Intro to Land Navigation TOOLS

[@butcherofthewest5825]

John, my wife and I are in the hospital. She is in labor with our first baby! We love your channel and I couldn’t help but check out todays video while I wait. Thanks! Update: 48 hours in labor, momma is feeling it. Please send good vibes and prayers our way. God bless! Update: baby girl Nevaeh, born 4:45am June 13th via c-section. Thank you everyone for the support and prayers!

[@lemminglobber1854]

Congratulations! I hope your first born is healthy and happy.

[@butcherofthewest5825]

lemminglobber thank you! Watching some yt while momma to be sleeps

[@aaronmccullough4078]

I seen you in drae's video also congrats

[@GXOUT]

Good luck!

[@butcherofthewest5825]

Aaron McCullough hahaha! Awesome! Thanks again!

[@offroadtek00]

When will y'all put a "Yay for that" patch in the store?

[@MatthewSmith-du5dy]

* screams chant* yay for that! Yay for that!

[@eyesky6809]

I’ll buy 2!

[@chiefro7]

This MUST happen

[@thewatcher611]

Yay for that! Yay for that! Yay for that! Yay for that! Yay for that! Yay for that! Yay for that! Yay for that! Yay for that! Yay for that! Yay for that! Yay for that! Yay for that! Yay for that! Yay for that! Yay for that!

[@ethancopeland5267]

Or a "Because I like to party" patch

[@goosemanjr-9903]

I'm glad John posted a video like this. When I was younger I got lost in a National Forest and had it not been for being tracked down by a Forest Ranger it could have turned into a series survival situation. I told my self I'll never be caught in a situation like that again without knowing how to navigate and survive. Now I'm a big survival nerd and I'm looking into Game and Parks for a career. To make a long story extremely long, awesome video John.

[@diomedes39]

Did you end up in games and parks?

[@HPMK100]

I'd definitely like a second video with some land nav instructions, always fun to learn from you

[@bartdrummond4714]

As we teach in the Virginia search and rescue program, map and compass are your primary source of navigation, GPS is secondary. And, as GPS is always subject to failure, a map with a hole in it is still a map. A GPS with a hole in it is a paperweight to hold down your map. Good video, John.

[@CoartneyGrace]

That’s interesting Virginia has such a diversity of environments I bet it makes for interesting search and rescue

[@johnospina6622]

Thank you so much for what you do. Especially appreciate that you don’t curse, so my wife and children can watch along without fearing F-bombs coming out of your mouth. God bless you and your family my brother.

[@benjamminc13]

10 years military nav experience. I just like to watch your videos to hear your sweet sweet voice, John... And the occasional dad joke. Poet on!

[@michaelfinn1803]

John will be eating dinner tonight, or laying in bed and still wondering, Where the hell is my protractor ... hahaha

[@nobody-zl7gg]

Or his wife's thinking his thinking of other women, his thinking 🤔 where the truck is the protractor?

[@craigp187]

Funny, I recently started looking into land navigation again, refreshing something that I learned over 40 years ago in the Scouts. Haven’t really used it much over the years, but thought it a good idea to become reacquainted with the skill... Thanks for the video!

[@ianmcneal5526]

Got a good lauth. Lieutenants and land navigation. As a retired. Senior NCO your comment about 2nd LTs still being lost brought back a flood of funny "war" stories.

[@christopherharpster9330]

I'm super excited for this series! I'm a hunter and this year I'm doing my first big country elk hunt, so I've been trying to learn all I can!

[@614XJ]

Are you traveling anywhere in particular? I’d love to do my first big hunt whether it be some deer or elk. I’m in Ohio we have great deer here.

[@christopherharpster9330]

@@614XJ I'm going to Billings, Montana. My uncle lives there and we found a guide not too far from him

[@matthewcrawford4216]

Don’t worry about buying stuff. Pen and paper. Start making a list as you go out you will find what you really need. Tips: 1)good boots/shoes that are well worn in. Don’t go hunting in brand new boots! 2) Have a plan for cooling the meat down as soon as possible and how to get it back to camp/town. 3. Don’t take as much stuff as you think you need. Light is good when you are on your feet all day. 4. Get in shape. Walk, run, climb before you go. Elk love to hang out in rugged terrain and it will kick your butt. Good luck.

[@614XJ]

Christopher Harpster Wow that sounds amazing. Good luck and safe travels with the hunt!

[@christopherharpster9330]

@@matthewcrawford4216 thanks man! Yeah I've gotten most of that covered, but I had just thought learning to read and comprehend mapping would be a useful skill for hunting, basically so I'm not looking at the guide or guides like they're speaking in tongues

[@DedicatedSpartan]

I recently started learning to use land navigation tools.

[@DocC993]

Last time i did it the old fashioned way was in boy scouts!!

[@wscouter3458]

@Christopher C. Same here. I’m a Life Scout right now and am about to start my Eagle project soon. Over the years (11 including Cub Scout) I got pretty good with a map and compass. I was supposed to go to Philmont this summer but our trip was canceled. I would have been our starting navigator. 😢

[@TheBrandicus]

How recent? Like when you started watching this video?

[@AcridSoul]

Recently as in 9 hours ago? 😉

[@DedicatedSpartan]

@@TheBrandicus nope, a few months ago.

[@cdragen]

Absolutely essential skill. Glad you're covering this, it's becoming a lost art in the age of GPS and digital navigation. The ability to read a map and find your way can save lives, I've seen it first hand.

[@calebdoner]

Land nav is so underrated in the days of ubiquitous cell phones. Thanks for this video and please continue with part 2!

[@randalls380]

"As a 2nd Lt., it doesn't matter how many......you have, you're still going to get lost..." Loved this quote. You described me perfectly way back when - that was me to a T. Great video, John...thanks!

[@sam8976]

It always amazes me how many people don't know whether the next town is north, south east or west of there own home. Just LOOKING at a map once in a while is helpful.

[@HipsterKhan]

John is a gift from a higher being. I was just telling my buddy the other day about how I can’t figure out anything about land nav!

[@professorlarosa9323]

Thank you for sharing! I started doing search and rescue before covid-19 hit and shut every thing down. Training still hasn’t opened back up yet, so I’ve been reading a lot of land nav and tracking material. This video covered the first 3 chapters of one of my books lol.

[@brianmayden2457]

Nice tune up John. 28 years ago when I wrapped it up as a 11C30, those tools would have been nice. Doubt they’d have been allowed on the EIB course though... Hope you continue this series. It’s amazing how much you forget when the skills aren’t used regularly.

[@6174ever]

Hi John, as an old 11B20, it's nice to hear someone speak about nav. I need to get a new protractor, thanks for the reminder. Be safe.

[@elliottdmann]

As a land navigation total beginner, this is helpful. I appreciate your explanation of the different kinds and qualities of compasses, and how to use one for finding an azimuth, etc.

[@fredschwab23]

Another great video that helps net out what a person needs. Favorite video quote " welcome to my head, it is like a bag of stray cats sometimes" epic!

[@NorthbyNorthwestAdventures]

I love my Garmin Felix 6. Bought it to thru hike the Appalachian trail.i also have the 64st also. I am watching this video to see if I want to use it for training for my top volunteers for finding 2 missing hikers in Washington and Also would love to see the series. Triangulation with a brunton or similar flip style compass is very easy to do after you get the hang of it without the added weight of the range finder. I was down in Georgia twice this year and to be honest triangulation (I didn't actually attempt it) seems like an impossibility in alot of the terrain because of the massive amount of trees. Here out west its got to be way easier. Love the show.

[@DSjockey]

The memories are rolling in now.........Thanks for jogging my brain and putting this course on

[@larrywallace3637]

"Inside my head is like a bag of stray cats". Love it. Thanks. Night land nav is interesting. Knowing constellations, where they are, or are not depending on the season, in the sky, and where you are on the planet can be helpful if you do a lot of this stuff.

[@rickalent696]

John, I love land nav and still have my pace count beads. Warrior Poet is one of the channels i always goto. you can change any topographical maps that read Lat/Long can be turned into a MGRS map. Just look for the blue hash marks on the edges of the map and connect the marks. I can't believe a retired Navy guy had to teach you that

[@michaelmeadows5142]

When active, I used to assist teaching land nav to fellow grunts, civilians, municipalities, etc. It was always the 2nd LT we had to SAR. I loved teaching the course and still have the maps (and protractor! ) I used back then... I'm old school, but wanting to learn the ways of the GPS nav. Guess I'll be investing in garmin~ and John, I'll even send you my back up protractor 🤣

[@waykno8478]

John is good. No doubt about it. But, I can tell time, temp, altitude, weather, direction, moon phase, and much more... just by looking at the sun, moon, stars, and such. No, not at the same time. Now if it's stormy, I gotta wait till it clears up but, there ya go. John, keep'em coming. Love'em all.

[@Imafed42069]

Just like shooting land navigation is a perishable skill that takes practice. I havent done a land nav course in 4 years since I ets'd and it's time to brush up. Good video!

[@quickchicken506]

John you should be a salesman.Knowledge is better than all that gear.In land-nav we learned how to use all that stuff and we learned to navigate without any of it.Anyway a good vid.

[@bricefsvens5031]

I just became a member of WPSN. I can't think of many better groups to give money to. You guys are awesome. Keep it up.

[@chadcalvaresi152]

John, Great job! Having been a lost LT, you did an awesome RI down and dirty video! Love it! Keep it up! God Speed!

[@WarriorPoetSociety]

Thanks!!! So glad a group of NCOs finally found you and brought you back to us!! 👬🥳

[@chadcalvaresi152]

After 29 years of service, I can look back, thank the Lord that I had amazing NCOs to serve with! Many fellow INF O’s did not, and they suffered dearly for that! Love y’all’s work! “Keep Up the Fire”

[@texaswildcat2000]

I LOVE land nav......soooooo easy..... stars, sunrise/set directions, compass, the awesome maps that read like a book, easy for me, landmarks, terrain features.... more...... land nav is easy, fun, awesome........

[@Not_Mussolini_]

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and sell my truck so I can spend a couple weeks with you John. Wanting to do Pistol 1 & 2 & 3, Rifle 1 & 2, 1 man clearing, Long Distance Patrol, Map Class... just everything. Really going to need that map class since I'm selling my truck.

[@beardedbowhunter6139]

Good luck even getting registered

[@hidog420]

The dude is just a great teacher PERIOD! Wish I was one of those stray cats in his head so I could steal some of that knowledge.

[@SamboDestroyer]

Good job!!

[@col.cottonhill6655]

I'm a land surveyor and so was my dad. Good topic to cover.

[@JustinBieber4evah]

Tough job for a man without shins Cotton.

[@OGsDangerShow]

Anyone else notice John and his rifle are headed to the Disney Princess area in Orlando? 🤣👍 OG, the Taofledermaus Channel

[@davidgillis3807]

A bag of stray cats 😂! I heard about this video on T. Rex arms, btw, fantastic! Thanks WPS! Give us more please. Especially on the communication and moving part. Like how to get groups of people into certain positions. Excellent.

[@JasonVladimir]

A little refresher course since my kindergarten experience in the Army. Thanks for sharing!

[@familycalendar4251]

Awesome! Land Nav.... My son and I would love to see it on the channel!

[@joeyb7408]

This is very useful. I havent done land nav in 3 years and really wish i wasnt so tired during training. Because of that, my land nav skills are DECENT at best. Id love a refresher because i know i can be great at it

[@ricardoalbertoaguiar]

Me and my son follow your channel John, he is in the army; thanks for all

[@eltoast]

Me: google knows too much about me and my whereabouts John: I use google maps, it’s the best and I love it Me: I use google maps, it’s the best and I love it

[@tylerdurden4080]

Totally underrated comment

[@BILLYBOBJohnson-kj2zd]

*google Earth

[@wolverinebear5357]

Dammit big brother is a dick sometimes

[@adamschneider868]

lol

[@orionpax8065]

Your watch is the Garmin instinct tactical. I’ve been researching watches for the last 4 weeks. Your watch is actually the same one I settled on. Garmin makes a more expensive model with color maps and such but it’s north of $700.00 bucks. The instinct tactical is around $200.00. Great watch. Can’t wait till mine gets here. Love the content WPS. Plan on signing up for WPSN this weekend. ❤️

[@jasonprairie9968]

Hey John, good video only one small oversight, guys do not forget a notebook and pencil. Rite in the rain or any other it don't matter just make sure you have one. Map markers will work in a pinch but Murphy will jump up and bite ya at the worst time. Stay safe, hooah!!

[@shelbyburgey884]

Thanks John! Just got back into land Nav this spring. Looking forward to your vids on it. I was a 19D Cav Scout before the GPS, so I have a little knowledge. The links are a welcome source. Thanks again!

[@yotersmitt]

We print our maps onto waterproof paper, no lamination needed. However, love the idea of being able to erase after marking up map. Going to have to see how well erasing works on wp paper. Love my Suunto X6 watch, alarm never worked, but has done me well for over 15 years.

[@yotersmitt]

Anywhere they sell lots of National Geographic folded maps...REI, Sportsman's Warehouse, GPS Store, to name a few...

[@kenm76]

Yes, bring it! As a Boy Scout leader, I teach land navigation (we call it "Orienteering") as an important Scout skill. I am always looking to improve my own abilities, so that I can pass that knowledge on to my Scouts. As with everything I teach them, I don't want them to be good at it, I want them to be exceptional! So, again, with an enthusiastic thumbs up I say, "Bring it on, sir!"

[@chrisboyd1408]

Yah for that! I haven't done much of the land navigation stuff since I retired from the military but I'm going to be doing more this year as I'm going to be looking for some new hunting areas thanks for the video

[@richbarcia1130]

Instruction on land navigation has me interested. Thanks, Man.

[@mikekern3436]

I loved the Google Earth zoom in to the Disney Princess Store!

[@jasoncarr3603]

Thank you. And YES on the Land Nav instruction. Please and thank you again.

[@OlafKilthau]

I've used my Garmin instinct for about a year and I love it! There's a great book by Bjorn Kjellstrom, Be Expert with Map and Compass, The complete orienteering handbook.

[@l.d.leiter8038]

Brought me back a few years ago to some Boy Scout trips, we were bushwacking and our adult leaders thought we were off course, so we changed course, turned out we had been doing it right and the adults were mistaken, good memories... Great video and information, still learning even though I've been taught a lot already, using a range finder for triangulation would be sweet

[@abntemplar82]

of all the military skills i learned in my 20 plus years in land nav was by far, for me, the most difficult to master. in fact it took me 4 recycles to get through sfqc. wait, John there are good 2lts? really when did that happen? now I still practice on a monthly basis at least once a weekend. yes an excuse to go out camping...lol don't tell my better half. I still use my Silva, am on my 3rd one in 30 years. great vid John. always good to review basics as I have just done again. thanks bro.

[@joeylandry4933]

Great video, at 3:30 I did briefly think you were a 2Lt spinning that map around 😉

[@markinaction1]

great video John. I remember all of the land navigation rules. I hope that you are planning on teaching orienteering as well. Flat landers don"t have a lot of terrain features other than swamps.

[@blumountian]

"It's a bag of stray cats sometimes" I would like to personally thank you for your service of giving me the purfect analogy for my catastrophic thought process.

[@SixOFord]

Looking forward to the next land nav installment.

[@J.Young808]

I had to double check after Evan’s intro. The music made me think I was watching Overland Bound

[@LeviHoward175]

wearing a watch and just paying attention can do a lot if you can’t get ahold of the nicer stuff. for example, if it’s 6:00 PM you can look at the sun and tell roughly which way is west, it’s not perfect but it’s saved me a few times.

[@cassiusandronicus4023]

I’ve also used some golf Gps range finders for long range shooting as well. Can be very handy.

[@leofrizbonnie]

Hey john, thanks for all your awesome content, I’ve been soaking it up for a long time now! One thing to note on this subject is the vulnerability of GNSS, which relies on low power signals from high in the atmosphere as well as land based control stations. This vulnerability emphasizes the importance of knowing how to use a map, compass, and pedometery. There are also some cool commercially available products for gps denied nav.. I have some experience with TRX Systems - they make a good product that utilizes your phone as a user interface (links up with ATAK)

[@linuxman0]

Nice vid. If you haven't already, you ought to do a video about using all of this gear out in the field.

[@DesmoProfundis]

Retired 13F land nav guru. I like watching yer stuff and am interested to hear your Ranger take on something I'm pretty familiar with. That said, no Ranger beads or protractor? John, yer killing me! Lol! Good vid and I do love that Garmin 64ST, you can get water way charts on it too. I use it on the boat all the time.

[@Mrgunsngear]

EXCELLENT topic.... but... nowadays you're using LAT/LONG? You've gone soft old man 😎

[@bigboi9877]

Damn why you gotta do my man john like that? Cmon bro lol😂

[@midnightcomm]

Depends on the application. For flying, usually use Degrees, Minutes.Decimal Minutes.

[@FightForFreedom1776]

@@daytondeclan3567 should I give al you guys cc informations too? What a coincidence, you all joined 1 month ago, you all watched instafuck while at home, and you all promote it together with simultaneous comments. Nothing suspicious here, just a couple of KZbin scammers from India lmao

[@kory6865]

Gosh im about to build my first AR! I cant wait im so excited.

[@TheHawkeye50317]

This was great, for an intor to the tools. Now, how about an intro to actually using these tools so we all, are not as lost as a Second Lieutenant? Lol.

[@Joshuajbai]

I have been using nothing but a campus and map since the age of thirteen. I had no idea they have GPS watches, I have been thinking about getting a range finder for hunting. I will also share this as a tool to start teaching my family these skills thanks!

[@sthiel126]

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!! Edit: Now that I've actually watched it... This is a great Land Nav resource(gear) video for various practical styles of LandNav.

[@SerbianTexan]

So awesome! Thank you! I basically know only left from right and more videos on land nav would be super helpful.

[@dustinropp]

I am glad to see y'all are still posting on KZbin

[@wolfpack1384]

I watched this cause I love land nav. I was a pathfinder in the army years ago and have a tritium lensatic and a bunch of maps. Sometimes I go out just to play with them love your vids

[@MikeH0311]

I started learning using the UTM it’s literally the same process of MGRS so it works well for me from coming from the military

[@paullinkins8121]

That compass with tritium -- sure was a great feeling having a radioactive emitting substance right up against my body all the time (and very close to my package no less)! We never seemed to have enough supply of the MGRS protractors -- I think I had to use the same on for nearly 10 years. Mech units sure ate up those Staedtler markers for map overlays; it was like the end of the world if we didn't have them.

[@tylerdurden4080]

Don't think there was enough tritium there to hurt you

[@paullinkins8121]

@@tylerdurden4080 It isn't so much the quantity it is more of a psychological factor. Tritium is a low-energy beta ray emitter and it only takes a few mm of metal to absorb it.

[@davidhays4695]

I use the G-Shock Range master. It works very nicely.

[@patriciau6277]

It’s good to know types of rocks and how they form. There was an area we owned land and it had lots of rocks of every size. In fact very few flat meadow like spots. In that kind of terrain deep crevices can be hard to see. There was one that ran the edge of the road just under the edge of the road itself. You could stand inside it and no one could tell you were there.

[@JDBolduc]

1st time I have seen a range finder used in land nav. Thx

[@mjenkins2251]

Just seeing this. Good refresh. But, all I could think after you picked up the laminator was what was preached in Marine Corps TBS - “Laminate it. Take it to the field. It’ll save your life some day!” Even my wife uses the phrase still today - 25 yrs later.

[@Sk0lzky]

Cheap clickers counters are a great alternative to a pace cord (even better to combine them), they're foolproof, really tiny, and can be tied to your watch strap. Bes ones sum up how many times it reset (e.g. 10 resets on a 0-999 gives you 10km, when both counters reset you mark it on the cord and keep moving)

[@kjvacp]

😂 John! I'm crying bro. 7:40 the 2nd lieutenants. That's hilarious

[@PPSChadwick]

Please do more of these nav videos. Wish people taught this stuff locally in my city. Almost have to be former military to learn this stuff.

[@DindoNuffin-e2x]

You can spray clear finishes from china mart on the maps. works well. Also clear drawer liner works fine and can be drawn on.

[@joshlittle3613]

Would definitely love to here some more on land nav. I ship Feb 8th to basic and that’s the one thing that makes me nervous. You can yell at me and have me run and ruck all day in the rain, but put a map in front of me a might cry… lol

[@XeroFailGames]

I have that same watch john has, garmin instinct. Quite good for navigating as well

[@PurpleMusicProductions]

This was very helpful. For some reason I want to get into hiking and the outdoors but know absolutely nothing about it.

[@WhoWouldWantThisName]

Tip: If you buy one of the old GI protractors, make sure you get a good one. What that means is the corner of that triangle has to be cut so it's lined up right with the hash marks. Many of them are just stamped out with poor precision and can be way off.

[@seanpayton1184]

Can't wait for the land nav training video!

[@jonathanryding1664]

Awesome and perfect timing for summer camping! 🏕

[@mrpeabodythethird]

Thank you! I'd love another video about land nav.

[@1RiderPale]

Love land nav. I still have my lensatic compass I bought before heading to the sandbox before Desert Shield/Storm.

[@albinorhino8732]

I lost mine along with almost everything else. Learning to navigate by stars was cool and helped a few times!

[@albinorhino8732]

Gave my son my CIB, Cav coin, and Ranger beads though.

[@BigD9176]

Its definitely a use or lose skill - Luckily my army buddies and I teach scouts these skills. Its always nice to keep up on basic land nav skills. Keep it up John! Hit that like button for all those lost LTs haha.

[@strange_entertainmentstang1190]

I also use the garmin instict tactical (Johns watch) and absolutely love it, couldn't ask for a better watch for hiking/camping/hunting or all at once

[@Welder6131]

Always loved land nav ecspecially night nav! 100% agree that this is a must have skill for success in the field. Still rock my protractor and pace beads from the Corp! Hope you do more of these videos!

[@AaronThiessen-jp7vg]

Thanks John! Appreciate you help!

[@bombsaway6340]

Great video! Land navigation is much harder than it looks. Good training is essential.

[@finalbyrnn1752]

I never get lost. I always know where I am. I'm here! I might not know how I got here. Or how I'm getting out of here but I always know where I am. I'm always here!!!

[@gruntgearreview6490]

Picked up an Instint a couple weeks back, can't wait to get my hands on it

[@BoogalooBoy]

I like practicin' muckin' around in the woods, its fun to see where you can hide back there.

[@justinwilliams5064]

I go to Walmart and grab a mr clean magic eraser, and some fine point sharpies. Its a bit cheaper so when you lose them in the woods its not as aggravating. I also use a blue headlamp with highlighters for boundaries and major features so when i stop and do a check at night the important things pop out. 🤘 Go get lost you will learn a lot!