Is Europe turning Muslim?

[@IntoEurope]

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[@bjorntorlarsson]

I'm downloading your videos with interesting headlines now, before your channel is erased. "Being objective" is what Western censorship hates the most! Thanks for your work for as long as it lasted!

[@bestdrip3377]

22:41 40% of Brussels population is Muslim? 😂 I generally agree with your take but you’re making yourself look so scientific and pragmatic with these takes when in fact it’s clear what you’re trying to push. As I stated in my other comment, only 5% of the Belgian population is Muslim and it is estimated that 40% of those Muslims live in Brussels. That’s a huge difference from what you state in the video and now I’m unsure if I can trust the rest.

[@PMMagro]

@@bestdrip3377 Are you surprised?

[@IntoEurope]

​@@bestdrip3377 yup, I make mistakes, made a comment about it! Thanks for pointing it out :)

[@IsomerSoma]

The gaza war has lead to great escalation of all the problems and divides you have shown here and not measured fully yet. And it has some radical effects one may not have anticipated. It has made a rather large numbers of muslims show their radicalism or radicalized them in the first place - especially antisemitism. This now in germany lead to the center and even parts of the left to develop actual enfringement, fear and rejection of islam in europe as nothing is as unappetizing as antisemitism to germans (literally).

[@sheffield9019]

Europe is cooked. Why muslims in muslim countries are much more western than in western countries😭

[@internetual7350]

Because the ones who want their countries to stop being backward theocratic hellholes, stay and fight, the ones losing that battle, go to our countries.

[@jonathancastro8487]

FRRR I don't get it

[@jezusbloodie]

If talking about the guestworkers, it was because it wasn't those that could "afford to westernize" -so to say- that needed to move for work. The migrants came in larger partd from more conservative rural regions, rather then from the wealthier and more progresive urban regions. But it's a country by country basis. Some muslim countries became more progressive while the disporia didn't, and oyher countried visa versa. I think, overall and in general, there's a bit of selection bias in thinking that arab countries are less fundamentalist than muslims from here on europe. Not saying that it doesn't happen tho

[@54032Zepol]

Ha! 😂😆 Muslim progressive??! Hahaha! 🤣

[@potts995]

In my opinion, it’s partly because Muslims in “Muslim countries” tend to perceive themselves as fairly well off financially and don’t have to double down on a “Muslim” identity to fit into society. Western Muslims try to compensate for perceived failure to live up to religious ideals due to “modernity” and “secularism.”

[@hawk0485]

It is very difficult to navigate this subject while staying neutral. I think the majority of people are not racist and wish for muslims in Europe to be happy and successful but also feel there is a real problem with Islam in Europe and they don't know how to put these two things together. Thank you for not being a coward and having the courage to make this video. It shows reacl character on your part.

[@Omer1996E.C]

I appreciate Europeans who oppose and criticise us, but aren't hateful or discriminatory towards us. Media is radicalising people, which further makes any compromise harder and integration as well.

[@inteallsviktigt]

The issue is compromise with religious values aren’t something we should do

[@jasonhaven7170]

@@NiloNova no

[@alfrredd]

@@NiloNova Integration or Expulsion. No more options.

[@NiloNova]

@@alfrredd but also need to deal with those who refuse to.

[@PentangleYT]

Famous words of UAE's Highness Sheikh Abdullah Bin Zayed Al Nahyan in 2017 :: "There will come a day that we will see far more radical extremists and terrorists coming out of Europe because of lack of decision-making, trying to be politically correct or assuming that they know the Middle East, they know Islam and they know the others far better than we do. And I am sorry but that's pure ignorance." It seems he was correct about European politicians.

[@Sfsew]

i wish he had actually justified his assumption. with ANYTHING. but he didnt. kinda lazy.

[@TheSam661]

And as if his convictions are the reality. Remember He is an actual monarch who wants to stay a monarch, of course he is going to have that position.

[@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986]

I don’t know what being a monarch has to do with his statement about extremists?

[@MarketsDriveTheWorld]

​@@TheSam661being a monarch in a Muslim country he should probably say the opposite to stay in power, not saying he s necessarily right but saying that doesn't really help him.

[@maybenations]

It sounds like he was chiding European Muslims, and how meekly they are treated to me.

[@eurobonapartiste]

Passing blasphemy laws would be the end of enlightened European societies.

[@CjqNslXUcM]

Lots of European countries still have them. You can go to jail for up to 2 years in Poland.

[@BlueGamingRage]

Europe has always had blasphemy laws. There are things that are illegal to say in every European country

[@Photosounder]

And that's a good thing.

[@everydaylife5641]

I agree, although I don’t know what you mean by „enlightened“ sounds like rhetoric only someone with lack of self reflection would use.

[@andrzejnadgirl2029]

Denmark reintroduced it after Muslim riots in their country. Europe is obviously already desecularazing. It's not big as of yet and I wouldn't say there gonna be some huge turn on it but Europe is obviously less secular nowadays than 20 years ago and this trend will definitely continue to avoid civil turmoils.

[@TheMirohesham]

Cool thumbnail there. It says “Into Europe man is a funny dude” in Arabic. Edit: in all seriousness, it says something to the effect of “this is an Arabic text to make for a cool thumbnail.” But you people fell for my pro-Into Europe propaganda.

[@IntoEurope]

Hehehe this made me chuckle

[@kazinaher7808]

oh

[@kazinaher7808]

Its very funny these right wing people want the oil and gas from Muslims but they don't want Muslims to migrate lol. If muslims are vio%lent then their natural resources and minerals are vio%lent too which should not go to the west. (West is going to be fine withoit oils and gas,Roman empire ran without them 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓 get it?)

[@yudhafpiano]

Decent video bro, but I'm sorry you (channel owner) are falling right into the "zero sum game" playing field. We all know your narrative ends with the result of putting down one side and uplifting the other side and that could result in world war 3. Many western country in the world are profiting by mass producing weapon and much of those were sold in the proxy country that has conflicts in the middle of muslim region, and when the refugees of the conflicted muslim region immigrate to western country, they made an anti immigration policy. Now I have a suggestion of solution, let's made a policy to ban any export of weapon to any country that has any conflict / potential conflict / recent history of conflict with muslim country, what is your opinion?

[@healthblog3963]

great video AI Summary: 6:32 French Statistic 2023 62% muslim agreed french law are above sharia law 43% muslim age 15-24 agreed french law are above sharia law 6:42 89% muslim condemn the assasination of Dominique Bernard eventough he did the blasphemy against Islam (Google it) 6:49 92% muslim in school condemn the assasination of Dominique Bernard eventough he did the blasphemy against Islam (Google it) 31% muslim in school do not condemn the assasination of Dominique Bernard eventough he did the blasphemy against Islam (Google it) This statistic doesn't make sense 7:14 Germany statistic 2022 33% Muslim agreed that law is above Quran 65% Muslim do not agree the violence for blasphemy 82% Muslim do not agree that violence justified if it advance Islam 63.5% Muslim do not want sharia law 54% Muslim do not want theocratic Government 7:31 UK statistic British Muslim all Gender age education and nativity do not desire in ending Cristianity's traditional role by removing the church of England as the established church of the nation 7:44 Hamburg Around 1,000 people joined Saturday's rally, which was organized by associations including "Kulterbrücke" (Cultural Bridge) and "Säkularer Islam" (Secular Islam). The Saturday's pro-democracy rally was peaceful. Dutch leader of anti-Muslim organisation Pegida sets Koran on fire May 2024. Wagensveld wore a shirt that read "Islam is no better than Nazism". 8:07 UK Terrorism statistic From 1970 to 1979, From 1981 to 1983, From 1989 to 1994, From 1997 to 2003, From 2006 to 2011 and 2013 there is almost no cases of Islam inspired/Jihadist terrorism. There is rise in terrorism exactly one year after falsely claimed 2003 West country vs Iraq war. 8:11 Europol Terrorist arrest Rise in terrorism prior to US Iran tension and sanction 2 years before 8:38 Comparing Muslim Youth in Belgium, England, Germany, the Netherlands, and Sweden None of the muslim youth say that national identity is not important 9:41 - 10:50 1 minute 9 second of west reject Islam argument 10:51 - 18:55 8 minute 4 second of Islam reject west argument 19:05 Speaker in the video hope Islam to be another Christian, because Islam is not modern, not secular, not humanist, and not enlightened 19:45 Speaker do not want Muslim to have any strategy or future outside of Islamic world 19:50 Speaker do not want Muslim to safeguard any identity, spirituality, morality, and distinguishibility 20:01 Speaker said Islam in Europe has been watered with copious amount of petrodollar and has taken roots 20:05 Speaker do not want Saudi Arabia to spend any money to promote Islam to the world; financing school, mosque, and cultural center. Speaker said this would put Russia to shame 20:25 Speaker do not want European Union to have any ties with Turkiye and do not want any report about Islamophobia 20:36 Speaker told the existence of dangerous Islamic Brotherhood then jump to a French book Le Frérisme et ses réseaux by Florence Bergeaud-Blackler that there is brotherhood/brotherism in Muslim so he conclude that all Muslim in Europe is Islamic Brotherhood 22:07 Speaker do not want any mosque in Europe 22:12 Foreign Minister and ÖVP leader Sebastian Kurz presented the research "Rolle der Moschee im Integrationsprozess" report that there should be no general suspicion against Muslims or mosques. "But we must not look away when there are religious communities that do not comply with the Islamic law." 22:26 Speaker do not want any Sharia or anything Islamic at all to be taught in mosque which is Islamic house of prayer 22:39 Speaker said Brussels Muslim is 40% of population (no accountable source of information on this) 22:57 Speaker do not want any minority media or Islam content on tiktok 23:00 Speaker do not want anything halal 23:03 Speaker shows Tiktok content, expressing speaker's love of anything haram 23:10 - 27:42 European government policy 27:49 Speaker wants significant reaction like In India such as reviving certain religion superiority, destroying mosque, ethnic backlash/tension, destroying community 28:00 Speaker wants a step further in destroying mosque, severe mass detention, and prohibition on the right to be born 28:27 Singapore coexistence policy 30:40 Speaker said Muslim is against women right 31:04 Speaker said Muslim focus on minority right and foreign policy and compromising the rest 35:23 intellectual justification to avoid critics

[@marcussver620]

Honestly, one thing I don’t get about European liberals is why they support those ☪️ people who oppose liberal values and gay rights, while it's mostly conservatives who seem willing to push back against that.

[@MartinNew14]

true

[@jasonhaven7170]

Because the right wants to remove their rights

[@furkan3945]

You think it is fair to judge a country because it has not yet made the societal advances that other countries have? The USA is the good guy in ww2 and yet they had insane segregation back then and more elaborate structural racism. What is not can still be. And people are fighting for it. But treating them like outgroups only motivates them more to stick to traditional believes, even more than in the countries that they are originally from

[@cowboybeboop9420]

It`s because they are short sighted and hungry for power. They see the Muslim vote as an easy way to victory. They don`t care that in the long run their values will die out.

[@Carthodon]

Its because they only express opinions which won't ruin their careers or their social life. This is part of that.

[@TheMalayLinguist]

It is not controversial for non-muslim countries to want to remain non-muslim.

[@Kliscian]

it also should not be controversial for europe to want to be european and not multicultural

[@LibertarianLeninistRants]

@@Kliscian How can "european" be anything else than multicultural? Europe contains multiple culture, there is not one homogenous european culture, there are heterogenous european cultures.

[@Kliscian]

@@LibertarianLeninistRants yes and i mean that every european country should have its own culture instead of some melting pot as in americas

[@LibertarianLeninistRants]

@@Kliscian ah okay, so multicultural europe but monocultural countries in european - thats your ideal?

[@Kliscian]

@@LibertarianLeninistRants yes

[@ShawayFH]

As a Muslim living in Muslim-majority Indonesia, it's very much funny how Islam in Europe is filled to the brim with many radical salafists that advocate for Sharia as criminal law. Indonesia is not perfect, but moderate Islam here has succeeded significantly in comparison to those within the EU as we have major organizations promoting this through debate and dialogue against these radical aspects (NU, Muhammadiyah). the Salafist doctrine of a conservative approach of Al-Wala' wal-Bara' (loyalty and disavowal) has been one the key factors that make them segregate themselves from any country in which their doctrine is not native, including Indonesia. Singapore's approach into regulating Islam is what I believe fits most towards the EU, diversity of moderatism in the form of centralization by hiring Islamic experts that is in touch with the broader community, promoting moderatism while at the same time beneficial for both the Muslims and the overall society. I also think it's funny that Islamists group up with left-wing parties within Europe solely because of the Palestinian issue, even though the vast majority agree with right-leaning policies. This issue really is about human rights, and within Indonesia whether it is left, right or center, whether Muslim or not, we advocate for a square deal. Then again, I personally don't have a stake here, and I really wish the best for my European friends.

[@julius43461]

Didn't Indonesia ban extramarital sex recently? Some countries may be a bit less radical, but they are all a ticking time bomb and extremely oppressive.

[@ShawayFH]

​​​​@@julius43461 the law that you're referring to is not that simple, really. It's not even a ban and those in favor if this law include non-Muslims as well. If you read into the law, people who can report the cases are those who are married and direct family members, which is extremely unlikely to be enforced. Although I disagree with the law, comparing it with a full-size Sharia state it's still a far way from whatever Saudi Arabia is doing haha. Personally speaking, search up regarding Islam so you can learn more regarding why what you most see as oppressive may actually be a misperception. All love brother.

[@PASTRAMIKick]

turkish islam was also moderate before erdogan, it's the arab islam that makes people fundamentalist

[@julius43461]

@@PASTRAMIKick Yes, but when the foundation is rotten it is always going to be a ticking time bomb. The fact that 🦃 is where it is today tells you all you need to know.

[@MissEldira]

And how long ago since it was a secular country. What happened to the none muslim politicans. What happens to the minorities. It is slowly going where every country like it goes. And maybe not today and maybe not tomorrow but eventually they will have a genocide just like all similar countries. Cause it is in the texts.

[@amednbl]

As an Italian atheist of Pakistani origins, I've seen how things have changed. My dad has lived in Europe for over 30 years and isn’t very religious, but even he finds it shocking that the newer generation of European Muslims is more religious and extreme than their parents and grandparents. The rise of ghettos and the lack of integration efforts by governments are concerning. We need better understanding and policies to help integrate these communities or else it will get worse in the future. Plus, the foreign funding coming into mosques, spreading Wahhabi ideology needs to be stopped, this is a big issue. This funding promotes extremism among European Muslim youth. To tackle this, we need stronger community programs to foster integration, transparent funding for mosques, a focus on education promoting critical thinking, and engagement with moderate Muslim leaders. As a European citizen, I personally wish the best for our continent, but it’s really heartbreaking that even people like me born and raised in Europe who are well educated & atheists have to face the consequences of their actions.

[@kkunknownkk]

"Well educated & atheist" That made laugh.

[@adamelghalmi9771]

"well educated & athiests" i giggled lol

[@mohammedmahathir7536]

​@@kkunknownkk a person's education is irrespective of his religion. U can see it in the greatest scientists of our time. They were mostly atheists yet educated at higher level

[@jlowex2013]

if you in Europe don't wake up and organize you will lose the land of your ancestors. so terrified of being called racist to ignore your reality and enforce change as a populous.. sad.

[@MarketsDriveTheWorld]

​@@kkunknownkkthe overwhelming majority of educated people are atheist... The majority of Nobel prices and the majority of science nobels.....

[@IntoEurope]

Some small corrections: 22:41 - I say that 40% of Brussels population is muslim, that number is actually 20% (40% is the share of Belgian Muslims living in Brussels)

[@juan-ko5hz]

real number is likely 60%

[@weamibrahim2146]

Oh yeah I was like no way

[@MarcoSteiner-n5j]

In 2016 it was 23% so today it is probably 30%

[@dontlaughtoomuch11]

@@juan-ko5hz Dude stop trolling, as someone who regularly visits the city, I would say it's around 25-30% in total for Brussels.

[@leoym1803]

@@dontlaughtoomuch11 It's 80% of the people you see on the street because the rest of the population is working :)

[@hikashia.halfiah3582]

oh no, europe is turning into lebanon 2.0

[@tengemrxx1928]

That's mean nothing

[@Hadasengel]

Turned* lol, you guys are f'd 😂

[@lucasjames7524]

The survey results early in the video are frightening, to say the least. Europe needs to be very clear-eyed and decisive about the threat to the rule of law and to their Western culture that these sentiments pose. Yikes.

[@Inzersdorf93]

The problem is that these are only three studies. No one is funding properly big studies, it's always these breadcrumbs.

[@e.d9993]

The surveys don't show or tell us the community would remain always religious as the next generation that will come will probably be less religious while at the same time holding to their religion or faith.

[@cwpv2477]

@@Inzersdorf93 history is a good statistical basis in itself as well. History shows that spain was enslaved for 600 years by caliphates. East Rome was destroyed by the ottomans. Europeans were second class citizens in bulgaria, spain, greece, egypt (which was back then heavily greek and roman). One of the main goals of islam is to proof it is the one abrahamic religion. Conquest usually was the tool historically. It is a huge failure of eu immigration that many people moving there do not consider themselves european at all.

[@deounivers7663]

@@e.d9993 Well there is only data as far as 3rd gen muslims, which was pointed out as the most radical one to date. We don't really have data on how other religions looked when they came here, but for a democratic union it is troubling that half of young muslim adults think Sharia should be over whatever country they are in

[@e.d9993]

@@deounivers7663 Most of those who were asked about the Sharia question don't know it fully as what the questionnaire meant by that as most Islamic countries apply sharia only on family matters and sometimes in financial matters.

[@orderofazarath7609]

EU-Wide if the organisation/mosque/whatever is advocating for Sharia Law it should be banned. Seems to be an easy non-brainer and I'm baffled it isn't the case yet.

[@cwpv2477]

ye its literally a human rights disregarding cult org per definition.

[@54032Zepol]

Nah that's right wing hate speech! Embrace Islam! Chose sharia law it is the progressive way forward! And Europe isn't racist or conservative, right??!!

[@wirelessbluestone5983]

Sharia is a vague term that covers things from avoiding eating pork and drinking alcohol to stoning for adultery. People need context as to what “advocacy for sharia” is

[@LamDaSky]

No respectable mosque or Imam would advocate for what you're thinking of (i.e. imposing islamic laws on a whole nation). This is very unislamic, the islamic/sharia ruling for living in a non-muslim nation is to integrate as much as possible without sacrificing your faith (don't drink alcohol, go to local religious temples, etc...) Imposing Islam on anyone is literally commanded against in the Quran (2:256), and is strictly prohibited. Unfortunately there are muslims who themselves don't even understand this.

[@Reixuria]

i think most people who advocate for it have little idea what it fully entails tbh

[@dorianodet8064]

Islamophobia definition is biaised. There is no "unfounded hostility toward Islam". There are tones of historical and worldwide example of the result of political Islam. Therefor its not unfounded

[@univalent8167]

I do agree that there are facts and good reasons for caution with Islam (as is with every religion and ideology) but I believe that right wing parties are often Islamophobic because they DO NOT USE facts and good reasoning in their argumentation. Instead they revert to national populism. Would they be against Islam on the basis of for example Danish statistics on different backgrounds of migrants and similar studies then that would not be islamophobia IMAO.

[@pool_here]

Under this argument, all hatred is justified

[@Omer1996E.C]

Under this argument, secularism is the bloodiest ideology ever, since it caused all these atrocities in China, USSR, ww2, cold war, etc...

[@mhx6437]

Was Hitler's hatred of Jews not unfounded too then?

[@andrzejnadgirl2029]

I don't even have problem with islamohobia definition quite honestly but what is rarely spoken is opposite: islamophilia which is also very real concept that is very much present in left of political spectrum. This single word explains why left will criticize patriarchy but also be fine with radically patriarchal Muslims and many other contradictions. Islamophobia should be always discussed alongside islamophilia as those concepts are related and islamophilies will stretch definitions of islamophobia but if general public would just call islamophlies for their bias discussions around those topics would be much simpler.

[@leobat7007]

We're living through the self-destruction of liberal democracy and this is equal part sad, scary, and fascinating.

[@golagiswatchingyou2966]

It's great, liberal democracy is the poison that led us here.

[@SaadBinAlamgir3345]

Fall of Rome 2.0

[@nailil5722]

We are at the classic point where the tolerant tolerate the intolerant to the limits of tolerance itself, with increasingly diminishing returns for society and increased decadence

[@Pepe-rm6ip]

this is israeli propaganda nonsense

[@ipsumquaerere6927]

Facists hate democracies, so it's no suprise that they work so hard to undermine it at every turn. It's just sad that so many are indiffrent to it until it's to late.

[@Huminahumina465]

At least so far, seems really unlikely Islam’ll ever fit in with Europe. Especially with them becoming more radical and islamic as you say in the start

[@hydoffdhagaweyne1037]

LOL, as a Muslim, I find it funny how Europeans believe they can coexist with Muslims

[@toddberkely6791]

​@@hydoffdhagaweyne1037 you live in europe?

[@cwpv2477]

yup and eu nations literally based on christian values and the ottoman empire wanted to conquer europe until 200-300 years ago lmao

[@toddberkely6791]

@@hydoffdhagaweyne1037 you live in europe tho?

[@CjqNslXUcM]

@@hydoffdhagaweyne1037 Do you live in Europe? Are you worried about the changing political climate? Do you adhere to sharia and do you place it above national law?

[@rom1783-c1y]

As a Middle Eastern progressive atheist currently living in the ME, I'm very disappointed in what Europe is doing and how it is dealing with Islam. People do not understand how easy it is for foreign countries (and sometimes a single influential religious scholar) to control the Muslim population. A single fatwa by an islamic jurist is enough to put thousands if not millions on the streets to get what they want (it happened in the UK and many other EU countries before), sometimes by force. Right now they might want equality and I don't deny that there are many respectful, kind, and sometimes fairly progressive Muslims who try to be moderate, but as the rate of Muslims entering Europe increases and more radicals enter Europe (Europe tends to accept the more radical Muslims since they live in war-torn/unstable areas, which is why many Muslims in Europe are sometimes more religious than the average Muslim in their home country) the general Muslim community might be encouraged or pressured to become more extreme. For example, I know Muslim women who don't wear/ don't want to wear the hijab themselves but still vehemently defend the Iranian regime and its crackdown on women's rights because they've been told that criticism of the regime benefits heretics and damages Islam. That's because it's very easy to pressure a devout Muslim into supporting a cause that "protects Islam" with considerable lack of opposition or doubt from the general Muslim community, even the moderates. So I personally find it shocking how many of the same people who can't stop complaining about the Catholic church not fully recognizing same-sex relationships/not supporting women's right to access abortion clinics, are the same ones who happily invite religious zealots who couldn't care less/openly encourage the execution or persecution of homosexuals and are still debating whether women have the right to not cover their hair, let alone have an abortion, into their country. Of course not every Muslim is like that but many are, and the number of conservative Muslims will only increase in the future. This crisis could break Europe and erase hundreds of years of progress in human rights and tolerance, so I hope Europeans and their leaders stop delaying this debate just because some say that "it's racist or islamophobic".

[@Victorvondoom9159]

Thank you for your contribution you confirmed what I already heard from many exmuslim friends

[@weamibrahim2146]

Man, I feel you. Living in Syria, looking for a way out

[@Adnaan98-ONIIL]

Who cares about if your progressive your culture is destroying the world!!!!

[@drmodestoesq]

As a secular Atheist, how do you feel about paragraphs?

[@hanhquyenpham7971]

@@rom1783-c1y I think the Europeans leaders were fully aware. They get what they want. The people pay the price.

[@rhubarb2301]

I appreciate this. I'm very much a left winger, and generally consider myself 'pro-migrant', but it infuriates me to no end that you have to go to the far right here in Britain before you get anyone talking seriously about the long term issues with migration. Not even our populist right Reform UK really get into it beyond rhetoric. I'm very keen to have a genuine discussion about the long term impacts of migration, but you really can't do so without being called a racist! From my position, the mass migration we're currently implementing is a form of an arms race among the West - like a "scramble for Africans" - to plunder as much of the young labour, skills, etc from the world's poorest countries. That inevitably leaves the poor world in a much weaker position as they don't have the workforce they need to develop (in the UK, we have more Ghanaian nurses than there are in Ghana). This means that instead of these countries developing like China to become middle income in a generation or two, they are trapped in desperate poverty for far, far longer than they need to be. Purely for the short term economic gain of already rich countries who can't be bothered to train up their own workers.

[@cwpv2477]

ye its sad but ppl forget history. ppl also forget that the other culture likely sucks when ppl flee in millions from the other country. Would be way less social pressure to just rebuild the nations with high population loss, instead of taking all young people from them. It is never mentioned how mass immigration kills the origin country until the demographics have regenerated.

[@julius43461]

This person gets it

[@pridefulobserver3807]

cheap labor is very convenient for an elite that lives in a bubble away from you peasants

[@sergiu9984]

The people of the west don't want their doctors and engineers We want to train our own It's only leftist and billionaires that want them.

[@jacksonklark6119]

Does the UK have more Ghanian nurse than Ghana because they are stealing all the Ghanian nurse or because they are able to make people nurses more easily.

[@jorisvandenbroecke1574]

Belgian here, moved to sweden recently. Started going to SFI ( swedish for immigrants, free Swedish lessons) people from all over the world in my class, including a guy from syria. He seemed nice, always willing to chat, saying hello, etc.. He moved away to Gothenburg last week and now girls ( the non- muslim ones) have come out, apparently he has been sending them videos of islam preachers( like the ones in the video), quotes from koran etc.. Gives me a eerie feeling knowing people like are freely walking the streets here.

[@adamelghalmi9771]

i feel like there's nothing really wrong with that, unless they told him that they would like him to stop/were not interested in the religion, i know it comes out of good intentions from the guy your mentioning, as it's taught in islam to try and help everyone convert to the religion for them to go to heaven

[@jorisvandenbroecke1574]

None wanted this, none gave any hint they wanted it. They were so frightened they only dared to mentioned it after he was gone.. Also why bother with heaven after death ? Why not make it here, now.. Forcing your religion on others does not seem like it comes from “good intentions”. It looks very arrogant.. like “i know what is best for you, more than you know yourself”

[@RK-cj4oc]

​@@adamelghalmi9771No. Dont move to a foreign country if you cannot let the natives enjoy their beliefs in peace

[@techwithib]

one thing, you colonised our lands, plundered them, backed terrorism, and made our lives unbearable, and now you call us radical and the colonisers when we're escaping this oppression?

[@CrackCatWantsPat]

​@@techwithibWho is we?

[@julius43461]

This is what made me realize that people who masquerade as progressives today don't care one bit about what happens in the future. All they care about is appearing virtuous right now, consequences be damned. As an actual progressive, I am pretty much in favor of not surrendering the most advanced societies on Earth to religious zealots. If you actually want to preserve liberal values, and even make strides towards improvement, than you will not blindly support anything, and you will speak out against insanity even if it means your life becomes less comfortable as a result.

[@cia5649]

I mean there is examples of religious fanaticism within Europe as well? Ireland has not until recently become more liberal

[@auroraperson884]

You're goddamn right.

[@jasonhaven7170]

you're not a "progressive"

[@auroraperson884]

@@jasonhaven7170 Oh trust me, he is. And people like him the best chance we've got for pragmatism, else be damned.

[@julius43461]

@@jasonhaven7170 Correct, I am not a "progressive", but an actual progressive.

[@harveythrondsen9354]

I’m from a muslim majority country - Azerbaijan and I’m living in France. Azerbaijan is not religious at all. But, I have an idea how the religion can affect the life. First of all, countries like Iran, Afganistan, they would never allow someone Christian or Jewish living their life easily. But Europe treats muslims better than muslim countries do to other religions. That aside, I’m gay and I have an opportunity to live a comfortable life in Europe. Now, I believe everyone should be able to practice their religion but if there is any contradiction in the religious ideas with the country laws, then they shouldn’t spread those ideas.

[@reptilefan1115]

Azerbaijan has committed ethnic cleansing against Armenians.

[@Budanov1337]

@@reptilefan1115 Proof? Just don’t use clippings from pro-Armenian newspapers, I want to hear the opinion of a lawyer. Ethnic cleansing is a thing that requires legal consideration, and if more than one lawyer could not prove that ethnic cleansing occurred, then it did not happen.

[@SoGoodCoolCool]

If Azerbaijan is not religious at all, why you have moved to France ? 😅 Can you freely live in Azerbaijan as a gay ? Did you know Jews and Christians have been living in Iran since so many years ago? Have you asked Armenians if they feel comfortable in Iran ? Everyone knows everything about the countries, so don’t try to show your country as the best one and others worse one!

[@isaaclopez70]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂​@@Budanov1337stop saying stupid things...

[@Budanov1337]

@@isaaclopez70 What did I say wrong? I demanded serious evidence. Azerbaijan sued Armenia in an international court to obtain compensation from it for damage caused by the Armenian occupation of Karabakh. Azerbaijan would not do this without strong evidence. If Armenia has evidence that Azerbaijan carried out ethnic cleansing, let it file it in an international court.

[@la1sk203]

It is really weird as a left winger when in UK left wing politicians are actively supporting people who are against left wing.

[@guycrew3973]

The UK is just a mess in general

[@rice4550]

Muslims as a group have always been one of the largest voter blocks that vote for labour and other left wing parties ever since they arrived in the UK, every attempt of right wing social and economic policy has been done by the conservatives a party which muslims dont really vote for i dont know where you got your muslims are anti left from

[@007Anukul]

Denmark's approach seems the best. Also, there should be a culture test questionnaire before granting a visa. Hardcores wouldn't lie on it 😂

[@weamibrahim2146]

What do you mean? Anyone can lie

[@AhmedSamy87]

As a muslim I find this better, than selling "tolerance and freedom of religion" BS where doesn't exist

[@daseapickleofjustice7231]

Europe today has made an artificial culture that does not reflect its true culture which is connected to Asia.

[@abcdqwerty3562]

@@weamibrahim2146A person failed to obtain German citizenship because he wouldn’t shake the woman official’s hand. So clearly it would weed out at least some hardcores.

[@weamibrahim2146]

@@abcdqwerty3562 oh I understand now thanks

[@Nxck2440]

7:00 This is the primary problem. They want their laws to replace ours. That is simply not acceptable.

[@ahmadsulthanaqila4669]

i think the solution is to make and support moderate islamic institution that get along with the government. Government could push the organisation to abide by the state rule. also, thing get kinda complicated when the muslim want to solve their problem based on islamic rule, namely divorcing, inheritance and so on, in indonesia we have separate judicial system, civil one and the religious law. Islamic court could giving recommendation on the civil court to get thing in islamic pov get done, in that manner, muslim are not complaining against the state or even think to overthrow the country to establish the caliphs. On the constrast, european right wing government are against the muslim people and not accomodating their need, european nationalism is based on ethnic, cultural, and religious values of european people that doesnt accomodating another. European country should consider to lay its foundation on diversity, unity on diversity. u cannot force a believe to another people, nor another could do it to u, and i think its became main problem in europe.

[@RyanDerby-cf4pd]

Then ban the religion. This is what Islam fundamentally preaches, and the vast majority of scholars would agree. Secularism doesn't work with Islam because it has at its core political aspects, unlike for example Christianity. Moderates Muslims simply choose to ignore that fact but that doesn't change it. Secularism and the idea of freedom of religion make sense in a country dominated by irreligion or an apolitical religion, not with a political one.

[@emirmorca5751]

It’s just a misrepresentation of what most Muslims think

[@tastashin1553]

@@RyanDerby-cf4pd How liberal is that? Why is this hypocricy? Where is your freedom of speech now? Or does that only apply to whites?

[@A-A_P]

​@@ahmadsulthanaqila4669 there is a strong wish in some circles for the alternative: kick the others out. The european populist right's ideas are similar, at times copycat from across the pond. Not only will they not cooperate, they'll employ force, and most european governments are absolutely capable to do that at least partially. The question is of course risen, as all the immigration in the West has taken place under largely the same states and laws in force today. The same states themselves opened the borders, not some outside force.

[@Radenska512]

Deportation. You cannot mix cultures that are so fundamentally different, period. Some may assimilate, but that would be a very small percentage.

[@ginismoja2459]

This.

[@sirduvongduvoyintensethe3fth]

@@ginismoja2459 a temporary fix to a issue that doesnt exist, have you ever thought of what was the root cause of radical islam? the persecution of muslims.. you're actively seeking out issues and complaining when issues arise

[@felixblanchard7349]

Yes.

[@rxyy4ne560]

dont bomb muslim countries and leave them since your allies seem to want to 'free' us from terrorism in our own countries then we can go back. You started the problem, then complained about the problem that you started then blame us for your problem. Im shocked about how little you people know about Islam, especially because you think islam=kill non-believers and non-believers

[@scythermantis]

this is an essentialist and racist viewpoint you don't get to define what 'culture' is

[@vititom]

I had some exchanges with Muslims in France and Spain in online groups. Their views were far too extreme. They think that within their lifetime at least one European country will fall to Islam and they will control Europe in one or two generations. They were calling for the murder of sexual minorities and anyone suspected of opposing Islam. When I lived in the UK in the late 90s, I remember Muslim students being less radical, but some of them I had as friends on FB, became more radicalized with time. Europe may still save itself, but I don't think there is the political will to do it.

[@dexter_001]

😢😢😢😢this is scary 😰

[@hanhquyenpham7971]

They are not wrong. The demographic change is happening. They can just wait peacefully and take over when the time comes without the unnecessary violence, so I really don’t understand the violent attacks.

[@VM-is8by]

We Indians facing this desert cult for last 800 years...this peaceful relegion is the root cause of division of India and rise of ultra hindhus nationalism....these guys will not integrate, tolerate or co exist with other cultures....they demand otthers to convert and follow their rules....then start to fight with others...when they become enough votes they destroy politics with religious card....so naturally other people react with right wing nationalism

[@gintasasd]

eh u need one of them to fall down for others to say: huh maybe we fucked up.Western europe fucked up itself sorry not sorry estern europe had comunism for good while so i guess you give you get

[@Sid0404]

Based

[@pedroarthurbarbosa]

Islam has nothing to add to European culture, Europe is a continent rich in art, science, architecture and cuisine, not to mention that it is the cradle of Christianity, secularism and various social movements.

[@theblackgods4699]

Europe is not the cradle of Christianity in fact Christianity reached ethopia and sudan before it reached Europe from the middle East

[@pedroarthurbarbosa]

@theblackgods4699 The Christianity we know is of European origin. It was European Christianity that was spread throughout the world and not this supposed Christianity from Africa that you say exists!

[@theblackgods4699]

@@pedroarthurbarbosa I never said Christianity came from Africa I said it came from the middle East .which it did the texts that Europeans based their beliefs on came from the middle East. Wether you're a Catholic or protestant the core idea of Christianity is the belief in christ and his divine parentage which ultimately comes from the middle East. So essentially Europeans just spread the religion that was spread to them.

[@theblackgods4699]

@@pedroarthurbarbosa also there is no Christianity of European origin there are denominations of European origin but Christianity itself can only have one origin which is judea (Israel/palestine)

[@BocchiSite]

Islam actually add to a lot of scienctifict findings. And Christianity is from the middle east not europe

[@Atilolzz]

My condolences and empathy goes to Michael Stürzenberger, who barely survived a vicious and cold blooded knife attack in Mannheim Germany for merely criticizing the political Islam.

[@Megaspinosaurusrex]

My condolences goes to all muslims and non-muslim germans who got attacked by the police just for wearing pro-palestinian symbols

[@MatthewHolmes-g5u]

​@@Megaspinosaurusrexthey weren't killed tho

[@afjo972]

@@Megaspinosaurusrexdon’t you dare to spread such disgusting misinformation. Police officers risk their lives every day to ensure the safety of the general public. You don't know what their relatives are going through. In constant fear of receiving the terrible news that their son, brother or husband has been killed by an Islamist. Police officers deserve nothing but respect. Shame on you for your deviant comment. The perpetrators are ALWAYS pro-Palestinians

[@oadka]

@@Megaspinosaurusrex Anti semitism is a crime in Germany. The police are upholding the rule of law.

[@UKPatriotTV]

@@Megaspinosaurusrexno

[@pablodelafuente8226]

As a non-religious European citizen, I feel threatened by the expansion of a religion like Islam, which does not respect European values, such as equality between men and women, that its prophet made Jihad instead of dying on the cross like Jesus Christ or forgiving those who killed him. It is not only that, we are losing our traditions and identity as nations. European nations have a common history driven by events such as Christianity, Greco-Roman philosophy, science and democracy, the Renaissance and its revolutions such as the French Enlightenment, workers' uprisings or industrialisation. These values ​​forged by history are not within other cultures such as the population of Muslim-majority countries.

[@droson8712]

I don't understand how the Jesus dying on the cross thing has anything to do with European values or with Jihad (which just means struggle or in the context of a fight/war it would be against an oppressing body which we aren't really oppressed in these lands)

[@caesarean38]

Your understanding of the word "Jihad" is wrong and so is your perception of the prophet Mohammed pbuh. Read a book about him if you want and see that he is not the "warmongering lustful warlord" ignorant people say he is but rather a gentle and compassionate prophet like Jesus pbuh. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all Abrahamic religions and all come from the same source and all started and spread through the middle east. None were inherent to the European continent in the first place.

[@jacobjones630]

Don't forget all the imperial plunder and mass murder. Nothing more European than that.

[@LightForxes]

@@droson8712 Jesus Christ dying on the cross is the most important "event" that changed Western Civilization and the world. The religion of Christianity was born out of that event and a whole continent was influenced by it like our laws, culture, traditions, social values, identity, customs, art, architecture, music etc so it has everything to do with European values since then we spread this values throughout the world which is how Western Civilization became the dominant civilization on earth

[@xtradi]

Both Jesus and Muhammad comes from Middle East so please try to find other figures for European values that vaguely resemble middle age oppressive Christianity. Or we go back to pagan rome where every citizen is free to choose side deity but main deity must be Roman Emperor choosing

[@soratoarcenciel]

Young people being more religious than their parents would kill all progress Europe has made Those things in schools are truly terrifying

[@shayanhosseini8429]

I think is because the lack of identity younger muslim develop, plus some hardcore ideologies like salafist that developed in the recent century due to colonialism in their ancestral countries

[@Abdullah-mh7eg]

@@shayanhosseini8429 salafism isnt from colonialism, it litteraly means to follow the salaf wich is most purest form of islam

[@Megaspinosaurusrex]

@@Abdullah-mh7eg I'm muslim, but modern salfism is a mouvement pushed by colonialism. For example people were much more open to sufism before than today. I'm not going to agree with islampophobes though. The reason many muslims are like this is a defense mechanism against decades of colonialism and persecution. They created it, they deal with it.

[@hello855]

Gen Zs in general are getting into religions and politics more because of the internet. It's a worldwide issue. Other religious extremists are also popping up.

[@IntoEurope]

To my Dutch audience (but also everyone else), this video was made before the current developments in Amsterdam, but there are now several things that I can now expand on for the policy response of the Netherlands. While this video will give you the bigger picture understanding of what is happening, I am currently working on the next episode of Last Week in Europe, which will feature a part on the what is happening in Amsterdam, the football game and supporters, the rioting, and antisemitic attacks. When it comes to the reaction by the Dutch authorities and the Dutch political class so far, there has been talk of 'integratieprobleem' -- an integration problem. This discourse puts the Netherlands on the path to follow the Danish approach which I cover in this video (though certain politicians like Geert Wilders are likely to push for some Swedish elements to it). I have yet to see anything related to the French/Danish approaches -though that may yet come. As the political narrative develops, I hope to update more on this subject for the Netherlands, but also other European countries. Cheers, Hugo

[@Lefaid]

I great look forward to the video

[@everydaylife5641]

By antisemitic attacks you probably mean the Maccabi Fans who attacked anyone who looked Arab

[@Omer1996E.C]

I hope you really look into it, especially since you're an open minded dutch. I'm sure you'll find out about official narrative bias and the Israeli lobby lies, as well as Netanyahu's exaggeration when he compared this with the .... you know it.

[@tahmed2176]

Interesting that you interpret the reaction to Maccabi fans rioting, attacking cab drivers and locals, while shouting disgusting genocidal and racist rhetoric towards Arabs - as antisemitic attacks.

[@Omer1996E.C]

I hope you really look into it, especially since you're an open minded dutch. I'm sure you'll find out about official narrative bias and the lobby lies, as well as Netanyahu's exaggeration when he compared this with the .... you know it.

[@Jack-gl2xw]

Every other religion has integrated into Europe without issue. I don't think Europe is the intolerant force here...

[@keepsauce]

I don’t think so. The holocaust didn’t happened in vaccum, there was definitely religious things influenced holocaust.

[@Jack-gl2xw]

@@keepsauce modern day europe

[@TheGreatVivek7]

Rule of thumb: In countries where Muslims are in minority, Muslims are concerned about minority rights. In countries where Muslims are the majority, there is no minority.

[@Spodogo]

You should rewatch the video, as you have not grasped it, no offence intended. Nobody is saying that Europe is to blame for their failed integration efforts. They simply need to just do more to combat Islamism.

[@nightthemoon8481]

@@Jack-gl2xw ok, what other religion has a similar percentage to islam in europe and has integrated well? which religion has the vast majority of the representatives in europe from war torn countries (due to the west's oil thirst), and it's widely known that poverty is directly linked to crime, as is evidenced by denmark's integration policies working, even tho it's only been 3-4 years since they've implemented them. What do you think is different about islam? do you know that "sharia" is literally just 5-6 laws against murder, adultery, sa, false adultery allegations and repeated fraud.

[@zzzzz-w4i2t]

"The Greatest JIHAD is to battle your own soul, to fight the Evil within yourself ." - Prophet Muhammad(SAW).

[@yordangrigorov5725]

In other words: Stop voting for socialists

[@sublimeksaleel]

Yeah, good luck with that. We all saw what happened in France. There needs to be a grassroots level education across Europe to accomplish that, something the likes of Charlie Kirk, V.Ramaswamy and Tusli Gabbard and many others did.

[@KL-zt6jx]

Lol, who do you think brought the first generation of workers to Europe? They were all liberals and conservatives, because they needed more workers so that they could force the native workers to accept the low wage. The native workers wanted higher wages, but the factories instead opted to "import" new labourers.

[@michelbruns]

The surveys shown during the 6th minute are crazy

[@furkan3945]

I am 30 yo muslim grown up in europe and i have yet to encounter a single muslim that says sharia law should be above local law. This is of course an anecdote but it really makes me wonder where all these people are

[@michelbruns]

@furkan3945 most probably wouldnt admit if asked

[@CjqNslXUcM]

@@furkan3945 Wouldn't you say that rules made up by a god who can supposedly punish you for eternity are more important than those made up by humans? "What's the worst thing humans can do, send you to god?" I think this is how respondents interpret this question. I imagine a higher percentage would respond in favor of local law when asked specifically about one of the gruesome laws and punishments of Sharia, relying on morality instead.

[@furkan3945]

@@michelbruns admit what? I am here for an open conversation as an into europe fan. Ask me a question. Not even my relatives in turkey that live in one of the most religious provinces think sharia should be above the turkish law.

[@furkan3945]

@@CjqNslXUcM indeed the way the question was posed can make a difference. No one that really believes in a religion would admit that religion is just a hobby and the government is above everything. But in daily life they still adhere and support the state they grow up in. Maybe a better way of asking a question would be whether someone is willing to break local laws (& go to prison or sth) because sharia says so. I believe almost everyone would say no then.

[@blava3155]

As a Muslim in the Middle East, I was very shocked when I went to Europe and saw the way that many Muslims and those from my region are living and behaving there. It was such a shock and a disappointment because it felt like they brought with them the worst possible aspects of our societies and religion and very few, if any, of the good behaviors. Moreover, most of them think that they’re doing Europe a favor by going there because Europe doesn’t have enough workers (even though the ones I know were Uber drivers)! And funnily enough, like you mentioned radicalism and extremism are heavily in the Middle East, yet it felt virtually nonexistent in the West…

[@alialdoukhi2014]

As a Saudi trying to escape Islamism I feel cornered by this disgusting extremist view, I just want to be gay in peace man........

[@Handle0108]

may Allah guide you

[@alialdoukhi2014]

@@Handle0108 May he not, his people guided me through hell, Just leave me alone, I want peace.

[@evansnyamesah1755]

​@alialdoukhi2014 do you follow trash discourse too?😅

[@stormy7833]

ikr!

[@hopeintruth5119]

​@evansnyamesah1755 no he just wants to be left alone. Religious people have this weird tendency to force themselves and their ideals onto everyone

[@benestantial3367]

Really great and nice video. You covered all the points i wanted. As a Dane, im really satisfied with the depths, specifically covering many central issues in Denmark. Remember also that the danish social democrats completely switched their opinion on immigration, and saw huge success. Or the Mohammad drawings causing a big scandal. i really appreciate the video man! keep it up

[@ArthurWilliams-k3o]

There’s a lot to unpack and debunk here: Salafism spread in Europe from 1980 to 2000, during the Sahwa period, when Saudi Arabia poured around $100 billion into spreading Salafist ideas globally. The money went into building Salafist mosques, publishing books, and funding various Salafist conferences. Salafist groups found their strongest following among young Muslims in poorer areas, where people often felt disconnected from both their parents' Sunni religiosity and society. They pushed for young muslims to separate themselves from wider society and even justified political violence in religion's name. What's particularly concerning is how they've used legitimate concerns about anti-Muslim discrimination as a recruitment tool. Instead of helping, they've often made things worse by encouraging isolation. Internet forums and social media have made it much easier for them to reach young people. The Salafist ideology contributed nothing to the Muslim communities. The main reason to explain what people call "parallel societies" is the economic factor which you barely mentioned, because most Muslims in Europe come from working-class backgrounds and often live in poorer areas. These families often stay in these poor areas because they have limited chances to move up economically, coupled with high unemployment rates makes economic segregation worse. The cost of housing can keep people concentrated in certain areas too. It’s important to note that these patterns have happened with other immigrant groups and are not only unique to Muslims. Many Muslims are well-integrated and live in mixed neighbourhoods. Highlighting issues related to immigration and integration is often a powerful populist tool used by Right wing politicians in elections. The fact that European Muslims spend money on halal products and businesses doesn't mean they are against integration, which is ridiculous to say. These Halal friendly businesses pay their VAT and corporation tax to the government which means they’re integrated. Halal products and businesses were setup to cater to the religious and cultural needs of the Muslim community. Just like the Chinese have Chinatown, Italians have Little Italy, and Jews have Kosher friendly businesses. Halal friendly businesses often serve a wide range of customers, and the demand for such products isn’t limited to Muslims. European anti-radicalization laws, such as banning the hijab or shutting down Muslim charities, are just Islamophobic laws that does not help reduce radicalization at all. Often seen as collective punishment aimed at Muslim communities because of actions caused by Salafists who are a minority. Some security experts have even pointed out that these measures could actually back up claims made by Salafist groups that all European states and societies are deeply anti-Islam, even though this isn’t true. This approach may end up causing more division instead of creating long term solutions. The Henry Jackson Society that you cited, is a right wing and Islamophobic think tank. It was founded by Alan Mendoza and few others. Mendoza also sits on the board of the Jewish National Fund (JNF). The JNF isn't just any organization - it's actually the biggest group building settlements in Palestine and has played a key role in preventing Palestinian refugees from returning to their homes, despite UN Resolution 194 saying they have that right. Looking at who signed the society's founding documents tells us more about its connections. One notable name is Irwin Stelzer, who was basically Rupert Murdoch's close associate. This explains why Murdoch's newspapers, like The Sun and The Times, often publish articles by Henry Jackson Society members - articles that often show clear anti-Muslim bias. The Hertog Foundation funds the Henry Jackson Society, but they're also big supporters of Israeli settlements in the West Bank. The same foundation puts money into Friends of the IDF and the Middle East Forum. Florence Bergeaud-Blackler is a known Islamophobe and a charlatan who is presented as a serious academic researcher when her work is just cheap polemics and exaggeration of the Muslim Brotherhood’s influence. She received criticism from many researchers concerning the quality of her work. Muslim Brotherhood doesn’t call to Islamize the world that’s a clear cut lie. It primary focus is on promoting Islamic values and interests within Muslim communities. In the UK, for example, “Muslim Brotherhood dominated” Muslim Association of Britain (MAB), rejects violence and participates in activism and local elections. They actually support social integration and encourage young people to be active and responsible citizens. “We see the results of this in European streets where there have been Islamist protests in countries like the Netherlands or Germany, calling for the establishment an Islamic caliphates across Europe.” It’s worth noting that these protests are organized by members of Hizbu Tahrir, an international Salafist group that advocates for establishing a caliphate in the Muslim world. It’s a fringe organization among the Muslim communities globally. "Sharia Patrols" were made up of a small group of unemployed Salafists connected to the banned organization Al-Muhajiroun. The so-called Sharia Patrols were harassing mainly Muslims in East London. The East London Mosque also publicly condemned the patrols and Metropolitan police arrested many of its members, The group was effectively shut down and no longer existed after 2014. The Southport murderer was born in Wales, UK, and suffered from mental illness. He came from a Christian family originally from Rwanda. There is no evidence to suggest that he was Muslim or that he carried out the attacks in the name of Islam. The UK government has authorized two additional charges against him. “Even if we leave aside the calls to ‘submit or kill the non-believers’ - which have been taken to heart by radicals and terrorists, the Koran is hardly a call for integration.” - This is clearly a misleading statement. Salafist terrorist groups like AQ and ISIL mostly justify their terrorism by citing Western military interventions in MENA region. If you read their materials which I bet you didn’t, they base their violence on political reasons not religious reasons, and they often refer to the works of figures like Mohammed Ibn Abd al-Wahhab, Sayyid Qutb, and the Khawarij sect, known for its extreme beliefs. Even when these groups quote the Qur’an, they do so out of context to fit their agenda. Major Muslim leaders, scholars, and numerous Islamic councils around the world have strongly condemned Salafi jihadism, calling it a deviant and unacceptable interpretation of Islam. To say that the Qur’an hardly calls for integration is simply not true. The Qur’an encourages Muslims to engage positively with others and highlights values that support peaceful coexistence and mutual respect. Here are some examples: Chapters 60:8, 49:13, 5:8, and 2:256. You mentioned Singapore as an example of successful Muslim coexistence, but I’m surprised you didn’t mention American Muslims. They are one of the most well-integrated Muslim communities in the West. Many American Muslims are part of the middle class and actively participate in society and the democratic process.

[@IntoEurope]

1-No comment, I don’t talk that extensively about Salafism in this video. 2- Parallel societies are a feature of Islam, when Denmark tried to tackle them through its social engineering policies to tackle crime, low employment… It got called racist for breaking up communities. You do not get to have it both ways, saying that parallel societies are the consequence of poverty and complain when they get broken up to improve outcomes for living there. 3-The Halal economy, is a parallel economy by definition - it is about creating a class of products and services that is made mostly by and for muslims. Goes far beyond food products we, there is Islamic finance, there is ‘Modest fashion’. These elements differentiate muslims from non-muslims - and that is the goal. (See ‘Le Marche Halal’ by Florence Bergeaud Backler) 4- Muslim majority countries are banning hijabs, and shutting down muslim organisations as well. - I talk about the consequences of this in the 4th part of this video. 5- Yes, I am aware of their leanings, but is their poll methodologically sound? I would say yes, and their results are in line with other polls from credible institutions. The day were the UK censes agencies make similar polls, I will share them - until then, all I had access to was this imperfect data. 6- I read their criticism to make my own opinion, and they do the same thing as calling her ‘Islamophobic’ which is not a rebuttal of any of her arguments or body of work. Epistemological, these critics provide little to no value to the public debate. 7- "Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. Qur'an is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope." This is the motto of the Muslim Brotherhood. If this is not a call for an Islamic society While (currently) non-violent, it is as multiple security studies have shown a destabilizing force and increases the rift between Muslims and non-Muslims. 8- Protests that are good illustration if not entirely a reflection of the political opinions of Muslims in Europe as seen by the 3 surveys I shared. 9-The evidence against him - that he has an Al-Qaeda manual on his laptop, and the highly suggestive fact that every single court sketch of him has him hiding his face (and potential facial hair features?) 10- Again, the Quran is ambiguous and ambivalent (as I mention in the video), you can take any call for integration and match it up with a call for tolerance (I am not going to get into the debate on whether these are Mecca or Medina Sourats, and the context in which they were written). - You can decide that you want to engage with only the positive ones, fine, but that is not a reflection of reality. The fact is these calls for secession and difference are the ones being shared by mosques (many Salafi Imams in Europe) and TikTok imams. And reflected in the behaviour of Muslims in selecting friends as demonstrated by the academic studies mentioned in this video. 11- Muslims in the US represent less than 1% of the population - in a more religious society, which previously had a highly selective immigration procedure under which its Muslims came. And the country is about to implement a second muslim immigration ban under the new Trump presidency. I doubt such a policy approach would be contested by Europe’s far right leaders Hopefully, this clarifies a few things. 😊 And thank you for allowing me to flex my keyboard! Cheers, Hugo

[@ArthurWilliams-k3o]

You’re welcome, Keyboard warrior! Just kidding, “Parallel societies are a feature of Islam”. This is simply not true. Islam does not explicitly advocate for separation, there’s no evidence of that. Again, similar socio-economic patterns of community clustering can be seen in various ethnic and religious immigrant groups around the world. Denmark’s anti-ghetto policies faced criticism from organizations like the EU Agency for Fundamental Rights and Amnesty International for potential discrimination and the exclusion of community voices during the process. No one criticised them for tackling poverty and crime. This social policy has never been done before in Denmark and we need to wait for the future to see its full results. “The Halal economy, is a parallel economy by definition“. Again this is false. The Halal economy operates within existing European economic structures and markets. It creates jobs and generates tax revenue for the local government. It doesn't create a separate, parallel system because Halal products and services are already being integrated into mainstream markets, alongside non-Halal offerings like in Belgium and the UK. Florence Bergeaud-Blackler`s book, Le Marché Halal, has been met with criticism for exaggerating the implications and framing the halal market as divisive lol, which is not supported by any evidence. “these critics provide little to no value to the public debate”. Well, I’m not sure about that. The Islamophobia Industry: How the Right Manufactures Fear of Muslims (2012) by Nathan Lean critiques Bergeaud-Blackler's work. The Oxford Handbook of European Islam (2014) by Jocelyne Cesari who criticised Bergeaud-Blackler's simplistic approach. Even Lorenzo Vidino who’s known for his UAE funding and for writing extensively against the MB presence in Europe, questioned Bergeaud-Blackler's methodology. “This is the motto of the Muslim Brotherhood. If this is not a call for an Islamic society”. Again, based on that motto where does it call for the Islamization of Europe and the world? None. That motto was used during the early days of the Muslim Brotherhood in the 1930s during the British colonial rule of Egypt and its aftermath, context is important here. Since the 1980s, their motto was changed and their activities was also changed towards social and educational activities. “Muslim majority countries are banning hijabs, and shutting down Muslim organisations as well”. No, they are not lol. There are 49 Muslim-majority countries, only 2 countries banned wearing hijabs in public and 5 countries banned wearing Burqa in public citing security reasons which is understandable. MB-affiliated organizations are the only organizations that are being shut down mainly in the Gulf countries, because they view them as a threat to their authoritarian regimes. “The day were the UK censes agencies make similar polls, I will share them”. I completely agree. “Highly suggestive fact that every single court sketch of him has him hiding his face (and potential facial hair features?)” Even if he had facial features that is still not evidence that he is a Muslim and carried the attacks in the name of Islam. The investigation is still ongoing, we will have to wait and see. “but that is not a reflection of reality”. Well, that claim definitely has no basis in reality. As I said, Salafist terrorist groups justify their attacks based on political grounds backed by modern jihadist literature. I advise you to read the works by Charles R. Lister, Hassan Hassan and Michael Weiss. “calls for secession and difference are the ones being shared by mosques (many Salafi Imams in Europe) and TikTok imams.” Nobody is disputing with you on that, Salafists are known to be an exclusionary group like I said before.

[@_Faheem.20_]

​@ I have to say, I'm extremely impressed with how you have demonstrated your argument in a precise, thoughtful and professional manner. With regards to what you have stated, I would have to say that I agree with every point you have made and there is no denying that this video is portraying a certain narrative that is coming across as one-sided unfortunately. Overall, I would like to say, both of your responses are some of the best comments I have ever stumbled across concerning this debate. Thank you for your unbiased approach and accuracy, I very much appreciate it.

[@yassinekj4159]

@@ArthurWilliams-k3o mashaallah

[@bruceyawen6160]

For peacfull coexistence of europeans and islam, the faith would need to secularize to some extend which, as we saw in the video, is not happening - quite the opposite in fact. And the if we're really honest: everyone knows how this is going to end. Question is only if the europeans will accept their fate peacefully

[@KOliberKuku]

Spreading religion across EU should be treated just like spreading missinformation, becouse it literally is xD

[@domenstrmsek5625]

​@@HisarHida And Saudis are on the right

[@alfrredd]

Like a spreading virus.

[@caesarean38]

assuming you know best

[@TheRatOnFire_]

@@caesarean38 Ottomans were kicked out for a reason

[@Frodo1000000]

@@caesarean38 Of course. Because religion is faith, secularism is knowledge. It's quite literally "knowing" best. You get my upvote!

[@Anakin1999]

UK does seem to be only place to not have a political backlash against Islam (tho it did have a violent backlash this summer), note how Reform UK is the only major Far-Right party in Europe not to have an explicit anti-Islam platform

[@Frodo1000000]

That's true, there's been recent Tommy Robinson's Syrian Refugee case controversy though.

[@hello855]

Yeah, but what would an explicit anti-Islam platform actually look like?

[@matt7192]

It would probably be illegal. British people also spend more hours on average consuming media & therefore have a smaller overton window of acceptable thought.

[@herpicusderpicus128]

there is no far right party in the entire western world. all these positions are standard nationalist positions from just 50 years ago

[@mohammadzaker575]

As a Iranian 🇮🇷 i can tell you the majority of people are leaving Islam, we are only in name Islam

[@Youtube..Enjoyer]

Yeah Shia islam isn't doing so well

[@ginismoja2459]

Good, about time.

[@Megaspinosaurusrex]

In iran maybe, not worldwide

[@haziqali9716]

That does seem to be a very Iranian thing currently. Not shared across the world though.

[@username-ek1kd]

Shia is not even a real religion, it's just a conspiracy theory

[@CryptoC4T]

Poland has no problem with Islam. It also has low social benefits in comparison to the West.

[@chris6ix.]

Yeah, because Poland doesn't take in a lot of immigrants from Muslim countries. By far the biggest portion of the immigrants, that Poland takes in are Ukrainians, and they don't cause much trouble. That is why Poland is now much safer than all the countries that took in Muslims.

[@hamsatd]

It has people leaving to seek a better life.

[@Frodo1000000]

@@hamsatd not really, not anymore. Used to be so in 2000s, not so in 2020s. source: I live there, happily, and confident of a better future. And so are many other people. Some Polish people are actually coming back to the country after having emigrated in 2000s and 2010s.

[@daseapickleofjustice7231]

Poland is built on loans from the western core so it can act as a buffer against Russia. Polande success is not Polands own work. The country is built on socialism and then today that structure is maintained by international banking.

[@oliveryt7168]

​​​@@hamsatd yeah, but those people integrate well in those societies.. here in Germany Poles are even assimilated... you can't tell apart a German from a Pole.. unlike many Muslims that still see the Native Germans as weak and inferior.. many Turks still identify as Turks, even if they are born here.. they still choose to name their children Ali or Fatma.

[@acatreassuresyouthateveryt7842]

As Indonesian it baffles me how majority of muslim in european country can be a fundamentalist. Heck, the statistic that said that younger generation become more fundamentalist is insane, at least compared to here.

[@shafsteryellow]

Because they change the definition of fundamentalism

[@RK-cj4oc]

Funnily enough, in the Netherlands Indonesians are one of the most integrated groups.

[@acatreassuresyouthateveryt7842]

@@RK-cj4oc I'm pretty sure that one phenomenon is because we were colonized by the dutch and have almost zero grudge to our colonizer. This is not unique to Netherlands, I'm pretty sure this happen to Japan too.

[@RK-cj4oc]

@@acatreassuresyouthateveryt7842 That is possible. Personally i believe it is because Indonesians just have a very welcoming and confident culture that does not rely on violence . So they integrated better and interact more with Dutch people. In Dutch school muslims boys and men often self segerate themselves into their own groups. Indonesians rarely take part in that.

[@acatreassuresyouthateveryt7842]

@@RK-cj4oc I hope that is the reason, yes.

[@silvesta5027]

Oh boy these comments are gonna be something aren’t they? 😭 Huge props to you for covering such a controversial topic with integrity

[@cwpv2477]

video sucked

[@AlTarif]

It's only controversial to un serious people.

[@Anon-y4w]

I felt that while the author tried to stay neutral, there were several instances of cherrypicking, manipulation and cause substitution in his video. Whether it was intentional or just a cognitive bias, I don't know. But I feel it should be addressed, because the video feels one-sided in the end.

[@qwerty-p6j]

It's only controversional for those who are not willing to make any changes about i

[@oadka]

It is clear that Islam is the problem, not Europe as other religious immigrants (Hindus, Buddhists etc) do not cause any problems of this kind and are more than willing to accept that human rights and the constitution of the country is non negotiable. The fact the muslims disagree shows that they have no willingness to integrate. This coupled with European governments being too scared or politically correct to truly call out the issue as it is, is very concerning. The newer generations of immigrants being more radical should not come as a surprise to anyone. The first generation immigrants coming from muslim countries have seen firsthand the suffering and broken societies created by strong islamic values and are more willing to reject it. The further generations, growing up in Europe taking human rights for granted have not seen this and thus directly fall for the strong islamic propaganda without having the reality of an islamic society to balance it out. The new generation immigrants believing more strongly in Islam than the first generation is like leftist people living in capitalist societies calling for communism without having experienced the pains of living in a communist society. The muslims calling for an Islamic caliphate in Europe, why don't they take a trial of it in Afghanistan? It is a true caliphate. The perceived discrimination is overblown imo as they are the ones who are unwilling to engage in discussion or debate over the role of their religion, making it almost taboo to even have peaceful criticism. Such constructive criticism immediately gets viewed as Islamophobia. Also, aren't they being discriminatory against the beliefs of the other 80% of european residents by calling for things like Sharia law and establishment of islamic caliphates? It's going to be a great day for human rights and global society the day middle easter oil money stops flowing. Thank you for making this detailed and well researched video that many others lack the guts to make.

[@casey203]

Who had the Islamic caliphate of Europe on their year 2100 bingo card?

[@SaadBinAlamgir3345]

I doubt world will exist that long

[@sayuas4293]

The left.

[@oliveryt7168]

Maybe Germany.. maybe England..

[@oliveryt7168]

​@@SaadBinAlamgir3345 it will.. insha'Allah 😂

[@SarahSaadsaoud]

This is not true bro Islam is 1400 years old

[@Mylris]

Plants and Animals are called an Invasive species, humans are called diversity

[@hopeintruth5119]

Technically all humans out of Africa are invasive to the area. Then slowly we humans adapted to those areas bit overtime still have massive negative impact like invasive species. Out competing other species, massively debalancing the food chain, etc etc. But when humans also move to meet up with other humans. It wouldn't be called invasive. It's kind of weird to kind of call a group of the same species as invasive if there is a subset that already lives there that easily share the same niche and intermingle

[@golagiswatchingyou2966]

​@@hopeintruth5119stop spreading fake news, perhaps you are just a bot.

[@SaadBinAlamgir3345]

Yeah that's how humanity thriving

[@69TheSkepticalOne69]

No​@@SaadBinAlamgir3345

[@KURENANI]

Take a science class and you will understand how stupid this comment is🤦‍♀

[@jorgecorea405]

Proud of Poland, Romania Hungary and Czech little Muslim population

[@Frodo1000000]

As a Pole, I'm really happy and content it is that way. I hope it stays that way

[@linakhan331]

The are poor European country who want to go low economic growth countries.

[@radwooah]

@@linakhan331 They are still much wealthier than the rest of the world. Also the gap is narrowing each year.

[@A-A_P]

​@@linakhan331 the difference is decreasing year by year, not to mention that, as many, many developing countries are majority christian instead, you could have mass immigration without any muslims. Not to mention the situations of Ukraine and Russia etc, whose disporas have spread across the rest of Europe for different reasons over the centuries, them also retaining christian beliefs, if any at all.

[@Megaspinosaurusrex]

@@Frodo1000000 What about native polish muslims?

[@lamebubblesflysohigh]

We (native Europeans) will all eventually have to move west to Americas just like Elves in works of Tolkien. His works were rather prophetic for fantasy novels.

[@incurableromantic4006]

They'll just follow and repeat the same process - we either save our homelands, or we vanish.

[@ultroyluvsf1]

I don't want to sound like a crazy right wing ook but look at Posen and Nederlands as an example.Posen maintained a hardline stance against migration well before the current administration everyone was welcome in Nederlands.Europe become soft and liberal which is why it was so easy for muslim culture to infltrate.Europe abounded her relgion and culture and now she is being punished for it

[@jacobjones630]

Culture of imperialism and mass murder.

[@newt4050]

Poland won't be Islamic state, so not entirety of Europe

[@romariowright9061]

Muslims should be free to practice their faith just like any other religion. However, they have no right to impose their faith or belief on the wider population. Same thing goes for Christian. EU society must be and remain secular!!! Good video !

[@Omer1996E.C]

Honestly, nobody is imposing sharia or even advocating for it. There are those who ask to be given the right to self-rule in accordance to sharia laws. This is currently not allowed, since courts insist on having monopoly or ruling.

[@CjqNslXUcM]

@@Omer1996E.C People can personally act in accordance with Sharia, as long as they don't violate the actual law. This is important because the legal system is created on the basis of precedent and democratic decisions. It is tethered to moral preferences, which everyone accepts as real. Adults don't think the truth claims of religions they don't believe in are very plausible, which makes it a bad source for laws. If I told you about how X or Y proves Christianity is true, you would think it's ridiculous that people believe that. The law protects people from child marriage, stoning, mutilation, killing, etc. even if Sharia endorses those things. Western countries won't ever compromise on those things, as there is real moral opposition, independent of belief.

[@alfrredd]

No, all religions should be banned, they are the root cause of 95% of wars and deaths in the last 2000 years. No more believing in fairies, ghosts and flying all-mighty entities.

[@gincegeorge1047]

Stop comparing Christianity with islam.People with your secular midset are the sameones that allowed muslims to emigrate into the country.Blame yourself before blaming Christianity.

[@Jose04537]

That's literally not how religion works. Followers are told to convert as many people as posible to grow their influence and advance their agenda. In this case, implies the destruction of democracy and liberal values.

[@ciupenhauer]

Centrists will never provide adequate solutions, which will inevitably lead to a hard right solution, whether we like it or not something has to be done

[@everydaylife5641]

@@ciupenhauer that’s probably what 1933 Germans said. Go on and repeat that mistake but leave the rest of society out of this, thank you very much ❤️

[@inteallsviktigt]

@@everydaylife5641well it’s because the other couldn’t provide a solution so they got in to power … and we know how that turned out.

[@wss33]

@@everydaylife5641 How was that a mistake? I would love to see that repeat.

[@htm000]

​@@everydaylife5641he says as Germany sleepwalks into the exact same path because they didn't do anything about the issue

[@fonsleduck3643]

@@inteallsviktigt A solution to what? There was no real problem there, they were just the scape-goats for a bunch of problems Germany had and a bunch of hate followed.

[@elibolton6235]

I’m an American watching this. Seeing religion seem above real-world laws makes me sick. If you move to a country, you respect their values. I hope to move to Switzerland, but I hope that these radical religious views don’t ruin the continent.

[@shafsteryellow]

lol saying that as an American is peak irony

[@RyanDerby-cf4pd]

Start by removing the mention of God in your dollar bills

[@jonan-420]

​@@shafsteryellowwhy dont he follow animism or something like that😅

[@AhmedSamy87]

Real-world laws are shaped by society’s view of right and wrong, which is inherently subjective. In many Western countries, these views evolve over time. Preferring Sharia law over state law is not necessarily a radical stance; it’s actually a mainstream view among many Muslims. Why should it be an issue to hold a perspective on what is right and wrong? Ultimately, the people living in a society determine its values and laws.

[@emirmorca5751]

How exactly do Christian’s do it? lol doesn’t make no sense at all. You follow the rules of your country and you follow the rules of your religion. Hypothetically As a Christian would you say that you follow the state law first and then the religious law. Yes? That’s only because the law doesn’t have any thing contradictory to religion. Which is the case for Islam too But let’s say state law would idk ban all non meat foods for the time of Easter fasting. Would you follow your religious law and try to find anything other than meat, even though illegal? Or would you just not fast? My point is that the Islamic „law“ is a set of morals a Muslim should follow. And there should be no real clash between state law and religious law. If there is a clash, then it is because state law wants to enforce something on Moral law.

[@janism94]

We've been invaded - none of this is by consent

[@jamievarbondg]

If a country has Sharia law, I'm not going.

[@xenoph9380]

You don"t have to go, it'll come to you.

[@HamzaHassan-e4f]

Good​@@xenoph9380

[@isidromartinez4368]

@@xenoph9380Keep it away

[@GuyWithBeardButNoMoustache]

well congrats, your only destination is probably the moon or some deserted island, Sharia laws are 90% personal life day to day average joe muslim, practising good hygiene? sharia law, you see someone praying or making Dua? sharia law is in play, you planted a tree, fed the needy, or donated charity?? congrats, that's also sharia law, you were good to your parents, family, neighbours? that's multiple sharia laws at play... and even the DPRK has muslims, so.... now what??

[@achd5962]

there are probably aspects of sharia law in your judicial law. try one day without writing ignorant comments online

[@vitalii-dan]

Do you think that recent events in Afghanistan will open the eyes of radicalized European Muslims, especially women and girls? Your channel is one of my favorites! 🇪🇺💙

[@Megaspinosaurusrex]

Ah yes afghanistan, my favorite european country

[@dragonfire3727]

lol no, it will maybe cause the reverse

[@Ludix147]

I think we should at the very least not allow foreign countries to finance European Islam. Arriving at a liberal view of Islam really is key. Fundamentalist Islam is incompatible with our liberal democracy, just as fundamentalist Christian sects are.

[@gincegeorge1047]

You don't understand the teachings of islam.Islam is noncompatible with anything except islam not even with christianity.Start learning about islam then you will understand it is cult not a religion.

[@Frodo1000000]

While I think this is a great idea, I don't think there's a way to properly enforce it.

[@AhmedSamy87]

honest question, define liberal Islam and fundemntal islam ?

[@architkumarsingh4547]

@@AhmedSamy87 Fundmentalist Islam is just Fundamentalism. Here is the read: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalism

[@trollfacemafiagaming6036]

Secular countries do the same in Muslim countries tho there's 100s of NGOs and think tanks propogating western liberal values in Muslim countries

[@alexzicker]

from 711, when Tariq crossed the strait of Gibraltar, until 1492, when the Catholic Kings conquered Granada, there were 782 years of continuous religious war between Christianity and Islam. There was time in those 8 centuries to find accommodation between the two societies, and none was found. It's in the history books.

[@costantinochianale4904]

How about you read of the historic example the Caliphate of Cordoba set, being one of the most religiously tolerant and culturally rich societies in Europe at the time. In Spain Muslims and Christians fought against each other just as much as they fought amongst themselves.

[@venerable9077]

​@@costantinochianale4904That's pretty much a lie. The Caliphate of Cordoba was as bad as the other states around them. Let's not forget that the Visigothic Kingdom was invaded by the Muslims and both the nobility and peasantry were persecuted by the new regime

[@costantinochianale4904]

@@venerable9077 As they did to the romans in the area and as the romans did to the celts and native iberians. My point is that Cordoba was demonstrably more tolerant of its christian and jewish population. Need I remind you that both muslims and jews were fully expelled from Spain in 1492, to the point that Thessaloniki in greece had a majority of spanish speakers just from the jewish refugees that went to the Ottoman empire. I'm assuming you're spanish from your name and rhetoric, I really would encourage you to read up on your muslim history, it's a great point of national pride that you're missing out on just because they followed a different god.

[@The_Midnight_Bear]

@@costantinochianale4904 " being one of the most religiously tolerant and culturally rich societies in Europe at the time." Because the standards were extremely low. It was still apartheid.

[@54032Zepol]

Maybe is Europe embraced Islam there would be compatibility

[@kristafluit3042]

Amazing video and exactly what we need for the moderates and liberals to understand that it's definitely a topic that deserves our attention

[@Anon-y4w]

It is a topic that deserves our attention, and I think recently it does have our attention. However, the video feels one-sided in the end, still.

[@steveripethefustercluck.]

My thoughts The moment some one or group advocates for sharia law they are arrested or kicked out the country The moment they threaten anyone under religious pretences Arrested and or kicked out the country The moment ANY VIOLENCE happens in relation do to their religion Arrested or kicked out the country Also Criticism should not be silenced but allowed public spaces just like with any other ideology or religion.

[@adamelghalmi9771]

as a muslim i agree with all points that have been stated, but i feel as though the "criticism" being given is just disrespect, but hey freedom of speech is the first amendment, so i can't really complain about that. it's like when people deny the holocaust. i mean sure, they can do it, but it's really disrespectful

[@RK-cj4oc]

​@@adamelghalmi9771It turns into disrespect because the threat of violence from muslims often lead to disrespect. If muslims were more accepting of critisism the type of critisism would also be more normal.

[@RK-cj4oc]

​@@adamelghalmi9771Also. Wtf. Critising the holocaust is in no way equal to disagreeing with islam. Wtf? The Holocaust is something that people lived through and we know happend. Islam is a religion.

[@Frodo1000000]

@@adamelghalmi9771 anyone should be able to crticize any ideas. Islam included, no special treatment. It's weird that you think Islam should be immune to criticism

[@steveripethefustercluck.]

@@RK-cj4oc To be fair I don't think he was saying that they are the same in damage more so a really bad wording of "Its really bad that people say X but freedom of speech dictates that it should be allowed"

[@cowcow0506]

If you want to live in our country, you have to follow our rules. I don’t understand why this is such a controversial notion to people. You should be more than welcome to come over and make a life for yourself here, but you don’t get to show up and expect us to adopt and let your views supersede our systems

[@davidpocsi1733]

If you want islamic law then emigrate from Europe to an islamic country.

[@JaxonSmith-sg2rd]

It's turning into a Muslim AND African expansion. Remember that it's not only migrants from the Middle East heading to Europe. Europeans must unite together as one to combat this madness that's destroying a great, historical, and beautiful continent.

[@mabeSc]

At least Eastern Europe is safe from this madness. Also, we need to accept that some cultures are simply not compatible with European ones and stop ignoring the obvious problems with it. The UK needs a massive anti-terrorism taskforce for things like Christmas and it is slowly starting to suppress and prosecute anyone critical of Islam, which is incredibly scary and worrying, especially as Muslims start occupying more and more positions in the government and get more influence. I have a really hard time imagining how the UK will be by 2050-60, let alone 2100. British white children are already a minority and the Islamic religion is being taught in public schools alongside many children being bullied for not being Muslim or girls for not wearing a hijab. Not only that but all of the progress that Europe made in terms of women's rights and LGBT are slowly but surely being eroded (not so much in terms of legislation but, rather, fear and violence).

[@username-ek1kd]

Women and LGBT rights being eroded is one positive thing that will come out of this

[@mabeSc]

@@username-ek1kd I'd prefer that women do not have to wear a hijab.

[@enismustafic3875]

Bosnia and Herzegovina has been majority Muslim since the 1600s and we are quite peaceful other than ethnic divisions.

[@mabeSc]

@@enismustafic3875 Bosnia and Albania are completely different worlds compared to what we are talking about here.

[@Damocles-zy3cg]

Just personal experience as a tourist travelling from New Zealand. When I first arrived in the UK I started scrolling through instagram reels and started to get UK content coming up. One of the first reels to come up was an Iranian teenager who would go around annoying police, but many of his reels were of him filming and basically harassing trans or gay people in public. Most of the comments were written in Arabic and were supporting what he was doing.

[@kapinio1]

"Import the 3th world, become the 3th world".

[@r-pu4md]

Just imagining where we are headed to makes me sick. It just feels so unfair and like Europeans haven’t had a say in this at all. I am beyond disgusted.

[@dankenk]

In The US, you have a non ethnic nationalism. Something that’s unites the people over a single idea. But in Europe because they’re afraid of ethnic ultranationalism, they gave up over nationalism completely! And they’re not united over any idea anymore.

[@A-A_P]

Some parts did, some didn't and some have kept their more chill from the start stance. Extremes are the priviledge of the great and powerful, in whatever which way.

[@arturoandrino7071]

I am concerned Europe will go to war over this

[@golagiswatchingyou2966]

You really think the USA will invade us again if we reject their globalist leaders?

[@sublimeksaleel]

The concern would be if they dont go to war over this.

[@incurableromantic4006]

I struggle to see it happening - the elites want Europeans to become a minority: and the populations would rather pretend it's not happening. The mathematics of demography mean time is very, *very* short to save the situation. Another 10 years of the same course and it will be too late.

[@bobbyjackson2705]

As an American Muslim I think this video was about as impartial as could be reasonably expected. I do want to make one correction though. The Quran nowhere states Muslims are not allowed to have non-Muslim friends or acquaintances, the verse cited 5:51 is a prohibition on taking them as allies or guardians. The Quran actually states to deal with nonviolent non-Muslims kindly. “Allah does not forbid you from dealing kindly and fairly with those who have neither fought nor driven you out of your homes. Surely Allah loves those who are fair.” Quran 60:8

[@Frodo1000000]

The Quran is one thing, but actual moderate and extreme Muslims teach each other and their kids not to have non-Muslim friends and lovers. See channel "Candid With Lubna" for examples, as well as other YT channels created by ex-Muslims who do interviews, interviewers and the interviewees both confirm the this notion. As I stated elsewhere under this video, for each non-violence Quran verse you can find two violence-inducing ones, and vice versa. And there are multiple interpretations of Quran, even though Muslims insist there's just one, reality shows otherwise. Relating to Quran verses as if they were an indication of the reality surrounding us is a void argument. Mind you I'm not saying this to offend you - it just is this way. Noone cares if Quran says such thing in one verse or another (especially that you can find contradicting verses - I'm not going to go into it, there's plenty of channels on YT doing that) when real-world Muslims are behaving differently.

[@bobbyjackson2705]

@ I mean respectfully I try not care too much about things outside of my control. There are obviously people around the world of every persuasion who teach their kids to be racist, discriminatory, or hateful and I don’t think anyone needs to watch an interview to know that’s manifest. I don’t really know what kind of hyperbole you’re using to describe Quran verses because of course there are way more non-violent verses in book 114 chapters long that covers a plethora of topics. And just like anything, people can absorb information in different ways and apply their own interpretations. In Islam we have something called tafsir though which use to develop our understanding. Now as far as contradictions go, no one seriously attributes to the Quran a contradictory nature, that is scholarly or academic, as opposed to whatever little KZbin videos you may have watched. I would honestly discourage watching other people before actually reading the book yourself, if nothing else to not look ignorant moving forward. I say this genuinely not to say it’s purposeful or that’s your character. I know I have ignorance about certain things and try to not engage people until I have good surface level understandings. But yea not taking non-Muslim friends is just an inaccurate translation so feel free to friend us up.

[@Megaspinosaurusrex]

@@Frodo1000000 The percentage of "violent" verses in the Quran is lower than other mainstream religious books. Most muslims don't have a problem with having friendly interactions. Mariage is another question, it doesn't mean hostility. If no one cares about the Quran's message, and the Quran is open to various interpretation. Then why do people who are against muslims use it as argument in the first place? Why bring up the Quran?

[@pixel_dank]

​@@Frodo1000000I asked chatgpt and it says there's about 70 out of 6,236 verse that talk about violence, conflict, and warfare, but with context and historical events, so do you have any evidence that for each non-violence Quran verse you can find two violence-including onse?

[@Frodo1000000]

@@pixel_dank Plenty of ex-muslim channels like Apostate Prophet already doing that. Sorry, I don't care enough to spend extra time on that. It's a figure of speech, too.

[@illiria2000]

As Albania, I have to state that the “Muslim” population is secular or non-practicing in nature like myself. The country is secular and the new senses showed that the Muslim population is decreasing in Albania. Aside from that, we all know how to handle the Muslim population in Europe…. Wink wink

[@y.u.so.]

How lame the same European leaders talk about protecting Islam in other countries where their population is over 30% while having such strict measures in Europe with less than 5% population.

[@saiz-m8v]

Everyone Only Concerned about muslims But they are not concerned about Indians Coming from India😂

[@Entertainment-]

They don't tend to force their theological legal system onto the guest country.

[@thesyclemonte6571]

Sorry what’s wrong with Indians?

[@Malos_]

Indians integrate well

[@gdadimi149]

Dude, wasen't the southport attacker a christian though?

[@Waterdiver3900]

yea but at least we can say something about christians if you say someinthing about muslims you need protection

[@mbathroom1]

the Swedish approach is the only one and should have been implemented decades ago

[@Jose04537]

More like the Norwegian one.

[@shayanhosseini8429]

Yeah i also agree, as a muslim i have not found very Religious radical Muslims yet, most here integrate and dont become radical, my Friends and coworkers often say to that all their muslim friends drinks, when i say i dont drink due to religious reasons😂😂

[@mbathroom1]

@@Jose04537 why

[@oliveryt7168]

The Swedish approach?? They f-ed themselves..

[@oliveryt7168]

​​@@shayanhosseini8429 you're not Swedish or are lying.. Swedistan is cooked...

[@caesarean38]

Born and raised practising conservative muslim in the Netherlands, finished my studies and bring added value to the state with pleasure by working fulltime. Feel free to ask anything

[@salimhamidi1483]

If you’re comfortable sharing, could you tell us a bit about how you interact with people outside your faith, especially those who are non-religious? How often do you find opportunities to explain your beliefs to others directly ?

[@tiagomd3811]

What are your thoughts on LGBT?

[@shafsteryellow]

@@tiagomd3811 as a movement? Or people with same sex attraction??

[@RK-cj4oc]

How much do you interact with actual Dutch people on average and how much with muslims on average?

[@moharr3582]

Do you believe islam should be the law of the Netherlands? and if it were up to you would you accept the lashing of an unmarried couple? who has sex outside of marriage?

[@GUTS-ff3]

Well well well… they are leaving their “lovable, delightful, religious” countries to Europe and surely it’s not because they want “better” life. They just don’t understand that if Europe got annexed it would be very “lovable” like their countries. Save Europe…

[@Salio_Mendes]

*All that goes around comes around.* What did Europe and the west expect when they invaded those countries and created chaos and left millions of people homeless? And then on top of that, took in those millions as refugees for "cheap labor" with all their trauma and PTSDs. what cloud go wrong here... I guess we are responsible as well, more so than them.

[@PASTRAMIKick]

at what point did Europe for the Europeans become so "bigoted", you could literally say the same thing about africa, MENA, and so on, and in those cases it's totally fine, something went really wrong along the way and now the western societies are actively trying to destroy themselves...

[@GatoSchwarzV09]

Interesting that fear is something that is a substantial factor when it comes to 'a religion of peace'

[@caesarean38]

We fear going against God and we find peace by following God. Same as you except you fear going against humans and find peace by doing their bidding

[@Jose04537]

Because it's founded, just look at what happens in the middle where they are a mayority, fear for your daughters and your LGBTQ chidren.

[@isekaitruckkun]

As a muslim I have to make things clear. A muslim according to the quran and sunnah. should not enforce Islam on other people. But rather intellectually convince them. A correction as well. the quran does not advice the killing of non muslims. this is stated in a single verse that was in context of war. Great presentation though. no bias, good stuff!

[@Frodo1000000]

The Quran has many contradictory verses, as do all major religion holy books. For every verse condemning violence and genocide, you can find three that condemn these, and vice versa. I wouldn't give too much credit to those verses, the radicals and firm believers (in case of Muslims - the moderates as well, unfortunately) will interpret those to the demise of modern human rights. As for intellectually convincing people towards Islam, I can't imagine that actually happening, which I think is why extreme Muslims are so antagonistic towards apostasy: Islam may be the "fastest growing religion", but it is because of birth rates, therefore new Muslims that are indoctrinated into faith. Islam has actually one of the highest rates of apostasy, and very likely even higher real rates, because of repercussions, excuse me - death penalty - for apostasy in Sharia-law countries. This suggests that Islam has actually most people going **away** from the faith for intellectual reasons, rather than converting to it.

[@sayuas4293]

"A muslim according to the quran and sunnah. should not enforce Islam on other people. But rather intellectually convince them. " Those are clearly just words, all throughout history it has been the complete opposite. There is even a strong tradition of murdering people who leave islam.

[@mattata-san]

and always with the lies. did your imam tell you to write this comment?

[@mrmuhammad11]

​​@@mattata-sanLet me clarify for you, In Islam no priest can write or edit scripture...

[@mattata-san]

@@mrmuhammad11 Read my comment again. Smartest Muslim

[@davidoh14]

Brilliantly put; shying from important topics in fear of repercussions should always be questioned. Realities aren't always pleasant to digest.

[@dankenk]

Ban all religious practice outdoors.

[@JanHQ]

This is not the USSR

[@alfrredd]

Ban all religious practices*

[@Victorvondoom9159]

​@@JanHQin regards to Islam we need to become worse then that

[@JanHQ]

@@Victorvondoom9159 "As a Muslim myself, why don't you just implement anti-immigration policies aimed at limiting the amount of immigrants rather than mumbling about it online!?" - JanHQ

[@evansnyamesah1755]

​@JanHQ the problem with some people ain't one religion but all religions . Faith and beliefs are dangerous if they go a dangerous path. With me it's the individual that must take accountability for their actions

[@arrore]

Albania is 45% of nominally Muslim declared population. 2.5% of Albanian Muslims are religious. Albania does not have Middle Eastern migration and locals have their own culture, identity and way of life completely un influenced by religions.

[@bruceyawen6160]

@@arrore just goes to show once more how important demographics/ethnic composition is

[@Abdo9t9]

I am a 25-year-old Muslim from Tunisia living in France. I lean towards conservatism, and as the video explains, I think my generation is becoming increasingly conservative. I am studying and working at the same time. You can ask me any question, and I will answer it with 100% honesty. I hardly get offended, so you can really ask anything!

[@spartoiss488]

Tu ne connais pas encore alibabal ?

[@valhall89]

Do you believe Muslim communities have the capacity to self regulate extreme viewpoints, or do they need help from the public sector. A question that has come up here in norway

[@Dtchmastrkilla7]

I see conservatism as trying to fit in with society, and my radicalism has been in opposition to the mainstream in my country. But for you, conservativism is a rebellion against the mainstream (French) society around you?

[@Abdo9t9]

@@valhall89it depends on what you would call extreme viewpoints. Muslim communities in the West should start by creating institutions and those institutions should have ties with the host countries' public institutions. If Western countries want to minimise extremism they should cooperate with representative bodies of Muslims. In reality though, the right-wing rise in Europe will only make matters worse in my opinion.

[@Abdo9t9]

@@Dtchmastrkilla7 As a conservative, I am just trying to strengthen my identity which is mainly based on religion. French society combatting that is not going to make me more easily assimilated, I think it will only drive other people to the opposite side. I think the French assimilation policy is causing more harm than good to society. I can live and coexist with people from different religions and cultures. it's just that I want to live the way I want, not the way the government or society wants me to be.

[@Zephiruxz]

GREAT vid. objective. although I love my Muslim brothers Europe can't lose its identity

[@ok-lq6tv]

Europe for Europeans! Islam out!

[@siegfried19888]

As a leftist this is the only thing I agree with conservatives on

[@costantinochianale4904]

racist

[@anime0965]

@@costantinochianale4904 It is racey but do you really want to be overrun by ultra-religious middle age fanatics? I'm from a third-world country and you guys shouldn't be that naive to think middle-east people will easily give up their religion. I suspect Europeans will gradually start discriminating against all brown people because of this.

[@costantinochianale4904]

@@anime0965 I'm from a third world country too man (Chile), so I know how europeans invented and perfected the act of discriminating against al brown people. Islam historically used to be the most inclusive and progressive civilization of its time, so I hate when it gets characterized as fundamentally barbaric and violent. Modern day muslims are violent and intolerant because they've been backed into a corner, bombed into the ground, colonized multiple times and then hated when they inevitably flee to richer countries. The main factor that gets ignored in the discussion of muslim immigration to the west is that it's entirely the west's fault. Do I believe that they deserve any violence? No, absolutely not. But if they want to integrate muslims into their society or for them to go back, how about they stop extracting resources from their countries and bombing them into oblivion. Gaza would be a great first example.

[@NoobGamer-ki9pz]

​Inclusive, progressive.. hmm... Can't say about that for sure but yeah, I agree on the next part with you​, Europeans are loud about the problem, but aren't same when it comes to it's root cause. Europeans need to accept the real cause and find the permanent solution that way. As they're now it won't lead to any good.@@costantinochianale4904

[@adamk4775]

Finally someone who isn't afraid to dive into this topic and actually discuss it in a non political way. Really well balanced and well presented video. You give all the data needed and arguments from both sides. The issue of Islam in Europe is huge and it is time to being able to have an open discussion about it without being labelled far right or racist for just mentioning it.

[@jasonhaven7170]

Then don't hate on Muslims

[@konstantinosdragasespalaio4178]

I am an ex-muslim . Feel free to ask me any question about islam in relation to European and global politics

[@kushdmg]

Who is the current caliph?

[@Handle0108]

@@kushdmg doesn't exist, last one was deposed in 1923

[@mrjojo166]

Who is imam of france?😂Just asking

[@konstantinosdragasespalaio4178]

@@mrjojo166 imam = priest or something like that. Every mosque has at least an imam who pray and make sermons

[@DisposableSupervillainHenchman]

What made you leave the religion and what were the consequences of that? Islam says the punishment for apostasy is death, so that’s awful and barbaric.

[@conall7030]

Deportations

[@PistachioGelato1]

Have you consulted a knowledgeable muslim? Have you read the Quran in whole? There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding in this video

[@ahmadruzaini4646]

leave it be..they already made their decision when uploading this video..

[@RafaelPereira-vz5qf]

Save Europe (no hate)

[@SK-hq6ux]

If European women placed more value on having at least two children, I believe that the respective countries might feel less need to rely on immigration. I am a second-generation Muslim living in England, born and raised here. I understand that some people in the comments may not care about my perspective because of their views on Islam. However, I do think that, over generations, children in Muslim families often grow up more connected to their faith. This might be due to the increased availability of Islamic resources in English, covering topics like theology and other aspects of the religion. Additionally, I would argue that Western values have become increasingly spiritually empty. Growing up in a society that was traditionally Christian is one thing, but the rise of atheism in the West has led many to hold onto their faith more tightly. Our parents came to a country that wasn’t openly promoting anti-family or anti-traditional values. Now, Western culture seems to be characterized by attitudes that are often anti-family, anti-religion, and, in some cases, even anti-health (for example, normalizing obesity). There’s also a growing push towards erasing gender distinctions through various ideologies. This makes people turn back to the purity that religion provides; elements like prayer, healthy living, and community become sources of strength and connection. People often misinterpret this aspect of Islam. Practices like prayer, compassion, brotherhood, and sisterhood are key reasons why many people grow closer to their faith. There’s also a misconception that Islam is anti-woman, yet studies show that 75% of converts to Islam are women. Many are drawn to it because of their dissatisfaction with the ideologies in society today, where feminism sometimes seems to focus on messages like ‘get naked and expect no one to stare.’ Islam offers a different path, which resonates with a lot of women.

[@danielrupert106]

''Our parents came to a country that wasn’t openly promoting anti-family or anti-traditional values. Now, Western culture seems to be characterized by attitudes that are often anti-family, anti-religion, and, in some cases, even anti-health (for example, normalizing obesity)'' One of the key drivers why many friends of mine return to Christianity. Religion is spiritual clarity and gives one a sense of belonging and purpose. The West nowadays opposes all of that, to increasingly accommodate a believe system only few subscribe too. Thanks for sharing your opinion

[@Kannot2023]

We must come back to our christian roots, and not let get radical islam get a foothold.

[@sccm100]

It was the abandonment of “Christian roots” that allowed Europe to prosper. We need a secular society free of religious nonsense

[@PhoneA255G]

Agreed ​@@sccm100

[@Megaspinosaurusrex]

@@sccm100 Stalin agrees with you

[@ginismoja2459]

Our roots are actually pagan, by the way. Becoming more Christian will result in similar hellholes as a lot of those Muslim countries. Europe is too smart to be religious, unfortunately too kind a tolerant towards people who don't reciprocate.

[@vortigan9068]

@@sccm100 lmao europe was majority christian up until ww2 what are you talking about

[@landimanaj5422]

This is not fair why dont they ask also christians and jews is their faith more important or they state they live in?

[@bobtop4689]

They are asking them the equivalent of asking Christians if the ten commandments should be the state law

[@bruceyawen6160]

Islam in other european countries like albania or bulgaria is completely fine. Why? Because its not part of the ethnic identity of the people living there. Currently europe imports islam together with the ethnic group who formed it and to which it is faith, state and ethnic identity in one. To these people islam is what they are and the concerns of the ummah stand far above of those of their host nation. After seeing what went on on the streets of europe after october 8th, everyone should know where this journey is going...

[@MrWood-qd6kr]

Abandoned Christianity and this is the consequence.

[@everydaylife5641]

I have one slight correction: it’s more fitting to describe the „Muslim Countries“ as Muslim majority countries as there governments tend to be secular monarchies or dictatorships. 2. beeing „more relaxed“ than dictatorships and monarchies is not a bar to set for ourselves in Europe