RUIN Freddy’s Head Revealed: FNAF’s BIGGEST Mystery Solved, Lore Analysis

[@Perdix64]

I think that the Ruined Freddy isn’t attacking us, it senses a child similar to Gregory, and in it’s jumpscare, it tries to push her inside of him, presumably wishing to protect her.

[@paulthefreak9680]

under rated commment

[@Astr000]

That’s a good theory

[@Perdix64]

@@Astr000 it is still hostile since it doesn’t have 100% of his mind, but it does still have a protective side.

[@Astr000]

@@Perdix64 right

[@Perdix64]

@CloudyNoodless I agree, but still, I don’t think it’s a roar, I think it’s more of Freddy sensing her and opening his chest cavity for her.

[@richardkirkland6805]

The thing is, we see *exactly* why freddy crashed, and it has nothing to do with him being a prototype or bugging out. The virus tried to call on resources that Freddy didn't have, all of his processing power was going into his performance and necessary subroutines, so when the Glitchtrap Virus activated and tried to take over Freddy, Freddy's CPU tried to allocate resources to the virus, and that plus Freddy performing and everything that was was happening overloaded Fressy, causing him to crash. It's like when your computer crashes because you have too many applications open at once. When Freddy rebooted, he was in Safe Mode, and couldn't access any of the corrupted portions of his files as he was running off of just the absolute necessities.

[@zeldaenby224]

Perhaps you could say..... The *bear* necessities? Alright, I'll leave

[@MesMesTes]

@@zeldaenby224Never return

[@sticksthegamer726]

Then after he lost his head the virus was able to get into freddy since freddy won't be able to defend it off now cause he is not using the body anymore

[@ChaoticJester]

F r e s s y

[@richardkirkland6805]

@@ChaoticJester I found that typo when I reread my own comment.

[@mandag7349]

I feel like they're trying to replace the OG Animatronics because there are too many negative events attached to Bonnie (replaced by Monty) and now Freddy (with the Hippo). Although... how could it be a Freddy's establishment if there's no Freddy!?!

[@noahwingert9766]

I’ve wanted new main animatronic for a long time. That’s why I hate the fact that everyone dosent like Monty because of him possibly destroying bonnie. I’m fine with Freddy staying but I would like to see new animatronic based off of new animals.

[@princessrhys5960]

They probably would have rebranded the name from “Fazbear Entertainment” to something like “Faz Inc.” or something.

[@luquivarde7266]

@@noahwingert9766i have fun with Monty because it’s kind of a punching bag this last two games

[@valeriavondoom-1]

It's not the same case with Glamrock Bunny Bunny got destroyed by Monty And Monty took his place This Glamrock Body of Freddy is a prototype for the head (which is the real Glamrock Freddy)

[@connorstamps1298]

⁠@@valeriavondoom-1I wouldn’t say destroyed, more or less implied

[@ryanrybicki2036]

Now, with this in mind, it would make sense why the animatronics ignore Freddy when Gregory is in him in the main game. If we can’t see Freddy AT ALL with the Vanny mask, and every animatronic is running off the same AI system, then it tells us why the other glam rocks can’t detect us in Freddy when we enter him. Confirming that this broken Freddy is the same one we play as in the main game with Gregory. Freddy being a prototype wouldn’t show up in the system. Either that, or Vanny herself can’t see Freddy with the mask on and Freddy is known to not see vanny as well. The only point where this wouldnt make sense is when vanny calls the bots to disassemble Freddy, and Freddy seems to acknowledge the existence of vanny despite his inability to see her in the beginning of the game (this is where the whole mask invisible aspect of things doesn’t quite work out, but possibly the devs didn’t think too deep on that). besides that, Freddy is different in the case that he is the only one completely invisible with the mask on so it can be assumed that this prototype is the same Freddy. Second connection: there are clear similarities between the rebooting and safe mode events between glam rock Freddy in the beginning of security breach and eclipse in ruin. With Freddy being in safe mode, and a prototype, it explains the difficulties of the AI systems trying to control him and make him evil like the other animatronics. With eclipse being in safe mode, he tends to Cassie as a child, unlike his actions beforehand. Safe Mode acts like a way for a software or system to use minimal tools that are not affected by the virus or AI to carry out priority protocols, such as keeping children safe.

[@vb1125]

But why do animatronics see Freddy on stage in the opening scene and not in the game

[@johngtag]

But when Roxy is crying she says Freddy get out of my room

[@ryanrybicki2036]

@@johngtag yeah there is that moment. I was thinking of the times that Gregory enters Freddy for safety and it felt off that say any of the animatronics wouldn’t say anything to Freddy even when up close to the event. They almost just walk around him. I would think the devs would add something like where the animatronics could just take Gregory out of Freddy’s suit and jumpscare him if they saw Gregory hiding like what they do to any other hiding spot Gregory enters. Maybe there is a conflict between what the glam rocks personalities are and the AI that supposedly connects everything.

[@ryanrybicki2036]

@@vb1125 part of Freddy’s programming was working properly before the Safe Mode was activated. It might be that just Vanny can’t see Freddy due to the mask and him being a prototype not added to the AR system.

[@Jonrocks7]

But the animatronics DO see freddy, they just dont really care since other than the daycare attendant and vanny, they dont think they are traveling together and likely assume freddy is searching with them.

[@imnotfujiwara]

I have a theory on Freddy's head. On top of the obvious hints of Princess Quest mainly being the canon ending, Gregory (in the mimic chase scene I think) says he has a friend with access to the building's schematics. I think it's safe to assume that his friend is Freddy, Him knowing the layout below ground also makes sense. Freddy says that he's been to the Pizza Sim location before. who knows, he could've went deeper. But that begs the question, has he been down the elevator at the end? Plus, the fact that the elevator fell and Roxy was able to say Cassy's name at the end of the credits, there's another layer beneath the Pizza Plex. So another DLC is probably possible. Oki rant over.

[@biosupdate7449]

or the friend is vanny, who has also been there probably, and most likely has access to schematics because of her position

[@sffsesfs1955]

in Spanish subtitles it says “mi amiga” (my female friend) so it could be Vanessa

[@AaronDzulEspindola]

Well there was 1 detail missed is that Freddy’s hat is found when we find him (not sure if it’s still there cuz it was found in the trailer his hat on the ground

[@LukiKruki]

@@sffsesfs1955 To solidified it you should check any other language too if they are making the friend a female. If all of them expect English register the friend as a female then clearly it's Vanessa. This is how Overwatch 2 players got spoilers from gendered languages, mainly Polish language, that one teased character is a female.

[@ninjago0o9]

gregory's backpack in down at the sinkhole.

[@GameOver-13]

Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the canon ending is a jumble of all the endings, like Gregory escapes, gets brought back by vanny, later freddy is damaged while saving Vanessa (potential using a prototype body) before both Vanessa and Gregory go a deal with the mimic by trapping it in the side room

[@mistypuffs]

The more vague they leave the ending, the more possibilities for Security Breach 2

[@belynda1224]

@@mistypuffs Imagine they made three more DLCs so it can truly be Five Nights 😂

[@mistypuffs]

@@belynda1224 the more content the make for this game the better. It would be great for them to go back to 5 nights tho ^^

[@yoshineitor]

The mimic was previously trapped, way before the events of Gregory. It p r o b a b l y was trapped by Vanny/Vanessa as the program (the glitched bunny preventing Cassie from breacing security nodes) is the one trying to prevent the Mimic escape.

[@agusmol1202]

​@@belynda1224god yes

[@Takejiro24]

This makes sense. It wouldn't make sense for "Prototype" Freddy and "Base Game" Freddy to be different yet have the exaxt same injuries in the same areas considering the circumstances/context in which the injuries occured. Like....who (in-universe) would go out their way to replicate these injuries?

[@QuestionDeca]

The Mimic, The Mimic would go out of it's way, as it did with all the painted arrows, the convenient setups of the debris, manipulating Cassie and the AR network.

[@finleydoyle4913]

ruin freddy and base game freddy don't have the exact same injuries. in the ending where we end vanny, freddy is missing his lower jaw and left ear, in the good ending, freddy has his lower jaw and left ear.

[@tirramasu7948]

What Base Game freddy is a prototype, and the paint came off revealing he is a prototype And that fazbear ent was just too cheap and thought Prototype freddy was good enough. Pure crack speculation

[@humanoidrkangel]

@@tirramasu7948 you never see prototype on his feet. During the base game he is slowing breaking down and getting more and more run down. Plus the prototype body still has a present inside it. Where as in the base game Gregory was given the present from Freddy there and used the space to hide from Vanny and others. A few popular theories is that this protype is just a red herring as the pizza plex in the vanny ending was not destroyed.

[@tirramasu7948]

@@humanoidrkangel so the question is if the prototype is indeed not Freddy who placed it there?

[@rainbownote6881]

I saw a comment on a Tumblr post that mentioned an interesting detail from earlier in the DLC. In one of the sections close to the middle or end of the game, there's a kicked down door that is trampled with footprints that coincidentally look like Freddy's or Monty's. But the reason why I think they're still Freddy's footsteps is because there are smaller footsteps next to the door in the dirt that possibly belong to Gregory. This makes me think that Freddy and Gregory escaped from the Burntrap boss fight with Freddy's body still intact, and the door could mean that Freddy simply had to kick down a door in their quick escape. The whole Prototype Freddy debate is one of the most difficult moments in Ruin to piece together for sure, but at least there's two sides to it, and people can believe whichever they prefer until proven wrong or right. There's just too much supporting evidence on both sides to make an official decision as a fanbase for now.

[@JenoKondou]

When you go down to where the mimic is at and pass into the section of the burntrap bossfight (the section where Cassie mentions the burners) that would be destroyed af if the burntrap ending was the canon ending,it’s actually untouched and looks just fine there in proving that that ending isn’t the canon one so ye also no burntrap either.

[@Red_MOON187]

I remember the debates for Moondrop/Sundrop names vs Moon/Sun. Now we know, it's Sun and Moon (and eclipse).

[@Chocolate_Milk_Is_Good]

Fun fact: While watching the ruin trailer, the word prototype isnt on his foot, meaning it was added last minute

[@squidking2679]

I think its less of a last minute ending and more of an attempt to hide it before the full release

[@Ramalangadingdang]

Or it was changed for the main trailer as it's a spoiler

[@Chocolate_Milk_Is_Good]

@@squidking2679 ooohh that too :)

[@Chocolate_Milk_Is_Good]

@@Ramalangadingdang True, that too

[@riglivestreams]

or they purposely removed it to make people think it was :/ like you

[@Vault-TecRegionalOffice-zn2tm]

Or we could ask the question... are we all wrong? What if none of the six SB endings lead to Ruin? What if they're all wrong, or parts of each ending make a "true ending" that leads up to Ruin? Maybe Greogiry and Freddy face off against Afton in the Pizzaplace, and then run into Vanny in Fazer-Blast(maybe as a detour to get into or out of some utility tunnels), and Freddy's body gets torn up, but Gregory gets his head and Afton's brainwashing wears off. Then Gregory, Freddy's head, and Vanessa escape together, and begin discovering the truth about Fazbear Entertainment's past; all the things that were locked away or lost to time, and they "can't risk being followed" because something or someone is trying to stop them. Remember, Lefty(aka Marionette) still isn't accounted for. And I wonder; has anyone gotten the full story out of Candy Cadet? It might hold clues about the mimic and what might happen next, or the true ending of Ruin.

[@homerman76]

I'm thinking it's a mix of the Burntrap ending and the Princess Ending as well. The Burntrap ending shows the moment when the Pizzaplex fell into the sinkhole (whether it be because of the earthquake the articles mention or because of the Blob,) and from there there's no reason that things couldn't have led to Gregory also saving Vanessa either on the way out or as a quick return trip after realizing the truth.

[@mxmo.outdanced]

What i think is that gregory and freddy escapes with freddys full body with vanessa escaping vanny.

[@higueraft571]

@@homerman76 The primarily problem i have with Burntrap is: Where's the fire damage?

[@DracuNightmare]

Burntrap is what the Mimic would have become if Vanessa was still Vanny. Dawko does a good job explaining this.

[@higueraft571]

@@DracuNightmare Honestly, i've never bought that, like how does 1-3 hours tops result in a *completely* different endo, a bunch of flesh growing on it, and also a full spring bonnie suit, alongside *also* having time to get in the pod or charge. It stands to reason that "If both timelines are exactly the same up til 6 AM, those prior events are the same for both" :V The only way it'd work is if Burntrap *already* existed, and Mimic just replaced whatever was in it, which still contradicts that...

[@twinodoom]

One thing that's strange to me is that Prototype Freddy doesn't exist in AR mode and seems to be unable to do anytime while Cassie is wearing the Vanni Mask. Unlike other Animatronics, which can at still be seen in AR, Prototype Freddy seems to not exist. As far as I'm aware, you can't even be killed by him while wearing the mask. Which seems to suggest that it's not real, or at the very least that Freddy never got up and started chasing Cassie.

[@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen]

Or the opposite is true, with Glamrock Freddy being confined to the real world without a representation in AR because he never got infected with the virus that caused the events of Security Breach. AR mode lets you literally pass through solid objects and completely removes the ability of endos to detect you, so it stands to reason that it's more than just a mask you put on to see everything in purple. While it's getting deep into Star Trek levels of BS sci-fi, it's still the rules of the universe now.

[@twinodoom]

@@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen The mask doesn't protect you if against most Animatronics, and it's ability to do so is by accessing the Vanni network. It only makes Cassie invisible to the Glamrock Endos, which she can still see and bump into in the AR world. Most other animatronics will still kill you if they get close enough to you while wearing the mask or if Malhare sends them your location, and it's because they have different behaviors from the Glamrock Endos. Freddy doesn't *exist* in AR world, which is a trait only shared with things in the "real" world that appear to be illusions that can't be seen in the AR world, and inverted from Malhare only being visible in AR. Even if Prototype Freddy weren't connected to the network, he would physically exist and be visible and intractable in some capacity. But there's specifically an encounter where the player is meant to use the mask to escape being cornered by him after disabling the jammer preventing you from using the mask. If Prototype Freddy were real, he'd still be able to attack Cassie while she's wearing the mask and the mask would still see him in some capacity. Freddy wasn't invisible to Vanny when she had the mask, and nothing has occurred that should've changed that. Prototype Freddy being an illusion would also explain how it seems to be able to see. It seems to follow her around corners, implying that it can somehow see it's surroundings. Roxy smashes through walls because she can't see and navigates by following sounds.

[@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen]

@@twinodoom Endos have the ability to follow around corners and track the player regardless of where they are. Even if they've been avoided using the mask, they pick right back up on the player immediately after it's taken off. It's far more likely that it's just a security feature that's disabled for the normal animatronics who's computation is performed within their heads but is active when it's just down to their endoskeleton. The reason endos don't react to Cassie yet can still be interacted with is because they're in the network yet lack the necessary AI that creates sentience for full animatronics. Freddy can't be seen in AR because he lacks both his normal and endo heads, completely masking his presence in AR but also disabling his ability to act outside of the real world. Vanny is able to seemingly phase in and out of reality at will, so it's not unrealistic to believe she simply wasn't using AR mode when facing Gregory and Freddy. The mask's creator knowing how it functions better than a random kid and some robot in a dungeon isn't exactly what I'd call far-fetched. AR representations also lack the damage and decay of their real world counterparts, meaning that they're not entirely congruent and were put into the network before they were destroyed. Same with the areas of the Pizzaplex that are magically restored by putting the mask on. The simple fact of the matter is, it doesn't make sense for reality to have illusions in it the same way AR does, plus the sci-fi implications point more towards it allowing a user to explore cyberspace than it just being a vision filter. Being able to cross open gaps in catwalks and similar activities wouldn't be possible if everything was just an illusionary magic trick.

[@twinodoom]

@@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen There's also no explanation for how Prototype Freddy can see without his eyes. Roxy went blind when she lost her eyes. There isn't a given reason why Prototype Freddy would be better at navigating the pizzaplex, especially when he doesn't seem to have been using it until Cassie appeared. What would an animatronic have needed the ability to navigate without vision for when giving it eyes was already part of the design? The Glamrock Endos still use their eyes to see and exhibit behaviors indicating something is controlling them. They only remain still Cassie when they see the Vanni mask instead of her human face or when they can see Cassie looking at them. They're actually unique in that they are the only animatronics that can be seen performing different behaviors based on whether or not she is wearing the mask. They still visually exist in AR and can physically block you from walking through them, but only attempt to attack Cassie if she isn't looking at them with the mask off. Prototype Freddy being disconnected from the network wouldn't explain why he doesn't exist in the AR world. Being in safe mode didn't make Glamrock Freddy invisible to Moon. Glamrock Bonnie doesn't become invisible while wearing the Vanni mask, despite lacking the grid appearance that the active animatronics have and his eyes glowing until you deactivate the bots in the room. Roxy was visible after after being shut down by Cassie, while her green holographic animatronic parts vanishing while she powered down to leave only her endoskeleton. And being invisible in AR wouldn't explain why something cannot be physically interacted with. You wouldn't be able to walk through Prototype Freddy in AR because invisibility doesn't make him untouchable. He'd still exist there in the real world, which Cassie's body is still wandering. We can see that many of the walls that don't exist in AR have a glitchy appearance when looking at them without the mask, indicating that the real world is being affected by some kind of visual illusions that don't exist in AR world. At one point, Helpi comments that Cassie "must be seeing things" when she asks about damage she saw to the pizzaplex in AR that that doesn't exists when she isn't wearing the mask. It doesn't make sense for the mask to suddenly give Cassie the ability to walk through seemingly random objects, or for Prototype Freddy to be the only instance in which one of them in an animatronic. It makes far more sense that Cassie is moving through visual illusions that don't exist in the AR world. Vanny seemingly teleporting is probably because she had the Vanni mask and could bypass those same illusions, which were probably created to allow her to move around undetected. Also, Yellow Eye Helpi has control of the mask. Yellow Eye Helpi states at one point that he was preventing Cassie from removing the mask on her own while traveling through an area, which means that Yellow Eye Helpi not only has control of the mask, but appears to have greater control of it than Malhare, the AI entity that exists inside MXES. Malhare couldn't stop Cassie from removing the mask, only activate jamming devices that could disable the mask, and force the mask to give away it's location to the animatronics. The Mimic replies to Yellow Eye Helpi claiming to have made an area safe from Malhare, indicating that the two are either colluding or Yellow Eye Helpi is a puppet controlled by the Mimic. If Yellow Eye Helpi wasn't the Mimic itself, it was either working in collaboration with or outright controlled by the Mimic to assist Cassie into shutting down MXES. Either way, Yellow Eye Helpi demonstrates a level of control over the Vanni Mask's that would suggest that suggests someone with expertise on how the mask works was involved in manipulating Cassie into freeing the Mimic and is deliberately attempting to manipulate what she's allowed to see while navigating in the Pizzaplex.

[@brobs0463]

Scott and Steelwool have always put in little contrasting details on purpose to spark debate. Really Prototype Freddy could be our Freddy or a different Freddy. Both are true until the community decides and it’s clarified later on

[@spuddragon3597]

Ah, Schrödinger's Freddy

[@Smirving]

​@@spuddragon3597Tbh in fnaf nothing is confirmed everything is a theory

[@thelyric2751]

fnaf is a choose your own adventure game series

[@Zunikara]

Ruin has nothing to do with clearification. They gave us some answers like where is Bonnie or How Vanni was so Quick all the time but other then that they didnt clear up anything they gave us even more questions that cant be answered unless they give us a Part 2 of the DLC

[@gyaramoxie6807]

my theory is that freddy also had a upgrade like the others Monty being the claws Roxy being her eyes Chica with her voice box and freddy with his ears all these upgrades are meant to find, contain/destroy the mimic if it ever got out we know that in Ruin that cassie couldn't tell the difference even tho we as a audience could. so in my theory freddy was suppose to use audio cues to detect if the mimic is pretending to be someone. however with having so many fans its very possible that the upgrade detected multiple instances of the mimic, because children in the audience were trying to mimic the animatronics voices. this would explain why there was a high level threat, as we know the mimic is a very dangerous entity.

[@hihilt2589]

This would make sense especially if you consider that there is good evidence that the glitchtrap virus is also just the mimic learning about afton and mimicking him (the style of the glitchtrap suit is almost identical to that of the suits the mimic has in its room, the post-it note room in SB holding a replica of the Afton family, the fact that the mimic was most likely part of the circuit boards getting scanned in to help with creating help wanted, the mimic having access to the vanni system and other pizzaplex systems throughout Ruin) Perhaps something went wrong with the other upgrades/the mimic turned kff the tech that was supposed to block it and that's why the gang ended up under the control of the virus/mimic

[@emrickthegr8162]

If you guys remember in the base game freddy is the only one with no upgrades

[@The_Demon_Diva]

I thought of this new Freddy as a replacement because in multiple areas of the pizzaplex it looks like there was some sort of clean up operation utilizing the endos (and perhaps the mimic). Perhaps this “new” Freddy was a publicity stunt to show people that Freddy and the gang will return, but new Freddy got destroyed by the other animatronics and maybe because of how derelict the building is fazer blast collapsed on top of him. But, that’s just my idea.

[@paranaenselol]

Yeah, also it makes sense the employees go there and fix some thing in the animatronics, like roxy gets her Leg casing a bit fixed, New faceplate, monty got metal support on hes shoulders that werent there before, chica got a little tape on her arm to fix some of her wires in place tought it could be herself that did that, and the main thing is chica e roxy got New wires in their entre body

[@homerman76]

Yeah, I think an attempt to repair the damage before the earthquake and sinkhole made it all a lost cause makes the most sense. We could even argue that maybe the Burntrap ending happened and Gregory returned to save Vanessa afterwards and that's how he became aware of the endoskeleton that was an even bigger threat.

[@Astr000]

@@paranaenselolyea they were probably trying to repair the animatronics or someone did

[@skylaria1822]

Tbh I still see people questioning Roxy's model as well. Also, the fact that certain areas and merchandise are visible in the Pizzaplex that weren't viewable in the main game. Ex. Bonnie and Foxy merch. Through Ruin, we can see that Roxy's attractions replaced Foxy's. So similar to Monty replacing Bonnie, it seemed that Roxanne replaced Foxy but MUCH earlier. We at the least still see Bonnie locations and messages/logs pertaining to Bonnie in game but we don't get a single thing about Foxy. Keep in mind that Foxy has always been a fan favorite too. The fact that there's Foxy merch visable here (Even in Glamrock gifts where the merch definitely wasn't present in the main game) makes me think this could be a prequel. There's logs pertaining to previous, major events in the past at the Pizzaplex. Meaning it's very well possible that shut downs happened at this place quite a few times (lack of safety protocols make the Pizzaplex susceptible to it too). Also, while this is cut from the main game, it makes me think...Glamrock Freddy has a line that states that he "Knows what people say about him" and he mentioned that "He's not like the other models" that those were "flawed" and that he would "never hurt anyone" and he asks, assumingly Gregory, if he believes him. I do agree with you that Freddy being a Prototype may be the reason why he is the way that he is in the Main game but I think it's also possible that we're seeing past events here in Ruin and that it might purely be coincidental that Freddy is damaged in the same way that he's damaged in those other endings. I feel like this is the only thing that explains why the other animatronic Endos look different as well too. I feel like just brushing it off as a retcon is just an easy way out, especially for a series where the developers know that all these details are critical to the base because the main draw to FNAF HAS been all the lore and theory crafting. To make such a large visual change and have that one thing be "Oh yeah retcon by the way" seems reckless when Steel Wool should know this community at this point.

[@homerman76]

It wouldn't be the first time the franchise messed with us like this, and it could be just before Gregory became a pawn of Glitchtrap for a time (explaining the elevator ending,) though the fact that we see a recording of Gregory fleeing Vanny seems to conflict with this being possible, on top of other issues like Monty being torn in half like he was in the base game 🤔

[@Its_Asteria]

I'd be inclined to believe you if the gregory stuff and plot line, wasn't the plot line. Cassie literally went to the pizzaplex to look for gregory. And the way the animatronics are damaged lines up with how gregory damaged them. Even with the model changes. The other factor is why would gregory have a friend with access to map files before ever having been to the pizzaplex? To add, in ruin, it seems the pizzaplex has been in a state of well, ruin. For several months. The other thing I can think of as well is, the animatronics, especially Roxy. Mention gregory, and think he's back. Why would they be aggressive toward gregory if he wasn't locked in the pizzaplex yet? I don't think it's reckless, considering the models do look a bit more refined in ruin. It's entirely possible that the models would've looked like ruin's models, in the base game, if they had more time to work on the base game previously.

[@xingxasa7194]

If it was a prequel, a whole lot more plotholes show up then just different models. Why do the animatronics sustain the exact same injuries as in security breach, why is there video footage of Vanny chasing Gregory, why would Gregory know maps of the pizzaplex in Ruin but not in Security Breach, why is there comic panels of basically future events, why is there a princess quest reference in the same room?

[@SuperDababy2]

who let you cook?

[@SnowyFrost-x3]

the only thing that makes no sense to me (I completely agree with the theory 100%) is the fact that Ruined freddy's foot says 'Prototype on it' when in Security Breach that's just not the case Although the possibility of the legs being swapped out, but they don't seem to be any different, honestly the weirdest changes in ruin it could have done without

[@Ideataster]

If steel wool wanted to slap prototype on Freddy to explain something, I'd expect us to see that texture updated in both SB and Ruin. But that doesn't seem to be the case.

[@homerman76]

@@Ideataster Exactly, there should have at least been some hints towards this, like if the word had been painted over and that came off (which honestly isn't a good explanation since paint doesn't work that way unless it's just really cheap.)

[@_hndle.15]

what about disappearing with the V.A.N.N.I mask?

[@SnowyFrost-x3]

@@Ideataster and it's annoying because they could have added it in the pre-ruin update but they didn't (although they did add more Vanny patrol lines, it's not new but she can say more than just Are you having fun yet so you win some you lose some I guess)

[@higueraft571]

@@Ideataster Actually, have they added Roxy's faceplate to SB yet?

[@fearglitchdragon7237]

Honestly I think the only way people who don't think the prototype Freddy is the same as base game Freddy, will even truly accept that they are one and the same is if Steel Wool comes out and confirm that prototype Freddy is base game Freddy. I honestly think them being the same makes more sense than there being two that just so happen to both get wrecked in the same spot and suffer the same injures.

[@Its_Asteria]

It's the same freddy but his head is missing (obviously), because it seems the princess quest ending is the main ending that the DLC goes off of, since that's the one where Freddy's head is taken with gregory and his body left behind. With the canon ending with fighting burntrap, I think what would have happened is while running, maybe freddy got buried by rubble and gregory was only able to take his head. That's what I'm thinking. The only way it'd be two different Freddy's is if they were preparing to swap freddy out. But the ruin events take place roughly, I'd say a few months after the main game's events?

[@foxboiunknown320]

I think his 3 implants corrupted him over time, however the removal of the head (even though it removes the eyes as well) also removes freddys head (likely the one component that fights the afton virus)

[@drxtale9446]

Although. Why doesn’t he have monty’s claws? They’re not colored purple and green.

[@endcaps1917]

@Its_Asteria also if you use the mask on the princess quest game cabinet it has a sword through it implying it is the Canon ending

[@foxboiunknown320]

@@drxtale9446 maybe someone is attempting repairs behind the scenes, we have a history of ppl trying to repurchase this cursed franchise, as well as killers using old parts

[@rockbender3]

I think multiple endings are true, and we’re supposed to find an order of events that explains it. Maybe, after destroying Afton, Gregory and Freddy search for Vanny as well, allowing for “The True Ending,” and the Princess Quest Ending both true.

[@gneu1527]

We could say that the endings are like, Afton ending then the Dissasemble Freddy ending, and he takes the broken head with him after dissasembling Vanny. It also explains why there is a Vanny mask, why this Freddy is headless, and why Afton didn't come back to take his remnant meds and is just gone.

[@alextemreal]

2:30 if they wanted to clarify that he was a prototype they could have always updated Freddy's texture file (in SB) to show that he is a prototype

[@mauromariano3936]

I completely agree with you. I had the same thought process since I first saw the FazerBlast section, especially when we see Princess Quest´s sword minutes before being attacked by a broken headless Freddy. I also agree with Freddy vanishing when Cassie has the mask being explained by the lack of head, where presumably all the important data of each animatronic is stored.

[@thatguy5601]

I like to think that the prototype version of Freddy is the one from his time being down there as said in the true ending it may have malfunctioned before but the headpiece was still good so they can replace the head with a newer body as the people that develop the glam rock animatronic still haven't decided the animatronic to replace Freddy

[@higueraft571]

Except, yet again, why is it in Fazer Blast, why does it have the EXACT same matching damage? Not to mention what seems to be Deshelled Monty's claws?

[@thatguy5601]

@@higueraft571 We don't know what the original prototype of Glamrock Freddy would have on his or it might have rebelled or something like after finding out what he was built to do and probably trying to get out of there but was found out by Vanny and was disassembled by Vanny using the button. True ending Freddy said he has been down there a few times implying he might have been programmed to forget his encounter in the basement along with his friends, we don't know whether Monty and Bonnie were there or not, and in one of his attempts, he might have rebelled probably leading to the destruction of Bonnie as he sounds the saddest when he visits there which for me might imply he might be the cause of Bonnie disappearing and Monty taking his place. It also explains why Monty has his board in the shadow while the other Glamrock animatronic is in the light in the Ruin DLC and why he hates Freddy. Also, he is the only one that has shown resistance to Glitchtrap on the true ending so his programming might have been tampered with by Vanessa to protect children before her Vanny persona took over but it might also be Gregory that might have done it to him instead. In the Ruin DLC Cassie has shown to be good with electronics since her dad was a builder and is probably the one that taught Gregory and Cassie about electronics and animatronic.

[@somisimons]

​@@higueraft571It isn't the same injuries tho, Glamrock Freddy in the princess quest ending lost (almost) ALL of his stomach hatch (both from the inside and the outside) while Ruin Freddy only lost some of the outside of the stomach hatch forming long, sharp teeth.

[@jamesrobertsteiner2475]

Here is the issue when it comes to Prototype Freddy in RUIN: if Glamrock Mr. Hippo replaced Freddy, then there would be no reason why they would leave Freddy's decapitated body in Fazer Blast. We know Fazbear Entertainment is accustomed to reusing old parts. But when it comes to the power of the Mimic: being able to take control of the other animatronics, it is not out of the realm of possibility that the Mimic planted the Prototype Freddy in Fazer Blast - hence why his head is unobtainable. But even if the new secret ending is available where you need to repair Freddy by finding his head, then there should be an arcade game playable to obtain that part of his body. We already did this with Chica for her voice box, and the theory is the same thing will happen for Monty with Gator Golf.

[@fatinamirah5305]

I thought the mimic can't get out unless the security is cut off. How can the mimic place the prototype freddy

[@jamesrobertsteiner2475]

@@fatinamirah5305 There is ambiguity on whether the Mimic and Glitchtrap (at least for RUIN) are two separate characters or are one and the same. When I said the Mimic placed Prototype Freddy there, I did not mean physically, but controlled Prototype Freddy via Mimic programming to end up at Fazer Blast.

[@TheAbyssalEnderling]

Glad to know I'm not alone in thinking this. I thought about Freddy's gradual decay too. Paint peeling away to reveal what lies beneath will happen over time.

[@Dj_Rabbit_83]

You make very valid points and bring up the gift box in Freddy's chest cavity, but one thing, I the area where Gregory gets the Mr Hippo magnet the gift box is shown already opened and still there not removed now in Freddy's chest cavity we see a green unopened gift box first the 2 gift boxes in Freddy in SB and Prototype Freddy are 2 different colors, second if we already know they are keeping consistency with which gift boxes are opened then why is Prototype Freddy's gift box unopened and that is why I truly think it is impossible that Prototype Freddy is SB Freddy

[@Wolfric_Rogers]

I think the gift box contains the Part Pass that Freddy would have given to Gregory if they had continued to explore the Pizzaplex rather than immediately confronting Vanny.

[@caldercockatoo2234]

My only issue is how, despite the Pizzaplex being open for a relatively long time, with multiple attractions being removed and replaced as we see in the books, Fazbear Ent. either A: Continued to use a flawed prototype as the main lead for a while, or B: Only began making Freddy models months or even years after the location opened. My only explanations for this are either that he's only the prototype for a SECOND more recent version of the Glamrock model, or that he seemed to work fine even as a prototype so they painted over his tag and continued using him. I prefer the former idea more.

[@higueraft571]

Honestly, pretty likely the second :V This is the same company that decided "Yeah, we'll just plug this endo into our network to make shit FOR us, what could go wrong?" Not to mention of course building over the Sinkhole

[@caldercockatoo2234]

@@higueraft571 True.

[@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574]

second

[@omni1012]

plot twist the prototype on Freddy's foot was just a design choice and the box in his chest was to tell us that this was our Freddy.

[@finleydoyle4913]

i want to point out that in the "ending vanny" freddy is missing his lower jaw and his left ear, while in the good ending he doesn't. plus he doesn't have the exact same injuries and paint does not cover his left foot at all. there's 2 different freddy's.

[@spookycyptidboo]

If the burn trap ending is canon then why is the pizzeria not burned and destroyed or at the very least why isn't the burn trap area burned away and destroyed? Not only that but the comics draw out every ending except for the princess quest ending which implies Gregory made the rest up

[@destoyerskeletonx9737]

@@spookycyptidboo in the code of sb burntrap ending is titled true ending

[@spookycyptidboo]

@@destoyerskeletonx9737 we can't take stuff in the source code too seriously, remember when when the princess from princess quest was called Cassidy? That ended up going to where. What we see in the dlc objectively leads us in a different direction with only ONE little detail in the entirety of the game pointing us in a different direction

[@destoyerskeletonx9737]

@@spookycyptidboo what do you mean it went nowhere? the whole theory is Cassity posseted the game character to finally kill glitchtrap which is what allowed Venessa to escape his control.

[@spookycyptidboo]

@@destoyerskeletonx9737 yeah but that theory was practically debunked when they changed the name again, that is to say the code isn't always reliable and should be used as secondary evidence! There is no evidence in ruin except the word "prototype" written on Freddy's food which could easily be explained away meanwhile there is plenty of evidence that Princess quest ending happened.

[@Cakes1170]

how does freddy have a gift box in him still if gregory opened it in the main story?

[@mxmo.outdanced]

Exactly, i still think theres 2 freddys, base freddy and prototype freddy

[@Cakes1170]

@@mxmo.outdanced glad im not the only one everyone seems to be set on it being a retcon but i don't think so

[@Wolfric_Rogers]

Easy, it's the Party Pass that he would have given to Gregory if they had continued to explore the Pizzaplex.

[@loganentertainment1814]

While Freddy being a prototype does support to his nature in game, it doesn’t explain his behavior in the Afton Ending. Still, you’re definitely onto something. I’d love to hear Matpats thoughts on the DLC when he finishes it.

[@styfen]

MatPat is still hung up on kids = 🤖. But if he gets over that after Steel Wool literally lampooned him with the plot of Ruin (a real Gregory robot this time with the mimic). Maybe we will get a good theory.

[@ImThePerson0]

The additional hint for this being the same Freddy is that the "prototype" we see in Ruin has all of the upgrades that we gave him. We can hear Chica's voice box when he roars and we can see Monty's claws, given their shape and sharpness.

[@JL-wg4os]

But how would the chica voice box still be there? Its added inside his mouth

[@skep2923]

@@JL-wg4osisn’t the voice box added via the chest cavity?

[@Sayne7]

@@JL-wg4os it's in the chest just under his bowtie

[@JL-wg4os]

@@skep2923 hmmm, i'll check it

[@JL-wg4os]

yep, its in his chest cavity

[@dangerouslysafe3]

You know... if people are considering Princess Quest ending as canon, that leaves one important question. Where IS Burntrap?

[@starman1004]

This is a very good theory and I really do want the PQ ending to be canon. Having said that, I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head (no pun intended lol) around the 'Prototype' on Freddy's leg. That is a detail that you see straight away before the cutscene plays which means Steel Wool intended to put that detail there for a reason but what that reason is no one really knows at the moment. And then it asks the question of "Well if it wasn't in the base game then why is it there now and why are they making it so obvious?". Also, this is just my experience but during the chase sequence it just didn't feel like Glamrock Freddy and it almost seemed like a nightmare version or hallucination of him as you even hear the robot 'roar' at the end of the chase.

[@Wolfric_Rogers]

The "PROTOTYPE" was certainly supposed to be seen and I think it was placed there in order to cause arguments over whether it's Freddy from the base game or not. It's a red-herring.

[@sinfinite7516]

I think the prototype freddy isn’t real indicated by the fact that when you put on the Vanny mask he disappears.

[@leandrolibor8663]

In secruty breach Freddy said at the beginning that he can’t connect to the network and maybe that could be the reason why we can’t see him with the vanny mask because the others are all connected with the network

[@J-YT1]

Your right😳

[@adrielcheazestrada2005]

If you guys look closely at the prototype Freddy model on his right shoulder he has a black piece of his bowtie, which means it can be a different Freddy because when he’s equipped with Chica’s voice box his bowtie is changed to be purple

[@estebangutierrez160]

What if the comic strips that Gregory drew was meant to make us think it contradicted the ending of Security Breach, as in lie to us that the Princess Quest Ending was the true ending. I still stand by the game's true ending, that being the Afton Ending. Since when has there been a happy ending in FNAF?

[@homerman76]

The Afton ending also depicts the moment when the location fell to ruin because of the "earthquake and sinkhole" mentioned by the news reports we see in game. Similarly, there's nothing about that ending that says Gregory couldn't have gone back and saved Vanessa afterwards, we do know that he went back to at least setup the security system, so saving Vanessa might have been what led him to discover the Mimic.

[@estebangutierrez160]

@@homerman76 at the same time, Vanny's fate remained unknown. So it's possible Gregory and GFreddy did try to save her while she was trying to get away.

[@justice8718]

Vanny is likely the one who made the drawings. Gregory wouldn't draw these images at the pizaa plex, create new Vanny symbols, or mess with the appearances of the Music Men.

[@devanloa]

nope, afton ending is canon the files confirms it "true ending"

[@higueraft571]

@@homerman76 >The Afton ending also depicts the moment when the location fell to ruin because of the "earthquake and sinkhole" mentioned by the news reports we see in game. My primary problem: The whole place was on fire, yet there's no fire damage? The Burntrap rooms are utterly unchanged too, despite the inferno...

[@DecoderWalrus]

I think its the same Glamrock Freddy in Security Breach and the Ruin DLC. Glamrock Freddy was always a prototype

[@tronix2214]

Here's something I doubt that anybody thought of what if all the endings in the base game somehow each have elements that's true that then fit into one big picture like for instance burn trap is nowhere to be found which means the blob probably did take him the princess quest is what set Vanessa free from her vanny persona which why the mask is left behind in the building Freddy & Gregory did leave while the building was damaged or burned in some areas why there's so many damaged places within the pizza plex as well as how the other animatronics are even more severely damaged

[@higueraft571]

>which why the mask is left behind Problem is, it's neither the SB or HW mask, though it's similar to the latter on the outside Also Burntrap involves fire, there's no fire damage.

[@tronix2214]

@@higueraft571 there's literally only one vanni mask that's like the one she left behind in the princess quest ending nothing else suggest otherwise also it has the same abilities that vanni used in the base game

[@tronix2214]

@@higueraft571 actually there was mainly towards the entrance an other areas through out the plex an something of that caliber must of happened for the animatronics to be that severely damaged way more than they were in the base game

[@higueraft571]

@@tronix2214 >Only one Vanny Mask Wrong. Have you forgotten Help Wanted? And more importantly note: The *design* is wrong. The eyes are different. The shape is different. The material is different, etc etc. The more Plastic/solid mask *much* more closely matches the HW mask than SB mask, including the Tuft the SB mask lacks. ...except it probably isnt QUITE that same mask either. At least unless Vanny added onto it after the last time we saw it.

[@tronix2214]

@@higueraft571 lol I'm not talking about help wanted strictly the one she left behind that sat next to her blue bow & no the designs from both are pretty much one to one

[@madgamersam1293]

Another thing: In parts and service, Vanessa said that Freddy’s casing will be put on a new endo.

[@ZeeFwis]

i always kinda assumed any part of the endings not in comic form are considered to be cannon to some degree with maybe a change in when they happen

[@9fatal_error9]

The only thing that I don’t understand is Princess Quest Ending is not canon because it’s comics

[@thomasfarrelly2004]

I don't think prototype freddy and og glamrock freddy are one in the same because vanessa said to freddy that she was planning on slapping his suit on a different endo so that could explain why it was aggressive and not friendly because it was something vanessa/vanny made to replace him

[@Jonrocks7]

THANK YOU! I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS AND PEOPLE KEEP GOING “oH bUT tHE FrEe vANnY eNDiNG hAS a HeADLesS fREDDy iN iT”

[@thomasfarrelly2004]

@jonrocks791 ikr like seriously that freddys got a gift box, but glamrock freddy doesn't cause we took his one with the fazwatch in it plus vanny knew freddy wasn't bad so it wouldn't surprise me if she made proto freddy

[@higueraft571]

@@thomasfarrelly2004 >but glamrock freddy doesn't cause we took his one with the fazwatch in it That one was different. Now ALSO consider: In the "Vanny" route, you do not receive a second Party Pass. In the "Stay" route, you receive one from him. Where is it?

[@thomasfarrelly2004]

@@higueraft571 yes but if they were the same then that would mean only two of them would be damaged not all three of them so explain that how come all three of them were shattered

[@Creative_YT]

1:09 that ain’t a Headless Freddy that’s a Freddyless Head

[@Righgt]

The biggest mystery isn’t that for me, it’s why is there a princess quest sword in a vent and if there is a fourth ending to ruin dlc because of the fact that we can fix chicas voice box but why adjuster her and sun&moon, I think the fourth ending is the fixed ending where we fix all the robots and they help us defeat the mimic

[@indodinoyoutube]

There IS a fourth ending file that's empty, so it's possible that they could still be working on a fourth ending for an update to the DLC!

[@higueraft571]

>and if there is a fourth ending to ruin dlc There isnt... yet. As of right now there's absolutely nothing attached to the "none" ending at all.

[@Righgt]

@@higueraft571 it’s just a theory.

[@Mcguyro]

They didn’t got explained because at the start of the chapter, they said the pizza plex got an earth quake.

[@tsuaririndoku]

I like the idea of Freddy and Bonnie be the Prototype Animatronics in SB. Just thinking about it. Bonnie and Freddy is the most recognizable character in FNAF and can relate back to Fredbear’s Character. It is recognizable for the kids and adults but the New Fazbear Entertainment doesn’t want parents to reminding them past events that happening in Afton era. So they try to replace older Animatronics as possible. Chica repainted to make her looks totally different compare to other Chica we all knew. Foxy being replace by Roxy. Now the issue is Bonnie and Freddy. Because these two even you changed color everyone knows that’s Freddy and Bonnie so the company decided to replace them with Hippo and Monty but couldn’t find an excuse for it. Because replacing iconic character can leads to backlash. So they what they do is dispose of them. Force Monty to be agressive and killed Bonnie so that Monty can take his place while Freddy is more popular which they willing to keep him for a while until the Glitch happens. He is on a lock down after that and Fazbear planning to replace him for that reason. Unfortunately Gregory was there and make Freddy escape with on,y his head. IDK this is just my Theory tho. It actually makes more sense why Freddy is a Prototype as well as why Bonnie is targeted. If I made both are 2 Prototypes. This explains a lot why Bonnie and Freddy in SB is really close friends because they were created at the same time by a Prototype Design. Freddy’s Body and Bonnie Body is also similar in design and structure compare to the others. This also explains why Bonnie is replaced by Monty and why Freddy getting replaced by Hippo. Oh another of my theory of Bonnie’s death is not Monty kills him btw. I think it might be a Staff bots. I mean just look how damaged Freddy is and compare to Bonnie’s injuries. They are very identical.

[@FredbearOfficial]

That's cool and all, but what about the Freddy head in the thumbnail

[@NivekVX]

To make it short, what kind of thing must have happen to freddy that ripped his torso open, removed his Hands/Claws and removed his Head if not the staffbot attack?

[@Weeklongwind647]

So Ig it kinda also explains the secret ending in ruins where Cassie sees Gregory, helpy, and Vanessa by a tree. But, we see no Freddy head. But, it could also be implying that ruins took place after the save vanny ending. As again you said the drawings are representing non-canon events.

[@veronicalangford1278]

Vanny ( vanessa) vanessa herself wanted changed new robot... (Monty changed new one robot glamrock freddy) When glamrock freddy with gregory right? Gregory thinks real glamrock freddy. (Not glamrock freddy.was Monty) it's Monty.

[@Chad-A-Porterproductions]

Ruin freedy: tearing Cassidy to shreds Meanwhile gralmrock freedy: I think something bad is happening

[@realguy1235]

THANK YOU,IVE LITERALLY BEEN GETTING MAD AT PEOPLE SAYING THAT HES JUST ANOTHER FREDDY! THEN DHY DOSE HE HAVE THE SAME WITHERING IN THE VANNY ENDING!!!

[@rosies69]

Stop/j

[@RyanCreates20084]

when you get the choice to pick to leave or go to vanny you already destroyed two animatronics and if you stay you destroy free animatronics but in ruin Monty chica and Roxy are damaged

[@rad1165]

But It is another fake prototype Freddy doesn't have a head connected to Freddy body at all the real Glam Rock head is not there at all at security breach its with Gregory cuz he carried it with him also he says my friend has maps to building

[@realguy1235]

@@RyanCreates20084 I thought that also until I saw the cutscene in the vanny ending, you can see that freddy has the claw upgrade( for some reason)

[@RyanCreates20084]

@@realguy1235 yea bec u pick chica or monty

[@НесінБорис]

I thibk one of reason to use decal "prototype" is a way to hide defections of Freddy. If someone spot weird Freddy movements or something else. than company will say "dont worry its just a prototype of Freddy. And Final wersion of him is working and haven't any problems". And then they just replace him with new one till next defections and they will repeat its one more time

[@wamalam]

The "Princess Quest Ending" is infact, not the one shown in the Ruin DLC, there may be a few hints to it, but nowhere near as many as the "True Ending" such as the cave in, The Blob being free, The Mimic having some of Burntrap's parts, all three animatronics being destroyed, and more importantly, the thing we see on the wall right next to the Princess Quest game in the Vanny room, Cassidy (The main character in the Princess quest game) Corrupted by Glitchtrap, showing that she was not freed. I may not mind the condradictions in the Glamrocks designs, because usually there's only one, or maybe two, I can count 3 with the "Glamrock Freddy" those being the foot shape, damage done to his chest, and the prototype thing on his foot, and thats with looking at him for a few seconds. This is as dumb as Miketrap.

[@Wolfric_Rogers]

The Mimic only has one singular part similar to Burntrap; its left hand. Also, if we're taking Tales from the Pizzaplex into account, then the Mimic has been sealed away since before the Pizzaplex was built. Seeing as the Mimic was still trapped until Cassie used the forklift to free it, then that means there is literally no chance of it being Burntrap. Burntrap is either just Afton's corpse modified with Glamrock endo parts, or Burntrap never existed at all.

[@higueraft571]

>such as the cave in, The Blob being free, The Mimic having some of Burntrap's parts Have you forgotten that the sinkhole was a problem BEFORE Burntrap?? Blob literally burrowed the fuck out and brought the place down, if Grimic is anything to go by, and why would the Blob not be free in PQ? It's hanging out below, and could just dig out at any time. Also how did Mimic get the parts from Blob, exaclty? You also forgot the fact there's 0 fire damage, despite the raging inferno in Burntrap, inside and out.

[@Wolfric_Rogers]

Good points; there are messages talking about the sinkhole causing problems with the raceway. There was nothing stopping the Blob from tunnelling out, it was simply asleep when Gregory goes down in the Afton ending, but wakes up during the confrontation. There's nothing to say that it wouldn't wake up after any of the other endings. And indeed, the Pizzaplex isn't burned at all, and the Burntrap rooms don't look any more damaged than they were in the base game.

[@wamalam]

@@Wolfric_Rogers I'm not saying the Mimic IS Burntrap, just that he took some of Burntrap's parts, like a scavenger, because we see how he's just a mess of different parts.

[@wamalam]

@@higueraft571 the hech are you talking about 0 fire damage? And "blazing inferno?" The fire was only in the basement from what we saw, it was most likely covered up by debris, and we can't see any fire damage because there's already too much fire damage in the area because of the FNAF 6 fire.

[@somama8432]

One thing to point out. The only part that isn't as damaged on Freddy is the prototype foot. It's possible that Freddy's foot was too damaged, or possibly destroyed, that he need a replacement from a prototype model

[@liamclaydon3780]

If the princess quest ending was real Then how did the building fall apart that badly It doesn't sound like Gregory aged when he speaks to you (real Gregory obviously). Especially since he speaks about knowing the mimic was there (which was in the pizzeria location, meaning he had to have gone there at least once, which couldn't have happened without an upgraded Freddy) While the design is undeniably connected to the destroyed freddy in the ending. That could've just been an inspiration for what a ruined Freddy would look like. Another point is in the same ending his head is also torn into, but his head is depicted as untouched in the ending. Which I think can also prove this point. I believe it was included because they already had all the other main animatronics features and decided to add him any way. Creating the prototype as an excuse (thinking they are the same is giving them to much credit they didn't think the main story through or much about the ruin dlc)

[@FandomObsessedArtist]

First , the pizza sim location is under the sb , in pizza sim one of the lawsuits was cuz of a sink hole and someone falling through, A earthquake happened or something happened that caused the sink hole. After sb they had to close for fixing up the mess only to get hit with a different thing ,

[@spookycyptidboo]

If the burn trap ending is canon then why isn't the pizzeria burned? It fell apart in the burn trap ending

[@Maximusprime0714]

I believe there is a theory that something/someone is using Gregory’s voice to lure in Cassie but with that she would know what Gregory sounded like imply that he sounds the same(I always just thought that the building got ripped down after what Gregory did because he destroyed the place)

[@bambooshoot4590]

This also helps explain why we can win Chicas voice box since the princess quest ending only lets you upgrade from either Chica or Monty, and in the cutscene where Freddy gets torn apart he has Montys claws, which would mean that Chica never had her voice box taken by Gregory.

[@peterknopf553]

Has anyone ever considered that it’s prototype Freddy because fazer blast is legitimately Freddy’s section of the pizza plex? They likely just gave a endo a new exosuit but all they had was a prototype of the original and put it in place before the earthquake struck and shook up the building and everything else inside.

[@alpha9dragon741]

I think Freddy was chasing us to put us his chest cavity to keep us safe like he did with Gregory. He was also able to take Gregory out of the chest cavity so who's to say he can't put us in

[@klaibefhuoaiuwehjklbdfsnxnik]

I think the prototype label is just a detail they added to clarify things in the base game.

[@CJK_781]

Another thing that points to the Princess Quest ending being Canon is that its the only Ending with 3 Stars even the Afton Ending had 2 Stars

[@chargrill1387]

I think the devs only just thought of a prototype on Freddy's foot because he is meant to be a prototype.

[@wogey_yt4113]

One thing I want to know is how can Gregory draw those endings if he never experienced them? One of the comics confirm it was drawn by him.

[@Sellis15]

This is a great explanation for freddy being headless but without the true ending the pizzaplex wouldn’t be completely destroyed

[@vinny5325]

The blob is still in the pizza plex It's very hard to notice, but it is still there.

[@KingOIIy]

​@InternetInferno I think there is one thing a lot of people don't mention for some reason, in the "bad ending" when Cassie gets dropped in the elevator. The reason Gregory knows where to tell you to go is because "I have a friend with the layout" now unless Vanessa is with him and is helping Gregory for some reason, the most likely person this is is Freddy. How could this be our Freddy if our Freddy is most likely the one with Gregory currently?

[@FeinIou]

Because Freddy is currently a head but his body still can be in control of Freddy

[@Springtrap000]

What I think would be crazy is if all the ending were true endings, in the dlc there’s a lot of stuff to say that it all links to all the endings. So what would be crazy is that no matter what ending you do, all endings come to one for one ending. (It’s just a theory, don’t take it personally).

[@777SilverPhoenix777]

At this point I believe everyone is misinterpreting what Steel Wool meant by the confusing changes. I'm leaning towards the DLC being Non-Cannon much like DLCs before it. It makes more sense for the DLC to be non-cannon when Steel Wool specifically just renamed the Burn Trap ending to "True Ending" in the game files. A LOT of the DLCs to prior games have been non-cannon so there is precedence for this to be that case.

[@insomnia5354]

Maybe the fact that Mr Hippo is the one who replaces Freddy is a reference to the "terrible" magnet and Gregory did not know he was a prototype and since Gregory thought that he would be replace Mr Hippo was the first that came to mind

[@hiddendesire3076]

2:45 Counterpoint. If it is Gregory who cuts the elevator, it makes sense for that being a different Freddy. Leave behind a Freddy prototype so to anyone looking into it, all of the animatronics are accounted for at a glance.

[@joeywomer]

Freddy being a prototype in the base game does explain why his battery dies out pretty quickly.

[@DJ_Music_Man2]

Bonnie Theory: maybe the reason bonnie is deactivated is because a different bonnie at a different Pizzaplex did something so bad they had to change and redesign. (Btw there are actually more than one Pizzaplex which is clarified in the books)

[@Reptiles_Are_Dope]

(Just a head up I’m only at 5:57) I would really like if In the 2nd part of SB going off of the assumption that the elevator shaft falling wasn’t actually Gregory 😅, somehow leads to him going back to the Pizzaplex with Freddy’s head and saves Cassie. They then both have to find Freddy and repair him as well as take down the mimic. It would also be ABSOLUTELY AMAZING if Bonnie gets repaired and all 4 of them work together (Gregory and Freddy and Bonnie and Cassie) to take down the mimic once and for all. It also works seeing as Freddy and Bonnie are probably the most salvageable animatronics, seeing as Roxy no longer has any eyes.

[@8Ghoul8]

But the chest injury is from "disassmble" endind and the missing head from princes ques ending, 2 diferent endings , with diferent actions that dont go togeder

[@king-burger]

Freddy is also literally on top of staff bots

[@prestontippie4349]

Mentioning that all of the animatronics were controlled during security breach except for Freddy makes me wonder if Bonnie was too? Since he did have a small amount of power left, but no one knew he was there as well

[@mifflewiffle]

steel wool: MATPAT YOU REALLY THINK YOU CAN DEFEAT ME??? (prototype sign slowly starts to appear)

[@Azypic_Official]

Freddy's head is missing: BIGGEST FNAF MYSTERY Meanwhile, the box: am i a joke to you

[@ghostember1506]

So hear me out, what if it’s a combination of endings? The comic panels we are given seem to indicate the different endings, or at least how Gregory would’ve imagined they’d go had they played out longer… so what if, the roof ending was Gregory’s initial plan until he discovered the secrets of the pizzaplex. The just leaving ending could’ve been what he imagined would’ve happened had he just left, but what if the burntrap ending happened first and Gregory imagined it had ended with him and Freddy escaping to a hill, instead he went to fazerblast where Freddy was disassembled, now instead of getting revenge as in a moment of grief (he would’ve reasonably wanted to), he knew he had to free Vanessa from what was down there, and so he freed her, this could further explain Gregory’s knowledge of the Nexus machine protecting everyone from the mimic. After freeing Vanessa reasonably he could’ve asked some questions and understood the area a bit better why Glitchtrap or whatever that rabbit was, was expelling from the machine is anyones guess but I’m here to try and kill a civil war, and so I say all endings are canon to a reasonable extent.

[@m0bxralph846]

I personally think the ruin Freddy is a different Freddy, and the bugs in the beginning of security breach was Freddy detecting something wrong and malfunctioning. And steel wool adding the prototype label a bit latter was to help differentiate the 2

[@noahthespike]

Heres another thing i noticed. People saying afton was canon because the ending was animated had a decent thought process, but the Vanny ending, err sorry, "Vanny boss battle" according to steel wool starts itself off with a fully animated cutscene. Afton starts off with in-game animation, not just a video file

[@AtomicPuma9]

The whole Freddy thing stinks of red hearing to me. I think steel wool wants us to believe that the princess quest ending is the one and only canon ending but I think that’s both the princess quest ending sorta happened but the final part never happened where Freddy doesn’t get disassembled but instead Vanny is free, then Gregory goes to the burn trap ending where they escape together.

[@higueraft571]

...except Greggory HAS to complete Princess Quest to free Vanessa. He cant do 2/3 arcades and call it done.

[@AtomicPuma9]

@@higueraft571 but who says the “true ending” can’t have Gregory complete the 3 cabinets and Vanny just leaves then Gregory does the ending with Burntrap. Let’s remember that during that cutscene where Freddy gets torn apart he has the upgrades in him IN that cutscene. The Freddy we meet in ruin has no upgrades whatsoever.

[@userblock5086]

That 2 ending suits really well.. Dying freddy ending, Gregory still has access to his body, so he could take his head off to repair him hence he said at the end that he got friend that knows and can access the map.. The princess ending, is the same as easter egg ending.. Don't forget both of this ending shows VANNI mask still in the place

[@zendpixie]

I think Freddy being invisible in AR mode is more a reference to how he was cut off from the network at the start of the game - and seemingly the only animatronic cut off, as Vanny realized she won't be able to get a use out of him without manually tampering (like she does in the repair room before we cut off her work half-way. We were supposed to help repair Freddy ourselves, before Moon kidnapped him so Vannessa could do it instead. After this cutscene, any time Freddy is on low power, he uses those last few pegs to kill Gregory - which did not happen previously. It means she managed to tamper with him after all, but not too much). Freddy attacking could also be connected to that - after so long, even if not moving, the rest of his body must be on low power by now.

[@godzillalegendary4200]

Freddy was explaining he was not the first Glam Rock Freddy. He was thinking there were other verges of him a different pizzerias and he was right

[@Iso20227]

6:22 At the end of the dlc when Cassie is running from the mimic, Gregory actually says something interesting about this. “My friend has access to the maps, just follow my instructions”. My idea, was that his friend was either Freddy’s head (canonically), or Vanessa.

[@Juliialii]

I'm from Germany and in the subtitles of the DLC the word "friend" was translate in "Freundin" which means a female friend. So it has to be Vanessa. 🙈

[@Iso20227]

@@Juliialii fair. I still have plenty of theories about Vanessa.

[@Swankydopeshow]

WAIT I JUST REALIZED, Gregory says In "A friend of mine has access to the building" during the chase with Mimic further proves this theory as based on that context Cassy doesn't know who Gregory is talking about which means he never told her about Freddy as again she would have mentioned it when interacting with his drawings just like with her affinity towards the foxy talkie

[@MrSonicHedgehog]

Thing is Gregory did tell Cassie "We can't risk being followed" and with the Burntrap ending being listed in the game files as the true ending, we can safely say GRF is whole and with Gregory

[@platanutre06xx58]

I think that the prototype Freddy is the base game Freddy because of Montgomery Gator’s claws, in the comic ending where Freddy was destroyed it can be seen that the claws are revealed. In the DLC the claws are also revealed.

[@cloudshifter]

it's simple, princess quest is canon, Freddys head was took by Gregory and Freddys body was damaged by the janitor robots. Freddy is Ruin is met in the fazz blaster arena where he was attacked at the end of security breach. I am personally happy that all 3 characters got a happily ever after, they even got Freddy to be with them as a friend.

[@blindfoldedproductions8984]

I just can’t agree with the idea of the Freddy seen in og security breach being a prototype Freddy, like sure it explains why Freddy didn’t get corrupted and controlled but for how long the pizza plex must have been around, it would be illogical that only Freddy, one of the 2 original character animatronics left (Chica being the other) would be a prototype, but not Roxanne, chica, or monty! And the fact that Freddy, around the time where he is the most dirty and scratched up (around 6 am) doesn’t even begin to show the prototype label on his foot disproves this theory, but of course it might be true through the really weird and inconsistent fnaf lore

[@KillerQueenn.]

Short story Princess Quest ending is the Canon one because 1, Gregory takes Freddy's head and Vanessa is free 2, if you turn left instead of right you see Vanessa sitting on the hill with Gregory

[@RayThePixelated]

The second is not canon

[@RayThePixelated]

Because Cassie probably dies and goes insane in the ar world

[@KillerQueenn.]

@user-tx2qy6lj8w I know that part, but like makes you think why "is Vanessa there with Gregory? oh wait she's free, right" Fun little theory I remember hearing though from when you turn left when Cassie puts on the mask, this 1 comment said that it was the mask calming down Cassie before she dies, dark but proves a point

[@kaaz8]

youre the first person ive watched thats actually explained ruin lore in a really accurate sounding way. this video and your mimic gregory video is exactly what ive been thinking!!!!

[@omar4713]

blud go to sleep 😭 (good stuff

[@subjectfnaf]

Nah most likely they moved freddys chip inrto the helpy animatronic

[@LolbitLazzy]

I know this was before help wanted 2 came out, buuuut, I wanted to say that Roxy has a new face because we gave her it in help wanted 2, help wanted 2 predates ruin/happened first, basically.

[@jenk4849]

Team this man up with Matt pat over a game theory

[@geraldgodoy7600]

I think it’s the normal game Freddy but he just stepped on a prototype product with still wet pain

[@ender01o66]

Prototype Freddy also has a different endoskeleton than regular Glamrock Freddy.

[@higueraft571]

So does Roxy :V

[@ender01o66]

@@higueraft571 You mean the makeshift mask she creates for herself? Her actual endoskeleton us the same, and is different than Prototype Freddy.

[@higueraft571]

@@ender01o66 >You mean the makeshift mask she creates for herself? ??? How the hell did she machine a whole faceplate, one that works with the Wrench. Last i checked the Animatronics (Thank god) dont have power tools. And if she were *making* parts that actually function, WHY the hell does she not have eyes, if she can see well enough to make the faceplate? Eyes are much easier to get than a whole face.

[@ender01o66]

@@higueraft571 She also repaired parts of her left leg too.