can take it out later.

[@MsChronicChronicles]

Epicness you crack me up thank you for sharing just bought a g5

[@PatchworkRose567]

"A quick little video." That's a good joke.

[@AvidSurvivalist]

I have an iMac G4 700 with only 256MB ram and it's pretty quick booting up.

[@jjohnson71958]

im interested in the wd blue 500gb desktop sata drive druaga 1

[@vnicolescu]

what is that external hard drive

[@jasonvicente3712]

I want to upgrade to Yosemite. My iMac was built in October 2006. My processor is a 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. I am currently running OS X 10.6.8.

[@jaydenridley4]

Linustechtips: Druaga, can I have some suds for a new pc? DRUAGA: NO! I NEED TO INSTALL ONE IN A GAMECUBE A TV ANPC A FRIDGE A WHATEVERYUCALIT AND A CACTUS. GO AWAY!!

[@Bendan]

"This [iMac G5] is the easiest computer to service." *PowerMac G3 wants to know your location*

[@BlueRockEye]

*Power Mac G4, G5 and Mac Pro want to know your location*

[@compactc9]

I've always thought these were good computers, and I love my 2013 model too. I need to eventually get one of the PCIe SSDs installed so I can have a fusion drive.

[@TadghCollins]

My Acer aspire z3-615 is very easy to work on as well... it pretty much has the same internal design in the iMac g5

[@WhyWePlayTruckSims]

Might be getting given a 2005 one of these, with a 2.1ghz processor and maxed out ram.

[@Mooseguy15]

TruckSimz i just bought one off ebay for like $30

[@Mooseguy15]

TruckSimz 2.1GHz

[@FelixO]

omg why are these so cheap everywhere. In germany youd pay like 120€ for one of those.

[@Mooseguy15]

VEOTech Ha! I bought an iMac G5 2.1GHz 1Gb RAM for $32 off ebay... I got a steal with that one. but RIP shipping costs

[@compactc9]

I wish my 2013 iMac was this easy to open up!

[@carrot7143]

my ibook g4 late 2004 has a ssd in it

[@GP1138]

7:40 - just bought that exact same drive from Best Buy for $60 - did this EXACT thing with that damn sticker. Fought with it for like 5 minutes.

[@Ozzy_Helix_]

this guy was mukbanging before mukbang was a thing

[@itogi]

Yay! New ssd video!

[@joshuasundheimer4218]

Orange Juice with Pizza? Now that's different