INTJ's Are Actually 2 Different Types

[@TrueYouSystems]

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[@AA-lq5pu]

Wow this explains alot. The company psychologist tested me as INTJ but I dont waste my time correcting and trying to control others.

[@TrueYouSystems]

I'm so glad this was helpful, thank you!!

[@_PanchoVilla]

So sad companies are adopting this pseudoscience framework

[@jerrysstories711]

What could be more futile than trying to correct others???

[@AA-lq5pu]

@@jerrysstories711 100% . Yup, even if I get accused of something I did not do I don't waste my time explaining. I just let them think whatever they want.

[@Nightmare_.gaming]

(I haven't saw the video yet) but maybe you would be a NiFi according to sop theory (There are 32 subtypes of each types divided into 16/16, in your case it's NiTe for 16 personalities and NiFi for another 16 personalities)

[@elypelowski5670]

Wow, you really conveyed the variances of INTJs succinctly and VERY accurately. Much appreciated.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you!! So glad this resonated with you!

[@ajoo10]

Hi Ayla. This was really interesting! While I lean towards type 1, i'm a mix between the two and type 5 describes my behaviour particularly when I feel stressed or lacking confidence. Intrigued to find out more about the enneagrams.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you! Glad you found it interesting! That's a great point. We often have one main dominant type but we also use other types in our Tritype (a mixture of one dominant type from each center of intelligence). So, you may use the pattern of 1 in most of your life but lean on the pattern of 5 in certain settings. Hope this is helpful! Thanks so much for sharing! 🤗

[@pfcspencer11b]

@@TrueYouSystems I kind of felt the same. I hit all the type 5 descriptors except the ones regarding moral and cultural norms, in which I have an almost paladin like attitude. I also have the type 6 traits mentioned at the end, but I believe that just stems from my view of everyone else treating morality less stringently than me leading to a general distrust of others. This video was very informative and I appreciate how much you were able to help me understand myself.

[@stu6097]

(INTJ 5) Very good subject for video!. Glad someone finally covered this topic in structured way! Another topic might be mixing the enneagram instincts. Like comparing-- SP Self Preservation 5 INTJs verses SX Sexual 5 INTJs verses SO Social 5 INTJs.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you so much, glad you liked it!! I absolutely LOVE that idea -- definitely going to do that! Thanks for the great suggestion!

[@pfcspencer11b]

I need to know what a sexual 5 is...

[@stu6097]

@@pfcspencer11b I am INTJ SP5 and am friends with INTJ SX5 and he just has more desire for connection with other individuals(not groups though). I have the tendency to be alone all the time and get lost in my own things. If we socialize, he tends to be the one to reach out. He will want to schedule a time for socialization. I would never bother doing that. We have been friends since we were little kids.

[@pfcspencer11b]

@@stu6097 I'm starting to think I'm more of an INTP. When I take the personality tests I'm right on the dividing line between judging and prospecting.

[@Chekuthan0101]

Great Video. Now I know why I can't relate to many INTJs traits. But the type5 you described is so accurate. Fantastic work👏

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you so much! I'm glad you found it accurate, and I appreciate the comment! 🤗

[@richardbarry2140]

Thank you for this video. I'm INTJ and 5 and you have described me quite well, including my aversion to $15 plus wine. I do take action on, and finish, my projects, though sometimes after several weeks or years or decades after first thinking about them. And I'm much warmer emotionally to the people around me than if I were a robot, though I do tend to squirrel myself away in some hidden corner to contemplate and observe my inner and outer world and, in doing so, neglect my relationships. ☺

[@TrueYouSystems]

Happy you found it relatable! These are such great examples, thank you for sharing!🤗

[@KlaraL-_-]

I´m an INTJ and it seems that both 1 and 5 fit me 😃

[@TrueYouSystems]

I'm glad you brought this up! Often if we relate to multiple types and their patterns, it's because we may have those in our tri type, a combination of our main dominant type plus a type from the others centers of intelligence (Thinking, Feeling, and Instinct). For example, you may use the pattern of 5 when utilizing your Thinking center (types 5, 6, and 7) and the pattern of 1 when using your Instinct center (types 8, 9, and 1). That would leave the Feeling center (types 2, 3 and 4) and the question, when I use my Feeling center which type do I lead with and use more often: 2, 3, or 4?

[@Benji.O]

I’m an INTJ and longtime student of MBTI who has casually taken the Enneagram a couple times over the years and always tested as a Type 5. My Enneagram knowledge is quite limited, but I related to everything you described regarding 5s in this video. Nice work!

[@TrueYouSystems]

Wow thank you! So happy it all resonated with you!

[@RonHaddock1]

INTJ1 - Explained very well. Helps a bunch.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you so much! Glad you found it helpful🤗

[@ramsesemerson]

I think most INTJ descriptions are mostly slanted towards 1s. I'm a 5 and didn't relate to INTJ for a long time because of the traits like being hyperorganized that don't describe me at all.

[@ramsesemerson]

I wonder if it also gets INTJ 5s mistyped as INTPs.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Such a good point! And good description of another difference between 1 and 5. Thanks for sharing!

[@TrueYouSystems]

Oh definitely! There are many INTP 5's! As well as ISTP and ISTJ, the constant being I and T for type 5. I briefly cover the different types of 5 in my "Are All 5's Nerds" video but definitely want to go into more depth with the different MBTI types and 5's! Thanks for pointing this out!

[@anonygent]

Your description of INTJ 5's sound more like INTP.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Great observation! 5's can easily be either P or J, so descriptions of 5's can ring true for folks who lean more P or who lean more J. 1's, on the other hand, really tend to be more J, often very strongly so, since being proactive and organized are core to Type 1 -- in fact, any of the other MBTI letters could be switched, except J: you can have Feeler 1's, Sensing 1's, even Extrovert 1's. The MBTI traits that are really core to Type 5 are I and T -- they're kind of baked into what it is to be a 5 (though even there, I've seen 5's who have worked on building their emotional intelligence score higher on F in some cases). 5's can definitely be strongly S, too -- those tend to be the 5's who are more into hard facts and details than abstract ideas. But S-type 5's and N-type 5's are both very 5, because the core motivation is the same: understanding the world around them, and avoiding intrusions. (BTW, I get into this a bit in my "Are Five's Just Nerds" video, and I'll do more on this topic sometime). Anyway, there's so much interesting stuff to dig into from your comment, thank you for contributing!

[@covetouscorvus]

Type 5’s are the quintessential INTP, being more heady, abstract, detached, unstructured, focused on acquiring knowledge and their personal interests/passions, so INTJ type 5s are naturally gonna seem more like INTPs. These two types are honestly closer in behavior than most people might think, though cognitively they are distinctly different.

[@EssenceofPureFlavor]

There are only 9 enneatypes and 16 MBTI types. Of course there's going to be overlap. There are 5 INTPs, INTJs, and even ISTPs. All of them are different from each other. Enneagram and MBTI aren't even dealing in the same categories. One is thought processes, the other is personal motivations. I am definitely an INTJ and not an INTP, wnd definitely a 5 and not a 1. For myself, 1 actually sounds more like what I think of when I think ISTJ. But that's not because there aren't 1 INTJs, that's because I'm not a 1 so I don't relate to it.

[@Shantri]

I found the perfect job (for me at least) that keeps me engaged and not bored: QA in pharma, highly complex, varied and checks most of the other boxes.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Interesting! Great example, thanks for sharing! 🤗

[@BuizelCream]

I definitely feel like I can relate to 5's, but I also have a lot of 1 tendencies as an INTJ, and even 6, but I notice this in differences in myself depending on the kind of social/work circle I'm in. There's this one group that I am very particularly 1 about it, like I hold them in high moral standards, but in another group I'm more chill about how they come across even though these same groups I genuinely care and treasure them, more like a 5. Another example is when it comes to food, I am particularly 1 about it, knowing the kinds of combos that are just the best and not regardless of expenses, but when it comes to fashion I'm more of a 5 and like to budget my expenses there. I'm still confused of my Ennegram type, but I know I'm an INTJ especially considering the cognitive functions.

[@TrueYouSystems]

These are such great examples of how we tap into different aspects of our personalities depending on context! We tend to have one main pattern that motivates us, but we also use a mixture of other types in addition to our main pattern or type. This is often called a Tritype (a mixture of 3 types from each center of intelligence). So it's possible you use the 5 pattern most when utilizing your head/thinking center and use the 1 pattern when utilizing your gut/instinct center. That would leave your heart/feeling center (2, 3, and 4) and figuring out which pattern you use most there. Hope this is helpful! Thanks for the great comment!

[@abhabhole3067]

This is really interesting. The '1' traits describe my younger self quite well. However, as I am growing and maturing, I am seeing many more '5' characteristics starting to appear in my behavior

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you! I'm so glad you found it interesting! In some cases what you are describing can happen based on when we have needed to tap into different parts of our Tritype (a mixture of 3 types, one from each center of intelligence). It might be interesting to look into which pattern is most dominant most of the time😊 Thanks for sharing and deepening the conversation! 🤗

[@light5634]

Wow! Very interesting!!! Looks like I've known one type 1, one type 3 and two type 5 INTJs. Really accurate descriptions. Thank you! Gave me a lot of insight and expanded my database with more structure to my observations. I'm an INFJ 1.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you!! I'm so glad you liked it! 🤗 I love how you show that even just among a few INTJs you know there is already great diversity in their different enneagram types! Thanks so much for the lovely feedback and for sharing! 🤗

[@zacharydavis4398]

:00 - 9:22 💯💯💯💯💯REAL LIFE💯💯💯💯💯 Thank you for spending the time to create and share this wholesome none excessively negative content perspective on INTJ’s ❤️and catching a more adequately nuanced take on the matter🙏🏾 much love ❣️ This is a rarity on the web/YT/etc algorithms/feeds/etc which always try’s to sneak in as many/maximum/etc excessive jabs/etc at the INTJ personality type for some reason smh

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thanks so much for this incredible feedback! I'm so happy it resonated for you! It's really helpful hearing what you liked about the video and what you related to so I can make more relevant and hopefully helpful content🤗Thank you so much!

[@nobodyabcd]

Interesting video i enjoyed it. I tested as a 5w6 but 8 and 1 are pretty even for my less dominant traits. I do have a compulsion to correct people when they are wrong and also give advice that nobody listens to but hate/distrust authority and societal norms.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you! So glad you enjoyed it! 5w6 makes a lot of sense from your description, especially the mistrust of authority. There are many 5's who report feeling a connection to 8 as they both share a movement point (a line of integration), or it's possible either 8 or 1 is in your Tritype 😊 So many layers to this -- thanks for sharing!

[@567ohyeah]

Haha INTJ type 8 here ( also testing VERY high on 5 - the second highest and VERY close to the score on 8 )

[@TrueYouSystems]

@567ohyeah It's possible you use both patterns in your Tritype (a mixture of one dominant type from each center of intelligence)😊 Thanks for sharing!🤗

[@hastia_s6705]

It just explained a lot to me. I have an ESTJ friend and she has two INTJ friends. One is me, the the other one is another person. She always tells me that you two giving me different vibes. She's more practical like me ( estj 1w2 ) and I am more in my head, even though I have a lot of good ideas, I won't bring them to life. And I am an INTJ with enneagram 5, so it was like, Ah! I get it now!

[@TrueYouSystems]

So happy to hear this was helpful! Your example really shows how much our enneagram types influence our mbti and why people with the same mbti type can be so different. Thanks so much for sharing! 🤗

[@shawnw.4440]

This made a lot of sense. I'm an INTJ 1 in my job, an INTJ 5 outside work.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you! This is a really good point! We have many different facets of our personalities and tend to utilize different patterns at different times. It's possible that both 1 and 5 are in your Tritype! (a mixture of one type from each center of intelligence)😊 The question, then, might be, which is my dominant type? This can be found by seeing what motivation and fear you relate to most often 😊 Thanks for sharing!

[@The-Labbed-Life]

It’s really interesting. I've been learning more abour the enneagram. In my case for your first point, I’m an INTJ type 5 and I hold people to high standards too. It’s not about being involved with people in the general sense but mostly not having BS in my life. If I let someone enter my world (any type of relationship) I want someone that I respect that can benefit to my growth. It’s basically to protect myself and be at my best. As you said it well, we like our alone time to recharge. One of the best sentence to describe that is: My alone feels so good, I'll only have you if you're sweeter than my solitude. PS: I like describing myself as an emotional robot (we're all humans after all) haha

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you! These are great examples, I especially like how you describe how alone time feels so good and that the person who might be taking the place of alone time must be really worth it. You might like my "3 kinds of INTJ 5" video, since it gets into how 5s do interpersonal relationships 😊. Thanks so much for sharing! 🤗

[@LostinMango]

I think Go through phases of both Traits certainly leaning more towards 5.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Good point! This can happen when 1 and 5 are both present in your Tritype, though as you say we tend to have one dominant type we lean towards more🙂 Thanks for sharing!😤

[@jlmiller417]

Great content! Definitely accurate for me as an INTJ, Enneagram 1.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you!! I'm glad it resonated with you! 🤗

[@SGtop5.DidYouKnow]

👏thanks for doing an INTJ video we need more

[@TrueYouSystems]

Yay! Glad you liked it! Let me know what other INTJ video topics you'd like to see! Thank you!!

[@SGtop5.DidYouKnow]

@@TrueYouSystems do a video about :- what you like and hate about INTJs Good luck 🤞🖤

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thanks for the idea!! And thank you!🤗

[@scottjohnson676]

Thank you. I've never heard this explained so well. I've always been a bit confused on this since the contradictions you mentioned were definitely noticable. I always thought it was because I was an Intj with p tendencies. At least thats how the test results were presented to me. The type 1 fit well until you dropped a 6 at the end. Still wonder if p tendencies are throwing a wrench in the works.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you! I'm glad you found this helpful! It's definitely possible you're and INTJ 6, perhaps with Type 1 in your Tritype. You might check out my "6 Fears" video and see if that resonates with you. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and adding to the conversation here! 🤗

[@anna-maysalgado7512]

Hello. I can pretty much relate more with a type 5 and a few traits from type 1. Last time I checked, I'm an intj 5w4.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Interesting! It's possible you have both 5 and 1 in your Tritype (your main type from each of the three centers of intelligence, Head, Heart, and Gut/Instinct). Thanks for adding to the discussion! 🤗

[@sin.mp3]

I never thought abt it like this! very eye opening info‼️ TY

[@TrueYouSystems]

Yay! Thank you!! 🤗

[@lazyscholar7932]

INTJ 6 has traits from both 1s and 5s. We pursue knowledge for a purpose, we are aware of societal pressures, and we try to make sense out of the world by developing frameworks to live by. And INTJ 6s definitely try to be loyal to others by giving advice on how to secure themselves and to avoid hardship. We feel uncertainty deeply as fear and anxiety, and we use our intellect to problem solve and to create structures that reduce our uncertainty and to feel more secure. 6w5 needs to be an honourable mention more for INTJ. Thank you for doing it, but more detail is needed...

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you for pointing this out and explaining the nuance so well! I agree there needs to be more on INTJ 6s! I hope to do more in the future and find this personal insight so helpful. Thank you for sharing!

[@KatanaKamisama]

My father is INTJ type 6w5, I'm type 5w4, but I exhibit a LOT of type 1 behaviors. My 5 is definitively the dominant type, but in certain cases I absolutely channel type 1 energy. I think it's important to for people to understand that no one is just ONE enneagram type. Everyone has all 9 types, just at different levels. Your Enneagram type is simply where you operate from the majority of the time, and which vice is most likely to influence your choices.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Great point and well said! We are definitely a mixture of all 9 types to varying degrees with one main pattern we tend to use most🙂 I wonder if one reason you relate to some 1 patterns is if it is in your Tritype (a mixture of your dominant type from each center of intelligence). Thank you for sharing and helping to deepen the conversation!

[@waytoocrazytomedicatemythe5028]

I don’t know, I’m fit both the 1 & the 5 based on this video. Trait 1: I am a perfectionist, and tend to dedicate my focus on fixing EVERYTHING & everyone. But for those who know me or if I’m forced to have to engage in the disruption of my “solitary confinement” time, I make it well known, right away, that I do not care, at all, to be around people, period. So it’s here and there because while I care nothing for any type of involvement with people, it is unavoidable. So know that & accepting that I go out of my way to have as less human contact as possible but with the contact that I do have they basically suggest that I may be considered to have ocd/ocpd.

[@TrueYouSystems]

It's possible you use both in your Tritype, with 1 being your dominant type and 5 being the pattern you use when you use your thinking center😊Both INTJ 1's and 5's share a strong need to have time away from others, so the question is what is the main motivation driving me and what do I fixate on more? Is it seeing flaws and needing things to be perfect? Or feeling unprepared for life and needing to know enough? Thanks for sharing!

[@twinesper]

Great video. So few people cover the overlap between MBTI and enneagram. Thanks!

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thanks so much! Let me know if there are other's you'd be interested in seeing 😀

[@twinesper]

I just found you're channel. I'll have to go through your backlog to see what you have already covered. @@TrueYouSystems

[@TrueYouSystems]

Yay thank you! I hope you enjoy!

[@stuffasvines2865]

Please look into the cognitive functions. Letter typing is actually used for big 5. Mbti is based on the cognitive functions.

[@TrueYouSystems]

I also find cognitive functions really interesting, as well as Big Five! Thanks for commenting!

[@Simplicityispeace]

I’m an INTJ and can definitely relate to the scoring as a 1 on the enneagram scale. I’m very misunderstood by many people that I come across and that includes family, friends and coworkers. It is what it is 🤷‍♂️

[@TrueYouSystems]

I'm sorry you've had to experience being misunderstood often -- that can be hard. MBTI N types make up a smaller percentage of the population and that can often contribute to being misunderstood. And people can often misunderstand the motivation behind 1s' behaviors which is unfortunate because 1s have so much to offer all of us. I really appreciate how conscientious and principled 1s are. Thank you for sharing your experience🤗

[@lk6789]

Thought I was a 1 but now definitely a 5. except for the spending, I wouldn't spend a lot for things that are transient e.g. the wine - absolutely a waste of money but for somethings there is no limit provided I have the 'cash' and its value for money e.g. a quality item that will last a life time.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Great example of thinking through the logic of something! Ultimately the Enneagram comes down to motivation, fears, and fixations that drive us as opposed to behaviors. So if you relate most to the motivations for 5 that's probably your dominant type 😊 thanks for sharing!

[@venusbaby7822]

This video was really funny and true at the same time! I couldn't stop laughing as you described me in meticulous details...Wow! Thank you for that. Things are making sense now. I fall into both categories. Yes, I'm weird but with a purpose 😀

[@TrueYouSystems]

Yay! I'm so glad you found it accurate and entertaining! Thank you! 🤗

[@willow1698]

Nice channel quality despite only being at 186.. 187 now, subs.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Aww thank you so much!

[@kar4799]

I'm laughing because when i watch skits about intjs and they're getting up in other people's business, I've always been sitting there like, "why on earth would I ever open myself up to a conversation like that?" It all makes sense now.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Great example! Glad you enjoyed and it resonated with you! Thanks for sharing!

[@maggied9918]

Thanks it really breaks it down. I did the eneagram and tested 99% type 5, 88% type 1 and 70% type 6. I am classic 5 but I do find myself afraid of making mistakes because I don't want people to think I'm incompetent. So stupid to worry about that, but I think it stems from childhood which the eneagram talks about. I know when I first took mbti I took it multiple times to see what I got, but every time I got intj. But really sums up my life being an intj female.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you! So many great points here 😄 It's not stupid at all! 5s are in the Competency Triad (along with 1s and 3s). They all share a need to be seen as competent and experience fear in different ways that they may not be capable and competent enough. So it makes sense many 5s feel similarly to how you do about competency 😊. It's possible your main type is 5 and that you have a wing in 6. You may also have 1 in your Tritype as well (a mixture of one dominant type from each center of intelligence). Hope this is helpful! Thank you for sharing!🤗

[@maggied9918]

@TrueYouSystems correct I am 5w6

[@TrueYouSystems]

Nice! 🤗

[@enfieldjohn101]

I am glad to find out that I am not the only one who sees a lot of what appear to be inconsistencies in MBTI descriptions, especially with INTJ. This theory that there is more than one kind of INTJ makes sense to me. It seems to me that the Enneagram model actually describes human personalities better than does the MBTI model. It is interesting to compare type 1s and type 5s. For example, a type 1 tends towards a type 7 when they growing, while a type 5 tends towards a type 7 when under stress. That is an interesting dynamic. Meanwhile, a type 7 experiences the good aspects of a 5 when growing, yet becomes more like the bad aspects of a 1 under stress. It's as if the types 1, 5 and 7 are closely linked. I test as an INTJ in MBTI tests, both when self-testing and when others test me, yet I don't identify with all of the descriptions given in MBTI books and websites. Until I discovered the Enneagram, I thought that maybe the MBTI tests were flawed or that I was taking them incorrectly. What your video discusses explains the disconnect very well. After studying the Enneagram and talking to people about it, it turns out that my main type is 5 with a stronger 4 wing (interestingly the stress type for type 1's) than the 6 wing. The connections among types 1, 4, 5 and 7 make my life experiences so far make a lot more sense. These connections are a good model for how I tend to behave and think under times of growth and of stress. Also, how formative experiences with others in my life such as my father and paternal grandmother who are likely a type 1 (no wonder people who know my dad and me say I'm like him when I'm doing well) and my mother and maternal grandmother who are likely a type 7 (no wonder they drive me crazy when I'm stressed). My maternal grandfather was likely a 2 (he fits the description perfectly) and my paternal grandfather was likely a 5 (he and I were a lot alike).

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you! I'm so glad you found the subject and descriptions helpful! I really like how you explain and describe your connection to your other numbers in growth and stress as well as your relationships to other people with those types! I definitely would like to do videos sometime on how types interact and experience each other 🙂 Thank you so much for sharing!🤗

[@FulvioGa]

I am type 1; but it is very difficult for me to spend more than 5 $ on a bottle of wine, because I cannot taste any difference between good enough bottles of wine.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Well said! Type 5s definitely do not have a monopoly on rationality, as your well-reasoned point exemplifies. 1s are concerned with virtues and principles, and if a particular 1 considers frugality to be a key virtue, then they will likely eschew frivolous expenses like overpriced wine. Thanks for sharing and adding to the conversation here! 🤗

[@Rwashere28]

INtJ 5w6 here! How about esfj 1w9?

[@TrueYouSystems]

Welcome, and thanks for sharing! 😊 Yes, you definitely see 1s who are ESFJ. Really, you see 1s across the MBTI for all the types ending in J, since J is associated with conscientiousness, organization, planning, etc. -- all things that are pretty core to Type 1. Great question, thank you for adding to the discussion! 🤗

[@arnevandeperre6931]

All tests and descirptions I've read and done in the past told me i was e5, but know there were some 1's and 5's i related with. I'm so confused now about which one I am

[@TrueYouSystems]

If you relate most to the motivations and fears of type 5, that's most likely your dominant type, but you may use 1 as well in what's called a Tritype 😊 We are a combination of types besides our main dominant type. This is often called a Tritype (a mixture of one dominant type from each center of intelligence). I hope this is helpful! Thanks for sharing!

[@run4cmt]

I never knew there different types. I for sure fit the #1 type. I always finish a book when I started.

[@TrueYouSystems]

I'm glad this resonated with you and helped you expand your thinking! Thank you for sharing 🤗

[@nooneneedstoknowmyname]

My thoughts while watching this video perfectly proves the point it was trying to make. INTJ 5 - Never felt more validated in the way I operate through life, and maybe there is a bit of truth to the fact that I usually test as INTJ and enneagram type 5. INTJ 1 - This isn't me at all. I used to correct people's grammar though, but it was more of a sense that I wanted to annoy them vs that it needed to be correct. I also love making goals, nothing makes me happier than working on a goal, if something is just handed to me, then it's not worth it because I don't feel the thrill of accomplishment. I'm can also be a bit extroverted too, because you can't do a lot of things alone, like play tennis or dodgeball. Currently I'm on the train of thought that I'm an ISxP 3 though. Still, I really appreciate how so much great information was put in a relatively short video.

[@TrueYouSystems]

I wonder if you use both 3 and 5 and which one is your main type 🤔 Your description about goals may show some centering around 3 possibly. 3s have a very strong need to accomplish goals and most importantly to be seen as having achieved those goals by others. 3s and 5s can share many surprising connections. Both are in the competency triad and feel a need to be capable in the world and seen that way. And both can tend to push feelings aside in order to be practical and efficient. There's lots of layers and it's so interesting to see how complex we really are! Thank you for sharing and deepening the conversation!

[@nooneneedstoknowmyname]

​@@TrueYouSystems ​It's no problem, thanks for taking the time to read and respond to my comments, you're very polite, it's cool. The thing about needing to be capable and be seen as capable is very true, as is the pushing feelings aside in order to be efficient. Not just mental feelings, but physical ones as well, it doesn't matter how hurt, sick, or tired I might be feeling, I don't stop until I complete what needs to be done. I have a question, is it possible for a type 3 to want to be seen as something that isn't that good? In middle school, this girl asked me out, which was strange because she was seen as the "bad girl" of the school, she was constantly getting into fights and getting detention, and there I was, the straight A teacher's pet who never even gotten close to getting a detention. I thought it was a prank, and I didn't really like her that much, but the thought of what people would think if we were a couple overpowered that, I thought that they might see me as secretly being bad as well, and that appealed to me.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Aww! Thank you! Of course I love this stuff and appreciate you sharing! Pushing aside physical needs for a goal can very much be a 3 pattern (8's can do this as well as other types, especially when the self-preservation instinct is lower). 3's can become so tied to a goal that they see it as who they are and feel that to slow down would have drastic consequences. They fear failure and being seen as failures. Fabulous question! 3's often have trouble assessing what they truly want apart from the expectations of society, family, and friends. So, many will experiment with testing out other personas separately and in different settings as a way to try on who they could be. In some cases, this can be trying on being something that is alluring because it is so unexpected and more "free" seeming than the persona they have been living. 3's want to be seen as achieving in whatever setting they are in, but that doesn't have to be the norm of what achievement looks like: it could be the best hippie, the best cool kid, the best goth, etc. 3's also are expert at compartmentalizing and do this with feelings as well as personas.

[@nooneneedstoknowmyname]

@@TrueYouSystems Thanks again lol, I'm glad I'm not being annoying or anything, I really enjoy talking about this stuff as well. I have a strong fear of failure, sometimes I won't even try at things if I don't feel like I will succeed, which technically is a failure in itself, but that's rare. Sometimes I can go a bit overboard with goals, even when I reached it, I still try to push the limits because, I think, if I made it this far, this I can make it further. What do you mean by compartmentalizing exactly?

[@TrueYouSystems]

Definitely not annoying at all, and I could go on and on about this stuff too haha! 😆 I really love getting to learn from people about themselves and their experiences🤗 Such great examples here! Including 3s pushing the limits of success. Both 3s and 8s have a good gauge on what could be a potential failure, with 3s fixating on what will people think of them and how will they value them if they fail, and 8s fixating on whether failure may show they are vulnerable. Compartmentalizing is a defense strategy of blocking off different parts of oneself that conflict. So, for example, having certain feelings when in one group but then totally opposite feelings when surrounded by a very different group, but not addressing or acknowledging that conflict. Or, keeping different aspects of one's life separated. Thanks for sharing such great examples and questions!

[@geekcollage]

INTJ here, I frequently test as a 5 but i can see 1 in the needing to right injustices in the world and giving advice (or logical arguments) which no one listens too. Plus i can't stand wine. 😂 I struggle with organization but not when it comes to work or hobbies. Long term prioritization is hard, but i can organize instantly in an emergency or most effective responses for troubleshooting. What would you recommend on finding out how to catagorize the variations in the Enneagram? I want to learn more about it.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Love these examples! Excited you are interested to learn more! I recommend reading a bit about each type and seeing what resonates with you, or watch my short intro to the 9 types video and see what you connect with😉. Then from there, start to piece together your dominant type from each center of intelligence (feeling, thinking, instinct). There are so many layers and so much depth to this system to keep expanding understanding! If you relate most to type 5 and the motivations for 5, that's most likely your dominant type. But we use one type from each center of intelligence, so it's possible you also use type 1 when you experience anger and use your instinct center (types 8, 9 and 1). That would leave the feeling center, types 2, 3 and 4, and you may go to one of those three types most often when you use that center. Some of what you described may be from which wing is dominant for you. The wings are the numbers next to your main type, and they can influence how the main type presents. For 5, that's types 4 and 6. 6's are excellent trouble shooters always ready in an emergency. I hope this is helpful! Thanks so much for sharing and the great question!

[@kenichi407]

there is a fine line between the two.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Yeah! There can be a lot more nuance between types when they share the same mbti😊 Thanks for the observation!

[@kennethheres5643]

Try considering the cognitive functions of why they are like it too. Dario Nardi is good at explaining it

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you for the recommendation! You might be interested in my most recent video, which discusses the insights and limitations of cognitive functions specifically and the MBTI in general: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZDIl4eMjMqUpa8 I'd love to hear your thoughts, hopefully I'll see you in the comments there 😊 Thank you for enriching the discussion! 🤗

[@ltal9570]

Hey, nice video😎 I have some thoughts about this however you might consider..... You focused your analysis on INTJ traits, but if you take a deeper look INTJ cognitive functions are already fitting both 5 and 1 traits.... Ni/Se could match the enea 5 where we drink in the information for our curiosity and need for understanding (Ni) and we use all the resources we can to prevent our energy to be drained (Se).... Moreover, the Te/Fi would match our 1 side where the INTJ is goal driven (Te) and try to align their actions to a moral vision (Fi).... Therefore, saying that INTJ 5 dont do things according to a moral code and do just to innovate is wrong as saying that INTJ 1 dont learn to satisfy their curiosity and only do things because is their moral duty is also wrong.... INTJ exists as a whole and his enneagram type is only the part of his phyche that he uses the most..... INTJ 5 usually are using Ni to much that makes the imbalance with Se bigger and lead to no action and INTJ 1 was able to integrate the middle parts of his phyche making him navigating the world easily... In conclusion.... There are no two different types of INTJ..... they are just one type of INTJ whos enneagram is formed according to their life experiences that influence the stage of development their in.... but ultimatly what you call the INTJ 1 is what the 5 aspire too but just has a harder time of having the energy to get to that level..... but because they are INTJ, those traits are there, they just need more effort.... Hope it helps

[@TrueYouSystems]

Hey! Thank you! Interesting points! I agree that going deeper with cognitive functions can help explain some nuances in MBTI behavior and some of the variations that can be seen in different INTJs. Cognitive functions and the MBTI are a great tool for what they look at in terms if personality, but they don't explain everything (neither does the Enneagram, of course). I actually made a whole video about that, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on it! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZDIl4eMjMqUpa8 I also really like how you point out that one's Enneagram type is influenced by their life experiences and and that there can be different levels of health within a personality. That being said, I think the motivations are different for 1s and 5s and to a degree that would make it hard for a 5 to strive to be like a 1. For example, a 5's fixation on needing to use reason and logic in all things would compel them not to care about finishing a book because they said they would; it would be irrational to invest time in something that doesn't matter. It's not that a 5 is less moral than a 1, but that they are less fixated on doing something based on right and wrong rather than reason and logic. 5s can have different levels of health, like any type, but that doesn't mean the better version of 5 is 1 or that all 5s wish they were more like 1s. In general, though, for any type, being healthier means that we are more flexible, less stuck in our own narrow type patterns, and more able to take on behaviors and perspectives of other types. Thank you so much for adding nuance, complexity and expertise to the discussion here! 🤗

[@ltal9570]

@@TrueYouSystems Hey, I agree with all except two things.... 1 if it is irrational to finish a book, not even a type one would finish it because if the book doesnt matter, I think no type would waste time on it because their judgment would say I shouldnt waste my time here and should use that time to focus on other thing more valuable 2 My point wasnt that the 5 aspire to be 1 as a whole.... As no type can change..... my point was that by developing there middle cognitive functions they will inevitable develop some type one traits like being more goal oriented (Te) and being more in touch with their moral compass (Fi)... however the unbalance between Ni and Se gives an INTJ the overall fixation that makes them a 5 or a 1 depending of how their life experiences impacted them early in life.... Ps Stay tune, when I watch the other video I will give you my thoughts about it...... But before that you gave me an existencial question that I would like to reflect on..... Why am I going to watch that video?..... Is it because you ask me to and it is the right thing to do because it would make me virtuous in doing so? 1 Or is it because there is a force much greater than myself that can't help it but to watch and to know what adding thoughts you have about this subject 5? Its a tricky question being an INTJ Ill give you that. After watching the video I will comment your thoughts and uncover the big mystery🫡

[@manifeature]

Could you possibly make another video discussing all the differnt types of INTJs? Many of the traits, both the strengths and weaknesses, fit me to a T, which makes me not doubt my MBTI test result at all, however this video is the first I've heard about multiple types thereof INTJs. From your explanation, I seem to be an almost even mix of the type 1 and 5 INTJ, so I'm very interested to find out where exactly on the spectrum I am, or at least the information to guide me closer to that knowledge. Thank you so much for the informative videos, these are helping me change my life, a plan that has been theorized but stagnant for a LONG time.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you so much!! So happy to hear you've found them helpful 🤗 Great idea! I'm definitely planning to make other INTJ related videos and their connections to the enneagram 😊. One thing that may be happening in your case is that you use both 5 and 1 patterns in your Tritype (a mixture of one dominant type from each center of intellgence). Hope this is a helpful start! Thank you for the great comment!🤗

[@cosmospray]

Observer : but I work a lot when my job has a real meaning for me and fits my goals. A lot. I don’t know how I manage to do that but I Still manage to procrastinating at the same time.

[@TrueYouSystems]

This is a great point! 5s can be very hard workers as well! As long as what they are doing interests them. In fact, they can become hyper-focused and almost workaholics when it comes to projects or ideas they are super interested in. When it's not interesting is when 5s find ways to automate a task or get distracted with new ideas 😊 Thanks for adding deeper understanding! 🤗

[@AmishNinjaMaster]

Enneagram 1 = INTJ-T -- and -- Enneagram 5 = INTJ-A - - You guessed correct, I'm an INTJ (Professionally typed 3x for corporate leadership positions) ... guess which INTJ/Enneagram type.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Interesting observation! That might be true more often than not. I've met both 1's and 5's in various leadership positions, as well as people of other Enneagram types who might test as INTJ, so hard to guess! I'm curious, though :) Thank you for watching and writing!

[@Dedo70]

For me, it's not either or; it's both and. I tested 100% as a 5 and a 1.

[@TrueYouSystems]

So interesting! That sometimes can happen when someone has both in their tritype. So, for example, when you use your Thinking center you might try to find certainty by knowing enough, the 5 pattern; and when you use your Instinct center you might seek a sense of control by focusing on correctness, the 1 pattern. 😊

[@maloneaqua]

I’ve always tested as an ENTJ, never doubted it but I don’t relate to the stereotypes and I do relate to a lot about INTJ’s especially being driven by my individual mission and my sense of meaning alone. I am a relentless workaholic but only in pursuit of significance, not for just success sake. I don’t care to be busy - just effective. I don’t give a shit about structure or order, just the outcomes and I don’t see myself as comparable to ESTJ (though were often put in one category).

[@TrueYouSystems]

I like how you know what's motivating you! It's a great way to get at the heart of the Enneagram and begin to see which is your primary type based on your internal drive, as opposed to your external behaviors. Thanks for sharing your thought process and experience! 🤗

[@C0nstellati0ns]

I have more of 1 than 5, but also some 5's, as well as your examples of 3 and 6. Hmm.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Interesting! This might mean that 1 is your dominant type, and that you have 3 and either 5 or 6 in your Tritype. I hope this is helpful! Thanks for sharing 🤗

[@jdxx59]

INTJ-1 - spot on!

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you!! So happy it resonated for you!🤗

[@yami_mami]

Right omg I'm such a 5 enneagram INTJ

[@TrueYouSystems]

I'm so glad this video resonated! You might enjoy my Secret Life of Enneagram Type 5's video, too -- I'm curious if you'll relate to that one as well! Thank you for watching and commenting 😊

[@yami_mami]

@TrueYouSystems I'll check it out thanks 😊

[@TrueYouSystems]

I hope you enjoy!

[@jerrysstories711]

Hmm. Your most-watched vids are the ones about INTJs and 5s. Looks like you've found an audience. 🙂 Seriously, we are misunderstood types, and I've seen so many videos about INTJs and 5s by people who *clearly* did not understand us at all, but were able to go on and on about whatever type they were. It's really refreshing to see how well you understand certain things, Ayla.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you so much, Jerry! Yes, I agree, they are often misunderstood, simplified, and stereotyped. I really love the objective, logical perspective that 5's like you are able to see the world with, and I value it so much. I have benefitted from the 5's in my life, helping me to take another look at something, to reanalyze it dispassionately, and to assess the facts. While I'll never be as good at that as 5's, I have tried to honor that wisdom they share by at least trying to understand more where they are coming form, and what they truly want and need 😊 It helps when 5's like you so generously share your insights with me, thank you so much!

[@respectabletampodcast]

I did the enneagram test as you were speaking. I seem to be a 6, with 1, 4 and 5 following.

[@TrueYouSystems]

There are definitely INTJ 6s! Tests for the Enneagram can sometimes mistype since they don't always focus on what the motivation behind the behavior is. So a great question to ask is: which type did you relate to most, was it 6, 5 or 1? And then that one will be the dominant type pattern and the others a possible wing or part of your Tritype (a mixture of one type from each center of intelligence) So for example you may be a 6 wing 5 and have 1 in your Tritype 😊 Hope this is helpful! Thanks for the great comment!

[@respectabletampodcast]

@@TrueYouSystems The test wasn’t letting me see the full results without an upgrade, so I’ll try it again. Once I can see the breakdown of the different numbers, I’ll report back. Thank you so much for the informative video!

[@JustinHeronMusic]

I always enjoy your content. Great work!

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you Justin! So appreciate it! You're so sweet 🤗

[@angelfaithparba9940]

at first i thought i was 1 then 5, then 3, then 6, then 1 and 5 again, then wondering if there was a 2 and 4

[@TrueYouSystems]

It can sometimes be really hard to find out what our dominant type is! We are also a mixture of 3 main types from each center of intelligence, often called a Tritype. But In some cases the confusion oven knowing your dominant type may happen from certain specific traits from different types you find relatable. For example 1, 5, and 3 all fixate on competency, but fixate on it in different ways. Or, for example, 1, 6, and 2 all share that they are dutiful, compliant and focused on serving others or an ideal before addressing their own needs. The main question to ask when exploring your dominant type is: What is the underlying motivation and fears that I tend to fixate on? I hope this is helpful! Thanks so much for sharing your thinking! 🤗

[@wotaj]

I've seen the subtypes describes as Assertive and Turbulent as well.

[@TrueYouSystems]

This is a great point! A/T provide helpful measures in looking at the different mbti subtypes but they don't account for this particular divide in how INTJ can manifest 🙂 That is because the mbti measures cognitive functions while the enneagram looks at internal motivations. This means you can have both an INTJ-A and an INTJ-T that are both 5s, for example. How their enneagram patterns manifest may be different externally but their internal motivation and drive remain the same😊. Thanks for adding nuance and helping to broaden our understanding of each type! 🤗

[@polyaplus]

I've known MBTI for years, for the first tiime, i actually know what J stands for, thank you

[@TrueYouSystems]

I'm so glad this was helpful! 🤗

[@Smugg]

What about INTJ 8s. I know a few people who fall into this category. More than 1 or 5

[@TrueYouSystems]

Interesting! Yes, 8s can definitely be INTJs, though from the surveys I've seen ENTJs are more common. In general, 8s tend toward extroversion, as they don't tend to experience much social inhibition and are often comfortable being at the center of groups. However, they might describe themselves as not always enjoying the company of people, so they might rate more highly on that aspect of introversion, which could push them onto the introvert side of the spectrum. Typically, they're not very extreme introverts, though, but rather closer to the middle of the spectrum. INTJ 8s and ENTJ 8s (especially for those who are close to the middle of E/I, on either side) will have a lot of similarities, and you might find my ENTJ video interesting, as that focuses largely on 8s (along with 3s). Thanks for commenting and enriching the discussion! 🤗

[@Smugg]

@@TrueYouSystems thanks for the reply! I’ll have to check out the entj video. My dad is an ENTJ so I’ll have to take notes and see how he compares. lol.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Yeah, curious to hear your thoughts! (BTW this comment got flagged for mysterious reasons that I cannot explain, so I didn't see it until now -- sorry for the late reply! 😅) I hope you found the ENTJ video helpful! 🤗

[@wiegraf9009]

I couldn't figure out where I fit in the enneagram scheme until I read about the "sexual 5" and I was like oh yeah that's me for suuuuuuuure.

[@TrueYouSystems]

You bring up a really good point!! The way our type presents is so influenced by our instinct stacking! I will be posting a video on the subtypes of 5 soon and I can't wait to hear your thoughts! Thanks for sharing! 🤗

[@wiegraf9009]

@@TrueYouSystems Thanks looking forward to it!

[@TheKacperosss]

I was in relationship with intj 5w4. It was to hard after 5 years. I think its about 5 eenagram. Its sexy at the same time so hard to deal with in daily life. Watching that video I feel like its possible for me to have marriage with intj female type 1 and not possible with 5

[@TrueYouSystems]

It's so interesting what we find attractive about different types and how that relates with our own type😊 Thank you for sharing!

[@patriotsports7745]

What if you share 1 and 5 traits? I know I'm an INTJ, but I'm so lost!

[@TrueYouSystems]

Don't worry haha!🤗 That's perfectly normal! If you are relating to both this is most likely because you use both in your Tritype! (A mixture of one dominant type from each center of intelligence). To find your main dominant type, you would want to look at the motivation and fixation you tend to focus on most😊. Asking yourself, "what do I fixate on more?" -- flaws, imperfections and needing to fix them? Or do I fixate on intrusion, and being overwhelmed by the demands of the world? I hope this is helpful! Thanks so much for sharing!!🤗

[@jerrysstories711]

Very interesting. I hope you do more of these, corelating MBTI types to Enneagram types. I'm new to studying the Enneagram, but I noticed that the split MBTI misses wrt INTJs is between members of the brain and gut triads. Are there others of these glitches in MTBI, caused by their dividing people into brain and heart types, oblivious to the gut types?

[@jerrysstories711]

Btw, I'm a 5w4 INTJ. When other people make mistakes, I make note of their level of competence, but I rarely feel any need to correct them.

[@jerrysstories711]

I'm also curious if what you said here also applies to INTPs, because that's the cusp I'm closest to on MTBI tests.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Great question! There are definitely many INTP 5's, but fewer INTP 1's, because 1's tend to overemphasize their J function. Most 5's are I and T dominant, with S/N and P/J being the variables. And the biggest difference between 5's expression tends to be between S and N (I hint at this briefly in my "Are 5's Just Nerds" video 😉).

[@TrueYouSystems]

Great explanation of how 5's often handle others' mistakes!

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you!! While there is a Head and Heart center and a Thinking and Feeling measure in MBTI, they look at somewhat different traits. For MBTI the question that T/F addresses is "How do I make a decision" and it lumps a lot of the gut-centered feelings like anger into the F function. The Enneagram asks a slightly different question, which is "What dominant emotion motivates me to develop a pattern of behavior (aka a personality)?" So, "Am I motivated by shame and a need for affirmation"? (Heart/Feeling center); "Am I motivated by anxiety and a need for certainty"? (Head/Thinking center); "Am I motivated by anger and a need for agency"? (Gut/Instinct center). This is why layering both systems can be so helpful!

[@AquilaLorelei]

Now, granted I find myself mostly an INTJ-5, I've always wondered from whence I got my sense of "aesthetics," (floral dishes are pretty, okay?) And I realized after watching this that it must be INTJ-INTJ-1

[@TrueYouSystems]

Haha they are! 🌸😊 Love that example! We can all have an eye for aesthetics, but the question in terms of the Enneagram is *why* -- is it because there's not enough beauty in the world and having it surrounding me brings up and intensifies certain feelings I'm looking for, perhaps even a memory it heightens? That can be from a 4 pattern, something 5's have access to via their wing. Or is it because there are things that *should* be in a person's home? Things that make sense to have and look as they should. This may be from a 1 pattern. These just a couple of examples! Thanks for sharing, great topic!

[@aalekhsaxena4247]

A really Big eye opener indeed

[@TrueYouSystems]

Yay thank you!!

[@anneh851]

(intj) i must be a 5, because the social expectations/gender roles are, to be direct, ridiculous. besides, why open another bottle of expensive wine because some wine salesperson says it tastes better with food "x" than the bottle that was opened last night for food "y"? why indeed? why waste money unnecessarily? after 2 glasses, no one can tell them apart anyways?🤣

[@TrueYouSystems]

Haha! These are great examples! Thank you for sharing!

[@sunnybhai1904]

This explains the cognitive dissonance I’ve been having with two very different INTJs I know.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Yay! I'm so glad this was helpful! Thanks for sharing! 🤗

[@areials5178]

Can you be both 1 and 5 at the same time cause I have both traits described for each with a slight tendency towards one then the other in certain situations.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Great question! It's possible that you have both 1 and 5 in your Tritype, which is your main type from each of the three Centers of Intelligence (Head, Heart, and Gut/Instinct). So, perhaps your Tritype is 1, 5, and either 2, 3, or 4. Thanks for sharing your experience and perspective! 🤗

[@BSingh-on4qr]

I'm INTJ 1w9 164

[@TrueYouSystems]

Nice! Great to hear from some 1s too! Thanks for sharing! I have videos on 6 and 4 as well that you may find interesting 😊

[@pat1x179]

Before watching this video I want to say upfront (yes I'm an INTJ so I already criticise this video without having it watched) that there are 4 Types of INTJ, you have 4 different animal types by having 4 possibilities of Dominant functions. Ni Te Fi Se is the function stack you can be double observer dom, double decider, decider-observer, observer-decider. An Ni Te INTJ is "blast" for example and an Ni Fi INTJ (tend do be emotional INTJ's, can be misstaken for INFJ's even though they are different) is "sleep". search objective personality for more

[@TrueYouSystems]

Interesting thoughts! I'm curious to hear your ideas after watching the video😊 Thanks for sharing and expanding the conversation!🤗

[@Oldladies_o7]

INTJ 4w5 not 5w4 here. Giving big Hamlet energy.

[@TrueYouSystems]

"This above all: to thine own self be true" Interesting! It's very rare to be an INTJ 4😊 Thank you for sharing and adding nuance to our understanding! 🤗

[@farfaraway4285]

This sounds like the assertive & turbulent INTJ types. INTJ-A and INTJ-T.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Interesting point! In some cases that might be what is occurring but there are both INTJ- T/A 5s as well as INTJ T/A 1s. They just manifest differently in external behaviors 😊. Thanks for contributing and adding more dimensions! 🤗

[@stephenquark2900]

15.00 for a bottle of wine? Why not a box of wine?

[@TrueYouSystems]

Haha! A very practical solution! 😆🤗

[@fringetina44]

As an INTJ5, "I am interested in learning everything I can. I am NOT interested in everything I learn."

[@TrueYouSystems]

Interesting distinction! Thanks for sharing!

[@DarkVeghetta]

It can get even more complicated. I'm an INTJ, however, I'm also an ambivert and that I is only about 9%. This means that, under the right circumstances, I could sway ENTJ with everything that implies.

[@TrueYouSystems]

And more interesting! 😄I'm really glad you brought up percentages with MBTI! It's such a great reminder that we are a mixture of these cognitive traits in varying degrees and therefore how each trait manifests will vary based on the percentages. Thanks so much for adding more layers to the conversation! 🤗

[@DarkVeghetta]

@@TrueYouSystems Indeed. I once took the MBTI test a few times in the same day but changed some answers that I wasn't fully committed to and could swing either way depending on both circumstances and the interpretation of said question - I think this applied to 4 questions, in total (all of them seemed to affect the I/E axis, as NTJ was always at 33% each). If I recall correctly (this was over a decade ago), three out of four times I got INTJ, but one time I got ENTJ.

[@davidmeffe715]

Huh, might explain why I've been so confused by my MBTI because I always felt torn between INTJ and INFJ in certain ways. Whenever the INTJ 5 traits are mentioned I always feel like it's so alien to myself that I couldn't be an INTJ so its why I often return to thinking my MBTI is INFJ, but that also seems incorrect because I seem more focus on logical consensus and not feeling consensus among peers. Mayhaps I am an INTJ1 because many of those traits mentioned as being INTJ1 seem a slightly better fit.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Interesting thoughts! A helpful question to ask when looking at the enneagram is which types' motivations and fears do you relate to most, since there's a few enneagram types that can be INTJs (1s and 5s are just the most common) or INFJs for that matter. Hope this is helpful! Thanks for the comment!

[@m-b0t]

Can you do ENFP that's what i got and I'm definitely a enneagram type 9

[@TrueYouSystems]

Yes! ENFP would be a great one to do! Thanks for the suggestion!

[@TLS2SN]

Hi, could you do this with ENTP's? I really appreciate it if you could. - INTJ 8w9

[@TrueYouSystems]

Great idea! I'd love to! I'll be doing an ENTJ video soon that you may find interesting 😊. Thanks for the suggestion!

[@LynneLaRochelle]

So there’s the lazy intj and the pushy intj

[@TrueYouSystems]

Haha that's one way to look at it😆 You make a good point: Each Enneagram type has different weaknesses, as well as different strengths. For 5s, I'd say it's not so much laziness, but more like stinginess with time -- they'll gladly work hard on their own project that they're interested in, but will avoid spending time on someone else's. 1s are pushy in some ways but not others -- they are not necessarily demanding about their own wants and needs, but they can be quite forceful when it comes to questions of right and wrong (which could be on matters as small as grammar or parking). But both types also have amazing strengths and gifts! I'll be doing more on that specifically, but if you're interested in 1s you might check out my "Perfectionist" video, and I have several videos about 5s you might enjoy. Thank you for enriching the discussion! 🤗

[@moihell]

Need the same but with infj... ❤

[@TrueYouSystems]

That's a great idea! I'd love to do all of the MBTI types eventually. For now, you might be interested in my INFP video, where there is a lot of overlap with INFJ (both are common MBTI types for Enneagram Type 4s). Thank you for watching and commenting! 🤗

[@zerfrl]

i think im an intj 5 but some traits in intj 1 i do relate to but yea thanks for the video

[@TrueYouSystems]

Good point! We often draw on a few other types' traits but still have one that is the dominant motivation and pattern. Thanks for sharing!

[@Wolldog3]

The most annoying thing about being an INTJ, is people pretending to be this type because they think "The Mastermind" sounds cool. When in reality we share a lot of similarities to the symptoms of autism. I hate any communication outside of text, always wanted a best friend but never found one, conversation is taken literally, obsessed with knowledge but it's usually useless knowledge like how amazing it is that an electric car can accelerate instantaneously with the second you hit the pedal because it doesn't require a combustion ignition sequence (I'm a correctional officer, and I don't have an electric car), I can break things down to the most simplistic components to find out any possible angle for it's uses but can't remember the name of the person who just introduced themselves. I can have a conversation with someone but only after my mind creates an internal algorithm that fits the person I'm engaging with. Also it's involuntary. It's sit quiet for a few minutes listening, then out of nowhere it's like I passed the charisma check. But I have to be interested in talking to the person or it stays in the quiet step or I just up and leave. If it's a conversation with a religious zealot who would not change their mind no matter how much logic you throw, I just don't bother. (Unless I find it amusing, then I just ask obvious logical fallacies that are just difficult enough for the person to seriously believe that I want an opinion) sorry for ranting. I do love the key things that you pointed out. I definitely feel like a 5 versus a 1. I honestly didn't know that there were other differences outside of turbulent. But this explains why you can have two INTJ in the room but get a very different interaction from both. I'm very 'want to change the world because I see all the problems', but also that's entirely too much work and I don't have the energy for that or the patience for people who don't understand critical thinking or applying it to basic situations. Anyway, thank you for this. 😊

[@TrueYouSystems]

This is a great description of type 5 with so many good examples I love it!! I go into some of these ideas in my Secret Life of 5s video that you may find interesting 🙂 just like there are differences between two intjs in a room, there's also variation among 5s based on their subtypes! I'll be posting a video on that soon and I'm excited to hear your thoughts!! Thanks for sharing!🤗

[@cosmicappreviews]

But I finally can accept the diagnose of intj type 5. Truly both puzzle pieces are needed to get the left brain click idk.

[@TrueYouSystems]

And it's a great type to be!🤗 Both systems can be pretty complicated, but like you said, once you get all the elements to connect it can be very eye opening. And, of course, interesting to study, especially as a 5! Thanks so much for sharing and adding to the discussion!🤗

[@RosaFay222]

Lol im an intj 8w7. Does that mean there are more types than just 1 and 5?

[@TrueYouSystems]

Absolutely! You can have an enneagram 8 with almost any mbti (though some are more likely) this is because Mbti measures cognitive functions while the enneagram looks at internal motivations. So you can have the same cognitive functions with completely different enneagram motivations and vise versa😊. 8s tend towards E but there are some that score I as well. You may enjoy my ENTJ video as it goes into 8s more😊. Hope this is helpful! Thank you for sharing and helping to deepen our understanding!🤗

[@hannahyost3721]

I’m an INTJ enneagram 8.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Cool! There are lots of less common ways that Enneagram and MBTI types can combine. 8's tend to get an "E" on MBTI tests because they tend not to have social anxiety -- interactions with people are one of the many things that 8's are not fearful of! So, while they often describe not liking or wanting to spend time with people, they don't often describe anxiety around social interactions, which is one of the elements of introversion. Because of this, 8's can get an "I" on the MBTI test (as in INTJ), but it tends to be a less extreme "I", closer to the 50% mark. Thanks for sharing!

[@jerrysstories711]

That's an unusual pairing. I'm an INTJ 5, but of course in integration 5's take on the traits of a healthy 8, which really rings true in my life.

[@ojyochan]

Haha! Me and my husband are both intj, but it was sus because of our differences. This video made it clear I'm the 5 and he's a 1 😅

[@TrueYouSystems]

Haha I'm glad it was illuminating! I love how we can understand so much more when we layer different systems together 🤯 Thank you for the comment! 😊

[@amber8921]

Wow, I always thought I was an enneagram 5, because I can relate to it well, but now thanks to this video I am starting to question my type! I could relate to both enneagram 1 and 5 but enneagram 1 is often described as extremely organised in the physical world, and I could not really relate to that. I also could not relate to enneagram 5 because I am less reclusive than the typical 5.

[@TrueYouSystems]

I'm glad this video could start to shine light on the details and differences of each type! It can be hard to determine what our dominate type is, especially when they share similar traits. 1, 5 and 3 are all in the Competency Triad, sharing a need to be seen as capable, so they definitely share some things in common, at least on the surface (though the underlying motivation of each is really different!). It's great to stay curious about what drives us and continue learning and questioning! Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts!!

[@arnevandeperre6931]

Literally the same here in every way :)

[@timl8302]

Could one of them just be a Sigma too? I'm a #5. Plus Sigma & Libra.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Interesting thought! I think either 1 or 5 could fit the Sigma archetype, depending on the individual in question. It seems like one of features of Sigma is low social (SO) stacking compared to SP and SX. For a full explanation of what all that means, you might check out my video on the 3 types of INTJ 5, where I go into some depth on instinct stacking (I'd love to hear your thoughts!). More generally, regarding Sigma, Alpha, Beta, etc., these are each broad categories and they don't cleanly line up with Enneagram (or MBTI) types, so you could have Sigmas who are 5, 4, 1, etc., for example, and 5s who are Sigma, Beta, Gamma, etc. I love that you're bringing another lens to look at people through, great to have your contribution to the discussion here! Thank you! 🤗

[@timl8302]

@@TrueYouSystems Thank you very much! There are videos on youtube on INTJ| Sigmas. But, I figure it out because I knew I was a INTJ. long before I heard about Sigma. Then, I just put 2+2 together. Alpha will have 'E' Traits. Possibly Beta. But, betas don't have self awareness & boundaries. Also, I doubt most of them are strategic thinkers. It's one of my traits. Looking at thing in a different light. I will look at the videos later it's getting late here.

[@timl8302]

@@TrueYouSystems Part two. I just watched a video that said "All sigmas have INTJ traits. But, not all INTJs are Sigmas." /// I haven't read into stacking. Just many abstracts & websites on traits of the MB types (I'm just a #5.LOL) So it new to me. I will watch the video.

[@TrueYouSystems]

So many layers! See you down the rabbit hole 😁

[@timl8302]

@@TrueYouSystems Part 3. I watched it. Great video!! Very informative. Thanks. Great video. Always a lifetime learner. On My OP I was just using the two types in general. Part of SO is obsolete. Google replaced him/her. Yeah, I'm p&ssed about. Kinda put me out of the job of the know it all. I'm not sure about social stacking except concerning a meritocracy within a group. The video was a learning experience. But, I see things in systems. Every cog & how they relate to the overall from the janitors to the CEO. Even in in seen & unseen world of global politics. More of a pattern analysis.... As a reciprocate info. Here is a word I found out a week or so ago. 'Ambivert'. It is an overlap between Introvert & Extrovert. If you knew about it, no problem.

[@randyandretti]

Thanks. I’m definitely a 1. Oh and 6. 👽

[@TrueYouSystems]

Nice!😄🤗 Thanks for sharing!

[@krisssantos23]

Im a intj-a 5 wing 4

[@TrueYouSystems]

Cool! My next video will be about 5w4's and 4w5's, so if you've subscribed you'll see it soon :) Thanks for sharing!

[@shemac1482]

Im an INTJ 5w4 so fate just likes to torture me 😂😂😢

[@TrueYouSystems]

Aww! I love INTJ 5w4 though! 🤗

[@CRlifeisgood]

I am 8w9

[@TrueYouSystems]

Cool! I love 8's 😊

[@geomettrix3875]

I am an INTJ but also an 8... lol and I have similarities with both 5 and 1, but I'm definitely an 8

[@TrueYouSystems]

Interesting! Yes, there are definitely 8's who are INTJs, though ENTJ is more common. My most recent video is all about ENTJs, focusing on 8's and 3's -- I'm curious to know what you relate to in that video, too! Thanks for the comment! 😊

[@mennaabdo6473]

Sad u didn't talk about intj en8

[@TrueYouSystems]

I'm glad you brought that up! INTJs can also be 8s, but in general 8s lean towards extroversion, so ENTJ 8s are more common. You may find that you resonate with my ENTJ video, since that focuses largely on 8s (along with 3s), especially if your E/I is close to the middle. I'd love to hear what you think of it! 😊 Thanks for commenting and enriching the discussion here! 🤗

[@mennaabdo6473]

@@TrueYouSystems Yeah I'm some kinda ambivert ENTJ 8 doesn't reasonate with me though, cuz it discribes more of how the order of entj functions shown up when en8 is exsisted Not in my intj functions order U r welcomed

[@TrueYouSystems]

Interesting thoughts, I appreciate you sharing your experience 😊 Thank you! 🤗

[@Kingflores150]

ohhh wow iam #1 then.. lol chat gpt does my work lol... but just to make goals more attainable

[@TrueYouSystems]

It's a great tool! And depending how it's used can say a lot about our types 🙂 Thanks for the comment!

[@DanielByers-qf9qi]

I have known for decades that I score in MBTI as INTJ (100% NT). I ignored the Enneagram paradigm until recently (because of Abbie Emmons, who recommends its use by authors). I concluded I was "1" in very short order. Most of this presentation confirms that intuition. I do have "5" traits, but they are more secondary and sporadic. Overall, I would say this analysis is above 90% in accuracy.

[@TrueYouSystems]

Thank you so much! Very high praise, indeed! (Also, I love the idea of using the Enneagram in writing fiction -- I'm checking out her video). Re non-dominant traits, "secondary and sporadic" is well put 👌

[@jerrysstories711]

Improving my writing is always what got me studying the Enneagram. How has it gone for you so far?