Heart Health: Fat Matters

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Ben Bikman

Ben Bikman

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@meatdog
@meatdog 7 ай бұрын
In 1999 my cardiologist told me emphatically that my vegan diet CAUSED my heart attack I had in front of him during a stress test . He was the smartest cardiologist I ever knew, he stopped my early death and made me stop being a "stupid vegan" and return to eating meat and fish. He was way ahead of his time in this regard.
@jandjhirst
@jandjhirst 7 ай бұрын
Were you still eating fried food and vegetable oils?
@andredaedone5
@andredaedone5 7 ай бұрын
Veganism is a disease.
@Chuckruu
@Chuckruu 4 ай бұрын
Were you eating loads of processed carbs, seed oils and sugar as a vegan?
@zzc8505
@zzc8505 2 ай бұрын
@Chuckruu seed oils? Whatever fat you eat on vegan diet is going to be some processed plant oil, which is never good. Despite some qualifications for avocado oil, it’s still far inferior to animal fat. You’ve listened to this vid and apparently it went over your head if you have to pose such a meaningless question. You need quality healthy animal fat (and animal protein) for heart health, not any “ plant” oils.
@zzc8505
@zzc8505 2 ай бұрын
@jandjhirst what kind of question is that? Veggie oils? What other oils will you eat on a vegan diet which excludes all and any animal products? Any oil on a vegan diet is going to be done version of veggie oil. Even the olive oil and avocado oil are still technically “veggie” oils, most highly processed, and even some supposedly “organic cold processed whatever” is still inferior to animal fat and insufficient for heart health. And btw - a piece of meat fried in animal fat or some eggs fried in butter/animal fat are “fried” foods, but are much more healthful than any “organic olive oil/avocado/coconut oil” vegan g@rbage.
@MrBluebirdOnMyShoulder
@MrBluebirdOnMyShoulder 7 ай бұрын
Medical students with Dr Bikman as a professor are extremely fortunate. He is the best at explaining things and knows more about metabolism than probably anyone on the planet. To me, he represents hope for the future of medicine.
@beaubolinger1521
@beaubolinger1521 7 ай бұрын
Totally agree from Australia 🥩🥚🥑🍤🦘🦌
@sharonlasper8999
@sharonlasper8999 7 ай бұрын
Agreed
@sanketchavan9456
@sanketchavan9456 7 ай бұрын
True
@GoogleAccount-bk4sv
@GoogleAccount-bk4sv 7 ай бұрын
I watched this episode with a smile on my face while eating fresh cut steak, seared in real butter and seasoned with fine keltic salt. (I'm a carnivore btw,) Thank you again Ben 👌🏻
@ArtLoverScotland
@ArtLoverScotland 7 ай бұрын
Yep good on you! I am about half hour from cooking my ribeye then loading it with pure butter and pure mineral salt.
@jameschesterton
@jameschesterton 7 ай бұрын
Ben is so clear and articulate, just fabulous, and his book 'Why we get sick' is phenomenal.
@doddsalfa
@doddsalfa 7 ай бұрын
Still has been debunked numerous times
@jameschesterton
@jameschesterton 7 ай бұрын
@@doddsalfa Can you point me to that please, I am interested.
@doddsalfa
@doddsalfa 7 ай бұрын
@@jameschesterton been debunked by Lane Norton phd and Chris MacAskill earth scientist in Plant Chomper for instance
@carrie2550
@carrie2550 7 ай бұрын
@@doddsalfa I think you should follow up this statement with the actual proof.
@doddsalfa
@doddsalfa 7 ай бұрын
@@carrie2550 if you are not in a cult you should follow this up with a better education
@michaeldeangelis1225
@michaeldeangelis1225 7 ай бұрын
I went HFLC a year ago and feel so much better. Dr. Bikman is a leader in health and research.
@craigmchenry1477
@craigmchenry1477 7 ай бұрын
Well done sir!!! 20 years in commercial pharma speaking with science-types and you best them all in your clear discussions...thank you!
@garnettasmith1717
@garnettasmith1717 7 ай бұрын
Avoid eating over-processed stuff from Bags, Boxes, & Barcodes! Love these talks so much!
@billharmon2673
@billharmon2673 7 ай бұрын
Carnivore for 14 months, haven't felt this good since my 30's and my panels are now excellent. There are no "essential" carbs.
@thomassaddul6070
@thomassaddul6070 7 ай бұрын
Thanks to all!
@aeducator1
@aeducator1 5 ай бұрын
I love how the concrete details cement the understanding. I also love how the information is characterized as "known" and "hypothesized."
@eric1richards
@eric1richards 7 ай бұрын
I have saved this video to reference for every conversation I have with my aging parents. Their denialism of the truth is so scary.
@Controls_Tech_86
@Controls_Tech_86 7 ай бұрын
Between listening to Dr. Ben Bikman, Dr. Anthony Chaffee, Dr. Shawn Baker, and Dr. Ken Berry I have switched to a carnivore diet and feeling better than ever. I also do Mike Mentzer consolation workout routine once a week to stay strong for health span, because what's the point in increasing life span if you can't enjoy it up into that point.
@lindabirmingham603
@lindabirmingham603 4 ай бұрын
Going to check out Mike Mentzer, thanks!
@noreenmary3300
@noreenmary3300 7 ай бұрын
I’ve just finished reading Dr Bikman’s book ‘Why we get Sick’. Excellent book! Recommended reading. One of those books that you can read again and again!
@paulblijkers1549
@paulblijkers1549 7 ай бұрын
Yes, I like Dr Bikman's book too ("Why we get sick"). But he also describes atherosclerosis in Part 1 Chapter 2...is he speculating too...?
@pattishanks3788
@pattishanks3788 7 ай бұрын
As always, a brilliant and informative presentation. Thank you Dr. Bikman.
@JMK-vo8pv
@JMK-vo8pv 7 ай бұрын
To this very day, the great majority of American primary care doctors and cardiologists, under the spell of the AHA, STILL warn against eating too much saturated fat. Wouldn't you think that our medical professionals would keep up with the latest developments in the world of metabolic and cardiovascular disease? It is therefore imperative that we patients follow "critical thinking" scientists like Dr. Ben Bikman, et al, to improve our health and prolong our lives!
@lonmccarley5072
@lonmccarley5072 7 ай бұрын
No
@zerocarbdoc
@zerocarbdoc 7 ай бұрын
Love it! And so glad the panel had such an integral part in the discussion.....
@jacquietarr7280
@jacquietarr7280 7 ай бұрын
He is the Prof. 😊
@rohitrathi4552
@rohitrathi4552 2 ай бұрын
I can’t believe how patiently he explains all this.
@pennyblackwell4941
@pennyblackwell4941 7 ай бұрын
If you look up the side effects of eating just rabbit (it has no fat!) they call it Protein poisoning. Protein poisoning is when the body takes in too much protein with not enough fat and carbohydrates for a long period of time. Other names for this are “rabbit starvation” or “mal de caribou.” These terms came about to describe only consuming very lean proteins, such as rabbit, without consuming other nutrients. We need Fat!
@yoso585
@yoso585 7 ай бұрын
Don’t need much fat, carbohydrate, or fat. Won’t live for long on just one them either. Most may do well zero carbs. But certainly not all.
@zman3463
@zman3463 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! I love hearing your thoughts and discoveries!❤
@lorihanby6733
@lorihanby6733 Ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Thank you Dr Bikman for realizing you need to break this down to help us understand. At 66 it started to go over my head then Bam! You brought it down and connected it so it made sense to me. Sure wish they’d put you in charge of the FDA to work on cleaning up the foods on American grocery store shelves.
@paulblijkers1549
@paulblijkers1549 7 ай бұрын
Another great video, thank you! A bit confused though… In a study (Gertz et al 1991), the researchers discovered that the composition of “plaques” was as follows: fibrous tissue (87 ± 8%), calcific deposits (7 ± 6%), pultaceous debris (5 ± 4%) and foam cells (1 ± 1%). So, surprisingly, foam cells only a very small component of the atherosclerosis plaque. Also no mention of Lp(a)! Are we sure LDL found in foam cells isLDL or is it also Lp(a)? Another study (Rath et al 1989) mentioned: “High serum Lp(a) also led to a significant increase of apo B In the arterial wall. This Initial study showed that Lp(a) accumulates in the arterial wall, partly in the form of lipoprotein-like particles, therefore contributing to plaque formation and coronary heart disease.” What are your thoughts about this? (references from Malcom Kendrick's book “The clot thickens”)
@irenekuznet6300
@irenekuznet6300 7 ай бұрын
I would love him to do a video on the Randle cycle.
@godloveskaren
@godloveskaren 2 ай бұрын
He has
@sunrisetacticalgear2676
@sunrisetacticalgear2676 7 ай бұрын
I’m still waiting to hear the root cause of the initial insult to the artery wall. You mention inflammation, which if acute is a natural response to an injury. I appreciate the information you’re sharing with the public. Thanks
@Petunia-fl9lu
@Petunia-fl9lu 7 ай бұрын
read 'the clot thickens'
@sunrisetacticalgear2676
@sunrisetacticalgear2676 7 ай бұрын
@@Petunia-fl9lu thank you!
@curlyq9901
@curlyq9901 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@benbikman
@benbikman 3 ай бұрын
That is very kind of you. I do not ever expect it, but it is noticed and appreciated very much. Thank you.
@aeducator1
@aeducator1 5 ай бұрын
So important to highlight what we don't know. That is where true understanding starts.
@lisaschmidt1625
@lisaschmidt1625 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge in such an interesting and concise manner. Your work is changing the way we understand metabolic health.
@michaelhimes8778
@michaelhimes8778 7 ай бұрын
This is really tough for the layman because there are brave doctors willing to buck the system and admit that the fat centric model of CVD is not accurate, yet all the medical licensing organizations still cling to it. So it gives the one the feeling that you are experimenting with fringe theories by not going by the established “guidelines.”
@dereckchildres9601
@dereckchildres9601 7 ай бұрын
Great class . Thanks Ben
@lisacreason
@lisacreason 6 ай бұрын
Excellent lesson. I look forward to reading the studies linked.
@CarnivoreScott
@CarnivoreScott 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this veritable treasure trove of information! Someday, the processed grains industry, read as cereals, will be held accountable for the decades of lying and disease they caused.
@sashak441
@sashak441 7 ай бұрын
how about a big fat lawsuit against them!
@cassieoz1702
@cassieoz1702 7 ай бұрын
Not gonna happen. Way too much complicity from USDA, FDA, AHA etcetera. They haven't accepted any responsibility for all the folks they killed by actively pushing hydrogenated margarines for years.
@EvgeniiaDolinenko
@EvgeniiaDolinenko 7 ай бұрын
Dejar dr Ben, ❤ I hope you can do a video about food sensitivities and insulin resistance. How they are connected.
@jeffrey4577
@jeffrey4577 7 ай бұрын
Outstanding explanation of truth.
@rositasultana3958
@rositasultana3958 7 ай бұрын
Incredible studies that come out after 60years ! Why have they been concealed?
@onlinemarketerpro
@onlinemarketerpro 7 ай бұрын
Follow rhe money, the purpose of some studies is to create a pill to give to peple.
@annewimsey6952
@annewimsey6952 7 ай бұрын
When Dr. ATKINS, about 50 years ago now, wrote his ground-breaking books the Sugar Industry used Congress to grill him ( I have the transcripts still!) with an eye to lifting his medical license, shameful! Of course they failed as he used Science!!!!! TheSugar I dustry have only grown in power since then, and allied with Big Pharma.
@steshaw6510
@steshaw6510 6 ай бұрын
One of those studies was not published because the lead scientist didn't like the conclusions. Sigh.
@johnsavage4786
@johnsavage4786 7 ай бұрын
Read the Clot Thickens by Dr Malcolm Kendrick
@ausmiku
@ausmiku 7 ай бұрын
But Omega 6 and Omega 3 fats are the only essential fats which we need to consume, we cannot make them. We do not require mono or saturated fats at all in out diet, but out metabolism does require Omega 6 and Omega 3 fats. It's not the polyunsaturated fats which are the problem, it's the industrial processing of them. They become technically rancid (spoiled), and this causes metabolic damage.
@godloveskaren
@godloveskaren 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for presenting this...Wow!!!
@simonwiltshire7089
@simonwiltshire7089 7 ай бұрын
Outstanding as always. Thank you :)
@annapotter83
@annapotter83 7 ай бұрын
Excellent classroom as usual. Could you do a topic about alpha linoleic acid and the best way to bring it as it is a essential w3 fatty acid. In France we recommand to take canola oil ! Maybe it is not the best idea as it is also full of linoleic acid
@mr8966
@mr8966 7 ай бұрын
Brilliant conversarion and information. Thank-you so much.
@mowen0yuriko
@mowen0yuriko 7 ай бұрын
Excellent, clear and concise summary of the relevant facts about fat and its association with heart health
@mckennasmith1589
@mckennasmith1589 3 ай бұрын
So what happens if you eat saturated fat AND omega 6? Would you potentially cause worse progression of atherosclerosis due to more LDL that is oxidized? I can see how saturated fat alone isn’t a contributor to atherosclerosis, but with the combination of saturated fat and omega 6 worsen atherosclerosis because saturated fat can increase amount of LDL in the bloodstream?
@ProductiveHealthPH
@ProductiveHealthPH 7 ай бұрын
I wish I could be Student of Prof. Dr. Benjamin Bikman
@jobrown8146
@jobrown8146 7 ай бұрын
We are ...
@ProductiveHealthPH
@ProductiveHealthPH 7 ай бұрын
@@jobrown8146 yeah, definitely. I mean in his institute.
@zzc8505
@zzc8505 2 ай бұрын
Whenever dr. Bikman says “speaks with false authority” I can’t help chuckling
@jobrown8146
@jobrown8146 7 ай бұрын
👍👍👍 Just had to gives this more than one thumbs up.
@michaelayalaathotmai
@michaelayalaathotmai 7 ай бұрын
Is there any news on plant fats containing phytosterols mimicking animal cholesterol causing lesions?
@stevenmcc6052
@stevenmcc6052 7 ай бұрын
Main issues seem to be elevated glucose causing damage to glycocalix. Also glycating ldl making pattern B. Small ldl can get in where u have damaged glycocalix. Also oxidising omega 6. Akso fructose aging good tissue 7x faster than glucose.
@mystrength5640
@mystrength5640 7 ай бұрын
@@stevenmcc6052 Thank you, Difficult to hear and realise that Fructose from Fruit can do so damage! 😟
@orchidmuse
@orchidmuse 5 ай бұрын
In European studies they say not linoleic acid, but Arachidonic acid causes inflammation, if too much in our food. Do you think it's possible? Thank you 🙏
@dr.julia-heyakarcic8862
@dr.julia-heyakarcic8862 7 ай бұрын
Dr. Bikman please comment on a well-exercised healthy adult who produces low or no ketonuria at a 24 hour fast and who also has a fasting insulin of 5 or less.
@Michael-pn2ye
@Michael-pn2ye 7 ай бұрын
Love your information SIR keep up your great work!!!!!!
@livincincy4498
@livincincy4498 7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@fivefathomapple
@fivefathomapple 7 ай бұрын
Are there any healthy Linoleic acids? I thought eggs were healthy, but they are high in linoleic acid.
@maureengarry
@maureengarry 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining this, Dr. B!
@KetoneDean
@KetoneDean 7 ай бұрын
Dr Ben Bikman thank you for everything you do for me and this community. Carnivore for life 💪🏼
@naseebahkhalil4204
@naseebahkhalil4204 7 ай бұрын
How do you respond to the claims that saturated fats decrease cell membrane fluidity and make it rigid or stiff ? Many thanks
@gerrywaneck377
@gerrywaneck377 7 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation. Thanks.
@TomSmith-cv8hk
@TomSmith-cv8hk 7 ай бұрын
Where should we get our essential linoleic acid and how much of it ?
@AliceFarmer-bg4dw
@AliceFarmer-bg4dw 7 ай бұрын
Dr Bikman great lesson. Can you cover the “Randle Cycle”?
@J-wd3kh
@J-wd3kh 7 ай бұрын
Has the mechanistic data on uptake of oxidised LDL by macrophages been verified in mice (in vivo) as well?
@jandjhirst
@jandjhirst 7 ай бұрын
I've eliminated all processed foods from my regular diet, and feel great. But it's quite obvious that the animals today have a much higher fat content than the animals a few decades ago, which has to be a contributor to the increase in fat. Obviously frying food in oil is the worst, but what is the consequences of modern animal agriculture and higher fat ratios?
@sharieddinger9715
@sharieddinger9715 7 ай бұрын
Brilliantly explained! 👍🏻
@aeducator1
@aeducator1 5 ай бұрын
We always think that there is tons of data to support one point or another. The reality is that there are often just a handful of good studies, or in this case, only 2.
@willemvanriet7160
@willemvanriet7160 7 ай бұрын
Wow thank you So clearly explained
@jobrown8146
@jobrown8146 7 ай бұрын
Just had an "aha moment". Now I understand *why* some people are saying that it is the seed oils. The pieces of the puzzle (from what I've been listening to over the last 2.5 years) are starting to make a lot of sense.
@janetmcburney4582
@janetmcburney4582 7 ай бұрын
Awesome description of the process.. is there a test to see how much oxidized ldl you have in your system?
@paulblijkers1549
@paulblijkers1549 7 ай бұрын
LDL ox (quite expensive, I think...)
@andrewrivera4029
@andrewrivera4029 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Dr. Bikman! Has the jury reached its verdict!?!?!?
@RLeeErmy
@RLeeErmy 4 ай бұрын
A little disappointed Ben...... No dog bark at the end 😅! Thanks for another awesome video!
@lizjones184
@lizjones184 7 ай бұрын
Whats the 90 day plan to reduce insulin resistance?
@oldbiker9739
@oldbiker9739 7 ай бұрын
Insulin Spikes Artery-Clogging Plaque: NEW Study kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYHNXpVngLSMh6M
@inspirestrengthandwellness
@inspirestrengthandwellness 7 ай бұрын
Dr Malcolm Kendrick has put forward his thrombogenic hypothesis for causing atherosclerosis. It seems like you're suggesting people such as him are speaking from a false sense of authority? I'm currently of the opinion that his is the best model, is this incorrect? Or are you speaking of other "authorities"?
@paulblijkers1549
@paulblijkers1549 7 ай бұрын
There are other "experts" who are thinking like Dr Kendrick. He describes atherosclerosis in a way that makes sense to me.
@laurelthompson6167
@laurelthompson6167 7 ай бұрын
where do these oxidized LDL molecules come from?
@danacamp5437
@danacamp5437 7 ай бұрын
Inflammation
@hektor6766
@hektor6766 7 ай бұрын
LDL produced in the body in which the apolipoproteins are attacked by Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS) introduced by an abundance of oxygen-rich carbohydrates.
@NansGlobalKitchen
@NansGlobalKitchen 7 ай бұрын
Dr Bikman, I have high blood sugar and BP can you please tell me why my BS is high i watch everything I eat which are low carb under 50 grams of carbs per day I do intermittent i eat no sugar never had a sweet tooth. Intermittent fasting 18/6 per day but I cannot lose the weight its only around my tummy! I am thanking that maybe its my thyroids because I have no gallbladder or uterus due to a complete hysterectomy. My doctor only wants to put me on meds! Please help I even follow that new scientists who talk about eating salads, and veggies first then proteins and carbs last❤
@Habanero777
@Habanero777 7 ай бұрын
Wake up, call. You are doing 50g of carbs a day. That is your sugar. Do you not understand the metabolic process?😮 All carbohydrates turned right into sugar glucose. No, Bueno dump your carbs.
@Habanero777
@Habanero777 7 ай бұрын
Please listen to Doctor ovadia and also Doctor cywes. Also watch Doctor kenberry's videos. Because you're just not seeing the light and it's right in your face. You are eating carbohydrates. You cannot eat carbohydrates.
@benbikman
@benbikman 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Sorry that you are struggling. You may want to consider joining our community to get a little more support and some ideas from our coaching team and from other like-minded people working on their metabolic health. You can do a 10-day trial at no cost: www.insuliniq.com/insulin-iq-community-membership-signup
@Momtocam1997
@Momtocam1997 7 ай бұрын
A deficiency of iodine and selenium can cause issues..that correlate with thyroid problems. Also carbs could be decreased lower..I do 20 or under grams per day. Until I cut out all grains, my weight loss stalled. I make cloud bread now..very simple..using eggs and cream cheese.
@quattr03
@quattr03 7 ай бұрын
Just share my own experience...I have about the same or a bit lesser carbs/daily like you. I do Zone 2 running (very easy, slow running, some people or most walk by me) at least 3-4 times/week, 40 min each. I also walk after meals for 1/2 hr. Every night before bed I meditate about 10 minutes. My BP was 130+/80 now every am is around 117/68 most times. The meditation for me helps a lot for BP. Went to see my nutritionist, even though I've gained 3 lbs since I've started the new meals plan, my body mass fat is decreasing (as I've gained more muscles) and BMI is still the same 21.3. If you can't do Zone 2, please try meditation before bed.
@carlloeber
@carlloeber 7 ай бұрын
Fantastic ..
@dashulze
@dashulze 7 ай бұрын
Ancient human diets would have included nuts, poultry,, and pork which have significant amounts of Omega-6 Linoleic acid. It may be that consumption of Omega-6 has increased and the Omega-6 found in processed foods has been oxidized through industrial processing.
@JasonBuckman
@JasonBuckman 7 ай бұрын
Whole foods, real food.
@prunelle19
@prunelle19 7 ай бұрын
Lard has less than 9% of Omega 6. This is less than olive oil. Animal sourced Omega 6 is not oxydized and can be used for energy
@declanmcardle
@declanmcardle 7 ай бұрын
Hmm...where to get the large streaky bacon the size of Einstein's head in the background? 🙂
@andredaedone5
@andredaedone5 7 ай бұрын
I am a Lion so I only eat fatty beef and fatty lamb. Water and salt. I have no fear of getting any issue with my way of eating because it is the healthiest way.to.eat.
@J-rex980
@J-rex980 7 ай бұрын
Im munching on a stick of kerrygold butter.
@keithcitizen4855
@keithcitizen4855 7 ай бұрын
From advice from my doctor and indicative of blood tests I wont be gorging on cheese again
@boonkailee8237
@boonkailee8237 7 ай бұрын
Why use omega6??? Nobody dies due to ncolorectal cancer due to too much saturated fat??
@Fairfield106
@Fairfield106 12 күн бұрын
The best dietary video I ever watched . Dr Gilman is a treasure for the real world of dietetic. learning
@TheTabel44
@TheTabel44 7 ай бұрын
Shockingly info...about omega 6 who's causing almost any disease!
@richpalmer9886
@richpalmer9886 7 ай бұрын
Bacon is high in linoleic acid. Yet, it is saturated. Is there something in the structure of it or something?
@JasonBuckman
@JasonBuckman 7 ай бұрын
Bacon fat is actually mostly unsaturated. It's the stearic acid and palmitic acid that are saturated. Oleic acid, the most predominant fat in pork, is unsaturated, and so is the linoleic acid.
@williammorgan7769
@williammorgan7769 7 ай бұрын
Bacon has omega 6 AND saturated fat. The omega 6 in it isn’t saturated.
@JasonBuckman
@JasonBuckman 7 ай бұрын
@@williammorgan7769 It's actually mostly oleic, monounsaturated.
@treich1234
@treich1234 7 ай бұрын
Bear in mind there is no such thing as an essential saturated fatty acid
@garytango
@garytango 7 ай бұрын
👍
@dombarton2483
@dombarton2483 7 ай бұрын
Lesson is to all is, simply stop eating all carbs, and seed based oils. Carnivore all the way!
@nadernayo
@nadernayo 7 ай бұрын
👏👏
@janetmcburney4582
@janetmcburney4582 7 ай бұрын
Funny thing is most information point to saturated fat as causation for oxidized cholesterol. No mention of omega 6 and polyunsaturated fats.
@hektor6766
@hektor6766 7 ай бұрын
Study your basic chemistry. Saturated fat has no double bonds for oxygen species to attack. Polyunsaturated fats such as linoleic acid (Omega-6) have many double bonds susceptible to peroxygenation. The information you've been getting makes no sense.
@williammorgan7769
@williammorgan7769 7 ай бұрын
Saturated fat isn’t the problem. It’s the least likely fat to oxidize.
@janetmcburney4582
@janetmcburney4582 7 ай бұрын
I agree that saturated fat is not the cause but polyunsaturated is, but if you Google oxidated cholesterol it points the finger at saturated fat.
@t.p.7373
@t.p.7373 7 ай бұрын
Thank you
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