Intel NUC 13 Pro Review (i7-1360P, 32GB, 1TB)

[@akin242002]

I recently got this. A little Wi-Fi issues, but that was Windows 11 OS issue. Not the hardware. Runs great once fully configured. I highly recommend it to anyone wanting a home computer work setup and either games on a console or does not game at all. Work from home accountants, underwriters, data analysts, data engineers, and programmers in Python/Ruby/Scala.

[@Gazereths1234]

Great review. A beast for multicore stuff. These Nucs/mini PC's always tempt me for a laptop replacement, but then I remember I have to pack a M/KB as well as a power brick. But to get that performance on a laptop would probably be 2x the cost.

[@sp1011]

M/KB?

[@GigaChadL337]

@@sp1011 Mother / Kevin Burgess

[@fradd182]

The moment ive realized that im always using external monitor, both in the office and at home, is the moment when i decided to ditch the laptop and buy mini-pc, for my developer job. So, i bought Asrock 4x4 box v1000m, with Ryzen 1605B CPU (4c/8T). Not as powerful as this Intel but still plenty of power inside, practically inaudible, cost me less than 400$ with 32GB of RAM and 500GB Nvme.

[@philscomputerlab]

Nice!

[@HZL_AD]

i dunno why ..everytime heard your voice Phil .. my head keep on singing your famous remark [ 1024 times 768 ] ..1024x768 ..1024x768 ..1024x768 When come to said 1024x768..No one in youtube can beat your style .

[@guessundheit6494]

I've never heard anything bad about NUCs. I have a NUC11 THNi3, no problems whatsoever. Three USB3.2 ports, 3.0GHz processor, 16GB RAM, Ubuntu 22.04. In more than six months, NOTHING has lagged or locked up. I'm nowhere near straining the system even with multiple applications running simultaneously (50+ browser tabs, Libre Office, etc.).

[@saitejagatadi9711]

Woah

[@kaczan3]

Nice box, but does it run... oh, nevermind.

[@eusebiosksipolitos2524]

... Crysis...

[@MrPruske]

12:45 XD

[@megadog_]

Nice timing on this review, I have one of these on the way right now (actually the i5 Desk Edition Kit). I'm planning on using it as a Linux daily driver. Looks like I made a good choice.

[@mattscomp]

I love mini PC's. Especially Intel NUC. My favourite solution when someone is looking at an All in One PC. I really hate those machines with a passion. They bring the worst aspects of laptops to desktop PC's. NUC is a great alternative. At least you have some flexibility with upgrades, servicing etc.. While client is happy not to have tower in the way. As you pointed out in video you can vesa mount it to back of a monitor or on a wall, under desk etc..

[@3dfxvoodoocards6]

Nice! I always liked mini PCs.

[@pazitor]

Nice to hear the name "NUC" spoken aloud. As I live in a Spanish-speaking area, I'd been misreading it as "nook", not "nuck". Anyway, nice machine! I'm hoping Intel's work on ARC will make its iGPUs even better in future so we can use a NUC as a console with fewer limitations on settings. When that day comes, I'll stop using a desktop. Thanks Phil.

[@philscomputerlab]

To be honest I am not sure how to pronounce it either, I checked a few other videos and just went with this :D

[@BenState]

Its pronounced NOOK by Intel.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

In a land without Computex, a NUC is reviewed. If you had come, I'd set up a Windows 98 PC on the show floor for you!

[@hadespaganism2405]

Thank you for the great review and I am getting an Intel nuc 13 pro with this configuration, and I really can't afford a big fancy gaming desktop computer. The Intel NUC 13 pro with the i7-1360p will be fine for my older games on Steam, and here is the NUC I am getting next month. Intel NUC 13 Pro NUC13ANHi7 Mini PC, Intel i7-1360P, 64GB RAM + 4TB NVMe Gen 4 5,000 MB/s + Intel Iris Xe Graphics, WiFi 6E, Windows 11 Pro (64GB RAM + 4TB NVMe) Thanks again, and I subscribed to your channel and gave the video a thumbs up 👍

[@Club_Michas]

Kingston NV2 is actually the bottom line of Kingston NVME SSDs, they are okay, but bear in mind it is TLC NAND and the Read/Write speed of up to 3,500/2,800MB/s which is the Level of PCIe 3.0, while the NVM2 is PCIe 4.0 I put a 2TB Kingston NV2 as a Second drive in my main PC and never intended to use it as my Primary SSD due to lack of Cache, but cheap in terms of Pricing.

[@philscomputerlab]

Thanks for pointing this out!

[@garyb7193]

Not a bad Intel NUC but the new 2023 Beelink GTR7 is the one to beat. The Beelink GTR7 has Phoenix Ryzen 7 7940HS Zen4 cpu 8c/16t 5.2ghz, a Radeon 780M RDNA3 iGPU, dual 2.5G lan, HDMI @ 2.1, 4k/120, 8k/60, DDR5 max 64Gb, USB4 40Gbps, x2 PCIE4 m.2 2280, HW enc/dec AV1, x265, x264. Powered from 35w to a 65w TDP. With a Fire Strike score of 7518 and Night Raid score of 30,429, this thing is a beast!

[@waldorg2010]

An equivalent Asus Zenbook laptop with an I7-13700h (newer and better), OLED display and keyboard has more flexibility and right now is cheaper ($799). Plus you get the quality, warranty and support from a mayor manufacturer. This mini pc should be priced in the $500 to 600 range to be competitive. Is a good device if you need desk space.

[@polaris911]

$1000?! that's a non-starter for me dawg

[@jothain]

​@@DoNotSayThreejust build compact pc yourself and get much better value.

[@budgetking2591]

@@jothain but its gonna be 4x bigger.

[@jothain]

@@budgetking2591 And possibly 4x more graphics performance

[@DerekDavis213]

Great review! Super clear 1440p video is much appreciated.

[@baumstamp5989]

the processor is really strong. it's almost sad that there dont exist integrated graphics that can properly complement this cpu (or the 1370p) in a modern gaming environment. but you could always use external GPU, although i never used one and am somehow opposed to doing so. this means gpu engineers have some more efficiency tuning to do :)))

[@jondonnelly3]

Intergrated graphics are stronger on ASUS new handheld gaming machine comming out and its cheaper than this. All u need is a usbc dock and your sorted.

[@hwasylum]

usb not TB?

[@Kenny_Ded]

Nice little machine, but what I found most interesting was 86Box. I didn't know this project existed. Are you planning on doing a video about 86Box?

[@philscomputerlab]

PCem is planned first. But yes, will cover 86Box!

[@robert-yates]

@@philscomputerlab maybe also add dosbox-x to the list, this one is designed for emulating windows versions also. i would be interested how that compares to 86box

[@yuan.pingchen3056]

I prefer HP EliteDesk G9 TWR equipped i5-12500 DDR5 version, it can adds up to 3 SATA3 3.5" drive 1 SATA SSD(mounted by double side sticker), NVME SSD, good thermal conditions, and no need to worry about OS selection to support BIG.little thread director issue.

[@NuwanW]

Great review! I use them as home-servers, with the add-on for a secondary NIC, it can even be a great firewall, along with Hyper-V, the DC role and much more.

[@zavedhussain2429]

Nice box. Especially crisis got some stutter. Try a ryzen mini pc possibly 5 or 7 soon.

[@Rickcrafted]

would you recommend this for a graphics designer and a web developer?

[@sarcasmo57]

Thanks for the interesting review.

[@jfitzpatrick6108]

Thank you for a thorough, detailed review. It was a pleasure to watch.

[@daazel776]

Very helpful review, thank you! How about noise of this NUC, are you measured sound level? I am not gaming at all, but still afraid of high speed fan level and higher noise than current almost silent laptop.

[@serjd11]

Thanks for the review. Does a double sided nvme fit properly?

[@itstheweirdguy]

Shadow of the Tomb Raider runs pretty good here. Nvidia and AMD better look out, if given enough time, Intel is a serious threat, even if it takes 5 more years.

[@esra_erimez]

Great review. Although, I think that $999 is a bit much for an i7

[@RuruFIN]

I have the same SSD as a system drive, a pretty solid option for a cheap NVMe drive :)

[@scytob]

I have 3 of these in a proxmox cluster using thunderbolot for replication / ceph.

[@rafalo2323]

how did you do that?

[@telecamfilms]

Nice review! Question... do I need to buy a wired USB mouse and keyboard for initial setup or is there a way to connect my existing BT mouse and keyboard?

[@philscomputerlab]

Food question! I always use wireless USB mouse and keyboard. So I'm not sure...

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

But can it play... Loom EGA?

[@philscomputerlab]

LOL

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

@@philscomputerlab 👍

[@cuentacasa]

Have you checked what would be the watts consumption from the wall for the whole systw in idle? That's interesting for many people needing it for 24x7 operation.

[@philscomputerlab]

Good point, usually I test this, but forgot this time. I'll test it and update to this comment!

[@philscomputerlab]

So I just used the power meter and, well, it's amazing! Now, it does take a bit for the machine to settle down. But when it's not doing anything, it sits at 11 Watts power consumption. It does spike up quickly as soon as you use it, or if it's doing something in the background.

[@cuentacasa]

@@philscomputerlab thanks! This lools like a very good kit for 24x7 operation

[@levimelodythemysticlevi9213]

Can you tell me what would be a good mini pc for music production.

[@kiba3x]

I will love if you include emulator performance too.

[@markstevens6406]

Seems like a nice bit of hardware, but why bog it down with Windows? It's not like it'll be used for serious gaming.

[@IMPULZEiV]

I’m considering this as a student. How will 32gig ram work with revit?

[@MrPir84free]

Too bad that Intel could not be bothered with using DDR5.. Some of their competitors' products certainly do.

[@MarcosCodas]

Been hankering after one for years, but I need an AMD APU. The performance differential and driver support really make AMD the only option for my workload/ application.

[@philscomputerlab]

I will be testing one with 6900 APU. It has 8 cores but the highlight is the graphics. It's a big step up from the older Mini PCs I've tested...

[@MarcosCodas]

@@philscomputerlab I’m looking at something similar so I will hold off until your review is out. Thank you for the heads up!

[@SmallBoxCentral]

Great review!

[@krazownik3139]

In my opinion that stuttering in Crisis isn't the fault of iGPU. It's seems to be a scheduler issue. Crisis was written with promised Intel single-core 10GHz CPUs in mind (which never happened due to ending of Dennard scaling), so it tanks only the single thread. But modern Intel CPUs are on BIGlittle architecture, so probably scheduler mishandle game thread moving it to e-core from time to time (it's a common issue with it). I bet that after disabling e-cores in UEFI the game would run much smoother.

[@jadhal6649]

Those thunderbolt port support Ext GPU ?

[@youzernejm]

Hope you'll get a Ryzen 7 6800H box for the test, that one probably has the most powerful gpu of all mini PCs

[@philscomputerlab]

There will a review of a Mini PC with 6900HX in the near future.

[@UrosR]

Thanks for showing the BIOS settings. Can the M.2 SATA drive be selected as boot drive as well?

[@philscomputerlab]

Good question, I will test and let you know!

[@philscomputerlab]

Hi! I wanted to test this just now, but realised I didn't have a M.2 SSD. They are all NVME.

[@ricky4673]

Have you tasted a 7080hs mini? I would assume not.

[@richardsmith4992]

"it runs on a potato..." had me in stitches. Would run better on a dual core potato?

[@jaapvander3787]

this is for sale in the Netherlands for 659 euros. Bit much. For 300 euros you can buy a beast of a used HP workstation.

[@jimw7916]

DECEPTIVE review! ........ there are many mini PCs out right now that beat this unit HANDS DOWN!

[@jimw7916]

@TorchCTI its plain to see ..... you are paid by intel

[@akin242002]

It's still a good mini-PC. Especially for quality build and ports. For CPU/iGPU/RAM, there are better choices. MinisForum UM790, MinisForum NPB7, BeeLink GTR7, and Geekom IT13 with the i9 H series CPU.

[@LeicaM11]

My Intel NUC 11 already had a NVME 4.0 (PCI-E 4.0) m.2 slot and achieves 7GB/s! Does your Intel NUC not have PCI-E 4.0? I still,hope, Intel is going to release the NUC girlie with i7-1370p. But, as there were no one with i7-1280P, my hope is weak.

[@BlueAngelo]

I do not recommend the Intel NUC, the components are very close together, it gets too hot and the components melt. Then Intel does not want to take over the warranty. This review is not very realistic...

[@tomiluukkonen4035]

Sadly NUC's are way over-priced in Europe, and last nails (regarding gaming) are known Intel GPU-driver issues. If many DX9 Win32-games don't work properly or at all - no amount of CPU-power will help. You can as well buy cheap 2010-18 standard office PC and add amd/nvidia GPU to it = no driver problems with DX9-games. Intel network-chips/drivers are top-notch, so these are great for networking. But not for any kind of retro-gaming with DX7/DX9, dosbox-games are most likely fine I suppose?

[@federicocatelli8785]

It's not cheap but there are external GPU enclosure (most use thunderbolt or usb-c)

[@tomiluukkonen4035]

@@federicocatelli8785 External dock for another GPU kind of kills the idea of NUC? Because NUC (or SFF) itself is a good idea, but it should be small/functional without excessive externals beyond cabling. This NUC seems to be just fine, even excellent in most user-cases. But because of Intel's poor GPU-drivers, it just ain't good for any kind of DX7/DX9-retrogaming 😪

[@federicocatelli8785]

@@tomiluukkonen4035 External docks ain't that big (some are)...they are a valid alternative for those who want/need upgreadable "desktop" GPU performance

[@guillermocastro6599]

Hi, thank you for the review. Do you know if on board hdmi can reach 4k 120fps? Thank you

[@philscomputerlab]

Not HDMI, but through USB 4 ports up to 8k60.

[@Tom-zr5ct]

Buddy, how do u think will Samsung 980 Pro with heatsink fit?

[@3dhYT]

I prefer cheap Mini PCs.

[@josueb3844]

I wonder how this compares to the Mac mini I’m in between these for my graphic /digital designing

[@kirankvasu]

Do you know if there is a capacity limit if I have to upgrade the SSD? Will it take a 4TB drive?

[@philscomputerlab]

I don't think there is limit!

[@saileshagarwal]

Hello! Can we power this up from the monitor using a USB C cable?

[@anulearntech]

what is the 8842 form factor SSD? are there any such SSDs available and what are the sizes?

[@emlyndewar]

I wish they’d get these on to DDR5.

[@MrPerrisC]

Find out if the expansion bay can take a GPU, that will be the deal maker for a good percentage

[@stephenxs8354]

You need to test a Ryzen 7xxx series mini-pc if you want CPU performance and GPU performance.

[@federicocatelli8785]

Or "simply" get external GPU👍

[@snotspat]

You just missed testing Diablo IV. :P Does the NUC support external GPUs through the Thunderbolt?

[@MnemonicCarrier]

Is the rDNA2 iGPUs on the AMD miniPCs better than the iGPU in the Intel gen 13 miniPCs?

[@kenjaws7066]

yes by miles and recommended to be paired with higher ram speed. i saw a video about 680M comparison between DDR5-4800 and 5600 and the difference is massive! Rdna3 780 is even better but since I don't need that kinda form factor for extra portability, I'd get myself a sff pc with a dGPU for lower price and higher performance. Still, what AMD offers over the years just amazes me and I'm looking something from intel cuz competition is always good for us consumers :)

[@MnemonicCarrier]

@@kenjaws7066 Nice one - thanks. I'm probably gonna get something with the Ryzen 7 6800H or 7535H. I want something that's quiet too. These miniPCs are very cool!

[@kyfeam]

wow that price.. i just bought a ACE Magician mini PC with a AMD Ryzen 5 5625U for $260.. 16GB ram 512GB NVmE SSD.. over 1k for this.. nope..

[@ThrakaAndy]

I want to find a a nuc style pc thats cheap and can handle 86box win98 gaming. That would be the ultimate dedicated dos win machine. Vga out would make it even better!! Finding the sweet price to power ratio combination. I would love to see more machines tested with 86box.

[@Line-Ways]

Tomb raider without Ray Tracing is Tomb raider without the Shadow

[@aymanalhasan7782]

Is it better than beelink gtr6 ryzen 9?

[@kudre7]

Amazon promo code is not working. Thanks for the detail video.

[@Line-Ways]

We dont need the fastest we need the Socket 7 version which can be downgraded to 386/486 level by turning off the cache

[@lars4065]

Should be compared with the recently released AMD-based Minisforum PCs...

[@velvs]

They missed an amazing opportunity to create the greatest PFSense box by only putting a single Ethernet port on this device!

[@philscomputerlab]

I guess that's what the expansion bay could be used for?

[@velvs]

@@philscomputerlab Maybe, but the cutout looks a bit too slim for a RJ45 jack.

[@philscomputerlab]

@@velvs I've seen photos of an expansion with 2 USB on either side and ethernet in the center. But not sure about availability, they seem a bit hard to find.

[@BenState]

Way too overpowered. Nothing close to this is required for pfsense, especially in a home environment or even a SME.

[@velvs]

@@BenState people even use xeons for pfsense, this could be a low power alternative with single digit CPU usage.

[@MonamiTech]

I think 3DMark charts should only display graphic scores.

[@Neil-Aspinall]

Wiil you test a i9 version?

[@jinxterx]

Looks cool but too expensive.

[@kkgt6591]

Can you please test an external gpu with it?

[@philscomputerlab]

I can't, don't have the gear...

[@chintanpatel6582]

@philscomputerlab can I run 4 screen with this machine ? 2 via HDMI Port and 2 Via Thunderbolt to HDMI Converter ?

[@philscomputerlab]

Yes!

[@granules2919]

This is good for office work applications...

[@philscomputerlab]

MS Office 97!

[@bemutatoktesztek4163]

The Cpu very good but the Igpu is very weak. why!

[@deltaKilo-M]

May USB 3.2 gen 2 also transfer videodata for monitor?

[@jothain]

Quite bad performance/money ratio. Though if one really, really needs minipc it's quite cool. But I'd built compact pc with that money and get actual gpu performance.

[@bemutatoktesztek4163]

Someone tell the intel company that we want a fast integrated gpu. At least as fast as the amd 780m.

[@erlaf2833]

10:48 He compares this box with the Ryzen 5000 and even with even much the more chiapest Ser 4, when the Ryzen 7940 came out in April, which this intel is no match for and which is exactly in that top price category. And he praises so much. Why not with pentium 3 500mhz? Holiness would be even more outstanding.

[@philscomputerlab]

Mate, I compare to what I have at hand. You really think we have every single product at hand?

[@erlaf2833]

@@philscomputerlab Yes, that's what I thought. The name of your channel screams about it. Seems that "lab" not grown enough yet. Good luck with that.

[@paparansen]

best for what? for sure not for gaming ;-) minisforum rdna3 apus best for that.

[@philscomputerlab]

Best one I've tested so far :D

[@paparansen]

@@philscomputerlab ok :D

[@larrybreavman4864]

It's a PC with a good processor but mediocre graphics and very expensive (almost $ 1.000). For almost a half of its price, you can get a new PC AMD based with a more powerful Radeon 780/680M graphics.

[@fra4455]

Great✌

[@larrbaII]

I have the I5 version of this NUC and wounder how it stacks up? any comment is welcome. I have 16 Gig's crurchil ram @ 3200 and a Samsung 990 pro W/ heat sink 1Ter. running Linux 21.1 OS. Why i ask is that running Linux on this NUC is overkill and i do not have a Windows OS to bleed my time with.

[@Tom-zr5ct]

How did you fit samsung 990 pro with heatsink?

[@larrbaII]

@@Tom-zr5ct I removed the X-tra SDD 3.5 drive bay ( as seen (3:46), It allowed me to fit it in. I have the tall NUC 13

[@Tom-zr5ct]

@@larrbaII You've just unscrewed the screws without dancing with a tambourine? And the heatsink of the ssd doesn't touch the connectors, wich are on the video 05:21 ? cauz I'm afraid of the width also, not onlz height...

[@larrbaII]

@@Tom-zr5ct It has it's own heat sink,. I took out the x-tra cage.

[@summerxia9027]

tuesday surprise !

[@filipetmarcal]

I like reviews

[@LovingLego]

how about Dota2 ?

[@brunospfc8511]

Horrible Cost-Benefict, bad deal

[@MuhammadHosny0]

it's beating the i9-12900H tf

[@Super123456789Kuba]

That's probably my kinda PC for PCem/86Box, Perhaps even GTA V, to have more than just one Capable machine for this game. (In terms of High Graphics Settings and such.)

[@tinto278]

Big if true! 👀

[@Alegzander1990]

All for the low low price of 1000 smackaroos. Oh boy... 🙄

[@megadog_]

This is the fully loaded model. Going down to an i5 slim model will bring the price down. Go with the barebones kit and it’s even cheaper. I bought an i5 kit for a little over $500, plus 32 GB RAM for $60, and I already have an M.2 SSD to use.

[@BenState]

$1000 USD LOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL

[@Br0adCastYourS3lf]

12:45 "**BUT! Does it run Crysis?**" 💌🤟

[@harryshuman9637]

Holy crap, 12500 is better than my 5900X. I wish it had a full PCI-E port to connect to a GPU, I would replace my mobo/CPU/RAM with this kit in no time.

[@BenState]

PSU?

[@harryshuman9637]

@@BenState still need PSU to power the GPU

[@SaliouDiaw-e3f]

Hi for appliances you don't use i'll take it

[@2ndavenuesw481]

Expensive.