Intel's Lunar Lake: Is this the end for Qualcomm?

[@JustJoshTech]

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[@GamersNexus]

Seems that we accidentally broadcast to your equipment. There must have been some weird interference with the studio equipment that day! (And thanks for the benchmarks!)

[@iraklimgeladze5223]

it was funny

[@vmafarah9473]

lol

[@krazymeanie]

Lol

[@roccociccone597]

Thanks Steve

[@ace100hyper3]

Whaaaat

[@brcosmin]

This is unreal. 25 seconds in and I get the summary of the findings. This has the be the most underrated KZbin tech channel. You guys are doing a terrific job!

[@MoChuang343]

And that beautiful heatmap that just lays out everything you need. Even if your laptop preferences differ from Josh, you still get all the info you need to make an informed decision right up front.

[@IvoPavlik]

@@brcosmin They seemingly work hard to deserve they success here and I wish them all the luck. They deserve it.

[@xerzy]

Stellar video, you left all of the hype and unrealistic expectations aside, got to the point, and did so elegantly. You're quickly becoming my favorite laptop review channel, good job!

[@JustJoshTech]

Thank you so much. We are certainly putting in the effort!

[@gafarhere]

Yeah, when it comes to real expectations he is my favorite! Any other tech channels seems so not legit when it comes to battery life or other sides of reviews where you can't just trust numbers, but this channel. I find myself regularly waiting for Josh's videos to make a decision on what new product provides and how is it in general. I mean, in short i come here for actual correct and useful information unlike other channels where i just watch thier videos for fun or white noise(Yeah Linus i am talking about you!)

[@miles_tails0511]

MD Josh def wouldn't had time to listen to the long-windedness of other channels, hence he made these so we can all feel like MD Josh :)

[@el_tate]

agree ;)

[@drinkwater9891]

@@JustJoshTech yeah good vijjo from you n your team

[@ramanathan7823]

This person is a gentleman. He tells you the facts right on. No click bait. ❤

[@SpanishCandle]

LOL. the actual title is a clickbait and he admitted it himself in another thread here in the comments 😀

[@anshumansingh2156]

Hearing positive feedback about Intel is certainly gratifying as an Intel engineer. The anticipation for the forthcoming Arrow Lake SKUs is quite thrilling.

[@auritro3903]

It's great to see an Intel engineer here in the comments! How does Arrow Lake seem to be coming along?

[@LukeValenty]

Agreed! ☺I'm eagerly awaiting delivery of my Zenbook S 14 today. My work has been in many products by now, but I am especially proud of the new firmware in our chipset PMC.

[@anshumansingh2156]

​@@auritro3903 I know just as much as you. I am not part of Client Computing Group.

[@DementedView]

Thank you for making me eat my words haha. I'm glad to see we're past noisy and low battery life laptops moving forward.

[@runninginthe90s75]

Finally Intel is back !! This is just Lunar Lake which is extremely good, imagine Arrow Lake, it will be insane !!

[@kingakim11]

I just want say Josh as a former reviewer, and current software developer, I absolutely love and respect your work. Incredibly well done.

[@RowdyDandy]

Thanks Steve!

[@auritro3903]

Back to you, Steve!

[@ZsigmondSzilveszter]

Your power efficiency methodology focuses on fully loaded, multithreaded scenarios (such as number crunching), where all cores are fully utilized and power is distributed evenly between them. Lunar Lake, having fewer cores, allocates a higher power budget per core, allowing them to run at higher clock speeds, than the 2 rivals (not counting Apple), which may result in lower efficiency in such scenarios. Since Intel Lunar Lake laptops are more likely to be used for lightly threaded applications, I would like to see a core-to-core efficiency measurement by assessing power efficiency during a single-threaded benchmark.

[@cristi_mx]

this should be interesting

[@israellewis5484]

True. But this was much better than their previous efficiency graphs.

[@MaxP936]

This! If lunar lake's strengths are in single core why did we not see single core efficiency charts?

[@parijatbhamburkar]

Heatmap is a nice addition to the review! Good to know heat and fan noise are minimal, thanks.

[@aristotelisentertainment279]

Qualcomm laptops should be like half the price of what they are selling right now.

[@dynamiszmx]

It's close, some Qualcomm laptops are 30%off right now😂

[@alipaulstagram]

I'd buy one if my software ran on it.

[@kubotite9168]

its a good chip tho..it just that windows and dev too lazy to support them

[@aristotelisentertainment279]

@@dynamiszmx They are stuck on launch prices in my country hahaha.

[@aristotelisentertainment279]

@@kubotite9168 Strong hardware without software support then it's useless. When most mainstream software gets an arm version then they can charge the same as x86 laptops.

[@RS-handle]

4 hours video test means nothing for battery life test. here's the battery tests which makes sense: - a stand by test for at least 12 hours. - a video playback until laptop shuts down. - a test while laptop is in performance mode and multiple apps are running something like ( browser with 10 tabs open, running music, having office apps open etc) - same test while running in balanced mode. i understand you can't run all of them, but 4 hours video test doesn't really help

[@omerfarukgungorf]

+

[@dr.muhamedv.m2991]

Maybe they dont have enough time to do it.

[@GarrisIiari]

Totally agree. I'm really tired of seeing video based testing of battery life as someone who never watches video on my laptop. Surely someone has to be able to develop a standardized approach that mimics usual use of browsing and light apps.

[@atom608]

This is probably exactly what im looking for. Dont need insane multi core like on AMD but want a fast snappy GREAT battery life laptop that can handle 20 tabs open and a few applications in the background.

[@IvoPavlik]

Came for Lunar Lake, stayed for Zen 5. PS: Love those cameos :-)

[@OrjonZ]

8533MHz really help the GPU for gaming and 3nm TSMC helps for everything else.

[@TalonsTech]

Ya TSMC has been helping both AMD and Apple for years.

[@SAKTHITech]

Design plays a huge role too

[@jonathanng138]

Was about to go to sleep here in Aus, and then Josh just posted god fucken damn

[@JustJoshTech]

Ha ha. Watch out for the epic cameo in it

[@NsteveA]

Loved this video! The length is just right and using multiple presenters to share the load was great.

[@JustJoshTech]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!

[@eclipse-351]

One additional point for Snapdragon and Apple Silicon is the standby time. From Phawx's review, standby on Lunar Lake has gotten better (from 20% drop over 12 hrs to 10% drop), it is still a very long way from being comparable to either Snapdragon (0.7% drop over 12 hrs) or Apple Silicon laptops. The difference can really be felt if you are doing lightweight work on the go or if you are moving around a lot in the office instead of just sitting in your cubicle all day.

[@dr.muhamedv.m2991]

I didnt know that, thanks for pointing out. ARM barely sips juice when idle.

[@newolde1]

Indeed, and as I understand, the converse is true as well, x86 is more efficient when under load compared to arm. And are more powerful, when voltage is sufficient and heat dissipation is good. Correct?

[@lycanthoss]

@@dr.muhamedv.m2991 it's the same for AMD. The problem here is Microsoft's approach to modern standby and OEMs with their BIOS/Firmware.

[@lycanthoss]

@@newolde1 No, that is not correct. x86 vs ARM doesn't really matter to a meaningful degree. Those are just instruction sets. Chip makers can design their chips to work better in certain scenarios, but it comes at a cost in other scenarios. x86 CPUs have generally targeted performance at the cost of the efficiency (because on desktop you don't care about battery life). Apple and Qualcomm have long been making smartphone chips where battery life is one of the most important things and so they know how to optimize for battery life.

[@runninginthe90s75]

Finally Intel is back !! This is just Lunar Lake which is extremely good, imagine Arrow Lake, it will be insane !!

[@SeanLi-i7n]

A big thumbup for Josh's work - the beginning map is very helpful.

[@Kyt2024]

Definitely a ton of people who can comfortably sacrifice multi core performance for all the other benefits Lunar Lake brings! Great work by Intel.

[@noahcuroe]

I'm kind of shocked by Intel's naming scheme here. It like... makes sense, each number serves a greater purpose than just making people think bigger number equals better. You can actually glean the specs of the machine from the processor model number. Wow! Now, can Intel stick with this scheme for more than two generations?

[@Kumoiwa]

I agree but why are there sooo so many SKUs when they're all 8 core low wattage?

[@noahcuroe]

@@Kumoiwa More specs are determined by the CPU package now, so more SKUs required for each permutation. With RAM now integrated into the CPU package, they need to double the SKU count to have options for 16GB and 32GB. Then double again for each of the two iGPU options.

[@SweBeach2023]

It will quickly break down if having SKU:s with more memory.

[@ZiyaKavuncu]

Wow so much information, I can't even imagine the amount of research that goes into a video like this.

[@omarcortes5754]

I'm glad the intel is finally doing something. To me this solves Qualcomm's software compatibility issues.

[@AyoHues]

Awesome. The SoC comparison here is the best anyone has done to date. Superb. 👊🏽👏🏽👍🏽 For Windows laptops, general users should go Lunar Lake, power users Zen 5 or wait for Arrow Lake. (Although I expect Zen 5 will be more efficient than Arrow Lake and probably the cheaper option too.)

[@IvoPavlik]

@@AyoHues if only there were more Zen 5 options available. The current offer is abysmal.

[@AyoHues]

@@IvoPavlik AMD make better parts but then fail to supply them to the OEMs. In previous years there have often been too few laptops available with Ryzen chips even though they clearly outperformed their Intel competition in reviews. The range of laptops that are currently available at the Zen 5 launch is already much better than in previous years so I’m pretty optimistic we’ll see more Zen 5 laptop releases over the next 4 months. I’ve heard Intel has supply issues with Lunar Lake too and Arrow Lake is only getting a paper launch this year according to the gossip so AMD have a clear run at the market. Here’s hoping… 😬

[@IvoPavlik]

@@AyoHues that's sounds hopeful. Thanks for the explanation.

[@Jayguevara1982]

Steve's cameo is the most random thing I've ever seen on this channel and I love it. 🤣

[@AhmadQ.81]

I can say that new Zen 5 on balance mode is equal to the new Intel lunar lake on performance mode. Now it's clear.

[@Burbanana]

Amazing video, I really didn't expect Steve showing up in the middle lol! Had no idea you guys had contact either. Loved it! Would you think the Lunar Lake would be good for personal low-mid load webdev projects alongside casual use? I wanted a Ryzen 300 Zenbook, but I use it on my lap a lot with my hands resting on it, and I don't want the heat you feel to be an issue and burn myself lol. Just want something fairly light, premium and portable without thinking about battery too much. Thanks a lot Team! (PS: Will you review the Omnibook 14 Ultra with the Ryzen 375 any time soon?)

[@JustJoshTech]

@Burbanana if it was me, I'd get a MacBook Air M3. Better trackpad for using on my lap like you said. Yes, I do think Lunar Lake will be fine for what you discuss so long as the project you are developing is fairly simple. As you said, it's low to mid load. I'd get the Zenbook over the Aura personally.

[@JustJoshTech]

@@Burbanana yes we just got the new Omnibook in. We will have it in an upcoming video. And btw... thank you for your support!

[@Burbanana]

@@JustJoshTech No thank you for being legends of the game

[@Burbanana]

@@JustJoshTech Interesting, I assume you mean a Macbook Air with 16GB though at least?

[@JustJoshTech]

@Burbanana Yes, I did. Now that the Air M3 has been out for a while, that is pretty easy to get at the price point these are being sold at. Heck, I bought one to help us make this video for you all!

[@herrspitz6964]

Good comparison! But unfortunately there is just the 365. It would be more interesting with the 370 or the 375 because they have more cores better gpu und clock speed.

[@akin242002]

This, Lunar Lake laptops, will be in high demand by the sales department, traveling auditors, and consultants with business laptops. Examples: X1 carbon, Dell Latitude 74XX, HP EliteBook 840 GX, or Lenovo ThinkPad T14 lines.

[@blueeyednick]

The wild Steve appearance was dope

[@gooooooooooofy]

Great review, you are becoming my favourite laptop reviewer, no hype, no bs, I feel respected both as a viewer and a consumer. Thank you for the work!

[@JustJoshTech]

Thank you!!! Glad you appreciate it. On 4 hours sleep to bring you guys that video

[@ruykava]

Actually one conclusion I have from this video is that I really should have a look at those 125U laptops again

[@JustJoshTech]

That was our thought, too. They are very good value for what you get

[@SeanLi-i7n]

I am watching this video on a 125u laptop, the best experience I have among Intel 12-13th, AMD 4000-6000 laptops. Simply because it is quieter/cooler than others for my light-use case (watching youtube and local videos, play music, text editing).

[@Frozoken]

Just a note the lunar lake laptop is using oled screens which use way more power. The lcd dell xps 13 got nearly double the battery life of the oled version, both lunar lake.

[@adylutai10]

​@Frozoken are you sure they are at the same resolution? OLEDs on laptops are usually at crazy high ppi. Also, OLEDs mostly consume power when showing white, when viewing colorful media and black UIs they use close to nothing.

[@Frozoken]

@adylutai10 No they aren't they lcd is 1080p while the oled is 1440p but that's no where close to enough to account for the fact that the lcd is literally getting twice the battery life.

[@OryonCreed]

To me it’s still surprising that a FIRST gen Qualcomm chip of exactly one year ago and older manufacturing process is up there competing with the big guys. Most of you don’t understand this and just talk as soccer fans. Think about the engineering effort to create this SoCs and the entire ecosystem behind them. Also clearly Qualcomm focused on NPU and gave up GPU in this first gen. It would be nice to see some tests on that given they’re all copilot+ PCs compatible.

[@Trickey2413]

Please don't praise Qualcomm for their npu 😂

[@OryonCreed]

@@Trickey2413 what? I just would like to see related comparisons between all platforms dumba$$

[@OryonCreed]

@@Trickey2413 what? I just would like to see related comparisons across these platforms (stop deleting comments that you don’t like or highlight BS - you know )

[@darlokt51]

Your way of measuring efficiency is really interesting, but may be misrepresenting the efficiencies of these processors. What you measured, by comparing the Cinebench scores to the power draw can be seen as peak power efficiency. And as expected the CPUs with more cores perform better, as their more cores you have, the better you can distribute the work in a heavily parallel scenario like this benchmark. The problem come in that CPUs have efficiency curves not only at peak power and load, but also at lower loads. Kinda like the AMD desktop efficiency being bad at light loads and getting better at higher loads. In this case, AMD Qualcomm and even the old Intel CPUs perform better at this peak load scenario because they have more cores and threads to distribute the work more efficiently. Is is more efficient to run ore cores at a lower speed rather than run less cores at a higher speed etc. why a 4090 is also very efficient in its own right etc. Lunar lake is especially bad in this case, as it’s E and P cores are not on the same fabric and don’t support hyper threading, which would help in this scenario to increase the peak load efficiency. Lunar Lake is optimised for medium to lite load. At lite load it saves a lot of energy by being able to disable the ring fabric for the P cores completely and only run on the E core cluster. The same at medium and heavy single thread. It can run only on the P cores completely cluster and draw significantly lower power this way. You can compare power draw during the Cinebench single core test to see this in action. At these load levels lunar lake is incredibly efficient. Intel did this by design, as even in gaming, around 90% of all processors use fits into one of these two scenarios, a 100% loaded CPU like in Cinebench is not a realistic usage pattern. So maybe revisit your efficiency work, as especially for Laptops, the more interesting efficiency is the single core efficiency and lite load efficiency.

[@galiplecter]

Thanks for the link, just ordered the Zenbook LNL

[@JustJoshTech]

That's my favorite imo

[@AhmedFarahat2]

What does LNL stand for?

[@lol-tu8dv]

lunarlake​@@AhmedFarahat2

[@kartikpintu]

​@@AhmedFarahat2 Lunar Lake

[@AyoHues]

@@JustJoshTechThe Scandinavian White is the nicer colour imho but either way, loving the ceraluminium finish. ☺️

[@SuperRomanHoliday]

THIS is the question everyone wants answered!! AI is useful inasmuch as you get co pilot which is cool

[@johngalactus4014]

Wow, 25 seconds in, and there's a beautiful table of comparison. I might have come across this channel before, but this is amazing! Subscribed!!!

[@irata2006]

Awesome video! With Lunar Lake it seems Intel decided to focus on energy efficiency and GPU performance over multicore processor performance. I hope their gamble pays off. With this and Ryzen AI there is no reason to get a Qualcomm Snapdragon X laptop.

[@Grahamaan27]

Lunar lake doesn't have better battery life because they are slower. It's clear if you look just at cpu power consumption, lunar lake is not too competitive. But what makes lunar lake have such great battery life is overall package power- integrated memory, lower power island, efficient integrated graphics that shares the system memory directly. It's obvious the "p core" is not much different than meteor lake, but the e core is better

[@Blovmag]

Instead of showing the faces of the presenters, what about giving us 1 more second for each chart, to be able to read them. Even pressing pause is not feasible for how quickly they switch frames.

[@thedarknightnicht]

Im a bit dissapointed, that its such a muddied picture. Would have loved a chip with good efficiency on low and high performance tasks. Both zen 5 and lunar lake have their unique downsides

[@Shalomrutere]

Q: Is this the end for Qualcomm? Me: I hope not!! I hope Qualcomm continues growing to keep Intel, Apple and AMD on their toes

[@vmafarah9473]

We saw only Qualcomme first gen, they already stole many apple M series engineers and we can expect something bigger in second gen.

[@Not_a_lier]

Wait Tech Jesus has invaded this channel? What an achievement

[@FoxxFire]

The one slightly unfair aspect of comparing battery life of all these Windows processors to Apple's is that Apple doesn't have a 'balanced' or 'efficiency' mode. It always runs in the highest power mode, unless of course you turn on low power mode. If a tester isn't testing the battery of a Windows laptop in the highest performance mode, and rather uses something like balanced, then really you should be setting the MacBook to low power mode. The Mac will often even outperform in low power mode a Windows chip in balanced mode. So it is only fair to do that, IMHO. And if you do that, then the Mac I'm guessing will win in battery comparisons (and I have no dog in the fight here; i'm not rooting for Apple at all; i am just trying to look at it objectively).

[@JustJoshTech]

Good comment

[@Juan_Velasco]

How splendid is this guy?

[@djayjp]

Need to compare against the 890m.... 😑

[@ithinkabout4369]

Did you account for the RAM power consumption in your scatterplot? Because that is part of the power consumption for Lunar Lake, but not for other Windows PCs.

[@chroesu]

18 minutes of video and I'm watching it for 2 hours. THIS is exactly what I expected from Linus tech lab improvements and it's impressive to see from a relatively small creator. Thanks for the great work and quality.

[@JustJoshTech]

Glad you liked it. Comments like yours make this all very worthwhile

[@ricardogarcia-vi6hv]

I appreciate the amount of technical info provided with a good explanation for someone not in the computer world.

[@stefdevs]

Data point: For some reason at 8:23 I perceived the left side of the chart as being highlighted, rather than blocked out, and that was confusing for a moment! That chart is still a bit unintuitive, but I appreciate all the effort you are putting into charting strats. The heat map is a great addition!

[@pixeled-]

Excellent work you guys. Easily digestable, no-nonsense, hats off! :) Especially the table showing the pro's and con's of all related rivaling models is a joy to see, and I love how you explain in layman's terms how you came to the results shown in the numerous charts. The only piece of (hopefully constructive ;)) feedback I would like to give is that when talking about gaming results, I think nothing goes above actual real-world tests, not synthetic benchmarks. I understand your rationale for wanting to compare apples-to-apples (and thus running 3Dmark benchmarks), but I think in the end this is not what is important to people wanting to game. I think they simply would like to know: how much FPS will my game run at? :) Thus running some actual games (maybe 4 or 5 of the currently most played?) would be more indicative and give more realistic results.

[@nathanfranck5822]

Thanks so much for that intial table! It's amazing to see how insane the intel comeback could be as long as they don't screw up! Hopefully all this competition will drive down the prices of these laptops to the point where I would consider buying one :)

[@Caponica23]

Best Channel so far to get real insights.

[@andyH_England]

We're fortunate to have Josh on KZbin. I enjoyed this review and comparison. As for Lunar Lake, a solid alternative for light to medium ultrabook users.

[@frustratedcreep8241]

i don't like they removed ryzen 9 370 stats because its most closely priced to lunar lake laptops

[@EnochGitongaKimathi]

Hurray for competition. This is what we need. More competition drives more innovation and prices down.

[@Justsomeguy492]

Looks good for light workflows

[@wojtek-33]

Lunar lake isn't what wrong with Intel. They have much bigger issues than the success of lunar lake.

[@SnowDrift-bh7wb]

Thanks to the integrated NPU it is now possible to host an opensource LLM locally on your notebook. This might be of very high interest for programmers for example.

[@InnocentiusLacrimosa]

You could host LLMs locally since the start of LLMs.

[@shanehebert396]

Betteridge's Law of Headlines.

[@JarrodsTech]

Amazing testing, very impressive

[@michaelan9688]

Love your power efficiency graphs, very helpful in directly comparing the processors across a range of power draws! One thing I wonder is if the graph changes much when comparing cinebench single core performance?

[@AspirateEarmark371]

I think you can confidently remove the question mark behind your title. Nobody cares about those extra multi-core performance from x-elite when software compatibility is this bad, remember how long it takes for Adobe to port Photoshop😂

[@ohwhatworld5851]

I appreciate the chart at the beginning. But it would have been helpful if you had told us the specs of the laptops.

[@jonathanjones7751]

This was far and away the best LNL coverage I’ve seen so far. Only thing I wasn’t a fan of was the battery % charts but other than that amazing work!

[@nyute6425]

the fact that the 8845hs, basically a 7840hs is still so competitive at its price point

[@vmafarah9473]

You can grab one at 700$ , with upgradale RAM. with decent battery life.

[@abaj006]

It also has the best battery life in this review.

[@mastersmurfify]

Excellent video - perfectly paced and packed with the usual great points

[@mavvdeus]

I really enjoy this full rundown (as a fellow informatics professional)

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

One of the few videos ive ever seen (probably seen like 10000 in my life) where i get all the important info at the beginnings

[@victorricardorezende8079]

Lunar lakes gpus, seems to be pretty good

[@bob890119]

For the algorithm! Love the video. Please keep it up!

[@yuvaaditya]

what is this? a crossover episode?

[@kyleheaser2385]

Qualcomm X Elite and AMD Strix Point both use TSMC N4P (a 5nm-class node) while Intel Lunar Lake has the core compute on TSMC N3B (a much better 3nm-class node). A lot of the performance and power efficiency delta is because Intel chose a much more expensive and advanced process node from TSMC. If Qualcomm and AMD were excited to massively dilute their gross margins and not make money, they too would have used TSMC N3-family for medium-sized laptop chips.

[@MarkHyde]

Love that cameo - great video as always.

[@Antagon666]

Why are you measuring "battery % remaining" instead of Wh consumed ?

[@michaozga7825]

Beautiful man , with beautiful laptops

[@lefteris19]

really interesting findings. lunar lake brought some much needed excitement in the X86 thin and light space. now i wonder which laptops have clear displays like the slim 7x without the screendoor mesh from the digitizer.

[@nasranruwaidi]

This is awesome review for the lunar lake laptop. It really summarizes of we could expect from the new cpu. Lunar lake would be perfect for thin & light laptop.

[@JustJoshTech]

Thank you!

[@TheLDunn1]

Thanks JJ Team! Just made my PC picking a bit more harder now 😀

[@pewpewpower]

Amazing new charts/heat maps! Also these are literally the two lunar lake laptops I was most hyped for!

[@pondtitipong6908]

By far this is your best 2024 video. Every section is just great. Keep it up, Josh.

[@tylertoptier2353]

Lunar lake is gonna kick ass in gaming handhelds.

[@kylorokx1552]

So it barely competes with M3? Such a disappointment. I expect more. Thanks Josh and Team.

[@kartikpintu]

Some of these Apps are just way more optimized for apple (in part due to apple incentivizing the devs) and they also have full control over the hardware and software that sits around soc. Intel only makes cpu (and a damn good one at that), the hardware and software has different origins. Bigger battery, better chassis are from laptop manufacturers while software is from Microsoft (full of bloat ware). In conclusion, it will never be an Apples to apples. Imo intel should start making their own laptop shipped with some Linux based OS optimized for intel x86. It will blow the market away

[@GustavoNoronha]

Don’t like the “load of crap” angle for the NPU. Understand not liking the marketing, but it would be better if you consider the use cases. NPUs are not for top performance, it’s for power efficiency for long running, simpler tasks.

[@MrLazini]

stunning quality video josh. Bravo!

[@Salim-kc5tl]

Great share & breakdown so useful keep it up 💯😀

[@Alex-dj7nc]

Thank you for your work. Intel has finally released a balanced product based on today's capabilities of the company.

[@CrankThijsUp]

I wish you guys tested battery drain in standby, since that's one of the areas Macbooks and Qualcomm laptops excel in compared to most x86 laptops. Being able to pull it out of a bag 2 days later without any loss of battery percentage is a huge deal.

[@supersnail5000]

Do the power efficiency metrics account for the on-package memory of lunarlake and the m3? I'd expect actual power usage is a couple of watts lower factoring in that it also includes the memory, unlike xelite or ai300. Is this another factor in why the battery life test was so much better than the efficiency test

[@SoulOfTech]

Great video! Love the non hyped perspective:)

[@HDRPC]

OLED consumes much more power than ips LCD. Please test Asus Expertbook with Lunar Lake.

[@Andrea-xo3ix]

thank you for these info, guys

[@antonioferreira589]

For programming, and maybe some light gaming on the side, which would you say is better: lunar lake or zen 5? Great video btw!

[@kartikpintu]

Lunar lake hands down. Unless your code depends on using pthreads library i don't think you need zen 5. You need to deep down on what your code does and the scope of your project. You want to create a website/gui apps, lunar lake. You want to create whole blender/Microsoft suite from scratch go for either meteor lake or zen 5.

[@Kumoiwa]

Zen 5 is the most balanced option and Intel drivers are always behind when it comes to gaming compared to AMD

[@coprilettodelnapoli5466]

Zen 5 but you should change the wifi module aftermarket because it's mediatek...

[@InnocentiusLacrimosa]

Lunar Lake would be my choice. I have currently an AMD laptop and I am far from impressed by its device drivers.

[@panathaninf]

Excellent review! Thank you so much!

[@chrism1051]

Nice review. My conclusion from this review is look for previous u series for my use case since I don't game or edit videos

[@Mahesha999]

Let's make this video most upvoted laptop review video ever for the comparison right at 25 sec !!!!!

[@JustJoshTech]

You're a legend. That would be amazing!!

[@yewo.m]

0:24 - I like how the Zen 5 isn't completely bad at any particular thing in this graph

[@banepigeon]

I’m sorry, but how does the snapdragon have similar graphics performance to Zen5… I’ve seen countless other reviewers say it’s just about half of zen 5

[@not_me_again_maybe]

nice reference: “Back to you, Josh.” 😂