Intel's 10900K Stock Problem: Intel i9-10850K CPU Review & Benchmarks

[@GamersNexus]

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[@rudiansah9754]

🇺🇸USA🔗HOME + DATA.COM OK 👍

[@Angelcity1345]

Hi, may I know the tdp for the cpu's? are they the same?

[@gmt-yt]

Dude... shame on you! A wisk is not a creative culinary implement! Replace that with two dozen silicone spatulas, get rid of that floppy baster thing, and you'll be back on the path to maximum power draw.

[@RagathRRInc]

@Gamers Nexus Will we see other benchmarks for the same CPU's using the new nvidia cards?

[@quiescentavvenire7580]

I thought that said Warframe Mouse Mat for a second.

[@euphoria842]

Spatulas on the desk is getting me very excited for the Ampere coverage.

[@aclausenyt]

First thing I noticed as well!

[@MeowyBrigade]

Is there a word play I am missing?

[@yipshingho1510]

@@MeowyBrigade Go watch the Ampere release video

[@jaquan123ism]

QKVooDoo in the rtx 3000 Series reveal the gpu was hidden behind a cup full of spatulas

[@Wahinies]

Jesus deserves more spatulas

[@vyommestri548]

Can't wait to see the AMD bike on the table

[@brutalwang4106]

I'm not, it's an ugly bike :p

[@bananya6020]

i seriously don't get it.

[@Accuaro]

It's a trash bike component wise tbh

[@Accuaro]

@@_yuri Whch I have nothing against... except it's $300 which is WHY it's garbage

[@Katastra_]

I'm waiting for the GNSteve downhill POV footage. We need out of the box suspension performance! Do the cranks break on the first jump? Does it weigh 40lbs? Inquiring minds want to know!

[@alynoser]

Hmmm nice spatulas, you might need some more though, might help with speed improvements.

[@nathangamble125]

Yeah, he's got some nice RGB on them, but would definitely get more fps with a few extra.

[@Lishtenbird]

With Jensen picking it out of the oven and Steve laying spatula hints, we get more and more confirmations that RTX 3090 is, in fact, cake.

[@exponvaldese]

The cake is a lie

[@redrock425]

I wonder if it's pyrolytic? 🥵

[@Flaming1100]

3090ti Heisenberg edition "It just cooks".

[@Daepilin]

That's one expensive cake :D

[@tsukishiro70]

The cake is a lie. I thought you GNU?

[@tachikoma82]

This 10850K chip is now easily found for $399, which makes it an insane deal.

[@vam6677]

got mine for 300 lol thought I was missing out with the new ryzens till I saw their price tags cant beat a 10850k for 300

[@aarondotexe]

@@vam6677 damn! Where’d you get one for $300?

[@vam6677]

@@aarondotexe ebay lol was just browsing around for new CPUs and it caught my mind and I set a saved search for it, didn't know much about it yet but woke up to am email about a listing and one was going for 300 offered the guy 250 but no response so just bought it. I couldn't pass it up apparently he was asleep when I offered him 250 lol. I didn't even know it was that good of a deal at the time I just checked the sold items and saw that they don't really sell for under 400 so assumed it was

[@Demon09-_-]

@@vam6677 nice 300 is a steal I got a 10900kf delided and copper ihs for 389 they seem to sometimes pop up for the 10850k in the same config for around 380. the delid doesnt help as much as previous gens but I will take what I can get on cooling the 10 core chip lol

[@karlsison231]

where ? i new it's still 429

[@Zosu22]

Wait a minute this isn’t the AMD 4800U...

[@uchihasasuke7436]

I just got a g5 se with a 4800u and 5600m. I replaced the thermal paste the second I got it and the performance is fantastic!

[@Owl90]

What, but isn't that Intel's new processor?

[@uchihasasuke7436]

@@Owl90 huh?

[@levyroth]

Zosu never was

[@Grimmwoldds]

@@uchihasasuke7436 kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3erc5qYbriMZ7s

[@TwilitAssassin121]

Love you guys. I turned a friend to Steve and he felt so much more confident in building from scratch. Amazing work as always. Can't wait to see your 30 Series reviews!!

[@gleamnite]

If there's no difference in the silicon (null hypothesis), then why wouldn't Intel just ship these as 10900K, given the stock shortages? May suggest this is from the "borderline" / "fail" bins for 10900K performance.

[@Qual_]

@MZClips Yes I confirm, just received the 10900K today, purchased it 2 days ago on one of the biggest seller of the country for those kind of products (in France), I wasn't even aware of a shortage.

[@my-yt-inputs2580]

Interesting. I was going to suggest the same thing. Thought perhaps they may be having trouble "binning" the 10900k in quantities. But as the others have suggested it may not appear as a shortage in other places. Is it basic supply and demand or something else?

[@gleamnite]

@Rafael Herschel That doesn't explain why these weren't just sold as 10900K though; if the silicon was capable. Why even invent the further SKU, rather than just addressing 10900K shortages in those markets in which there is one.

[@bradley3549]

@@gleamnite Great question and I agree. Not a great sign for people looking to overclock, honestly.

[@Lowlightt]

@@gleamnite Because it was a product designed for OEM's. Selling it as a 900k despite it being a different product could be found to be fraud in some countries. Even if they are effectively the same product. The fraud hit would hurt them more than not selling a few cpus.

[@Techdeeni]

Good info. Thanks for taking the time to run all those tests. Helped me decide on the i9 10850k over the 900k since the price dropped a bit.

[@SometimesPirate]

I got my GN mouse mat this week! Really like it. Great job Steve and Team. Excited to see the coverage on 3000 series. Could you also add some under volting coverage ?

[@devonfarmer3438]

Remember when 4Ghz was mind-blowing for a stock cpu

[@honkhonkler7732]

I remember when I first started PC gaming being amazed that a Pentium 4 could hit a whopping 3.8GHz! .........While running neck and neck with or often falling behind an Athlon 64 at somewhere in the 2GHz range. When Conroe released, I think even the lowly Celeron 420 (single core, 1.6Ghz) either beat it or gave it a run for it's money while using a fraction of the power.

[@mackenziebullied4900]

@@honkhonkler7732 the pentium 4 was from 2000 and barely changed so ofc it fell behind 4 years later in a world where cpus were getting crazy ipc gains every year still

[@christophervanzetta]

I remember when dual core's came out

[@3000GTStealthGTO]

I remember when 233mhz was mind blowing

[@Bunster]

ok boomer

[@MrDamien1415]

Thanks for the hard work and keeping us informed like always.

[@yakacm]

What nice sentiment MrDamien, you sir are a gent.

[@Demonlordfifer]

I'll watch this when I wake up with some coffee steve, goodnight

[@tobiaszistler]

Good morning its 6:49 AM over here :D

[@nebulium6641]

Wholsome

[@nebulium6641]

My spelling isnt wholesome :(

[@nebulium6641]

Isn't

[@ryeguygaming4049]

who's coffee steve?

[@TekniQx]

With the 10850k now in the roughly $325 - $375 price range, I don't see any reason to even consider the 10900k at this point. ~$375 for a CPU this good is a *REALLY* good deal...

[@191desperado]

Last time I was this early my 2080ti...I can't it's too soon :`(

[@robertemerson1087]

And here group we see a wild broken human male.

[@digisuboob]

@@robertemerson1087 in fairness it was always plainly obvious the 20xx series was a joke.

[@yakacm]

@@digisuboob Hindsight is a beautiful thing.

[@A.Froster]

@@yakacm Nah Steve always trashed the 2xxx0 series compared to the 1080ti

[@TJ.85]

You didn't sell early? Why not?

[@the_freebeard]

Kind of surprised to see Steve running an ad for Thermaltake's Toughram given KitGuruTech's review and the subsequent tantrum TT threw because of it.

[@r3drumg33k3]

This has surprised me for a while also.

[@nigelwilliams449]

KGT's review If its the one I was think of) was in reference to the higher end variants where other brands did RGB better. THey were still happy with the slower speed (and cheaper) variants of the RGB

[@the_freebeard]

@@nigelwilliams449 Yes, it was the 4600 modules. But that's not the point. The problem was the way TT handled the situation, very unprofessional. Steve was even in KGT's video response to TT, so he's definitely aware of it.

[@JABelms]

@@the_freebeard TT just rebrands RAM sticks, I don't think they are to blame for whatever OEM put into their product. All TT just did was design the product and put it in a box

[@byunjoe]

@@the_freebeard TT's US representative and UK are different. Steve said in the post that the US representative has been incredibly responsive and accommodating for change. He expressed disappointment at the UK rep's response.

[@TechandTools1]

So at the microcenter near me they have both in stock, the 10900k is 699.99 and there's only one. The 10850k is 449.99 and there's 10 plus in stock. That's ridiculous!

[@nonstickmeat]

With that price difference why would anyone buy a 10900k

[@tonycaluda1868]

@Sabre Le I hope that's a joke.

[@xx420jin69xx]

Meanwhile I bought a 10700k from microcenter for $350

[@yoitsmegabe]

Yup just checked the NJ store pricing. You are correct.

[@TechandTools1]

@@xx420jin69xx That's a sweet deal! I bought a 9900k for 350 about a month ago, I had a 8086k in an aorus z390 master so I figured for 350 I can't really go wrong. They have some great prices usually.

[@utkua]

Lisa Su called, she said she will solve Intel's availability problem in few days.

[@jacobg492]

Call her back and tell her she failed

[@SuperD00D]

@@jacobg492 she didn’t.. I got a 10700K for 320$ and can’t find a Ryzen 5000 anywhere. I wanted the 5600X even though my X570 board is causing my system to crash, but probably just a faulty board. Did kind of make question AMD reliability though, especially hearing Radeon drivers are so bad, makes me wonder about the cpu’s too. But I guess I’ll just have to live with switching from R5 3600 which got dominated by Intel in gaming, to Intel, now being dominated by AMD lol. Still a great cpu though and I got a pcie 4.0 compatible Z490 board. It’s an upgrade either way from the 3600, in stock, and will WORK. And Rocket Lake should take back the gaming crown. If it does I’ll buy an 11900K. If it doesn’t, Ill sell my Intel stuff and by a 5800X.

[@trey534]

@@SuperD00D Radeon drivers havent been bad since like september 2019 lol

[@fulldiesel1234]

thanks for including the older cpu´s for refrence, really helps alot for comparsment. still using an E3-1246v3 in my case so the 4790k is somewhat in the neighborhood for me

[@rumble9330]

Poor r7 1700 alone at the bottom and he says.. "i'll be good in 9 years"

[@mdd1963]

[@AIlSystemsGo]

mdd1963 rts game if I’m not wrong

[@mackenziebullied4900]

@@mdd1963 I still feel bad for anyone who spent 400 dollars on a quad core in 2017

[@Angel7black]

@@mackenziebullied4900 why? they got years of top excellent performance out of it, its still performing similar to a 3600 in most titles .its not like first gen ryzen holds up at all.

[@mackenziebullied4900]

@@Angel7black cause if you had just waited 1 year you could have got 8700k and you wouldn't have to close everything in the background to keep the 1 percent and 0.1 percent lows up when playing games

[@edwardcordovez367]

Just picked it up for 410 bucks. Came from a 7700k. Seeing a HUGE difference.

[@blackwatch3320]

Let me join you in 2023. I bought mine for 200euros

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

​@@blackwatch3320 I'm here checking them out in 2023 also. How is it working for you? It looks like a very good part, 10c/20t, 5.x GHz. I've 9700k, 8c/8t, 5.x GHz, which is working fine. I'm also looking at used GPU :-))

[@Joelo1911]

So basically in my situation its a no brainer to purchase a 10850k for $460 instead of a 10900k for$700?

[@jaytsun8873]

No brainer mate

[@ratedrcaparoni9358]

I bought the 10850k for 515 $with the international shipping taxes and duties, I don't think that's bad considering without shipping and tax it cost 450

[@iwatchviddzz]

@@ratedrcaparoni9358 I picked one up from my local best buy for 460$ (it was $30 off) i also got another 15$ when paired with my motherboard. Happy camper!

[@brianvalen6083]

That’s crazy I got mine for $230 USD

[@ethantejera]

@@brianvalen6083 How? I want to get one but idk if I sould wait for 11th gen but for that price it’s a no brainer.

[@ttthoon2323]

just bought one of these yesterday assuming it was basically equivalent to the 10900k. glad to see your testing results confirms that.

[@TJ.85]

Good call it's a great chip and the best we will see for gaming this year

[@peterdexter3914]

@@TJ.85 Bro ryzen 3 is coming, probably not only on paper, and many think it would compete for gaming crown.

[@Seysande]

Peter Dexter lol no , intel is objectively better for gaming sorry dude. I like amd and built my own system with ryzen, but the benchmarks prove it.

[@andruloni]

@@Seysande bro, how do you know what's the performance of not yet *announced* CPUs, nevermind seeing benchmarks?

[@BlazeTheYouTuber]

@@Seysande AMD has made leaps in the gaming world it would be extremely surprising if they didnt catch up to these chips in games with zen 3

[@INSANEDOMINANCE]

Game demands keep getting higher, my game settings keep going lower. -4790K

[@Auttieb]

The spatulas mean one of two things a) GN is an nvidia shill confirmed or b) Steve is trying to become Jensen Huang

[@ToonerSKooner]

Hah.. jokes!!!

[@yasu_red]

Next thing to expect is the jacket

[@timjanssen2771]

b) Stensen Buang

[@BonusCrook]

That's just from trying to bake a 3090 like Jensen

[@ivanbrasla]

Jesus Swag*

[@Phaerimms2]

Scored my 10900K by being a hawk on Newegg. Got a notification and as soon as I placed the order they were sold out in like 10 seconds. Was nuts.

[@TJ.85]

I landed 3 early on. My first chip was coming from Newegg business but because they screwed up and shipped early (and the chips were set to arrive before launch) they stopped it in my neighborhood and sent it back across the country to CA. It was a heck of a mess and tons of us threw a fit on r/Intel they tied up our funds too and it was all just a big mess for days. Eventually they gave us all private links to rebuy even though they were sold out and got the chips to us just a day or so later. Crazy experience for sure. My other 2 have been much easier experiences

[@madf00bar15]

Same here, only no notification, I got lucky and happened to look when they were in stock. Would have happily bought a 10850K if they had been available at the time.

[@EphruzTech]

Gouging third party vendors need an exposé imo.

[@Snadzies]

If I was selling some luxury item and I knew people would pay more than MSRP for it I'd sell it for the higher price too.

[@EphruzTech]

@@Snadzies I'd be seeing you in that article. :p

[@lukeperman7964]

Timely video for me, thanks! was just considering purchase of a 10900K. Here in Australia, 10850K is $150 cheaper at $849, so would be a more worthwhile purchase. Now I'm just waiting to see if any prices drop after next months announcements ...

[@mystical4442]

Steve, I've undervolted both my RAM and CPU and now they've unionized against me and demand a higher power budget than they originally had, what do I do about this?

[@Mr_Doodleydoo]

Just make sure you let your mom know the electrical bill will be more expensive next month.

[@GameBacardi]

plug off cord every time you not use computer. Lights off.

[@yakacm]

Arbitration is the only solution to collective action unfortunately.

[@NANOTECHYT]

Send a diplomat to the union, it will increase your bargaining by +2 and buy you some time to gather more voltage via garrisons. Be quick!

[@GewelReal]

why would you undervolt RAM? Also I feel like you did the undervolt wrong on your CPU

[@charlescole6610]

Congratulations on a million subscribers!!!!( almost)) you truly deserve it..

[@shmehfleh3115]

Three weeks later, the 10850k's selling for $450 while the 10900k's up at $550. Seems like a no-brainer, especially if they're both likely to hit the same overclock numbers. But even if they don't, you'd never notice the difference.

[@BourgDotOrg]

I just got it for 390

[@someguywithmtndew5691]

got mine 309 with tax 325

[@trevorsmith470]

I like the quotation marks around the 8c for the FX processors.

[@ToneRetroGaming]

Steve releases videos at times like he living in Japan or something.

[@bananya6020]

australia? :P

[@LuciusVulpes]

@@bananya6020 He is not upside down.

[@bananya6020]

@@LuciusVulpes shit you're right

[@bananya6020]

well, he did review a ton of anime products... maybe they caught on to.him

[@andruloni]

They stayed in Taiwan last they visited and rebuilt their studio there

[@JL-vt5uo]

Still rocking this beauty nearly 4 years later. Worth every penny. Will use it for my backup pc when I upgrade my current backup (8700k)

[@florinborosh17]

i just bought and installed my 10850K - i originally ordered the 10900K but i was waiting since July for it, massive stock problems, i was going to get the 3080 before my processor :(

[@adamorand88]

I was able to BARELY spam the refresh on my Best Buy cart and get the 10900k. Absolute pain for like 2 weeks. Glad I was lucky though, sold out as I was in the buying process. It'll be here Sunday!

[@TJ.85]

And how much did you pay before taxes and shipping?

[@krishnachandranM]

Taking the CPU hidden behind the COLORFUL Spatulas... RGB...

[@CaveyMoth]

I wonder if there is an RTX 3080 hidden behind there.

[@TheRitualChannel]

Almost at 1 million subs! Congrats 🎉 to Steve and the GN team.

[@Leonsimages]

Consumers: *finally learned the names of the intels 10th Gen lineup* Intel used i9-10850K! It's very effective! Consumer is now confused!

[@Animize]

I mean... Let's wait for those new Intel 11th Gen 4800Us.... I hear they will be fantastic!! With consumer-friendly names as i7-1185G7 or i3-1125G4 nobody will ever get confused again!

[@exhoost_fume4646]

Try laptops

[@Leonsimages]

@@exhoost_fume4646 Oh no! You spoiled their secret weapon!

[@CheapBastard1988]

Consumer attacks: Missed AMD product on web shop due to confusion, now buys Intel. Consumer is now broke. Intel wins match. Consumer lost $500.

[@mateusmt6194]

​@@CheapBastard1988 That's actually some tactic those ass marketings try to do, always fails, but they never learn how bad is punching a product onto the consumer by confusion.

[@vertexgaming3004]

This man flames any pc parts even with sponsors and I respect that. You honest asf

[@LloydSFarr]

I went with the 10850k instead of the 10900k due the 10900k being on average $700+ recently, even at Microcenter. No regrets.

[@Turbolious]

Just picked up a 10850k at microcenter myself, $350 open box wooo

[@JhustineProvido]

I bought one for $320 in microcenter(plus another $20 discount with motherboard purchase). works great! Microcenters are awesome!

[@seedmole]

4790k overclocked is still puttin in work, long live the biggest homie

[@azaankhan7654]

had that bad boy for 6-7 years, still a beast

[@Tsino69]

The biggest surprise for me is Thermaltake sponsoring the video.

[@mabbook]

Hey Steve, love the content. Overall I find your benchmarking of products to be top-tier. But I believe that if you were to add a Multi-tasking/Gaming benchmark you would cover a use case that I believe to be very common yet has no benchmarking coverage. What I mean is benchmarking some games with programs going on in the background. It is rare today to have a game running with absolutely nothing running in the background anymore even if that is just a mouse/keyboard/RGB light control program. I have a 3600x and with my normal idle state, I sit between 5-10% with Discord, Brower, game lunchers, office stuff, etc. I also often watch videos with a game running or in extreme cases two games at the same time. When I see benchmarks of CPUs like the 7700k or 3300x I see that they get good average FPS but they are often pegged at or near 100% usage. This means that if you were to put 5% extra load on the CPU for background tasks then it would eat into resources needed to not have stuttery FPS in the game. Just something to think about.

[@ethzero]

Bloody close to 1M subs, congrats! Nice thing to coincide with a certain product launch ;)

[@mjwanni]

Helped me pull the trigger for a 10850k on Newegg. As much as I don’t care to play it... the 10850k came with the avengers, couldn’t help myself

[@TJ.85]

Give you 20 bucks for it?

[@WildkatPhoto]

Just wanted to say that as a lucky buyer of the 1600AF at $85 I really appreciate you putting this value monster on the charts. And even more I appreciate the i7 4790K being on the chart so my retro gaming monster can smile too.

[@dova5944]

I got a 10850k for 450 euro, it is amazingly good, and I apparently hit the silicon lottery because it is outperforming 10900k, at least at the commonly used benchmarks.

[@TJ.85]

What's your oc all core clock and voltage?

[@lowlevelgun7552]

@@TJ.85 I'm running mine at 5.1MHz @ 1.31v

[@xXShadow83Xx1]

Thanks for the info GN, now I "feel better" about the $480 purchase price.

[@TheXimena711]

Same lol

[@Savage-Destiny]

Thank you for leaving the 4790 on the chart. Still rocking a 4770, and i love seeing how it holds up against newer stuff!

[@andruloni]

It's nice, but having an ancient i5 2500k which is 4c/4t, I can only guess how bad the lows are on that one

[@Terrobility]

@@andruloni At least you have the K variant! I'm stuck with the regular i5 2500. I heard those generations have lots of OC headroom.

[@andruloni]

@@Terrobility oh yeah they do. 3.3 GHz base / 3.7 boost. I run mine 4.4 stable, but used to run even 4.5/4.6 with minor instabilities

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

​@@Terrobility are you still on the i5 2500? There's lots of used CPU and even CPU+mobo+RAM. I did the Windows uninstall motherboard drivers, swap everything, keep the hard drive so I still have windows and all my software installed, start the computer and install motherboard drivers. Everything working. All my software. There are KZbin videos that are only 5 to 10 minutes low which describe how to do this. I put off upgrading for years because I thought I would have to reinstall all my software. Microsoft should really announce this simple way.

[@Terrobility]

@@Google_Does_Evil_Now I actually upgraded 2 weeks ago. Moved over my SSD into the new rig and it works like normal. Just needed new mobo drivers through Windows Update and that's all. I got a dirt cheap deal on a used i5-9400F prebuilt. Paid £160 and that includes Asus mobo, 16GB DDR4, GT 1030 GDDR5 (which I will sell) and PCIe4 M.2 SSD. Got a used RTX 3060 Ti and threw everything in a new case. Total spend £600. And once I sell all my old stuff, I'll get £350 back. The used market is indeed awesome!

[@joaofaria5053]

Btw in canada the 10850k is 150$ cheaper right now with some sales going on. Fantastic value for the same chip. That's what I ended up getting.. Basically a cheaper 10900k after the oc. Great review as always. I'm just gonna be chilling here waiting on my 3080 now :(

[@cwill2127]

I honestly forgot what MSRP was for all of the 10th gen intel chips. Got a i5 10600k for $262 (msrp) but had to wait a few weeks checking amazon otherwise I would’ve had to shell out $300+ which I’d t worth it at that point

[@FenrisianAle]

Must be different in the states. First UK site I went to, had the 10900K in stock at £550 and the 10850K at £442, which is over £100 cheaper. Now having watched this though, I am actually thinking of getting the 10850K as it is basically the same, but significantly cheaper. Cheers for the review.

[@jollyrogerhobbies2386]

Currently as of me writing this. The 10850K is 439.99. the 10900k is 625.42. thats a difference of 184.43! Thats a price of a mother board! Heck, you can get the 10900k or get the same cpu called the 10850k and get a free mobo with it. hmm, i know my choice

[@antonio.x22]

really 10 Giga Hertz aren't the wide dramatic difference :D good choice yes! in prices... here in MEX even the i7 is a deal $$ so good with black friday sales :P

[@titaniummechanism3214]

Here in Germany the 10900K is about 510€ and out of stock everywhere while the 10850K is in stock everywhere and costs 50€ less. That's a really good buy here!

[@TechHug]

I'm more surprised that you're sponsored by Thermaltake ToughRAM than anything, considering the Kitguru video I discovered yesterday...

[@SirNickyT]

Spatulas were a nice touch but the whisk is what did it for me. 😊

[@jayjaytp10]

i love how the 9900k is still fighting and able to keep up or pass the i7 10700k.

[@rdmz135]

Well they're they're essentially the same product

[@OberstStein]

Because it is basically the same CPU. Just renamed.

[@jayjaytp10]

Redemz i know, just happy my 9900k is still relevant lol.

[@jayjaytp10]

Oberst_Stein true

[@levyroth]

SourBar they're the same cpu

[@pumkin54]

My PC recently failed, still under warranty. Sent it in and was told my GPU had failed and it would be 6-8 weeks to get a replacement. Rather than make me wait, the vendor sent me an entirely new computer from their limited stock on hand...with two differences. My 3070 was upgraded to a 3080, and my i9-10900K was downgraded to a i9-10850K. I've been feeling good about the GPU upgrade and slightly bad about the CPU downgrade. This has helped me feel just good overall. Thanks!

[@starwat0]

Have you guys considered doing backorders for the large modmats? I remember in a video you said that you need the money from the last batch before making the next one. I think backordering would help a lot here on your end, and for people that don't mind sending the money well before getting the product.

[@GamersNexus]

We always do back-orders, we just don't open them until we have a firm timeline on it. Just got that timeline last night, so probably opening for back-orders soon!

[@Titansfan81]

Yo. Just realized I've been watching your channel for months now and I wasn't subbed. My bad yo. I have since rectified the situation. Keep up the great work and love the content! Down here in nowhere NC which is quite far from you guys in Canada but yes... trust.. your content reaches this far south. Two thumbs waaay waay up!

[@justsomeperson5110]

But but but ... I NEED that extra half a frame per second!

[@mikaelvasko442]

In Sweden there are a couple of retailers that has 10900k's in stock for the same price as before ($620) and the 10850k costs $80 less.

[@mattx4253]

I just picked up this cpu for £429 which saved me £130. I can't really argue with the value and performance for a k sku 10 core at 5.2 and I dont see the point in overclocking either

[@TJ.85]

His value proposition in this video doesn't reflect reality this chip at 485-499 its sold and available for in the US is a great price when the 10900k was NEVER sold for under 530 from any main retailer amd most of the ones that have been in stock have been at 550 USD. (Amazon is the one selling it at 530 most of the time but they NEVER have stock)

[@mattx4253]

@@TJ.85 I paid US equivalent of 465 usd...

[@kalef1234]

Considering buying on for $389 on sale at B&H right now. THAT'S a GREAT price for a 10 core intel i9 imo

[@levyroth]

The 10700K is the sweet spot for gaming.

[@TJ.85]

A great chip for sure and. At the 375 pricing I got it at a couple times for customer builds it was a great deal. I ended up with a 10900k but only cause I wanted the 2 extra cores.

[@cmpowell1]

I just bought a 10850k last night after watching this and seeing that it is now $150 less than a 10900k and $200 less than an 11900k. Hoping for good things thanks for the review.

[@wedgoku]

This is another intel "Paper launch" - alot of the intels cpus are sold out on Amazon, ATM scalpers are buying the low 10-series cpu stock & reselling at higher then MSRP prices.

[@TJ.85]

Just gotta be faster than them I've scored 3 10900k and 2 10700k as well as 5 10600k since launch

[@wysetech2000]

wedgoku Paper launch! There are lots of 10850k chips around.

[@TheSofGProductions]

Last Sunday I bought the 10850k at my micro center for $449.99. Upgrade from 7700k. I'm happy!

[@magottyk]

AMD: Were updating our lineup with CPU's that clock 100MHz higher for the same MSRP. Intel: Hold my beer. (one 10850K later) AMD: I don't think it means what you think it memes.

[@magottyk]

@@ryanwallace983 It was pro consumer, it was purely optional as the lineup still included the discounted old SKU's. There's no need to reset the price, that'll happen on Zen3's launch.

[@magottyk]

@@ryanwallace983 I'm not claiming the XT CPU's were a great buy, but when compared to the 10850K they were a step forward and not a step back at the price point. There's no doubt that the XT's are to get back margin, but AMD could control that by not discounting during the cycle when they have popular CPU's. Intel rarely discounts any of it's lineup. You obviously missed the joke on the "hold my beer", they didn't progress by 100MHz they regressed by 100MHz and still charge like a wounded bull for an inferior product, not a superior one.

[@mahnamejeff7586]

@@magottyk i completely agree

[@itaiperes9635]

AMD: we get 100mhz more but finally gained 0 more FPS with this faster mhz cpu over the slower one. INTEL : 25% more fps in every game over AMD.... AMD: yea ! but we can unzip a file 0.002 ms faster !!! eat that !!!!

[@mahnamejeff7586]

@@itaiperes9635 fanboyism much?

[@sammeasures3394]

I'm only just watching this, excited for what's behind those spatula's!

[@143Support]

Gracious, we get what we expect and it's just to out more pressure on amd at the price point

[@FireJamUSA]

In Dec 2020 the 10850k is now available between $399.00 (on sales) and $429.00 normal price.

[@blackandbluedress8500]

The spatulas 😂😂😂😂 god I love this channel

[@sullygtx9350]

So stoked for the review on those Ray-Traced spatulas. Waiting on the GN review before I pull the trigger on one.

[@Jesse-lg3xj]

Grabbed a 10850k for $460 from Microcenter. Solid! Thanks GN team!

[@CZ-PCT]

Its a lie, here in Europe we have plenty of 10900K at stock, 10850K too

[@koustubhjain6789]

Fun fact in my country most of the retailers, have ran out of stock for the Ryzen 5 3600, so they are selling the 3600x at the price of 3600 and the XT variant at the price of the previous x variant

[@robertschubert4809]

I am watching this with my 10900k brand new sitting in my room untouched until I get the 3090

[@trz_maier7154]

I got the 10850k for £419 and the cheapest in-stock 10900k I could find was £539 (and it's out of stock now). This is quite a price difference and is in fact cheaper than 3900X in the UK which sits at £439.

[@ouki4925]

AMD’s best is slower than a freaking i5 in gaming. So many shills still recommend such outdated performance even at similar prices LMAO!

[@arkdesign9517]

They're just wanking over their cores, mate, most of them don't have a use for those cores as they run no software that makes use of it. That's why you see 1700x or 2700x users already upgrading, because you can have a hundred cores, if they are slow you're better off with fewer/faster cores. Not to mention the money they lost in the process "thanks to amd" canibalizing two of it's generations.

[@АлексейГриднев-и7р]

It may sound surprizing to you but gaming is not the only thing you can do with your PC.

[@АлексейГриднев-и7р]

@@arkdesign9517 sure it's better to do it like Intel, i.e. give 5% improvement and swap the motherboard socket each generation so that people don't have any single reason to upgrade in 5 years.

[@Chuckychargeblade]

yeah bro... if you buy the most EXPENSIVE intel CPU you can (sometimes) get a whole 20fps extra! It's only LITERALLY 400-500 DOLLARS MORE THAN THE 3600XT! Not to mention that there's literally millions of tasks a computer can perform besides playing games, such as streaming them! Where AMD does better! You could literally buy a whole ass graphics card for the unbelievable premium you pay for an intel chip that gives you 20 more fps at MAX! WOW! 400-500 USD! Not to mention the threshold for most buyers is either high resolution at 60hz or lower resolution at 144-240hz! So 20 fps really doesn't mean shit! There aren't really 4k 144-240hz monitors, especially not ones that don't cost the whole cost of a PC! You'll be stuck at 60hz which means that, oh wow, you dont fucking need to buy one that is 600-700 dollars because you either get the performance at a specific point for WAY CHEAPER or you're playing games competitively and lower the resolution/settings to consistently hit a 240+ FPS mark so you get the full refresh rate out of your monitor! Is 20fps worth 400-500 USD extra to you when it will pretty much never matter?! Did you read the graph??? Do you see the comparison of numbers on the screen??? LMAO!

[@Chuckychargeblade]

@Rerin YL fr lmao I don't support blind brand loyalty but what is this man talking about at a ridiculously different pricepoint you can get 20fps more bruh cmon

[@geeij]

Creeping up on that 1 mil xD eagerly awaiting my wire frame mouse mat :) - love the content guys

[@wile123456]

Intel dead brain: We lack supply for our high end CPU!!!! Okay, let's release another one at a lower price and kill the other model

[@Code-n-Flame]

Seems you're the one with a dead brain. 10850k will be more readily available than the 10900k because of yields. Ya shmuck.

[@John__K]

Intel joined the battle too late, now the 3900X is about 100$ cheaper in my country lol, rip i9 series.

[@TJ.85]

@@John__K Who cares Intel beats it and the $100 more replacement. I don't get why people think that the ryzen alternative is better only the 10900k(aa well as the 10850k right next to it) was AT or NEAR the top of each and every chart. The times that 3900x/t beats Intel are mostly very minimal and in productivity tests meanwhile the Intel chips regularly put the 3900x/t WAY below them and in the middle of the chart at best in some cases. The 10900k is the best high price chip to me as it's loses to its alternative aren't that big of a difference while it's gaming is always consistently stronger. If ryzen has to be what you go with cause you must be on the hype train with everyone else you'd be much better off with a cheaper chip Lome a 3600x and oc the crap out of it. To me the chip that spends more time at or near the top is the one to go with especially one that means heavy into leading in gaming. This gap will only extend further into high settings / higher resolution as time goes on and we get faster and faster gpu. The lead it has today at 1080p will someday extend to even 4k maybe the 3090 only sees it at 1440p but maybe the 4090 actually makes the 4k experience mirror 1080p.

[@John__K]

@@TJ.85 Hey if you wanna pay 100$ more for +7% at gaming, -10% at workload and 20% worse power consumption... that's your choice buddy.

[@wile123456]

@@Code-n-Flame Ah yes, the yields are now 55% instead of 50%, how great. Alkl these products are paperlaunches. The 14 nm node are focused elsewhere, demand is tiny and so is the supply

[@DarthBlazer.]

Thanks for adding the 4790k OC as im using that exact CPU

[@thejohnnerparty]

Really good review. Very informative. A big thumbs up. ;-)

[@efcv88]

I got the 10850K for $460 from Micro Center. You should probably consider them as a retailer when comparing because at that sale price i think its well worth it. And that was NOT with their ‘save $20 when bundled with mobo’ it was just the solo CPU.

[@LewdGeek]

Thanks Nexus for doing this video

[@pyronite3323]

Ive been waiting for this one, thanks steve lov u

[@Andytlp]

the 20 spatulas indicate that they indeed have the cards and are benchmarking them.

[@peteythebull812]

fkn love ya work bro... your are a solid reviewer...

[@stephanhart9941]

Love your work. Can't wait til you guys get the RYZEN ZEN3, 10 core chip!!!

[@QactisX]

If you add 5+5, 2 odd numbers of cores, to get even 10, the CPU might be odd as well

[@Itza-Me]

Well that didn't turn out well

[@stephanhart9941]

@@Itza-Me or at all. Not all rumors turn out to be true.

[@metalcrow88]

was thinking of the 10850k now looking at the scores and just gaming now looking at the 10600k

[@MrKlawUK]

I hope for the 3080 review they cover CPU temps in an aircooled case with the FE in particular - as one of the unique things we can’t easily quantify ourselves is that passthrough fan

[@PatrickPoet]

Wish you'd mention where the 7 3700x was sometimes. Not a criticism, nor do I think it would make anything better, it's just my cpu and you kept bracketing it and leaving it out and I was SURE my CPU was sad;) lol!

[@adnanerochdi6982]

Love Steve and the incredible dedication he gives to his job. 👍

[@Mihaylovpst]

I am surprised to see a thermaltake ads on gn channel in 2020. wow

[@clansome]

I watched this video on launch and checked the prices here in UK and said "Fair enuff". A week later, 17th September 2020, I was disappointed but not surprised (one of those things imo) to miss a 3080, so went browsing on Scan my etailer of choice and blow me, the 10850KA (Avengers Game Bundle version) was retailing at £440 so grabbed it. 10900K (without the game bundle) was £110 more so I think that it (10850K) is a good buy now. Stock is no problem at all in UK and I see similar sorts of prices now on Newegg in US too.

[@masdargames7133]

Phenom II CPU was very good at decompression.. probably still good.