Installing Wi-Fi at the Boat Dock - NanoBeam, Ubiquiti Unifi, Synology DS1621+, AXIS

[@TheGeekPub]

Sometimes you just need a signal at the boat dock! Look for a part two of this video in the future.

[@andrewdoucet4176]

Saw the new office space on the 8 bit guys channel and been loving your vids as well!

[@soulwarrior7721]

BTW being by water i would have used a GFI plug for heavy humidity and possible salt corrosion on your plastic box.. Just a safety for a ya never know moment.

[@TheGeekPub]

The main breaker is already GFCI.

[@jiddro33]

Eagerly waiting for part 2!

[@Stone177]

@@jiddro33 Same.

[@Chris_In_Texas]

Always have a small drain hole in the "waterproof" box, as soon as you get some condensation in there it will collect over time! 😁👍

[@gargaj]

Considering the access point is on the bottom, that will probably function as the drain 😬

[@kylezilke4921]

So now you need an automated sunscreen on the top of the deck with a hammock with a motor to control the rocking and a misting device for summer heat. Beautiful place, can’t wait for the rest.

[@nickyp66]

Great combination. This set-up will last many years!

[@steveowens8779]

Nice job! Loving all the content and the regular release schedule.

[@jlfrodsham]

Synology DS1621+ is very nice! I just wish the Surveillance Station camera licenses were cheaper.

[@GR-qo2tm]

That is some pretty cool gear. Neat installation too. I think a Sonos weatherproof speaker might be possible now that you have Wifi.

[@bfapple]

Love that you’re using Anders’ “8-Bit Guy” background music!

[@Dave-in-MD]

The 8-Bit Guy is his brother

[@bfapple]

@@Dave-in-MD Yes, I am aware. Just stating that I enjoy Mike’s use of the same BGM.

[@HerbyDigitalTV]

Oh wow that's a really cool dock, never seen these kind of docks before, i imagine they're mainly found in the US and not in Europe.

[@derekp6636]

ohh lake house! Congrats Mike!! Chris and I will have to swing by on the boat and cast at ya ;)

[@chrisccb]

That awkward moment when you're wife "just buys a lake house"!

[@TheGeekPub]

It wasn't awkward at all. She wanted one. She found one. We both liked it. She bought it.

[@chrisccb]

@@TheGeekPub just love how you said it so casually. I do that when my wife buys a coffee.

[@mike_x48954]

Absolutely agree about Axis cameras. I have a M31 series on my house, so much better than Dahua stuff I also have. That said, Dahua is still a great option for the price and out performances Reolink at night vision.

[@nabbe63o]

Very neat setup. Hats off

[@eformance]

That pump looks like it could use some love. I see the conduit fitting is not connected to the sharp 90 pull elbow anymore.

[@TheGeekPub]

Hahaha! Yes. My list of things I need to do is never ending. It's actually broken clean off.

[@l00tur]

Ex pool tech, that pump is on its way out, once the housing gets to be that bad the bearings aren’t too far behind it.

[@TheGeekPub]

@@l00tur I have no doubts. Good thing they are simple to replace.

[@withcookies]

Pretty cool. I was thinking about doing Synology w/ Surveillance station w/ VPN at my house, but landed on Blue Iris w/ Stunnel instead. Pros and cons of everything I suppose. You have a very clean set up though. Nicely done.

[@ricklakes9405]

Hello, I have been watching your videos for a while. I also watch your brothers videos the 8 bit guy. The only 2 channels out of 62 I have that are brothers, pretty awesome!! Beautiful place your wife bought.

[@vi0cs]

I use those nano beams to get to some remote buildings at my work. They were way simpler than I was expecting to get to working.

[@flarestorm99]

I love videos like these to geek out to.

[@leart78]

very nice, under surveillance even on parks it's amazing

[@N2tech]

Very cool, you have a huge dock. 😁

[@kevcreations5861]

I laughed at this more than I'd like to admit

[@ronmccranie4661]

You need a boat at that boat dock!

[@TheGeekPub]

I do!

[@xsbykerider]

Nice work!

[@davidfountain6607]

I would recommend spending the extra couple of pennies and buy the proper sealtight connectors for the sealtight hose. That, along with O-rings where you enter the PVC box, will guarantee both a solid mechanical connection and less chance of moisture getting inside the enclosure.

[@TheGeekPub]

What do you mean? I've never seen any special connectors for glue in applications. Certainly there are sealtite to screw in. Can you point me to some pictures?

[@davidfountain6607]

Yes, the threaded style with an O-ring, is what you need to use. PVC cement won't bond properly to the rubber outer jacket of the sealtite hose. You can safely run the wires free air to the receptacle, being it is inside the 12 by 12 enclosure, or put a threaded female coupling on the end of the sealtite connector and put a short piece of PVC conduit into the receptacle's box.

[@TheGeekPub]

Can you link a picture of one of these?

[@dennisneo1608]

I need to get into the same business as Mike.

[@TheGeekPub]

I'm actually unemployed (by choice). :-)

[@dennisneo1608]

@@TheGeekPub Me too. But by lockdown. :) I'm Australian. Ooh man....

[@RobertGilesDaddyBob]

My only suggestion is it could’ve used some drip loops on the cables that are exposed the rain. Love your set up at home, wish I had something like that.

[@TheGeekPub]

I actually did put them in a couple places.

[@nxs_ayt]

Nice video congrats

[@omarr6712]

Axis communication is the best camera brand ,good setup .

[@JamieStuff]

Just had to throw in a Like for Mork!

[@TheGeekPub]

Nanu Nanu!

[@EthanReimann]

Oooo, big bird! 1:31

[@TheGeekPub]

Caaaaacaaaawww!!

[@deadstar962]

Excellent video

[@RandomBitzzz]

I have a love hate relationship with Synology. I have a pair of RS2818RP, and every now and then one of them just freezes. Still responds to ping, but not SSH or via the Web GUI. When they work they're pretty slick, but I don't know if I'll buy another one when the time comes.

[@philsbbs]

great video, thanks for sharing.

[@sanafei8065]

不错，很有想法。

[@Wordsnwood]

Looks more like a river than a lake but still a lovely place for some outdoor life!

[@TheGeekPub]

No. It's on a canal about 100 foot off the main lake.

[@robclaggy8620]

Canal.

[@ReggieCotton]

Someone hasn't spent much time at lakes. ;-)

[@Aleksey_Konovalov]

SUPER!

[@NickBouwhuis]

Ooh big bird!

[@RyanSmith-hi2nv]

I think I've heard that background music somewhere before.... ;)

[@squarrl]

You can configure the switch to do the passive 24V you just have to select it as the port option.

[@TheGeekPub]

Not on the US-8-60w.

[@squarrl]

@@TheGeekPub I stand corrected, I must have been using US-8-150.

[@organiccold]

Nice job.

[@user-zr7kz4vs7c]

Is there a part two of this video ? Thanks

[@mmanish7331]

get David also , you both can use little tan :) .... on the serious note, good video... keep making them

[@firebird8600]

Neat

[@wipo86]

genial te sigo desde hace tiempo saludos desde cuba

[@steve_main]

10:01 Look at that beautiful fake typing!! Its silver screen worthy!! Love the install. What model of Axis did you choose and why. Also I love that the NVR is built into the Synology box I had no clue and I have been looking for a NVR that didn't cost an arm and a leg or running software on Windows. Synology will make this a breeze and I can also run my Plex server off this and retire my Apple Mini! What settings do you normally use for your cameras like record for 7 days then overwrite or do you give it 10 GB then overwrite once that space is used?

[@TheGeekPub]

All the info and links are in the description below the video.

[@janisvanniekerk]

Is the ISP here also Frontier?

[@PiereWoehl]

The UniFi Switch supports passive 24v it needs to be enabled on the port from the UniFi Controller

[@TheGeekPub]

I don't believe that's the case. But I'd be thrilled if you could prove me wrong!!!

[@PiereWoehl]

@@TheGeekPub Oh I somehow mixed something up here, this switch does not, I have my modem powered through passive 24v but I forgot it uses a brick in the back, it was the aircube I have which I can set to provide 24v passive, there was my mistake

[@stremblay1026]

Ubiquiti actually makes an 802.1af to passive 24v POE adapter which would have allowed you to get rid of that second POE brick: part # INS‑3AF‑I‑G

[@TheGeekPub]

Hey that's pretty neat!

[@b3ans4eva]

It’s a LinusTechTips video, but with tech that’s within a normal persons reach.

[@Flamenmagic]

Part 2 soon mike??????

[@theanalogkid7]

Just out of curiosity, with that being outdoor (even in the box), wouldn't a GFCI been a better option than a standard outlet? I'm no electrician, just someone who's learning stuff as I go so if I'm totally off base, my bad!

[@TheGeekPub]

It has GCFI at the breaker already.

[@tobyminerBTC]

@@TheGeekPub This is because most jurisdictions require the entire dock to be under GFCI. It is much easier to just have breaker be the GFCI rather than the outlets. Great work on this project! Loved it!

[@theanalogkid7]

@@TheGeekPub Ah so if it's at the breaker it's not needed on the outlet! Got ya! Thanks for helping me learn something sort of off-topic from the main point of the video! :D

[@TheBigBigBlues]

Can’t stop saying “double decker dock”

[@TheGeekPub]

But you can stop saying "Nanoo Nanoo?" :-)

[@organiccold]

Double Decker is a chocolate here in the UK haha

[@ericsmalling]

Mike can now run containers down there and call it a double decker docker dock ;)

[@TheGeekPub]

Love it!

[@hamzakhireche4690]

How many cameras can you turn on like this?

[@dhpbear2]

6:10 - I would think those dock lights are switched on and off from the house. Wouln't this create a problem?

[@TheGeekPub]

There is a sub panel for the dock.

[@MichaelHumbles]

Hi that box is great. Is there not a need for ventilation or cooling? Also, if it could fit would the AP be better inside (even though outdoor rated) the box for added protection and the minimal WiFi coverage needed? Thank you for the great video.

[@smnhdy]

Was there a compelling reason to go for the NanoBeam vs laying an ethernet cable down to the dock?

[@TheGeekPub]

Cost. Busting concrete, 100+ year old tree roots, etc.

[@jrmbtr]

@@TheGeekPub Would the mesh products have worked over the distance?

[@smnhdy]

@@TheGeekPub fair enough! I guess power line thereby was never a though! Lol

[@camperxlz]

Curious why you choose Axis cameras over Ubiquiti since you've already got the Ubiquiti infrastructure.

[@TheGeekPub]

Ubiquiti cams only work with ubiquiti. You're locked in. And they're not near as good as AXIS either. UI cams are a worst of both worlds choice.

[@skipdog77]

Great job on this. Do you have any water concerns with the UBNT AP mounted on the bottom of the case?

[@TheGeekPub]

Unifi is outdoor weather rated.

[@taoli5497]

👍

[@pauwerful2161]

So the nanobeam beams it's internet to the dock nanobeam from the modem inside the house?

[@ryanamberger]

If youre not needing anything complex and just want a wireless ethernet cable basically, just set them up in bridge mode, dhcp enabled and plug the AP into your router or switch. If you use the AC Gen2 like he did, you can take advantage of the 2nd port on the station radio for POE out to a 24v passive POE wifi access point. May need to add the 2nd port to Bridge0 so it pulls dhcp from same pool as your radios. Lots of cool stuff you can do with nanobeams if you want to take the time to mess around with them. For example, setting the station radio to router mode and have it act as a router. Has NAT, port forwarding, etc.

[@13Cubed]

Very nice! Do you edit with Premiere Pro on PC or do you use Final Cut Pro on a Mac? Just curious.

[@TheGeekPub]

Final Cut on the Mac

[@erichurst2496]

Since you have power on the dock, did you try powerline ethernet adapters?

[@TheGeekPub]

No. Because they're not on the same panel or even meter.

[@tech_mad_lad]

When is part 2 coming :)

[@TheGeekPub]

Probably never. :-(

[@maxrunge7599]

I would have just used 2 UAP-AC-M's for a bridge and your wifi. You will loose a lot of wifi range having your ap pointed at the ground.

[@TheGeekPub]

Seems to be working fine for me.

[@nosferadu]

That Axis camera may be good, but at $400 it's not just expensive, it's kind of nuts.

[@TheGeekPub]

Well, they didn't used to be $400. They used to be $250, pre COVID.

[@charlesgi5058]

Greetings! Fun video. Was nanobeam your first choice or did you consider fiber as well?

[@TheGeekPub]

Tearing up the yard and busting out concrete was not something I felt compelled to do. :-)

[@charlesgi5058]

@@TheGeekPub Fair enough. You video has lead me to look at the NBE-M516. I have a small building I have been trying to bring network over to from the main unit but even string fiber up for just ~30 feet seems like too much work. I see these are quite cheap. I just wonder if 100mb variant will be enough to carry 2-3 1080p security cameras.

[@dizzy49]

What's a good alternative to Surveillance Station if you have a NAS, but not Synology? I have 150TB NAS running Windows.

[@simon785]

Blueiris

[@JanVokas]

How good/poor is signal reception on top of the deck? I mean - from the UAP point of view (and the way how you've mounted it) you are "behind" it.

[@TheGeekPub]

Seems to work fine.

[@Stone177]

What Z wave hub would you use?

[@TheGeekPub]

I use the Hubitat. They're awesome!

[@MrConradF]

What level of RAID are you using on the Synology?

[@marekjakimowicz]

I use Synology Hybrid RAID (SHR). It is more flexible than other types.

[@isaacbenjamin389]

Wouldn’t it be easier to just run a outdoor rated Ethernet cable to the dock and install a access point?

[@TheGeekPub]

I guess if you think busting concrete and 100+ year old tree roots is easier.

[@atomictransfusion]

3:29 doesn't ubiquiti sell an 802.3 to passive poe adapter

[@TheGeekPub]

They do. And my switch is PoE too, but these bridges don't support regular PoE.

[@atomictransfusion]

@TheGeekPub but couldn't you use the adapter between the switch and the bridge so the 802.3 poe would be adapted to passive poe?

[@TheGeekPub]

I suppose you could, but it would add $40 to the project for no real benefit other than saving a 110v plug.

[@atomictransfusion]

@TheGeekPub i just rewatched the video and realized you have more outlets at the dock so there isn't really a point in saving a plug in that case

[@digitalranger4259]

Have to ask.... Why not run ethernet or fiber to the dock instead of the NanoBeams? They are cool, for sure, but it's another thing to break.

[@TheGeekPub]

Cost. Digging up the yard, 100+ year old tree roots, and concrete is non-starter.

[@kieran.stafford]

Sweet Jesus, the entire place is landscaped and groomed to within an inch of it's life. I'll bet it was such a beautiful place before all the people moved in.

[@ddssrr1614]

My dream is to have 300mb internet one day.. LOL

[@sandmanxo]

My only issue with Axis is their support was poor. We had several of their cameras at my old job and they refused to update their wireless cameras to update it to wpa2 even though it was a year or 2 old at the time. I ended up having to hard wire them as a result and I still think of that every time I see them. Solid cameras as they ran for 5+ years but there is nothing i hate more than planned obsolescence.

[@glorfification]

Very nice area! After all the tv shows I've seen (like Burn Notice), I would be worried that all the neighbors might be drug dealers. Or worse, senators!

[@Cristian.S]

Using a 10km+ nanobeam for a few dozen meters distance... wow. A powerline adapter woulde've been soo much cheaper.

[@TheGeekPub]

Nope. The dock is on a different meter and panel.

[@Cristian.S]

@@TheGeekPub Ah, then yes, it wouldn't work.

[@Cristian.S]

@@TheGeekPub Myself, I use the UAP-AC-M for 60m sector coverage and it works flawlessly as an AP. The speeds are over 50mbps on wifi at @45m. At ~70m is struggling. With stock antennas.

[@BDBD16]

NANO NANO!

[@Dukefazon]

10:01 - too obvious you are just imitating typing :D

[@TheGeekPub]

It was supposed to be a joke.

[@segaboy9894]

Did your brother supply the background music? 🤣

[@TheGeekPub]

Nope. But Anders Enger Jensen did.

[@robclaggy8620]

David doesn't make his music.

[@joejoe6949]

Code valuation did not use connector on the liquid tight into the box.

[@robclaggy8620]

You don't use connectors on glue ups bud.

[@hapkidokid1]

if you have a POE switch. What is the point to the POE injector, Your just adding another point of failure

[@TheGeekPub]

Because the Nanobeam requires passive PoE, not active. Different protocol. Different voltage.

[@justinbrooks9566]

you did this nice waterproof box, and then put an indoor AP outside .................

[@TheGeekPub]

That's an outdoor AP my friend.

[@bobnick9892]

You have a much nicer home then your goofy brother....

[@X-OR_]

@Scott Luther I agree

[@tylertuthill5121]

My god you're rich. You must live a glorious life.

[@TheGeekPub]

Not even close to rich.

[@RandomBitzzz]

I thought that at first, then figured he must've made the right moves at the right times. I know a guy that doesn't make much $$$ at all (he's a custodian), but manages to own 3 properties by positioning himself correctly.

[@TheGeekPub]

We VBRO the property. It pays for itself.

[@kimpearson5465]

I bet while Geek is out making videos you are sitting at home on your playstation. Opportunity is dressed in overalls and looks like work Tyler.

[@mvl71]

@@TheGeekPub What does VBRO mean? (Dutchie here)

[@Ancient_West]

Your wife bought it? Why wouldn't you say "we bought a house?"

[@TheGeekPub]

When your wife sews a dress do you say "We sew a dress?" :-)

[@Ancient_West]

@@TheGeekPub My wife doesn't need my input to sew a dress, but it's a pretty big deal if she buys a house without me involved.

[@TheGeekPub]

Well, she has a job and makes her own money. Yes of course, she talked to me before she went shopping. Yes. Of course I looked at it and the numbers before signing. But SHE found it. She bought. She is remodeling it. She is renting it on VRBO. It's her project.

[@TheDarkHour684]

How dare you work your butt off night and day and have so much stuff! Shame on you! :-D

[@wojciechklaus]

Sorry, but you have used indoor access point. Either put it inside that weather proof box or get Ubiquity Flex series, which are designed to be used outside

[@wojciechklaus]

Other than that great job. Did you align antennas via their config?

[@TheGeekPub]

Nope. The Unifi is outdoor weather rated.

[@jackjohnson5426]

@Wojciech Klaus You speak very authoritatively about this. But you are incorrect. The Unifi line is all wet rated.

[@vitonildo]

Why do americans have so much obsession for security cameras? Is housebreaking that common in USA?

[@dizzy49]

Three times in the 8 years here we had a rash of car thefts on our street. My wife's car was broken into all 3 times and mine twice. I also had tools and a window A/C unit stolen from my garage (surrounded by a 6' privacy fence). Then our neighbor started tormenting our dogs so I needed proof for the police. We also live right next to a park and when there are events there are thousands of people who walk by our house. I've had our fence, yard, landscaping and side of the house vandalized.

[@sundjinnkari]

I have to strongly disagree with the choice of Axis cameras. I work directly with camera installs for work as a Deployment Support Agent, and prior to that I was supporting a large retailer who had nearly exclusively Axis products as their security system. TBF, they crash a lot, their video quality is terrible, and their reparability is poor. If I were to suggest a different product, I would choose either Hanwa / Techwin cameras over Axis. Personally though, I would probably go for more consumer sided Wyze cameras as they are cheaper, efficient, and some models are even battery powered with wifi. Take that suggestion as you wish though.

[@TheGeekPub]

Yeah. We definitely don't agree there. Been doing retail IT for 30+ years. ;-)

[@robclaggy8620]

Hanwha is grade A Chinesium. That's a good grade for Chinesium. But I don't think it's better than axis.

[@mike_x48954]

Wyze, Reolink, Swann, Lorex and all the other Costco stuff is just good at being cheap. Nothing good about the actual quality of the video. Dahua, Hikvision, Uniview and Hanwha are great for mid range cameras and certainly offer cameras with better specifications than Axis for their lower price. Ultimate all-round quality still comes down to Axis and Avigilon, made with fa better attention to detail and just work.