Installing Crown Molding: Coping

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[@calebhargrove6987]

reading the comments I see a lot of ding-dongs and hate (as usual on youtube)... been a finish carpenter/cabinet maker for 15 years and I'm just trolling around looking for new ideas. Just want to say thanks for your kind tone and detailed delivery! Very easy to follow for the inexperienced and we need more people getting excited about carpentry. Cheers!

[@jedgeco]

Thank you - this is by far the best coping demo and best explanation of the technique that I've come across. For any DIYers thinking about trying this for the first time, follow this demo to a T. And shell out for the Collins Coping Foot (and a jig saw if you don't have one); the money you spend on tools you will save in material you don't ruin.

[@joelewis9433]

I've been doing this stuff for over 35 years and that's a nice job there is manny ways to come up with the same results if the customer is happy and the job is good why all the haters commenting on this page most them know it all type guys will never be really good at there trades because they already think there better then the next guy therefore they stop learning better methods and just become another whatever kinda craftsman thanks for taking your time and making this video

[@gteaz]

All I can say is professionals do it all the same correct way. Cowboys try other ways. And I've worked with both. Professionals 45* mitre cuts in seconds. Cowboys, cut that, cut here, cut there whilst leaning over a moving jigsaw blade as shown in the video.

[@da324]

@@gteaz What happens when the corners aren't square? Oh yea, caulking to hide the mistakes instead of taking the time to do it right.

[@ScrewThisGlueThat]

Absolutely a fine demonstration of how a professional woodworker copes crown molding. I consider myself a pretty good woodworker already, but even I was amazed and I also learned something during this video. Thanks so much for your teaching.

[@jimsear]

Gary, yours is probably the best explanation and demo of coping with a jig saw that I've seen. I've had the Collins Foot for about 3-4 years now probably longer!) and have never regretted buying it. Once you get the hang of it it's so quick and easy. It may be worth pointing out in future videos that for best results, the jig saw blade must be very coarse, which is completely counter intuitive, Lots of guys comment on the foot but for some strange reason it hasn't yet caught on in the UK. Keep up the good work, you're brilliant. Regards Jim

[@jon89308022]

this is an excellent demonstration. I really like the miter trick, I've never seen that before. One thing that should be pointed out is that the jigsaw is in the lowest orbital setting, for better control

[@tsetendorjee9040]

Thank you very much for sharing your installing crown molding!👍

[@romanbenko8187]

Nice job on this video Gary. It was very helpful.

[@brady0528]

Great video! Good to know that there are still people out there doing things the right way! And thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[@jessegalvan4109]

At the very end when you made that notch well that's something I've never tried before thank you

[@harrypouncey9218]

Wonderful! When explained properly everything is simple

[@Jrr1976]

Great video. Started using the Collins foot its great! The old coping saw is great for pine, but that hard wood! This is the way to go. I still use the handsaw and files to tune it in. Lots of Shoe maker comments. This was a excellent video!

[@petermartin7622]

Well done explanation, Sir. Thank you.

[@lupinearsenalALT]

Years of practice right there. Beautiful cuts.

[@scoobytwo122]

Beautifully Done!!! Just came across your channel, well done and well presented.

[@reddirtgeorgia]

After 42 years of coping, I tried this a couple of times and immediately went back to coping with a hand saw. Then I saw a guy on KZbin using a grinder with a flap disc I tried it and it works great and fast.

[@nathanammon9082]

It’s the best way!

[@brandonpotter3629]

Yes it is the best way to be fast smooth and u get to keep your fingers and u don't need a jig or clamps and a table

[@danstill1111]

You are the best Gary. Thank you very much!

[@bretkowitz5928]

I’m glad you’re on our side

[@keithnp51]

He makes it look easy! A couple of observations - It seems like larger pieces of crown would be easier to cut with a bigger bearing surface for the coping foot. Typical 60's tract houses like mine have small rooms and maximum 10 ft ceilings so large crown molding would look weird. Small pieces are harder cut. Also I have yet to see a good demo of solo installation in a square/rectangular room with no outside corners, especially cutting the crown to the right length the first time knowing that the corner to corner length is not the same as the coped crown length.

[@bitterchild7133]

I've used this Collin's foot and it works really well but you need a special blade in your machine

[@justelvin]

Finish carpenter in Massachusetts and I'll be using the overlapping miter. Thank you!

[@brianoneill350]

Pretty good. Amazing accuracy

[@Steve-hj6xv]

Great stuff! I'm not a prima donna, traditionalist carpenter, so I appreciate your willingness to share some good tips that I have yet to figure out on my own due to inexperience. Plus, I'm just not as cool as some of these other tools. I think I'll still cope by hand, but I like your thicker overlapping miter and the butt-cope. I used to cope with a grinder which IS much faster, until I came to the conclusion that I'd rather work like a gentleman instead of choking on dust even when I got home like some Philistine.

[@ryanmccue8180]

Wear a 3m mask they are so good! I use for painting and they have filters for sanding too no more dry mouth no more sick feeling from too much paint or finish off the sprayer

[@chrisisc00l69]

Gorgeous end of the video

[@rogerjodoin505]

Isn’t the detail portion of the crown the bottom? Is this technically upside down and the client prefers it that way? Perhaps it’s a stacked crown?

[@raulmunguia2027]

Butt cut works great for flimsy MDF... thanks for the tip.

[@JoseGuerrero-zq4dm]

Muy bien señor usted es un buen maestro felicidades Bravo

[@Charlie9165]

Being new to this info, this is a great video, but other videos never mentioned to do anything but coping the mitered angle and fit it up to the first piece of molding that was cut flat against the wall. This is the first one that offered needing to another step - either an overlapping miter, or a butt joint on the bottom of the coped molding. Kinda confusing. Thanks for the video.

[@edwardsteele4022]

i found a grinder with a sanding pad on it the quickest method nice video though

[@MrLutzyboy]

Excellent. Awesome instructional video!

[@bobcat9314]

Very nice professional tips..thank you

[@georgebliss7674]

Katz is the man

[@udavidism]

Carpenters need to learn how to use a coping saw. This rig you have will cut that crown profile but you will be chewing all day long trying to grind out a piece of chair rail. Look for fine toothed blades and experiment with which one works best for you. Sometimes I use a sharpening stone to take just a slight amount of set off the sides of a new blade to make it cut smoother. Once you use a coping saw for awhile you can cut faster and better than anyone using a jig saw or a grinder. They will also be sunk if they ever have to put up chair rail.

[@zell863]

So you can not cope with jig saw and hence I should use hand saw. No if I would have to use hand saw I would go out of trade.

[@udavidism]

@@zell863 I can tell English is hard for you. I said that this will work on large crown molding, it will take far too much time on all chair rail or any molding with small curves in it. . It still took him 70 seconds to make his cut not counting putting it in the holding jig and then he cut the profile backwards. I can cut faster than that with a coping saw by hand and use it on any molding made. You go ahead and do what works for you and don't try to learn anything. If you are in such a hurry why not just miter the corners like a true jackleg.

[@zell863]

@@udavidism Man what f you talk about. Again you can not cope wit jig saw, it is all. Just put thing so what is jig saw? It is coping saw powered by electric motor. For you yours muscle cut and for me electric motor. How it work at 8" maple crown? How long you are coping, like say 3 years? I have only coping with coping saw around 5 years and 15 years coping with jig saw. It is like say why I would go to store with car when I can run to it.

[@michaelstiller2282]

I have been using a coping foot for about 4 years. There is no better tool when you have to work with large hard wood crown. Best advice I have is use a thick kerf, 6 inch blade, with course teeth.

[@jjleftyh2286]

Wouldn't ya know I have the Bosch 1590 & 1591EVS Jigsaws that the CCF Doesn't fit on?My question is, is this saw compatible? The Festool PS 300 EQ Trion Barrel Grip Jigsaw Model # 561443.I can't find the trion 300CF Model. This is the Only 300 Series I can find......anywhere. I'm a Crazy ass perfectionist and want to get my copes Perfect. After watching this vid, I threw my coping Saw up into a tree about 30 ft up in a neighbor's tree lol.I'll Never have to cope OAK by hand Again!!!!Thank You!!!!

[@georgesanchez9971]

Excellent video. Thanks for the instructions.

[@ReztoTex]

18th Century lighting shone from below up. 20th *Century lighting shines down from above. But what do I know... My ancestors lived in tipis. I still love this guy's channel.

[@4u2242]

i like the grinder with a flap wheel

[@alski259]

David Collins should know that this is probably the ONLY video that shows the most comprehensive use for the coping foot - I've searched A LOT. Do you have a link as to how to build the coping jig? I can't find any reference to it. Thanks.

[@chippysteve4524]

Glue and screw 2 no. 36"pieces of 3/4" ply together at approx90. Cut each end vertically at 90/45 avoiding the screws.Screw the upstand to the fence on your mitre saw with equal overhang each side. Set the trenching stop on the mitre saw so you don't cut through the jig. Screw a batten to the 'base' at the same distance from the back as from ceiling to base of coving. Put coving in jig upside down so the work is trapped by the batten at the front and the upstand at the back of the jig.. Cut with mitre saw. Slide work along the jig to the appropriate end. Undercut with coping saw. Test fit with a nearby offcut. Adjust with rasps/files whilst still in the jig. Hand pressure gives sufficient clamping force for such a gentle sawing action. All the work and adjustment is done on the mitre saw jig so you save space, time ,workbenches and clamps. MDF is the new asbestos/lead plumbing btw. If your customers want MDF then either: 1)get some life assurance and a high quality dust extraction system,a very big dumpster(offcuts are almost entirely useless,cannot be safely burned or composted) or 2) ideally get better/saner customers and let someone with less brains and ethics suck up that carcinogenic mass-produced toxic crap.

[@KTMBB71]

Like me, some of you may initially think he is cutting upside down. He is not. It is pointed out in the prior segment that it is Windsorone Classical and the ogee is SUPPOSED to be at the top.

[@garys9790]

Thanks for the clarification i thought i was crazy...kept thinking no that's not right!

[@mikemike7397]

Clear and concise thank uou

[@davidbuschhorn6539]

Who knew Stan Lee was also a cabinet installer?

[@FSAUDIOGUY]

Really nice instruction and helpful tips here! TY Sir!

[@RobertLugg]

great video you are a master carpenter

[@sureshbabu5687]

So....................Awesome……. Thank you very much. 🙏🙏🙏

[@SaltyBallBandit]

Great video!!!

[@snootslobber]

Finally! Thanks!

[@conantdog]

Great lesson 👀👍

[@ronamcdonald3505]

Thank you!

[@stevemoon8292]

Why wouldn't you just put a piece of 3/4 on top of your jig from the top section then once you close your jig it locks it in place. Instead of wasting the time putting another piece of wood on top of it and clamping that piece down. It just seems to me that nailing a piece of 3/4 wide wood on that top Edge and then setting the crown underneath would lock it in place as well without having to use 2 clamps. Just a thought

[@THISisCarpentry]

Crown molding comes in all different sizes. Flexibility is important, right? The 'cawl' is probably one of the most important parts of the jig. The molding will never move if it's supported properly.

[@redwood1957]

very good demo a dummy like me can understand (electrician) what blade do you use to coup ? thank you

[@vitaliyg3516]

Thanks

[@CDLeon1224]

Not fair ....on the tool .... but great Info..Lv your videos

[@kennedy67951]

Great video.

[@Modsnake98]

Great video, where can I find info on how to build that jig?

[@richardjones3112]

Brilliant!

[@peterlafayette5595]

Very good, thanks

[@Mikeynuts21]

Do you flapdisk now with a grinder instead of this way?

[@jjleftyh2286]

Is that a Home Made Jig?Another thing Gary. the Collins Coping Foot. Does that work with a Bosch jigsaw? or do I need the Festool Jigsaw?Thanks!!!! You ake it look soooo easy!!! I'm done with a coping saw grrrrrr especially when coping Oak! You know exactly what I mean too lol.Great Videos!!!! I've subscribed to your channel. because to be honest, your the Best guy I've seen do coping!!!JJ50

[@keithtomczyk4730]

I haven't coped crown in 25 yrs. I eve crowned an appointment inside corner that was a 45 without coping it. You just have to make a jig that puts the plane of the crown at 90 degrees to the fence and divide half the angle. Coping wastes time. You can see my crown work throughout the Grosse Pointes,Birmingham,and Oakland County communities in Michigan.

[@rodolfohernandez2312]

Keith Tomczyk Exactly what I said in my opinion people that cope are hawks

[@BradKempeny]

Great presentation, great work too, but your're installing the crown upside down. The ogee goes on the bottom.

[@mrhobbs5713]

I thought so too!

[@svenamundsen4879]

didn't consider the "notch"...will try that and see how that works...

[@franciscoayala7245]

Hi master. How can I install it on a festool?

[@svenamundsen4879]

I recently tried this and completely failed...what did I do wrong?

[@mackwoodcock7484]

what blade did you use

[@brandonpotter3629]

That's one way of doing it not the safest or best. Best is using and angle grinder with a sanding wheell. U don't need a jig or worry about chopping your fingers off. Plus it's faster and smooth

[@brandonpotter3629]

Great working showing how to do it with a jig saw. You are good at what u do

[@jxtdenco6984]

Everyone concentrates on the coped piece. I'm a complete novice. I have a 120 inside corner. At what angle do I cut the non-coped piece?

[@1987Drews]

What jig saw blades do you use?

[@markklaus4558]

Andrew Harris Bosch T244D.

[@johnsmith-wc8gs]

a grinder is much faster

[@garyl6265]

A hand held grinder with proper disc is 10x faster and just as crisp!

[@cmarsceau]

You used to install crown upside down? Nice.

[@brianfielder1035]

Christopher Marsceau if you install crown you know that it is both cut and coped upside down and backwards unless it is too tall for the fence when it is cut on the flat using the miter chart. Meat stores are always looking for butchers though leave the fine finish carpentry to the pro’s but track homes will always hire hacks 👌.

[@aservant2287]

When cutting just remember upside and backwards. The decorative part always on bottom. It easy once you do it few times. Be blessed bro

[@aservant2287]

After watching again, I think you're right Christopher. It would be installed upside down

[@waynemiller6070]

@@aservant2287 The decorative part is not always at the bottom. This video is part of a series. In an earlier video he explained that most of the time the decoration is at the bottom, but not on this particular molding. This guy is pretty sharp in my opinion. I've learned quite a lot from him.

[@aservant2287]

@@waynemiller6070 is that the one where he shows you from the saw point of view? Yes you are right when he's cutting it the Cove part is at the bottom, mind you that's how we cut it. Upside down backwards every time so when you flip it up right side up that it means that the cove part would be upside down and would be wrong I've watched both videos on cutting Crown this guy just hasn't been told or hasn't the experience the anybody rebuke him about the fact that it's upside down. He's got good points but been taught wrong. Any good experienced carpenter knows this. A broken clock is right twice a day. Bless his heart for trying but he's just installing it wrong

[@timbarry5080]

I must be using the Collins thing wrong, cuz I hate using it

[@juanjosebernardinoortiz9847]

Good job

[@jakezgab8576]

Educational

[@ryanmccue8180]

Too all the people saying they could do it faster with a hand saw sure. He was also going slower and exaggerating for the novices who need instruction not the pros who can do it with eyes closed. Besides angle grinder with flap disk definitely seems the way tho go everytime!

[@jimjohnston3188]

I certainly found this video interesting. Just a couple of questions/thoughts. Is this video intended for the DIY guys or professional carpenters? I ask this because of some of tools used are somewhat specialized. Yes you can use a coping saw to cope the ends which is a slow process. You seem to advocate using a Collins Coping Attachment, which is fine but is a tool that has only one purpose. Also you use a barrel type jigsaw with this attachment (which makes perfect sense) to make your cuts. I would guess most DIY folks have the traditional jigsaw with a handle which I would guess is a bit more cumbersome to use. Plus you need to build the jig to make it work properly. Again, a very interesting and informative video but are some people being discouraged from trying this because of the costs of the special tools, especially if they are just working on their own homes. Just wondering. Jim

[@davidsmith-kh8cs]

nice. too bad it's upside down

[@aldodellamano]

First thing I saw lol

[@gtpro700]

No he even says it in his other videos in the series that this crown is different then your typical crown and it may appear upside down but it’s not but nice try...

[@JP-qw7ui]

TRUE CRAFTSMAN!

[@carpenterdom1639]

Flap disc on an angle grinder. Fastest and cleanest copes

[@kevinintheusa8984]

I clamp my piece down to my miter saw and let it hang off and use an angle grinder with flap disc. Works great and it is fast.

[@zell863]

People not capable to use jig saw should drive school bus.

[@juego414]

Professional I like it

[@jasonthirlaway7412]

Coping saw is still the prefered way... I thought the festool would make it easier but its very clunky and too much room for error.

[@chippysteve4524]

I used to be a tool junky but I got over it. Festool= fuss tool = OCD. I wouldn't want anyone with Festool kit on my side in a crisis! :-) Make a coping sled for your mitre saw to suit the coving used (maximum 5 minute job)45 cut on the mitre saw.Undercut the 45 degree face by hand,with a coping saw with the board on a low stool held down with your goddam knee(you have 2 of them,one for left mitres and 1 for right mitres ;) and they are always on site) .Check for fit using an offcut then adjust/clean up with rasps if and only if necessary. One should be able to scribe accurately ENOUGH with a power mitresaw a coping saw and a few rasps after a bit of prctice and effort. All coving gets painted. All painted trim gets caulked before painting.The walls and ceilings are not going to be perfectly flat anyway so the caulk gun is already going to be used on the coving. Gaps up to ~1/16 " will be invisible at ceiling level after caulking so putting even 1 minute of time into being more precise means you are worrying about nothing & haven't understood what is actually REQUIRED. If your customer 'thinks' it looks a bit untidy....so what?Bet them 10 bucks per joint that it will look perfect afterwards and see how quickly they shut up! :-) Who (outside of politics) cares what the uninformed think anyway?

[@ningding1604]

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[@americanmade3650]

Everybody has there own way. I prefer the miter saw. And if I cope then I use a grinder. Miter = fast clean money.

[@jesphx1]

That’s great.... it must take you 3 weeks to do a couple rooms of crown.

[@snakemannailbanger2768]

Dude...the detailed edge is at the bottom so as to scribe flat edge for uneven ceilings or what not

[@davidjohnston1971]

My guess is he "scribes" with a 1 quart tub of hide a crack (vinyl spackle) and a 1" putty knife on painted trim. I've watched several of these "experts" with crown and the joinery is appalling. It would never pass on stained trim. Still it would be interesting to see him with 5 1/4" dentil crown with the detail up.

[@aaronsomeone7209]

if your so good why are you watching a how to video?

[@tedpancoast1272]

Yep

[@jimichan7649]

@@davidjohnston1971 Putty and paint will make it what it ain't.

[@MicEib]

Wow

[@ningis21]

And ..of course pray your corner is 90 degrees....or the square butt joint and the 45 degree mitre will be useless.

[@rodolfohernandez2312]

ningis21 there is a tool called protractor. To accurately read the angles Come on man you can find excuses for everything. miter cuts and glue the only way to go.

[@ericvandermeersch6677]

When you cope you don't have to worry about it being out of square by a couple of degrees... Especially if you back cut it a little bit.

[@EspinalCarlos1]

I wouldn't go through all this trouble unless I was dealing with finished material... Too much time and effort.. Nonetheless good demonstration

[@ChristIsLord229]

😂

[@emiliotacconelli2442]

You need some skill to use that jigsaw to make that coping saw, could a bit dangerous for the average DIY as the tip of the blade may hit the back of the molding and that won't be pretty. For the novice, a coping saw is your best bet, slow and easy.

[@zell863]

I just press crown with leg at horse and cope crown. Would cope this simple profile in 20 seconds.

[@jamesconnor2064]

Ill bet he spent more time making his jig, then you will installing a couple rooms worth of crown. Not to mention the thousands of dollars in festool tools hes using. Excellent work though!! Hes a pro

[@noahkelchner276]

Damn...

[@webgamersjames502]

Wow. What a waste of time. I would have had it coped before you got done setting up your clamps and jig and if not certainly by the time you made all your relief cuts with your festool. The old hand coping saw is faster and has WAY more control than a power tool.

[@karagenan]

7:29 damn i'm good :D

[@sacredwisdom7171]

Using a grinder is way better than this.

[@sacredwisdom7171]

+Dark Matter You obviously dont know anything about carpentry if the first tool that comes to mind is the one that you use daily for your addiction. Keep watching more videos like this so you can learn something useful. Get a life man

[@gabemckay6718]

Sacredwisdom71 after 12 years as a carpenter, I've used a coping saw, jig saw and now a grinder for the past year. grinder is my go to now. fast and accurate. honestly there is no right way to hog out the cope end, by any means necessary as far as I'm concerned

[@micahwatson9017]

Grinder any day...way quicker and more accurate.

[@crunch9876]

Sacredwisdom71 what kind of blade do you guys put on the grinder?

[@jecht34]

crunch9876 I use the Diablo sander accessory- plastic backing pad and low grit sanding discs. Not the flapping wheels- those don't cut well. I started with 80 grit but like to use 50 or 60. Alternatively you can just use an old grinding wheel as a backing pad too but the plastic backer is lighter and don't need to worry about it eating more out of the profile than I want. This is all for the 3 1/2 to 4 inch grinders

[@gsh319]

Holy crap. Ya kidding. All that instead of using your coping saw. No thanks. I'll just keep going old school. Cope on!!!

[@foreman3737]

I think you are mistaken about the top and bottom of crown. Just google it. Maybe its personal preference that you like it upside down .

[@mlmcasual]

Wow.. so now we know what Comedian John Stewart is doing these days..

[@crownspecialties]

But why??!!! I got this electric saw that cuts crown in about 3 seconds. Must take like 2 weeks to install a whole house of crown coping each inside miter. Good thing I work for fun and not for money haha

[@zell863]

???? It take me less than one minute to cope crown with jig saw. Plus I can adjust any angle at miter that I want. I bet you carry a lot of wood putty in box at all times.

[@crownspecialties]

Glenn Holcomb 😂 My miters come out perfect! Ya a clown that does it faster and better than you!! What state are you in? If you’re close come over I give free lessons. orangecountyhandymanservice.com