INTEL vs AMD - Who Makes the BEST APU for Video Editing in DaVinci Resolve?

[@taymus13]

I dont use DaVinci, but no one else does indepth looks for actual editing like this. Thank you for taking the time to go through this.

[@theTechNotice]

😉👍

[@Dhruv-qw7jf]

I used to think so as well, but if you look a little bit deeper, he does nothing more than just pulling data from a single benchmarking software called PugetBench, which might still be the best way to test systems for performance related to creative workloads but it's nowhere near as deep or intricate testing as some of the benchmarking done by gaming centric channels like Hardware Unboxed or Gamers Nexus (but they put almost all of their focus on gaming related data, which is sad as we really do need a true competitor to them in creative workflow benchmarking space as well).

[@giuliano8031]

You didn't allocate more Vram to the 5700g which makes this test not usable for me. It defaults to 512mb, of course it plays back worse than on an Intel CPU which as far as I remember defaults to 4gb.

[@SupremeDP]

Could someone else confirm that this is the case?

[@kellyvill9413]

How is that done? Is it in Davinci?

[@snoot6629]

@@SupremeDP yeah , you can allocate more vram (ram) on the 5600g/5700g , up to 8gb if i remember correctly

[@EditorPerezoso]

07:09

[@Patrick_D]

Up to 16G with 5700g for sure @@snoot6629

[@growingtogether35]

512MB of ram dedicated for your graphics is not enough back to the drawing board Asus Bios Advanced > NB configuration > UMA frame buffer size > 16GBS >save and restart. Make sure you have 64-128GB's of ram ;)

[@MuhammadIhsan390]

Something I notice for 4K 4.2.2 on DR is the RAM usage is way lower than on Premiere Pro (around 12GB vs 20GB+).

[@cyberridz]

Great video. My next build will be an APU system and I'm having a hard time choosing between Intel or AMD with integrated graphics. More videos like these but for budget builds geared towards work and maybe light gaming. Maybe a comparison between i3/R3 or i5/R5 with integrated graphics.

[@smalldeekgeorge]

Go to settings>gpu>chose open cl for amd. Can be turned off by default in davinci resolve. Now your gpu usage will go up and playback will be so much better....

[@aman-mn5kc]

Thanks! does i need to do this with RTX 2060?

[@smalldeekgeorge]

Yup

[@wild1athletics]

I've recently started using davinci resolve. I realized quickly my currently cpus are the weak point in my computer. Looking into ryzen 7 5700g or ryzen 5 5600g

[@serhat757]

Very comprehensive tests! Exactly what I was looking for!

[@habs]

Probably when you did this review prices were a little closer but honestly you need to be an intel fanboy obviously as this is the worst comparison to compare this 2 CPUs. The 5700g really is meant as an APU for gaming, so even the 5600x would make more sense for productivity, if you already have a GPU. And at this point of time the intel is around 385 and the 5700g is going for around 180 bucks which makes it a much much better choice just for the price to performance ratio. Again, like others mentioned, you didn’t take the time to configure and optimize settings for the amd APU maybe because you had no knowledge. But if you're making money out of these videos at least take the time to research all this stuff so you can give the public the best information possible.

[@spicymusicpiano]

When You test the timeline performance much more often Ryzen is better but in the end You said that Intel is MUCH better... WTF??

[@tintiks]

One thing is playing the footage. Other thing is color space transforms, grading, applying LUTs. Can the 5700g manage these nodes with 10-bit 1080p footage in realtime? I have a choice to upgrade my workstation (which has a GT710 GPU and was supposed only for software developer work) by changing the M/B, CPU and RAM or changing GPU only, for that price I can get a GTX1650 or GTX1660.

[@joraphpictures]

Finally a video for productivity... Not just games... Can you compare this system (AMD, Intel ApUs) the to mac m1 mini.

[@atf56]

All of his videos are based on productivity.

[@theTechNotice]

Wait for the 5700g build review, there I'm comparing it to Apple's M1.

[@joraphpictures]

@@theTechNotice Thanks very much. I am considering buying the M1 Mac mini for video production. I actually wanted to buy the AMD 5950 with Nvidia 3080 but it is difficult to get video cards at normal price.. All videos I have watch about the M1 mac Mini seem very promising. I don't know if I will be making the right decision to get a mac mini or just wait for the GPU market to normalize

[@SagarDass]

Can I buy 5700G for now for my video editing build and later when the price of graphic card will decrease , I'll bought it ? Please make a video with 5700G with rtx 3070 or 3060 . I want to see the performance for my future upgrade.

[@theTechNotice]

Stay tuned, video coming out later this week.

[@simplysurfing]

He didnt answer the basic qstn....just wants you to come see another of his videos to increase views. LOL

[@f1xd11]

@@simplysurfing LMAO

[@ascari100]

The only thing missing in this is testing hevc codecs like the 420 10bit 120fps from the sony a7s3. would have loved to see that test.

[@focuspixvideoaudioservices68]

any idea what iGpu will be like on the desktop new ultra CPU,s and new ryzen...

[@jsilvatvosc8516]

Hermano necesito ayuda, lei en Internet que un procesador con gráficos integrados tiene mas ventaja a la hora de editar (igualmente usando una integrada) por caché o algo asi... Pero hasta ahora no consigo información como tal al respecto queria saber si me compraba un intel con o sin integrados.

[@deeomayall]

Hey, thank you for putting out exactly the video I wanted! I would imagine that now Alder Lake just shreds the 5700G :P I don't play games and I only want to do 4K editing, so you've basically shown me that living without a GPU IS an option, until the prices get to manageable levels again. (my current setup is a laptop and it struggles with 1080p.) Is it me, though, or you didn't apply any filters and you did no colour grading? Would've been great to see a more real-world workflow, with all those clips being colour-graded in real time, transitions etc...

[@theTechNotice]

Have a look at my latest 12900k without dgpu test, I think that will help ;)

[@yeahyeahyaha2]

This is just what I needed! Lots of thanks

[@davefroman4700]

Question? Did you open up the UMA for the Ryzen chip?

[@ifell3]

Would have liked to see some h.264 and some fusion tests too!! But hey, got me subbed!!

[@ChilledRythm]

Question are able to use the term apu for both intel and amd?

[@mtbboy1993]

I only shoot 60fps, so how does it perform then? So always work with 60fps timeline. I too use resolve.

[@dablet]

so once a GPU like the bare min 3060 is added in, the AMD system can do 6k or even 8k right?

[@theTechNotice]

6k yeah, 8k not sure, depends on the codec.

[@derJackistweg]

"...just becausee" isnt it quick sync? Out of the top of my head I remember back 5 years ago roughly Intel announced an hardware acceleration on davinci. actaully an Intel developer meat an Davinci one and a result was that. So still nothings changed s the quintessence of this video?

[@smileinurhand]

Ya. Really Helpful. Can you suggest a budget VGA Card for the AMD 7 5700G? Pls

[@BlackGhost_TTV]

would love to see your full project settings or recommendations for smooth playback on intel

[@theTechNotice]

Great idea! 👍

[@merochillin5316]

Great video like always! I think i will go with amd because the price is great also i will only edit 1080p footage. Can you please tell me which other parts should i pair it with? I'm on a budget, your answer would help me alot!

[@Prussia_is_not_yet_lost.]

I have the 5700G with the Asus B450M-A ii Motherboard. If you update the Bios for the MB then this APU works on that Motherboard. However I immediatelly put an GT 1030 Graphic card into it.

[@Indonesia01ian]

@@Prussia_is_not_yet_lost. hi do you have any reason to put the GT1030 with the 5700g?

[@Prussia_is_not_yet_lost.]

@@Indonesia01ian The GT 1030 is about 2 times as fast on the only game I play as the Vega 8 of the 5700G. With the 5700G integrated graphics I get about 30 fps and with the GT 1030 I get between 40 fps and 65 fps (sometimes 70 fps and sometimes 35 fps depending on the internet connection as it seems).

[@bartolinijanicki]

Hi. I have old PC with intel i5 4th Gen and GPU GTX 750 TI 2GB. Shall I buy AMD Ryzen 5700G and Add my Old GPU or shall I use only APU for Premiere Pro and Photoshop. Of course I will also buy new RAM, new SSD, and everything without new GPU. Could you please advice

[@kellyvill9413]

Any ideas here to help me out? I'm looking at getting the 5600G or X or the 5700G or X for editing h.265. I can currently edit h.264 fine with my 2200G but it can't handle h.265. I don't want to switch to intel which I know can handle h.265 like a dream. So my question is can the amd's mentioned above handle h.265 and is it better to get the G over the X for video? I intend to get a 6600X graphics card for the system.

[@codfish1776]

Hi 3200g best for 1080 60fps at basing editing? Resolve.19.1

[@maxwellsmart3156]

Do RDNA/RDNA2 dGPUs work well with DaVinci Resolve or is it just the Vega iGPU?

[@rdsii64]

The 5700G defaults to 512mb of vram. Can you allocate more if needed?

[@flavioricardez1912]

yes

[@oldtechnology]

What about 6 core i5? Is 8 core mandatory?

[@Unifantast]

Is the new i5-12600K better than the Ryzen 5700G for Davinci Resolve?

[@help-l6e]

OKAY KZbin must make a section just for u as the best Hardware review channel for content creators !!!!!!!

[@theTechNotice]

Wow, thanks!

[@apollosophy24]

Can you pls try it on new ryzen 8600g and 8700g npus i wish amd just fix it anyhow

[@gabrielestupinan]

You didn't mention how much Ram your PC has. To handle 4K or 6K need at least 64GB of Ram

[@gabethepianist7572]

No you dont need 64GB, 32 is enaugh. When he occasionally checks his cpu usage, you can see that he has 32gigs of ram. Even when he plays back the 8k red raw, the ram usage is 56%. But on average it was way under. So if you edit up to 6k, 32gigs is enaugh.

[@gabrielestupinan]

@@gabethepianist7572 Thanks! Good info.

[@lvc394]

What about rendering?

[@theTechNotice]

Wait for my 5700g build review and there you can see blender benchmarks. The 11900k is better, but not as much as it is more expensive.

[@linoskretzer4212]

thx for this test

[@theTechNotice]

😉👍

[@michaelray5622]

Did you enable OpenCL for AMD?

[@theTechNotice]

Yep.

[@michaelray5622]

@@theTechNotice , I think it’s a bit too early to choice either Intel or AMD because RDNA 2 has yet to actually be fully supported even with Blender. Adobe and BM are an examples of companies that still ride that dated CUDA train just because they are more familiar with it and NVIDIA sells more GPUs. That’s slowly but surely changing due to Apples M1 series, ARM + RDNA 2, AMD APUs and Intels + iGPU (technically AMD GPU) game gaining ground with more code support even though that egotistical, arrogant and sexist CEO at NVIDIA will never openly admit it.

[@theunboxnetwork]

Can you do comparison with the extreem cpu's for both Amd and Intel for video editing.

[@theTechNotice]

What do you mean by extreem CPUs?

[@theunboxnetwork]

@@theTechNotice the x series like Intel Core i9-10980XE Extreme Edition

[@jal051]

It doesn't look like the difference is that relevant, tbh. They are both similarly choppy at the same situations. Sometimes AMD is slightly choppier, but both still editable. Only the situations when the playback isn't smooth are that relevant, but it's mostly not smooth for both too, so...

[@habs]

just that he is biased towards intel...... not configuring the amd cpu as others have mentioned leaves a lot to talk about it. Maybe he doesnt know which would be a worse case scenario.

[@mohdkaleem8323]

I am going to purchase 10700k for 4kvideo editing it is good or not? plz anwer.

[@theTechNotice]

I'd go for the 11600k instead, you'll get better iGPU :)

[@nhanNguyen-wo8fy]

4k edditing: Ryzen 5700G win beautifully. Intel doing a bad job. 5k,6k edditing: Intel win all over 5K,6k. Look like AMD driver just can't work. That's why AMD lose but Intel still do a bad job. Of course I go with AMD 350$ over Intel 500$. 4k 60fps is the max for me.

[@dallatorretdu]

Talking about low-end systems... could you test 8 cores + gpu and 8 cores+igpu+gpu?

[@theTechNotice]

Depends whether you have an Intel or AMD igpu. If Intel then you can get quite a bit of boost, if AMD, not so much.

[@focuspixvideoaudioservices68]

updates?

[@NCLme]

Question can you still run a gpu with the 5700G

[@shivansh_casey]

Yess you can

[@joraphpictures]

Yes... .DaVinci resolve can utilise both GPUs

[@theTechNotice]

Yes.

[@jasonl3445]

Thanks!

[@LegendaryLife]

I think you are in complete darkness who thinks red raw is difficult to scrub but h.264 canon footage is easy🤣 to. It happens when you have so much money but very less every-thing-else. Its not only file size, it also have to do with codecs also.

[@binarykhage3243]

I think transcoding to an intermediate codec will help playback

[@theTechNotice]

Yes, always, but adds a lot of time to your workflow.

[@Player_g1]

You were using 512 mb of a VRAM bro you could have 4gb instead your benchmark on this should be revisited and with a 4gb on 5700g but it's too late maybe for a future 10 min video could be doable

[@jylobo1112]

Thank you so much

[@bilalmustafa7334]

He's using Intel i9 11th gen, his father who will pay the electricity bills 🤔

[@theTechNotice]

🤣🤣🤣👍

[@kaushikplabon8530]

Your GPU is set to 512MB UMA Buffer Size thats why its slow. Put it to its system dvram and it will be smoother I believe

[@MrChugden]

All day I've been looking for a comparison of Vega 8 and Intel HD Graphics 770. After midnight I found this video.

[@MrChugden]

If in future 5700g change to 5950x3d, then 5700g better. else HD770 better

[@Crustenscharbap]

Thanks this will show me how Davinci runs on a Deskmini.

[@lancewood1410]

5700G - price? 11900k = price?

[@smileinurhand]

In-depth explanations, thanks. RYZEN 5700G consumes a lot of power during long-term use. Say a similar Intel Processor in 2023 would be helpful. Mainly for video & Photo editing only.

[@shivansh_casey]

Amd system specs ????

[@theTechNotice]

In the description;)

[@nhanNguyen-wo8fy]

@@theTechNotice there isn't in the description!

[@NlsHanDimitri]

Thank you.

[@flaschnpost_aus_fernost9167]

WHAT OS ......? 🤦🤷

[@ksr2070]

Should have gone with i7 vs 5700g

[@minhtuannguyen4439]

Sounds unfair comparison but it's cool :D Thanks for the testing !!!

[@theTechNotice]

It kinda is indeed, but unfortunately that is the best AMD offers for the same spec. Regardless hats off for AMD for even being competitive at much lower power consumption AND pricepoint!

[@amanbhatti.]

5700g or 3700x + 1030

[@sergyb9989]

Why Ryzen 7 5700G, not 9? Ryzen 9 twice faster.

[@mentalplayground]

On a top left frame rate is always 24.

[@SergioPresents]

It's FR of timeline

[@ryosaeba3942]

In your words AMD and Intel are equal in 4k 4.2.2 AMD is smother playing 4K 60fps 10bit content AMD is better handling RAW codecs at 4K 5K and even 6K Intel is better handling 6k BRAW (AMD looks not usable) AMD "is a bit better" (your words) handling 8K RAW from Canon Conclusion: "I won't go with AMD cos it can handle BRAW properly". Most of people that use Davinci Resolve uses their propietary codec and not all the rest of the wide spread codecs mentioned and tested in this video, don't they?. Doesn't that conclusion sound a bit biased and unfair to you? Not to mention that you're comparing the performance o 2 cpus from different segments (it would have been fairer to compare the 5700g with the 11700k, besides the igpu the cpu freqs have an impact in the result you know?) and that now an 11900k is usd 350 and a 5700g is usd 200, so you're getting better performance with ALL the codecs except for BRAW for 150 usd less. For the rest in my opinion the comparison is incomplete, for better or for worse you should have included also the export times. For many people export times are more important than playback times during editing because you can "fix" a bad playbak by reducing to 1/2 or 1/4 the video preview during editing (using a proxy is an option too) but when it comes to encoding there is not much you can do to overcome the limitations of your cpu/gpu. PS. Sorry for my bad english.

[@ryosaeba3942]

BTW Merry Christmas to you too!. Except for this crappy biased video and the one on the RTX 3050 a love the content of you're channel. Creators does not have to many reviewers on YT and you occupy a unique niche, being thorough and honest will be ALWAYS appreciated for your subscribers.

[@ksr2070]

11900k vs 5700g LOL

[@ryosaeba3942]

Most dishonest and shameless review I ever saw 😂

[@theTechNotice]

What makes you think so? And Merry Christmas 🎄 ! :)

[@snopnik]

@@theTechNotice Because you haven't used processors in real tasks, with color correction. Next time, use an adjustment layer with the same grading on all the videos. Also, the test results are inconsistent with the conclusions.

[@AlanLee238]

Thanks!

[@theTechNotice]

Wow, THanks Alan! :)