integral of sqrt(x^2-9)/x^3 by trig substitution, calculus 2 tutorial

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@DanDart
@DanDart 8 жыл бұрын
I love how much reduction and simplification you have to get to sin^2
@danielmillan6144
@danielmillan6144 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I had a very similar problem but just different numbers. Take care!
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 7 жыл бұрын
There is an exercise involving right triangle wich helps derive u subsitution for these integrals
@natew7336
@natew7336 5 жыл бұрын
After that long integral imagine forgetting + C.
@arjunsinha4015
@arjunsinha4015 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@garydan
@garydan 6 ай бұрын
The teacher: minus 5 points for forgetting +C
@nurulafifahyusoff6954
@nurulafifahyusoff6954 7 жыл бұрын
this is what im looking for. thank you soooo much
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
you're welcome
@sakuriosky1573
@sakuriosky1573 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I was super confused on the part where we change from theta to x again and inserting it back into the function.
@douglasletsoalo7639
@douglasletsoalo7639 9 жыл бұрын
you are the best!!!!!!
@thomasjefferson6225
@thomasjefferson6225 3 жыл бұрын
Been doing trig sub as an adult who's teaching himself for fun. I got this right first Try. Time to learn application of integrals!
@keithkinsella6757
@keithkinsella6757 9 жыл бұрын
You are awesome!!!!!! well done all around.
@gregoriousmaths266
@gregoriousmaths266 4 жыл бұрын
The only reason I could do this is because of you, dr peyam, flammable maths and fematika (although he does higher level maths) Thank you sooooo much!
@srnjnmedhi
@srnjnmedhi 4 жыл бұрын
*Nobody* : *Integration* *is* *difficult* . *Blackpenredpen* : *Hold* *my* *pens* .
@kuanlinpaihan
@kuanlinpaihan 7 жыл бұрын
YOU SAVED MY LIFE THANK YOU
@wamzyz1239
@wamzyz1239 4 жыл бұрын
i got stuck after sin^2(x) thank you :D you are the major reason why I know trigonometry substitution :D
@MarcoMate87
@MarcoMate87 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic proof, but there could a little inaccuracy. First of all, the domain of the function f(x) in the integral is D = {x=3} In D, f(x) is positive when x is positive, negative when x is negative. In the "teta world", sqrt(tan^2(teta)) = |tan(teta)|, so your solution is correct if and only if tan (teta) = tan(arcsec(x/3)) is >=0, and this happens if and only if x>=3. So, the correct solution of the integral is your solution multiplicated by sgn (x).
@1ZombieMan1
@1ZombieMan1 9 жыл бұрын
He has no idea what he is doing, the ball knows alll!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 9 жыл бұрын
Yup. The ball is my spirit!
@AlchemistOfNirnroot
@AlchemistOfNirnroot 8 жыл бұрын
+blackpenredpen I'm doing A Level Maths. We do U-Substitution but this trig for algebra substitution looks more advanced and the reasoning isn't known to me. Why can't you do U=x^2-9?
@johnsondirtbikes9346
@johnsondirtbikes9346 8 жыл бұрын
+AlchemistOfNirnroot. if you use u=x^2-9 then du would be 2x and you wouldnt be able to plug in du because it has a variable in it
@AlchemistOfNirnroot
@AlchemistOfNirnroot 8 жыл бұрын
JohnsonDirtBikes Oh, thanks.
@nathanwright7775
@nathanwright7775 7 жыл бұрын
You can still plug in du for dx, you just have to solve the equation for x and plug in into the equation
@joshuaabbott7134
@joshuaabbott7134 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Your videos are great to check where I've gone wrong when I get stuck.
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
Yay!!
@alexkaranja9981
@alexkaranja9981 6 жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen try this one out...integral of 20x(x^3+3)^9
@ernestschoenmakers8181
@ernestschoenmakers8181 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexkaranja9981 Just expand the integrand and then do the integration, it's gonna be a very long answer.
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 Жыл бұрын
You can avoid trigonometric functions here First calculate by parts D I + sqrt(x^2-9) 1/x^3 - x/sqrt(x^2-9) -1/2*1/x^2 -1/2sqrt(x^2-9)/x^2 +1/2Int(x/sqrt(x^2-9)*1/x^2,x) Let u = sqrt(x^2-9) u^2 = x^2-9 2udu = 2xdx udu = xdx x^2=u^2+9 -1/2sqrt(x^2-9)/x^2 +1/2Int(u/u*1/(u^2+9),u) -1/2sqrt(x^2-9)/x^2 +1/2*1/3*Int(1/3/(1+(u/3)^2),x) -1/2sqrt(x^2-9)/x^2 +1/6arctan(u/3) -1/2sqrt(x^2-9)/x^2 +1/6arctan(sqrt(x^2-9)/3)+C
@RosaXu-r6d
@RosaXu-r6d Жыл бұрын
saved my day!
@simalot1
@simalot1 8 жыл бұрын
+AlchemistOfNirnroot When you let u = (X^2-9) and take the derivative, you get (du/2)=xdx which doesn't show up in your numerator so it doesn't help simplify things because you can't integrate x with respect to u. Hope that's helpful, I am no expert!
@Dav.02
@Dav.02 2 жыл бұрын
You will get to integral (u/x^3)(u/x) du
@bobingstern4448
@bobingstern4448 3 жыл бұрын
I knew how to do this yay!
@joedwardmarin4686
@joedwardmarin4686 3 жыл бұрын
You need to change your name of youtube to blackpenredpenbluepen hahaha thanks for u teach time!! u help to me so much sorry for my bad english :P
@rodrigoortiz8770
@rodrigoortiz8770 8 жыл бұрын
Subscribed ! thanks a lot !
@Nikhil_Shre.nik_1825
@Nikhil_Shre.nik_1825 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir so much
@susanalabbe2433
@susanalabbe2433 3 жыл бұрын
THANKS A LOT.
@Azone89725
@Azone89725 3 жыл бұрын
thank you very much!!
@tanoydebnath
@tanoydebnath Жыл бұрын
Thanks sir ❤
@Aek1961
@Aek1961 2 жыл бұрын
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@wandaashila8390
@wandaashila8390 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much !!!
@Kawaremu
@Kawaremu 5 жыл бұрын
Hey ! I've been watching your videos for a while, but I still cannot find in my books the inverse function of the sec x, what is it exactly?
@yanbanales-garcia8563
@yanbanales-garcia8563 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr math guy!!!
@zerosixzerosix
@zerosixzerosix 9 жыл бұрын
thanks for all the help!
@Azizzmuck
@Azizzmuck 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@92Thekiller
@92Thekiller 9 жыл бұрын
thank´s, it help me so much
@hazzanrashid5785
@hazzanrashid5785 5 жыл бұрын
thank you bro
@elaporso8466
@elaporso8466 6 жыл бұрын
Gracias eres increíble 💕😊
@frankgiovenco2449
@frankgiovenco2449 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on a Integral Problem for sqrt(9-x^2)/x^3
@nolanpestano1798
@nolanpestano1798 Жыл бұрын
absolutely bonkers problem
@Leonardo-zp1sr
@Leonardo-zp1sr 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@phconsideredplayercnr3797
@phconsideredplayercnr3797 3 жыл бұрын
It really shows that you NEED to know all the trigonometric identities
@carmenvazquez1011
@carmenvazquez1011 8 жыл бұрын
Can you help me with the exercise #19, sect 7.3? please thanks for the video :3
@erenozturk5796
@erenozturk5796 4 жыл бұрын
can +you please make a video of x=a.sec θ and show on the triangle please?
@gingermuro6388
@gingermuro6388 9 ай бұрын
Why not just use theta = sec^-1(x/3) in place of sin(2theta), in other words, just plug in theta inside the sin(2theta)?
@harrywang2795
@harrywang2795 9 ай бұрын
You can and there’s nothing wrong with that, but sin(2(sec^-1/(x/3))) looks much more intimidating than the answer he got, if you can simplify your answer you should
@gingermuro6388
@gingermuro6388 9 ай бұрын
@@harrywang2795if that expression (sin(2*sec^-1(x/3))) were to have the limit as x approaches infinity, do you know what the answer would be?
@harrywang2795
@harrywang2795 9 ай бұрын
@@gingermuro6388I’m not sure, sorry
@gingermuro6388
@gingermuro6388 9 ай бұрын
@@harrywang2795 it’s okay lol, i’m just stuck on a problem, but thanks anyways!
@harrywang2795
@harrywang2795 9 ай бұрын
@@gingermuro6388 No problem!
@276_rein
@276_rein 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@kunjantrivedi9259
@kunjantrivedi9259 5 жыл бұрын
Can you solve the same problem?the only diffrence is sqrt 9-x^2 and instead of x^3 only x?
@ernestschoenmakers8181
@ernestschoenmakers8181 5 жыл бұрын
Well if you let x=3sin(u) where u=arcsin(x/3) and dx=3cos(u)du then after doing all the steps for solving the integral you'll get I=sqrt(3-x^2) + 3lnIx/(3+sqrt(3-x^2)I + C.
@swl6078
@swl6078 4 жыл бұрын
your answer is correct if tan(theta)>0 but false when tan(theta)
@jaquelinemendezgarcia9485
@jaquelinemendezgarcia9485 4 жыл бұрын
Thank U🥺❤️. MX
@kaustubhdeshpande2892
@kaustubhdeshpande2892 7 жыл бұрын
How did he get value of dx?
@AbiRizky
@AbiRizky 7 жыл бұрын
since dx is the derivative of x, and x equals to sec(u), then dx equals to the derivative of sec(u), which is d/du (sec(u)) = sec(u)tan(u), which means that dx = sec(u)tan(u)du. Sorry for using u, don't have a key for theta
@joshkernole
@joshkernole 6 жыл бұрын
how did sin^2 teta turn into 1/2 (1-cos 2teta)?
@tommyliu7020
@tommyliu7020 Жыл бұрын
That’s a formula you memorize
@RedMapleTv83
@RedMapleTv83 3 жыл бұрын
thx
@maxlinder4966
@maxlinder4966 8 жыл бұрын
in the final answer why did you write sec^-1 but not sin^-1 cos^-1 ?
@immutabledestiny6377
@immutabledestiny6377 8 жыл бұрын
Lai Linder , the reason for this is when we perform this substitution, we use x=3sec(theta), because of this relationship, theta is given as the arcsec(x/3). The reason arccos and arc sin are used is that they define a relationship in theta, and the original integral is with respect to x and not theta
@immutabledestiny6377
@immutabledestiny6377 8 жыл бұрын
Are not*
@Ravenspeed
@Ravenspeed 8 жыл бұрын
+Andreus Brammer thanks, I've successfully passed my calculus 2 course and this all makes sense. Practice makes perfect : )
@stefanwnuk1227
@stefanwnuk1227 6 жыл бұрын
why are we allowed to omit the absolute value when we take the square root of tan squared theta?
@crosisbh1451
@crosisbh1451 6 жыл бұрын
i think it might be that the square root is only positive while talking about functions. Don't quote me on that though.
@mathadventuress
@mathadventuress 4 жыл бұрын
I need to do reciprocal of this but 9-x²
@Ilikepi123
@Ilikepi123 7 жыл бұрын
WHAT A MAN
@albertfarias3672
@albertfarias3672 5 жыл бұрын
gracias por la explicacion amigo, saludos desde venezuela. El idioma no es barrera para transmitir conocimientos
@serouj2000
@serouj2000 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, you put a 9 after removing aswelll
@ytsimontng
@ytsimontng 4 жыл бұрын
Hey BPRP! Is it true that you prefer to use integration by parts now to integrate sin^2(theta) when using trigsubs?
@parkhamidi2406
@parkhamidi2406 3 жыл бұрын
Hello how are you?
@belmokhtarbentadj9794
@belmokhtarbentadj9794 7 жыл бұрын
good work but can you see me integral with suite
@Omar-sq6zz
@Omar-sq6zz 6 жыл бұрын
can you do sqrt(x^2-16)dx
@wineryneo
@wineryneo 3 жыл бұрын
why not √(secθ)^2-1 = | tanθ | abs.
@ガアラ-h3h
@ガアラ-h3h Жыл бұрын
I’d have done it differently I’d have either used 3 cos x or 3 sin x
@someperson188
@someperson188 7 жыл бұрын
The answer given is incorrect when x 0, SGN(x) = -1, if x < 0, SNG(0) = 0.
@michaelokoth8287
@michaelokoth8287 6 жыл бұрын
great great
@baitywahidiah8077
@baitywahidiah8077 6 жыл бұрын
how to integrate x^3(√ 4-x^2)dx
@herbcruz4697
@herbcruz4697 5 жыл бұрын
Break the x^3 up as x^2*x, and then let u = 4-x^2. That's your hint.
@jesseolsson1697
@jesseolsson1697 3 жыл бұрын
the thumbnail says dt; you just put a t in the numerator
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, that’s a mistake.
@guccisavage2739
@guccisavage2739 4 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail said “dt” but is in terms of x
@СнежныйБарс-г2я
@СнежныйБарс-г2я 2 жыл бұрын
dx , but not dt in title
@Refuze2B4gotten
@Refuze2B4gotten 7 жыл бұрын
wait but i thought 1-2cos(2x) = (sin^2(x))^2 not sin^2(x)
@hasinie6606
@hasinie6606 5 жыл бұрын
You used a blue pen.
@luisacristancho7526
@luisacristancho7526 7 жыл бұрын
Ojala hablaras español
@ang_gml
@ang_gml 5 жыл бұрын
No es un inglés muy complicado, además, si pones atención a lo que hace en cuanto a la parte matemática, podría hablar en cualquier idioma y no habría problema alguno.
@lalitverma5818
@lalitverma5818 6 жыл бұрын
NYC qst
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 4 жыл бұрын
The term power reduction formula refers to the formula which you derived in the video kzbin.info/www/bejne/r16cmoWGerOLpbc and using it in this context is confusing
@abdosalah3832
@abdosalah3832 3 жыл бұрын
dx not dt
@ezino
@ezino 6 жыл бұрын
He is so young here lol
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 8 жыл бұрын
I would integrate this by parts and then substitute for square root
@AbiRizky
@AbiRizky 7 жыл бұрын
eh, isn't that kinda too much work?
@AbiRizky
@AbiRizky 7 жыл бұрын
So I'm on top of my game now? I haven't even started my calculus 1 course....
@draganarbutina8835
@draganarbutina8835 6 жыл бұрын
Kinez zadao alo care gore oznaciiiiii.
@jhonhernandez9210
@jhonhernandez9210 6 жыл бұрын
You need to work on your pronunciation
@JennaLuuLuu
@JennaLuuLuu 3 жыл бұрын
unnecessary comment, clearly English is not his first language, however he is still trying and helping us learn. He is doing something for us (which he doesn't have to do) and you are being offensive.
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