Intel Core Ultra 200S Series Processors Performance and Platform Deep Dive | Intel Technology

[@nickchkheidze9189]

Focus on saving energy is great because less cooling is required, and chips can last longer, and less fan noise

[@the12gaugeshotty]

I've never had an Intel CPU die due to age and I've had some for a very long time (10+ years).

[@Abstrahues]

@@the12gaugeshotty CPU's are built to last but Raptor Lake had serious issues with thermal management. This gen addresses that.

[@kartikpintu]

@@Abstrahues only OC chips had problem

[@Abstrahues]

@@kartikpintu and?

[@hung42hb]

😊​@@Abstrahues

[@Oshea73]

Great i just hope you guys can turn around and get 18a in panther lake and get back your market cap

[@buff9267]

one of the reasons I really don't wish upon intel's collapse (besides hating on a company that produces processors is a weird thing to do) is the positive influence intel has had on anything computer related such as WiFi, usbc&thunderbolt, and especially Pci-express.

[@lost4356]

Probably this is way arrow lake didnt create refresh and the mobo only support 1 gen is clear they didnt want relies too much on TSMC

[@Accuaro]

I hope for AMD-like platform longevity, do that and my life is yours Intel.

[@aternias]

honestly pretty solid framework for the future

[@allkindsofthings673]

Thank you Intel for doing something about the CPU heat

[@01ai01]

Happy to see the huge performance per watt improvements! Thanks folks.

[@pidginenglish4489]

A well balanced processor. Good job!

[@GETNAKD]

Still, worse than AMD's X3D line up in gaming and the chipset's life span is short so not worth at all.

[@teethashaquan5395]

@@GETNAKD X3D sucks at multi threading and only good at low resolution gaming that nobody actually cares for lol. You have no idea what you're talking about.

[@HDRPC]

​​@@GETNAKD Are you gaming in 1080p using RTX 4090?

[@venividivici4253]

@@teethashaquan5395 He's an AMD fanboy.

[@runninginthe90s75]

@GETNAKD Let's be real, people who own RTX 4080 and 4090 won't be playing at 720P or 1080P. Amd 3d is just better at some game at low res which nobody cares when they own very powerful GPU. Amd 3d like 7800x3d is really bad at productivity, even slower than an i5-14600k. Meanwhile Arrow Lake is very well balanced CPU, great at productivity and gaming. No need for special BS CPU like Amd.

[@Sean-km7ht]

38:25 I had hope when I saw ECC support, but it immediately disappeared when he said "enterprise users." Now I'm back to expecting it to only be supported on a very limited number of chipsets like they did with the previous W series, and only on the higher tier CPUs. There are plenty of home users who would love ECC support on lower power platforms for home servers that handle thinks like NAS and other lightweight applications. ECC was the biggest reason I went AMD with my TrueNAS, it is cheaper to throw in a budget discrete GPU for my media server than the premium to buy a W680 motherboard, the power draw increase put the price difference with a W680 at over 10 years of use to be worth it. I plan to build a 2nd one next year as an offsite backup, but I'll see how far their ECC support goes before I start picking parts.

[@averagesnailgodpraiser3840]

Ddr5 ecc is different shape then non-ecc so it’ll never work sadly

[@Sean-km7ht]

@averagesnailgodpraiser3840 There aren't many options, but DDR5 Unregistered ECC is available in UDIMM, I use it in my AMD TrueNAS ... Registered ECC is only available as RDIMM, which is different

[@lukas_ls]

@@Sean-km7ht oth ways have pro and cons. On AM5, ECC support is often not implemented properly which leads to possible major issues later on. It's not easy to find boards with proper ECC support and it's pretty much impossible to regular user to differentiate these. Having a dedicated chipset that forces proper ECC implementations protects consumers from being misslead by mainboard manufactures.

7:07 Arrow Lake Foveros Direct3D or Foveros Omni?

[@IntelTechnology]

Intel Arrow Lake processors, such as the Intel Core Ultra 200S series, utilize Foveros Direct 3D. To know more about this, refer to page 3 of the document: intel.ly/4eIojgb Intel Customer Support

[@Demonoid1990]

I'll be interested in how much overclocking can be done on Arrow lake. Assuming at a default baseline this runs significantly cooler than Raptor lake, it sounds like with some tweaking and extra power it could really shine. I remember back on my 3770k it was an overclocking champ. I ran it at around a 1GHz over the stock clock on the daily for years, on an air cooler to boot. For now I'll be holding off for a bit, as I'm waiting for more CUDIMM modules to become available, and CAMM2 motherboards. I haven't quite decided which route I wanna walk yet, so I'll have to wait for them to hit the market for some numbers. Assuming CAMM2 has a reduction in latency at high memory frequency, that could be awesome to tinker with. My next setup I'll finally be going with 4k as well. I think the hardware has gotten to the point of being able to run some of the AAA games at 4k 120/144hz without the need for AI frame generation. The new 5090 coming next year will be quite the beast. Other than that.. I'd really like to see some news on Battlemage. Depending on the prices, they could be useful for some mining. I also wouldn't mind building some budget/midrange systems for family to get them into the PC realm.

[@Wad1991]

After 1 nanometer architecture, what’s next, I’m pretty curious.

[@EvoPortal]

Performance progress will be over...

[@ChrissCorner]

There are 10 angstroms in 1 nanometer, so the process improvements will become MUCH more incremental as things start to become measured in the angstrom unit. Process improvements are going to eventually leap in terms of 1/10 of a single nanometer.

[@NAMOR5000]

So when will the U9 be available or do we have to wait for the 385?

[@IntelTechnology]

Hi! The Core Ultra 9 285K for desktop systems and the 288V for laptops are already available through retailers and system integrators. We suggest you contact your nearest retail outlets and major online shopping websites for the best estimate on their availability. To explore the various models in the Core Ultra processor family, feel free to visit intel.ly/3UygZLY To be the first to know about the latest news, future product launches, and upcoming technological advancements, please stay tuned to our newsroom: intel.ly/3AnT5vP Intel Customer Support

[@venividivici4253]

Newegg had the 285K in stock. It’s out of stock now. I got mines when I got the email from Newegg stating it was back in stock. Good luck.

[@NAMOR5000]

@@venividivici4253 Same here, mine arrived today in the afternoon, am happy about it for sure. Did had to unselect a check mark as egg would had me spend like seventy dollars more for something i was not interested. Congrats, with your build!

[@moderatorgamer3177]

JUST DON’T END UP LIKE 13TH AND 14TH instability Its frustrating

[@the12gaugeshotty]

My 13600K is rock solid stable, runs at 6GHz on a 240mm AIO. Never had any issues with it.

[@moderatorgamer3177]

@@the12gaugeshotty I think it mostly affected are i7 and i9 13TH and 14 TH gen

[@PaulsTechSpace]

@@the12gaugeshottyOnly Raptor Lake high end is effected. You have the mid range 13600K so you’re safe like you said.

[@kartikpintu]

@@moderatorgamer3177 only OC chips

[@raulitrump460]

yeah lets hope amd 3d chips wont burn again.

[@chik0240]

First, you need third party to verify potential voltage or ILM bending issues alike... especially with a 250W PL2 spec, you would like to demo you really get things right this time around

[@Superior85]

Sounds nice, very cool to hear some overclocking guidance in the video. Going from my current DDR4 4000 to DDR5 8000 would be a doubling of memory speed 🤯

[@jlgroovetek]

Real world memory performance however won't really be anywhere near double. Memory bandwidth might get close to double, but realised performance maybe +50% at best.

[@toonnut1]

​@@jlgroovetek doubt even 50% probably 20% at best

[@zlibz4582]

really hope silicon photonics RnD is done so intel incorporates light as a means of switching circuit instead of the traditional electrical transistor

[@marcus5368]

Since when power efficiency and temp became the main focus on next generation CPUs? I get that by turning off turboboost on my 13700k.

[@ion4290]

Intel seems to be at a dead end. At least AMD has x3d cache to provide gaming performance.

[@CR055FIRE]

have you guys put the IOH back on the CPU yet? caman brah

[@asrafulemon2004]

20:35 well balanced performance compared to 7950x3d

[@Mr11ESSE111]

or not , power usage probably 2-3x higher ,gaming performance same to lower and we dont know if stability will be problem here too

[@PaulsTechSpace]

⁠@@Mr11ESSE1112-3X is an exaggeration. Intel claimed that their cpus nearly match the performance of AMD at almost half the power. In a worse case scenario, intel probably consumes 1.4 more power.

[@Mr11ESSE111]

@@PaulsTechSpace 7800x3d uses much less power in gaming while giving higher fps then 14900k and 285k will be like 14900k in gaming performance

[@Hussar-fm8iy]

9800x3d right around the corner.

[@averagesnailgodpraiser3840]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@Mr11ESSE1112-3 is more than 14900ks even compared lol

[@skteclivingtechnology454]

Since 2001, we have been a system integrator. Before launching Intel's Core Ultra Desktop processors in the Indian market, we need to verify the compatibility of NVMe Gen 3 and Gen 4 SSDs with the 800 series chipset. It's essential that a list of tested NVMe SSD manufacturers is made available on your web portal. Recently, users have encountered blue screen errors when using NVMe SSDs during Windows 11 updates, and we want to ensure customers do not face issues with their AI PCs. We trust that Intel will address this concern.

[@Velocifyer]

14:38 none of the things that are labled as PAR seem to be PAR. (But on par apaerently means +/-3%)

[@marissadubois2705]

Yes this is due to the uncertainty in measurement in complex systems

[@lukas_ls]

Given how much difference is between single runs, assuming -/+3% as being equal is fair. You'll often see a variance of 1-3% between benchmark runs. Unless doing like dozens oft tests it's hard to judge the significance oft the results

[@NZRanger]

So my upgrade path will be BATTLEMAGE and then Arrow Lake from 5700X with ARC A750... Happy with the direction Intel are going and want to do my bit to support.

[@Velocifyer]

9:37 offical graph showing 9950X has more performance than 14900k and sometimes better than core ultra 9 285k.

[@PixelatedWolf2077]

and that's fine. That's being honest more than anything. They kinda need to be honest right now. 😅

[@j340_official]

Are the power savings from your new core design or from TSMC? We saw nvidia and Qualcomm both realize much better performance per watt when they switched from Samsung to tsmc. Can it be that the tsmc 3nm process is just hyper power efficient? I guess we’ll know more when you introduce a product on 18A!

[@Core2]

Good job Intel!

[@petrm2234]

power efficiency for enthusiast ? what does it mean?

[@buff9267]

it means you won't be boiled in your room

[@LeCommeiLFaut]

I personally not run for cooooores, I desire fast I/o to bring maximum screen 📺 quality and sync performance to save Ashley in 4K resolution and maybe sometime to watch some intriguing movies 🍿 for the plot ofc 😄 in khm maximum quality🤩

[@videocruzer]

Scale that energy saves over their projected sales of 100 million chips, that is a huge reduction on the power grid. Something tells me that is a huge number.

[@rulik007]

Nice presentation

[@jordan3802]

You mean turning off hyper threading and lowering clocks results in reduced power draw AND reduced gaming pref? WOW! TELL ME MORE! (Worst result vs Raptor -21% Best result vs Raptor +15%)

[@PixelatedWolf2077]

Bro, why are you negative? Also, hyper threading is great, but in games like Helldivers 2, it'll make the processor run toastier than without SMT.

[@jordan3802]

@@PixelatedWolf2077 I can turn off hyperthreading on my 13900k if I want to.

[@diegosparta9799]

where i can download the pdf ?

[@IntelTechnology]

You can download the product brief PDF file of Intel Core Ultra 200S series processor at intel.ly/3YkwJ7K For more information on the Intel Core Ultra 200S desktop processors, please visit intel.ly/3Nl5oMb For more inquiries feel free to send us a private message on our Facebook pages or DM us at Instagram/X handles. We'd be happy to assist. Intel Customer Support

[@qweasdzxc]

@@IntelTechnology The linked PDF is for mobile processor (Lunar Lake), not Arrow Lake.

[@RAVAG3DH3AD]

i hope you can fix the gaming performance, so far its not even close to the 14900k in most cases.

[@faultyservice]

Objectively this can be considered the worst Intel launch release since the Pentium 4 Easy Bake Oven.🔥Pat should've canned it like he does everyone else.

[@Velocifyer]

Only 1k views in 5 hours, time to watch the video

[@ericferrell3775]

really appreciate the detailed breakdown in this video, it's super informative! but honestly, i feel like the hype around the Intel Core Ultra 200S is a bit exaggerated. sure, the performance is impressive, but isn't it time to acknowledge the fierce competition from AMD? just my two cents!

[@nossy232323]

Why did you only use 5200MHz memory on the 7950X3D system?

[@heickelrrx]

because AMD officially only support that speed for 7950X3D Intel also only officially support 6400 Mhz for these Arrowlake chip beyond that is overclocking

[@lukas_ls]

Because AMD will void warranty if you use anything above that.

[@nossy232323]

@@lukas_ls That's simply not true. There has not been 1 case like that. In fact AMD even said that DDR 6000 = optimal.

[@lukas_ls]

@@nossy232323 that is true. Just look it up

[@lukas_ls]

@@nossy232323 that’s just a fact. Look it up

[@viisal180]

why you guys do not focus on increas GPU for gaming, for last few years we just got max 2GHz?

[@toonnut1]

I'll definitely be staying on my 13900kf im happy with 43k cinebench r23

[@leojansen1130]

They compare the rendering with AMD CPU and not with their Gen 14. And then with 8k rendering.I think most people still render in 4k or 2k.

[@vladmihai306]

Funny that intel switched to tsmc process for arrow lake and all of a sudden power consumption is halved :)) what a coincidence. this does not bode well for intel process

[@jordan3802]

Zen 5% vs Arrow Lake -2.85%. What a time to be alive lol

[@computerscience1101]

But it does have 10-15% improvement in productivity

[@MarianPV20]

@@computerscience1101 you can get easily improvements in productivity but its harder to get more improvements on gaming.

[@PixelatedWolf2077]

You saw that but you never considered how good the e cores are. The e cores will help with more basic stuff such as website surfing and listening to lesser music.

[@qweasdzxc]

@@PixelatedWolf2077 lol audio playback isnt demanding at all

[@PixelatedWolf2077]

@@qweasdzxc Not until you start doing higher quality audio codecs that aren't measly MP3 or AAC files.

[@maulcun]

A good all around CPU with good performance per watt.

[@JayzBeerz]

Can you send me a test kit? You always send to people who are youtubers who can easily afford them.

[@teej_youtube]

I've been loyal to intel forever and now more then ever wanting to jump ship to Ryzen, sad... I can't even buy a 285k no one has any... The micro center in denver only got 245ks and 265ks... you know what they do have in stock though 9950x's... SMH

[@venividivici4253]

Everyone wanted that chip so of course it will go out of stock. Imma get mines on NewEgg.

[@venividivici4253]

I got my hands on a 285K.

[@Matrix1Gamer]

Intel Core Ultra seem to be designed for productivity first and gaming second.

[@cazito64]

Been using intel cpu's since 1991. Never had a single glitch.

[@impuls60]

Have you seen the 20 bios updates on both Amd and Intel motherboard sites?!

[@ion4290]

@@impuls60 If this guy uses i5 then he won't have problems even in 13th 14th generation

[@Accuaro]

Intel needs platform longevity, do that and my life is yours.

[@robertcras8151]

Is this now the 14900 but instability fixed, using less watt and a small performance drop? If Intel says it is only a few fps drop, i’ll wait for some real indepedent testing. It’s like a car manufacturer telling me i can do 700km on a tank, which means going downhill, wind in the back, and the still not making 600km…..

[@kahvac]

Intel....Looking Good !

[@rajagopal5570]

Good job intel 💥💥💥💥 u are back

[@ZA26]

Is there a Intel graphics control app under Linux like there is on Windows?

[@arpithraj8149]

All Linux based system provide their own driver to the systems. It's better you ask to Linux support though the Intel arc pannel will work with Linux

[@runninginthe90s75]

I really like Intel CPU. Great performance at gaming but also on productivity. Arrow Lake indeed very balanced processor unlike Amd which is good at productivity but worst at gaming or the opposite.

[@ryanspencer6778]

This is exactly why I'm interested in going back to Intel. My Ryzen 9 3900x was basically the 285k of it's day. It wasn't the best at gaming, but it was good enough and it had amazing productivity performance. This seems to be a similar story, plus it has a lot of features that the 9950x or 9950X3D won't have, like the encoding support in the iGPU and the NPU. I can already think of ways that I can integrate both into my normal workflow.

[@rnf123]

This is a ridiculous thing to say. The Ryzen 7800X3D is the best gaming CPU.

[@MrWuzey]

@@rnf123 You didn't understand what he said at all. "unlike Amd which is GOOD at productivity but worst at gaming or the OPPOSITE." The Ryzen 7800X3D is a perfect example of what he said, good at gaming but fall down in the productivity while the non 3D version is better at productivity but fall down in gaming so you have to pick a side and accept compromise which is not necessarily an inconvenient but yeah the intel line up is more balanced when productivity and gaming are both important for you which was the point of the post.

[@ilanbar1970]

bravo 👏 Intel

[@MrEviljackal]

😎👍

[@mrfarts5176]

Trash company

[@onepasseffects]

We need something better for rendering

[@adinnugroho6544]

This might gonna be my next CPU, for future Desktop Machine 😅

[@马家厨房]

Ultra 200s have not been sold !

[@merkekeruysat]

Was he talking. At that time worked in amd. Now he's in intel?🤔

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

this new av1 generates too much heat compared to previous x264 smth either intel or snapdragon want to address abt

[@Decki777]

3d Cache and low latency memory are most efficient way to get gaming performance AMD has 3d cache but no low memory latency and bandwidth. 3d cache Intel CPU will be amazing for gaming right now I'm using the 13700kf so I have no reason to upgrade to i9 arrow lake.

[@n.d.n.e1805]

Fun fact intel's first CPU to use the A18 node is set to release in H1 of 2025 and will have 3d cash. Intel's 3D cache technology will stack cache memory on top of the CPU die, which differs from AMD's 3D V-Cache technology. Stacking it on top of the memory makes it faster

[@AdiiS]

@@n.d.n.e1805 source?

[@eladioperez4438]

Intel offers us the z890 along with the 285K to make a jump of -3% compared to the currently castrated and degraded 14900k, curiously I feel somewhat better because I know that there are those who are in worse situations than me 🚬

[@Skater6453]

less power and 20 percent reduction in some games performance. Woo hoo nice next gen yeah! 🙄 9800x3d it is for an actual upgrade then.

[@CakeCh.]

IMO Data Streaming Accelerator would be a nice addition in next generation.

[@interceptor001]

A single generation socket really leaves a bad taste…..

[@khensationalReviews]

If you can afford to upgrade every gen you can afford a new motherboard every gen as well lol.

[@raulitrump460]

when you can spend 400eur or usd on cpu then you can spend 120eur or usd on motherboard.

[@n.d.n.e1805]

What? The mobo is also going so support the A18 node or intel ultra core 300

[@nempk1817]

@@khensationalReviews "PLEASE RIP ME OFF" ahh excuse.

[@n.d.n.e1805]

@@beilence It coming from the fact that arrow lake is most likely going to get a refresh with 3d cache and we know for a while that the mobo was going to support the a18 node once we get the arrow lake refresh

[@wololo10]

Bring back monolithic

[@JynxedKoma]

"Elite Gaming Experience" what a joke that is.

[@n.d.n.e1805]

It has a solid base with its 14th generation performance, and you can actually utilize its capabilities since it doesn't have stability issues. Also, this CPU is more suited for professional workloads-it’s designed for tasks like software development, Photoshop, or other productivity-related activities rather than gaming. The Intel 285k outperforms any other CPU in workload

[@JynxedKoma]

@@n.d.n.e1805 " The Intel 285k outperforms any other CPU in workload"...Yeah, OK (Sarcasm).

[@n.d.n.e1805]

@@JynxedKomaIt does. And If you want to talk about Threadripper, let's talk about Intel's new Xeon 6900P.

[@nossy232323]

@@n.d.n.e1805 You don't know that it won't have stability problems, and they used 6400MHz DDR for the Intel system and only 5200MHz DDR for the 7950X3D.

[@n.d.n.e1805]

@@nossy232323 I do know.

[@steven658]

I hope Snapdragon make CPU for desktop soon as possible

[@molikoli9802]

Why would you want that. Half of the applications and especially games will not run or run terribly.

[@buff9267]

​@@molikoli9802competition is good for anything

[@SamirChakravarty]

Probably not going to happen anytime soon especially because their processors are ARM based. The main selling point for ARM is extreme efficiency, but X86 has been able to keep up this year at least in the notebook sector and when you factor in compatibility issues with a lot of different applications on an ARM platform, there simply isn't enough possible market to make the investment on Qualcomm's side worth it to get into the desktop space. As more developers make/modify applications to be ARM compatible maybe but I don't see a Snapdragon desktop variant anytime within the next 5 year minimum. Always great to be hopeful! It would be nice to bring more competitors again Intel and AMD!

[@aquilarossa5191]

Pitching them as having 24 cores when only 8 of them are high performance ones is kind of dodgy I think. I remember AMD getting sued and losing for saying they had multi core CPUs, but they in fact shared cache. A little misleading perhaps, is what intel do is even more misleading, e.g., the title says 24 cores, but the small print says 8/16. I would not consider going back to Intel unless we can be certain the issue of the CPU internals degrading due to voltage is proven to be fixed. Time will tell. P.S. My last Intel CPU was a Sandy Bridge i5 2500K. A really great CPU, but not much of an upgrade path. I switched to Ryzen. I was able to use a 2700x, a 3700x, and now a 5900x all on the same mobo and memory. No having to buy a whole new platform, but I got two performance gains by just upgrading CPU. I really appreciated that. I am looking at upgrading the 5900x now. I am not sure if I should get a B550 mobo to get PCI-E 4.0 and get another year from my CPU, or go to a new platform with DDR5 support etc. What I do know is I'll be waiting for news on whether Arrow Lake self destructs like the 14th gen did. I am also wondering if AMD will have similar hassles, because I suspect getting down below 3nm might be part of it. We''ll see. Maybe getting another year out my my CPU is the way to go. BYW. No, Intel is not my enemy. Nvidia is - lolz. :P

[@PixelatedWolf2077]

If it makes you feel better then AMD also does this, especially on their mobile CPUs like STRIX Point. They both do this. It helps to have E cores to hand off menial stuff like web browsing and word processing to that way the P cores can be idle and ready to jump in....like if you're going to play a game for example. If you load up music while playing a game, the music will be played on the slower but still decent E cores while the game runs on the faster P cores.

[@Aditya-sj4ev]

The E cores are not a joke. They are as performant as Redwood Cove P cores in IPC.

[@mikinyaa]

Core Ultra 9 285K ❌ Core Ultra 7 265K ❌ Core Ultra 7 265KF ❌ Core Ultra 5 245K ❌ Core Ultra 5 245KF ❌ Core i9 15800K ⭕ Core i7 15600K ⭕ Core i7 15600KF ⭕ Core i5 15400K ⭕ Core i5 15400KF ⭕

[@AdiiS]

Thinking of upgrading from 10900K to 285K, should be a noticable upgrade I guess.

[@LeicaM11]

I am pretty sure, Intel and AMD will be offering single core performance of more than 3700 on Geekbench 6, to compete with Apple finally. In 2027 maybe 😂… when Apple will be at 5100…

[@cuongtang9539]

i want that 265K

[@subhadeeppodder]

Great❤❤

[@panjak323]

Who's going to ray trace on CPU? It's infinitely slower and much less efficient

[@MrChewy97]

Band of Baldies 😄

[@godnamedtay]

285k is THE best cpu of this generation by far. With the news of zen 5 and the leaks of the laughably bad 9800x3d. I’ll take arrow lake ALL DAY.

[@PeterMarszalkowski]

You absolutely have to use benchmarks for gamesx. And graphics cards couple and fire as CPU push higher lvl pip lune and desktop main or PC main gives core voltafw tuner free manual each core voltage optimization memory list tuning aopo makes a Windows Server secure say game game doket desktop doket CPU head balance application terminal swuth server desktop RAM a low core should switch the hot core alternately with load tuning you could go to who knows how high it goes and I can use data center cloud core and use timing profile save and the bandwidth is adjusted according to the application through LAN tuning general balancing auto aos safe hardware connection worth making visible for everyone you switch windows from the console completely usable makes left community advertising partner I don't care otherwise get benchmarks from extreme overclockers you can run them as a server PC emulated adios

[@Ramuh101]

RIP intel

[@khensationalReviews]

Perfect time to sell my 7800x3D. Gonna get Ultra Core 9 285K or 265K and 2 Dimm board

[@mannyc19]

Makes No sense to do so.

[@mifunebrevar]

Crazy

[@n.d.n.e1805]

@@mannyc19 If he is using it for tasks like video editing, software development, Photoshop, or any other workload-related activities, the Intel 285k outperforms any other CPU.

[@Tanmay0607]

​​@@n.d.n.e1805we don't have third party reviews for 9950x vs 285k yet

[@thetheoryguy5544]

@@n.d.n.e1805 Agree

[@CARLOSRUIZ-pe3mo]

intel Ultragarbage!!

[@ItsAkile]

Pat was right, God is needed here

[@benyomovod6904]

Error Lake is here, waiting for the bug report

[@Velocifyer]

Why are you so verbose?

[@tbreeze79]

🚮🚮🚮🚮

[@timothyhernandez3985]

New processor? What next crash and full 100% temperature

[@R6ex]

X3D > ARL

[@verde5738]

Wow, this is somehow even more disappointing than AMD's Zen 5 xD

[@PixelatedWolf2077]

How?

[@verde5738]

I don't know, ask Intel.

[@PixelatedWolf2077]

@@verde5738 Then it isn't disappointing if you can't give a reason

[@verde5738]

Oh, ok.

[@Mr11ESSE111]

seems like AMD and Intel have some secret agrement so Arrow Lake and zen5 are basically fails and hairless better then previous gens as zen4 or raptor lake

[@SmexiRedditorz]

In business world it's not good to make enemy with competitor within the same market. These corporation only enemy is consumer.

[@Mr11ESSE111]

@@SmexiRedditorz mooonsterssss

[@n.d.n.e1805]

Both Arrow Lake and AMD Zen 5 CPUs were produced by TSMC. The good news is that the Intel A18 node will be manufactured by Intel, unlike the A20 node, which is produced by TSMC. Intel dropped the A20 node to have more time and resources to work on its A18 node. Intel's first CPU to use the A18 node is set to be released in H1 of 2025 and will have 3d cash. Intel's 3D cache technology will stack cache memory on top of the CPU die, which differs from AMD's 3D V-Cache technology. Stacking it on top of the memory makes it faster

[@Mr11ESSE111]

@@n.d.n.e1805 so if intel would produce it then we should be worry for some kind of instability again

[@n.d.n.e1805]

​@@Mr11ESSE111 No, we shouldn't. The primary reason the A20 node consumes significantly less power is that it utilizes many of Intel's new technologies. As far as we know, the A18 node will consume as much power as the A20 node. So hence no instability issues; the oxidation problem was a manufacturing defect that has since been fixed entirely.

[@Mr11ESSE111]

so basically again slower then 7800x3d even with 285k or as its now with 14900k and 9800x3d will be maybe 2-5% better then 7800x3d if AMD clocked it 300+mhz more and add more cache

[@syedshaqutub613]

I don’t think so, IPC is much better with lower cores plus lower energy consumption. How is it slower?

[@khensationalReviews]

What are you talking about? The 285K will smoke 7800x3D. My 7800x3D which is a good bin does 18,600k cb23. The 285k has double the multicore. For games the 7800x3D has higher avg fps but loses in 1% lows. Mind you this benchmark is stock. Intel rigs are supposed to be tuned. Expect at least +15% gaming performance when its tuned.

[@kartikpintu]

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[@Mr11ESSE111]

@@syedshaqutub613 in game will be slower!! even Intel sayed that and that 285k are around 14900k in gaming and 14900k are slower then 7800x3d

[@buff9267]

​@@kartikpintuthat's hilarious