Installing Stainless Works Long Tube Headers on the 5.7 Hemi

In this episode I install a set of stainless works long tube headers on my Challenger R/T. After the install I upload a custom tune from HemiFever to get things running perfectly.
Instagram: @trackpackrt

[@shep446]

Watched your video for the second time, Since I just ordered SW headers. Thanks for taking the time to detail the install!!!

[@TrackPackRT]

No problem! You’ll love how your car drives after they’re installed!

[@shep446]

@@TrackPackRT Our 2010 has developed a exhaust manifold leak and I liked your comment to put headers on when addressing the fix since its the same amount of work. Looking forward to see what headers and high flow cats do to the car that already has a Magnuson SC.

[@TrackPackRT]

Todd Sears I couldn’t imagine doing that much work to just put the stock manifolds back on! Sounds like you have an awesome setup! I love the maggies and think if I was going s/c that’s the one I would throw on my car for sure.

[@shep446]

@@TrackPackRT I love what the Maggie has done to our auto car. It makes is into a real muscle car!

[@uncledamfee2347]

Awesome stuff man, Thank you for putting in the time, and effort into this video.

[@TrackPackRT]

Absolutely, thanks for the comment!

[@venomhemi3914]

SWEET, I had just ordered same... waiting for install

[@KeenanNale]

Love it. Exactly what I was planning and confirmed that it can be done. Good job

[@bigsteppa415]

Watched this video while i was currently installing mine THANKS FOR THE VID🚫🧢

[@TrackPackRT]

No problem, you'll love them once they're done!

[@crischapa7967]

Man your the only person that actually explains everything

[@TrackPackRT]

Glad it helped!

[@mark0decker827]

Mad respect for your patience and skills!! I'm too old. Nice vid brotha.

[@TrackPackRT]

Thank you sir! Patience is key! Also after doing it again for the second time (doing my cam swap and taking the heads off), it went substantially faster.

[@jonpayne2009]

Dude ... nice work you gained a subscriber. I like how level headed and relaxed you are and you take the time to explain everything to the best of your ability. Fwiw from past exhausts I’ve put on I always try to turn the clamps sideways “ nut on the bottom bolt by the floor” so I could gain ground clearance.... I learned the hard way on my z, some speed bumps taught me the lesson .... it sucked lol

[@TrackPackRT]

It’s funny you mentioned that, probably 2 weeks after this install I did the exact same thing and flipped them sideways! Cheers!

[@soletakenrt2920]

good vid makes me think i could do my own headers as well now.

[@TrackPackRT]

You absolutely could! If you want to give it a shot and run into any problems just fire me a message and I'll help you out however I can. Cheers!

[@hitman__3926]

Track Pack R/T well I’m taking my happy ass in the garage tomorrow and putting these corsa longtubes on! good content

[@TrackPackRT]

maurice george Hope it went good! Cheers!

[@gabecortez7419]

Great video man! I have a 6.1 Chrysler. Just a corsa exhaust on it last year super easy! Going to put LTs on this summer. How I can pull it off🙏. Godspeed brother🤙

[@TrackPackRT]

@@gabecortez7419 Lots of patience man. It is a fairly straight forward install but it's pretty slow going and you'll need patience and some skinny fingers. Very do-able though. If you tackle it and have problems fire me a message and I'll help if you need it! Cheers!

[@cautiontext]

That's a kick ass intro!

[@Batman-tb6fq]

WOW!!!!! Incredible..YOU ARE simply AMAZING. Love your videos. Thank you

[@TrackPackRT]

🙏🏻

[@Indigeaux797]

Great video. Makes me feel almost ready to attempt to do my 392 headers and midpipes swap on my 2018 5.7

[@TrackPackRT]

392 headers? Like the stock manifolds off of a 392? Either way you can definitely pull it off. You can always fire me a message if you need help during the install.

[@jesuscorral5451]

Currently doing this on my Grand Cherokee and I'm having trouble fitting the driver side because of the steering shaft I tried using your rotating tip and it gave me a different result but not there just yet. But definitely nice to make some progress. Thank you for the info!

[@TrackPackRT]

No problem, good luck and enjoy the extra HP!

[@89notch]

Great video!

[@nandog4950]

Great vid bro, amma install mine this weekend, did you use the RTV at all ?? Did you use OEM gaskets or RTV ?

[@EdoHannibal]

I was wondering the same thing

[@jefferywoods7287]

Could double nut the threads for the heat shield and use those nuts to remove the bolt. Great video tho!! Thanks for taking the time!

[@TrackPackRT]

Absolutely you could! Thanks man!

[@joshmillikan5675]

Jeffery Woods I know this comment was a while ago but could you explain what you are saying ?

[@Kuhladestkyicky]

If I tried that I’d still be under my RT. 30 years ago no problem. I lucked out and got open box JBA’s ceramic coated for $400. I wanted headers with an EO# for smog.

[@TrackPackRT]

They should pick you up some good hp!

[@5000BlueStudios]

Great channel! Keep up the good work!

[@TrackPackRT]

Thank you!

[@danieljhalfacre833]

I haven't finished watching, but investing in some flex head ratchet wrenches would make this easier from what I've seen...? Seems sockets and regular or cordless ratchets interfere with tight spaces. GearWrench is what I use. Good Video, tho Man!

[@TrackPackRT]

Swivels definitely helped on a couple of them, after doing them a second time when I installed my cam I found even going down to a 1/4” drive ratchet and 1/4” drive socket saved a fair bit of space too that made some spaces more manageable to tighten. Some bolts you just have to be a little creative on. Haha

[@metalmike364]

Yeah I done this job twice next time show doing top Bolts. the top front three they are the hardest. 2 different vehicles. Left side you got to remove the coolant jug right side move the ign coil and Lyft engine 3 inches.

[@TrackPackRT]

You don’t have to, as I didn’t here, but it does allow you to access them from the top a lot easier.

[@Thorne920]

Thank you for the video.

[@donfinkey692]

Wow, well done!

[@vorticosecomb]

9:57 I knew there had to be a way to finagle this!!! Shit... maybe I will do this myself. headers have been sitting in my garage for a solid month now haahaha

[@TrackPackRT]

Give it a shot! I hadn’t done headers before I made this video, it’s definitely do-able. Just be patient with it, it will take time, and it is tedious but not complicated. Lots of different extensions, swivels and deep sockets will make it not so bad.

[@k0d0kan]

great tips. Thank you

[@CTX50]

Awesome video! Is there a difference in ground clearance from the stock setup to the long tube exhaust? Thank you

[@TrackPackRT]

Yes and no. The headers sit lower than the stock manifolds do at the collector but that pretty much just lines up where your mid pipes would be anyway. I did scrape a few times going over some large speed bumps but that scrapage was back where the high flow cats connected to the cat back exhaust and I realized it was the bolt up clamps that were supplied with the kit. I had the ears of the clamps facing down as initially it was easiest to bolt them that way. After that I rotated them so they were parallel with the ground and higher than the bottom of the exhaust pipe anyways and haven’t had a scrape since.

[@CTX50]

@@TrackPackRT Thanks for your great response!

[@RayRay-ct4od]

Thanks for debunking the common issues. Did you use RTV OR add a gasket to the headers ?

[@TrackPackRT]

@@RayRay-ct4od use factory metal gaskets, RTV would smudge and leak when you are trying to line up the headers.

[@David-qf9gp]

Nice detailed installation I ran shorties myself and installed them without messing with the motor mounts as well. It looks from your video that the stainless works long tubes tuck well under the car and do not hang down past the frame, is that true?

[@TrackPackRT]

Yea the really do seem to sit up tight to the car, not much difference in height with the old system!

[@BornToBeFamed]

Damn thats a tight fit. I thought an fbody was hell lol. I will be paying for this install lol😂😂😂 just not gonna happen change plugs to

[@TrackPackRT]

BornToBeFamed It is tight for sure but not nearly as bad as I thought it would be!

[@Grauwulf75]

Great video! I've been binge watching your vids today, and I'm looking forward to seeing the dyno results from your VVT Lockout! Just a question about this install, are the mid pipes as tight to the floor pan as they look when you are installing the mids and cats? Have you had any issues with rubbing or rattling? Also it's great to see another Canadian producing Mopar content!

[@TrackPackRT]

Glad to hear, thanks for the kind words! No problems with any rubbing with my exhaust, the only thing I did a week or 2 after the initial header install was rotate my clamps so they were facing parallel to the road instead of up and down. It gave me an extra inch and a half of clearance. Other than that no issues or problems!

[@Grauwulf75]

@@TrackPackRT I saw that in other comments. I've lowered my car slightly from the stock STP springs and I've only whacked my transmission mount bolts off one speed bump with a bunch of weight in the trunk, but I'm kind of paranoid of having anything hanging lower than that. lol

[@TrackPackRT]

@@Grauwulf75 I haven’t scraped on anything yet if that helps!

[@roberthunter2263]

Hey did you use the gaskets that came with the headers or kept the stock ones or got a new set of oem gaskets with heat flange.? I’m hearing some nightmares with the sw and kooks supplied gaskets not sealing properly!..

[@TrackPackRT]

I got some new factory metal gaskets from dodge. That’s definitely the way to go.

[@roberthunter2263]

@@TrackPackRT nice 👍 ok thx

[@roberthunter2263]

What abt the bracket for dip stick? Did you use factory bolt or new hardware with spacer

[@TrackPackRT]

@@roberthunter2263 I’m pretty sure I used the factory bolt on that one dipstick mount if I recall.

[@roberthunter2263]

Would you happen to know the torque specs for headers and mid pipe to collector bolts?

[@nicasiohernandez7626]

Dude this is so bad ass thanks for the video. I just got my biablo t1000 last week for my 09 challenger same as your but blue. now I'm thinking about doing my long tubes myself? Hopefully it's not a failure? How was the gain? With and without the tune?

[@TrackPackRT]

The gains are huge with long tubes, I feel like it should be everyones first mod on their Challenger. It makes it feel like a totally different car, pulls really hard and sounds amazing! Didn't try without a tune, I made sure I had one done right away. If you don't have a tune with headers your knock sensor will mistake the sound of the headers for detonation and start pulling timing negating the gains you made and throwing a code. I'd say give it a shot, you can definitely do it yourself!

[@maxwell-style4584]

Great info man, thank you! I developed an exhaust leak on both sides so now I'm thinking of fixing the problem with some long tube headers. What kind of gaskets do you recommend(soft/spongy or the OEM gasket? Thanks again!

[@TrackPackRT]

Jose Estrada absolutely get the OEM metal gaskets, they are the best. If you have to take the manifolds off anyways there’s no reason not to throw headers on, it’s the same amount of work! Enjoy the extra power!

[@jairoromero25876]

Recently got these of some guy didn’t give me extension for 02 sensor and didn’t include bolts. Any help on how to get bolts and 02 sensor extension for this headers

[@TrackPackRT]

I believe you could reuse your old bolts, I think they’d be roughly the same length. If your bolts are in bad shape you could grab new ones from dodge, they wouldn’t be much I’d imagine.

[@youngbuckrestoration3912]

Hey man, love the vid. Couple of questions though: A, were you using the OEM gaskets? My SW kit only came with high temp rtv and didn't mention anything about gaskets. B, my kit also came with a spacer for the dipstick tube, did you have to install one as well? Thanks!

[@dirtyjoe51]

You'll have to order the OEM gaskets.

[@TrackPackRT]

Yes, get the OEM metal gaskets! Using only the silicone will leave you with exhaust leaks to fix and you don't want to do this install twice! I did get a spacer for the dipstick tube yes, just leaves a little clearance for the one header tube.

[@brucebeamer2298]

So got my headers today. And been watching this about six times. Kit didn't come with gaskets just rtv. Can I ask if you used it or gaskets? Also any tips? I have the exact same car. Thanks, watching this again 😎

[@TrackPackRT]

Don’t use the RTV, it’ll smear and not seal by the time you get the headers placed. Grab a new set of metal factory gaskets from Dodge, you won’t have any problems!

[@brucebeamer2298]

Seems a 2014 has problem removing the dipstick tube. One bolt won't back out completely. Any ideas?

[@TrackPackRT]

@@brucebeamer2298 the bolt should back out. I’m pretty sure the dipstick bolt is a different size than the rest of the manifold bolts but it does come out like the rest. If you’ve got it to back out a fair ways it should just come the rest of the way out, there shouldn’t be anything else stopping it.

[@brucebeamer2298]

There I go reading the forums, LoL

[@emiliopatino3210]

Nice job man I’m doing the same headers right now how did you get the gasket to stay in place while mounting the header I’m having a hard time holding it in place

[@TrackPackRT]

I put 2 or 3 bolts through the gasket and the header flange and balanced that as I lifted it into place to get one bolt started.

[@EdoHannibal]

@@TrackPackRTSW doesn’t recommend a gasket

[@timbo713]

So I just ordered the same package from speed logix, was there anything else you needed for the install. I ask because on stainless works site it shows everything including clamps and O2 extensions but on speed logix site it just shows long tubes cats and mid pipe, one other thing if you don't mind me asking roughly how much for the email tune ? By the way you should get some kind of commision for the purchase cuz this video is why I bought them LOL

[@TrackPackRT]

The only thing extra I bought was the metal gaskets from Dodge. The kit comes with RTV, don’t use it, get the metal ones. My first mail tune was from Hemi fever, it wasn’t too expensive, I think his prices are listed on his website. Stoked for you Tim, the first drive after the install is awesome!

[@mdh2os7]

I would love to know if everything you say holds true for the automatic. I have an 05 Magnum and I really don't want to mess with the motor mounts if I don't have to.

[@TrackPackRT]

I can't see how the automatic would make a difference really. The header collector ends before the transmission everything near the motor mounts themselves should be pretty close to the same just so long as there wasn't any changes between the 05 and the 09 5.7 hemi, that I can't verify.

[@kelinjohnson7421]

@@TrackPackRT its the same setup bro

[@bandcshow11d6]

My problem is on the passenger side I can’t get to the top two middle bolts to bolt on the headers

[@craigslue]

Great job and good video. Some brands of headers will cause different clearance issues. Sounds like you like the Stainless Works and when I get around to it that is probably going to be my choice as well. Did you get the US made or cheaper version headers made out of the U.S.?

[@craigslue]

BTW I have found that your best friend when installing headers is a swivel head ratchet wrench. I will never ever try again to install headers without them.

[@TrackPackRT]

@@craigslue I know the Kooks fit differently for sure and I'd imagine JBA's do too so I can't comment on them specifically. I'm pretty sure mine were made in the US, got them off the speedlogix site I believe. I just thought it was strange that in the Stainless Works instructions it was telling me to do a bunch of steps that we unnecessary to do. Swivels are lifesavers for doing headers! I had swivels, 5 different length extensions, 2 different length 13mm deep sockets, 13 and 10 mm speedwrenches and an extendable magnet which were pretty much must haves for the install!

[@craigslue]

BTW did I mention I like your intro music, well I do. Looks like Speedlogix list the budget SW headers under Stainless Power SHM64HDROR and the USA made as Stainless Works HM64HDROR. No dis intended on your purchase or install. I personally would probably go with the cheaper headers because well, I'm cheap or should I say budget minded within reason. I guess if I was really cheap I would go with knockoff ebay headers but I'm not that cheap. I believe in doing headers only one time! All things being equal even exact parts and cars will have variances and not all will have the same experience and of course not all have the same skills or the ability to hold their tongue just right! I'm sure no doubt you had plenty of tools to accomplish the task otherwise you wouldn't have. Just saying the swivel/flex ratchet type wrenches are a lifesaver when doing headers or many other jobs. For those about to attempt header install highly recommended and a must have for me personally.

[@TrackPackRT]

@@craigslue The producer my band worked with for our 2 records is the guitar player in the band for my intro music. They're called Royal Tusk and they're an excellent band and really awesome guys! No offense taken at all, I knew what you meant! There is no way you can do this install without a swivel, definitely a must have!

[@_.kvng.ky_1081]

Thinking about trying this myself any other tips or tools recommendations also how long did it take you for install?

[@codyst.germaine3192]

Hey man ur in edmonton Ab? I installed lt's on my truck. Jist gonna put the stock dipstick back on and wondering if urs hit at all? I bought jba's and what hardware did u use? I used 6.1 oem gaskets. Nice clean install

[@TrackPackRT]

I just bought factory 5.7 metal gaskets for the headers, as they only give you silicone with the kit. As for the dipstick they gave a spacer there to push the dipstick out a little further if I do recall.

[@soufianDEMOS]

Will it easily fit a CHARGER RT 07 RWD ? No clearance issues ? How difficult on a scale of 1 to 5 please ?

[@HollywoodProductionz]

On the passenger side, did you leave a small hole open on the front of the head? Or did the header covered it.

[@anthony2039]

Can you post the part number? & which off road Midpipes did you use? Great video btw.

[@TrackPackRT]

Didn't use off road pipes, used high flow cats with these as the difference in performance is next to nothing, so I thought I might as well go a little greener. These are the headers I went with: www.speedlogixstore.com/product-p/hm64hdrcat.htm

[@signal4x77]

You had to remove the dip stick from the block? If so didn't oil gush out? Or did u just have to remove a bracket?

[@TrackPackRT]

You have to remove the bracket and tube because it's held on by one of the top manifold bolts on the passenger side. You take it off when the stock manifold comes off and then you replace it when you install the header.

[@signal4x77]

@@TrackPackRT thank you I see what u mean. Actually just got both sides off 5mins ago. That passenger side is SUPER tight on my 2018 6.4L. Not the most fun I've had but definitely not the worst. Thanks for the video and response!

[@TrackPackRT]

@@signal4x77 Good work man, good to hear! It's not super hard, it just takes patience.

[@Billsor1979]

Thank you the video!! I have long tubes sitting in a box. I keep debating if I’m gonna donut myself or not. How many hours did the job take you?

[@TrackPackRT]

You could absolutely do it yourself! I don't really think about it as difficult, just time consuming. You'll spend a lot of time just getting one bolt out or tightened up properly. It's an install that requires patience for sure. I did mine over the course of a few days. Just came home and worked on it bit by bit after work on the week days. Probably took close to 10-11 hrs maybe total?

[@greazedlightninggarage6768]

The manual engine mounts different are than the automatics? I wonder if that's why you didn't have to remove them?

[@spxxdboat5000]

Yes they are

[@a4029849110]

Did you have trouble with the middle bolts on the top? I am not able to get them started. Specifically second from the front.

[@rhandbhf4ever]

So I'm guessing you'll need lots of extensions and wobble sockets for that job. Any tips on specialty wrenches needed for that?

[@TrackPackRT]

That’s the biggest thing. Swivels and extensions. I also had a couple different sized deep sockets that helped. Having done it twice now there are spots where a quarter inch drive ratchet would come in handy to save extra space.

[@Salty_Ritz]

When putting the passenger aide headers on, the 2nd tube from the front is making contact with a head shield stud on the motor mount. How'd you get around this?

[@dalegapusan6790]

Sick video, It was a toss up between the Shorties and Long tubes. After seeing your other videos, Im going with Longs. What kind of parts did you use for the Cat and the 90 degrees in the mid pipe? Im thinking about working it myself.

[@TrackPackRT]

Don't go shorties, honestly I feel like they are such a waste of time and take literally the same amount of effort on the install. I'd only consider them if you were dead set on lowering the car a lot. I went with high flow cats on mine, the midpipes and everything you need to hook up to the factory catback are all in the kit, no need to make your own mids!

[@brucebeamer2298]

Sound great, nice crack to it. SW out of stock, looking at kooks or bbk. Can my Diablosport i3 do the tune?

[@TrackPackRT]

Kooks have a good reputation for great quality headers. I’m sure you could do a tune with the Diablo sport, just make sure you know what you’re doing first. Tuning Hemis is definitely complicated.

[@brucebeamer2298]

How far were you able to thread the bolts in, I ask because of the 2nd and third bolts seem to be behind the 1&2 exhaust pipe? Put them in first?!

[@TrackPackRT]

There’s a couple bolts on that passenger side that are extremely hard to thread. The second time I did it (when I had my heads off doing my cam) I found some of these more difficult ones were easier for me to tackle from the top of the engine. There’s a couple that are easy to start on the passenger side that will hold the header and gasket in place leaving your hands free to tackle the tough ones in the middle.

[@bignaj3992]

I have a 2007 Chrysler 5.7 AWD.... I would imagine that installing headers would be an issue for me since I have driveshafts and shit 🙁.

[@TrackPackRT]

That one I'm not too sure of as I don't even know what the underside of an AWD 5.7 looks like! I would say to talk to the guys at Stainless Works and see what they say.

[@bignaj3992]

Lol it’s just a bunch of useless weight added 🤣 but thanks for the quick reply

[@brucebeamer2298]

Okay, started to take heat shield off on passenger side, and noticed that that side doesn't have the bigger hole for sleeve for dip stick. It has a welded tube. The driver side has the hole. Should I be worried or were your the same?

[@TrackPackRT]

Hmm off the top of my head I can’t remember.

[@brucebeamer2298]

@@TrackPackRT so got the headers on, all but the second top bolt from the front. Thanks for the tips and low down on what does and don't need to be done. Eight hours, LoL. Thanks bro!

[@TrackPackRT]

@@brucebeamer2298 nice job! I think I did mine over a series of evenings after work! Enjoy man, the first drive is always pretty fun!

[@niterbum]

awesome video for your fellow diyers....that's me on my back in the driveway, car 6 inches from my face...will a 2010 rt 6sp man be the same as an 09?

[@TrackPackRT]

Absolutely. It’ll be identical. The exact same PITA haha. Good luck, it’s worth the work!

[@carnelld.i.ytobegreat6954]

Nice vid I’m looking to put some long headers on my rango r/t I hear that the gasket on aftermarket headers aren’t that good and will need to be replaced over time ?

[@TrackPackRT]

Lots of them just come with silicone, just buy a set of factory metal gaskets they are by far the best you can use for the install.

[@ceramicgrey300s9]

Did you use OEM mopar gaskets? If so did you have to notch the flange for the gaskets to fit the header? I just install this exact set of headers and I am having a leak and cannot get the midpipe clamps the seal.

[@TrackPackRT]

I used factory gaskets for it yes. They are by far the best option for no leaks. I didn’t notch them at all, they fit great! I also had no problem with the mid pipes leaking. Really I just made sure the midpipes were shoved into the clamp pretty much the whole way and impacted them. No problems.

[@ceramicgrey300s9]

@@TrackPackRT I have heard that when using stainless works headers with the OEM gaskets there are 3 bends on the gasket that will come in contact with the flange making the header not sit flush. Many said I will have to notch out a spot on the flange for it to work. I have a leak right now and that’s what I think it is.

[@TrackPackRT]

@@ceramicgrey300s9 hmm, that’s weird. I haven’t notched mine and they fit just right and didn’t have any issues. That seems odd to me.

[@YGSpider]

Did stainless works give new hardwear with the new LT's? I'm thinking about doing Stainless power Longtubes on my Challenger

[@TrackPackRT]

New hardware, but not gaskets, you’ll want to buy factory metal gaskets when you do the install.

[@YGSpider]

@@TrackPackRT Ok good to know , I'll pick them up too, mines a 21 so I gotta do a few other bullshit steps too unlock the PCM, It would be intresting to see the diffrence the 8 speed would make with your mods.

[@TrackPackRT]

@@YGSpider the 8 speeds are beasts, hard to argue that!

[@KionteStevenson]

I was wondering the same thing, I have a 2006 charger with pacesetter headers I want to put on but it said motor mounts and steering shaft would have to come down but 06 charger and 06-09 challenger are built similar aren’t they?

[@TrackPackRT]

Should be the same!

[@timbo713]

So you're saying alot of new swear words will be discovered LOL

[@TrackPackRT]

haha yea definitely tests the patience that's for sure!

[@caitybitter5017]

Currently doing this on my charger, i know its an old video but how can i contact you with questions i have im completely lost on how to reach the top bolts

[@TrackPackRT]

Caity Bitter absolutely, fire me an email at [e-mail] and I’ll help you out the best I can. Cheers!

[@r7410q]

After the install, was there any check engine light? Thanks

[@TrackPackRT]

No, but I only took it for a quick ride to make sure there were no exhaust leaks and then immediately did data logging to allow my tuner to make me a tune.

[@FredyFrog10]

Track Pack R/T what was the tune for?

[@christophermcleary8091]

Hey I've been trying to decide weather I should wrap my long tube headers or just put them on without it, I just got a pair of bbk long tube headers for my 6.1 in chrome and I want to know your opinion on what I should do

[@TrackPackRT]

Get them ceramic coated, that’s what I did. Ceramic coatings will help keep the heat in the header and out of the engine bay.

[@JeremyMichaelJordanDIY]

Hey man, what device do you have there that you are tuning it with? Did you just send it off to that site and they do it?

[@TrackPackRT]

It's an old Diablo tuner. Got it in 2009, the new ones are much sleeker. When doing a remote tune you do some data logging with the device which records what ever parameters you choose. You then send those files to your tuner and he makes some adjustments and sends you a tune which you download into your car.

[@MidwestMotor]

2 days ago I picked up my 2021 Durango RT with Tow N Go Package - do you want to install my AR long tubes??!

[@TrackPackRT]

Haha man, if I had the time my friend! Doing the cam in my car means I’ve had to do it twice, it’s a pain for sure!

[@randallfox4265]

I have a 6.1.Wonder if it is the same?

[@TrackPackRT]

Should be exactly the same!

[@liuakiliu8180]

Did your Engine light on or passed smog I’m looking forward to install the same header

[@TrackPackRT]

It never tripped an check engine light but I got it tuned immediately after the headers went on. We don't have smog testing here in Alberta but I'm guessing if you're in an area with strict emissions testing it would be worth looking into if these headers would be legal or not in your area. I do have the high flow cats on my setup and I highly recommend them!

[@vic_inna_vic9553]

Did you have to remove anything in order to get access to there or is it straight unbolt and bolt right up?

[@TrackPackRT]

You have to take out the plastic splash guard under the car, that was about it. The install is really straight forward, it's just the limited access that makes it a difficult one. Definitely do-able, I've done it twice now, you just have to be really patient and sometimes a little creative in which angle you attack some of the bolts.

[@tjbjjtkd]

I've been debating on tackling putting on headers on my 21 challenger. I also found out if you have a 2015 or higher that you half to get the PCM unlocked for a tune. Is this true?

[@TrackPackRT]

That is definitely true. Not a huge deal but it does add extra costs to any modding you want to do unfortunately.

[@jacrain9396]

Did you keep your stock h pipe and cat back when you first dynod it after headers?

[@TrackPackRT]

I did for a long time after this yes. It wasn’t until quite a bit after the cam that I upgraded the catback.

[@andrewdegroot9008]

I got my SW headers in the mail for my 2010 charger RT. What did you use for hardware? SW supplies bolts but i don’t know if they’re any good

[@TrackPackRT]

I just used their hardware save for the oil dipstick factory bolt, I kept that one.

[@andrewdegroot9008]

@@TrackPackRT Awesome thanks man!

[@kamakazewatermelon4400]

Just curious, did you find a write up of how to do it? I have a charger and I'm thinking of tackling it on my own soon, but I don't want to end up stranded at the garage I'm renting lol.

[@kamakazewatermelon4400]

I mean most of it seems pretty self explanatory, but like are their any tricks to make it easier?

[@TrackPackRT]

Definitely haven't seen a write up. It is pretty straight forward. You can do it, it just takes patience and time.

[@timbo713]

if you don't mind me asking where did you get the kit from and how much did it run ya ? I'm planning on doing the same

[@TrackPackRT]

I got the headers from speedlogix. I know the price on these has gone up a bit, they’re $1500 now with the high flow cats just like I installed.

[@timbo713]

@@TrackPackRT thank you I’ll looking at getting me some . Awesome video by the way 👍

[@TrackPackRT]

@@timbo713 🙏🏻

[@timbo713]

Just ordered the Stainless power with high flo cats and mid pipe, hoping with the borla atak catback that she wakes her up 👍

[@TrackPackRT]

@@timbo713 should do the trick!

[@timothyholder1146]

Did you have enough room to put a torque wrench on the header bolts?

[@TrackPackRT]

Definitely not. I'm sure I could've tried harder with more swivels ect, but I'm pretty sure a sharp angle with a swivel will give you an inaccurate reading with a torque wrench anyway. Just made sure they were nice and tight, checked for leaks on startup and called it good.

[@kahlesspinvidic6692]

How’d you get the top middle bolts on the passenger side? I’m stuck there with my install rn

[@TrackPackRT]

Don’t remember specifically, but I know I had 2 different length deep sockets and swivels. Also if it helps grabbing a quarter inch ratchet and socket will save you some space. Some of them you can get from the top as well if that’s easier for you.

[@McRoadPVP]

Would this be a similar setup on a 2018 challenger rt? Im putting on Hellcat headers and a catless midpipe. Was wondering how long installation would be because shops are saying 8+ hours of labor

[@TrackPackRT]

Yep they aren’t wrong. After you’ve done it a few times I’m sure you could get it a little faster, maybe shave an hour off, but expect to spend 8-10 hrs on it if you can easily get your manifold bolts off. If they’re rusted bad it could be on the heavier side of 10 hrs. It doesn’t really matter either if they’re shorty, long tube or just replacing the stock manifolds, the bolts are equally as hard to access for the most part, they’d be close to the same install time.

[@docmoose9688]

Would this video also apply to a 6.1?

[@TrackPackRT]

Yes it’ll be the same thing.

[@reginaldrountree6891]

If you don't mind let me know which of the best headers to install long tube or short to which one give the most horsepower which one better for the five seven

[@TrackPackRT]

I can’t think of too many reasons to go shorties over long tubes. Long tubes make quite a bit more power and the argument about shorties being better for low end torque is kinda bs. When you put long tubes on a stock 5.7 immediately it almost feels like another car, huge difference.

[@jaymoe5.7]

debating on doing the stainless works headers on my 2011 Ram 1500 with the 5.7 hemi. Did you notice much of a difference in power and sound?

[@TrackPackRT]

Night and day different. It literally felt like a different car after that. I've dropped .6 seconds so far in the quarter mile (that was traction limited, I just cured my wheel hop so it will likely work out to be more than that if the tracks ever re-open), and sound the is great! My headers are going into the stock catback and it still made a big difference in sound.

[@jaymoe5.7]

@@TrackPackRT awesome to hear, I have a side exit exhaust and it already barks with cats and manifolds, so with headers id assume it would sound great! Thanks for the info, and 6 seconds off your 1/4 time is no joke! Awesome work!

[@TrackPackRT]

@@jaymoe5.7 that's supposed to be 0.6 lol I suspect that's going to be closer to 0.9 to a full second now that I've got the car launching properly. It's a great mod, wakes the car/truck right up.

[@jaymoe5.7]

@@TrackPackRT ohhh ok I gotchya, I was gonna say like damn man you must've dialed that thing in right! 😂 and good to hear, gonna order me some right now!

[@daniilnepo436]

Quick question. Did it go straight bolt on? Everyone says you have to move your engine around.

[@TrackPackRT]

Yes, I bolted these straight up without undoing steering linkage or motor mounts. I can verify this 100% works with the Stainless Works headers, not entirely sure about other brands but I can't see it being much different honestly.

[@daniilnepo436]

Man I keep hearing how hard it is to install it from a lot of people. I live in Hawaii and they want 1k just for labor. Definitely looks like a lot of work but I’m try. Do you think I’m have any issues installing this thmotorsports.com/8770175-kooks-headers-34104200-cat-back-exhaust-kit?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoO6JvoTT4gIVlMBkCh33lwU4EAQYBSABEgIen_D_BwE

[@lalomontoya1444]

@Track Pack R/T hey man i was wanting to ask you a question on my Dodge Challenger rt 5.7 do you think you could help me figure a problem I have with my new headers

[@TrackPackRT]

Sure, what’s going on?

[@lalomontoya1444]

@@TrackPackRT so I ordered 2,000$ headers from stainless works and I had a mechanic install them for me when ever I start it I will hear like a loud scraping noise or nocking coming out of the engine bay from the left header wen I drove it ital get louder but after 5 minutes it will go away I would be parked at the store sometimes for 5 minutes and it would come back I called the mechanic and he said that’s normal for it to sound like that then go away I just want to make sure I don’t mess anything up in my engine what do you think it could be 🙏

[@DevillSRT]

How long does it to install the long tube headers on a lift? Is it a time consuming?

[@TrackPackRT]

Definitely. This job will take you around 10 hrs I'm guessing.

[@bradmaguire86]

I just installed a set of long tube headers on my 09 challenger. What do i do next? a tuner?

[@TrackPackRT]

Definitely want to get it tuned. Either remote or dyno tuned, remote is probably fine.

[@bradmaguire86]

@@TrackPackRT thanks bro i appreciate it.

[@jessebalderas1865]

How did you get the top header bolt on cylinder #4. That is a tight fit to even try to start it

[@TrackPackRT]

I don't remember now, but there were definitely some crappy spots to get at. I had various sized deep sockets, swivels and extensions. After I had done it a second time when I took the heads off during my cam install it dawned on me I could've also saved some space on some of the bolts by going down to a quarter inch drive ratchet and socket which might have helped me on a few of the tougher bolts. Some of them you just have to be creative. There's also bolts that you can try to ether get from above or down below depending on what works better for your reach or how skinny your arms/hands are.

[@jakesims1420]

Hey man great job, did you use your stock manifold gaskets and heat shield with those, or just re used the heat shield is what I noticed?

[@TrackPackRT]

The heat sheilds can't be re-used as the shape doesn't work with the headers. I did buy a new set of factory metal gaskets though as only silicone came with the kit which I wouldn't trust to make a proper seal by itself.

[@joshuaburton4809]

Does long tube headers require a tune for a 2015 charger r/t 5.7?

[@TrackPackRT]

Yep. If you don’t tune for them the sound of the cylinders firing in the long tubes will trigger the knock sensors and the car will pull timing, negating power gains you would make from the better exhaust flow.

[@warrenwaymack7366]

Did u reuse heat shield

[@txhombre9693]

How long did it take you to remove factory exhaust manifold?

[@TrackPackRT]

Not long at all actually. Had them both off within the first hour or so.

[@geezersgarage8181]

You didn't even start it to hear it run open ? ?

[@TrackPackRT]

Hahaha no I didn't. Chalk that one up as a missed opportunity!

[@damico678]

Hey man quick question. Did you have to get any o2 sensor extensions

[@TrackPackRT]

Yes you do need extensions, but they come with the stainless works headers.

[@damico678]

Awesome. Thanks for the quick reply I really appreciate it. Keep up the great posts and most of all enjoy your car!!!

[@TrackPackRT]

Absolutely, cheers!

[@frankiehernandez3227]

I’ve also seen people extend the o2 sensors themselves with an extension kit they just splice some wires and heat shrink . Same thing right ?

[@BADMOPARCZ]

What size of collectors are those?

[@damico678]

Hey how do you remove the dipstick from where it goes into the oil pan?

[@TrackPackRT]

It just pulls out after you've unbolted the mounting bracket.

[@stevealoia]

so after you installed the LT headers . Do you have it tuned.

[@TrackPackRT]

Yes. If you don’t your knock sensors are going to be triggered by the sound of your headers and your car will start pulling timing negating the performance gains you’re going for.

[@musclecommunity8946]

did you use the stock bolts???

[@TrackPackRT]

No, the kit supplied new bolts to use.

[@luckywhiskey]

What's the name of the first song?

[@Ijgaming445]

Brother I've been struggling with the passenger side on my 2014. I have all types of shit in the way I cannot get it in and keep banging the fucking starter

[@TrackPackRT]

The passenger side is the difficult one. I know I had 2 different length deep sockets, a regular socket, and 3 different sized extensions to get in tight spots at different angles. One thing that could help is to consider grabbing a 1/4” drive ratchet and socket because they often are smaller and take up less space, which could give you access you can’t fit with a 3/8 drive. Keep going, it takes patience but you’ll get it done!

[@Moour3331]

did you have to lift the motor up ?

[@TrackPackRT]

Nope not at all. Didn't touch the motor mounts. Didn't find them to be in the way at all. One bolt on the passenger side is a little tight, but it didn't take to much effort to get it out anyway. Less effort and time than jacking up the whole motor and removing the motor mounts.

[@luispereda3398]

I have a 2018 scatpack do u think it's the same installed

[@TrackPackRT]

Luis Pereda Yea it’ll be pretty much the same install for a scat pack!