Intellivision Amico - A Dead System Walking

[@st1ka]

That Fig deal is INSANE! Who would accept that?!

[@Jenovi]

In the Best Case : A company that honestly believes their System is the next Wii in terms of sales potential, yet they don't have the funds to reach market. In the Worst Case: (Look at my Gizmondo videos)

[@st1ka]

@@Jenovi ooof

[@midimusicforever]

The same people who get dragged into MLMs to sell essential snake oils.

[@sensibleperson1979]

The project was shown to people in “investment clubs” as a pre-vetted project, and it’s clear that few of them read the fine print or thought about the absurdity of the product.

[@MixologistMilo]

Agreed, felt like a pyramid scheme being read out, wild!

[@dangerotterisrea]

Brilliantly put, this things dead in the water and Tommy and his fans seem to be talking up vaporware. I hope anybody who's pre-ordered this cashes out before it's too late.

[@IllusionSector]

Another fantastic take.

[@WrestlingWithGaming]

I didn't buy one and have no plans to, but I'd like to see the Amico succeed. However, that deal with Fig alone seems to be a death knell for them. Yikes.

[@Jenovi]

It's a fantastic deal if you honestly believe the Amico has sales potential of 100 million systems shipped. You're not going to get the money elsewhere considering the risk. I mean, think about it. If you had to take that deal to save the CD-i, you take it every time.

[@WrestlingWithGaming]

@@Jenovi hey now, at least the CD-i sold a million units

[@ccricers]

Stop Drop & Retro warned people about Fig years ago. He was on top of covering the Coleco Chameleon (didn’t use Fig but attempted crowdfunding) and so could smell bad product development a mile away.

[@Jenovi]

And only a Billion Dollars lost to get there. ❤️

[@WrestlingWithGaming]

@@Jenovi money well spent, sir!

[@roxynano]

Having the Tommy quotes underneath each reason the console’s failure really emphasize the problems of the console and the lies that public relations brought up. For those who are going to start a game development business, use Tommy’s strategy as notes on what NOT to do.

[@sensibleperson1979]

Lots of people with experience running this kind of project have suggested that to Tommy, but since he’s “such a maverick and plays by his own rules,” he had to learn it the hard way, by flopping on his face, in public, all while squandering other peoples money.

[@ccricers]

@Sensible Person his experience with Video Games Live defying expectations and possibly the big upset where Tommy ended up getting a good deal from the Roblox lawsuit must’ve made him think luck will always push him in the right direction. Plus an overly romantic view of positive thinking that he acquired from Norman Vincent Peale, one of the authors he follows for his philosophy.

[@ccricers]

I forgot to add he’s also a fan of "The Secret." That book is a testament to narcissism with its "believe it hard enough and reality will conform to your wishes" themes. So Tommy as the captain will stay within his sinking ship, but denying that it is sinking.

[@artbell259]

I listened only, so I missed how nicely the magic of the Jenovi juxtaposition. How Tommy was ignoring his own best advice. Which is completely missed in audio only. BTW: this video is 48 hours old: Discussing the Atari VCS with COO Michael Arzt -Some goofy talk of TROLLS by this exec, but they managed to win the console war. Arzt insists his device is a mini-pc. not a console nor an android box. At $300-400, he says "$800 of value costing only $400." I disagree !! I think the masses see his pitch and run out to buy a mini-pc, not his over priced VCS

[@RadicalRickEntertainment]

All our hope lies....in Cornhole.

[@Jenovi]

😂

[@videogamepolak0]

im waiting to hear that theres a "new price" and its $275 or even $300.

[@Jenovi]

I mean, I think the price is set, and is only there for the reasons I stated. So $250 it shall remain.

[@SayMyNaamee]

ONLY $399.99

[@sensibleperson1979]

If they raised the price high enough, they wouldn’t need as many buyers! You know Tallarico would pay upwards of $5000 to have “his own” intellivision.

[@videogamepolak0]

@@Jenovi why not, at this point with 2 price increases already, and how many delays? anything is possible and potentially on the table

[@midimusicforever]

"Oof" - Joey Kuras

[@Jenovi]

🤣

[@jengelenm]

The difference with Atari is, they could damage-control the financial losses on the VCS with the millions of $$ coming in on their games licenses. Which are still selling good due to the thriving retro-gaming market today!

[@F1JV]

ATARI has serious positive cash flow from multiple revenue streams & licensing deals that can be used to fund endeavors. Plus…like him or not…Chesnais departed with ATARI having zero debt which makes Wade Rosen’s vision for ATARI possible. Tommy & his IE company have “1” way cash flow…out. I don’t see how this charade can go on much longer. TT’s rocket has been sitting on the launching pad for so long now that it is rusting and falling apart. It might as well be completely redesigned by Todd & Slade at this point.

[@STR82DVD]

Agreed. They have already lost the room. The party is over. That was quick.

[@carlgrace6232]

Really enjoyed the video! I'm 6502wrangler (the guy whose post on AtariAge you showed). It was quite a surprise to see my post! I like the calm, rational way you explained the situation. I went from excited backer, eager to share the Amico with my three kids to a hyper-skeptic. Hanging around AtariAge on the Amico forum really was like living in the twilight zone and it was hard to maintain perspective. I think you nailed the situation very succinctly in the video.

[@Jenovi]

That was essentially me, but I just backed away. I was getting it regardless and most of the negativity I kept hearing wasn't really justified at the time. Man oh man, was I shocked when those "Physical Products" arrived. Anyways, I won't bang on about myself any longer. I really appreciate you watching and thank you for the comment. Love AA, but sometimes, it's a little much over there.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

Tommy's hubris alone made this system a no-go for me.

[@salozmen29]

Tommy is a huge reason why this is failing and why people are being pushed away from it.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

@@salozmen29 If there's a poor move to make with this, he's gonna go all in on it.

[@joshua.snyder]

Well articulated, and thoughtfully done, Jenovi! I've looked at this from a strictly business perspective for the last couple of years and your are right. The Amico has been dead on arrival for a while now.

[@Jenovi]

Unfortunate, but true!

[@djconvoy]

You may get yelled at for this completely reasonable video

[@BeefyBites]

How many Jenovi WAS WRONG videos should we expect? Maybe a drunken rant or two?

[@Jenovi]

Personally, I'm hoping for a weeks worth, but I'm expecting 4.

[@BeefyBites]

@@Jenovi It might actually come from like a group grieving session. So it might only be one video with a bunch of guys.

[@sensibleperson1979]

Tallarico himself will never respond to this video, because there is no response.

[@BeefyBites]

@@sensibleperson1979 Releasing a good console would be a response.

[@SuperNintendude88]

I love how well this video was presented and how clearly you made each point, it really shows how doomed the Amico is. Amazingly this could probably be a series rather than a one off video, yet bewilderingly a very small but loud group of people will still argue against it all.

[@Jenovi]

Thanks! I certainly could have spent a long time on each point breaking them into their own video. I really just tried hitting the most key points and hopped nothing important got lost.

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

@@Jenovi I'd only add the nature of their "cartridges", because that turned a lot of die hards against him. They should have been more honest about what this was, from the start.

[@opaque1797]

@@Jenovi make more vids on the amico !

[@GaggleofDoozies]

Tommy Scamarico.

[@MatSpeedle]

The way Tommy has handled interactions with critics speaks volumes as to what the problem is with this project. The truth will always out, and the truth is it was a fun idea, very poorly excecuted.

[@DrGamelove]

Yeah, attacking Nintendo and flat out lying about his product while gaslighting gamers…

[@JohnSegerclucka]

@@DrGamelove Tommy is a man with more issues than Reader's Digest

[@sensibleperson1979]

I agree with the “very poorly executed” part, but was it ever a good idea? It was “I will sell video game consoles to people who don’t want to buy video game consoles.” I think there’s a small flaw in that approach. At least he had the sense to know that a new Intellivision with HDMI, digital overlays, and the 40-year-old ROMs wasn’t going to cut it.

[@ccricers]

He is a guy that has a very hard time saying “no” to his fans and he over-promises. That’s why you hire PR, because you can take time to sleep on things you wish to say before saying them and PR will give you their judgment.

[@MatSpeedle]

@@sensibleperson1979 I never said it was a good idea, fun yes, but absolutley not a good one...

[@BeefyBites]

Thank you for your fair and honest take.

[@Jenovi]

Thank you Mr Beefy!, for watching, Retro Impressions.

[@tYNS]

This video sums it up perfectly.

[@fordxbgtfalcon]

I canceled my preorder last year with the most recent delay. Just got tired of the seemingly endless delays.

[@JohnSegerclucka]

Absolutely outstanding video! You hit all the points right on the head!

[@Jenovi]

Thank you John.

[@dennett316]

The Amico has been a disaster from the start. Nobody cares about Intellivision other than a niche of a niche audience of older gamers who think gaming died in 1983. That Tallirico has decided to spin this as a Wii-style success just waiting to be unleashed is unfathomably delusional. It's a scam at this point. This was made clear with his selling of crappy cardboard boxes, cheap coins and a plastic card and daring to call that physical media. It was trying to scrape some cash back from boxes and tat they had made before it all went tits up...a cash grab. Remember when he said it was hardware constraints due to Covid that was holding things up, everything else was ready to go? That was a long time ago now, and was later revealed to be a lie considering the state of all the launch games that are clearly still unfinished. Hell, the UI is still unfinished. This was never about hardware shortages, they just hadn't come close to getting anything finished due to lack of talent, lack of manpower and lack of focus on what they wanted this console to be and who it was for. If they truly believe they can capture the casual market with expensive, underpowered hardware when everyone has mobile phones that play all the casual games anyone could ever need for a fraction of the cost of Amico games, then they were always going to lose their ass on this project.

[@CandisClassicGameShrine]

Another wonderful video! It’s sad because I was initially hopeful for this thing but it became apparent pretty quickly that it was not going to be what it claimed it would be.

[@roxynano]

I was intrigued by the console especially when you compare it to the Atari VCS (Ataribox at the time), Amico began with a more professional presentation in comparison to Atari in which Atari was viewed as the scammers at the time. It was a solid start to the brand with intrigue and not much negativity. (It was either positivity or skepticism) However modern Atari, (some how), actually released the VCS. Meanwhile all that positivity turned even more toxic with each little lie that Tommy & Intellivision expresses. The more lies we were told and the more we are disappointed, the more slimy this whole situation makes me feel.

[@DaveVoyles]

I work in games publishing at Microsoft for our first and third-party publishers. I am confident that most people creating and backing these kinds of projects completely underestimate exactly how difficult it is to not only publish a game, but then to manage the relationships and products of those publishers.

[@Mike.Garcia]

Oh if only you saw the pitch video from early 2021, they have Jay Allard, 600 years of experience, the rocket is on the launch pad, TT doesn't lose... If you didn't know TT is a very creative and loose talker, you would have invested too 😂 no doubt!

[@opaque1797]

@@Mike.Garcia yeh tommy is a , you know , con man !

[@gdubbz884]

Thanks for your service, comrade

[@Islandswamp]

Hey Dave. I agree with you and also want to say that it’s wicked cool that you work in game publishing! My son has an Xbox series X and he really enjoys it.

[@DaveVoyles]

@@Islandswamp it’s a fun place to work!

[@gmti486]

Terence Talamenca is probably throwing a tantrum over this video.

[@Cueya]

Hey guy thanks for helping me show the record to people on Twitter ❤️ means a lot to me I been a fan of your stuff for years since before all this, cause I'm an old school 32x guy

[@ThatOldTV]

For me, I lost interest in the Amico when their physical media turned out to be a download. After that, I was like... I'll pass.

[@SegaSnatchers]

Right now you got 3 camps interested in the Amico all for different reasons. 1. Original INTV fans who are excited to see reimagined INTV games on Amico. 2. People who befriended Tommy during the last 2 - 3 yrs while he was doing a ton of interviews with small youtube channels. Some of these people were even critical of the Amico before meeting Tommy and becoming "pals". RetroBro is a good example of that. These people would not care about Amico or the games if they didn't form a relationship with Tommy. 3. The critics like you and myself who just sees all the weirdness, drama and flaws surrounding the Amico. The hardware itself, the games, the people working on it and the strange cheerleaders defending Amico and Tommy at all costs just because Tommy acknowledged them.

[@bigdaddygamestudio5007]

Those Fig terms are brutal.

[@Jenovi]

It's hard to swallow just reading it.

[@northsta]

Wii U paved the way for the Nintendo’s juggernaut Switch. Amico looks like a scam

[@mindofarobot414]

It's interesting how Tommy thinks he can make bold and false assumptions about Nintendo's customer base, while not having a customer base of his own. Genius said Switch was only for hardcore gamers and wouldn't sell like the Wii. Completely wrong on all counts like he always is.

[@Gorilla_Jones]

WiiUs issue was the stupid name. The hardware was pretty brilliant.

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

@@Gorilla_Jones The hardware was a tiny bit less powerful than PS3 and 360, meaning it was expensive to develop big games for, and ports would be difficult. It should have been the Switch hardware from the start. The Wii blew away PS2 and Gamecube, even if the advantages weren't immediately obvious when compared to how underpowered it was for a new generation.

[@Gorilla_Jones]

@@juststatedtheobvious9633 I’m not speaking of the hardwares power.

[@Colith1]

My wife pre ordered this for me as a Christmas gift. It never came. I did my own research and begged her to cancel her pre order and get her money back. This thing was a failure from the start.

[@Jenovi]

😅

[@gdubbz884]

Bang on with your points. Just waiting for intellivision to give us the inevitable update and close up shop. If they had anything to show for, they would have - as what they've shown so far leaves much to be desired. Wonder if we are even going to get our preorder deposits back....

[@Wulfpack1]

Now Amico die-hard's are defending Tommy and stating people are idiots and morons that are to dumb to understand the only reason they do not have an Amico in their hands is because the supply chain & chip shortages are holding him back. There is so many things wrong with that notion. Too many to fit into a comment section. One would be. Why would he be sourcing chips so late and after all of the missed launches? Another is that this has been going on for quite some time now and many companies are have placed focus on sourcing their chips from multiple suppliers to keep up with their production. Plus the chip the Amico uses was said to be a chip that the Samsung Galaxy 7 Used. If so that is a legacy chip and shouldn't be in short supply. The chip shortage is only in regards to chips currently being manufactured which the G7 chip is not. I can go on and on. I was wondering what you think about this explanation they are using?

[@Jenovi]

Great excuse and sounds better than the truth.

[@shoshana7369]

What a mess this thing has become. I've not kept up with all the details but each time I hear about the Amico, it's never good news. And I know producing hardware and building an entire console ecosystem isn't easy but they must be hurting for cash badly if they took the Fig deal and those (impossible to come back from?) terms. At this point the Amico might just be a stone that is being squeezed for blood and I'm not sure there's anything left to give. What a shame, what a waste of a potentially neat idea and challenger to the status quo, what a world. Well researched video though!

[@ny_retro4971]

Also, enjoyed the BGM in the video. Felt like i was watching Interstellar 😆

[@michaels9917]

Tommy is going to freak out when he watches this. Great video!

[@Jenovi]

Thank you

[@GeneralGorillaSonicOC]

"Gaming racist"

[@HappyMealBieber]

Tommy probly watched it 5 times by now . im surprised he hasnt made a 50 min response video like he did with CU pod cast lol

[@jameswalt1]

Amazing video as always. Would love to see some more "business model" videos. Not sure what topics, but more depth on failed console's business models would be great, or failed game releases. You're amazing dude, here's to a great 2022.

[@opaque1797]

this was a great video --- he should do more amico vids !

[@Jenovi]

I've done a few as you likely know. The real issue is there's not always access to the records required to properly cover something like this. Anyways, thanks for checking this out and for being a long time supporter.

[@jameswalt1]

@@Jenovi Yeah I can imagine the research process is far more difficult when it pertains to the business, and sales side of things. That information is nowhere near as "readily" available as development and production info. Thanks again for all you do man, I never miss a video.

[@RetroSho]

We will definitely have to see what will happen. I've always maintained that the Amico has the right to exist as any other project, but the absolute circus going on behind it is a major issue. Before they would have people come out and say that the issue is lack of components and the pandemic. Now in 2022 almost all of the Amico's contemporaries have released to date, or are very near release. It isn't fair at times to compare the Amico to say... PS5 or XBSX, but it's a fair to compare it to the Switch, and even the Wii before it. There seems to be nothing in the library that will grab attention aside from the few fans who are really into it. Alternatively, if the marketing hasn't truly started for the console... when are they expecting to do so? Great video brother! Though I am shocked you made another one concerning it. Could have sworn you said you were done on this topic. 👀

[@Jenovi]

I mean, I was. There wasn't anything else to be said after that video. However, looking into it since then, it's just too wild not to discuss. I mean, most of my channel is about systems just like the Amico, but looking back after they failed. This is happening in real-time and with a level and transparency (unintentionally so) that's mind-blowing. So, I won't keep beating a dead horse, but I certainly like discussing topics that pique my interest enough to edit a video for multiple days. I hope you enjoyed this one.

[@billcook4768]

You’ve put way too much thought into this. Kinda like me putting out a video outlining all the reasons my doughy 54-year old body is not going to make it in the NBA next year. Of course it’s dead console walking. The only question is whether the team is incompetent, or if this has been a scam from the start.

[@opaque1797]

it`s the second one!

[@Jenovi]

That's kinda funny right there.

[@beefjerky7154]

lmao this is going to piss off the cultists

[@opaque1797]

haha i bet they are seething on their d-iscord circle j-erk ! 😆

[@SegaSnatchers]

Tommy Tallarico weeps. Another great video Jenovi!

[@Jenovi]

Thanks!

[@MisfitOutfit]

In depth, non biased information. Thanks Jenovi. To the point and easy to digest for those wanting to be in the know. Thank you sir for the time taken to make videos. All of them in general.

[@Jenovi]

You sir, are very welcome.

[@youdontneedtoseehisidentif4939]

I'm a gamer and a programmer, and this thing is so far off of my radar that I first learnt of it from your channel; the more I learn about it, the more I think that if I wanted to own a failed console from a company with questionable morals, I'd buy a second-hand Jaguar instead - at least the Jag' had at least three games that I think that I'd enjoy..!

[@XanthinZarda]

At least you know what you're getting with the Jag. Intellivision has been cagey about the specs of the Amico since it was announced. We "know" but there isn't just a spec sheet sitting in the public light.

[@opaque1797]

@@XanthinZarda there was a spec sheet , then i exposed it on my channel , and ars technica got hold of it too !

[@Jenovi]

🤠 There's more than three. If you ever pull the trigger on that itch for a console from an ethically questionable console, let me know.

[@MaxaMillion711]

Excellent video. Appreciate the research and the calm and rational delivery.

[@greenkoopa]

Jenovi is the chillest retro channel on the Tube, he has to be because he loves the sega addons 🐢

[@Jenovi]

🤣

[@josephpiedmonte]

That opening quote.. the Switch just outsold the Wii so.. uhhhhhhh.

[@SoCalBIGmike]

If anything, Jenovi is being understated and kind. The actual price is up to $299 now for the 'good' Amico and I know of absolutely no one who would pay that vs an Xbox Series S w/ Game Pass. Like Jenovi stated the math simply doesn't add up.

[@XanthinZarda]

Especially when you consider how much of the Amico's library has freeware replacements on other platforms. Who wants to pay for a rote, note by note Moon Patrol?

[@Jenovi]

The wood grain being the good one?

[@opaque1797]

@@Jenovi yes , the `founders' edition` , then the $280 gamestop `purple` amico is next ! 😬😆

[@Gorilla_Jones]

Excellent work Jenovi. I’m really surprised at Tommy. Back when I worked in the industry in the mid 90s he was so amicable at the E3 parties. Kinda crazy how this is turning out, it’s almost like he is hurting for cash, but I don’t think so. Something isn’t right.

[@thecunninlynguist]

Ego. Bet this is the first time he's been in charge like this

[@LelandReview]

I could be wrong but I think Video Games Live is also run on crowdfunding. I volunteered for a VGL show in my city and it tanked. I think it lost more money then it made. More people were performing on stage then in the seats to watch it. Feels like Tommy's touch of gold wore off a few decades ago. And he faced getting a real job or start a get rich quick scheme. I was hoping him and Vic would team up again for EP to review video games. Seems that is what Tommy has always done best.

[@joshua.snyder]

Being a pseudoceleb and tripping over long past fame will do that. He has almost no self-awareness.

[@XanthinZarda]

Unfortunately, he's been two faced since at least 2003; there's posts of him on the ancient IGN boards of him behaving rather immaturely.

[@LelandReview]

@@XanthinZarda I do miss immature Tommy. After he got married he changed. But I guess that happens to a lot of guys that aren't single anymore.

[@DanJackson1977]

How much money has been siphoned out of investors with Vaporware retro reboot systems over the last few years? It must be profitable because they keep popping up every year or so. Atari VCS, Intiellivision, Coleco... I expect to hear about an 'Othello 'Multivision' reboot any day now. Then the year after that.. "Fairchild Channel F." I was a kid in the 80s, and even I have zero interest in the Intellivision brand other than maybe getting a compilation of classic ITV games on the Switch.. which I'd probably play for one evening and delete it.

[@N8_THN]

Can't believe that the Intellivision Amico is just the Ouya but with a worse controller. I didn't even think that was possible.

[@XanthinZarda]

A controller, with no face buttons. You can't even play Street Fighter on it.

[@Jenovi]

Yeah.... that's about right.

[@Choralone422]

After seeing what you and other people on YT received a few months ago from Amico it's not at all a surprise to see this video. It was VERY clear back then that the Amico wasn't a complete outright scam but it wasn't terribly far away from one. Let's just be frank, it takes a LOT of money to launch a game console with original games for it. I am not talking about a "retro" console that mostly plays ROMs or is a bring your own game sort of deal. I think using the Atari Jaguar and Wii U as examples was very fitting. Another thing working against a launch of the Amico in the US in the near future is the rampant inflation we've been experiencing here lately. This doesn't affect those that pre-ordered an Amico but at least for me due to inflation there simply isn't as much "fun money" available. I'm going to stick with what I already have even as a mature gamer who has played everything from the Magnavox Odyssey & Atari 2600 all the way to present day consoles. In areas where the cost of living is lower (and so are the wages) $200 is still a fair amount of money to waste on something that's clearly DOA.

[@Jenovi]

Spot on, thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@MarioMan-iw7xl]

With Xbox Series S and Gamepass…systems like Amico don’t stand a chance.

[@opaque1797]

*$250-280 (Amico cost , no extra games)

[@SuperNicktendo]

Interesting take. I do believe this is the last year they can make it without producing any evidence that they have this thing coming out. While chip shortages are a thing, Similar companies have been able to ship products or at the very least showcase software in its near final form to assure people that the system is worth waiting for. Amico is still floundering around with a handful of games in various states of production and we have no indication that it will ship this year.

[@opaque1797]

make a vid on it Nick !

[@Jenovi]

We are quickly approaching Q2. The system isn't shipping in Q1 as last stated.

[@opaque1797]

@@Jenovi it won`t release in Q3 either !

[@joshua.snyder]

Amico chip shortages and those that temporarily setback some things in the market aren't the samething. Intellivision gambled that they'd be able to get an old, retiring chipset on the cheap, but didn't anticipate not being able to order enough to keep those sets being produced. They didn't do their homework and it bit them. Now it is just a matter of how long they bleed out until bankruptcy. Amico is dead.

[@Reaperman4711]

Wow, I had no idea the business side was that bad. And this isn't even covering the rumblings I'm hearing of possible technical issues. If Amico comes out, I'll still look into it more than I have been, but everything that has been getting through to me is pretty bad. I like moon patrol, but I'm probably not buying a system for it.

[@MadPanicGaming]

Wow. I hadn't considered a lot of what you addressed here, I just thought this thing looked like a rinky dink little plug & play for the modern age with a ridiculous price tag. All things considered though, it looks more like a bad idea bundled with awful management and misleading advertising all along the way. I wasn't particularly interested in this thing, but I think you're spot on, I can't imagine many people wanting to spend $250+ on it. Looks like a crash and burn.

[@Jenovi]

I think Jimmy Hapa knew that back in... I think 2018, when we sat down for the presentation at PRGE. He left about 10 minutes in.

[@NinjaKittyRetro]

Solid video, I'm sure the loyal Amico fans will nitpick on the few inaccuracies in the video but by and large I can't fathom how they can twist or spin that Fig/Republic investment deal into any sort of positive? The project is/was doomed from the get-go and I can't see any possible path with a happy end where the product lives on.

[@Jenovi]

I mean, it's understandable why they took it. There's no other way forward for the company, and they honestly believe this will sell 100million units. At least, that's the most logical reason. For all the other reasons listed, that will never happen. Fig may recoup its money due to the way this is structured, but it's going to be painful, and there's 0 chance the Amico survives without outside financial help or accusation.

[@MarioMan-iw7xl]

It’s never gonna sell 10 million, or even 1 million units. But INTV never was that popular and the games shown can’t compete even with AAA mobile games.

[@NinjaKittyRetro]

@@Jenovi this is where the Fundable fundraising will raise the money to help rob Peter to pay Paul. At one point in 2021, Tommy was quoted that he had millionaires salivating at the idea of investing with Intellivision... this appears to have never came to fruition.

[@opaque1797]

@@Jenovi * acquisition ( not `accusation`) !

[@opaque1797]

@@NinjaKittyRetro the cultists say `no-one`s forcing you to invest` 😉

[@poboxchristmas380]

This was a very sobbering look into the whole Amico debacle, especially when you look at the current assessments from the Amico's inner circle. Snestastic, aka The Amico Kid is predicting 100M in Amico sales while Jon The Retro Bro, who is Intellivision's Official Public Relations guy (allegedly) still maintains that the Toejam and Earl game is still coming to Amico. My personal opinion is that nobody involved with the Amico wants to give any kind of updates on games like TJ&E, EWJ, Discs of Tron, Kung Fu Master, etc as they know they aren't happening and they don't want the facts to have any impact on the upcoming 3rd crowdfunding effort. Tallarico clearly promised games as being released at launch or shortly thereafter in interviews and now we see many have already to be proven to have not even gotten off the ground in any way. The Amico inner circle are seriously blaming Covid and chip shortages for SOFTWARE not being completed that they claimed was already completed. Their own information provided via Fig showed the system and games were incomplete and had nothing to do with chip shortages in any way. 5 minutes worth of research would completely expose this entire thing.

[@Jenovi]

Hey, I'm still waiting on news regarding Miner 49er. I think the reality is, they want these games to happen, but development contracts for 1st and 2nd party games require up-front cash. Something Intellivion is lacking. So what's the next step? If you believe this system will sell 100million units on name alone, you put everyone off, launch the system, start selling the hotcakes, and continue on developing these pet projects. You already know the elephant in the room though, and this isn't going to happen. For folks like me, it's a bit disappointing as I enjoy most of the games they want to revisit, but it's clear this project is DOA.

[@poboxchristmas380]

​@@Jenovi Totally agree. The defenders of Tallarico say that Tommy was just being super positive and trying to get all of the great games on the system that he can and Yes, I can totally understand that logic. I could agree with that logic if it were not for the fact that Tommy specifically gave out time frames for the games. He was legit saying 'at launch' or 'at launch or right after launch' on big name games, even putting some in the order in which they will release. It's one thing to have a wishlist or say you're pursuing a franchise, but once you start ad-libbing in specifics like that while crowdfunding, I have to call foul. Watching those interviews back, it is completely damning.

[@opaque1797]

@@poboxchristmas380 goose`s investor vid was very revealing !

[@poboxchristmas380]

@@opaque1797 you have got to admit that it was Irish actress Amy Shiels greatest acting job yet: hot mom w/ American accent who wants to buy her kids an Amico. That had to require some serious focus and deication to walk the razor's age of method acting and pure chaos.

[@poboxchristmas380]

@Robert Shmigelsky they probably shouldn't have gone with the narrative of it being the second coming of the Wii. The second coming was already Wii U and we know how that went. lol

[@petermacnab1871]

I better get my founders edition deposit back !

[@StuffWePlay]

This is one of the best looks at the whole Amico saga on KZbin

[@arcadeages3917]

My heart sunk when you shared the terms of the Fig contract

[@Jenovi]

It's..... shocking.

[@googleboughtmee]

I don't know, man. You made some good points, but John Riggs said it's really cool so now I don't know what to believe.

[@poboxchristmas380]

I know for me personally, when I think of 'really cool', I automatically think: John Riggs.

[@Jenovi]

I like John Riggs, good dude.

[@googleboughtmee]

@@Jenovi yeah he does seem to be, it was just the first name I could think of for a youtuber that was championing the Amico. just poking a little fun :) sorry JR if you read this!

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thinking a thing is cool and expecting it to be successful aren't mutually exclusive. I think (and thought at the time) the 3DO is cool, but I always understood why it failed.

[@googleboughtmee]

@@SameNameDifferentGame I think it's more to do with him just being friends with Tommy. Comparing it with the 3DO is being generous IMO :)

[@thecunninlynguist]

It was dead on conception. Tommy is a fool. An entertaining fool, but a fool nonetheless. His voicemail version on pat's podcast is funny as hell though

[@GaggleofDoozies]

I might pick up a Amico after it crashes and burns......like in a $50 bargin bin.

[@rdavisct1986]

im my opinion the Amico is a case of "too little too late". 15 to 20 years ago it would have probably sold like hotcakes. Its just not impressive in any way , it comes off as one of those "As seen on tv" gaming products geared towards some generic "pg" family rather than an advanced innovative game system that could be a real competitor in todays market. edit: Ha ! . i just hear you say the line "too little too late" after i already typed the same thing in this comment towards the amico.

[@DrGamelove]

Be careful Jenovi, you can’t say this stuff without pissing off a certain group of KZbinrs… just like you can’t praise it without pissing off another group. KZbin is silly. I’m all for new competitors but one hundred percent the Amico does seem like it’s already failing. I think it could have been cool in theory. I’ve spent years waiting to be impressed but it just isn’t happening. Meanwhile Tommy wins the award for worst PR spokesman for a video company ever.

[@mindofarobot414]

I don't know about anybody else, but I'll listen to this long before watching the crazy eyed amateurs foaming at the mouth.

[@XanthinZarda]

Don't forget that they're obligated to send 100 demonstration units as per contractual obligations. As for your points: 1) You're not going to beat a literal toy company at their own game. Nintendo has been doing _withered technology_ since before Tommy was born. Before _Mario_ existed. And if they can't beat their own game, nobody will. 2) The best chance the Amico had was Earthworm Jim. With Toejam & Earl off the table, and EWJ nowhere to be found, your next best is... _[Frantic paper shuffling, sound of door opening and closing, peelout.]_ Also, I'd argue that Jaguar fumbled the marketing by condescending to it's userbase. Like the Amico. And the problem with these remakes of old titles is that there are better versions; all of the Amico games look like something you'd find on a mid-2000s shovelware CD, like the ValuSoft Millennium Gamepak Gold. 3) When a gag order would be a massive gain for the system's PR, you know it's already in troubled waters. Comparing his failure to launch the Amico to the struggles of MLK is a special kind of tone deaf, especially when Tommy also celebrates the genocidal pirate Columbus. 4) When German funding grants are seen as a massive boon to the system's development (not even to the tune of a million dollars), this sort of screams problems. Grants which I might add, were gained under the pretence of an unattainable system; the Karma Engine. Which Tommy is on record of having admitted doesn't actually exist. It'd be great if the CFO who has the spare time to try and verbally punch Mark Hamill would release a spreadsheet of finances to the public, instead of picking fights in comment sections. Of course, since great people like Neil Patel and Teeka Tiwari leading the charge (both of whom run predatory "tipster" services where you pay 1k a year to be lead to bunk investements), I'm sure it's all in good hands. Also, scratch and reverse. Republic bought Fig, after the Amico endebited the company for several million dollars. 5) Clubhouse games and a Switch Lite cost less than the whole Amico. This is the main point I've been using as the albatross of price. You get 51 games, many of which are even the same as, if not better outright to what the Amico offers. Who wants to purchase pool alone when most companies include that with several other games? It's a toxic value proposition where the Amico library is _negative._

[@Jenovi]

Thanks for the great comment. BTW, Clubhouse games is a solid buy.

[@hetnkik999]

lol, those Fig and Republic contracts are bananas. Who would even offer those terms? Intellivision signed themselves up for student loan debt.

[@opaque1797]

smash jt used to sell worthless student loans for colleges like DeVry . .

[@thaddeuscosse9527]

This was a fantastic and well delivered video. You really made some solid arguments here. That fig deal is insane...

[@Jenovi]

Much appreciated, Thank you for watching.

[@xbrandon2252]

Even when the amico is dead and over there will still be the crazy cult like fans denying the facts and twisting the truth

[@opaque1797]

Amico forever ! 😬😆

[@poboxchristmas380]

you can 100% count on it.

[@thenewreviewdotnet]

I believe this will go down as one of the biggest scams in gaming. Now, we just sit back and wait for all the lawsuits.

[@FrogTony]

This video articulates everything in a way I only wish I could. 10/10 would watch again.

[@Jenovi]

Thanks Tony, aka my good friend I was having a discussion with the other night.

[@FrogTony]

@@Jenovi No worries man. I hope you can hop on stream with us Saturday.

[@opaque1797]

🐸🐸🐸😆

[@Jenovi]

Very unlikely as I work 9am-2am-ish the first two Saturdays of every month. I'll get on one soon though.

[@FrogTony]

@@Jenovi We'll figure something out bro.

[@richardhutnik]

The idea of launching a couch play to gather friends together... in the middle of a pandemic is a bad idea. That is the Amico. It goes downhill from there.

[@SegaSnatchers]

Only criticism I have for this video is I think your background music is way too epic and emotional for the topic on hand lol.

[@Jenovi]

🤣 Yeah, I get listening to a sound track and that ends up finding it's way into a video. I can't help it.

[@SegaSnatchers]

@@Jenovi LOL, no worries.

[@BernardoOne]

That Fig deal is quite something, wow. Even if this somehow actually comes out it literally won't make any money.

[@PKInTheUniverse]

I’m really enjoying the heck out of the Evercade VS , and funny enough playing Intellivision games on it . Even though the Wii U wasn’t successful for a myriad of reasons it’s still a really enjoyable experience and one of my favorite consoles ever. I love that you compared the Wii U to the Amico . I made this comparison in a video 10 months ago, and was told by an overzealous Amico enthusiast that I shouldn’t be comparing it to the Wii U. It really is doing all the wrong things the Wii U did and none of the right ones. It’ll be interesting to see where it goes. To me it’s completely bonkers that they chose to make a console first and not just make games first for other platforms and then launch a console eventually. Even Nintendo made games for the arcade Before launching the Famicom . I really hope they do get acquired because I would like to see these games on other platforms because I am a huge fan of retro reimagined, but their lineup is just so weak. I don’t see a single game on there that couldn’t be played with traditional controller . I’ve tried again and again to make this thing makes sense. When it comes out I’d like to get one at some point, but I’m not a day one adopter. Heck I didn’t think the Wii was worth buying until it dropped to $150 and had Mario kart Wii included, so this is pretty typical of me. this thing has been so mismanaged. Nobody wants to actually see it fail in spite of what the pro Amico people say, it’s just the things that happen around it are so absurd, and the excuses that keep being made about it are unbelievable. There is no way these things are launching Q1. I just don’t see that happening.

[@Jenovi]

Loving my VS too, and so do the kids (I do have four, so technically, I'm the Amico's target demo twice). Really appreciate you words here and recent Wii U coverage. I really loved that system and was disappointed it couldn't find a spot in marketplace.

[@PKInTheUniverse]

@@Jenovi yeah my son who is 5 years old is loving the VS , he’s been obsessed with Tanglewood and we also like doodle world , Twin Dragons and foxy land . Every once in a while we put in the technos Arcade collection and play some double dragon 3 . My next video is definitely gonna be an Evercade video, but I do have some more Wii U videos planned for this year .

[@Jenovi]

@@PKInTheUniverse heck yeah 🤠

[@craigjanssen371]

This was incredibly well researched and presented. Do you still have your preorder for the Amico as an avid collector or have you bailed?

[@Jenovi]

Still have the preorder in. I'm not baling, but the situation is clear. Not sure how collectable a digital only system will be. Looking at the Ouya, it's kinda unwanted as there's no simple way for a casual user to experience games on it. That will likely be the case here too unless you want the pack in games, and they are indeed preloaded.

[@Jenovi]

Thank guy has a great voice, also, I'm shocked at the view count for an Ouya video. 😳

[@jmullner76]

Brutal... but well put forth. Wonder if Tommy is doing a "Producers"...?

[@Jenovi]

Thanks! BTW, what’s a “Producers”?

[@jmullner76]

@@Jenovi Mel Brooks "The Producers" from 1967. Zero Mostel and Gene Wilder purposely get money from investors and make a horrid theater show in order to keep all the investments since it is a bust. Or so is their plan.

[@Jenovi]

Sounds like a solid movie.

[@opaque1797]

@@jmullner76 it sounds like tommy watched that movie before announcing the amico !

[@opaque1797]

RIP Amico ☠️⚰️🪦

[@sensibleperson1979]

How do you kill something that was never alive?

[@XanthinZarda]

@@sensibleperson1979 With a stake though the heart; like the typical undead. Lacking a heart, demolish the head.

[@ReccaK]

Guess the "haters" were right all along, who'd have thunk it?

[@SegaSnatchers]

Seems like my initial critical comments at Tommy's AA thread about 3 yrs ago aged well.

[@opaque1797]

you can`t lie to the internet and expect to get away with it !

[@WhatAboutZoidberg]

Listen to this man, he knows failures...he has a Gizmondo behind him lol. Great video! I follow other channels that follow the Amico saga as it unfolds, but this is a very calm, collected take. I think it will release, but maybe about as much as the Atari vcs has but its such a poorly thought out system.

[@FrogTony]

He has 3 Gizmondos!

[@Jenovi]

....... Yeah, what of it? 😆

[@Jenovi]

Thanks! Luck I didn't pull out the Game.Com there.

[@FrogTony]

@@Jenovi It's 3 too many! Lol

[@Jenovi]

You watch your mouth Tony before I ban you to the Game.com for a week.

[@MarquisDeSang]

Telling developers how much they can sell their games, what style are allowed (no pixel art allowed) and they have to use all the stupid motion, touch screen and light gimmick, is the best way to scare the dev away.

[@opaque1797]

there was never any real intention to properly hire or contract outside developers .

[@michaelkaminski84]

The entire concept was doomed from the start, there was no market. If you want a family console you get the Nintendo Switch, end of story, nothing can compete with Nintendo, but beyond this, no one under the age of 40 can remember the Intellivision because we weren't born when it was around. The Intellivision fanbase of 1983 are now 50 year old Gen X'ers like Tommy, they don't have kids. The Millennial's that are now having kids grew up with stuff like Super Nintendo and Playstation in the 90s and if they want to play short, rudimentary video games for free we have phones on us all the time.

[@ThePoorMansRetroGameRoom]

I really appreciate you non biased view on this. Thank you for this video.

[@Jenovi]

Thank you for the comments and for watching. 🤠

[@StormsparkPegasus]

Hoo boy, that quote about the Switch vs the Wii didn't age well at all...Tommy needs to stick to music and not try to get into a business he doesn't understand. The Wii also wasn't the success everyone seems to think. Yes, it sold a lot of hardware. Software sales (especially third party) were absolutely abysmal. Most Wii's were bought for Wii Sports and then collected dust. It had a very small number of good games from Nintendo, but things like Mario Kart and Smash were the only ones that actually sold.

[@salozmen29]

Excellent video. Well researched, & intelligent thought out points. Tommy is a huge reason why this is going in the tank. He is the most unprofessional "CEO" I've ever seen. I don't know how anyone trusts a word he says. For the money this thing costs, no parents are buying their kid one of these. They are going right to the Switch.

[@Greentunic84]

I don't understand how Tommy, a person who knows the industry so well, wouldnt have planned this out better. They should have just made games. Not a full system

[@mindofarobot414]

He clearly doesn't know the industry well at all, though he desperately wants to think he does. You have to actually work in it rather than hang around the periphery paying other people to do things and patting yourself on the back for other people's accomplishments.

[@Allen.Christian]

I'm not sure why so many people seem to think a composer/TV host "knows the industry so well." His closest analogue in the film and television world is John Tesh, and I wouldn't trust Tesh to run NBC/Universal or launch his own network.

[@midimusicforever]

Does he know the industry tho?

[@sensibleperson1979]

He gives a surface impression of being well connected and knowing the industry well, but if you scratch the surface, his “accomplishments” are a mile wide and an inch deep. The “awards” are extra dubious. How come he hasn’t worked on any actual games for over 15 years? How come we never see him actually playing music, live, without a backing track? He’s pretty good at publicity but he really overestimated his appeal and level of persuasiveness to people with a nose for BS.

[@XanthinZarda]

Well...when he has to fake claiming the creation of a sound in a failed 2000s video game to give himself clout (He didn't, it was the other sound designer who was working on Messiah), it does speak volumes.

[@taionalmeida5337]

DUDE YOU ABSOLUTELY DELIVERED! I was one that was "It sounds Fine" with the concept reveal back them. I was thinking "well, is not dificult nor so expensive to have pixel ART like the Neo Geo on High Res today. They can Take a not Very powerfull smartphone hardware put an HDMI out and controlers and make It a Nice console once It has some games and personality" The Idea Of no micro transactions was good. Cheap gaming aquisitions - price tag from 3 to 13 dollars ... Thats pretty inclusive for a Full game, on the likes Of 80's and 90's game But ... This concept never Go round ... They seem to be targeting 70's game instead Of 90's and 80's ... I don't think this would be a good route, that kind Of gaming lacks personality, charisma ... Were Just competiting for higher Scores ... No plumbers trying to save the day ... Nothing human to relate ... Not dificult to understant why was so Easy to clone that classic gaming experiences even at the time - they where too Basic! So I thought - well If they do a High Res Wii Like, with that same kind Of Control, that would not be se expensive nowdays and still would be sorta cheap to both produce games and hardware ... Maybe this would Go a good route ... Again ... NOPE ... Dude ... Nothing original on the controls ... The visuals... Gaming mechanics ... Absolute zero personality ... And after 4 years no Killer App games ... Ok's I even forget from times to times to see If there's something New ... Atari VCS was released and Amico not ... Thats pretty bad ...

[@Jenovi]

Thanks for the comment. Yeah, I was 100% sure the VCS was a scam and the Amico would ship. Now I own the VCS and the Amico will likely never ship.

[@ny_retro4971]

Great video, Jenovi. I'm sure Tallarico and his investor buddies called you a "hater" for this.

[@Jenovi]

Hoping so.

[@fnregistration]

Wow, Fig is going to end up owning Intellivision. I am not the target market for the Evercade but at least it's a real product that you can buy today and buy games for today and play them to your heart's delight.

[@XanthinZarda]

Or Republic is going to end up bankrupt, like Fig.

[@MrTBoneSF]

Maybe that explains the news that Intellivision set up a new LLC in Delaware. Transfer all the "assets" to the new LLC in Delaware with its laws that tend to shield companies and its officers from investors/consumers, and then leave all the liability with the old company that declares bankruptcy. It's the new version of "doing a Producers".

[@meetoo594]

Evercade have actually impressed me tbf. When it launched with a load of crappy nes ports rather than proper arcade versions I wrote it off as another rubbish Nes clone system but they have really risen to the challenge of late with a varied catalogue of games including arcade roms. I'm still not interested in it but hats off to them for supporting their system and listening to concerns raised by the community. This Amico thing however just feels like a scam. Retro games require snappy input so they design awkward touch screen laggy wireless controllers. The games also resemble a late 90's PD collection or maybe unity coding demos. And then there's the 'physical' media that's just a fancy download code which is worthless when the servers go dark, which they will. There is no market for this thing, it's too expensive and too technically weak compared to the hundreds of cheap Chinese emulation boxes and far too obscure to even appeal to many consumers. Who can even remember a single intelivision game? It's not like the Atari 2600 with its many well known games and pop culture references. Get the intelivision flashback for 30 quid if you really must play it, at least that has authentic controllers.

[@Jenovi]

It's really solid and if you have friends thinking about getting one, it's a great system to recommend.

[@kingnacho69]

I really hope those investors find this video and try to get their money back or take legal action

[@Jenovi]

I don't think there's much that can be done and I'm not sure I have a ton of sympathy for them in many regards. If the system launches, they all will receive a little something. It's just not likely they will receive back the total investment.

[@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial]

This is the first I even heard that TJ&E was in talks for the Amiico. A shame this system is such a botch job, would be a great game to see on there

[@sensibleperson1979]

Play TJ&E on Switch, PC, Xbox, or PlayStation. You don’t need Amico for that.

[@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial]

@@sensibleperson1979 way ahead of ya, BiTG was the first game I ever bought off limited run when it first released, great game

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Betting the farm on... an update to one of the best games of 1982, a new project by the always-divisive Doug Tenaple (without Dave Perry involved, afaik), and an "updated port" of a game that's been out for almost two years *right now* that, as you say, is a game in a series that perfectly embodies "niche" is... a bold strategy. But probably not a good one. Especially since the last of those apparently isn't even coming. Big yikes. Great work, as always, dude.

[@Jenovi]

I really cut down the EWJ segment, but yeah, certainly other issues there. Also, I've rarely enjoyed these updated versions of 80's games. So many times, they miss the mark.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

@@Jenovi More often than not, I'm afraid.

[@Aragorn7884]

2013 chipsets in 2022 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@opaque1797]

*2011

[@Aragorn7884]

@@opaque1797 🤔😬

[@midimusicforever]

2022? We'll see about that...

[@Aragorn7884]

@@midimusicforever 🤣🤣🤣

[@OverThinkGaming]

Another great Amico video!!!!

[@Jenovi]

Thank you SIR! 🤠

[@theovonskeletor3709]

it's Tommy's fault it's a failer

[@GameplayandTalk]

The Amico has turned into one hell of a train wreck. I can't imagine it succeeding in the long term, if it even manages to make it out of the door to begin with, heh.

[@PlayStationPaul]

I actually think an Amico variety stream would be quite good on your channel. Those games aren’t worth buying a system for, but if they were ever bundled together on a compilation, might be a laugh to spend a few hours going through.

[@GameplayandTalk]

@@PlayStationPaul I agree.. but that laugh costs money. :(

[@PlayStationPaul]

@@GameplayandTalk Buying the system and all the games individually as digital downloads would cost a fortune, just for the sake of a one off stream, obviously. But if it ever got to the stage where they came out on a multiplatform compilation, I doubt it would be too expensive, and would probably be worth the investment. I’m hoping such a compilation comes out one day. If the system bombs, then it would make sense to recoup some of the loss by releasing the games on other platforms. If they dropped the Amico branding and just marketed it as a sort of re-imagined Intellivision collection, it might do OK.

[@GameplayandTalk]

@@PlayStationPaul Eh.. but then I'd still be giving Tommy money. Not really worth it. 😆

[@PlayStationPaul]

@@GameplayandTalk I expect he'll be long gone by the time it got to that point.

[@Reepicheep-1]

I didn't know what an Intellivision was when I bounced between friends' 2600s & NESs. I CERTAINLY don't care about it now, with my Switch, X1S, 360, Wii, PS2, SNES, phone, PC, etc.

[@Jenovi]

Certainly hard to have something grab attention with so many fantastic options currently available.

[@ez054098]

I lost it when I opened the “special edition” cartridges. What a joke.

[@opaque1797]

you got mad about it , or lost interest in the system at that point ?

[@GareWorks]

Very good, level-headed coverage of this mess. I'm hoping the eventual autopsy of the Intellivision Amico is a bit less bleak than its current state. I wanted to get one from day one even though I never expected it to be more than a fun, short-lived novelty, but this has turned into something that makes even the Atari VCS look good.

[@neozeed8139]

I never heard of the WiiU until it was long dead. However they marketed it, sure didn’t work. That said the intellevision is so fringe, the amount of us that played it back in 80-84 is so tiny and honestly the lack of RAM/ROM held games back just like the coleco and Atari systems. There is a reason Famicom games are still playable today while other late 70s/early 80s systems are not.

[@PotionSwordRun]

Killer apps? Have you not seen Shark Shark. I mean they have Nemo! hahaha Nice episode! I really appreciate your how in-depth you go providing examples to back any criticism you have. When you put them all together in a well produced package it just hits more. Its more difficult to dismiss as someone passionate just spewing nonsense.

[@Jenovi]

😆 Some folks whose names shall not be spoken, get really hung up on things of small to little consequence, then beat those topics to death. It can make a person seem bitter, unreasonable, and detract from the message. In some circles, there's an unhealthy obsession with this system, not seen since the console wars of the 80's-90's. Skipping along, Shark Shark looks incredibly unfun, and Fox n Forest doesn't look much better than the reskinned Finnagin Fox once I put them side by side (As shown in the video). Not sure why the money was spent doing this.

[@PotionSwordRun]

@@Jenovi hmmm sometime to think about. Thank you. The games never interested me one bit. That’s always been the main reason to buy a console. Wii sports was something unique and exciting. What I’ve seen of the Amico they’re comparable to cheap cellphone games, not even the hood ones. Good luck to them.

[@opaque1797]

@@PotionSwordRun do you even fence ride , bro ?

[@dusksheaks1010]

Potion sword run is my homie.

[@joshua.snyder]

Do you even steal your neighbors pets, bro?

[@joshsimpson79]

This is very well spoken and thought out. Not a hater! I’d like to see someone try and disagree with it.

[@Jenovi]

I still have my preorder in, and not because I want to make fun of it. Unfortunately, the reality is something we've got to accept on this. Sugar isn't going to fix these problems.

[@SpeccyHorace]

Wow I didn't realise the extent of the financial side of all this. They are fucked.

[@Jenovi]

... Yeah