Intel XMP vs AMD EXPO: What do they mean, how are they different and which is better?

Why does it matter what kind of DDR 5 RAM you’ll buy?
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[@Abra_Ka_Dabra_008]

I like the way you explain things and even go down to basic level. Subscribed! 👍

[@toddbrewer683]

Ditto

[@X-IA]

do u know a ddr5 module amd expo in white ??

[@Crossfire2003]

Kingston makes RAM kits with both XMP & EXPO profiles. Here's an example: Kingston Fury Beast KF556C36BBEK2-64.

[@danicarco]

I loved it to see your comment because I was looking for that! I was checking this model too (KF560C36BBEK2-64)

[@MrExdous69]

I have 32gb Kingston fury ddr5 rbg that’s certified for both and I LOVE IT

[@Bornfailure]

Absolutely brilliant video. So detailed and easy to understand. I did some Googling to understand the difference between the two and I didn't find anything overly useful. Then I watched this video and fully understood straight away. So thank you! :D

[@litlclutch]

Could there be issues with having memory that is 2sticks EXPO & 2 sticks XMP? Didn't notice at first when I got my new computer, AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3D with 64GB of ram. 2 32GB Corsair Vengeance 6000MHz, so 4 sticks of memory, hadn't heard about ryzen 7000's not liking lots of sticks at the time, all on a MSI ProX670-P Wifi mobo. I've had some odd behaviour. Turns out 1 ram kit was XMP & the other EXPO. Its running a fresh Windows 11 install but not everything is running perfectly. Odd behaviour happens. Like I stream and my mic is thru the Focusrite 2i2 gen 3 and since moving to the new PC viewers have been saying the mic drops out at random times. Used it on my old system and it was flawless so not sure what might be causing issues. There are other quirks too, like if I install a game from steam or several non of the icons show up on the desktop until I manually tell it to refresh or I reboot the computer. Could this be ram funny business or is there other issues going on? I do day long gaming and it mostly seems fine otherwise.

[@quavx97]

i have both options does it really matter what one i use because i have so far been having bsod issues with expo at 6000 mhz and trying xmp as i comment

[@Markzy_DM]

Both works anyway on AM5, every motherboards supports both standards.

[@GOJIRA561]

So basically as long as I’m not trying to over clock the ram I can use XMP vengeance rgb ddr5 with my asus b650a with 7800x3d?

[@Moh4n]

Both works but for default speed only which is 4800mhz. If overclock the speed using either XMP or Expo is not really guaranteed the system will be stable especially for AMD processor. Most of the time while gaming for a while, there will be a blue screen error and then the system reboots automatically.

[@PynApolJosh]

i mistakenly bought a 16x2 Trident Z5 neo DDR5 with expo, didnt know anything about that then. installed it on my motherboard. and seems to work just fine. was able to activate expo on my z790 intelbased system,

[@joseoner9169]

Same here but with amd and xmp😂

[@Kyielith]

​@@joseoner9169what happened to your system, I'm guessing it just died down the speed?

[@Mnorbert25]

Got Kingston Fury Renegade KF560C32RSAK2-32 only with XMP profile should I worry about ? No EXPO profile later I found out that has no EXPO runing on AMD 7950X !

[@attilavidacs24]

Did that mean you couldn't apply a memory profile to it?

[@jonbrown5041]

Great video. Lots of useful info here.

[@AkashAcademy-lc8vc]

Is G-Skill Ripjaws s5 ddr5 16gb compatible with ryzen 5 7600 processor? Is there any issue in ram oc? Motherboard msi pro b650m-b Ram : G-Skill Ripjaws S5 16GB DDR5 6000mhz Processor: ryzen 5 7600 Default bois time at 4800mhz: 10sec After xmp profile on the bois time : 34 sec. Is it normal or not? If not, how it can be fixed? Futher is this ram is compatible with cpu?

[@igwhomps5853]

My biggest question is, I bought some Vengeance 6000MGz for my new Am5 build and I realized not to long ago it’s Intel xmp ready, would that be a issue with a Am5 build? Or should I be fine and I’ll just have to play with them alittle bit? I don’t wanna OC my Ram honestly so I’m not sure if that makes a difference

[@mst231]

I have the VERY exact issue, i bought these: corsair vengeance 6000Mhz cl30 : CMH64GX5M2B6000C30 (XMP), but I needed these: CMH64GX5M2B6000Z30 (EXPO), its the same identic ram, just one letter differs in the code. I didn't manage to catch that up, and now the RAM won't work with my motherboard strix x670e-e and ryzen 9 processor, at least not at the desired OC speed! However , i think yes we can play with them, BUT its not the same, because EXPO offers quite dynamic entries for AMD + additional features, i believe and makes it more optimal, maybe even some performance boost. Setting those manually, even if it matches AMD EXPO profile in numbers, might be not the same result... :/

[@JohnnyBoy-sy8jt]

As he said in the video, there shouldn't be a problem; however, you're less likely to face instability issues if you get an EXPO ram kit for your AMD CPU vs an XMP kit.

[@igwhomps5853]

@@JohnnyBoy-sy8jt appreciate your feedback brother!

[@Bob-The-Guy]

Is over clocking your ram really worth the hassle for a small gain in performance?

[@kmimiteh]

Great video, thanks!

[@SzymonAdamus]

Great explanation. Thanks.

[@WhOCArEzNepTuNe]

Hello, can anyone answer me please Is this ram compatible with my mobo and cpu? G.Skill Flare X5 seried (amd expo) My processor is intel i7 13700k and my mobo is gigabyte aorus elite ax Please answer me 😔

[@seppukusenpai_1185]

Yes it is compatible, you should be fine.

[@edhikurniawan]

I don't think intel using Expo? If just the question whether the RAM works or not, the answer probably yes. With a grain of salt. But it wouldn't enjoy the faster clock speed. It will roll back to the much slower default speed. Like back then I tried a 3200Mhz ram will rolls back to 2200Mhz. It was another AMD specialized RAM card.

[@diniconights]

so if i understand correktly I only should care about this if I want to overclock my ram?

[@alcom1313]

I think I got an XMP ddr5 for my amd cpu, will this hurt my pc? I'm running it on 6000mhz.

[@kerotomas1]

Doesn't matter they are the same just have tiny bit different subtimings, both of them are just for marketing. I have a 6400/cl32 xmp kingston kit and use it at 6200 with my 7700X (as the cpu cant handle 6400 or up).

[@ScottGotSkill]

@alcom1313 same with me I think my it will be fine

[@blood4535]

But sometimes it will pose an issue when turning on after some time ... its Best if you can switch to Expo if you can...

[@vFxc]

@@blood4535source?

[@rong.2457]

So, I don’t plan on overclocking my RAM…does it really matter which format I use for my AM5 cpu?

[@eliashuhsovitz]

No, this is only important if you plan on enabling XMP or EXPO

[@arzhie100]

@@eliashuhsovitzwhat is that for?does that make the game smoother?

[@robertjif6337]

@@arzhie100 it make your ram basically run at their advertised speed, like back in ddr4 era I remember the base is 2400, while most ppl have like 3200mhz sticks, if your xmp is disabled, a 3200 ram will run at base 2400mhz speed

[@arzhie100]

@@robertjif6337 i see,i mistakenly bought the xmp ram for my ryzen 7800x3d lol Have to buy the expo ram again..

[@dynamlllilte4230]

This video is a MASTERPIECE to anyone learning about RAM ❤❤❤❤

[@mattbarnes2789]

I’ve accidentally purchased Expo ram for my new intel mobo. Will I have to sort the speeds out in my bios. Or will it not work at all?

[@ragnarokiscoming595]

Same here bit refersed ;)

[@rafaelgalera1445]

any updates .m this is happening to me today lol @@ragnarokiscoming595

[@brycenanderson355]

does ram for Intel work on an am5 motherboard with 7800x3d I can’t really find a clear answer does it just have to do with overclocking

[@digitalfruitcake24]

It will work fine, you just might have a more difficult time achieving the maximum speeds.

[@solomonmars5735]

Did this work for you? I have the same CPU, ended up getting 6000Mhz INTEL XMP on sale by accident.

[@soz4555]

@@solomonmars5735did it work my current issue ?

[@solomonmars5735]

@soz4555 Yes it works, i ended up with a INTEL kot with my 7800x3d by accident. I do however have slow boot times, without a AMD kit can definitely say it's the RAM tho. Id say i went from my old build 10 seconds to maybe 20-25

[@smailalem]

thanks

[@mgjfile]

What I think? I think Jesus Christ, it gets worse and worse, I'm building my new desktop (the last one was in 2008) and realized that RAMs are marketed for one or another company, so here I'm to figure out why. 🤦 Thanks for the explanation. tl;dr: if you don't want to freak out and buying parts by special deals and not choices, just buy RAM with EXPO with AMD CPU and XMP with Intel CPU, and deal with it.

[@NostalgicMem0ries]

forgot to mention that amd expo has issues with their own amd ryzen cpus and mobos, many users get bsod when boosting ddr5 over 5200 mhz that is safe number claimed by amd, so if you buy ddr 5 6000 7000 8000 mhz speed ram you might have issues with voltage, crashes and stability if you enable expo. intle on other hand didnt had these issues, or at least not in that magnitude as amd has now. keep in mind this.

[@__-fi6xg]

6000 mhz no issues at all

[@Trypky]

Yeah, i bought now 7800x3d and 6000mhz coursair and cant enable expo. Pc crash instantly or no sound and crash and after feww restarts its stuck on mainboard logo. Only option reset cmos on motherboard. Dont know what to do next. Bios is updated.

[@NostalgicMem0ries]

@@Trypky dont enable expo that will solve it, sadly you payed for stuff you cant use fully now :D my story with amd similar.

[@tobys593]

​@@TrypkyI think when it's stuck your rams training, leave it on boot screen for 15mins

[@nicolascooper2464]

yes xmp ddr5 corsair works very well on amd X670E on asus rog crossroad.

[@davincifpv3983]

Does enabling EXPO automatically overclock the CPU? By default CPU setting, RAM can't go over 5200

[@kinoryu9512]

Expo is strictly ram, if the ram supports it, you can enable it in the UEFI(BIOS). Say a kit of ram is rated at 6MHz, it’ll be at around 5.2MHz by default and will only run at rated 6MHz when AMD Expo is enabled

[@abigaillilac1370]

I just upgraded to a 7800X3D last night and Expo makes it run HOT 🔥🥵

[@mladisrbin5984]

wtf

[@abigaillilac1370]

@@mladisrbin5984 Expo made it run hot until I changed my fan speed settings in the bios.

[@ukann]

So if I get something like a G.Skill Ripjaws S5, does it mean that it will not run at the speed that is advertised if I put it on an AMD motherboard?

[@yosifvidelov]

Not really. i have run an intel XMP profile on a ryzen 7600X without an issue. It just works. Just make sure the ram kit is supported by your motherboard. That is the key thing.

[@not4yman]

​@@yosifvidelovI just bought the Gskill ripjaws s5 (xmp) and I'm planning on running it with my gigabyte b650m gaming x ax motherboard and ryzen 5 7600x. Will I face any issues when it comes to compatibility or reaching the 6000mhz rated speed? Will manual overclocking work?

[@yosifvidelov]

@@not4yman Should work fine with 6000 xmp profile. Update bios just in case to ensure maximum compatibility.

[@not4yman]

@@yosifvidelov I built my PC 2 days ago and it worked without any problems, thanks for the reply. I just couldn't find many topics that addressed this, I guess the gskill flare and S5 is a marketing stunt.

[@galias2068]

​@not4yman I will use it in b650 plus tuff gaming with a r7 7700x, did you have some problems using those memories ? I want to run it at 6000

[@omegarioo]

I buy ram 2x16 6000mhz xmp with ryzen 7 7700, it now run 4500 mhz. Still how tried overclock to 6000mhz manual 😅

[@qrogueuk]

AMD does like some open source (expo/free sync/fsr etc), unlike intel and nvidia etc!

[@sorin5713]

👍👍👍

[@munfurai8083]

Nice lego sets.

[@BigHelpEnergy]

First time booting of my amd cpu gpu and b650 m upgrade. And intel xmp ram is not friendly no video will post. i will see in a bit with amd expo ram😂😅

[@bonjour9747]

So XMP is Nintendo, Expo is Android games, got it!

[@vic2net]

Hahaha funny

[@lightward9487]

Mejor intel xmp es mi favorito bestia como Intel procesador i5 14600k mas monstruo son dos mejores monstruos que se pueden vencer a AMD jajajajaja

[@mst231]

for working in microsoft office ? maybe the 14900k outpasses ryzen 9 7950x for anything else in your dreams.

[@asldfjkalsdfjasdf]

So intel created a closed standard that only they can use and amd finally got fed up enough to create an open standard.

[@harryape9059]

You really should put away your toys prior to making a video, for heaven's sake, your a grown man.

[@tbas8741]

And Clearly you are not.

[@marcelspence7228]

This explanation gave me a headache