Intel Arc A750 vs. GeForce RTX 4060, 40+ Game Benchmark @ 1080p & 1440p

[@hefty8876]

Man, with how far Intel has come with its driver development, I can’t wait to see what Battlemage brings to the table.

[@vishaalgargi]

Whats battlemage

[@MalfunctioningAndroid]

@@vishaalgargia mage who battle a lot.

[@PSXman9]

@@vishaalgargi their next gen gpus

[@boingkster]

@@PSXman9 dude, I'm buying it for the name alone hahaha

[@WCIIIReiniger]

😂

[@AjrAlves]

Almost 8 months with my A750. It was a rocky start, but nowadays the experience is rock solid, for what I've paid it performs great, overclocks well, is dead silent and have useful features. Needless to say I like it.

[@dnakatomiuk]

How is it for older dx9 games ?? That's the biggest issue gamers had with it no DX9 support from launch

[@wolfyix_4358]

​@@dnakatomiuki think they had some driver updates for dx9

[@martinez392]

@@dnakatomiuk Not really an issue anymore. As Intel has improved DX9 support and continues to fix issues overall

[@toddsmithselbow1732]

​@@dnakatomiukImproved a lot of games, I'm sure some performance is still the same. But it's a work in progress

[@abcdefgh6121]

He said that more bandwidth is definitely helping Intel ARc 750 to get fps so close to other ones. But it has same VRAM and everything same, and more bandwidth. So, shouldn't it be getting more fps than other two?

[@davo_v]

I have an A750. It wouldn’t be my first choice of GPU but it was excellent value for what I got it for. It plays the games I want to play well, but I do tend to avoid ray tracing.

[@misterpinkandyellow74]

I got a Rx 7900xt and I avoid ray tracing too

[@GrumpyGrndad]

@@misterpinkandyellow74 Understandable with AMD gpu

[@rafe9852]

I have a 3080 and I also avoid ray tracing

[@MrBlueBrewer]

I have a 3090 and also avoid ray tracing.

[@xKamiiii]

​@@GrumpyGrndadno, even if i had a 4090, i'd still not use raytracing. cutting half of my fps for some better lightning here and there? no thanks. i'd rather cap my fps instead and have a quiet and cool system running

[@JBouBei]

For a first gpu series, Intel is definitely going the right way, taking grounds on budget builds, bringing updates that make differences. I can't wait to see what they'll bring in the future, if they can bring something similar for the midrange, competing against the 4070, that'd be amazing for everybody.

[@OfSheikah]

Yea right? It is as if when a company tries to actually appease consumers with a sense of good value in their products or services consumers will gladly choose their products and services? Shocking!

[@shuntao3475]

People say budget, I say Mainstream, since the xx60 series out sales the rest of the family combined. The is the right play to start.

[@youtubevanced4900]

What they have going now is looking pretty good. I still wouldn't buy it. AMD is just as cheap and better in every metric. Saying all that, it's not Intel's first generation. It's the second discrete generation for this attempt at dedicated GPUs. As far as GPUs and drivers are concerned though, well they have been doing integrated for decades. When you consider the fact they have graphics drivers for just as long as AMD and NVIDIA it's actually pretty bad that the drivers were so bad on release.

[@sgredsch]

AMD is worse in productivity and raytracing, also in well optimized games the high shader count of alchemist does alot of heavy lifting. If you want a card that does a little gaming and video, alchemist is really good and with 16gb on the a770 pretty much is the prime choice up until the rtx 4080. The igpu driver is different to the dgpu driver, intel had to start over. and alchemist is also the first globally launched gpu that will get a successor. everything else gpu that Intel did was either a protoype, limited one generation launch or an igpu. Intel arc is a whole new era.

[@MrTobiKay]

@@youtubevanced4900 AMD is certainly not better in RT

[@MrKanooe]

I have a A770 16GB vram, with an I5-13400f and playing in 1440p, and i quite say i'm blown away by the performance. I wanted an entry level computer to play on 1440p, and seeing each driver positivly increase the game performances while resolving issues ( the long lasting DX9 and DX11 games eh!) while still not perfect on these i won't gonna lie, i think Team blue can and will have an impact in the GPU market, now to wait and see the battlemage GPU cards.

[@bradhaines3142]

they fix any of those D9 games or are they still horrible to try to run?

[@MrKanooe]

@@bradhaines3142 Some, it's still playing the dices on these DX9 games. They are playable, tho, and that's a really good improvement compared to launch. ( When i say playable, i have 100+ fps on these dx9 games, but it's far from this card should output.)

[@ramschasar7654]

Well when you have 100+ fps does bad perfomance even matter?

[@MrKanooe]

@@ramschasar7654 Compared to what this card should output, yes it's bad ! Not mentionning some FPS stutters, the experience is far from perfect on DX9 games, but it gets better.

[@volvot6rdesignawd702]

im in the process of building a 13600k with the ARC770 16gb ..i previously paired it with 5600x and i myself was quite impressed with the card and software simple solid software no BS simple OC controls and the card just works .. 100% cant wait to see what Intel do next with the GPU's !!

[@infinity2z3r07]

feels weird rooting for intel, but here i am

[@Bourinos02]

It's okay as long as it's Intel GPUs :D

[@ImOnMy116]

I’m almost always happy to root for the underdog in the PC hardware space or just generally get behind whoever I think has the best chance to force things in the direction of better price to performance. Kudos to Intel for recognizing the opportunity in the market and working to capitalize on it. Hopefully they only continue to improve their relative positioning.

[@YourPalHDee]

Yeah, very odd times

[@EXOWill]

I purchased the A750 the first week in July this year. Overall I am very impressed with this card. When I first installed the card I started going through my steam library trying to find problems. I only found a couple of games that were problematic, Halo Infinite would not start and Darktide would crash. I joined the Intel Community Forums and after reporting my findings the problems with Halo were quickly corrected. Right now I've been playing Remnant 2 at 1080p, Ultra with Xess balanced and it's running very smooth at around 70 fps.

[@masterluckyluke]

Very cool how Intel can compete with those cards and also at a much lower price. I would really like to see how the A770 16GB version performs nowadays with the new drivers.

[@raffiefoxmew3691]

I own this card and have done some testing recently. Across the board, it's around 8-10% faster than the A750, so you could apply that modifier to these results in the video and it'd be approximately correct. However, when getting to 4K rendering, the 16GB and great mem bandwidth of the A770 will keep the performance much higher still than any of the cards here.

[@shuntao3475]

My Numbers at 1440p show 5-10% performance over the A750... Considering that's makes it 9% slower than the 4060 for the same price, not the best value. However, I bought my 2 cards months before the 4060 release for $300, so I am still VERY happy with the purchase.

[@VUO4E]

@@raffiefoxmew3691 But looking at the specs, shouldn't the 770 perform much better ? IMO, either the 750 is overperforming or the 770 underperforming.

[@motmontheinternet]

@@VUO4E No, about 10% is about what the specs indicate the performance difference should be. Obviously the 16GB card is more future proof. At higher resolution you might expect the different spec increases to be more impactful, but none of the Intel cards are really 4K graphics cards.

[@masterluckyluke]

@@raffiefoxmew3691 Thanks, that's very interesting, so the 750 is much better value and still good enough at 1080p. Do you have the LE from Intel or the Sparkle OC one? At the moment the Sparkle OC version is 30 Euros cheaper in my region than the Intel Limited Edition version.

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

Wonderful to see that Intel is making rapid progress with Alchemist. I'm not upgrading this generation, but assuming all this work carries over to Battlemage, I'll have to seriously consider them.

[@GeminionRay]

Where I live the A750 costs like 30% less than the 4060, and it's priced lower than what my 1060 was in early 2017. This is really impressive for their first generation cards.

[@avishekmitra3698]

Ngl, at launch, I wasn't expecting the A750 to be such a banger of an entry level 1440p card for $200 US. Would have loved the 6600 to be thrown in the mix now that it can be found for $180 US.

[@saricubra2867]

RX6600 is overrated because the RX5700XT exists.

[@Juani_lol]

​@@saricubra2867I got my 5700 xt for $140, absolute beast

[@andersjjensen]

@@saricubra2867 But for people who insist on warranty and a return window the 5700XT doesn't exist.

[@retrotechpinas3640]

Would've been nice if a power consumption chart was included.

[@PainterVierax]

yeah it's another downside for the Intel gfx cards compared to its competitors. Though IMO the pwr consumption charts provided by HWUB are often insufficient to tell the whole story, as it lacks a lot of idle and light load scenarios or even some fps capped scenarios easily occurring with some indie games or weak CPU bottlenecking. AFAIK the most interesting power consumption tests comes from TechPowerUp articles.

[@deviouslaw]

They don't usually do that with revisit content. You can just refer to the day-1 review.

[@Lemard77]

A750 power consumption is around 220W, RX 7600 is around 150W, and RTX 4060 is around 125W

[@X2yt]

Not gonna lie, power consumption on such low-mid grade cards is irrelevant to 99% of customers. People buy what they can afford regardless how much power it consumes. And anyway, power consumption is basically only relevant on stuff like 4080/4090/3090ti, where GPU's alone consume 400-500-600 Watts, that's where its actually significant power draw that comes with additional problems like higher cooling requirements. But for low grade it literally doesn't matter.

[@Lemard77]

@@thenotsookayguy Techpowerup and Gamers Nexus reviews put it at 220-230W, so probably your numbers are for GPU chip only (without taking into account the other elements in the PCB like memory and VRM power losses).

[@AdamsWorlds]

Glad your reviewing these cards again. I see so many people testing the mid range cards without inc the intel ones. Intel seems very competitive now, especially considering you can get them on the used market and know they have not been mined on. Decent for a little 1080p med-high settings PC on the cheap. Be nice to see these up against other budget used options like the 2060s and stuff.

[@bearwynn]

not that mining actually matters all that much, worst case scenario is a fan replacement or a repaste and that's very unlikely to be necessary

[@flushfire]

@@bearwynn for cards that saw 2 rounds of mining (polaris, vega, pascal) it does matter unfortunately.

[@DeckDogs4Life]

I think what's impressive for me is the frame time consistency in a lot of these games. Often when the Intel ARC card was losing, the 1% lows were so incredibly close to the average that the experience might actually be better with a lower average. It wasn't always the case but i noticed that in quite a few of the titles shown. I hope they keep pushing with the driver updates because it's really impressive how far Intel has come since launching these cards.

[@slickrounder6045]

Both the A750 at $200 and the A770 16gb at $300 are pretty competitive and compelling options, and are a good 1st generation for Intel. Drivers constantly supporting mean they have been aging better as time goes on.

[@sijedevos2376]

€399 for a770 doesn’t make sense in Europe

[@andersjjensen]

@slavelaboringkid7597 Ryzen 3000 (sans the G variants) and Intel 10th gen support SAM/ReBAR. Those are 4 and 3.5 year old CPUs respectively. It is absolutely not unthinkable that someone who bought a lower mid range GPU with their system at that time would be considering an upgrade by now. Secondly: people looking for an absolute value build right now, where every penny counts, could also consider the A750. Pair it with a $95 AM4 board, a Ryzen 5600 and a DDR4 3600 kit and they have a foot in the door at 1080p gaming with the prospect of either Ultra or High in almost every game for some time to come.

[@andersjjensen]

@@sijedevos2376 The A770 makes no sense flat out. 8GB is a compromise, 12GB is sufficient and 16GB is superfluous for the realistic target resolutions. The 6700XT or 6750XT reigns supreme here in price to performance.

[@justcrap3703]

@slavelaboringkid7597 Not always true. I have 16gb ram 3200hz, b450m pro gaming, amd ryzen 5 3600....... and a gtx 750. My Mb supports rebar.

[@DigitalJedi]

@slavelaboringkid7597ReBar is older than you may realize. The technology has been present since the Haswell (4770K) days, but consumer boards started seeing it with Coffee Lake (8700K) as far as I can tell. It's entirely possible that 7th gen supported it as well, but I can't find concrete proof. Z370 seems to be the first consumer chipset that reliably supports it. Somebody with an 8600K and GTX 1060 would be able to use ReBar and upgrade just their GPU. That is a 6-year-old CPU and a similarly old GPU. I know this works because it's exactly what I helped my brother do. He was coming from a GTX1070, but with an 8600K and Z370 motherboard.

[@lloydaran]

Here in Italy, the A750 is around 250€, the same price range as the RX 6650 XT, which is significantly faster, while the RX 6600 is 200€, 50€ or 20% less for (according to what you said) only 7% less performance. The 6600 XT is also at 230€ now. ARC is definitely not a good buy here :\

[@CrazyShiftee]

I haven’t been paying that much attention to the Intel GPUs since launch but damn.. to me these results are completely beyond impressive. Can’t wait for Battlemage!

[@solidreactor]

Kinda impressed on the raytrace performance, looking forward to Battle mage and future Intel GPUs

[@brucethen]

As a T-shirt collector, I would love an '"it depends" t-shirt, I already have the "hammer on box", "Harbour boxed" and "hardware unavailable " t-shirts.I live in the UK but have friends in the US and a trip planned later this year

[@ValdeSanus]

I want to get one to tinker with, looks like they are doing a better job than expected getting the drivers going properly considering the amount of legacy games there are to optimise for. Hope they can keep it up as there is far more competition in a 3 way fight than a cosy duopoly!

[@wile123456]

They don't optimized legacy games, they just further incorporate DXVK in the driver to make all old games run on vulkan instead

[@saricubra2867]

​@@wile123456I agree, since games like GTA IV are a dumpster on current AMD and NVIDIA cards anyway.

[@saricubra2867]

​@@wile123456Vulkan is just the best API out there.

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

Only Nvidia don't care anymore. They could drop their gaming line and hardly notice the difference in revenue. Last time it was mining for e currency. This time it's AI. Of the two I bet this AI gig is the more stable and long term. Bitcoins was a market doomed to fail in a relatively short time. Demand for AI on the other hand is just going to increase for the foreseeable future. Please nobody ask Nvidia what the development costs are for a new generation graphics cards and what the driver development and maintenance cost. They may just decide enough is enough and drop the graphics cards entirely to save on these parasitic costs. And then it's a duopoly again.

[@michaelkane6797]

Thanks for doing this update. I'm in the process of choosing components for a very budget limited system, and based on what I'm seeing the A750 will get the nod. I've been noticing their methodical approach to driver development on these cards and that, along with what will certainly be acceptable performance at it's price tier it gives me the space to spend a bit more on the base platform.

[@shlapmaster]

IT IS TIME TO RETEST THE 5700 XT !

[@igor4knezevic]

Maybe, but the issues that plagued the 5700XT made it painful for standard usage. Nvidia is just more stabile. This is coming from a 5700XT owner. Not to mention NFS 2015 and blocky reflection, it just doesn’t look like it should. On RTX 2060 it looked as it should.

[@W3TFART]

@@igor4knezevicare you high ? There’s no problem with the 5700 now

[@amjadtail1208]

​​@@igor4knezevic from a person who had 3 5700 xts, never had any problems whatsoever, just install the drivers and get playing, you had a defective card most likely

[@shlapmaster]

@@igor4knezevic I've been using a sapphire nitro + 5700xt for the last 6 months (bought it used for 130$) and I have not run into ANY kind of issues whatsoever. I'm pretty sure its the value purchase right now considering its not much slower than any of the GPU's up there, only downside is lack of RT (not that its even usable with those GPU's) but its almost half the price.

[@predator9909]

​@@igor4knezevici used to have rx 5700xt never faced that type of problem you are mentioning, yea on launch some black screen issues are there but after 6 months from purchase it's fixed and stable af

[@RenHeika]

I have an A750 and I honestly love it. Price to performance is crazy and it can do raytracing well for like they said at this price point, I play Metro Exodus Enhanced maxed out with RT maxed out as well at 1080P and get 70 to 100FPS. And that's without any reconstruction like DLSS or FSR.

[@lixol9797]

Any idea how it performs when editing and productivity.

[@zalankhan5743]

IMO the Out of all these 3 the Rx 7600 is worth it for $230 (if available) or even $250. But Yeah A750 catching-up to these Cards is Certainly Impressive. And considering its Specs it would be Even more faster with Driver Improvements.

[@danieloberhofer9035]

Scanning through the comments there seems to be one thing most people (intentionally?) forget: The A750 (and 770, for that matter) are based on the ACM-G10 GPU. That's a 406 mm² die, made on the TSMC N6 node with roughly 21 billion transistors. The RX 7600's Navi 33 die is also on TSMC N6, but only 204 mm² in size and comes in at around 13.3 billion transistors. And that's rather large compared to the 4060's AD-107 with 159 mm² and 18.9 bn transistors thanks to TSMC's 4N node. For the amount of silicon the A750 packs, the performance is still abysmal. Even Navi 22 (RX 6700 series), AMD's last gen mid-range die was appreciably smaller (~335 mm², 17.2 bn transistors) and just N7, not N6. And that one wipes the floor with an A750. You could say "what do I care about all that crap?" and for the sake of Steve's test you'd be right. But: Since Intel won't be getting any discounts from TSMC, there's a snowball's chance in hell they're making *any* money at Arc's current pricing. Even the long gone MSRP of $ 290,- was - best case - at cost. Again: Why should you care? Because all that really doesn't look good for Battlemage, Intel's 2nd gen dGPU. Silicon isn't getting any cheaper, less so with all the AI craze going on right now. Considering the real performance gap Intel has to close, not the camouflaged one with their current prices, they'd have to pull of nothing short of a miracle for Battlemage to be competitive. Because if it isn't, I wonder for how long they are not even willing but simply *able* to sell their GPUs at cost, if even that. I'm all for competition and the current gen is rather lackluster, both Nvidia and AMD alike. But I'm also a realist, and the whole "Intel is coming to save us all" is becoming a little long in the tooth. And if there's one thing Intel's not really known for these last years it's working miracles.

[@jameslake7775]

Based on rumors and leaks I’d seen elsewhere, I believe the speculation was slim, single-digit percent margin on A380 and A770, basically at-cost at best on A750, at launch prices. Allegedly they overbuilt based on rosy performance predictions and an assumption the market would stay hot, and now they’re stuck with inventory. Where that matters for enthusiasts is that same sources seem to believe Intel isn’t gonna attempt 6 models (A310/380/580/750/770 8g/770 16g) the second time around, and isn’t gonna overproduce so dramatically.

[@danieloberhofer9035]

@@jameslake7775 That's what I heard, as well. And if the rumors that they're only going to design two dies for Battlemage prove to be correct, I wonder if that's actually referring to the hypothetical BMG-G10 and G11, or if these "two dies" already include the tile they're designing for integrated graphics. If so, I wouldn't bet money we're ever going to see them reach "Druid" before they're forced to ax AXG entirely (I know that the name and the independence of the division are already gone).

[@Valkian24]

Even with it's faults, I do think the capabilities of the Arc GPUs and Intel's dedication to improving performance on them with the driver updates does show promise on what they could be planning next in the coming few years and it certainly has my attention whenever the Battlemage GPUs can succeed when they get announced/released as I'm looking to upgrade from my 1080ti. Although there's also the recently announced 7800/7700 XT cards that AMD announced at Gamescom, so it should be interesting to see on how they also turn out. (I would add in about Nvidia's 40-super series but that's currently a rumour at this point)

[@mikeelek9713]

These results are much more impressive than I expected. It sounds like Intel has done a very good job with driver development. This GPU might be a very good alternative for those who want a a GPU but don't want to spend a fortune and might only get involved in light gaming and don't want to pay AMD/Nvidia prices.

[@CanIHasThisName]

Very much appreciate this sort of testing. Intel really managed to turn their first generation around, that's some very respectable performance. Actually getting kinda excited (cautiosly) for Battlemage.

[@pawnmove]

For entry-level GPUs the important question is less about max FPS (90 vs. 100 fps is basically the same) and more about "can it play the games for a given resolution smoothly?" so I think a useful summary slide would show the matrix how many games each GPU could play at 60fps or higher (like 38/41 for 1080P, 31/41 for 1440P, etc.) for of the 3 GPUs, 2 resolutions, and 2 RT settings.

[@swecreations]

This testing is at high/max settings. You can always just tweak down the settings for 60fps, you'll usually barely notice the difference in visuals anyways.

[@soldiersvejk2053]

I genuinely did not expect my A750 to be on par with a XX60 tier N/A card. What a pleasant surprise.

[@vorpled]

Have an A770 16GB. Generally very happy with the purchase, though I knew the caveats going in. In the games I've been playing the performance is good enough that I generally don't even think about it while playing. I wanted a 16GB card, and the A770 was I think around AU$400 cheaper than any other 16GB card I could get at the time. Have had a few crashes, but generally that's been when I've been pushing the voltage or power limit. There's a bit of what I think is coil whine which is kind of annoying at times, but that usually goes away after playing for a while. All in all, happy with what it does, and confident it will serve me well for some time to come (touch wood).

[@AthenesWrath]

Pretty good results for Intel. Unfortunately, at least in Europe, the A750 costs about 240€ for the cheapest model, while the cheapest 4060 is 299€. That would only be a 20% reduction, making it way less appealing unless Intel can gain more performance in future driver versions.

[@dracer35]

I bought an A770 LE 16GB at launch out if curiosity to use off and on in my spare system. It surprised me and I really like using it. I plan on buying Battlemage also when it releases and am excited to see what improvements it can bring.

[@ppquickpp2000]

POWER COMSUPTION is the issue.

[@boingkster]

Awesome work as always guys, keep it up! Love the budget oriented content and your consistent pro-consumer attitude.

[@denvera1g1]

1:45 I find that except for their latest driver, the old ~october 22 driver was the most widely supported among my trouble games. with several games not even launching on newer drivers. Thankfully the latest drivers seem to fix this problem on at least some games.

[@obiwankenoobi4202]

I picked up an A770 in November and I've honestly been nothing but happy with my purchase. I actually ended up selling my 3060ti to a friend. I will say however, I really do miss RTX Broadcast but with some VST plugins and using Intel's virtual camera I've pretty much replicated everything I used it for anyways.

[@araylaurence6220]

the video time stamps are messed up, 1080p raster is labeled 1080p raytracing, 1080p mixed is labeld 1080 raster, and 1080p raytracing is labeled 1080p mixed. the same goes for 1440p in the same order.

[@paulbrooks4395]

Price seems about right. The buyer who plays games that aren’t mainstream or DX12 does risk games not loading, being very slow, or having unforeseeable issues. I wish Intel had fully embraced the software compatibility aspect, as these issues simply make last gen AMD and Nvidia more attractive.

[@HoustonPlaysGames]

It’s honestly incredible what Intel has managed with their driver updates. The GPU market is going to be very interesting in the next ~5 years

[@eliadbu]

While the performance has significantly improved, it is still a mixed bag and not consistent enough. Maybe in a year or so, we will get to the consistency level of the competitors, but I guess by then, we will have Battlemage as a direct replacement.

[@QuentinStephens]

I'm very glad to see you testing the A750 properly. I've criticised you before for not including Arc so I'm pleased to see you rectify that. I have an A770 and really haven't experienced the problems you have but then I mostly game on my RTX 4090, playing Far Cry (the original) on my A770 because it works there but won't on my 4090. I do have two questions: first, did you check VRAM usage? I wonder if the A750 is using more VRAM than the other GPUs and that might affect results. Second, news has just come out that Sparkle are now selling a 16 GB A770 for $299, allegedly with a mild overclock; how does that change your evaluation? Would I recommend an A750? Probably not: I'd recommend a RX 6600 or similar card to most people, unless there were a particular need for an Arc card. Arc Alchemist bodes well for Arc Battlemage; let's see Intel bring real competition to Nvidia next year.

[@fuzzydunlop7154]

In the UK, this card is slightly more expensive than a 6650XT and slightly less expensive than an RTX 3060. but both of those cards are still way more appealing to me within this price range. At this point in time, you're gonna have fewer headaches if you just stick with AMD or Nvidia.

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

Basically, it's a great value budget 1440p card, and a770 even 4k

[@mikoldeon]

Thank you so much for revisiting A750's performance! Could I ask for Final Fantasy XIV performance metrics as well in the future tests? They have Endwalker benchmark for that. :)

[@jasonh4534]

How does the A770 performance compare to the A750? I am seeing the A770 listed for $250 with a two game bundle. I have some people asking me what the best GPU is in the $200-300 price range. That is for the 8gb version, so I don’t know if it would be viable… But for only a bit more, you do get more performance, in theory at least. And if you are interested in the games they have bundled, it could be an option.

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

It's good that Intel is sticking with it, they're really improving their drivers it seems. Maybe in the next 2 gens they'll be competitive. I've head rumours of the next gen being as powerful as the 4080 but I have serious doubts lol. But that's the kind of performance I'm looking for so if they can release something like that next year for half the price I'd give it a go

[@ryanspencer6778]

4080 is probably a little out of reach, but I think the 4070ti isn't. 4070ti is about as good as a 3090, and A770 is in between the 3060ti and 3070, while not making efficient use of it's transistor count. If the B770 has twice the Xe cores of A770 as rumored, and Battlemage is a more effective architecture, then yeah. I can see 3090 level performance being reasonable to hit. Perhaps even beyond that.

[@LlywellynOBrien]

I am actually incredibly impressed with that RT performance. To have the same scaling with or without suggests shockingly robust methods for a first go.

[@DKTD23]

With the latest driver boost I'm glad to see this video being released showing the progress and competition. Intel still has a lot of work to do with DX11 games, and they seem committed through the rest of this year on working on it. It's wild how much their driver was gimping their Arc cards because it had been originally optimized for their iGPU's. We should see some more respectable gains coming.

[@ganthrithor]

Looks like a solid entry-level card for people who want to buy new! Will you do the A770 next? That will be interesting to see as well. Nice to see a card with a reasonable pricetag and 16GB of VRAM for people who can't afford to shell out for a 4070 / 7700XT or better. Also, shallow commentary here but I really like the simple visual design of the ARC cards... I like seeing graphics cards that just look like a graphics card in today's market :D Other manufacturer's aesthetic choices are getting out of hand-- and I'm sure adding unnecessary costs.

[@premnaidu4254]

Thank you for this video. I hope future benchmarks include - Remnant II and Ratchet & Clank : Rift Apart because both are known to be very demanding games and would tell us if the GPU's are future proof.

[@MichaelPohoreski]

Testing _Remnant 2_ (UE5.0), _Satisfactory_ (UE5.1), and _Immortal of Aveum_ (UE5.1) is going to become extremely important as more UE games are released.

[@nukedathlonman]

Still think I'd pick the RX 6600 XT or RX 6650 XT first, but I can say that I am impressed - Intel has come a long way (though still have a bit to go). I have no doubt Intel will continue to refine and improve those drivers - looking forward to seeing Battlemage. 🙂

[@ApocDevTeam]

I really hope Intel continues to stand behind Arc and invest in future generations of dedicated GPU's, there is genuine potential here for the GPU market to finally get a third big competitor. They seem to have overcome a lot of the issues that came with being new to the market. But I also get the feeling they probably lost a lot of money in this first generation. I'm scared they're going to ditch it if they feel it won't work out in the long run (seeing how Intel has been killing off many branches of their products, everything from SSD's to Nuc's).

[@shankroidbeast4644]

The latest drivers for the Intel Arc GPU's was released 9/7/2023. They are constantly working and improving the performance of these cards with updates. Will probably go with the a770 for my next build. The cost/performance value is hard to ignore.

[@BuzzKiller23]

I'm excited to see Intel doing well with their GPUs. I really hope they can shake up the market with their next gen cards.

[@TheStoff1975]

Wouldn't a A770 be a better comparison, price wise? or has that already been done?

[@slimal1]

I'm wondering the same. I don't see the point of this video

[@saricubra2867]

No, because the GPU part itself isn't fast enough to justify the cost.

[@cecilb7927]

With the A750 holding its own against 7000 and 4000 seriese competition it really makes me wonder what Battlemage will do.

[@Towik]

I went from MSI R9 290 to ASRock A750, so far a great difference but the most annoying thing is shortcuts (that cannot be turned off - Arc Control) and Arc control being really lacking stuff. Games that barely run 60FPS at 1080p (R9 290-250W), now run at 60FPS with only like 45-90W (A750). for example maxed WoT doesn't go above 75W at 1080p It's a good GPU, i bought it for 220$ or so (1200PLN with VAT)

[@bradhaines3142]

im just curious how arc is with older games. i know they mentioned that was a lot of what the had to sacrifice for good drivers on current games, is just not even trying to get older games to work

[@chooka003]

Interesting video! Thanks Steve 👍🏻 We desperately need more competition to drive down prices.

[@shuntao3475]

Thank you for the Updated Video... In Jan and April of this year, I built 2 new Computers using the Arc A770 (for $300). The first game for my daughter and I to play was Hogwarts. We were Both very happy with the performance and have ZERO complaints. Sure, the Numbers say slower... But I really could not tell the difference in play, from my friends 306ti and the A770. In the End, I am VERY happy with the performance and price for the cards. The extra VRAM and Intel's commit to make better drivers and this Latest Benchmarks, say I am good for 2 years. For the record, I originally planned to install a 4070ti, until Intel released the Pricing. A GPU should not cost more than then the whole system combined and need to be replaced every 3-4 years. My first GeForce card from the EVGA 260 (Leaving ATI behind for good), and I purchased for me, son or daughter every card, up to the 2060 super (skipped the 1060).

[@lixnix2018]

For 220€ or less you can also get a 6650xt

[@vextakes]

Btw, Control doesn’t give the option for DX12 on my 5700xt either Might be like if the GPU “doesn’t support rt” then it doesn’t give the option It must be buggy with arc then. Idk

[@StalewindFarto]

I've both Arc cards ATM. For the price they are pretty damn good, but they can't do multi monitor setups with different resolutions well. Straight 1440p seems to be where they (770 and 750) operate best. I paid the full 350usd for the 770 last year, but the 750 was had cheap at 150 because it was open box. It still performs like a champ at its' price tier!

[@rohanchooramun7288]

Well, this a perfect video showing how these lower bandwidth Gpus are bottlenecked at higher resolutions.

[@oldmanwithers4565]

I have had both a750 and a770. Both were good cards giving good fps and nice picture quality. Only issues ive had was some corrupted texture in star trek online. Idle power consumption was a problem until i found the fix on intels site.

[@soulshinobi]

It would be helpful to visualize the difference between these cards by having a basic chart with them all side by side with specs for the memory subsystems and the price, etc.

[@刹那-g7c]

In a meeting with parents and teachers from various schools in my city, a big boost was given to Intel under the argument: "my children come to learn, not to play", 2500 ARC units were sold. No problems after 4 months. The price in units (gaming/gamers) can be significant but in large quantities the difference and preference is abysmal.

[@gamestech9016]

I just got the Gigabyte 4060 Windforce OC. It's not bad at all, better than my old 1660Ti. I got it for £295 UK. It plays halo inf pretty well so far. I also scored 20,800 points of performance test benchmark, and i checked the avg was around 18/19k points.

[@AlyxSharkBite-2000]

Built 2 Arc system one for friend, Core i5-13400F / A770 other for his son Core i3-12100F / Arc A750. Both perform well built recently so post most driver issues. Only issue recently is in BG3 if in Vulkan was getting some texture issues, but went away with BG3 Patch 1. So currently nothing they play is having any issues (BG3, Destiny 2, FF14, WoW are their main games)

[@Valfaun]

i'm still very fond of my A770 LE and its beautiful RGB lighting, but i hope that Intel can manifest the next generation sooner rather than later, before any improvements they can realistically achieve get outpaced by AMD and Nvidia

[@ff00005]

A770LE owner here, "it's not all smooth sailing but it does get there in the end" sums up my experience very well. I use the GPU at 4K and sure, FPS > 90 is rare, but Adaptive Sync is a true miracle at masking that. There has been no game where I didn't eventually forget I was using a "public Beta" GPU and found myself just enjoying the game. With that said, I do enjoy tweaking settings, and I enjoy the occasional polygon -- no matter how hard they try, games still look like games (if you don't want to see polygons, go outside!).

[@scottcoburn7528]

I bought my adult daughter an A750 for the computer I built her. World War Z is pretty much broken on the A750, and has been since launch. I remember discovering it and I was able to find one review (don't remember offhand who reviewed it) that used World War Z as a benchmark, and their experience was the same as what I was seeing. While Intel professes that it prioritized it's time with modern API's (DX12, and Vulkan), it seems like either the game or the driver is causing an issue whereby you can't select Vulkan as the renderer. Either the game doesn't recognize the GPU's capabilities or the driver isn't reporting them to the game properly. In DX11, the game is a mess. First off, the CPU usage goes to 100% on a Ryzen 7 3900X. I don't know what the game is doing and this in the menu as well. I thought it might be precompiling shaders, but it never seems to finish. Then if you run the built in benchmark, the performance is horrible. It stutters something awful due to the aforementioned CPU usage. With the CPU usage that high, the GPU usage only gets to something south of 30%. Beyond the stuttering mess, there is artifacting as well, with flashing visual elements. With each new driver release, I check to see if they've fixed it, no luck. All of her other games work pretty well.

[@chrislee8970]

How about an A770 vs 4060 comparison, since they're more in the same price range? The 770 would have an advantage, at least on paper, with 16GB at the ~$300 USD point.

[@BrightPage174]

The intel GPUs have so much potential. So excited to see what they bring with gen 2 or perhaps a 790 SKU 👀

[@Zxanonblade]

They might also call the top SKU the "990" or something (since their lowest is the a380). I have no idea what determines having a 3 or a 7 at the front lol

[@EnvAdam]

A770 gang, ive had my A770 since last year, been quite happy.

[@darkbunglex]

Great to see merch!... Oh wait, not available in Australia? FFS that's a slap in the face 😂

[@BenRichman-f1c]

Great video overall, however I did just want to mention I'm not the biggest fan of the new highlight transitions on benchmark graphs. I personally find them to be a bit distracting, so would appreciate your consideration in reverting back to the old method.

[@NocturnEternal]

When I was ordering components for my Raptor Lake build (yes I chose i5-13600K), I saw an Intel bundle for the Arc A750 and i5-13600K for $520 on Newegg at the time. I had a spare RTX 3060 12GB but after giving eVGA the shaft and butchering the 4060, I was disillusioned by NVIDIA and went straight full Intel. Yeah I was dealing with the teething problems of Arc but Intel always listened and assisted with not just workarounds but good driver updates. Over time, Arc has gotten better. It still has a ways to go, but the outlook is promising. Like many, I hope for good things with Battlemage.

[@emrahgumussoyy]

I have been using Arc 750 for about 10 months. The only game I played was RDR 2. It was generally good for video editing and rendering needs, but my comment about RDR 2 as a member of the Y generation who has been away from games for years: it could have been better. For the last 3 months, updates have been coming almost every 20 days. But I don't know what the latest situation is. Despite the 37% price difference in Turkey, I bought a 4060 and watched the test video while waiting for the shipment. Your camera provides very impressive images, I was curious about the lens and camera model.

[@MegaGimmler]

Its really nice to see how far Intel has come with their drivers. I hope they will continue with GPU's and improve further, so we will eventually have a third player on the market.

[@andrewt9204]

I just bought an A750 on Friday to test it out this weekend for a friends potential budget build. I have the A380 as a rendering card using QuickSync and it seemed OK in the little bit of game testing on lowest settings I did with that. The potential of the A750 seemed good so I thought I'd give it a whirl. It did ok, the 1% lows were noticeable in a couple games. My main complaint was in Diablo 2 Resurrected. It was missing a lot of textures and a few flashing box glitches. They still have some driver issues to sort out based on your testing and mine. Not sure I'm going to keep this A750 sadly. I'll probably go with the 6600XT.

[@Reedg333]

Steve is one of the only guys I’ve seen that always wears a hoodie yet roles the sleeves all the way above his elbows. I respect it 🫡

[@NineS5]

I would like to pick up an Intel Arc card, but they're more expensive than a 6650xt here in Europe and I mostly play older titles. I wonder how well this card runs with DXVK.

[@terryforsythe8083]

Great analysis, as always! It is great to see Intel coming along with driver support. Since the Arc A770 is closer in price to the RTX 4060 and RX 7600, I would rather see results for it, though. (As of today the Arc A770 can be purchased on NewEgg for $249.99, with Assassin's Creed Mirage & Nightingale Game Bundle).

[@FoxxFire]

Steve these are NOT THE RESULTS that LTT has given with updated A750 drivers!! Stop regurgitating old benchmarks and passing them as new. You're comparing apples to old oranges, and we as a community will not stand for it! Lol, j/k of course. I'm loving the new podcast by the way (perhaps you can tell i've listened to the first one :). They really help pass the time on my drive to work. Hope you guys keep 'em coming.

[@maverickvgc4220]

At least we know that there's a decent offering when the 6650XT stock dries up.

[@OdiumDei2]

A750 consumes ~165 Watts under full load, 4060 is ~125 Watts. That's 40 Watts more heat going into your room while getting ~20% less performance on average. I don't consider 40 Watts to be a negligible amount of power draw. That and that alone would ALWAYS make the A750 a complete non-option for me, personally. Using the 4060 as the baseline, investing ~30% more power to get 20% less performance is just not a good deal. I have also heard that the 4060 had extreme power issues in idle upon launch, drawing more than 20 watts when it was basically supposed to shut down. Those are things i would love to be pointed out more in reviews, in general. In my humble opinion, if you buy a GPU to run 4k at reasonable rates you will have to accept that it will draw a lot of power - there is no way around that with current technology. But at the low/low-mid range level of GPUs power efficiency should really shine. I mean, this is the tier of current level GPUs that get clocked/stripped down - they SHOULD be extremely power efficient.

[@coin777]

Why not the arc A770? that's closer to the 4060 price?

[@RotNcroch]

For their 1st release of a gpu Intel is doing a great job. I am really looking forward to their next generation of gpu’s.

[@GS-kh5se]

I have a A770 16GB. It delivers a solid 60fps for sim racing at 4k on iracing, acc, am2, dirt rally 2, rfactor and race room.

[@duckdictator6531]

Will you test the A770? I’m really thinking about the 16gb A770 but I am also considering waiting for Battlemage

[@Taorakis]

I bought an A770 to try out some games, and the performance it can, and then on the other hand can't deliver is fun to behold. Forza Horizon 5 runns in Ultra at 4k (and i am running a Ryzen 3600), with some hitches, but small ones, switch on the superb looking XESS to quality and it runs smoooooth. But playing the 23 years old Mafia 2 (non """remastered""" version), there are stutters everywhere! And yes i am aware it has trouble with DX9 or whatever that is, but seriously, it's sooooo old. They really should just skip their translation layer and map DX9 and 10 games to Vulkan by default or something like that.

[@flightsimdev9021]

Great review, it really what I have been looking for, I own the A750, I have issues in GTA5 online only, game doesn't run very well and crashes more than you get gameplay, apart from that I have Forza Horizon 5 and get a solid 100fps with rays on and Xe on as well. I love the cards I had the 1080ti before it.

[@user-bn8rf1nw1h]

so a 4060 is a 20% performance bump while charging 45% more money. rx 6600 vs a750 would be interesting since they are at the same price rn.

[@nach0x]

I wish the Intel drivers keep improving also extend the support to older games, because right now, the green and red team are the only one with proper support for order games

[@TalonsTech]

Intel has managed this on it's FIRST generation desktop GPUs after some serious driver work and updates. Imagine how far Intel will be in a few gens or even next gen. AMD and Nvidia better watch out, a new player is in the game.

[@jernaugurgeh451]

I would've liked to have seen power usage comparisons included... from what I've seen elsewhere, the A750 draws almost twice as much power as the 4060. Something to be considered for those on a budget in places like here in the UK with eyewatering energy prices.

[@spoots1234]

They were basically giving the A750 and the A380 away in CPU bundles, costing about $160 and $60 respectively. Can't complain for that kind of money.

[@TechnoLadz]

Could I ask why the 7600 did so bad in Callisto Protocol at 1440p compared to the 4060 - and especially in comparison to the 1080p results?