We Can FINALLY do a TRUE No Evidence Challenge - Phasmophobia New Update

[@Insym]

I learned so many new things in this video! I really hope you enjoy! :D

[@R-D-dg7wx]

Your videos are cure to depression

[@Secretmonke]

You also helped me a lot on this. Now I can do a no evidence challenge!

[@austinin]

8:52 I had the same issue happen to me when I tried taking an interaction photo of the door. My only guess is that if you go to move the door yourself it will cancel the interaction from the ghost thus making the photo blank instead of saying interaction.

[@Bonc5]

Keep up the good work Insym, your videos are great and entertaining ❤

[@T-34]

@@R-D-dg7wx for real

[@jessicagage3080]

You could do a "the house isn't haunted" challenge by combining this with friendly ghost mode lmao

[@mokufreeman4692]

turn everything to low, freindly ghost, do it in random lobbies with people new to the game that have no idea what is going on. no events, no hunts, no evidence, it's just a break in at that point with people yelling random things.

[@southpark1you0]

@@mokufreeman4692 and then tell them that to get money, you have to steal phones and laptops. burglar simulator.

[@gyanprakash7445]

Conrad challenge

[@RooRooBecky]

Oooh yeah, a "Can we figure out the ghost if it doesn't hunt us" kind of thing. Since a lot of the ghost abilities are tied to their hunts, that would add an interesting twist.

[@uorimoon]

About the shade round: It did not hunt in the same room as you. You were in the Living Room/Foyer area of the house, while it hunted from the Master Bedroom. (Albeit very close to the door, like it wandered in there and immediately started hunting). Shades are sneaky little things sometimes.

[@ramanand5187]

I'm really happy the direction phasmo is taking before the launch. Feels very good to be a part of a community whose voices are heard, either by the Dev's directly, or through Insym.

[@GlitchyGem]

The crying ghost event actually made me flinch because I was eating, and wasn't expecting it. So that made me jump a bit.

[@yesofastora3572]

25:20 A lot of people dont know this, but ghost events from any ghost drain your sanity if you look directly at it, meaning your cursor lights up when it goes over the ghost.

[@capeling]

51:19 seeing a really skilled phasmo player kinda makes me feel better about me dying all the time

[@vitopettito1689]

The brilliancy of this setting is now people will be much better exposed and driven to discover the ghost's hidden abilities they've been putting so much thought and effort into creating and tweaking for a great detective experience

[@nomnom1197]

Maybe for each photo evidence you get a total multiplier increase (by .2 or something) instead of base money. You would increase your total payout and prevent any cheese that would come from increased money from photos.

[@luminirae]

I love how you really do go through every single new part of the update! Very nice for people who can't play the game themselves (me included) great work as usual !

[@lekiui]

Can we just appreciate all the hard work Insym is putting into this update. We've been having longer streams and lots of videos!! Thank you man ❤️

[@coola1383]

Shows how much he loves this game

[@itwasmemateee]

@@coola1383 And us. :)

[@hun7er761]

Fr tho, this update brought me back to the game, hope they don't mess it up now

[@Jimmy_D_Spoofy]

I think sometimes in this patch, a ghost gets labeled as a shade when it is not. We had a game last night where it was not possible to be anything except a demon based on the sanities and the hunt and death we witnessed really early. But when we left, certain the math was correct after running it twice, it turned out to be a shade.

[@souland3566]

Skill issue?

[@Jimmy_D_Spoofy]

@@souland3566 Bitch, please. I don't have math skills I have math ***talent***. Step back.

[@jack---]

yeah today me and my mates did quick money games where we just got the bone. soooo many ghosts were shades!!

[@darkzak47]

The new throws are awesome! Thanks to CJ and Lavender and the other devs who don’t get enough press! And thanks to Insym and Psycho with your near nonstop vids covering the new content!

[@king_eevee]

Hey me again and i found another fun glitch using the balloons, make them disappear, make them glitch funny or use them to glutch you up the shelves where you normally can't get up there ^^

[@ricksprenkels3057]

cj listening to insym: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN!!!

[@zerphelexerias5605]

So had this on in the background and when Insym said "Drinking water, you too!" I actually passively replied "IT's in the fridge." like he could hear me x.x

[@shacksonsolar]

finding the ghost needs to feel like the main objective. going into camp woodwind to get one side objective and a bone evidence pays out so much more per minute then looking for ghost types. although phasmo is so fun you'll probably want to find out the ghost type when you start up the game ordinarily. maybe side objectives shouldn't give rewards unless you complete the investigation? Perhaps checking the correct evidence in the journal should be tied to money in some way?

[@NinjaxCad]

immediately in love with true 0-evidence videos. apocalypse update has been such a blessing

[@BAVy11037]

52:25 It's because it was in the Laundry room (there's not much to throw there) And also afaik ghosts don't like throwing when the lights are on (they were on most of the time)

[@luvisgone48]

Wow! I wanna try this -Goes in solo on amateur hearing 1 object thrown- I think I'm done here! -leaves-

[@Rayalot72]

Shade seems either slightly buggy or slightly inconsistent. It might have to do w/ how hunts work, where it might be able to move around or hunt on a delay after it's decided it's going to hunt. This would let it decide to hunt in an empty room before walking into a room with players, or decide to hunt while it's alone just before someone walks in on it. It might also be that the Shade has some kind of delay on how it checks if it's being blocked or not. This would explain why Shades will sometimes walk into empty rooms but still refuse to do anything, or walk into rooms with players present and then immediately hunt or perform activity.

[@BrodyKramer]

Challenge ideas for future attempts: 1. do the no evidence challenge, but give yourself a timer to do it, if you dont get it by say 15 minutes then you have to guess based on what you already have 2. Immediately use the cursed item and without leaving the house, find the ghost type

[@sharingheart13]

For the Wraith/Footstep objective, maybe have the Wraith disturb the salt, like have a bit of the salt from the pile spread a bit, enough to be noticeable if you stop to look at the pile, but not so much that it's obvious at a glance. It'd be like the salt was disturbed by the Wraith flying above it. And in that case, the objective could be changed to "Get a Ghost to disturb a salt pile".

[@Rayalot72]

Tbh, it'd probably be fine if the Wraith salt interaction were completely invisible with no tells, but it gave you the objective. It'd be a very rare thing to see, and it's arguably not a big deal when the Wraith tell is already extremely obvious. Reworking it in that way would also make the Wraith a lot more distinct, as it would be considerably harder to track and identify w/ salt, but it would also make its weakness considerably more effective since it could interact with salt piles multiple times when crossing over them repeatedly. Just put some salt in key walkway around the ghost, and it might as well have a permanent activity increase.

[@danielfrazier5586]

51:08 - Insym discovers a new hidden ability of a ghost - :)

[@WestWier]

1 m = 4 smudge sticks. Tested. Kind of. We started with average keyboard keys and then put the smudge on keyboard. So its very close for smudge to be 25cm

[@Zythixx]

A little tinfoil hat theory I have is in your first game at 8:22, when you check for EMF on the door and it doesn't give EMF, would that have been EMF 5? Since it was an Oni it could do EMF 5, but since it's no evidence it didn't give EMF at all? If that's the case it could be unintentional evidence.

[@nomnom1197]

Hmm well that could be true but I feel like that's something that would have been found out a long time ago. Like if in nightmare it can hide EMF 5, Im sure that this would have happened before right? And to find it out now is kind of big.

[@Zythixx]

@@nomnom1197 Yeah, the only people that would actually be able to figure it out is the devs. I was mainly just making a wild guess as to why the door wouldn't give interactions or EMF. My guess could be true if No evidence runs are coded differently than hiding evidence, but it's impossible to confirm my theory unless a dev tells us.

[@nomnom1197]

@@Zythixx Yeah maybe overlooked by the devs. But it was also odd that it didn't give any interaction photos either 🤔

[@MrDerekRobinson]

@@Zythixx what I think it is from observation when not getting an door interaction photo is that insym lately has not been taking door photos the exact same way he discovered months ago is the correct way to taking photos depending on what map he's on......... which is crouching down a facing upwards to make the photos count for door interactions. Months ago he had the hardest time making all door photos count and eventually figured out the problem but lately I notice he's been just taking photos the old way and I'm thinking the new update has distracted him greatly from his own discovery 🤣 as I yell at the screen saying "DUDE!!!! your taking the photos the old way every time the photo of the door doesn't count

[@meashcube]

Hey Insym, you did Video once where you described every Ghost and its abilities. Is this still valid info or did the ghosts changed from back then? I would love a new Video that covers it.

[@Stoy4ev92]

Hi Insym! I think I know how the ghosts (shade) hunts. Basically it is assigned a room (it could be the bedroom in your case) but it can walk in/out of that room, however the assigned room does not change as it is small walk in/out. I think this is how you got hunted from the same room

[@iAmThatOneDuck]

About the thing you talked about, where photo money isn't multiplied... I have a suspicion this change is tied to an exploit that was used before the update, where you could go into a map, take a photo of the cursed possession and leave. This was even faster on big maps, cuz all of the possessions are in the entrance room. This was super easy money, if this was multiplied by like 15x this would be too OP.

[@MagusShade101]

In regards to the photos, i wish you could take more than 1 picture of the ghost per contract. In universe, as a ghost hunter it doesn't make sense that you would prioritize pictures of salty footprints and items slightly moved over photographic proof of a ghost. Out of universe, it would make taking photos feel slightly better again because if you could get 1 photo of the ghost per ghost event/hunt then you could in theory get up to $200 from photos.

[@Blulbador]

You can get the shovel stuck in the truck ceiling by throwing it while looking forward normally. Its really funny!!

[@joejoe_tptg7733]

9:55 the odds of him dropping the Para mic and covering the EMF Reader. lol

[@sharingheart13]

From using the Thermometer, in my experience, the living room is only from the shelves. The spot you were standing on when the Shade started hunting from the living room is technically a hallway.

[@nxkls487]

I love your videos! I am coming from work and came home to watch your funny and special videos please keep it going for a loooong time :)

[@Camelotsmoon]

51:35 The moment when you get killed by a shade and guess the ghost wrong 😂😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣

[@foshyurgason]

I feel like this game is more of a learning experience than a horror game 😂 but I think that's what makes it unique and fun to a lot of other games. A lot of info isn't given out and you have to either learn it through other people or just personal experience

[@SadeFade]

I love how insym educates us on ghosts while he plays.

[@Neonalig]

In regards to photos, how about introducing a multiplier for the multiplier? That way a 1x game gives you 1x the normal photo cash; but a 24x game may only give you like 5x the money. This way photos still adjust with difficulty, but not to the point of ludicrous money gains. (This would obviously need some fine tuning and testing though, to find the correct values). It would probably also be the best to introduce a 'multiplier curve' instead of a flat constant for photos. (for Unity specifically, UnityEngine.AnimationCurve is a good way to implement inspector-serialisable, editable curves. Alternatively, just a hard-coded maths formula will also suffice).

[@elricb1488]

Dang, I haven't been this happy about a video in a while!

[@MegaLol2xd]

13:14 "very far away" means go home, or base (leave mission)... Not outside house to a truck.

[@mattbrewerton6884]

Insym makes me feel like I can play solo. Then I load the map and close Phasmo.

[@Chris_TeeK]

For the photo multiplier, they could do a percentage of the multiplier. For example, if your multiplier is 6x, maybe make photos worth 2x-2.5x?

[@hun7er761]

Shades has always hunted whenever it wants, at least when I've had them, they are broken for sure lmao

[@angadbagla]

at around 8:40 the reason why you didn't get an interaction photo is because you touched the door. i dont know if this is intended but if you touch a door after a ghost touched it the camera doesnt count it as an interaction anymore and will only give you star if there is fingerprint, because (maybe) according to it the interaction is gone due to user interference (?) or this is just a bug

[@paulmuscat2198]

hey insym, i have to say this, but your videos have been able to help me keep my sanity due to be being rushed to hospital due to emergency knee surgery. Thank you so much

[@voidchambers1996]

Good to keep your sanity high. You don't want to be helpless when the ghost hunts you

[@paulmuscat2198]

That’s for sure … especially when the sensor tap next to my bed turns on on it own I might need to buy and emf reader

[@iustinbauerofficial]

Hi Insym! I can't follow you on twitch idk why but still I support u keep it up! :))

[@amandaduckett3093]

the jumpscare at 20:28 literally made me throw my phone LMAO

[@geminislayer3013]

Item idea: add a watch that you can buy from shop to monitor your sanity without going back to the truck

[@Thrythlind]

I wish that DOTs, Spirit Box, and Writing Book had non-evidence interactions as well... so you'd have a reason to play with them in 0-evidence runs.

[@Vexurayr]

They could rebalance the amount of money you get from photos a little more, lower the amount you get from each individual photo but add in the full multiplier. Or how about capping the amount of money you get from photos, for instance you can only collect $30 worth of photos (times the multiplier). That would also mean that you don't have to be absolutely perfect with the camera, you could capture a couple pictures that end up being worth nothing while still being able to reach max photo rewards.

[@nixie3509]

hi insym!! it’s been awhile since i commented on your videos i’ve been one of your first phasmophobia watchers. i love your videos but i’ve never really had time to watch any of your live streams on twitch only on yt sadly. keep doing what your doing love the content ❤️

[@diegoseba12]

On that second game I think the Shade started its hunt from the master bedroom and not from the living room.

[@ThinksLamas]

CJ stands for Carl Johnson? "Oh shit here we go again"

[@sharingheart13]

Insym wasn't aware that a Shade can still do EMF 2 interactions when there are people around? Now it makes sense why he's constantly prematurely ruling out Shades.

[@catmealz]

I think the devs should add something similar to the Moroi to the Deogen. Using a para mic really close to a Deogen has a chance to have breathing.

[@TheWolfsbaneWitch.]

I use doorways as a reference for 1m, so I would try to eyeball it and imagine about 3 doorways as the range of a crucifix.

[@zah_old_acc]

0:03 "The custom difficulty has opened so many doors." Literally, there is a setting that says "Start with opened doors" or something lmao

[@Grim_and_Proper]

I remember reading an old answer by DK where, when asked about the shade's interactions, he said that the shade could not do EMF 3 interactions while a player is in the same room. Since EMF 3 is limited to throws and sometimes paintings falling from walls, I am guessing this is still correct after seeing those stats. I was wondering if maybe it had been changed since CJ said in one of your videos that it was all interactions that were blocked. Can't trust CJ...

[@AmandaMA7989]

I love your videos and streams. So well done and informative.

[@novaeclipse139]

I like that the photos arent super important now. Now i feel like i can take a photocam without feeling bad about taking a bad photo. People got mad when you messed up a photo on the old system

[@Micah_underscore]

The very first phantom I came across in the game, I actually identified by the sanity drain ability lol

[@zac.smith5]

The old phasmo challenge: Set the custom difficulty to make the game feel like old phasmo

[@lingkitty1998]

According to cj, myling has no difference in hunt footstep volumn as compared to other ghosts, only range

[@pyrowolfcb4086]

Even before the custom difficulty I only ever really got music box and seldom ever saw the summoning circle.

[@agent-liam6399]

Think mini campsite is amazing can be easy as its small but dangerous as very open

[@oph0322]

The door photo bug is really annoying. It's been going on for a long time I hope the devs got time to fix it

[@qscaryboy10]

"Its doing sounds that i can t see "😂😂

[@alexfinley3658]

That shade that hunted you look like if you ruined the footage that it came out of the room to the side just barely out of the room

[@snaztw7]

Yurei is -15 on contact with ghost during events, Oni is -20.

[@zeldagilligan]

thank you for your service

[@ry._an]

pls do the stealing electronics with the hardest difficulty

[@itwasmemateee]

This intro is legendary! :D

[@SwitchedPC]

47:30... I just use 9ft its a little off but it works, but to make up for using ft I use Celcius dw :)

[@mattclever8980]

Thanks for all the Videos you upload ^^❤

[@HanDaimond]

That shade was soooo dirty.

[@UnicornFarts7_Official]

Your no evidence runs are awesome! I always get goryos…😢

[@HEXdankmemes]

can you make an updated video on all ghosts and their abilities?

[@pyrowolfcb4086]

1 meter is about 3.3 feet and 3 meters is about 10 feet. (A little less for both measures.)

[@sebastian7826]

51:10 the ghost came out from the bedroom not the living room

[@phantom_5055]

Love when papiiii Insym uploads

[@andixpiwi8325]

insym you have to play alien isolation if you haven't already

[@OzoneGrif]

I had a Shade act weirdly in one of my game as well. It threw objects right in front of me, which is usually not possible for a shade; and it did ghost events as well. Very confusing.

[@awesomedavid2012]

Mimic just became one of the easiest no evidence ghosts because any orbs means mimic guaranteed

[@TheCreative01e]

For the discerning US based chad, 1m is about a yard. So 3 yards in each direction of coverage for the Crucifix. 5 yards for the Demon cause it’s a little bitch.

[@TheDJroombaGaming]

Good video! I'm staying hydrated.

[@yummine3082]

insym, i love your sweaters😔

[@RamenLlama]

Damn your computer/fans are loud. I've noticed the audio ducking lots of times but it's especially loud here lol

[@nucleus691]

Kinda wish we had 4 evidence as an option so we would get a false positive

[@LiquidREAP]

Tested the emf2 on breaker, was a Goryo unfortunately.

[@MrCrowleyanity]

so if you cant get freezing temps with no evidence, does that mean a hantu will be weakened because it wont be as cold as freezing temps would make it? makes a hantu?

[@alexfinley3658]

Like the bedroom

[@ricksprenkels3057]

you thought about going for a vacation? just for the weekend? you are working alot

[@i.r.3016]

I wonder if when the Mimic transforms into a Moroi and curses you if the curse is still active after it transforms into another ghost.

[@captainstaby]

the curse is scripted to be active until uve either taken pills or lost 30% sanity which doesnt take that long really if the mimic changes ghost type in time will make no difference buddy 👍

[@suethao14]

Insym doing Conrad rp in this video.

[@raybk9677]

no vods today but a real upload is good too :)

[@goatmagic6845]

Lets say if the ghoast has writting as an evidence....when it set to 0 evidence would that ghoast be able to move the book or not? Like if the book moved in the ghoast room all the ghoast with writting are ruled out

[@goatmagic6845]

Just curious

[@ROCKMICHAnr2]

i have an idea no evidence and reduce so you get almost no ghost events and almost no hunts

[@that_tikosh]

What if the photos use a multiplier of at most 1x in case you didn't guess the right ghost?

[@heraldofwoe3686]

How about instead of gaining money from photos, you lose some of the money you made from the objectives for every photo you do not have. Depending on the modifier will determine how much you miss out for each photo. This would keep the same dynamic with the way you earn but make photos important to take again.

[@Pii10]

This is really awesome😊